Olympic style judo is primarily throws, about 90 percent, however "Kodokan judo" is more 50/50 between throws and grappling and includes "atemi waza"{strikes} as well.
@UrineArtist LOL! People constantly comment on how Judo and Jujitsu people can't fight without a gi, then when you see a demonstration in actual street clothes (of the time), people are still lame enough to criticize. Can't win.
Andi! Big thanks are due to you. I have been studying almost 45 years. At some point experiencing greater skill than my own began to cause me joyous laughter. I laughed for 3:25. The other three seconds I was catching my breath. Please upload more of these very early Hop Sing video's. Please. It is just awesome. And funny. Peace.
Thanks ZenWolfDances i really had no idea what era it came from just found it rather interesting, i do apologise for my poor spelling!!! Never even thought of checking out the catalouge info!
I don't know if you know, but alot or even all the things seen in judo...was taken from Jujutsu. Kano just wanted a safer way to spar and compete...and what I'm also heairng is that Kano took aspects form other jujutsu schools and combined it...thus making judo with safer ways to spar and compete. Taking out finger locks eventually.
It's a pleasure to see this young lady keep her composure and femininity. She doesn't feel the need to wear some commando or martial-arts outfit. She's much better in her elegant black dress
They use choke holds in judo and if they don't let go they could choke someone to death, they can also break arms, legs, wrists, etc. so need to be careful.
well as you may be aware Judo was developed from jujitsu....jujitsu is used as a means of self defense hence the application of tome nage etc.....Jujutsu in its traditional forms consists of striking also...for lack of a better term it is the complete martial art...
It's not rare -it's from the Pathe archives (the clue's in the spoiler watermark) and it's not from the early 1900s -it was shot at the Pathe studios in 1937.
In style, this seems pretty similar to modern Small Circle jujitsu (self defense orientation, standing takedowns, there's even a kind of wrist twist). Check my video for some examples of Small Circle moves.
I would say more like 2/3rds of the techniques in traditional Jujutsu are illegal in Judo and not even practiced in Judo dojos. People seems to forget that Judo was devised by Jigaro Kano who removed most the extremely dangerous techniques. Judo, despite being less dangerous than Jujutsu, can still be lethal if the techniques are applied in that manner but that is not the point of the art which is why it was highly adaptable to athletics and eventually became a sport.
Reminds me of a classic harry enfield comedy sketch :) ...if i remember correctly the date of the first JuJitsu book published in the UK was in 1893 (mainly used by the police, i think).
And alot...not all of the moves in judo can be found in some of the schools of jujutsu. It seems they took out the striking aspect to practice with partners but left it in their kata, and took out the stuff that can be harmful when sparring and during competition.
This is maybe from the 50's. Amusing to see both men claiming to not understand a thing, but yet they have nice ukemi ;) to daseidokid, it's not because the died, but to make it possible for competition.
Iuno, fully about that. I thought jujutsu was something studied by the japanese that required very little strength. Because the samurai's wanted to kill or hurt their opponent quickly and with less exertion (might be spelled wrong). Maybe that's why some of the statues you see of samurai's are kinda fat...but then again I could be wrong...very wrong lol.
@jujutsufan Judo has Atemi waza, is not used for sportive ways and only certain students are selected to learn it, but is part of the The Way. So I don't know what you are talking about. If you like martial arts so much you should inform yourself before arising misinformation about them.
It's funny but you never hear about women getting mugged and so on back in the 1920s, 30s, or 40s...But they must have felt the need to make a film about self defence. My old grand father who lived in Hanworth, West London kept a club under his bed back in the 1930s. So they must have had concerns about intruders and being burgled back then too.
We're told that Judo beat Ju Ju Jitsu in 12 out of 15 matches. We need to remember that Ju Jitsu is not a sport- so the set up of the matches would obviously have favoured Judo. Half the techniques in Ju Jitsu are illegal in Judo. I found Ju-Jitsu much more practical as a means of self defense.
That's it? Care to qualify that statement? Maybe produce a counter-argument? L PS For the record, Judo comes from Jiujitsu--the striking and more violent aspects were removed by Kano to allow it to become a sport. Ah, wikipedia and google are wonderful things. What a wonderful internet it would be if people only took 2 minutes before posting and did a little research. You're Welcome.
@kf4ydh The techniques showed are Ju Jitsu technique... Judo was kano ryu ju jitsu... judo wasn,t focused on self protection... This is pure old ju jitsu..., sure, if you know how to see it!
That was funny how he says "Now what would you do if I grab you around the throat like this." and then she locks him up and throws him and says "Id do that." and then he CASUALLY SAYS "Hm that's very interesting." like a typical brit.
This is not Edith Margaret Garrud. The film appears to be from 1937 (www.hellotasty.com/it/8F8rtzXIRSk/Watch_Free_Video_Recipe_Bob_Gregory_Aka_Woman_Judo_Self_Defence_(1937).html), so it isn't Edith Garrud - she was born in 1872, so would have been 65 years old when this was filmed. Edith was awesome though!
The so-called Jujitsu techniques shown here from the 1920's - 1930's are actually used in Street Fights and Brawling in the U.K and Europe. So in any case , i could rather call this as Street Wrestling or Grappling. In the 1897 - the police started using Jujitsu when Japan was forced for open trade. So , some of the more well educated Japanese Masters have stayed overseas and started teaching Jujitsu to the Constables.
never compare judo and jujitsu? Maybe you need to research your info a little bit but they are the same shit. the only differance is the rules dude and jujitsu focuses on Newaza and Judo focuses on Randori, but they both have the same tools and the ability to be equal in any stage of fighting depending on what they want to focus on, Judos rules are a little restricting to jujitsu, bet to say that judo is far inferior is silly.
As you say- Judo was designed as sport, with rules allowing everyone to compete - regardless of where they came from. Ju Jitsu evolved from the need to defend oneself - often against stronger or armed opponents. As such centres more on the Dirty B*stard style of fighting. This video always makes me laugh. ;)
lol man I know it makes me so mad. Our school trains has gi and no gi days. All the people that talk trash, I wish they would approach a black belt and challenge them.
Olympic style judo is primarily throws, about 90 percent, however "Kodokan judo" is more 50/50 between throws and grappling and includes "atemi waza"{strikes} as well.
As someone who has been choked out with his own gi, I wouldn't want to wear one in a real fight.
@UrineArtist LOL! People constantly comment on how Judo and Jujitsu people can't fight without a gi, then when you see a demonstration in actual street clothes (of the time), people are still lame enough to criticize.
Can't win.
"Enjoy your trip?" LMAO~!! I thoroughly enjoyed that video.
Andi! Big thanks are due to you. I have been studying almost 45 years. At some point experiencing greater skill than my own began to cause me joyous laughter. I laughed for 3:25. The other three seconds I was catching my breath. Please upload more of these very early Hop Sing video's. Please.
It is just awesome. And funny.
Peace.
Thanks ZenWolfDances i really had no idea what era it came from just found it rather interesting, i do apologise for my poor spelling!!!
Never even thought of checking out the catalouge info!
This was great. I wish there were places that still talked like that. :-D
I don't know if you know, but alot or even all the things seen in judo...was taken from Jujutsu. Kano just wanted a safer way to spar and compete...and what I'm also heairng is that Kano took aspects form other jujutsu schools and combined it...thus making judo with safer ways to spar and compete. Taking out finger locks eventually.
Wish I could buy those shoes, so elegant and comfortable.
Yes- How to duff up Rugger Buggers has long been a favourite topic of mine. Great to see simple old school stuff in practice...
"Oh I just defended myself." lol
Judo and aikido came after jujitsu. They are in fact largely derivative
It's a pleasure to see this young lady keep her composure and femininity. She doesn't feel the need to wear some commando or martial-arts outfit. She's much better in her elegant black dress
They use choke holds in judo and if they don't let go they could choke someone to death, they can also break arms, legs, wrists, etc. so need to be careful.
well as you may be aware Judo was developed from jujitsu....jujitsu is used as a means of self defense hence the application of tome nage etc.....Jujutsu in its traditional forms consists of striking also...for lack of a better term it is the complete martial art...
Wow as i have just read that 19hours later!! go figure lol
Nice to see most of the techniques here are still being taught.
Judo is primarily throws.. jujitsu is more wrestling and jointlocks. I study jujitsu and most of the moves in this film are very familiar.
It's not rare -it's from the Pathe archives (the clue's in the spoiler watermark) and it's not from the early 1900s -it was shot at the Pathe studios in 1937.
No - Edith would have been about 60 years old when this was shot.
The lady looks very confident
it actually says 1900's 1920's - 1930's and film was around then!!! try reading it next time!!
In style, this seems pretty similar to modern Small Circle jujitsu (self defense orientation, standing takedowns, there's even a kind of wrist twist). Check my video for some examples of Small Circle moves.
I would say more like 2/3rds of the techniques in traditional Jujutsu are illegal in Judo and not even practiced in Judo dojos. People seems to forget that Judo was devised by Jigaro Kano who removed most the extremely dangerous techniques. Judo, despite being less dangerous than Jujutsu, can still be lethal if the techniques are applied in that manner but that is not the point of the art which is why it was highly adaptable to athletics and eventually became a sport.
1930's or 40's (no sound before 1929)
Brilliant!
"now what's going on here?"
"well this man tried to snatch my bag"
Reminds me of a classic harry enfield comedy sketch :) ...if i remember correctly the date of the first JuJitsu book published in the UK was in 1893 (mainly used by the police, i think).
And alot...not all of the moves in judo can be found in some of the schools of jujutsu. It seems they took out the striking aspect to practice with partners but left it in their kata, and took out the stuff that can be harmful when sparring and during competition.
This is maybe from the 50's.
Amusing to see both men claiming to not understand a thing, but yet they have nice ukemi ;)
to daseidokid, it's not because the died, but to make it possible for competition.
Roaring 20's indeed...did you hear the thud that guy makes when she drops him? Props to you *bows* and thanks for posting :)
Well i don't know i dont practice either art but it was given to me by a Jujitsu Coach so he would know more than i do!!
that last bit where the prone man moves standing man's foot was too funny!
i did, i didn't know television was actully that old.
Mr Cholmondeley Warner does martial arts too.
Iuno, fully about that. I thought jujutsu was something studied by the japanese that required very little strength. Because the samurai's wanted to kill or hurt their opponent quickly and with less exertion (might be spelled wrong). Maybe that's why some of the statues you see of samurai's are kinda fat...but then again I could be wrong...very wrong lol.
Sara meyer
1st female judo European black belt demonstrates Kano jujitsu
@jujutsufan Judo has Atemi waza, is not used for sportive ways and only certain students are selected to learn it, but is part of the The Way. So I don't know what you are talking about. If you like martial arts so much you should inform yourself before arising misinformation about them.
It is the 30's because of the hairstyle and it is about five or four years before WWII.
No it isn't.
Haha... wonderful. The best part is, I recognize a lot of these from the Gracie Jiu-jitsu street self-defense videos.
the description says ''old footage from the 1900s-1930'' i don't think television was even avalible then.
But still nice video
Cinema.
close, judo is the sport form of jujitsu
It's funny but you never hear about women getting mugged and so on back in the 1920s, 30s, or 40s...But they must have felt the need to make a film about self defence. My old grand father who lived in Hanworth, West London kept a club under his bed back in the 1930s. So they must have had concerns about intruders and being burgled back then too.
coll shit, man. can u tell us when exactly this was filmed?
lol
yumenoakisame A: some of her throws are illegal in judo
B: Its all the same Judo/ Jujitsu... gentle art, gentle way, no differance
This is cool. Thanks for the posting.
We're told that Judo beat Ju Ju Jitsu in 12 out of 15 matches.
We need to remember that Ju Jitsu is not a sport- so the set up of the matches would obviously have favoured Judo.
Half the techniques in Ju Jitsu are illegal in Judo.
I found Ju-Jitsu much more practical as a means of self defense.
@Beagboy4Ever i recognised some jujitsu techniques there
wow! Gracies have nothing on this!
That's it? Care to qualify that statement? Maybe produce a counter-argument?
L
PS For the record, Judo comes from Jiujitsu--the striking and more violent aspects were removed by Kano to allow it to become a sport.
Ah, wikipedia and google are wonderful things.
What a wonderful internet it would be if people only took 2 minutes before posting and did a little research.
You're Welcome.
@kf4ydh The techniques showed are Ju Jitsu technique... Judo was kano ryu ju jitsu... judo wasn,t focused on self protection... This is pure old ju jitsu..., sure, if you know how to see it!
WELL... VERY COOL
that look FUN AS HELL
@Beagboy4Ever so how do you know it's bartisu?
That was funny how he says "Now what would you do if I grab you around the throat like this." and then she locks him up and throws him and says "Id do that." and then he CASUALLY SAYS "Hm that's very interesting." like a typical brit.
Really. I thought it was a samurai form of hand to hand?
da best one iz probably grabing da guy leg n drop to drop , gives them a chance to run for help
This is the best thing I have ever seen.
Dominatrix from the early 1900 years.
The woman here was Edith Margaret Garrud. Google "Edith Margaret Garrud badass" for an interesting and hilarious article about her exploits.
This is not Edith Margaret Garrud. The film appears to be from 1937 (www.hellotasty.com/it/8F8rtzXIRSk/Watch_Free_Video_Recipe_Bob_Gregory_Aka_Woman_Judo_Self_Defence_(1937).html), so it isn't Edith Garrud - she was born in 1872, so would have been 65 years old when this was filmed. Edith was awesome though!
Grimbeard It was a Jiu Jitsu instructor called May Whitley. I think
Quickland - i have no idea sorry i know the early 1900's but that is it!!
really cool i like it
Real cool.
ahh happier times
Sara Meyer, This is Judo.
At this time it was still known as Kano juijitsu
Film is definitely from the '40s.
I'd loove to pin her down!
Oh yes it is.
Great¡¡
Head over heels...
this video is tight
Enjoy your trip?
In today's Britain, she'd be arrested for defending herself.
No she wouldn't.
I should take some lessons
looks more like judo in the first 2 mins
So much win. :)
Damsel in distress !!!!
That was no tickle!
Is this Edith Garrud?
why did the U.S. Military wait so long to teach Martial Arts to the soldiers,if i remember right it was somtime before they did.
No the US military taught martial arts pre-WW1 and used it in WW1. They taught Jiujitsu and boxing and wrestling.
@@MaharlikaAWA You are right. There is footage of the Jujitsu taught in WWI on TH-cam.
Boxing and wrestling are martial arts and the military innovated its own combatives
1945. my grampa watched this via live in london.
Are you talking about your own skills, or mine? Are all british men shorter than their women? Or are they just manlier than YOU (specifically).
dont mean to step on yer toes sir, but its demonstrating. not demen
Maybe that is the way people see it in the west now. I hold Dan rankings in Judo, Aikido and Jujitsu - and I assure you Judo is Jujitsu.
... and in a dress & heels no less!
Judo is jujitsu!
The so-called Jujitsu techniques shown here from the 1920's - 1930's are actually used in Street Fights and Brawling in the U.K and Europe.
So in any case , i could rather call this as Street Wrestling or Grappling.
In the 1897 - the police started using Jujitsu when Japan was forced for open trade. So , some of the more well educated Japanese Masters have stayed overseas and started teaching Jujitsu to the Constables.
1950's
jiu jitsu is best for women and children and smaller weaker men like me :)
omg . epic
This is the greatest thing ever made....
Sara Mayer
Brits are great!!!!!
topple that blighter on his ruddy pin, wot?
never compare judo and jujitsu? Maybe you need to research your info a little bit but they are the same shit.
the only differance is the rules dude and jujitsu focuses on Newaza and Judo focuses on Randori, but they both have the same tools and the ability to be equal in any stage of fighting depending on what they want to focus on,
Judos rules are a little restricting to jujitsu, bet to say that judo is far inferior is silly.
As you say- Judo was designed as sport, with rules allowing everyone to compete - regardless of where they came from.
Ju Jitsu evolved from the need to defend oneself - often against stronger or armed opponents. As such centres more on the Dirty B*stard style of fighting.
This video always makes me laugh. ;)
lol man I know it makes me so mad. Our school trains has gi and no gi days. All the people that talk trash, I wish they would approach a black belt and challenge them.
the human body moves in predictable patterns; all cultures developed some form of martial arts with different emphasis/priorities...
1937
That'll sort out the dirty rotten scoundrels!
(1940s hair and dress - definitely not 1960s)
Hilarious! I love it!