All soldiers deserve respect that's a given but sas and sbs are just different they have the most success rate of any special forces in the world that's why they are top of the rest 1 sas is scarier than 100 navy seals just saying 😂😂
@@kingofthebridge8339 Exactly that, if you're at level. I have no idea why people on line have the need for this shit comparison especially if they have never been anywhere near this world. It is very embarrassing and disrespectful. Mountain troop Royal Marines - unbelievable levels.
Civilians and keyboard warriors love this imaginary dick measuring. It's just "could spiderman beat batman in a fight" but between guys with tattoos and beer-bellies rather than comic nerds. The actual operators don't waste time on this shit.
Theres loads of interviews on yt.... the NZSAS SASR ST6 DELTA and 22 all crosstrain and go on secondments each year... they all respect eachother because they are tier 1.
It comes down to this, and various operators from all manner of countries have spoken on it, JSOC has an unlimited budget. Youve got a single Delta guy shooting more rounds in a year than even a white side SOF unit's entire squadron/platoon/etc. Most of the SAS/SBS guys ive seen talk about it mention the same. They just dont have the training budget that JSOC guys have. We owe a debt of gratitude to the Brits, the father of elite HR units, and our systems wouldnt be where they are today without those amazing SAS dudes that started it all.
Tbf I heard Christian craighead say he was shooting 1000 plus rounds on a training exercise just like Tyler grey so nowadays the budget is very similar back then yes
@@gootusfootus3229Speaking as someone who has lived both sides of the Pond,u have to.inject the culture &Laws into the discussion! .For example I'm reasonably confident in saying the SAS / SBS Guys( SF) can only carry their weapons,when their working ( in the field) and if they live off Base ( which many do) they're prohibited from keeping Guns/Ammo at home,because it's against the ( UK ) Law. .U see the restrictions it places on them! So an American who can't sleep& gets a motion to do some practice shooting can just go&do it,at his leisure,but the Brit SF don't have that luxury!
@@gootusfootus3229 i have had guys shoot 1600 9mm rds in two consecutive training days to achieve a draw fire 2 shots into the thinking zone at 10m in less than .5 seconds. Deltas first pistol course is two weeks of dry fire before a live rd is touched off. Why? Fundamentals matter. Then they progress on to other pustil skills. At the Delta compounds firing range the range flag is up 24/7. You can fire unlimited rds.
You guys are firing real guns when you’re still in junior school we’re building catapults from clothes pegs and elastic bands. I watched a video where an ex US soldier tested a British rifle. His only positive comment was that some of the Brits get used to it and can actually manage to hit targets with it That’s the UK government for you.
@@grahamhireme9283 there is likely more truth in what you say than you realize. On the whole Americans seem to be more comfortable and confident handling firearms. However the pre WW1 British Army had supremely high standards of rifle training and marksmanship way beyond any other country. Theres no real voodoo to training troops to shoot well but when you have students with a ingrained social phobia of firearms it impacts them.
@@weirdo1083they are very good, they come over here to Herefordshire sometimes and train alongside the 22 SAS-they share the same motto and I believe the same selection process-they are a solid and well respected commonwealth force :) it’s an honour to be alongside each other 💪🏼
Even though this guy’s content is nauseating in its Delta worship, but it is still provides much much much needed awareness of the greatness of the unit.
I remember, along time ago now, a rockape sniper taking 2 shots at a guy hiding, missed both times. An SBS guy took ( grabbed ) the rifle, and without zeroing, slotted him, in the face, first time. I know nothing more than that, but it seemed relevant to some degree.
Admitting the guy was a crack shot? Why the kudos? It's not a big deal. Anybody would admit when Anybody else was a better shot than them. It's called being gracious. It's only shooting. It doesn't make the complete soldier.
@@theophrastusbombastus1359 the entire selection, training, and continued experience of Delta speaks for itself. They're more than equals to anything the UK can push out.
This is a good example of minute differences in culture carrying over into the military. There is a much larger culture of gun ownership, shooting sports, and hunting in the US, and a lot of members of SOF units came up in this culture prior to even joining the military. Many members of US SOF units buy their own firearms similar to what they are issued at work, and become firearm enthusiasts- if they weren't doing that already. Some spend their off-duty hours training with these firearms, hunting, and participating in various types of competition, like 3 gun, IPSC/IDPA, long range matches, and so on. These opportunities abound in the US, esp. near some of the larger bases that SOF units inhabit, like Bragg, Campbell, Carson, Eglin, Benning, and so on. Regarding members of "delta", most all of them got there from other SOF units like army SF and Ranger regiment, where they are given fairly large allocations of ammunition and range opportunities of every type- much more so than any conventional unit, and a very high level of training within the unit from experienced instructors. This pays dividends when it comes to weapons proficiency and handling skills and building good habits and a baseline of skill. After all, advanced skills are mosty basic skills done very well. Then of course they move on to the higher tier, where they are trained in more advanced tactics and honed to that superior edge, with no expense spared to achieve this level of expertise. So I believe that considerations like exposure to firearms in general, repetition in quality training, and the other factors that give our "delta" personnel such a head start advantage over our counterparts in other countries is something that ends up making a difference when comparing finished products.
This is 100% true. I spent my formative years in the UK, and moved to Texas when I was a young teenager. American gun culture is very different. I know quite a few civilians that are extremely proficient weapons handlers... I own an AR-15 and a Glock 19 and have a gun club membership--most of my UK friends wouldn't even know how to rack a pistol. Christian Craighead alludes to this in one of his interviews.
It gives you a strange feeling shooting better than everyone around you, bringing alot of things together in a few moments, 100% successfully, almost becomes an out of body experience.... Well it felt that way for me,... Couldn't hit a barn door at 100yards now, getting old and bad eyesight... Hahaha... Great interview topic.... Thank you Gentlemen.
Charging Charlie Beckwith was Delta Force and SAS. Hes well worth a Google yet there wont be much on his SAS history. Check out the wings on his Uniform though. He is admired by many special operations guys. At 50 he was still passing fitness tests. He also lead a raid into Iran. Loads more stories.
Read his biography. Solid read. He was tough as nails and the exchange program US did with him while in SF to go over with SAS was all the inspiration he needed to build out Delta.
Respect your videos and honest interviews. Our british units have total respect for your forces. Delta and your seals, top class. Together with our lads unstoppable! Quality videos always👍
One of the SAS regiments has separated the CQB Black role element and given it away to Non-badged members who have at least half-completed selection. The Green role is now for badged men only, Mountain, Air, Vehicle and Water Troops, operating behind enemy lines, back to the original WW2 role. It makes sense as the Green role is in some ways more difficult than the Black role, and suits men with high pain thresholds and long-distance yomping and navigation abilities.
I think at the absolute elite level of any special forces, there is very little difference in level of ability. I think to even be at that level is to beyond normal human reckoning so any spec ops unit of any good training will be insanely OP. What I liike about the SAS selection process is that it's all very calm, very literal and objective oriented but with the main judging criterie being your adaptability and aptitude. This is all done without anyone barking orders and the main focus is on mental toughness (obviously physical too, but you already have that to be there in the first place).
😂 that's what the sas is about! You know, I know, everyone knows fook all about them and there capabilities. I'm also sure the sas trained the delta back in the day But hey ho The sas are so under the cover that they cannot even be commented on Just wish there were more of them
The UK is smaller than New York State & has built trade all over the world & built the best soldiers on the planet as the UK always had fewer numbers but made up for it with brilliance….
The Unit learned from the SAS by being trained by them, the question about who is better? That would be so tight of a competition it would come down to the individual person and then you got those genetic super dudes that can bend bullets and run all day smoking a non filter after drinking a dozen pints and a bottle the night before.
Like the interviewer, I too am putting every ounce of attention I have into understanding every 3rd or 4th word, just to maintain a general gist of the story.....
Its the most objective argument. SAS and SBS are the grandfather of modern US special forces. We know very little about them because the UK MOD never acknowledges their mission. Unlike the US SF community who are honored and celebrated publicly after combat operations. They are both Masters of their craft and I’m happy the SAS is on our side
Bro, it would be great if you can get some Operators on discussing the on going global event s, such as Ukraine and Russia. Apparently Putin sent 14 Tu Bombers to Ukraine with a cruise missle for each person killed. At the time the death toll was 133. Also what their take is on ex SF taking Merc jobs for Ukraine, most realizing they made a serious mistake.
Guns and money don't make you tough, having guts does. Americans rely on guns for protection, the British are naturally tough people. Fighting is a way of life, so give them fighters guns and you don't need loads of much else.
They have the experience from the early part off WW2 where they yes they invented special forces. Seals, Jtf2 and and all other should bow down and be humble
In yhe shooting comps the british normally win the rifle and the americans the pistol. The americans can shoot in their own time the british cant, they get more trigger time.
I think it gets clouded sometimes about what special forces actually do. Its not just about the gunfights or combat. Theres a LOT of hearts and minds stuff, intel gathering, secret squirrelly type stuff. Most SF guys would rather spend the time and avoid the fight. They'd probably prefer the Air Force drop a bomb from a drone or airstrike. If they're kicking in doors and clearing rooms, then yeah, its a gunfight. But the SAS specifically are like ninjas! Lol
At one time? Yeah. The last 30 years? NOPE. Funding and deployments push CAG harder especially during the GWOT. SAS is on par with CAG and there are documented incidents of both working together on missions frequently that make the news
This is the dumbest question possible, and I make that statement based on the title alone. In the first instance both the SAS and Delta train intensively for any operation and I would put money on either to beat any opposition. Further, I expect their marksmanship to be exemplary under any circumstances. But lets have a look at an Aussie SAS man. He, highly trained stepped through a door and faced a bunch of kids. He was shot and killed by a gunman standing behind the kids. The kids were a human shield that the SAS soldier refused to harm, but he did not know they were there until he went through that door. So who is better than who? Totally irrelevant.
the relationship between sas and sfod is legendary. i hate when people outside of those two groups argue over whos better. delta wouldn't exist without the sas. and because of that delta was able to do... just a fucking insane amount of work in oif and oef. hollywood movies can't even capture to how many doors these dudes knocked down. everything delta learned from the sas trickled down to all the other groups. recon, seals, recce, pj, 3rd group etc i don't think americans realize how important the sas and sbs were in shaping our t1 units
Not even close LOL . Our JSOC have killed/captured more HVTs and rescued more hostages over the past 20 years then 22, SBS, SASR, NZSAS and JTF-2 (combined) 😂
They’re worthy of respect for sure. Kinda dumb to say who is thee best as though a person can say that with certainty I’m sure they’re good at what they do and I like what I gather about their temperament and vibe. But I’m pretty sure the D boys don’t feel inferior to them
Simple WATCH Eon Films from 1982. Staring Lewis Collins 'WHO DARES WINS: Final OPTION'. As Instead of Using actors dressed in the CRW Blacks. The MoD ALLOWED The boys from the Regiment. To GIVE A "MORE Authentic" view of the film. And Also Used the Killing House, n Shooting Range. As scenes in the film. As This film is BASED ON The Storming of 16, Princess Gate, Kensington. 5th May 1980. But in the Film it's the Building of Pinewood Studios. Used as The American Ambassadors Residence.
Who cares if SAS or SBS or Delta and Seal teams are better than each other ? the point is they are all top tier and they are allies that fight together , now that is really tip of the Spear stuff to have these units in your arsenal .
Anglo refers to English... SAS was formed by Scottish and Scotsmen and this is a Scotsman in the video. Scottish are Celts, the natives on these island along with thr Irish. The Anglos (English) decend from the roman only recently.
@johnramage45 this idea doesn't help us going forward most of us are Anglo-Celtic at this point and it's the mixing and working together of all the people of this isles, that saw our cultures spread across the globe.
I've read various books written by x Regiment guys, SBS and 14Int. They do the training so much that it becomes muscle memory, u don't need to b very very good at something, it helps, but rhe training makes u good.
While the British had a massive influence over Delta, don't overplay it. A lot of butthurt folks from across the pond seems to insist that the 'SAS trained us, honed us". The SAS provided a number of key contributions, mostly the concept of selections , but training was done by numerous organizations and personnel- yes one guy from the SAS, some guys from KSK, GIGN, FBI, CIA, DSS, and even criminals. The idea that the" British trained Delta" is just dishonest. Yes, the SAS were in lead with their CT shooting skills(owing to experience in Ireland), but that last all about no more than 2 years in the 70s, because CT was new, and everyone was developing doctrine and contributing through cross training and sharing of TTP. The SAS played a role, but they didn't have the monopoly on this. US SMUs quickly closed that gap, and exceeded it. Pat McNamara describes opening more plane doors than an air stewardess, just to paint the picture on how tubular assaults were perfected in Bragg. TTP and technology developed at Bragg would than be shared through cross training, as with tactics developed in Hereford. ( like fast roping or HAHO techniques-SBS/SAS contributions for example). But CAG's success, is because of CAG. you didn't hone the, let alone train them. Jack Murphy sums it up in his Blue Light Series "Delta Force continued to evolve, developing not as an offshoot of British special operations, but as a distinctly American unit that had more in common with the OSS than the SAS. The British influence has always been there, though, largely due to Beckwith. " Countless interview with actual operators are out there, Peter Blabber, Shrek Mcphee, George IV Hand all paint a corroborated picture. Delta was already unmatched even in the 90s, I would argue even in the 80s. We didn't catch up, you fell behind.
@@ssgtomen621when you stop addressing people as 'dude' you might fool people for a little longer that your claims are to be taken seriously. You have just told me you are a kid or with the mindset of one relying upon an academic outlook, Which fits with your presentations.
@@budte Oh hands down forever a kid. Believe me, still working on growing up. But, for someone who seems to allegedly shy aware from ad hominums, you seem to only have that as a response when actually confronted with the truth, or 'academic outlook', as you put. Sine Pari, 'dude'. PS: claim vs fact. Wanna look that up.
All I`ve heard from the SAS itself is that they like what they do. They use live ammunision in their training and during the Iranian Embassy Siege in 1982 they were hoping that negotiations between the British Government and the Terrorists would fail - so that they could do what they are trained to do.
@@DirtyMikeandTheBoys69 Basra Iraq also did not go well either. Nearly eight weeks after British forces entered Basra, they still have not addressed basic security needs in Iraq's second largest city, Human Rights Watch said today. Journalists entering the city in early April in the wake of British forces reported thousands of looters carrying on their activity in plain view of British troops. The failure to respond convinced many residents that security was not a priority for British forces.
@irishseven100 very true. All while the British continued to criticize American tactics as "gung ho" and pointless. In the end, British forces would withdraw from the city and even pay the insurgents not to attack them in the process.
Why this nonsense about who is better than who? My guess is that you couldn't get a cigarette paper betwern US and UK special forces in terms of how good they are.
Lol. I constantly hear about how Delta copies SAS training so it must be better - based on nothing. In fact, Delta produces what are called 'perfect shooters', meaning that every round goes where they want it and they never fire a single round that isn't intentional. Note he's comparing to the idiotic SEAL training (most SEALs arrive with no combat training, whereas most Delta candidates are already Green Berets or Ranger regiment types, who fight better than non-DevGru SEALs before Delta training. SAS are great, but the scale of Delta in terms of people and tech and org and capabilities are an order of magnitude better than SAS or any specforces team on Earth. SAS also draws from military. Nothing to be ashamed of, SAS are legends. But as this guy notes, Delta is just at another level. U.S. should shut down SEALs they are war criminals and an embarrassment to the military.
SAS are the first and the best. SAS always train for headshots so you have a guaranteed kill. Delta was modelled on SAS. What came first the chicken or the egg? The SAS did.
I always end up reading comments comparing the SAS and Delta Force, the SBS vs Navy Seals,Brit Para's vs U.S Rangers..And the 'Dick' measuring is silly because they both train &,work together..But the U.S have numbers and resources!
In the real world when they were counter ambushed by Argentinian SOF patrols in the Falklands war, they came off second best. That's the only time I am aware of them facing another unit with a SOF skillset in a green role But a mythological brand has been build around them
I would say that the majority of people in a hostage situation world wide if given the choice would choose the SAS all day long. Because past history and results say it all. However I think the American SF are just as good if not better in other situations. I'm proud to be British but also relieved that our brothers across the pond have our backs.
Generally in competition Americans are a bit better with pistols, Brits are a bit better with rifles. Even more reason when we fight an enemy together for the enemy to be scared!
SAS and NAVY SEALS ,DELTA FORCE are specialists superior warriors, but the sas can't explain it but have natural flair, not all robotic they seem to enjoy what they do ,God bless them all
Why wouldn`t they be, the Delta-force is based on the SAS not the other way aound, all special forces should be compared TO! the SAS, not the other way around.
Who do to think created you’re delta 🤣🤣🤣 One you’re guys come to train with our SAS and decided there and then American needed a special forces we literally trained you guys 🤷
You have rather shamefully taken one single incident of one exceptional Delta marksman and presented it as evidence of Delta's entire wholesale superiority. I can tell you that up until at least the late 1990s joint training exercises with US special forces were in reality the SAS training or honing them. Perhaps you have caught up by now, but be grateful to who showed you how. I would suspect however, that SAS operatives have greater personal resourcefulness/resiliance and will survive solo and without support better. Edit: some of my replies to the responses below are disappearing. lol. I had an immediate family member who had an armed role at the SAS base in Hereford (before it moved to Credenhill) from something like the early or mid 80s until the mid or late 90s - now in their 80s and long gone deaf from years of live gunfire training. At least up until that time it was well known that US SF might officially be training with the SAS, but in reality they were not at the same level and were effectively being trained by them. This statement seems to upset some Americans. It is not however a specaltive opinion one might have of watching lots of youtube videos - it is either happened or it did not.
Weird. Did his story injure you emotionally? At no point did he say that all of Delta/CAG was superior. He told the story of one operator that they trained with. There are exceptional people in many units. Sometimes you run into one; it happens.
@@MVK_GSI am not 'injured emotioanlly'. I am annoyed. It was not presented as one 'exceptional' person. Look at the video title 'Better than Delta force?' - then goes takes out of a whole interview one little segment where the SAS solider talks about one instance with one Delta operative. Deliberately misleading and dishonest.
@@spytown77Budget does matter and I have a great deal of respect for my American cousins. This one deliberate misrepresentation by one individual is what I am referring to.
I think both units are defined by their similarities rather than their differences. From my understanding when the delta chaps come over on exchange they slot straight in and are welcomed. To quote one chap: “they really good guys they sort our pistol shooting out we sort their drinking out”. 😂
There is no way to know. Bottom line, we are fortunate (in the US) to have had access to the SAS to help us model our most elite units. Even if a US unit is better than the SAS for a week or a year, or whenever, we have the Brits to thank for that and it is a credit to just how good they are.
I will speak with him, he doesn't fully understand what's going on. I am also a combat veteran from the British army and many more. Let's talk about solutions 🕊️❤️☘️🙏
I'm just looking at his gold Rolex and wondering if he consults as a vet now, because while in service, nfw could he afford that watch, unless it dropped while he was in country somewhere and it was holding on to someone that was slowly becoming a cold body. I think the whole 'were you just a good shooter' thing answer was disingenuous at best because even Olympic athletes or myself having things I was good at, still had to put in the work and thousands of hours to make everything super fast and unconscious action. Slow is smooth and smooth is fast. No way around it. No one gets born with Instinctive shooting.
@@yyy-875 Like I've said above, every Olympic athlete is like that. Just because of being born with genetic talent that never translates into not having to train their butts off. I did... I became a very rare snowflake /sk That being said, your response is a kind of deflection, distraction, obfuscating response. Communicaton 101 for special ed forces operators, btw. The main intention of my comment was normal soldiers or sailors don't get rich like that. My uncle was Command Master Chief of the USS Forrestal. The Navy retired HIM, after 30 years in. He never wanted to leave. He never got rich... he did modify the ship so they had a private gambling room though... he used to send my mom stuff from around the world, but nothing like a Rolex.
Mindless & infantile comparisons comparing UK & US special forces, who cares,give it a bloody rest.Always reminds me of those those football hooligan gangs going on about who were the toughest.Respect for each others particular qualities is a more appropriate approach.
He is not a 'Brit' he is a Scottish guy north of Hadrian's Wall the orginal Scots were the Picts and even in todays Ireland it was called by the Romans and Greeks as Scotia = Land of the Scots and the tribe was called the Scotii there was no Ireland it was a tribal island and one of the major tribes was the Scotii❤
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We need to quit comparing the two. They’re both badass. They both are honorable. I respect both.
All soldiers deserve respect that's a given but sas and sbs are just different they have the most success rate of any special forces in the world that's why they are top of the rest 1 sas is scarier than 100 navy seals just saying 😂😂
Also is stupid because some Delta guys will be better than SAS and then some SAS will be better than Delta.
@@kingofthebridge8339 Exactly that, if you're at level. I have no idea why people on line have the need for this shit comparison especially if they have never been anywhere near this world. It is very embarrassing and disrespectful. Mountain troop Royal Marines - unbelievable levels.
Civilians and keyboard warriors love this imaginary dick measuring. It's just "could spiderman beat batman in a fight" but between guys with tattoos and beer-bellies rather than comic nerds. The actual operators don't waste time on this shit.
Theres loads of interviews on yt.... the NZSAS SASR ST6 DELTA and 22 all crosstrain and go on secondments each year... they all respect eachother because they are tier 1.
It comes down to this, and various operators from all manner of countries have spoken on it, JSOC has an unlimited budget. Youve got a single Delta guy shooting more rounds in a year than even a white side SOF unit's entire squadron/platoon/etc. Most of the SAS/SBS guys ive seen talk about it mention the same. They just dont have the training budget that JSOC guys have. We owe a debt of gratitude to the Brits, the father of elite HR units, and our systems wouldnt be where they are today without those amazing SAS dudes that started it all.
Tbf I heard Christian craighead say he was shooting 1000 plus rounds on a training exercise just like Tyler grey so nowadays the budget is very similar back then yes
@@gootusfootus3229Speaking as someone who has lived both sides of the Pond,u have to.inject the culture &Laws into the discussion! .For example I'm reasonably confident in saying the SAS / SBS Guys( SF) can only carry their weapons,when their working ( in the field) and if they live off Base ( which many do) they're prohibited from keeping Guns/Ammo at home,because it's against the ( UK ) Law.
.U see the restrictions it places on them!
So an American who can't sleep& gets a motion to do some practice shooting can just go&do it,at his leisure,but the Brit SF don't have that luxury!
@@gootusfootus3229 i have had guys shoot 1600 9mm rds in two consecutive training days to achieve a draw fire 2 shots into the thinking zone at 10m in less than .5 seconds. Deltas first pistol course is two weeks of dry fire before a live rd is touched off. Why? Fundamentals matter. Then they progress on to other pustil skills. At the Delta compounds firing range the range flag is up 24/7. You can fire unlimited rds.
You guys are firing real guns when you’re still in junior school we’re building catapults from clothes pegs and elastic bands. I watched a video where an ex US soldier tested a British rifle. His only positive comment was that some of the Brits get used to it and can actually manage to hit targets with it That’s the UK government for you.
@@grahamhireme9283 there is likely more truth in what you say than you realize. On the whole Americans seem to be more comfortable and confident handling firearms. However the pre WW1 British Army had supremely high standards of rifle training and marksmanship way beyond any other country. Theres no real voodoo to training troops to shoot well but when you have students with a ingrained social phobia of firearms it impacts them.
For a small country we have done amazing things
Australian sasr arent bad either.
@@weirdo1083Ah yes Australia that really small country…. 😂
@@sk8ermGsYep that really big country Australia with is massive population of 26.1 million makes India & china look small😂
@@paulwatson9217Uk has triple the population of Australia.
@@weirdo1083they are very good, they come over here to Herefordshire sometimes and train alongside the 22 SAS-they share the same motto and I believe the same selection process-they are a solid and well respected commonwealth force :) it’s an honour to be alongside each other 💪🏼
Thank u for fighting with us. Mad respect ❤
Appreciate both his confidence in own ability and his honest assessment of Delta.
Even though this guy’s content is nauseating in its Delta worship, but it is still provides much much much needed awareness of the greatness of the unit.
Yeah hes from the old set of SAS. The new boys are on the range 24/7. Craighead is a perfect example. Check his range sessions out.
Brits never miss an opportunity to credit to someone else. The humbleness of the Anglo is under appreciated
He's Scottish.
@@Sabhail_ar_Alba you are brown
@@Sabhail_ar_Alba scotland is part of britian
@@sneed777what makes you say he's brown? And he's right the SAS guy is Scottish
@@Sabhail_ar_Alba Britain includes Scotland
I remember, along time ago now, a rockape sniper taking 2 shots at a guy hiding, missed both times. An SBS guy took ( grabbed ) the rifle, and without zeroing, slotted him, in the face, first time.
I know nothing more than that, but it seemed relevant to some degree.
"A rockape sniper"
Funny. 😂
Kudos to Bruce for admitting that about the Delta guy.
Admitting the guy was a crack shot? Why the kudos? It's not a big deal. Anybody would admit when Anybody else was a better shot than them. It's called being gracious.
It's only shooting. It doesn't make the complete soldier.
@@theophrastusbombastus1359 the entire selection, training, and continued experience of Delta speaks for itself. They're more than equals to anything the UK can push out.
@@theophrastusbombastus1359👍👍👍👍
The best soldier ever was Bazooka Bill, Commodore64 1986. That was some mission !
Wait until you find out about Jamsheed 🤙🏻😂 what a bloke that man is
Lmfao
Hard as nails, they don’t make them like they used to 😂
I was thinking “I wonder if this guy knows about Billy Waugh”….then I realized you were joking 😂
If any team was coming to my rescue, I would want it to be Delta or SAS in whatever order.
if any team was coming to my rescue, i'd want it to be SAS. if i had a choice, it'll only be SAS
@@sultanabran1or 1NZSAS or SASR
@@sultanabran1 Delta are modelled on SAS....very capable guys 👍
This is a good example of minute differences in culture carrying over into the military. There is a much larger culture of gun ownership, shooting sports, and hunting in the US, and a lot of members of SOF units came up in this culture prior to even joining the military. Many members of US SOF units buy their own firearms similar to what they are issued at work, and become firearm enthusiasts- if they weren't doing that already. Some spend their off-duty hours training with these firearms, hunting, and participating in various types of competition, like 3 gun, IPSC/IDPA, long range matches, and so on. These opportunities abound in the US, esp. near some of the larger bases that SOF units inhabit, like Bragg, Campbell, Carson, Eglin, Benning, and so on. Regarding members of "delta", most all of them got there from other SOF units like army SF and Ranger regiment, where they are given fairly large allocations of ammunition and range opportunities of every type- much more so than any conventional unit, and a very high level of training within the unit from experienced instructors. This pays dividends when it comes to weapons proficiency and handling skills and building good habits and a baseline of skill. After all, advanced skills are mosty basic skills done very well. Then of course they move on to the higher tier, where they are trained in more advanced tactics and honed to that superior edge, with no expense spared to achieve this level of expertise. So I believe that considerations like exposure to firearms in general, repetition in quality training, and the other factors that give our "delta" personnel such a head start advantage over our counterparts in other countries is something that ends up making a difference when comparing finished products.
Shut up
This is 100% true. I spent my formative years in the UK, and moved to Texas when I was a young teenager. American gun culture is very different. I know quite a few civilians that are extremely proficient weapons handlers... I own an AR-15 and a Glock 19 and have a gun club membership--most of my UK friends wouldn't even know how to rack a pistol. Christian Craighead alludes to this in one of his interviews.
Nice Home Cinema set up dude!!!!!!!!
It gives you a strange feeling shooting better than everyone around you, bringing alot of things together in a few moments, 100% successfully, almost becomes an out of body experience.... Well it felt that way for me,... Couldn't hit a barn door at 100yards now, getting old and bad eyesight... Hahaha... Great interview topic.... Thank you Gentlemen.
You have to be a very special kind of person to succeed in the SAS.
Definitely.
No shit Sherlock
Same as delta force
Delta and the SAS will always be connected. Delta was literally created because of the SAS. Brothers, always.
Charging Charlie Beckwith was Delta Force and SAS.
Hes well worth a Google yet there wont be much on his SAS history.
Check out the wings on his Uniform though.
He is admired by many special operations guys. At 50 he was still passing fitness tests.
He also lead a raid into Iran.
Loads more stories.
Read his biography. Solid read. He was tough as nails and the exchange program US did with him while in SF to go over with SAS was all the inspiration he needed to build out Delta.
They are both peak male warfighters. They are both very capable of doing the same jobs.
Do we have to sexualise our fighters? I totally respect what you do in the privacy of your own home but this isn't the time or place.
Im sorry, was there a woman mentioned as part of SAS or Delta. My apologies if I missed it.
@@chitterlingsrtastyactually yes
Respect your videos and honest interviews. Our british units have total respect for your forces. Delta and your seals, top class. Together with our lads unstoppable! Quality videos always👍
One of the SAS regiments has separated the CQB Black role element and given it away to Non-badged members who have at least half-completed selection. The Green role is now for badged men only, Mountain, Air, Vehicle and Water Troops, operating behind enemy lines, back to the original WW2 role. It makes sense as the Green role is in some ways more difficult than the Black role, and suits men with high pain thresholds and long-distance yomping and navigation abilities.
source for this claim?
@@watchingyoutube5093 The CO himself.
@@bigglesharrumpher4139well that’s wrong because they’re still responding to CT calls 😂 and still do CT training on the regular
@@watchingyoutube5093trust me bro 😎
@@RoxOutdoors That is 'D' Squadron and they are not fully badged members.
SAS best in the world bless all you lad's
He reminds me of my dad telling stories, I like to pretend I’m getting heart problems or stab wounds when ever he tries lol
I think at the absolute elite level of any special forces, there is very little difference in level of ability. I think to even be at that level is to beyond normal human reckoning so any spec ops unit of any good training will be insanely OP. What I liike about the SAS selection process is that it's all very calm, very literal and objective oriented but with the main judging criterie being your adaptability and aptitude. This is all done without anyone barking orders and the main focus is on mental toughness (obviously physical too, but you already have that to be there in the first place).
9/11..I was on the Al Jebel Mountains in the Oman, with 36000 other UK Military Personnel on EX Saif Sareea. Things changed very quickly.
Massive respect to our US allies over the pond 🙂
Just gonna say this: SAS has the history, but Delta owns the present.
Right ok mate😂
@franciscouch8378 I'm biased. 🤣 They're the same apples one is just grown across the street.
@@dominic4949you ask your own spec ops community who is the best and to a man they will say 22SAS
You wish 😂 @@Lilstaryourgirl719
😂 that's what the sas is about!
You know, I know, everyone knows fook all about them and there capabilities.
I'm also sure the sas trained the delta back in the day
But hey ho
The sas are so under the cover that they cannot even be commented on
Just wish there were more of them
The UK is smaller than New York State & has built trade all over the world & built the best soldiers on the planet as the UK always had fewer numbers but made up for it with brilliance….
The UK is significantly larger than NY State.
- NY State; 141,297 km2
- UK; 244,376 km2
…. Second best!! ;-}. MM
Awesome..love your uploads sir 💯💯🇬🇧🇺🇸👍🏼
The tone of his voice..."Ye, who'd of thought that!! Like he didn't know!!
What's the question mark for..
DF have to except they are only going for second place at best. SAS/SBS are top dog and always will be.
The Unit learned from the SAS by being trained by them, the question about who is better? That would be so tight of a competition it would come down to the individual person and then you got those genetic super dudes that can bend bullets and run all day smoking a non filter after drinking a dozen pints and a bottle the night before.
Like the interviewer, I too am putting every ounce of attention I have into understanding every 3rd or 4th word, just to maintain a general gist of the story.....
Is the guy from Britain not talking good English for you.
Its the most objective argument. SAS and SBS are the grandfather of modern US special forces. We know very little about them because the UK MOD never acknowledges their mission. Unlike the US SF community who are honored and celebrated publicly after combat operations. They are both Masters of their craft and I’m happy the SAS is on our side
The interviewer needs to apply some Snowpake to his philtrum 🤣😂.
Bro, it would be great if you can get some Operators on discussing the on going global event s, such as Ukraine and Russia.
Apparently Putin sent 14 Tu Bombers to Ukraine with a cruise missle for each person killed. At the time the death toll was 133.
Also what their take is on ex SF taking Merc jobs for Ukraine, most realizing they made a serious mistake.
These men do so much of their training in noddy suits & resi’s.
How long have we been doing this that’s why the guys are the best
Paddy Maine would be so proud
I'll tell you what. If I was in trouble I would be very grateful if either one saved my ass!
I’d be grateful if anyone save my ass 😂
✊✊respect from uk 🇬🇧 to all our allies ✊
SBS gets my vote.
Guns and money don't make you tough, having guts does. Americans rely on guns for protection, the British are naturally tough people. Fighting is a way of life, so give them fighters guns and you don't need loads of much else.
Delta is based on the SAS
They have the experience from the early part off WW2 where they yes they invented special forces. Seals, Jtf2 and and all other should bow down and be humble
In yhe shooting comps the british normally win the rifle and the americans the pistol.
The americans can shoot in their own time the british cant, they get more trigger time.
The deadliest technique is the one that kills you!
I think it gets clouded sometimes about what special forces actually do. Its not just about the gunfights or combat. Theres a LOT of hearts and minds stuff, intel gathering, secret squirrelly type stuff. Most SF guys would rather spend the time and avoid the fight. They'd probably prefer the Air Force drop a bomb from a drone or airstrike. If they're kicking in doors and clearing rooms, then yeah, its a gunfight. But the SAS specifically are like ninjas! Lol
At one time? Yeah. The last 30 years? NOPE. Funding and deployments push CAG harder especially during the GWOT.
SAS is on par with CAG and there are documented incidents of both working together on missions frequently that make the news
the guy with me in my tumb nail is rusty firmin
The start of this video is the truth and reality of the modern day world!
This is the dumbest question possible, and I make that statement based on the title alone. In the first instance both the SAS and Delta train intensively for any operation and I would put money on either to beat any opposition. Further, I expect their marksmanship to be exemplary under any circumstances. But lets have a look at an Aussie SAS man. He, highly trained stepped through a door and faced a bunch of kids. He was shot and killed by a gunman standing behind the kids. The kids were a human shield that the SAS soldier refused to harm, but he did not know they were there until he went through that door. So who is better than who? Totally irrelevant.
Remember you have to be already a soldier to apply
the relationship between sas and sfod is legendary.
i hate when people outside of those two groups argue over whos better.
delta wouldn't exist without the sas. and because of that delta was able to do... just a fucking insane amount of work in oif and oef. hollywood movies can't even capture to how many doors these dudes knocked down.
everything delta learned from the sas trickled down to all the other groups. recon, seals, recce, pj, 3rd group etc
i don't think americans realize how important the sas and sbs were in shaping our t1 units
what is it with spec ops dudes and tattoos? ain't never seen one without inks
the SAS are the best in the world facts
Not even close LOL . Our JSOC have killed/captured more HVTs and rescued more hostages over the past 20 years then 22, SBS, SASR, NZSAS and JTF-2 (combined) 😂
They’re worthy of respect for sure. Kinda dumb to say who is thee best as though a person can say that with certainty
I’m sure they’re good at what they do and I like what I gather about their temperament and vibe. But I’m pretty sure the D boys don’t feel inferior to them
Very similar
Simple WATCH Eon Films from 1982. Staring Lewis Collins 'WHO DARES WINS: Final OPTION'. As Instead of Using actors dressed in the CRW Blacks. The MoD ALLOWED The boys from the Regiment. To GIVE A "MORE Authentic" view of the film. And Also Used the Killing House, n Shooting Range. As scenes in the film. As This film is BASED ON The Storming of 16, Princess Gate, Kensington. 5th May 1980. But in the Film it's the Building of Pinewood Studios. Used as The American Ambassadors Residence.
Who cares if SAS or SBS or Delta and Seal teams are better than each other ? the point is they are all top tier and they are allies that fight together , now that is really tip of the Spear stuff to have these units in your arsenal .
I doubt whether they'll still be the best in a few years after these turkeys in charge of the armed forces have done their EDI business.
SAS taught Delta!
Delta, The regiment and other SAS are the peak of the Anglo sphere
Anglo refers to English... SAS was formed by Scottish and Scotsmen and this is a Scotsman in the video.
Scottish are Celts, the natives on these island along with thr Irish. The Anglos (English) decend from the roman only recently.
@johnramage45 this idea doesn't help us going forward most of us are Anglo-Celtic at this point and it's the mixing and working together of all the people of this isles, that saw our cultures spread across the globe.
I'm British, and we think that the Americans are great.
There must be an advantage in learning to shoot when your little kid
SAS best special fighting forces in the world,counter terrorism for example,no one can touch them.
I've read various books written by x Regiment guys, SBS and 14Int. They do the training so much that it becomes muscle memory, u don't need to b very very good at something, it helps, but rhe training makes u good.
While the British had a massive influence over Delta, don't overplay it. A lot of butthurt folks from across the pond seems to insist that the 'SAS trained us, honed us". The SAS provided a number of key contributions, mostly the concept of selections , but training was done by numerous organizations and personnel- yes one guy from the SAS, some guys from KSK, GIGN, FBI, CIA, DSS, and even criminals. The idea that the" British trained Delta" is just dishonest. Yes, the SAS were in lead with their CT shooting skills(owing to experience in Ireland), but that last all about no more than 2 years in the 70s, because CT was new, and everyone was developing doctrine and contributing through cross training and sharing of TTP. The SAS played a role, but they didn't have the monopoly on this. US SMUs quickly closed that gap, and exceeded it. Pat McNamara describes opening more plane doors than an air stewardess, just to paint the picture on how tubular assaults were perfected in Bragg. TTP and technology developed at Bragg would than be shared through cross training, as with tactics developed in Hereford. ( like fast roping or HAHO techniques-SBS/SAS contributions for example). But CAG's success, is because of CAG. you didn't hone the, let alone train them.
Jack Murphy sums it up in his Blue Light Series
"Delta Force continued to evolve, developing not as an offshoot of British special operations, but as a distinctly American unit that had more in common with the OSS than the SAS. The British influence has always been there, though, largely due to Beckwith. "
Countless interview with actual operators are out there, Peter Blabber, Shrek Mcphee, George IV Hand all paint a corroborated picture. Delta was already unmatched even in the 90s, I would argue even in the 80s. We didn't catch up, you fell behind.
The irony.
@@budte No, the horror. Wake up mate, or stay behind
@@ssgtomen621when you stop addressing people as 'dude' you might fool people for a little longer that your claims are to be taken seriously. You have just told me you are a kid or with the mindset of one relying upon an academic outlook, Which fits with your presentations.
@@budte Oh hands down forever a kid. Believe me, still working on growing up. But, for someone who seems to allegedly shy aware from ad hominums, you seem to only have that as a response when actually confronted with the truth, or 'academic outlook', as you put. Sine Pari, 'dude'.
PS: claim vs fact. Wanna look that up.
@@ssgtomen621 'Sine Pari' ? Are you now stating or implying you were/are US SF?
Let's see.
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Deltas pistol course is 5 weeks. I doubt the SAS pistol trg is that comprehensive.
Well we don’t really know how long the sas train strictly on pistols for. They never specifically talk about, it’s a lot though
Well delta copied SAS training and selection sooo.. I doubt your guess is based on anything but blind patriotism
All I`ve heard from the SAS itself is that they like what they do. They use live ammunision in their training and during the Iranian Embassy Siege in 1982 they were hoping that negotiations between the British Government and the Terrorists would fail - so that they could do what they are trained to do.
The British are Legendary Gunfighters? Of course they are. Just look at their performance in Helmand Province. Especially in 2008 and 2009.
Helmand went very poor for the British....
@@DirtyMikeandTheBoys69 Basra Iraq also did not go well either. Nearly eight weeks after British forces entered Basra, they still have not addressed basic security needs in Iraq's second largest city, Human Rights Watch said today.
Journalists entering the city in early April in the wake of British forces reported thousands of looters carrying on their activity in plain view of British troops. The failure to respond convinced many residents that security was not a priority for British forces.
@irishseven100 very true. All while the British continued to criticize American tactics as "gung ho" and pointless. In the end, British forces would withdraw from the city and even pay the insurgents not to attack them in the process.
@@irishseven100 so their “poor performance” was not in gun fights 😂
SAS and SBS all day Trev
I’ve seen Action
Why this nonsense about who is better than who?
My guess is that you couldn't get a cigarette paper betwern US and UK special forces in terms of how good they are.
Lol. I constantly hear about how Delta copies SAS training so it must be better - based on nothing. In fact, Delta produces what are called 'perfect shooters', meaning that every round goes where they want it and they never fire a single round that isn't intentional. Note he's comparing to the idiotic SEAL training (most SEALs arrive with no combat training, whereas most Delta candidates are already Green Berets or Ranger regiment types, who fight better than non-DevGru SEALs before Delta training. SAS are great, but the scale of Delta in terms of people and tech and org and capabilities are an order of magnitude better than SAS or any specforces team on Earth. SAS also draws from military. Nothing to be ashamed of, SAS are legends. But as this guy notes, Delta is just at another level. U.S. should shut down SEALs they are war criminals and an embarrassment to the military.
SAS is Delta’s dad🫡
SAS schooled DELTA
Is this the little bodybuilding guy?
What a bitchy remark. Jealousy really makes you nasty.
SAS are the first and the best. SAS always train for headshots so you have a guaranteed kill. Delta was modelled on SAS. What came first the chicken or the egg? The SAS did.
The best eh? Do you base that on your extensive experience working with both?
Only an idiot would compare the SAS to Delta force, as their mission profiles are completely different, it's like comparing banana's to lemons.
What is different about the mission profiles, and what is your basis for stating so?
@@Dr.Ian-Plect SAS are counter-terrorism, intel gathering, forward air control, close protection and sabotage. It that diff to delta?
I always end up reading comments comparing the SAS and Delta Force, the SBS vs Navy Seals,Brit Para's vs U.S Rangers..And the 'Dick' measuring is silly because they both train &,work together..But the U.S have numbers and resources!
The Americans are our FINEST Allie’s ! Would anyone British like to fight alongside the French ? !
The West is changing rapidly because of unchecked immigration. Who knows.......
The French are top tier and an awesome fighting force. Your prejudice is showing.
“We’re in the pockets of America”, so who were “the delegates”?
In the real world when they were counter ambushed by Argentinian SOF patrols in the Falklands war, they came off second best. That's the only time I am aware of them facing another unit with a SOF skillset in a green role But a mythological brand has been build around them
Delta force was created around the SAS. No sas no delta force
I would say that the majority of people in a hostage situation world wide if given the choice would choose the SAS all day long. Because past history and results say it all. However I think the American SF are just as good if not better in other situations. I'm proud to be British but also relieved that our brothers across the pond have our backs.
Generally in competition Americans are a bit better with pistols, Brits are a bit better with rifles.
Even more reason when we fight an enemy together for the enemy to be scared!
What an absolute load of Shiite 💩
SAS and NAVY SEALS ,DELTA FORCE are specialists superior warriors, but the sas can't explain it but have natural flair, not all robotic they seem to enjoy what they do ,God bless them all
Why wouldn`t they be, the Delta-force is based on the SAS not the other way aound, all special forces should be compared TO! the SAS, not the other way around.
Who do to think created you’re delta 🤣🤣🤣
One you’re guys come to train with our SAS and decided there and then American needed a special forces we literally trained you guys 🤷
SAS/SBS wins! Only because they have a better sense of humour 😂 everything else is equal. ALL forces will confirm this, just ask em
You have rather shamefully taken one single incident of one exceptional Delta marksman and presented it as evidence of Delta's entire wholesale superiority. I can tell you that up until at least the late 1990s joint training exercises with US special forces were in reality the SAS training or honing them. Perhaps you have caught up by now, but be grateful to who showed you how. I would suspect however, that SAS operatives have greater personal resourcefulness/resiliance and will survive solo and without support better.
Edit: some of my replies to the responses below are disappearing. lol. I had an immediate family member who had an armed role at the SAS base in Hereford (before it moved to Credenhill) from something like the early or mid 80s until the mid or late 90s - now in their 80s and long gone deaf from years of live gunfire training. At least up until that time it was well known that US SF might officially be training with the SAS, but in reality they were not at the same level and were effectively being trained by them. This statement seems to upset some Americans. It is not however a specaltive opinion one might have of watching lots of youtube videos - it is either happened or it did not.
Weird. Did his story injure you emotionally? At no point did he say that all of Delta/CAG was superior. He told the story of one operator that they trained with. There are exceptional people in many units. Sometimes you run into one; it happens.
Were you Delta or SAS? Then who cares what you think. Did the SAS operator seem to be bothered by his own comments?
Delta Force operators refer to their team mates as "mates" as a nod to their SAS orgin! That said, budget matters! 🇺🇲
@@MVK_GSI am not 'injured emotioanlly'. I am annoyed. It was not presented as one 'exceptional' person. Look at the video title 'Better than Delta force?' - then goes takes out of a whole interview one little segment where the SAS solider talks about one instance with one Delta operative. Deliberately misleading and dishonest.
@@spytown77Budget does matter and I have a great deal of respect for my American cousins. This one deliberate misrepresentation by one individual is what I am referring to.
22 SAS is good but nobody shoots like Americans.
Fuckin A 🤘🇺🇲👊
Nobody shoots friendly forces like Americans 🤣🤣🤣
SAS trained you.
I think both units are defined by their similarities rather than their differences. From my understanding when the delta chaps come over on exchange they slot straight in and are welcomed. To quote one chap: “they really good guys they sort our pistol shooting out we sort their drinking out”. 😂
There is no way to know. Bottom line, we are fortunate (in the US) to have had access to the SAS to help us model our most elite units. Even if a US unit is better than the SAS for a week or a year, or whenever, we have the Brits to thank for that and it is a credit to just how good they are.
Why aren't the SAS in Europe finding people smugglers and dealing with them?
Our intelligence services will already be running all that.
Actually half of Europe ask the sas to come in to train them
Because people in power are benefitting from it.
@@Micheal-Knight-obviously not working then 🤔
@@nigelbase1196 they want them in for our economy. They could stop it over night if they wanted.
I will speak with him, he doesn't fully understand what's going on. I am also a combat veteran from the British army and many more. Let's talk about solutions 🕊️❤️☘️🙏
I'm just looking at his gold Rolex and wondering if he consults as a vet now, because while in service, nfw could he afford that watch, unless it dropped while he was in country somewhere and it was holding on to someone that was slowly becoming a cold body.
I think the whole 'were you just a good shooter' thing answer was disingenuous at best because even Olympic athletes or myself having things I was good at, still had to put in the work and thousands of hours to make everything super fast and unconscious action.
Slow is smooth and smooth is fast. No way around it. No one gets born with Instinctive shooting.
@@yyy-875 Like I've said above, every Olympic athlete is like that. Just because of being born with genetic talent that never translates into not having to train their butts off. I did... I became a very rare snowflake /sk
That being said, your response is a kind of deflection, distraction, obfuscating response. Communicaton 101 for special ed forces operators, btw.
The main intention of my comment was normal soldiers or sailors don't get rich like that.
My uncle was Command Master Chief of the USS Forrestal. The Navy retired HIM, after 30 years in. He never wanted to leave. He never got rich... he did modify the ship so they had a private gambling room though... he used to send my mom stuff from around the world, but nothing like a Rolex.
I've been spouting this from 1982 when I left the army.we were fucked then when we where borrowing everything from the yanks
Mindless & infantile comparisons comparing UK & US special forces, who cares,give it a bloody rest.Always reminds me of those those football hooligan gangs going on about who were the toughest.Respect for each others particular qualities is a more appropriate approach.
i'm so tough I eat the black jelly beans first
He is not a 'Brit' he is a Scottish guy north of Hadrian's Wall the orginal Scots were the Picts and even in todays Ireland it was called by the Romans and Greeks as Scotia = Land of the Scots and the tribe was called the Scotii there was no Ireland it was a tribal island and one of the major tribes was the Scotii❤
Ok my Viking friend
Scots are Brits what are you talking about . Just look at a map
SAS led so Delta could follow