I've had to remove the clips I used in the previous video, and hopefully, now, it shouldn't be blocked in 247 countries. The last video could only be watched in the US (not even I could watch it, the original uploader). Help the channel out by sharing this with a friend and giving the video a like (momentum is really important for videos, and it's really gutting for me that I won't have the 100K to fall back on I had last video. That was really good for me). QotD: Which is your favourite class at school? Stay nerdy! ~ Tim
Wait, so Tim, DREAMWORKS PAYS you to make these vids?????? Do they confirm they r right??? DREAMWORKS EMAILS U!! I HAVE QUESTIONS!! Please tell me if that's ok Lol 😹 i'll share and like a trillion times!!!
My favorite class is mythology. I have a friend who has a master's degree in mythology and he calls me when ever there is a new mythological creature that comes up in any culture which is very rare or he comes over to my house and teaches me on Dragon Mythology. I was home schooled
The other thing to add onto the possible titan wing theory of the skeleton is...23 already known a bewilderbeast has the ability to shake its eyes and hairs to control other dragons, but the funniest part about the skeleton is that it’s looooooong dead and yet it’s skeleton is essentially attracting old or near dead dragons already. The wind that passes through this extremely old dragon is carrying that same energy to control dragons through it despite no skin, scales, eyes, or even hairs. Maybe when it was alive the abilities it had were even stronger, like a subconscious sixth sense.
We didn’t go into the fact that different dragon genders have different sizes, so theoretically if male Bewilderbeasts were larger, we could say that Drago’s Bewilderbeast was a male and Valka’s was a female, therefore even with the massive age difference it could explain why they were approximately the same size. Hope this makes sense.
I agree, plus it is possible that Valka s bewilderdbeast in second movie could actualy be the egg that she took at the end of the race to the edge series
@@Aston_Edits Not sure about a "gender" in the title for english, but for example in Polish "king" was just a ruling monarch so we had a female king :D From wiki " Jadwiga was crowned "king" in Poland's capital, Kraków, on 16 October 1384." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jadwiga_of_Poland
You learn how long and how much of a spek every day is it’s so little but when you ignore time it goes by so fast that when your 30 or something your like when I was 6 I… I can’t explain in words it’s like you realise time and it doesn’t go by like when you flick pages in a picture it is impossible to explain in words
You forgot 1 detail in the show race to the edge season 6 episode 12 “the king of dragons part 1” fishlegs says that the huge dragon remains in oswalds notes are related to the king of dragons so if the bewildered beast is the king of dragons there is a mega high chance that the remains were a titan wing bewildered beast
If I remember correctly, the island with the skeleton is also a dragon sanctuary where all of the dragons were able to stay at safely and those were probably the ancient descendants of the ones that were part of the “titan wing’s” “pack”
When the Vanaheim Bewilderbeast was nearing the end of its life, it chose a small deserted island as its final resting place, where a large, lush island would eventually form over its fossilized remains. Followers of this past dragon and their descendants continued to migrate to this island once their time has come, forming an island-scale dragon cemetery. Future civilizations would call this island Vanaheim, and regard it as a highly sacred place.
If you pay attention to the race to the edge in the last episode you can see valka taking a bewilderbeast egg, also you see drago killing krogen because krogen faild to get a bewilderbeast so that means both are about the same age, and the reason in my opinion that dragos won was fear of death because when toothless beat dragos bewilderbeast he didn't kill it only broke a tusk, i think thats how it was supposed to be with valka's bewilderbeast but in fear of its life it killed valka's bewilderbeast before it could strike back. The chance that those bewilderbeasts are titanwings is very slim especially if you look ate the bewilderbeast remains on vanaheim, wich make up most of the island, hiccup also states the the remains on vanaheim are much bigger than the red death and both drago's and valka's bewilderbeast are just a little bigger than the red death.
I agree with everything you've said except the part of Drago's bewilder beast killing Valka's out of fear and also something about that's not how it's supposed to be for a dragon to become an alpha . I don't think in the entire franchise both series and movies it was ever specified whether to become an alpha, killing or not killing the previous Alpha is allowed but you definitely have to defeat it. Toothless doesn't kill other dragons we've seen that in the series and movies like that time it fought the whispering death or the triple strike.
@@quix3257 that’s not Valka’s Bewilderbeast. Valka said that she was taken there 20 years ago (21 years ago in the hidden world) at the home of the Bewilderbeast. Firstly, she implied that the Bewilderbeast was there when she was taken, so its atleast 20 - 40. Second, how could have Valka’s Mountain existed for 21 - 41 years without a Bewilderbeast? Because the ice from the Bewilderbeast (Both Valka and Drago’s) looks exactly the same as the ice used in Valka’s mountain and Eret’s hideout. Eret’s hideout was most likely also Valka’s Bewilderbeast, because he talked about another dragon rider with a Tidal-Class dragon, (The rider being Valka, the Tidal-Class dragon being her bewilderbeast) freezing his hideout.
Thanks for pointing this out. I had not noticed that the Bewilderbeast remains on Vanaheim were so much larger than Drago or Valka's Bewilderbeasts. I know I'm late but I'd like to point out that the Bewilderbeast of Vanaheim, once reaching Titan Wing status, gained the ability to manipulate dragons even after death, calling them to the island that would become Vanaheim when they neared the end of their own lifespan (but only the dragons in the human world, not the dragons in the dragon underworld it seems). Perhaps the Titan Wing Bewilderbeast, in addition to being able to manipulate other dragons through mind control, can do so after death to an extent? If that is the case, Hiccup is really lucky that Drago's Bewilderbeast didn't reach Titan Wing status and die before being challenged by Toothless, because then every dragon would serve Drago for all time.
Actually valka's bewilderbeast is 2 years old as well In the series “Race to the edge” at the very end when Hiccup saves a bewilderbeast egg Later, the wing maiden (allies with hiccup and dragon riders) soon places the egg where they would know a mysterious person would rescue eggs. That mysterious person is valka, seen from the masks and clothing. If valka took the egg then, it would of hatched in the time between “Race to the edge” and “How to train your dragons 2” which the time difference is 2 years (Also told in “Race to the edge”) However( yess theres more)I dissagree the fact that valka's bewilderbeast is 20 years old but, IF valka's bewilder beast was 20 years old, in “How to train your dragon 2” valka states that her bewilderbeast has been here since hiccup (20 years) if that was true then it suggests that she might of got another bewilderbeast and moved the other bewilder beast egg from (Race to the edge) somewhere else. Btw this took me a long time to tyoe coz im a slow typer...
@@IIKxrtII I dont think it is coz i would of been under water The egg valka stole was from a wilderbeast that creates its own nest me ice I mean i could og but i doubt it The colour of both wilder beast is different but maybe idk
And you've gotta think, the Bewilderbeast skeleton is ancient, due to the fact that is obviously fossilized. Became an entire island. And plant life had time to grow on it as well.
8:36 I can prove your statement, because it appears to me that the bewilderbeast on Vanahiem was much bigger than valka's, drago's, or even the bewilderbeast that saved hiccup in the race to the edge series Edit: it's not possible for valka's bewilderbeast to be a titan wing because it was around 20 years old (like you said) while bewilderbeasts can live up to 10,000 YEARS
If they live up to 10,000 years, and we assume the difference in size between Valka's and Drago's bewilderbeasts comes done to age, then they may grow to be that size when they are nearing the end of their life. This could be supported by comparing the sizes of Drago's Bewilderbeast in httyd 2 and httyd 3 to see if it grows during the time jump but I havent checked
Me: ehh, HTTYD isn't really my thing. I'll probably skip this one.... HFM: my video got demonitized, any help would be appreciated. Me: ......Hang on fam, I'm coming! Sounds like HTTYD just *became* my thing.
I think you two are misunderstanding my comment. I'm here to show support for tim IN SPITE of dreamworks. I love his videos and hate to see him suffer due to a bs takedown.
I love how this guy is just so... himself. He isn't afraid to do something that most people would find cringy. He himself is like a better version of MattPatt
Personally I think Leviathan classes are a measurement of size, the reason I think that is because aquatic creatures are able to become much larger than their land-going counterparts, due to reduced gravity(for lack of better way of putting it), and there's so much more space available for them to grow, so following this logic a class 10 being the size of a Titan makes sense, we also don't know where the scale ends, if it does end. On a side note I kind of want to see the Riders meet two types of dragon, Eastern(specifically the Kirin/Qirin/Chinese Unicorn/whatever you want to call it), and Serpentine(Like a giant sea snake like dragon, don't know if they have or not)
Kirin dragon and serpentine dragons are both lung dragons in folklore just kirins were older and reached divinity, or in httyd lore it could be that a kirin is a titanwing of a serpentine dragon growing their beard/whiskers and horns, maybe tie in the dragons pearl they carry in their claw
@@HovektheArtist Kirin don't have pearls or claws, they have hooves, and four legs,(and majestic untamed manes of hair), the lung are something else entirely, (though they are something I wouldn't mind seeing the Riders meeting), and by serpentine dragons I meant dragons from the deep ocean, like the leviathan (depending on depiction).
Class 1-10 leviathans are all Titan's by birth right according to the Wikia. I have to assume the transformation occurs as they reach maturity. In fact, it is even stated that leviathan class sizes is the (giant size) Sea Dragon term for Titan. Class 1 smaller, Class 10 the larger.
I admit I had been operating under the assumption that like most reptiles dragons grew throughout their lives, so titan wings were just old dragons that grew to large size, and then factoring in the fact that some would just be genetically fated to grow larger than others, like how some humans only get five feet tall, where as other can grow over seven feet tall
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Commenting to help this video. It's so weird and stupid that DreamWorks demonetized your video. You have such great content for nerdy fans across many fandoms, but I'll always think of you as the first person who started making HTTYD videos where we could finally come together and have fun discussing this awesome franchise! I mean, there were fans before, but I never felt like anyone on TH-cam really talked about it or had theories on it. So thanks for everything you do, Tim! THEORY: Maybe the real reason DreamWorks demonetized you is because your theories in the past have hit so close to home, as we've seen in the HTTYD 3 trailer (i.e. the white NightFury that you spoke of waaay before the trailer came out, and also Toothless being related to the Skrill)... I'm probably wrong, but hey! It's fun to think that DreamWorks is freaked out cause they think you might have figured them out haha!
Haha it would be, wouldn't it? I know that that's probably not the case, but it just was very cool and almost eery to me that only a couple/few weeks after Tim released his theory video on Night Furies and Skrills being related, the trailer of HTTYD 3 featured Toothless having the exact same abilities as a Skrill.... something sounds fishy to me.... (all in fun of course)
I think Dreamworks just took the white night fury idea because it was popular. I don't think they planned it all along. But was rather too lazy and decided to give people what they wanted. Because appearently they couldn't come up with something better. But that's my P.O.V.
I'm curious what all other dragons and new ones that could be be coming in some book series because he's after the ending they're making a new one and making something new which might be able to talk about give more references because I've watched and watched a lot of the show the sheep look exactly the same
I have a small theory. I always perceived Drago's Bewilderbeast as a bit bigger than Valka's, and I attributed it's bigger size to the stress and pressure of its environment it grew up in. The short released alongside the first movie made me believe that there are different ways and processes to becoming a Titanwing. So Drago's Bewilderbeast is not only likely to be younger than Valka's, but already a bit bigger at this young age. Perhaps its grey color scheme will gradually become darker and more striking. Was Drago's Bewilderbeast on its way to growing into a true Bewilderbeast Titanwing?!
That could be true because animals in different environments have different marks remember that dragos came from the water and was held under so its markings could because of its contant fights and beatings from drago and it always being underwater
WE MUST FUND LORD MISHKA’s PAMPERING. I’m sad your 100k version got demonetized. It creates more hype and keeps a passionate fandom bubbling with curiosity and anticipation for the next HTTYD film. Thank you for all you do, especially the Avatar and writing videos. I hit the bell 🛎 for you now so I won’t miss a thing. 🤗
when technoblade says something original, it's funny. when you rephrase it without anything like it was your own, then it will no longer be funny since you aren't technoblade or making something original.
Id say r Dragos bewilderbeast is probably a titan wing do to the fact that its fpr powerful a higher level and a different color than iether of the other two bewilderbeasts
I enjoyed this video the first time, and I enjoyed it this time as well. You're doing great Tim keep it up I'll be sharing your channel with my friends!
1 note, in the show Defenders of Berk. Fish legs says directly that the screaming death is a Titan wing even though it had just been born, so technically doesn't that mean some dragons are born into being titan wings?
Hey, I’m sure you won’t notice me, but I have been a fan ever since you were making theories on the second season of race to the edge when you had 40K subscribers. You really helped filled my days and helped me become more immersed in the HTTYD universe. You make amazing content and I hope you are doing well.
I have watched your Chanel since I was born and yes I would love to support you and all of your Chanel and you are the one who got me into this stuff :)
3:03 hey, I can help explain this: At the end of the Netflix series (rtte), hiccup finds the bewilderbeast egg - he describes that Atali and the 'wingmadiens' knew someone who knew someone who had a safe place to keep it: I think they're talking about Valka. Also, in the second movie, Valka introduces hiccup to the Bewilderbeast - 'he likes ya' she says - this proves that the Alfa remembers hiccup. (here is a link to a video which can explain this: th-cam.com/video/BPS_4U_Kk9k/w-d-xo.html ) I am assuming that the one under berserker island would be Drago's because villains know villains who know villains - eventually someone would be able to tame it - maybe they found a way to sedate it, like Grimmel does with his Deathgrippers?? Or Drago was able to scare it like he does to Hookfang in the second movie. Also, I'm sure that Trader Johann, being evil, would've known some other dragon hunters that could've helped capture it. Just a quick note as well... There is an obvious difference between Drago and Valka's Bewilderbeasts. But I don't mean size - I mean age. If you look at the actual tusks that these dragons have, the one that comes from the water obviously older, more mature, and barely needed Drago's assistance during battle. I think that this dragon had reached it's titan wing stage, which makes sense since Fishlegs called it a class 10, and it actually won the battle pretty quickly. 9:05 I agree, 100% agree.. but, when they went to Vanaheim, they saw the structure of the supposed Alfa. This could help them understand the size - they had never seen such a massive living dragon, up until the second movie...
You are wrong valkas bewilderbeast is also 1-2 years old on the final episode of race to the Edge you see the egg that the got from the one in the cave was taken by valka yes dragos might be younger valkas is still young
Hey Tim, cool video as always I love these ones about titanwings and bewilderbeasts or generally large dragons the most.😄 But now: I have two theorie-ideas that I think would be awesome for you to discuss in future videos: 1. How did the word leviathan end up in the vikings world. I mean the vikings knew of the british people and their religion cuz of their raids to england (youll notice im referring to the series Vikings that you once covered in the on writing video about the death of protagonists😂) And I think it would just be very interesting to see your thoughts about it. 2. How did the Krayfin end up dying at the exact same place where that huge, possibly, titan wing Bewilderbeast died? Do you think the Krayfin was also under his command and that it also returned there like these other dragons who have funreals there like you explained it in an older video, do you think it was a battle or what could it possibly be? P.S.: Im not saying that the things in School of Dragons are true and that there is a krayfin under vanaheim in the series but it would just be funny to think about it So yeah that were the two ideas stay nerdy KAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWW
The term leviathan is used in the bible but its originally a story from germanic seafarers, the vikings had stories of the great sea dragon that sank ships when it raised from the ocean and of viking landing on a vanishing island only to find out that it was the leviathan floating on the surface, and they also tell of it having 2 volcano like blowholes that shot water to the heavens, the leviathan, midgardsolom and ouroboros were the three great calamities of norse culture, one the danger of the deep the leviathan, one the bane of the gods midgardsolom, and one the bane of time ouroboros
one thing we do not take up is, if the titan wing chance and characteristics even the same for all species? I mean we hear in the rise of berk that the screaming death titan wing is very rare("happens every hundred years or so" quote), meaning they have recordings about other times it happens also there is the monstrous nightmare titan wing that is not that big and no new trait but it had an inverted coloration of hookfang. my thought is that it could have dormant characteristics from a more ancient time. Or could be that the Titan wing could be not only an example of the characteristics of evolution that certain traits like the main trait of a certain species get changed by either getting inverted, removed, or amplified or a new one gets implemented( hence the screaming deaths attraction to light. and lastly, the size of these titan wings is just a phenomenon of Island gigantism.
11:08 I think the Bewilderbeast is way younger than 20 years old Warning spoilers The Bewilderbeast egg that hiccup saved In race to the edge was Valkas Bewilderbeast because Valka she said that I think he likes you and How to train your Dragon race to the edge was not long after How to train your Dragon 2
Yes it's possible that the egg is valka's bewilderbeast. but look at it this way it would grow extremely fast for the size it is, if it is such a young dragon. We know it the end if season 6 of race to the edge, Valka gain the egg. At the first movie hiccup is 15 and second movie at the beginning it's five years later meaning hiccup is 20 years old. Which means hiccup is between 15 and 20 years of age when Valka and Drago's gain their bewilderbeast. Valka get hers first then Drago's. Using this you can disprove that Valka's bewilderbeast is as old as this TH-camr thinks he or she is. Gender comment video directly on the comments. I apologise for this long comment.
The second movie happened after race to the edge, not before. Cause season 6 Valka gets the egg. Second movie she has a bewilderbeast. Bottom of your comment. dude, make a good point then just goes away.
James Williams yeah because if you look at the bewilder in race to the edge and look at the one in httyd 2 the length. Between the eyes and mouth is larger than the one in race to the edge and I’m pretty sure drago took the egg
@@mothzilla8582 In race to dragons edge at the end if season 6 we see someone pick up the egg off a rock. Later in httyd 2 we find the the figure who picked up the egg off the rock and Valka hiccups mother are wearing the same armor. Plus atalli leader of the wing maidens put the egg on the rock. Plus if in the ice caves Below berserker island we see that the bewilderbeast is a bright white like Valka's bewilderbeast not Drago's. Plus I'm pretty sure when hiccup said that" attali knew someone who knew someone who had a safe place to keep it". I'm pretty sure it was Valka, as we see seconds after he says the line of dialogue I said above. Again see a figure pick up the egg and in httyd 2 we see same armor on Valka as we do on the figure at the end if season 6 if race to dragons edge. And referring to your size comparison the bewilderbeast in rtde is older than the Valka's bewilderbeast in httyd 2. It's just younger sister not as big.
Anthropology for me! It's such a broad categorization that I'm able to pursue multiple passions at the same time (culture, biology, language, and artifacts). I've just rewatched it and have already shared this with like 3 people, hope it helps!
Drago's bewildabeast had black and red markings while the other two seen are white and red. Also I believe that Drago's bewildabeast was able to kill valkas because of a higher class.
I think any dragon that is alpha can somewhat control other dragons, but bewilderbeasts have some sort of stronger mind that can fully control dragons if alpha. I imagine a Titan wing Bewilderbeast can control dragons even if it's not alpha, but if it is then it can control humans too and possibly other bewilderbeasts. I like the theory that Vanahiem attracts sick or older dragons because they have weaker minds, and the immense power from the bewilderbeast Titan can attract dragons even when long dead and fossilised. Maybe Titan wing Bewilderbeasts can even be called higher beings.
But enough about shipping there's so many new things that we still haven't learned and with the dragon series moving on under the Skies on Netflix we might get some new things the check that out hate more content means more money and more money needs more content it just works in the simulation just keeps on going forever
11:10 Actually Drago’s dragon is older because if you’ve seen the “race to the edge” series you’ll see the bewilderbeast Drago has and you can see a bewilderbeast egg which is given to Valka meaning that Valka’s bewilderbeast has to be younger.
When you said that Valka's Bewilderbeast was 20 years old. I remembered that after Hiccup got the Bewilderbeast egg at the end of "Race to the Edge". Hiccups friends, the wingmaidens, gave the egg to Valka. So I think that both Drago and Valka's Bewilderbeast's were the same age when they were fighting.
I feel like Dragos beast is the mother of Valka's in the last episode of race to the edge hiccup saved an king of dragons egg and gave it to the wing maidens then they past it on to valka, I'm sure Drago found the mother beast and chained her up while valka was raising the egg
The beast that drago had was raised by himself at birth. And Valkas bewilderbeast was already alive when she was taken from hiccup and stoick by cloud jumper, her dragon
@@slayer8630 Then where's the second beast that she raised? because she was given a king of dragons egg in race to the edge while hiccup was 20. I think you're right though she did say "cloud jumper must've thought i belonged here" in the second movie
I assumed it was a male/female dimorphism, or its just because they are from different areas like a jaguar from the rain basin has more uniform spots whereas one that spend more time near a mountain or in the tops of trees would have more irregular patterns and theres a higher chance of black jaguars because of the canopy blocking light making a black coat more useful, so maybe valkas is darker as its been in a cave so long whereas dragos is whiter since its from an arctic area and underwater more often to blend as an iceberg or something
I feel Bewilderbeasts are capable of achieving Titan Wing status, but we have yet to see one. Titan Wing doesn't just mean bigger- it's an actual growth stage with physical and behavioral differences from the other stages. They're unique from other members of their species. Since all Bewilderbeasts seen thus far are physically similar, behaviorally similar (save for Drago's Bewilderbeast, but that was due to unnatural reasons) and size-wise the same, we can assume these are not Titan Wings, since Titan Wings are extraordinarily rare.
Ayyy WOF was great but you can’t deny that the dragons of the HTTYD were more creative and would most likely win a war between the two worlds in a crossover
Valkas one is only a couple years old, in the last episode of the tv series, hiccup gives the egg to the wing maidens who leave it on a stone pillar for Valka to pick up. It’s 2-3 years old not 20.
I think that valka’s bewilderbeast is also 2 years old because at the end of that episode valka takes the bewilderbeast egg and raises it. Does that mean that they could get so much bigger then they are already?
Hello tim! I have a question. A bunch of my friends and I have started animating a fan series of HTTYD called Return To The Edge. I have released some teasers and stuff about it on my channel. I was thinking of becoming a patreon to contact you on this matter but before I do that, ill try here. Return to the edge is a fan made series by myself and a few others, mainly another HTTYD youtuber named Strongquartz. He has 10k and I have 24k we are currently hiring volunteer voice actors for characters. I've been wondering if you would like to get involved in this! I believe it would be a great way to keep the spark of popularity of HTTYD growing during this dull wait between now and the third movie. If you would like to participate, or just simply know more about our animated series, hit me up with a reply! I will be happy to answer any questions you have. And the best part is, it'll be copyright free. Thank you for your time, if you actually end up reading this comment. Even if you don't see it here, you'll be hearing from me soon as I will soon be becoming one of your patreons. Have a good day! -Magicov
Hey Magicov! I'm afraid I just don't have the time to commit to more projects unfortunately. Otherwise, I would have loved to have been involved. When you've got some of it done, flick me an email or tweet and I'll boost it to get you some more viewers. ~ Tim
I just leaving the another game out to other games that were published from the creators that might give in more details to see the criteria length of withstand arises what genetically happens the dragons that become Titans and like the screaming death could possibly fit a place in that?
Valka's bewilderbeast may not be 20 and more around the age of Drago's. At the end of the Netflix series hiccup saves a bewilderbeast egg and valka later takes it meaning between the time when hiccup saved the egg and the events of the second film. Which means that the skeleton of the bewilderbeast may have just been a older bewilderbeast since the other two were the same age
Heres a problem, most titanwings grow about 30-100% larger than they're normal counterparts while the dragon seen on vanaheim was maybe 10 times the size or more (yes I know it doesn't seem that way but remember that it was taking up like half the island space, and islands aren't small and also, look at the humans walking in the mouth of the vanaheim dragon then think about the size of a human relative to a bewilderbeast) Also, the dragon from vanaheim looked more stony (that could just be an animation error, not thinking to make it look more like bones, or the bones rotted/always were that way) and it looked different in general. It had sharper more distinct teeth and the head itself looked a lot more rounded, not flat. I think the fact that it looked so much different and the size difference (one bewilderbeast could fit in the vanaheim bewilderbeast's mouth) is too much to consider it a titanwing.
i think this was a great vid about this matter because i had this thought on why did drago's beast win even though valka's was clearly more experienced in battling. This led me to think crazy for a second and i even considered drago's to even be a titan because it looked different!! but that thought died down after a hour because they were the same size and it could be a different colour due to either the gender, grey-green + red=male oreo colouring=female, or even the fact of where it was laid, maybe drago's dragon was like this because of water pollution.
You got Valkas bewilderbeasts age rong because at the end of the Netflix series hiccup found an egg which got wing Madeins to give it to valka so the bewilderbeast is around 5 to 15
Noah Widgren the thing is, they contradict themselves. The movie states the bewilderbeast has been there Since cloud jumper took valka. What I believe is that the egg that was given to valka in edge is actually a fourth dragon that hasn’t hatched yet. That would be interesting
Noah widgren So if that's the case, then a full grown one would, in theory, be the size of the Vanaheim bewilderbeast, or probably bigger, we can't know for sure
So, those wondering about Race to the Edge bewilderbeast egg that Valka took in the ending: the egg is explained/found in School of dragons game. Valka kept it safe and hidden, revealing it when the Night lights are adults. Its in the night lights growing up quests. So Valka does tech have 2 bewilderbeasts. An adult over 20 (which is reguarded as MALE) and the egg which then hatches. So if you think of it that way there are 4 Bewilderbeasts. Dragos; Valkas Adult and Egg; and the female under Beserker island
My theory: Valka's bewilderbeast IS the egg, and valka had already met one; a regular adult. Valka then found the egg and it grew to be the bewilderbeast in the film (a titan wing). Drago's is another titan wing but stronger. The one in vanaheim was a titan wing, but older and bigger. Bewilderbeasts are very rare, so maybe the one in vanaheim is a parent of the one in Berserker island. So, Drago's bewilderbeast is a titan wing but a bit stronger. We see that Drago's bewilderbeast and VANAHEIM'S have CURVED tusks, while Valka's doesn't. So, Valka's bewilderbeast is the egg, Drago's is unknown where it came from, the one in Berserker island is unknown if it's still alive, and vanaheim's is an old titan wing who was once the biggest king of dragons known to be alive.
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My favorite class is mythology. I have a friend who has a master's degree in mythology and he calls me when ever there is a new mythological creature that comes up in any culture which is very rare or he comes over to my house and teaches me on Dragon Mythology. I was home schooled
The other thing to add onto the possible titan wing theory of the skeleton is...23 already known a bewilderbeast has the ability to shake its eyes and hairs to control other dragons, but the funniest part about the skeleton is that it’s looooooong dead and yet it’s skeleton is essentially attracting old or near dead dragons already. The wind that passes through this extremely old dragon is carrying that same energy to control dragons through it despite no skin, scales, eyes, or even hairs.
Maybe when it was alive the abilities it had were even stronger, like a subconscious sixth sense.
well, titanwings would be more stronger than the normal ones so that might actually be right
mans smarter then viggo holy shit
Yea
Pheromones? That could be an explanation
I mean, the skeleton looks like good shelter as is let alone as a dragon.
We didn’t go into the fact that different dragon genders have different sizes, so theoretically if male Bewilderbeasts were larger, we could say that Drago’s Bewilderbeast was a male and Valka’s was a female, therefore even with the massive age difference it could explain why they were approximately the same size.
Hope this makes sense.
I agree, plus it is possible that Valka s bewilderdbeast in second movie could actualy be the egg that she took at the end of the race to the edge series
Valka refers to hers as a he and a him.
@@RupertJMrak No, she saw it from the beginning. When she abandoned family dragon was there
Wrong because balls said that her bewilder beast is a male, king of dragons
@@Aston_Edits Not sure about a "gender" in the title for english, but for example in Polish "king" was just a ruling monarch so we had a female king :D From wiki
"
Jadwiga was crowned "king" in Poland's capital, Kraków, on 16 October 1384."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jadwiga_of_Poland
Imagine a titan wing terrible terror it's just a terrible terror the size of toothless
But how scary would that be
That would be hella strong
L.o.l
OH NO
just no
I never knew the red death was a titan wing until now. I guess you learn new things everyday
Well it makes sense
@@xdsmile5359 yeah but still
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@@NicolaWyllie agree
You learn how long and how much of a spek every day is it’s so little but when you ignore time it goes by so fast that when your 30 or something your like when I was 6 I… I can’t explain in words it’s like you realise time and it doesn’t go by like when you flick pages in a picture it is impossible to explain in words
People who know the franchise from the books: ah yes, seadragonus giganticus maximus
Ah yes good times
Do u know what Pistrix is? I found one...
I read most of the books but I read it a long time ago and do you expect 8-year-old me to even know how to pronounce that word lol
Green death was awesome
Old man toothless
You forgot 1 detail in the show race to the edge season 6 episode 12 “the king of dragons part 1” fishlegs says that the huge dragon remains in oswalds notes are related to the king of dragons so if the bewildered beast is the king of dragons there is a mega high chance that the remains were a titan wing bewildered beast
I was going to like ur comment but its at 69 I don't wanna ruin it
and we have out answer
If I remember correctly, the island with the skeleton is also a dragon sanctuary where all of the dragons were able to stay at safely and those were probably the ancient descendants of the ones that were part of the “titan wing’s” “pack”
When the Vanaheim Bewilderbeast was nearing the end of its life, it chose a small deserted island as its final resting place, where a large, lush island would eventually form over its fossilized remains. Followers of this past dragon and their descendants continued to migrate to this island once their time has come, forming an island-scale dragon cemetery. Future civilizations would call this island Vanaheim, and regard it as a highly sacred place.
Thanks for copying the famdom wiki
😂
The only problem is the island was discovered before the 2nd moive
The Bewilderbeast technically does live in herds/flocks, as it usually keeps a lot of dragons with it in its home.
If you pay attention to the race to the edge in the last episode you can see valka taking a bewilderbeast egg, also you see drago killing krogen because krogen faild to get a bewilderbeast so that means both are about the same age, and the reason in my opinion that dragos won was fear of death because when toothless beat dragos bewilderbeast he didn't kill it only broke a tusk, i think thats how it was supposed to be with valka's bewilderbeast but in fear of its life it killed valka's bewilderbeast before it could strike back. The chance that those bewilderbeasts are titanwings is very slim especially if you look ate the bewilderbeast remains on vanaheim, wich make up most of the island, hiccup also states the the remains on vanaheim are much bigger than the red death and both drago's and valka's bewilderbeast are just a little bigger than the red death.
I agree with everything you've said except the part of Drago's bewilder beast killing Valka's out of fear and also something about that's not how it's supposed to be for a dragon to become an alpha . I don't think in the entire franchise both series and movies it was ever specified whether to become an alpha, killing or not killing the previous Alpha is allowed but you definitely have to defeat it. Toothless doesn't kill other dragons we've seen that in the series and movies like that time it fought the whispering death or the triple strike.
no, he literally says in the video that this is incorrect, watch the whole video again, pause if you have to.
Dragon got his 3 years later cause httyd 2 plays 4 years after race to the edge
@@venom-b3v "Toothless doesn't kill other dragons"
The Red Death would like to have a word with you.
The egg isn't valkas bewilderbeast
imagine if the titan wing version of terrible terror was just the size of a bewilderbeast lol
just something kinda funny to think about
I’m the 100th like
@@castherobloxmaster8219 ok?
Anyone wanna talk about how when drago shouted ‘bring me my maps’ he was shouting at mildew from the old dragons defenders of berk series
Wait mildew is still alive!?
@@xdsmile5359 he never died, after dragons riders/defenders of berk ended we never saw him again
I want to talk with someone that likes httyd
How do we know that
@@jango3470 check that moment and zoom in on who he was shouting at
Ooooh so drago's bewilderbeast is the egg that was on the series of httyd king of dragons pt 2
Drago most likely snuck into the sanctuary and stole the egg.
Pretty sure there was even a scene were hiccups mother got the egg and drago went after another
@@quix3257 that’s not Valka’s Bewilderbeast. Valka said that she was taken there 20 years ago (21 years ago in the hidden world) at the home of the Bewilderbeast.
Firstly, she implied that the Bewilderbeast was there when she was taken, so its atleast 20 - 40.
Second, how could have Valka’s Mountain existed for 21 - 41 years without a Bewilderbeast? Because the ice from the Bewilderbeast (Both Valka and Drago’s) looks exactly the same as the ice used in Valka’s mountain and Eret’s hideout. Eret’s hideout was most likely also Valka’s Bewilderbeast, because he talked about another dragon rider with a Tidal-Class dragon, (The rider being Valka, the Tidal-Class dragon being her bewilderbeast) freezing his hideout.
No actually in the end of Dragons race to the edge Valka comes and takes the egg after the Wingmaidens put the egg on their island!
@@freddiewadman4118 I think that Valka’s Bewilderbeast was always there. There are alot of speculation.
Thanks for pointing this out. I had not noticed that the Bewilderbeast remains on Vanaheim were so much larger than Drago or Valka's Bewilderbeasts. I know I'm late but I'd like to point out that the Bewilderbeast of Vanaheim, once reaching Titan Wing status, gained the ability to manipulate dragons even after death, calling them to the island that would become Vanaheim when they neared the end of their own lifespan (but only the dragons in the human world, not the dragons in the dragon underworld it seems). Perhaps the Titan Wing Bewilderbeast, in addition to being able to manipulate other dragons through mind control, can do so after death to an extent? If that is the case, Hiccup is really lucky that Drago's Bewilderbeast didn't reach Titan Wing status and die before being challenged by Toothless, because then every dragon would serve Drago for all time.
You have a point but dragos bewilderbeast didnt die we see it in the hidden world in the movie
@@erolhyso1 I never said Drago's Bewilderbeast died. I said they were lucky he didn't reach Titan Wing status and then die before facing Toothless
@@jacoblansman8147 oh i mistook that lol sorry
I've already watched it and am watching it again because it's so good
FIRST INTERACTION WITH A TH-camR
Me too
Me too
ninja bob I’m watching the race to the edge
i watched race to the Edge 5-6 times lmao
Actually valka's bewilderbeast is 2 years old as well
In the series “Race to the edge” at the very end when Hiccup saves a bewilderbeast egg
Later, the wing maiden (allies with hiccup and dragon riders) soon places the egg where they would know a mysterious person would rescue eggs.
That mysterious person is valka, seen from the masks and clothing.
If valka took the egg then, it would of hatched in the time between “Race to the edge” and “How to train your dragons 2” which the time difference is 2 years (Also told in “Race to the edge”)
However( yess theres more)I dissagree the fact that valka's bewilderbeast is 20 years old but, IF valka's bewilder beast was 20 years old, in “How to train your dragon 2” valka states that her bewilderbeast has been here since hiccup (20 years) if that was true then it suggests that she might of got another bewilderbeast and moved the other bewilder beast egg from (Race to the edge) somewhere else.
Btw this took me a long time to tyoe coz im a slow typer...
Acorn bub - the egg she stole could be drago’s bewildbeast 🤷♂️
He could’ve came across the egg stole it then raised it
@@IIKxrtII
I dont think it is coz i would of been under water
The egg valka stole was from a wilderbeast that creates its own nest me ice
I mean i could og but i doubt it
The colour of both wilder beast is different but maybe idk
Acorn bub hey what season is this from. Because there is only 2 seasons on Netflix
@@alielrefaye2123 u should be able to find all seasons on netflix
but the part where she steals the egg is season 6 last episode
I don't normally like to comment but it's a metric that can help a video. So here I am, hope it helps.
Keep up the good work!
And you've gotta think, the Bewilderbeast skeleton is ancient, due to the fact that is obviously fossilized. Became an entire island. And plant life had time to grow on it as well.
8:36 I can prove your statement, because it appears to me that the bewilderbeast on Vanahiem was much bigger than valka's, drago's, or even the bewilderbeast that saved hiccup in the race to the edge series
Edit: it's not possible for valka's bewilderbeast to be a titan wing because it was around 20 years old (like you said) while bewilderbeasts can live up to 10,000 YEARS
Yeah
That one died to old age that's y is so large
I thought she received the bewilderbeast egg from the wing maidens in the last episode of rtte
If they live up to 10,000 years, and we assume the difference in size between Valka's and Drago's bewilderbeasts comes done to age, then they may grow to be that size when they are nearing the end of their life.
This could be supported by comparing the sizes of Drago's Bewilderbeast in httyd 2 and httyd 3 to see if it grows during the time jump but I havent checked
Valka's Brwilderbeast was NOT the egg from race to the edge
" WOW that's a 100kg chicken!!"😂😂
Ehhh theres a 200kg one down the road no big deal
@@HovektheArtist "200kg vs 100kg chicken! Who shall win?
@@cyanidetouch1096 new BuzzFeed video😂
@@awulfy9052 lol
Hahaha
1:38
T: I wonder if spiro is a titan wing
S: I got a titan sized diiiii.......
*Spyro you uncultured swine.
What did u edit????
Helina Westell
no you don’t
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Diiiiiiiiiiiiiiick?
Me: ehh, HTTYD isn't really my thing. I'll probably skip this one....
HFM: my video got demonitized, any help would be appreciated.
Me: ......Hang on fam, I'm coming! Sounds like HTTYD just *became* my thing.
Oliver Clarkson found the dreamworks shill
I think you two are misunderstanding my comment. I'm here to show support for tim IN SPITE of dreamworks.
I love his videos and hate to see him suffer due to a bs takedown.
I was calling Oliver the dreamworks shill, not you.
Same... I skipped the first upload, but if it got unfairly knocked down, I'm here for the channel, even if I prefer the Airbender and LotR videos...
Sasha Slee A video being demonetized means that advertisements can’t be placed on it. Essentially, you can’t get any money out of it.
I love how this guy is just so... himself. He isn't afraid to do something that most people would find cringy. He himself is like a better version of MattPatt
Why better?
i mean it doesnt have to be better, but another version of matpat too
Imagine if screaming death wont stop eating lands and grows larger than the titan wing
11:43 I love me some physics even tho I’m still studying classical mechanics and I’m more interested in quantum physics but I still love it
Personally I think Leviathan classes are a measurement of size, the reason I think that is because aquatic creatures are able to become much larger than their land-going counterparts, due to reduced gravity(for lack of better way of putting it), and there's so much more space available for them to grow, so following this logic a class 10 being the size of a Titan makes sense, we also don't know where the scale ends, if it does end. On a side note I kind of want to see the Riders meet two types of dragon, Eastern(specifically the Kirin/Qirin/Chinese Unicorn/whatever you want to call it), and Serpentine(Like a giant sea snake like dragon, don't know if they have or not)
Kirin dragon and serpentine dragons are both lung dragons in folklore just kirins were older and reached divinity, or in httyd lore it could be that a kirin is a titanwing of a serpentine dragon growing their beard/whiskers and horns, maybe tie in the dragons pearl they carry in their claw
@@HovektheArtist Kirin don't have pearls or claws, they have hooves, and four legs,(and majestic untamed manes of hair), the lung are something else entirely, (though they are something I wouldn't mind seeing the Riders meeting), and by serpentine dragons I meant dragons from the deep ocean, like the leviathan (depending on depiction).
I want a class 20 ;)
Class 1-10 leviathans are all Titan's by birth right according to the Wikia. I have to assume the transformation occurs as they reach maturity.
In fact, it is even stated that leviathan class sizes is the (giant size) Sea Dragon term for Titan. Class 1 smaller, Class 10 the larger.
“If it does end”
The scale has to end somewhere, you can’t exactly have a dragon the size of a planet or star roaming around the universe… can you?
I admit I had been operating under the assumption that like most reptiles dragons grew throughout their lives, so titan wings were just old dragons that grew to large size, and then factoring in the fact that some would just be genetically fated to grow larger than others, like how some humans only get five feet tall, where as other can grow over seven feet tall
Maybe there's a dragon that looks like a island called the island backed bewilderbeast
you know what man this is the best channel that i know that doesnt play games and shares knowledge
Just bought a shirt in solidarity! Hope whatever measly percentage of the sales you get helps re-coup you. All the best!
I hope you like the shirt! Though, I'm happy to say your money won't be going to me. The money from my shirts go to charity - stopping slavery and the World Wildlife Fund.
~ Tim
Commenting to help this video. It's so weird and stupid that DreamWorks demonetized your video. You have such great content for nerdy fans across many fandoms, but I'll always think of you as the first person who started making HTTYD videos where we could finally come together and have fun discussing this awesome franchise! I mean, there were fans before, but I never felt like anyone on TH-cam really talked about it or had theories on it. So thanks for everything you do, Tim!
THEORY: Maybe the real reason DreamWorks demonetized you is because your theories in the past have hit so close to home, as we've seen in the HTTYD 3 trailer (i.e. the white NightFury that you spoke of waaay before the trailer came out, and also Toothless being related to the Skrill)... I'm probably wrong, but hey! It's fun to think that DreamWorks is freaked out cause they think you might have figured them out haha!
Agreed
That would be funny. Just a bunch of businessmen freaking out about a video.
Haha it would be, wouldn't it? I know that that's probably not the case, but it just was very cool and almost eery to me that only a couple/few weeks after Tim released his theory video on Night Furies and Skrills being related, the trailer of HTTYD 3 featured Toothless having the exact same abilities as a Skrill.... something sounds fishy to me.... (all in fun of course)
Thanks haha xD .... and actually, it's Percy. I love Leo too, but Percy is my favorite
I think Dreamworks just took the white night fury idea because it was popular. I don't think they planned it all along. But was rather too lazy and decided to give people what they wanted. Because appearently they couldn't come up with something better. But that's my P.O.V.
3:11 "Great point, you creepily perpetually smiling skeleton" XD
I'm curious what all other dragons and new ones that could be be coming in some book series because he's after the ending they're making a new one and making something new which might be able to talk about give more references because I've watched and watched a lot of the show the sheep look exactly the same
I knew that vanihiem was a dragon skeleton... kinda reminds me of the boiling isles
I have a small theory. I always perceived Drago's Bewilderbeast as a bit bigger than Valka's, and I attributed it's bigger size to the stress and pressure of its environment it grew up in. The short released alongside the first movie made me believe that there are different ways and processes to becoming a Titanwing. So Drago's Bewilderbeast is not only likely to be younger than Valka's, but already a bit bigger at this young age. Perhaps its grey color scheme will gradually become darker and more striking.
Was Drago's Bewilderbeast on its way to growing into a true Bewilderbeast Titanwing?!
That could be true because animals in different environments have different marks remember that dragos came from the water and was held under so its markings could because of its contant fights and beatings from drago and it always being underwater
All hail lord MISHKA may he forever more be beautiful and divine
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ALL HAIL MISHKA!!! KAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW!
WE MUST FUND LORD MISHKA’s PAMPERING.
I’m sad your 100k version got demonetized. It creates more hype and keeps a passionate fandom bubbling with curiosity and anticipation for the next HTTYD film.
Thank you for all you do, especially the Avatar and writing videos. I hit the bell 🛎 for you now so I won’t miss a thing. 🤗
Imagine if the bewilderbeast aren't titan wings and we could see one.
Drago was actually using an advance technique called
*LYING*
when technoblade says something original, it's funny. when you rephrase it without anything like it was your own, then it will no longer be funny since you aren't technoblade or making something original.
Id say r
Dragos bewilderbeast is probably a titan wing do to the fact that its fpr powerful a higher level and a different color than iether of the other two bewilderbeasts
Titans are bigger than Broad Wing, assuming both were the same size both are either class 10 or not class 5-6.
It also had a different tusk
Ya
Maybe class 10 dragons don't have titan wing levels cause they are the highest level? I thin the she'll fire is a lvl 9 tho.
But toothless is still stronger he made drago's bewilderbeast go
Screw DreamWorks for taking this video down
@Mr .E he's right,that's why they took it down🤔
I enjoyed this video the first time, and I enjoyed it this time as well. You're doing great Tim keep it up I'll be sharing your channel with my friends!
1 note, in the show Defenders of Berk. Fish legs says directly that the screaming death is a Titan wing even though it had just been born, so technically doesn't that mean some dragons are born into being titan wings?
Hey, I’m sure you won’t notice me, but I have been a fan ever since you were making theories on the second season of race to the edge when you had 40K subscribers. You really helped filled my days and helped me become more immersed in the HTTYD universe. You make amazing content and I hope you are doing well.
Next video. Is lord mishka a titan wing?
Of course
Hi there, I'm a silent person usually, but I want this comment to help! I hope you have a great day and thank you for creating awesome theories.
Thank you for commenting! It all helps.
~ Tim
Dude you make awesome videos. Keep going man. AND EVERYBODY ELSE PLEASE HELP HIM OUT ^_^
Thank you!
~ Tim
You're welcome. It's always amazing watching your videos and the ideas you give out
I have watched your Chanel since I was born and yes I would love to support you and all of your Chanel and you are the one who got me into this stuff :)
Him: *explaining*
Flowey: *Casually staring onto you're soul*
3:03 hey, I can help explain this:
At the end of the Netflix series (rtte), hiccup finds the bewilderbeast egg - he describes that Atali and the 'wingmadiens' knew someone who knew someone who had a safe place to keep it: I think they're talking about Valka. Also, in the second movie, Valka introduces hiccup to the Bewilderbeast - 'he likes ya' she says - this proves that the Alfa remembers hiccup.
(here is a link to a video which can explain this: th-cam.com/video/BPS_4U_Kk9k/w-d-xo.html )
I am assuming that the one under berserker island would be Drago's because villains know villains who know villains - eventually someone would be able to tame it - maybe they found a way to sedate it, like Grimmel does with his Deathgrippers?? Or Drago was able to scare it like he does to Hookfang in the second movie.
Also, I'm sure that Trader Johann, being evil, would've known some other dragon hunters that could've helped capture it.
Just a quick note as well...
There is an obvious difference between Drago and Valka's Bewilderbeasts. But I don't mean size - I mean age.
If you look at the actual tusks that these dragons have, the one that comes from the water obviously older, more mature, and barely needed Drago's assistance during battle. I think that this dragon had reached it's titan wing stage, which makes sense since Fishlegs called it a class 10, and it actually won the battle pretty quickly.
9:05 I agree, 100% agree.. but, when they went to Vanaheim, they saw the structure of the supposed Alfa. This could help them understand the size - they had never seen such a massive living dragon, up until the second movie...
You are wrong valkas bewilderbeast is also 1-2 years old on the final episode of race to the Edge you see the egg that the got from the one in the cave was taken by valka yes dragos might be younger valkas is still young
Hey Tim, cool video as always I love these ones about titanwings and bewilderbeasts or generally large dragons the most.😄
But now: I have two theorie-ideas that I think would be awesome for you to discuss in future videos:
1. How did the word leviathan end up in the vikings world. I mean the vikings knew of the british people and their religion cuz of their raids to england (youll notice im referring to the series Vikings that you once covered in the on writing video about the death of protagonists😂) And I think it would just be very interesting to see your thoughts about it.
2. How did the Krayfin end up dying at the exact same place where that huge, possibly, titan wing Bewilderbeast died? Do you think the Krayfin was also under his command and that it also returned there like these other dragons who have funreals there like you explained it in an older video, do you think it was a battle or what could it possibly be?
P.S.: Im not saying that the things in School of Dragons are true and that there is a krayfin under vanaheim in the series but it would just be funny to think about it
So yeah that were the two ideas stay nerdy
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The term leviathan is used in the bible but its originally a story from germanic seafarers, the vikings had stories of the great sea dragon that sank ships when it raised from the ocean and of viking landing on a vanishing island only to find out that it was the leviathan floating on the surface, and they also tell of it having 2 volcano like blowholes that shot water to the heavens, the leviathan, midgardsolom and ouroboros were the three great calamities of norse culture, one the danger of the deep the leviathan, one the bane of the gods midgardsolom, and one the bane of time ouroboros
one thing we do not take up is, if the titan wing chance and characteristics even the same for all species? I mean we hear in the rise of berk that the screaming death titan wing is very rare("happens every hundred years or so" quote), meaning they have recordings about other times it happens also there is the monstrous nightmare titan wing that is not that big and no new trait but it had an inverted coloration of hookfang. my thought is that it could have dormant characteristics from a more ancient time.
Or could be that the Titan wing could be not only an example of the characteristics of evolution that certain traits like the main trait of a certain species get changed by either getting inverted, removed, or amplified or a new one gets implemented( hence the screaming deaths attraction to light. and lastly, the size of these titan wings is just a phenomenon of Island gigantism.
"bewilderbeast is the most powerful kind of dragon"
*Laughs in screaming death and night fury*
Anyone else notice the camp half blood necklace, no, just me.
i noticed
I noticed the second time I watched it
Yooooo thanks for showing me
11:08 I think the Bewilderbeast is way younger than 20 years old
Warning spoilers
The Bewilderbeast egg that hiccup saved In race to the edge was Valkas Bewilderbeast because Valka she said that I think he likes you and How to train your Dragon race to the edge was not long after How to train your Dragon 2
Thats what i was thinking i so glad u said this
Yes it's possible that the egg is valka's bewilderbeast. but look at it this way it would grow extremely fast for the size it is, if it is such a young dragon. We know it the end if season 6 of race to the edge, Valka gain the egg. At the first movie hiccup is 15 and second movie at the beginning it's five years later meaning hiccup is 20 years old. Which means hiccup is between 15 and 20 years of age when Valka and Drago's gain their bewilderbeast. Valka get hers first then Drago's. Using this you can disprove that Valka's bewilderbeast is as old as this TH-camr thinks he or she is. Gender comment video directly on the comments. I apologise for this long comment.
The second movie happened after race to the edge, not before. Cause season 6 Valka gets the egg. Second movie she has a bewilderbeast. Bottom of your comment. dude, make a good point then just goes away.
James Williams yeah because if you look at the bewilder in race to the edge and look at the one in httyd 2 the length. Between the eyes and mouth is larger than the one in race to the edge and I’m pretty sure drago took the egg
@@mothzilla8582 In race to dragons edge at the end if season 6 we see someone pick up the egg off a rock. Later in httyd 2 we find the the figure who picked up the egg off the rock and Valka hiccups mother are wearing the same armor. Plus atalli leader of the wing maidens put the egg on the rock. Plus if in the ice caves Below berserker island we see that the bewilderbeast is a bright white like Valka's bewilderbeast not Drago's. Plus I'm pretty sure when hiccup said that" attali knew someone who knew someone who had a safe place to keep it". I'm pretty sure it was Valka, as we see seconds after he says the line of dialogue I said above. Again see a figure pick up the egg and in httyd 2 we see same armor on Valka as we do on the figure at the end if season 6 if race to dragons edge. And referring to your size comparison the bewilderbeast in rtde is older than the Valka's bewilderbeast in httyd 2. It's just younger sister not as big.
Anthropology for me! It's such a broad categorization that I'm able to pursue multiple passions at the same time (culture, biology, language, and artifacts). I've just rewatched it and have already shared this with like 3 people, hope it helps!
Drago's bewildabeast had black and red markings while the other two seen are white and red. Also I believe that Drago's bewildabeast was able to kill valkas because of a higher class.
I think any dragon that is alpha can somewhat control other dragons, but bewilderbeasts have some sort of stronger mind that can fully control dragons if alpha. I imagine a Titan wing Bewilderbeast can control dragons even if it's not alpha, but if it is then it can control humans too and possibly other bewilderbeasts. I like the theory that Vanahiem attracts sick or older dragons because they have weaker minds, and the immense power from the bewilderbeast Titan can attract dragons even when long dead and fossilised. Maybe Titan wing Bewilderbeasts can even be called higher beings.
If u are wondering where is valkas bewilderbeast
It’s on the thumbnail dead
Wait really
Isn't it the one under berserker island uhm nope it isn't
But enough about shipping there's so many new things that we still haven't learned and with the dragon series moving on under the Skies on Netflix we might get some new things the check that out hate more content means more money and more money needs more content it just works in the simulation just keeps on going forever
11:10 Actually Drago’s dragon is older because if you’ve seen the “race to the edge” series you’ll see the bewilderbeast Drago has and you can see a bewilderbeast egg which is given to Valka meaning that Valka’s bewilderbeast has to be younger.
Valka already had met the bewilderbeast when she was taken away from her family by her dragon. She was brought to the bewilderbeast by cloudjumper
@@slayer8630 exactly
In the end of “Race to the Edge” you don’t actually see the the particular Bewilderbeast that Drago has. The coloring is different.
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When you said that Valka's Bewilderbeast was 20 years old. I remembered that after Hiccup got the Bewilderbeast egg at the end of "Race to the Edge". Hiccups friends, the wingmaidens, gave the egg to Valka. So I think that both Drago and Valka's Bewilderbeast's were the same age when they were fighting.
I feel like Dragos beast is the mother of Valka's in the last episode of race to the edge hiccup saved an king of dragons egg and gave it to the wing maidens then they past it on to valka, I'm sure Drago found the mother beast and chained her up while valka was raising the egg
@@hiimaperson2439 And the other king of dragons might've been the mother
The beast that drago had was raised by himself at birth. And Valkas bewilderbeast was already alive when she was taken from hiccup and stoick by cloud jumper, her dragon
@@slayer8630 Then where's the second beast that she raised? because she was given a king of dragons egg in race to the edge while hiccup was 20. I think you're right though she did say "cloud jumper must've thought i belonged here" in the second movie
@@thedevil7604 The one drago had was raised by him from birth. Maybe he somehow stole the egg from Valka or something we might never know.
Are drago’s and valkia’s bewilderbeast 2 different types of bewilderbeast?
I assumed it was a male/female dimorphism, or its just because they are from different areas like a jaguar from the rain basin has more uniform spots whereas one that spend more time near a mountain or in the tops of trees would have more irregular patterns and theres a higher chance of black jaguars because of the canopy blocking light making a black coat more useful, so maybe valkas is darker as its been in a cave so long whereas dragos is whiter since its from an arctic area and underwater more often to blend as an iceberg or something
The diet....im pretty sure its rapid growth can come down to diet aswell..dragos likely had a diet to assist with rapid growrh
I thought that drago's bewilderbeast looked that way because of dragos ways of keeping it under control (probably very painful)
@Zeni As said in this video. Drago raised it from hatch.
actually dragos bewilderbeast is valkas bewilderbeasts father/mother
I feel Bewilderbeasts are capable of achieving Titan Wing status, but we have yet to see one. Titan Wing doesn't just mean bigger- it's an actual growth stage with physical and behavioral differences from the other stages. They're unique from other members of their species. Since all Bewilderbeasts seen thus far are physically similar, behaviorally similar (save for Drago's Bewilderbeast, but that was due to unnatural reasons) and size-wise the same, we can assume these are not Titan Wings, since Titan Wings are extraordinarily rare.
its probably the one on vanaheim
‘THAT IS A CLASS 10 HEAVY CHICKEN’ 😂😂
Thanks for the re-upload
Weren’t the hivewings huge? Oh, wait. Wrong franchise.
Ayyy WOF was great but you can’t deny that the dragons of the HTTYD were more creative and would most likely win a war between the two worlds in a crossover
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About the twenty year old thing Hiccup's mother gets the egg at the end of Race to the edge soo it isn't twenty
Valkas one is only a couple years old, in the last episode of the tv series, hiccup gives the egg to the wing maidens who leave it on a stone pillar for Valka to pick up. It’s 2-3 years old not 20.
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I commented that to but it’s at like the bottom
i'm a bit late but
would love to see a video about purple death
I think that valka’s bewilderbeast is also 2 years old because at the end of that episode valka takes the bewilderbeast egg and raises it. Does that mean that they could get so much bigger then they are already?
No Valka bewilderbeast is over 20 years old
They just mature Quick
Is the screaming death a titan wing whispering death
Its not but there is a titan wing screaming death
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But in a part hiccups mother took the king of dragon egg that hiccups get while he was fighting to find the king of dragon
Hello tim! I have a question. A bunch of my friends and I have started animating a fan series of HTTYD called Return To The Edge. I have released some teasers and stuff about it on my channel. I was thinking of becoming a patreon to contact you on this matter but before I do that, ill try here.
Return to the edge is a fan made series by myself and a few others, mainly another HTTYD youtuber named Strongquartz. He has 10k and I have 24k we are currently hiring volunteer voice actors for characters. I've been wondering if you would like to get involved in this! I believe it would be a great way to keep the spark of popularity of HTTYD growing during this dull wait between now and the third movie. If you would like to participate, or just simply know more about our animated series, hit me up with a reply! I will be happy to answer any questions you have. And the best part is, it'll be copyright free.
Thank you for your time, if you actually end up reading this comment. Even if you don't see it here, you'll be hearing from me soon as I will soon be becoming one of your patreons. Have a good day! -Magicov
Hey Magicov! I'm afraid I just don't have the time to commit to more projects unfortunately. Otherwise, I would have loved to have been involved. When you've got some of it done, flick me an email or tweet and I'll boost it to get you some more viewers.
~ Tim
Hello Future Me Fair enough bro. I understand the struggles of being busy :P Thanks for the reply. -Magicov
i think the idea that it came from u is from ur username?
@@jadendavis9140 huh?
nvm me im just being annoying
Valka’s bewilderbeast wasn’t that much older then drago’s because we saw at the end of race to the edge valka take the bewilderbeast egg
This was oddly interesting; Very good video 👍
I just leaving the another game out to other games that were published from the creators that might give in more details to see the criteria length of withstand arises what genetically happens the dragons that become Titans and like the screaming death could possibly fit a place in that?
“Their knowledge is subjective, but there’s one twice as big as the other ones we saw, so he must be a class 10 titan wing right?”
4:47 corona sounds like I heard that before but idk
Hmm interesting
@@steftherammsteiner8893 yes very interesting
@@tawt4574 hmm yes yes indeed very intriguing
11:24 but in the show dragons edge we see someone get a bewilderbeast egg at the end
Valka's bewilderbeast may not be 20 and more around the age of Drago's. At the end of the Netflix series hiccup saves a bewilderbeast egg and valka later takes it meaning between the time when hiccup saved the egg and the events of the second film. Which means that the skeleton of the bewilderbeast may have just been a older bewilderbeast since the other two were the same age
A question for all of you, would a screaming death be considered a whispering death titan wing?
This could make a great theory video as well
thats what i was thinking
Heres a problem, most titanwings grow about 30-100% larger than they're normal counterparts while the dragon seen on vanaheim was maybe 10 times the size or more (yes I know it doesn't seem that way but remember that it was taking up like half the island space, and islands aren't small and also, look at the humans walking in the mouth of the vanaheim dragon then think about the size of a human relative to a bewilderbeast) Also, the dragon from vanaheim looked more stony (that could just be an animation error, not thinking to make it look more like bones, or the bones rotted/always were that way) and it looked different in general. It had sharper more distinct teeth and the head itself looked a lot more rounded, not flat. I think the fact that it looked so much different and the size difference (one bewilderbeast could fit in the vanaheim bewilderbeast's mouth) is too much to consider it a titanwing.
I think that padrticular Bewilderbeast had already fossilized which is why the bones looked more like stone
Coming back to the good days
i think this was a great vid about this matter because i had this thought on why did drago's beast win even though valka's was clearly more experienced in battling. This led me to think crazy for a second and i even considered drago's to even be a titan because it looked different!! but that thought died down after a hour because they were the same size and it could be a different colour due to either the gender, grey-green + red=male oreo colouring=female, or even the fact of where it was laid, maybe drago's dragon was like this because of water pollution.
I found out. Toothless didn't become a titan win, all dragons unlock new abilities when challenging for alpha which is what toothless achieved
You got Valkas bewilderbeasts age rong because at the end of the Netflix series hiccup found an egg which got wing Madeins to give it to valka so the bewilderbeast is around 5 to 15
Noah Widgren the thing is, they contradict themselves. The movie states the bewilderbeast has been there Since cloud jumper took valka. What I believe is that the egg that was given to valka in edge is actually a fourth dragon that hasn’t hatched yet. That would be interesting
Noah widgren So if that's the case, then a full grown one would, in theory, be the size of the Vanaheim bewilderbeast, or probably bigger, we can't know for sure
1:37 I laughed so hard 😂
I like how he just has Cora in the background
Korra?
So, those wondering about Race to the Edge bewilderbeast egg that Valka took in the ending: the egg is explained/found in School of dragons game. Valka kept it safe and hidden, revealing it when the Night lights are adults. Its in the night lights growing up quests. So Valka does tech have 2 bewilderbeasts. An adult over 20 (which is reguarded as MALE) and the egg which then hatches.
So if you think of it that way there are 4 Bewilderbeasts. Dragos; Valkas Adult and Egg; and the female under Beserker island
11:05 she received the bewilderbeast egg from the wing maidens in the last episode of the tv show making it around 2 years old
4:41 the virus was a name before it was even a thing
My theory: Valka's bewilderbeast IS the egg, and valka had already met one; a regular adult. Valka then found the egg and it grew to be the bewilderbeast in the film (a titan wing). Drago's is another titan wing but stronger. The one in vanaheim was a titan wing, but older and bigger. Bewilderbeasts are very rare, so maybe the one in vanaheim is a parent of the one in Berserker island. So, Drago's bewilderbeast is a titan wing but a bit stronger. We see that Drago's bewilderbeast and VANAHEIM'S have CURVED tusks, while Valka's doesn't. So, Valka's bewilderbeast is the egg, Drago's is unknown where it came from, the one in Berserker island is unknown if it's still alive, and vanaheim's is an old titan wing who was once the biggest king of dragons known to be alive.
I just thought about this TitianWings might be like Cull in Inheritance.
Vulcan dragon is from the egg hiccup saved in the king of dragons part 2
Valka’s is actually 2 years old as we see at the end of dragon’s edge