aRacer RCMini5 / RCMiniX Setup for the Honda Grom and Monkey
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- Install on the 2022 Honda Grom: • aRacer RCMini5 for the...
Install on the 2019 Honda Monkey: • Takegawa 181 Big Bore ...
This video details how to setup the aRacer RCMini-5 or the RCMini-X (same process for the aRacer Super2) with the aRacer AF1 or AF2 wideband module for auto tuning and closed loop adjustments.
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Another answer video. Got the mini x and af2 put in last week and in less then 20mins you covered literally every question I had spot on. Now if I could figure out how to buy features 🤣
Just installed my Chimera Air Intake, Kitaco Oil Cooler and the aRacerMiniX + AF2 today. Wasn't able to get out and tune it today, but when i get another good day out, i plan on following this video again and getting it done! No one in my area seems to work with the aRacer ECU's, quite a bummer. They just work with PCs... which i find all the settings and things you can do for your bike way better on the aRacer. Amazing video, can't wait to watch it again when i get a nice solid day to get out there and ride/tune this puppy up!
Thanks for an awesome tutorial!
Im looking at auto tuners, the DJ and the mini,this is really helpful,so as far as I can tell all I need is 2 sensors and the unit paired to my Android,,definitely getting one
Thank you so much for a gret explanation of the mini 5 set up . Helped me out a lot .
Great stuff my friend,I have learned a lot from your videos .thanks and keep on building.
That's some pretty good info. Thanks dude
Very informative, thanks.
Great video, thanks.
I have the Mini 5 on my heavily modified Grom. For me the best thing about the aRacer is when you modify a part on the engine is the aRacer can relearn and make the best improvements/gains, this is way better than having to get your stock ECU reflashed everytime you modify the engine. Awesome tutorial video!!
Yeh, I completely agree. I was going to talk about ECU flash vs. aRacer/PCV but didn't want the video to be be too long so may do another video on it. Unless you plan on just a couple of basic mods, the RcMini/AF investment is the way to go.
may i inquire what you're running on your grom? I'm wanting to start doing engine mods but am hesitant about ruining my engine or not buying all the things i really need
Wish I bought one first time, iv bought two flashed tunes now. Could of bought one. Also here in Australia they're aren't very popular and have to order everything from the USA. Can't believe it $100 aus for postage for anything.
Hey, thanks for making these videos! Quick question, which app are you using in this video? These are a few on the iPhone. A couple free ones and there’s one you have to purchase. Thanks!
I’m using the paid one, it lets you have more control over the dashboard.
Hello ....... what is the difference between aracer mini 5 mini x and super 2?
Question do you need the bLink module if you have an iPhone cuz there’s no way for me to connect through WiFi
Do you know why it gets stuck at 0% for me when trying to quick burn?
I got my grom with the mini 5 along with tbparts cam,intake and exhaust. No af1 but I found a map for the parts I have. I noticed it needs awhile to warm up or it dies if giving gas. Is the AF1 needed?
Yeh, it’s pretty useless without it. The whole point of the aRacer setup is to not only build the perfect map for your setup, but closed loop an manage small adjustments in real time based on your AFR.
Hey bro. I love your videos. Learned a lot! I have a little issue. Maybe you can help. I do have an aracer and I just installed an AF2. I do have DHM s1 cam, chimera intake, and yoshi exhaust. I noticed after I installed the AF2. The idle seems to struggle. Often times while I’m riding. While on a stop. Bike shuts off. I haven’t done an autotune yet. Everything was based on the map with yoshi, intake, and cam from aracer. What should I do?
The stock maps are worthless. Just do the autotune and then CL as outlined in the video and you should be good to go.
@@eastcoastish thank you brother! I will try that. Should I start with stock flash, then autotune? Also once I am ready, can I just pay you to do my BBK? Hehe. I live in Ca as well.
@@siryaaann I’m all the way down in San Diego, but yeh I could do the install.
@@eastcoastish perfect. Thank you bro. I’m in Northridge. I’m down for a SD ride! I’ll hit you up when I’m ready. Have blessed thanksgiving bro!
glad i got an answer about the wide band and mini x, now i need to spend $800 to get my drop in knn intake and yoshi exhaust to healthy level lol. Also, how did you get that cluster if its a 2019? I really like that!!
The cluster is from Takegawa. It fits 2019-current gen monkey.
Hey Eastcoastish! Great video man! Thank you! I have a question. Have you heard of not being able to connect to the new mini x via bluetooth? I have a flashing blue / red light on the ECU and can't seem to connect with the app. All bluetooth settings are on, but I can't pair no matter what I try. Any ideas? Also, are you in San Diego? Thanks for any help with this.
Yep, in San Diego. I haven’t actually tried a MiniX yet, only the Mini5, but never have had any Bluetooth connectivity issues…
@@eastcoastish Cool. I'm in Poway. Work in UTC. Bought a '23 monkey threw a yoshi pipe and chimera intake on it bought the mini x and af2. I'm able to coonect to the ECU with the free app, but not the paid smart 'pro' app. Not sure what to do yet, but I'll keep trying to figure it out. I was able to AT and save map with the free lite app, so thats cool , but cant fully tune wo access to pro. :(
@@chrisallen1256 it may still be paired to the free app - i'd unpair / delete from the free app and then try again with the paid app.
No luck connecting to the smart app. 😢 I wonder if you have a local shop I can bring it to you and see if you can connect, tune and work some magic? It seems Im able to run AT on the free app and store map but i dont see much increase in top end speed. about 62mph. I was expecting >65. Anyway, appreciate your videos and work. I'm thinking of putting a 13T sprocket on the front and see if that takes me over 65.
Can I flash my 22 grom with just the quick burn aftermarket intake and exhaust instead of buying the afr gauge and auto tuning it? I only bought the mini x.
You can, but you're not using most of the features of the aRacer at that point, and if you're only doing an intake and an exhaust, an ECU flash from DHM or CJR would be a better option. You can also just add the AF2 later when you do your next upgrade.
Do you have to manually save the map every time you shut the bike off? I have the same set up on my Grom and have been confused if it automatically saves the map. Also do you have to load the map at the start of the ride?
Are you leaving auto tune on all the time? If so, I believe it's building a new map every time you ride. If you save the auto tune, turn it off and turn on close loop, then it'll leverage your saved auto tune map and just make fine adjustments through close loop.
I’ve been leaving the auto tune on. I will try turning it off next time I shut it off after a ride. Do you need to ride with the phone always? It’s not clear if you do. That’s why I don’t really like this set up. I preferred my power commander so far. The bike seems to run bad if you try to ride without phone
@@czwhat328 I've had both and in my opinion the PCV pales in comparison to the RCMIni5. Watch the whole video, you need to create a very good autotune map, save it, turn off autotune and then turn on closed loop. Once you do that, you don't need your phone, the RCMini5 will run off your saved autotune map and will used CL to make minor adjustments on the fly.
I just got my mini x and a chimera intake and there’s a quickburn option that has the full exhaust and intake. However, i get an Illegal AMS file message. Is there any way to manually tune it if you don’t have the af2? From my understanding (and correct me if i’m wrong), tunes for an exhaust and intake are just a fuel increase since most groms run more on the lean side. In your opinion, would this solve my issue until they have a fix the quickburn?
In my opinion, the RCMini5/X doesn't do much without the AF1/AF2, there aren't any good pre-defined maps, and the whole point of a stand alone ECM is to be able to tune it specifically to your setup. You're correct that the point is to manage fueling, but it's not just a more fuel vs. less fuel, it's specific fueling depending on where you are in the throttle and RPM range so the fuel varies at different stages, it's not something you can just change and feel out, you really need the AFR readings to determine that (and the auto-tune feature make this easy). I'd recommend picking up the AF module, or alternatively if you're only going to do the intake/exhaust, just get a ECM flash from DHM or CJR that are tuned specifically for your setup.
@@eastcoastish i highly appreciate the in depth answer. the af2 is a little out of my price range at the moment. do you think there are any alternatives until i get the cash for the af2?
@@shmingusdingus You may be able to get a good deal on a used AF1 (I bought my last one on eBay for about $250). Alternatively, DHMotoring.com does flashes to the stock ECM for $159 so you could get the most out of your mods now and then when you do get the AF1/AF2 start adding mods and tuning them yourself.
I have a question about the af2 wideband sensor! I have a hindle exhaust but the bung is located more towards the end of the pipe, would it be possible to run the af2 in that location? The exhaust is ceramic and I didn’t want to weld a new bung on. It’s about 30 cm away from the head
The distance shouldn’t be a problem.
Maybe a dumb question but when you are doing the auto tune. Could you keep it in say 2nd gear that way you can really keep it in the rpms you want without traveling a long distance so theoretically you could tune it this way?
I usually do most of the tuning in 2nd and 3rd gear. Since you want to tune through the entire RPM range and entire throttle range, you’re usually going to keep it in lower gears.
@@eastcoastish that's what I thought! Thank you for the reply. Love your videos man! They have helped me a lot on my 21 monkey.
Been messing with Speed Gain & realized it only adjusts the speed in the xTune app for the MiniX/SuperX..... So if your bike's speedo is off it will still be off.....
After watching this I've been out on this bike and done the auto tune mapping. I have a CBR250R in a grom. All of my map populated in red, no green at all. The whole system is new. Should the lamda sensor be calibrated before using it?
The sensor doesn't need calibration, but you may need to change your fuel base. What map are you flashing it with? I assume you'd need to start with a CBR250 map and not a Grom map?
Yes, I did start with a CBR250R map, am I correct in thinking that the map should populate the cells in green?
@@copper9head yes, if it’s not green it means you’re not hitting the target AFR while you’re making the map. What is your target AFR, and what AFR are you seeing during the tune? You can dm me on IG @eastcoastish if it’s easier to chat…
why cant it read the o2 sensor that is in the exhaust port of the head? The gas going by there is the same as the gas less then a foot past that in the pipe?
The o2 sensor in the exhaust port is a narrowband sensor so it pretty much just says if the mixture is or isn’t at 14.7 AFR (Stoich). The Bosch wideband sensor that comes with the AF1/AF2 can constantly tell you the exact AFR which you need for tuning.
my 2022 monkey have the same engine from your grom? i got 5 speeds. can i use setup from gromm 5 speed?
Yes, the 2022 Grom/Monkey use the same aRacer: www.drowsports.com/aracer-rc-mini-x-2022-honda-grom-monkey
does aracer cut off every restrictions pre load to the ecu, like euro 6 emmision norms
It replaces the stock ECU, so there are no restrictions.
I have a 181 Kitaco 181 Neo kit but having trouble getting help on how to tune this thing, can’t get any help from anyone and live in Hawaii will to pay for the help I just want to get the tune right so I can get this bike up and running
Hello, your tutorial mentions removing 3 degrees across the entire map. How do you do this? You show spark angle and 1 in right hand corner. Ive install DHM high compression piston and david recommends to remove 3° degrees of timing from entire map. Thx, again!
The RCMini5 by default advances timing by 3 degrees across the map, so while it shows 0's under spark angle, it's all still +3 degrees over stock. If you want to take out the timing in any given cell (or all the cells), just select one of the 0's and click the + or - button to advance or retard.
@@eastcoastish grom wont idle. Doesn't respond when I lower or raise aracer idle speed. Any recommendations? Thx
@@alainnadeau3421 Try raising base fuel until it idles well then redo the auto tune map. What map did you quickburn with? I’d recommend using the stock bore map regardless of what you have on your bike. Any time I’ve had something wonky happening that I can’t easily figure out, I just start over with a clean quickburn.
@@eastcoastish stock bore map choice. Tried raising base fuel and reburned. Not even trying to idle.
Should I adjust throttle cable? Install stock injector ?
When the dots start to disappear are those values lost? Is it best to run AT up until values start to erase then save the values to the base file?
Run AT until you’ve got through the whole RPM range/throttle. The dots disappear after time just to keep the screen from being too busy, the values aren’t lost.
So if I have a tyga exhaust without a spot for an AF sensor this programmer wont work?
You won’t be able to run the o2 bung and tune it. Most muffler shops can weld the bung for you. I had one put on for the Tyga exhaust on my Monkey.
Still happy with the product? I just got a 2022 grom with full Yoshi. Will probably go the tst intake route. Wanting to buy this.
Definitely, aRacer is the way to go.
Hello I have a question!
I have aRacer mini x and AF2 installed i quick burn and TPS learn already. I turn on auto tune and go ridding for 5 miles and I save my map and turn on the wb sensor! Now what’s next?
2018 Honda Grom
Cold air intake
Exhaust is what I have. Thank you.
I’d recommend a cam next, you’ll probably pick up at least 1hp from that - next is big bore kit…
Thank you for the reply! About the aRacer that’s it I don’t have to do anything else?
@@kenwoodsd Just keep it in closed loop and you should be good to go.
Why do you lower to 85 the fuel base? That makes the bike lean. I have a big bore kit 170cc and pcx 150 injector and the airflow is way too high at 85
Pcx150 injector is moving more fuel, setting base to 85 gets you closer to the same base fueling as stock. You then autotune to your desired AFR.
When doing the auto tune, do you think you can you do that with the rear wheel lifted by a bike stand?
No, you need to do it under load so either on a dyno or on the road.
@@eastcoastish thanks for the info. Love your Grom vids, they are very informative and well done!
My 2nd question is does the phone have to be on and open for the closed loop to operate?
Nope.
@@eastcoastish thanks man i appreciate the response. 👍
After doing the autotune. Do we keep the close loop on forever?
Yes, always keep CL on. It makes constant micro adjustments to the AFR
I have a stock Grom and I’m looking for the ability to mod and get faster.
Then check out all my videos 🤗
@@eastcoastish LoL TH-cam was not letting me post any comments and this was one where I just typed something. I didn’t realize it actually posted LoL. So I called steady garage and bought their aracer super 2 stage 3 plus wide band oil cooler coil and spark plus. I have an after market exhaust so I will weld the bung on it. I saw where your exhaust had its bung which was after the bend. I will do the same.
Is that dash on the monkey stock
No, it’s the Takegawa TFT dash. It’s a really nice display.
@@eastcoastish heck yea it is was it plug and play??
@@samtarariverasanchez59 yeh pretty plug and play
The dash looks awesome. I wonder if it’ll work with a grom. Or if they have any version for 2022 grom.
Mini x had stopped my tachometer working. Why?
Not sure but I’ve seen it before. I’d quickflash a new map.
@@eastcoastish yea had to burn a non ABS map
bLink not popping up for me Bluetooth on and ignition on No one seems to have a solution 🤦🏾♂️
Try a different phone maybe? I’ve never had an issue with iPhone with any of my aracer setups. The new RCMiniX uses Wi-Fi not Bluetooth (the rcmini5 with the blink used BT)
For the Wheel Speed Gain(launch control) to work you need to wire it yourself or buy this connector from this guy like I did.
th-cam.com/video/l7H3wrv7Zas/w-d-xo.html
I have 1 extra one from him and I'll send it to your PO box tomorrow or Tuesday.
Awesome, thank you!
@@quanwick4516 Hey thanks again for sending this! I'll get a video on it soon :)
@@eastcoastish no problem sir and enjoy!
Didn’t learn a thing to me this is all common sense tips I just wanna know why does every other Tudor explain that you need to save the tune before you turn the bike off with the key for ten seconds then back on. Actually you also missed that you can have Auto tune and the closed loop on at the same time. Also why would you need to keep putting your bike on a dyno, and saying 10,000 rpm is a safe number is bad advice what if somebody has a TB186 with stock cran, the rod bearing would fail very fast. People are getting g dumber I guess.
Sorry you didn’t learn anything but it seems like you have some misinformation. Why would you run autotune and CL together? If you’re running autotune, CL doesn’t add any benefit. If you make a good map you should save your autotune and turn it off and let CL manage minor adjustments.
I keep putting the bike on the dyno to do a very clean autotune after each mod as well as testing to see how much more power I’m making. And 10K RPM is no problem for the stock crank, 11K is fine for the stock crank too, as mentioned in the video it’s valve float that you worry about if you’re running stock springs.