As a mother of two grown children (they are perfect, of course) and a grandmother of two (they are even more perfect), I am so happy to see women grow to the point where they see children as optional, not necessary. I know many women who had children because they felt obligated. They just followed the culture...and never thought they had an option. I am a woman who supports women doing what's best for them. Live your own truth.
I totally agree! Its such an old perspective to think that having or not children is a "competition" between what is best or not....its a personal, private and respectful decision. I have 5 kids and I love it, AND I have family and friends childfree too....we respect and love each other!❤
This conversation? it warmed my heart IN SO MANY FREAKING WAYS. I told my partner: "leave me alone cause I am hanging out with the coolest people in the planet" ♥
I absolutely love listening to my two favorite women: Marie Forleo and Liz Gilbert. Thank you, Marie, for consistently hosting the best conversations with inspiring people. Liz, I’ve read all your books, and Big Magic is one I return to again and again. Marie, your mantra, "Everything is figureoutable," has become a lifeline for me-I repeat it every time I face an obstacle, and it truly feels like magic. Writing every morning brings clarity, and my journal, which I’ve titled My Morning Coffee with Kyle-named after my son who passed away-has been a source of healing. In fact, two of my books were born from those morning reflections. Thank you both for empowering so many women, including me, to keep moving forward and believing in what's possible.
Awww, my heart is broken with you & for you…thank you for sharing Morning Coffee with Kyle…my beloved best friend died 4 years ago & I am beginning to reach out to him thru journaling…blessings as we journey on ❤️🩹
For decades I said that freedom is the top value…and then I realized it came from all the years I didn’t feel free. Now I have discovered that creativity is the top value…creation itself. 💖
Elizabeth has a beautiful talk on Insight Timer about fear. She did it during the fear during covid, but it's pertinent now or any time. I listen to it often.
Wow! Elizabeth Gilbert is so relatable- Thank you for paving the way for us who are saying ‘no thank you’ to societal norms. I’ve often wondered what the world would look like if we women stopped coloring our hair. 🤔 I’m 53, raised 5 kids, moved across the Country from them, living alone to return to school. 😮I’ve declined many dinner invites because I’m enjoying my own company and reading books like Big Magic. Thank you for being you. ❤
This sounds like a dream life, and we're so proud of you making it happen. Let us know how things are going and keep us updated - we're rooting for you! 🥳
This was such a wholesome conversation from many different angles. I like how she doesn't conform to beauty standards because I also don't. I have been shaving my hair for the last 10 years and the statement from women complimenting me and then mentioning their weird shaped head is so true/familiar - I hear it all the time. I am 56 years and look like I am in 40's only because of my healthy habits not trying too hard to stay young. I don't let my phone have control over me, in particular, social media. I better listen to more of Liz's interviews - she is my kinda woman. Thanks Marie for the interview
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This was a beautiful conversation. I have been a fan of Liz Gilbert's for years and I just love to hear her speak her truth. I share this truth and it is so comforting to know that I am not alone in my choices to be greedy, to cut my hair, to live alone. I am sixty years old and I love this life.
I bought a lined journal, I joined the substack, also am fantasizing about shaving my head, focusing on my own hag life goals, and I am so menopausally (should be a real word) invigorated. Thank you Marie, for having her on. I absolutely love this video.
We hope your journal is filled with goodness and may life unfold for you in the most empowering ways. We're sending you LOADS of encouragement and love. 💓
I shaved my head when traveling solo in Nepal back in '79. I had been very self-conscious about my profile and used to hide behind my beautiful long blond tresses. It was a way of "coming out" and showing myself fully.
"now that I've caught up with myself..." THAT statement packs a punch. Love seeing these two ladies discussing the big hairy audacious subjects of life. Personally, I have found the ups/downs of menopause, coupled with past unresolved ups/downs, has given me freedom but has also made things far more confusing. Any ladies identify?
yes, I do identify a lot with that. I'm 63 and thought by now i would have moved past a lot of memories and past emotional stuff that still keeps coming up in my dreams and mind. Confusing and complicated.
Everything about this discussion was exactly what I needed to hear. This is the type of freedom ALL women should experience!! Thank you Marie and Liz for this ❤️
I relate so much to having a body that cannot physically live a lie. I once had a job so bad that for a whole month I could literally barely breathe -- it was like I was slurping air from a straw. Could not figure out what it was. I deep-cleaned for mold, got an expensive air purifier, took allergy meds even though I didn't know what it could, elimination diet to feel out for allergies. Nothing worked. Until I went to the doctor with heart palpitations and they said it was just anxiety and there's some pills they could prescribe for that. But I knew that anxiety wasn't out of nowhere -- I dreaded dealing with certain coworkers every day. That night I was like, am I really gonna go on medication just to keep dealing with these a-holes? No. As soon as I made the decision to quit, all the breathing problems instantly stopped. It really was like my body was gonna choke me from the inside if I didn't quit and move onto the next chapter. (Which was a really fulfilling creative dream!)
I hear ya. I once had a job where I started to go to therapy once a week just to survive the gaslighting and toxicity. Not only were others being abusive, but I hadn’t been taking adequate care of myself. I wasn’t until it was all in the rear view mirror that I realized I could have, and should have, just quit.
@@lynneguimondsabean1606 We're all taught there's something bad about quitting but so often it's the smartest thing. All of my regrets are giving some people too much patience for too long.
Liz is ultra-rocking that skinhead! She has previously slightly irritated me but now Im seeing a totally self-assured, laid back queen. A great role model.
In tears listening to Liz Gilbert speak. As I’m in my 59th year, I so get all of what she’s saying. Learning to embrace my Crone era!!🥰👑🙏🏼✨💫I am finally greedy with my time, but so much more to improve upon. I’m more protective of my energy as well. The idea of freedom rang so clearly in this interview. Thanks Marie for this excellent discussion, these are the talks I love and you are so damn good at. I want more Liz too! ❤❤❤
Thank YOU for being here and sharing your experience with us! And cheers to your 59th year and a brand-new era. May it be your best and most adventurous yet. ✨
I connect with childfree & boy have i spent a lifetime being judged - thought being in my 50s would change that, but somehow people just can’t help making commentary on my childfree status. I always knew this was my path.
Sending you love, Irene - we're so proud of you for knowing your path and sticking to it. That's not easy to do in the face of criticism or critique. You've got this! 💪
This was so great to listen to. I love how Liz is claiming her freedom. I truly believe once you can live alone and enjoy your own company, you begin to hear the whispers of the universe. This is the divine and this is priceless. We must protect our inner peace and freedom ❤
Thank you Marie, thank you Liz. I got so many goldnuggets from this interview. 1) My daughter who is 15 really does not want kids yet my answer has so often been "it will change". Feeling so guilty now. I have this one daughter and I really want a grandchild one day, so selfish. I am going to have a serious talk with her and make it clear IT IS HER CHOICE. I am always underlining that but in THIS area I really have to admit I have been manipulative, even if my happiest moment was when she was born etc so what? Apparently we are all different. I guess the penny about that finally dropped this time. 2) I wanna shave my head. Only yesterday I was looking at really short hairdo, it's a sign! 3) Love the meeting with ideas!! Brilliant!!! I will try to do that. I have so many ideas that I am drowning. Am working on a book on horse training, another on breathing and the third is a young teen book. Its of course paralizing although i am putting in the work. 4) much much more. Thanks and God bless!!
This episode of Marie TV was amazing!!! I loved learning about Liz Gilbert, and what she is all about!!! She is the epitome of living her own life, and doing things her way, now!!! And Marie, you are always incredible!!! This episode showed up in my inbox this morning, and it was perfect for me!!! The both of you speaking about women, and you showed me how we can attain anything we want in our lives!!! I know it helped me to come up with ideas of my future!!! You are so awesome Marie, for staying true to yourself!!❤
I appreciated so much Liz talking about Jack Gilbert’s life, and her desire to live in a deeper and freer solitude. Thank you so much for this beautiful and liberating conversation.
I see this topic relatable to all people. I recognize that my husband of 30 years had been struggling to find himself for his entire adulthood. He left our marriage abruptly with total lack of grace and now seems to have no problem living his authentic self. I have struggled to find a true sense of self after his abrupt and painful exit. I am now finding my way four and a half years later. I do have 3 grown children and I could not appreciate them more, however, living an inauthentic life, doing the chronologically correct thing by marriage house kids, I cannot say that raising my family was a joyful experience. That period of my life was riddled with struggle on all fronts. I am now committed to live as my genuine and authentic self.
You may want different things at different times in your life but the hardest thing is sometimes you don't realize what you want or even need till lator on in life. E.g A friend of mine worked real hard for 20 years and loved what he did and set himself up financially but he now says he wished he had kids earlier on in his life and had spent more time with his wife and family members. So yes sometimes you do things that feel right at the time to you but lator you may/do chamge as you grow. Never regret anything cause sometimes you dont know, what you dont know. I think ultimately nothing else is more important than the connection you have with yourself and with others especially with those close to you.❤
Marie,gosh its so wonderful to here how you knew from early early on that you did not want children.i always tell people that I knew when I was 10-12 years old.I love my friends kids not never ever wanted to be mom.i see kids daily in my job but never wanted any.I also made clear to my husband when we met that how I felt.
Liz Gilbert.. the forever freest spirit ever. I'm not a traveler..I'm a mom of a special needs boy who needs me all the time.. and I have been married for 17 years... to my best and most annoying friend but I will find a way to be "greedier". So inspiring. My life is so different but I always aspire...to have an ounce of her spirit and freedom and insight.
You've got this, Clarisa. We can feel your resolve in your comment, and we know you can make time and space for yourself and that freedom. Sending you so much love!
Great discussion, I love Liz Gilbert and of course Marie... and I think there are so many women who will benefit from this, however I do have to say that while I also felt that dread around having children, and I hated the baby and toddler phase, they are teenagers now and I absolutely LOVE them. I think this conversation would benefit from looking at the fact that "a baby" is a temporary thing. I am 52 now and my son and daughter are remarkable young people that I love to be with. So perhaps we need to talk about whether we are just baby-averse or whether we really do not want to raise a new generation of adults.
Love what Liz says about her digital Sabbath. I LOVE it when I forget my phone, don't check it for hours and hours, and take days away from not only my phone but also my computer, the TV, all media, etc. It's AMAZING - and I've learned that I need more days like this in my life. And, of course her talk about having/not having kids. Prior to getting married, I said I *didn't* want to have kids. Like, it was so expected of me (for all the reasons Liz mentioned) and I found that to be utterly repugnant. Then, around age 34, my clock started ticking (biological). Yet, every time I considered having kids with my former spouse, I would fly into utter panic and terror - that to have kids would NOT be the wise thing. I did this for years before I left the relationship. Sometimes I think if I'd been with the "right" person, maybe the outcome would have been different. Alas, am 44 and having kids is no longer an option for me. AND I'm happier and healthier than I've EVER been (and, have more money than when I was married...)
Thank you so much for sharing this perspective and your thoughts with us, Pam. We deeply appreciate your willingness to open up about your choices. We're so glad you're here. ❤
I always feel Elizabeth's journey or revelation coincides with where I am in my life! Eat Pray Love, was born just around the time I really wanted out of my long term toxic relationship and eventually it did and I took off to Europe to explore and hang with vecinos, while I learned the culture! Today, 2024 I am done with what I've kept around me. Relationships that I helped created based on pain & childhood traumas. It's all coming to the light! I know I need to be done with these relationships! I also am fully aware and present on what my triggers are and things about myself that I wouldn't accept in someone else. I am working on! But, for me! BC when we do the work everyone else gets to enjoy it!! it becomes a positive domino effect! Today, I am so proud of the woman I am! When you live your life for you! Honestly, you become a mirror to others! Some are just not ready to do the work & face their shadows! So therefore they will knock you and discredit you every chance they get! I am done with those people!!! Thanks Liz!!! Love the shaved look!!
What a powerful interview. Like everything that involves Elizabeth Gilbert. PS My dear author, it looks like you have got cold. Do get better soon. Sending lots of love in your direction 💕
I have just turned 51, single and no children.... it's fantastic!!!....I have worked with children and thoroughly enjoyed it, but to have freedom and peace is absolutely priceless.....❤
03:59 Very humble They dont check on us to make sure that we r okay. They keep checking on us to make sure we are upset burdened tired And every moment thinking abt them.
Oh my goodness! I’ve felt such guilt (at age 68) that my energy is not up to 8-10 hrs of heavy duty work!! Real GUILT!! Like what am I doing wrong? THANK YOU for this! I easily have 3 great hours of great work!! So relieved……… TY!!!
Remember to give yourself so much grace, too, Roberta - what's perfect for you might be completely different than what's perfect for someone else. We're so proud of you for digging deep! 💪
Thanks Marie for bringing Liz back. Liz, I love you with all my heart. Your voice calms me down. Your eyes are full of joy, they look like they can smile. I talk to God too. You’ve helped me learn that God always answers except when you ask “why?” I started to ask God for guidance, instructions, the how, the when, the what. God always answers these questions. Thank you thank you thank you! Also you helped me understand a part of my “shadow” (Carl Jung). I am a gay man, who has always tried to be a good person and the idea of being a bad person has been unbearable. My feminine side. I feel I am going well on integrating my shadow. Loving myself more and more. That wasn’t the case few months ago! OH MY GOD!
"...and now that I approach it I find that I cannot do it..." If I had only practiced this when I was in my 20s. No regrets of course, but if you are in your 20s watching this, try it out. Marie, this is a topic that could be expanded on. You have videos about quitting, but I don't recall an episode about breaking promises and maintaining integrity. Or even recovering integrity after breaking a promise.
I have so enjoyed listening to you, Liz, in this current round of podcasts and interviews. You are so beautifully alive and real and radiant with good ideas and interpretations of your experiences, your energy is great company. I have recently seen a few hours of you in recent days and I thank you for your intelligence and openness.
Ahhhhh, "so beautifully alive" - something we could all hope to be. ❤ Absolutely love this share - thank you for being here and watching with us, Stella!
Liz is so magical to listen to! The way she protects her time and peace while still showing up as her most authentic self is incredibly inspiring! Thank you Marie for another wonderful interview 🙏 I love how you pointed out the fears behind fierce ambition! Being in my 30s it’s so interesting to learn from those who lived the path before 👏👏
8:41 My body has not been true to me. I've just learned this. However, there are therapies I'm doing that are changing this. For example, hyper-vigilance causes a fight-or-flight response when none is needed. It's incredibly freeing to "teach" my body to respond in a more natural way.
We love how you articulated this, Tammy - that it can be freeing to work with your body in a natural way. We appreciate this share, and you, so very much.
Thank you so much from the bottom of my heart! 💖 when you were talking about money, Liz, I couldn't believe how similar we are/ were.. you inspired me to become more free...I used to give and rescue until I was completely exhausted... I am now starting to become greedy, realizing that every day is a gift to be enjoyed ...
Absolutely adored watching this. I found it incredibly healing and am going to get more greedy and be a better Caretaker of my precious time. At 67.. I am not quite ready to be a hag or crone... but give me another 15.. and I relish the thought of being an old sage! Sending love
Oh Deb, thank you so much for taking a moment to share this with us! We're thrilled this sparked a bit of inspiration and reminded you of your innate wisdom. Sending you love. xoxo
Now, that’s not true that unmarried women live longer happier life. Truth is that our callings are different and the sooner we realize our callings, the sooner we will live more fulfilled life.
I suppose it is also conditional on the culture that woman is from , but I can tell you that I come from Croatia and it I 1 Milion % true for my culture.
Sure, it’s not “always” the case for every unmarried and childfree woman, but she’s stating statistics of longevity and mental health. I think the big factor for happiness is having choice and control over how you want to live your life.
If you ever listen to anything while reading comments, let it be this - go find book called Hidden Manifestation by Oliver Mercer, then come back and thank me
We don‘t really know how live authentically when we‘re young.. no one does! A newly grad in Highschool doesn’t know what course to take.. a newly college grad, doesn‘t know which direction to take.. until we experience all the bullshits first, we don‘t really know what our souls really need. It is longing for something .. since birth but we have to go thru processing until something unexpected comes our way.
OMG, what an incredible show!!! I love Liz Gilbert and she gets more real, more mature, more herself with the years. I absolutely adored their talk about No Email, Shaving her head, and on getting greedy with our time (and money!). Thank you, Marie Forleo for another great episode!!
We're thrilled you're here and even more excited you resonated so deeply with this interview, Azucena. Thank you for sharing with us and for watching. Sending you so much love!
THANK YOU, Thank you, thank you! What a beautiful deep conversation! Thank you for talking about so many interesting and vital things. I'm a grown woman with no kids who lives in Russia, and the topic of having children is quite relevant. Thank you for speaking so honestly and openly about everything. Love you both so so much!!!
So many great points! I loved the parts about channeling and being childfree and the hair topic was a nice surprise. Just perfect! As a fellow buzzcut woman, I so get Elizabeth’s enthusiasm for it! It’s so empowering and freeing (time and money wise), especially if you’re not one to enjoy styling it. No anxiety about your hair looking unwashed or unstyled when you come across people you didn’t expect to meet or if you make spontaneous plans/ video calls for work.
Love this perspective and share so much. There's certainly a sense of freedom there, not to mention not having to even think about your hair being "done". Wonderful point! We're so glad you're here!
Wonderful to listen to. Like you I do not have children. As I grow more mature 😍, not old as most people tend to say, I do value my personal time and thought I’d be selfish. GREAT to listen to you. Huge thanks 🙏❤️
Not one bit selfish to use your time the way you'd like to, Christel. In fact, it seems that with maturity, you've gained so much wisdom - and we're so grateful you shared some with us! xoxo
This longing for solitude and stillness reminds me a lot of my trekking through the Sahara. The stillness and calm was amazing, plus the sun in winter... I wish i could do that at least a couple of weeks every year! And sometimes i wish i could do that all year. Or at any rate just be free of this rat race and the crazy "more, harder, faster, louder" life that never calms down.
This was such an incredible interview for so many reasons. I resonate with so much of what was shared and how Liz views and lives life. I'm in awe of the guidance in this. the message of being greedy for our time is so powerful. I thank you both for all your time and energy giving us this wonderful listen. I love you both dearly
I love the hair convo! Sounds like the "wisdom of menopause" what Christian Northrup referred to as "throwing the leg of lamb through the plate glass window" to how women should or think they should wear their hair!
So refreshing to hear this great conversation. I bought Elizabeth's book "Big Magic" and didn't recognize her in this podcast. Great conversation and insights.
Oh my, this is my situation. I gave & gave to my 96yo MIL. Nothing was ever enough. 10 months ago I was diagnosed with stage 4 breast cancer. I want to be greedy for my own needs. I’m having to deal with my hurt & anger with her now so as to not allow this to continue to eat me up. I am learning it’s ok for me to be greedy. To accept support, and know it has no condition s.
Oh Satya, we're so sorry to hear about your recent diagnosis and the challenging feelings coming with it. We're sending you so much love as you navigate your way forward (and a big, warm hug). xoxo
It’s important that you do t have children if you don’t want them. My life has so much joy because of my children. But if it doesn’t bring you deep joy, don’t do it. Children aren’t accessories. End rant.
Hair! yes, that's how I feel too. I keep it bob length with bangs and pull it back into a low ponytail. In the summer I wear a visor out for errands so I don't have to hair spray my bangs. The hair itself is too fine for shorter haircut.
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Fantastic interview!
As a mother of two grown children (they are perfect, of course) and a grandmother of two (they are even more perfect), I am so happy to see women grow to the point where they see children as optional, not necessary. I know many women who had children because they felt obligated. They just followed the culture...and never thought they had an option. I am a woman who supports women doing what's best for them. Live your own truth.
We so appreciate you sharing this perspective and being here with us, Judith. Sending love to you and yours. 🤗
I couldn't agree more!
I totally agree! Its such an old perspective to think that having or not children is a "competition" between what is best or not....its a personal, private and respectful decision. I have 5 kids and I love it, AND I have family and friends childfree too....we respect and love each other!❤
Absolutely agree.
I am single mum with 2 teenagers, my ex husband left country and live his second life… feeling completely used. 😢
Beautiful and respectful perspective - we thank the people like you.
Im 52 yrs old from philippines ..im so happy to see this and listened while im working as a maid...Thank you❤❤❤
Thank you so much for watching. We appreciate it.
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I keep thinking Liz Gilbert can't get any better and then she does. Her connection to Love inspires me. Cackle cackle CACKLE.
Oh thank you so much for your kind words, Genevieve! Liz is incredible and we were so glad to have you in our community (:
This conversation? it warmed my heart IN SO MANY FREAKING WAYS. I told my partner: "leave me alone cause I am hanging out with the coolest people in the planet" ♥
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This: "childfree" NOT "childless"!! The first is empowering and the second is shaming. Language is powerful.
Thanks for the child-free portion of the talk! Really validating and really appreciate the facts!
Always! ❤
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I would love to see Marie doing more interviews etc about living a child-free life!
@@JannieMac Thanks for sharing that. We've made note of your feedback. :)
Liz is just getting better with age. Love her free spirit. 🦋
Us too. Thank you so much for being here - we sure appreciate you! ❤
I absolutely love listening to my two favorite women: Marie Forleo and Liz Gilbert. Thank you, Marie, for consistently hosting the best conversations with inspiring people. Liz, I’ve read all your books, and Big Magic is one I return to again and again. Marie, your mantra, "Everything is figureoutable," has become a lifeline for me-I repeat it every time I face an obstacle, and it truly feels like magic. Writing every morning brings clarity, and my journal, which I’ve titled My Morning Coffee with Kyle-named after my son who passed away-has been a source of healing. In fact, two of my books were born from those morning reflections. Thank you both for empowering so many women, including me, to keep moving forward and believing in what's possible.
Awww, my heart is broken with you & for you…thank you for sharing Morning Coffee with Kyle…my beloved best friend died 4 years ago & I am beginning to reach out to him thru journaling…blessings as we journey on ❤️🩹
For decades I said that freedom is the top value…and then I realized it came from all the years I didn’t feel free. Now I have discovered that creativity is the top value…creation itself. 💖
What a brilliant realization, Shoshana. We're so glad you shared this with us. 😄
Ms. Pearl? Love your poetry!
Elizabeth has a beautiful talk on Insight Timer about fear. She did it during the fear during covid, but it's pertinent now or any time. I listen to it often.
I can't seem to find it! Any chance you have a link?
So true! I go to sleep when my son goes to sleep and I write in the mornings! Mornings are magic. All of the sparkles.
Wow! Elizabeth Gilbert is so relatable- Thank you for paving the way for us who are saying ‘no thank you’ to societal norms. I’ve often wondered what the world would look like if we women stopped coloring our hair. 🤔 I’m 53, raised 5 kids, moved across the Country from them, living alone to return to school. 😮I’ve declined many dinner invites because I’m enjoying my own company and reading books like Big Magic. Thank you for being you. ❤
This sounds like a dream life, and we're so proud of you making it happen. Let us know how things are going and keep us updated - we're rooting for you! 🥳
This was such a wholesome conversation from many different angles. I like how she doesn't conform to beauty standards because I also don't. I have been shaving my hair for the last 10 years and the statement from women complimenting me and then mentioning their weird shaped head is so true/familiar - I hear it all the time. I am 56 years and look like I am in 40's only because of my healthy habits not trying too hard to stay young.
I don't let my phone have control over me, in particular, social media.
I better listen to more of Liz's interviews - she is my kinda woman.
Thanks Marie for the interview
We're honored you resonated with this conversation - we're grateful you're here and watching with us, and we're sending you tons of love! ❤ Keep up the incredible work.
This was a beautiful conversation. I have been a fan of Liz Gilbert's for years and I just love to hear her speak her truth. I share this truth and it is so comforting to know that I am not alone in my choices to be greedy, to cut my hair, to live alone. I am sixty years old and I love this life.
What a wonderful share! We're so thrilled you're here and watching with us. xoxo
I periodically forget to take my phone when im out shopping or running errands, for several hours and i really enjoy that time when it happens.
A sign for you that you needed it. So glad you've made that observation for yourself.
I bought a lined journal, I joined the substack, also am fantasizing about shaving my head, focusing on my own hag life goals, and I am so menopausally (should be a real word) invigorated. Thank you Marie, for having her on. I absolutely love this video.
We hope your journal is filled with goodness and may life unfold for you in the most empowering ways. We're sending you LOADS of encouragement and love. 💓
I shaved my head when traveling solo in Nepal back in '79. I had been very self-conscious about my profile and used to hide behind my beautiful long blond tresses. It was a way of "coming out" and showing myself fully.
Oh Linda, we love this so much. What a beautiful way to articulate what this experience meant to you. Thank you for sharing! ❤
a strong human continuing to learn how to be LOVE. perfection.
I'm not feeling lost or unhappy, but I had to listen to this conversation of 2 of my favorite people online. I could hear you talk all day!
Awwww, you're so sweet! Thank you for being here. xoxo
"now that I've caught up with myself..." THAT statement packs a punch. Love seeing these two ladies discussing the big hairy audacious subjects of life. Personally, I have found the ups/downs of menopause, coupled with past unresolved ups/downs, has given me freedom but has also made things far more confusing. Any ladies identify?
yes, I do identify a lot with that. I'm 63 and thought by now i would have moved past a lot of memories and past emotional stuff that still keeps coming up in my dreams and mind. Confusing and complicated.
Everything about this discussion was exactly what I needed to hear. This is the type of freedom ALL women should experience!! Thank you Marie and Liz for this ❤️
Now that's a compliment of the highest caliber! Thank you so much for watching with us - we're so glad you're here ❤
I relate so much to having a body that cannot physically live a lie. I once had a job so bad that for a whole month I could literally barely breathe -- it was like I was slurping air from a straw. Could not figure out what it was. I deep-cleaned for mold, got an expensive air purifier, took allergy meds even though I didn't know what it could, elimination diet to feel out for allergies. Nothing worked. Until I went to the doctor with heart palpitations and they said it was just anxiety and there's some pills they could prescribe for that. But I knew that anxiety wasn't out of nowhere -- I dreaded dealing with certain coworkers every day. That night I was like, am I really gonna go on medication just to keep dealing with these a-holes? No. As soon as I made the decision to quit, all the breathing problems instantly stopped. It really was like my body was gonna choke me from the inside if I didn't quit and move onto the next chapter. (Which was a really fulfilling creative dream!)
I hear ya. I once had a job where I started to go to therapy once a week just to survive the gaslighting and toxicity. Not only were others being abusive, but I hadn’t been taking adequate care of myself. I wasn’t until it was all in the rear view mirror that I realized I could have, and should have, just quit.
@@lynneguimondsabean1606 We're all taught there's something bad about quitting but so often it's the smartest thing. All of my regrets are giving some people too much patience for too long.
Liz has an amazing soothing voice!
Liz is ultra-rocking that skinhead! She has previously slightly irritated me but now Im seeing a totally self-assured, laid back queen. A great role model.
In tears listening to Liz Gilbert speak. As I’m in my 59th year, I so get all of what she’s saying. Learning to embrace my Crone era!!🥰👑🙏🏼✨💫I am finally greedy with my time, but so much more to improve upon. I’m more protective of my energy as well. The idea of freedom rang so clearly in this interview. Thanks Marie for this excellent discussion, these are the talks I love and you are so damn good at. I want more Liz too! ❤❤❤
Thank YOU for being here and sharing your experience with us! And cheers to your 59th year and a brand-new era. May it be your best and most adventurous yet. ✨
I connect with childfree & boy have i spent a lifetime being judged - thought being in my 50s would change that, but somehow people just can’t help making commentary on my childfree status. I always knew this was my path.
Sending you love, Irene - we're so proud of you for knowing your path and sticking to it. That's not easy to do in the face of criticism or critique. You've got this! 💪
This was so great to listen to. I love how Liz is claiming her freedom. I truly believe once you can live alone and enjoy your own company, you begin to hear the whispers of the universe. This is the divine and this is priceless. We must protect our inner peace and freedom ❤
There are few people in the world whose presence brings calm - Liz is one of them. I love listening to her always!
We love that so much. We're so glad you're here. ❤
Thank you Marie, thank you Liz. I got so many goldnuggets from this interview. 1) My daughter who is 15 really does not want kids yet my answer has so often been "it will change". Feeling so guilty now. I have this one daughter and I really want a grandchild one day, so selfish. I am going to have a serious talk with her and make it clear IT IS HER CHOICE. I am always underlining that but in THIS area I really have to admit I have been manipulative, even if my happiest moment was when she was born etc so what? Apparently we are all different. I guess the penny about that finally dropped this time. 2) I wanna shave my head. Only yesterday I was looking at really short hairdo, it's a sign! 3) Love the meeting with ideas!! Brilliant!!! I will try to do that. I have so many ideas that I am drowning. Am working on a book on horse training, another on breathing and the third is a young teen book. Its of course paralizing although i am putting in the work. 4) much much more. Thanks and God bless!!
This episode of Marie TV was amazing!!! I loved learning about Liz Gilbert, and what she is all about!!! She is the epitome of living her own life, and doing things her way, now!!! And Marie, you are always incredible!!! This episode showed up in my inbox this morning, and it was perfect for me!!! The both of you speaking about women, and you showed me how we can attain anything we want in our lives!!! I know it helped me to come up with ideas of my future!!! You are so awesome Marie, for staying true to yourself!!❤
I appreciated so much Liz talking about Jack Gilbert’s life, and her desire to live in a deeper and freer solitude.
Thank you so much for this beautiful and liberating conversation.
I see this topic relatable to all people. I recognize that my husband of 30 years had been struggling to find himself for his entire adulthood. He left our marriage abruptly with total lack of grace and now seems to have no problem living his authentic self. I have struggled to find a true sense of self after his abrupt and painful exit. I am now finding my way four and a half years later. I do have 3 grown children and I could not appreciate them more, however, living an inauthentic life, doing the chronologically correct thing by marriage house kids, I cannot say that raising my family was a joyful experience. That period of my life was riddled with struggle on all fronts. I am now committed to live as my genuine and authentic self.
You may want different things at different times in your life but the hardest thing is sometimes you don't realize what you want or even need till lator on in life. E.g A friend of mine worked real hard for 20 years and loved what he did and set himself up financially but he now says he wished he had kids earlier on in his life and had spent more time with his wife and family members. So yes sometimes you do things that feel right at the time to you but lator you may/do chamge as you grow. Never regret anything cause sometimes you dont know, what you dont know. I think ultimately nothing else is more important than the connection you have with yourself and with others especially with those close to you.❤
Omg I could not love Liz more. This was pure gold, thank you for having her!
Thank YOU for being here! 😊
Wow, this was so good!! Love how Liz is rejecting conventional beauty standards and prioritizing freedom.
Heck yes, Selena. ❤
Liz and Marie : Two of the most inspiring women in this world for me. Thank you for being here and sharing your message ❤🙏🥰💕
You're so sweet! Thank you so much for being here. xx
Marie,gosh its so wonderful to here how you knew from early early on that you did not want children.i always tell people that I knew when I was 10-12 years old.I love my friends kids not never ever wanted to be mom.i see kids daily in my job but never wanted any.I also made clear to my husband when we met that how I felt.
Liz Gilbert.. the forever freest spirit ever. I'm not a traveler..I'm a mom of a special needs boy who needs me all the time.. and I have been married for 17 years... to my best and most annoying friend but I will find a way to be "greedier". So inspiring. My life is so different but I always aspire...to have an ounce of her spirit and freedom and insight.
You've got this, Clarisa. We can feel your resolve in your comment, and we know you can make time and space for yourself and that freedom. Sending you so much love!
Great discussion, I love Liz Gilbert and of course Marie... and I think there are so many women who will benefit from this, however I do have to say that while I also felt that dread around having children, and I hated the baby and toddler phase, they are teenagers now and I absolutely LOVE them. I think this conversation would benefit from looking at the fact that "a baby" is a temporary thing. I am 52 now and my son and daughter are remarkable young people that I love to be with. So perhaps we need to talk about whether we are just baby-averse or whether we really do not want to raise a new generation of adults.
Totally agree! I hated the baby and toddler stages but loved the teenagers and now young adults. I have 3 and SO thankful I chose to!!!
Wow the first 2 minutes of this podcast just blew my mind.
I agree 10000%
We LOVE hearing that, Jess. Thank you so much for being here ❤
Love what Liz says about her digital Sabbath.
I LOVE it when I forget my phone, don't check it for hours and hours, and take days away from not only my phone but also my computer, the TV, all media, etc. It's AMAZING - and I've learned that I need more days like this in my life.
And, of course her talk about having/not having kids. Prior to getting married, I said I *didn't* want to have kids. Like, it was so expected of me (for all the reasons Liz mentioned) and I found that to be utterly repugnant. Then, around age 34, my clock started ticking (biological). Yet, every time I considered having kids with my former spouse, I would fly into utter panic and terror - that to have kids would NOT be the wise thing. I did this for years before I left the relationship. Sometimes I think if I'd been with the "right" person, maybe the outcome would have been different. Alas, am 44 and having kids is no longer an option for me. AND I'm happier and healthier than I've EVER been (and, have more money than when I was married...)
Thank you so much for sharing this perspective and your thoughts with us, Pam. We deeply appreciate your willingness to open up about your choices. We're so glad you're here. ❤
The sociological accuracy piece! Ooooof. Preach Liz.
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Marie you are so awesome. I just like your style and mind. I can watch this podcast all day. Great episode gorgeous!
Liz Gilbert has such a wonderfully calm and soft voice, that brings so much truth and strength. ❤
We just love this, Kristin! And we agree with you - Liz is so powerful and so wise. ❤
Omg this is so powerful and speaking to me on a deep soul level. Even in the first five minutes!! Wowwww
You were definitely meant to be here today. 🤗
I always feel Elizabeth's journey or revelation coincides with where I am in my life! Eat Pray Love, was born just around the time I really wanted out of my long term toxic relationship and eventually it did and I took off to Europe to explore and hang with vecinos, while I learned the culture! Today, 2024 I am done with what I've kept around me. Relationships that I helped created based on pain & childhood traumas. It's all coming to the light! I know I need to be done with these relationships! I also am fully aware and present on what my triggers are and things about myself that I wouldn't accept in someone else. I am working on! But, for me! BC when we do the work everyone else gets to enjoy it!! it becomes a positive domino effect! Today, I am so proud of the woman I am! When you live your life for you! Honestly, you become a mirror to others! Some are just not ready to do the work & face their shadows! So therefore they will knock you and discredit you every chance they get! I am done with those people!!! Thanks Liz!!! Love the shaved look!!
What a powerful interview. Like everything that involves Elizabeth Gilbert.
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My dear author, it looks like you have got cold. Do get better soon. Sending lots of love in your direction 💕
#HagLife LOL!! I Love Liz!! So humorous and wise and kind. Just a breath of fresh air.
We love her so much too, Samantha. So grateful you're here and watching with us! ❤❤
I have just turned 51, single and no children.... it's fantastic!!!....I have worked with children and thoroughly enjoyed it, but to have freedom and peace is absolutely priceless.....❤
We're so grateful you shared! Thank you for this perspective. ❤❤
I could listen to Liz all day
Us too, Mary. 😊
Oh my God! Liz Gilbert (and you, Marie) always surpasses herself. ¡What a conersation! I'm so crying. Thank you both, Marie and Liz!!!!
Thank YOU for being here, Diana! We adore you! xoxo
being married and being a parent is a blessing
For YOU yes.
Liz is gonna need to tell me where they got their shoes because I'm living for them!
03:59
Very humble
They dont check on us to make sure that we r okay.
They keep checking on us to make sure we are upset burdened tired And every moment thinking abt them.
Oh my goodness! I’ve felt such guilt (at age 68) that my energy is not up to 8-10 hrs of heavy duty work!! Real GUILT!! Like what am I doing wrong?
THANK YOU for this! I easily have 3 great hours of great work!! So relieved……… TY!!!
Remember to give yourself so much grace, too, Roberta - what's perfect for you might be completely different than what's perfect for someone else. We're so proud of you for digging deep! 💪
Liz is just the BEST!! One of the wisest women I’ve ever heard speak. ❤
We think so, too. ❤
Thanks Marie for bringing Liz back.
Liz, I love you with all my heart. Your voice calms me down. Your eyes are full of joy, they look like they can smile. I talk to God too. You’ve helped me learn that God always answers except when you ask “why?”
I started to ask God for guidance, instructions, the how, the when, the what. God always answers these questions. Thank you thank you thank you!
Also you helped me understand a part of my “shadow” (Carl Jung). I am a gay man, who has always tried to be a good person and the idea of being a bad person has been unbearable. My feminine side. I feel I am going well on integrating my shadow. Loving myself more and more. That wasn’t the case few months ago! OH MY GOD!
"...and now that I approach it I find that I cannot do it..." If I had only practiced this when I was in my 20s. No regrets of course, but if you are in your 20s watching this, try it out. Marie, this is a topic that could be expanded on. You have videos about quitting, but I don't recall an episode about breaking promises and maintaining integrity. Or even recovering integrity after breaking a promise.
Its like spending time with two of my best friends. Definitely coming back to this. Love love Liz. She only gets better. ❤
That's so sweet of you to say. ❤❤ We're honored you're watching with us!
What a wholesome conversation🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷 Love this lady. She embodies self compassion, freedom and such authenticity💞💞
We're so happy you thought so. Thank you for watching and for sharing such a sweet thought with us! xoxo
I have so enjoyed listening to you, Liz, in this current round of podcasts and interviews. You are so beautifully alive and real and radiant with good ideas and interpretations of your experiences, your energy is great company. I have recently seen a few hours of you in recent days and I thank you for your intelligence and openness.
Ahhhhh, "so beautifully alive" - something we could all hope to be. ❤ Absolutely love this share - thank you for being here and watching with us, Stella!
Liz is so magical to listen to! The way she protects her time and peace while still showing up as her most authentic self is incredibly inspiring! Thank you Marie for another wonderful interview 🙏 I love how you pointed out the fears behind fierce ambition! Being in my 30s it’s so interesting to learn from those who lived the path before 👏👏
I love Liz Gilbert. She is a shining visionary for women!!
We love YOU, Monica! Thank you for watching with us. ❤
My FAVORITE empowered women! Great to have this reunion conversation with Marie and Liz. More power ladies! 🎉
Yesssssss! From one empowered woman to another, we're so glad you're here. 💪
8:41 My body has not been true to me. I've just learned this. However, there are therapies I'm doing that are changing this. For example, hyper-vigilance causes a fight-or-flight response when none is needed. It's incredibly freeing to "teach" my body to respond in a more natural way.
We love how you articulated this, Tammy - that it can be freeing to work with your body in a natural way. We appreciate this share, and you, so very much.
Thank you so much from the bottom of my heart! 💖 when you were talking about money, Liz, I couldn't believe how similar we are/ were.. you inspired me to become more free...I used to give and rescue until I was completely exhausted... I am now starting to become greedy, realizing that every day is a gift to be enjoyed ...
We're never alone, Isabella - and it's honor to have you here and watching with us. Keep up the incredible work. You're doing everything just right. ❤
Absolutely adored watching this. I found it incredibly healing and am going to get more greedy and be a better Caretaker of my precious time. At 67.. I am not quite ready to be a hag or crone... but give me another 15.. and I relish the thought of being an old sage! Sending love
Oh Deb, thank you so much for taking a moment to share this with us! We're thrilled this sparked a bit of inspiration and reminded you of your innate wisdom. Sending you love. xoxo
Now, that’s not true that unmarried women live longer happier life.
Truth is that our callings are different and the sooner we realize our callings, the sooner we will live more fulfilled life.
I suppose it is also conditional on the culture that woman is from , but I can tell you that I come from Croatia and it I 1 Milion % true for my culture.
Sure, it’s not “always” the case for every unmarried and childfree woman, but she’s stating statistics of longevity and mental health. I think the big factor for happiness is having choice and control over how you want to live your life.
If you ever listen to anything while reading comments, let it be this - go find book called Hidden Manifestation by Oliver Mercer, then come back and thank me
We don‘t really know how live authentically when we‘re young.. no one does! A newly grad in Highschool doesn’t know what course to take.. a newly college grad, doesn‘t know which direction to take.. until we experience all the bullshits first, we don‘t really know what our souls really need. It is longing for something .. since birth but we have to go thru processing until something unexpected comes our way.
Beautifully said. We need to live through so many experiences in order to figure out who we are! ❤
"give everybody else your garbage time." Love it! How genius!
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I'm a simple gal; I see Liz and Marie, I click (then watch on rotation all fricking month).
Yesss, I'm so with you on that! 😍
Thank you, I need this ! especially about being single, 30 with no kids
Meaningful content here
This is a rewatch often video for reinforcement
You're so sweet. Thank you for being here, Bridget ❤
@@TeamForleo you are welcome 🙂
Yes! I've already saved it to my "favourite" folder. ☺️
OMG, what an incredible show!!! I love Liz Gilbert and she gets more real, more mature, more herself with the years. I absolutely adored their talk about No Email, Shaving her head, and on getting greedy with our time (and money!). Thank you, Marie Forleo for another great episode!!
We're thrilled you're here and even more excited you resonated so deeply with this interview, Azucena. Thank you for sharing with us and for watching. Sending you so much love!
I feel the expression “put your head where your feet are” sounds like “grounding”.
THANK YOU, Thank you, thank you!
What a beautiful deep conversation!
Thank you for talking about so many interesting and vital things.
I'm a grown woman with no kids who lives in Russia, and the topic of having children is quite relevant. Thank you for speaking so honestly and openly about everything.
Love you both so so much!!!
We sure appreciate you being here, watching with us, and sharing your thoughts, Daria. Sending you so much love from across the pond. ❤
@@TeamForleo thank you, team Forleo! 🥹❤️💘
Letters to myself is so surprising,revealing and comforting
We love to hear that!
This interview was a gift! So grateful! 🙏 Liz’ meeting with her future self gave me goosebumps.
YOU are a gift to us. Thank you for watching! xoxo
So many great points! I loved the parts about channeling and being childfree and the hair topic was a nice surprise. Just perfect!
As a fellow buzzcut woman, I so get Elizabeth’s enthusiasm for it! It’s so empowering and freeing (time and money wise), especially if you’re not one to enjoy styling it. No anxiety about your hair looking unwashed or unstyled when you come across people you didn’t expect to meet or if you make spontaneous plans/ video calls for work.
Love this perspective and share so much. There's certainly a sense of freedom there, not to mention not having to even think about your hair being "done". Wonderful point! We're so glad you're here!
Liz Gilbert connects me back to my heart. thank you for this soothing beautiful interview. there is a good connection between Marie and Liz.
Ahhhhh, we couldn't have said it better. Liz definitely seems to have a direct channel straight there. xoxo
Just fantastic 🔥🔥🔥 This conversation just restored my faith in humanity. You are both such powerful and inspiring women!!! ❤
Wonderful to listen to. Like you I do not have children. As I grow more mature 😍, not old as most people tend to say, I do value my personal time and thought I’d be selfish. GREAT to listen to you. Huge thanks 🙏❤️
Not one bit selfish to use your time the way you'd like to, Christel. In fact, it seems that with maturity, you've gained so much wisdom - and we're so grateful you shared some with us! xoxo
This longing for solitude and stillness reminds me a lot of my trekking through the Sahara. The stillness and calm was amazing, plus the sun in winter... I wish i could do that at least a couple of weeks every year! And sometimes i wish i could do that all year. Or at any rate just be free of this rat race and the crazy "more, harder, faster, louder" life that never calms down.
I LOVE Elizabeth Gilbert❣
We love you! ❤
This was such an incredible interview for so many reasons. I resonate with so much of what was shared and how Liz views and lives life. I'm in awe of the guidance in this. the message of being greedy for our time is so powerful. I thank you both for all your time and energy giving us this wonderful listen. I love you both dearly
Ohhh, this share absolutely made our day today. Thank you for being here - we love you too ❤
I love the hair convo! Sounds like the "wisdom of menopause" what Christian Northrup referred to as "throwing the leg of lamb through the plate glass window" to how women should or think they should wear their hair!
So refreshing to hear this great conversation. I bought Elizabeth's book "Big Magic" and didn't recognize her in this podcast. Great conversation and insights.
We're so grateful you watched with us, Adriana. Sending love to you!
RIVETING conversation! Great start to my day. Thank you! Love you both so much. xo
We love you too, Linda ❤
Oh my, this is my situation. I gave & gave to my 96yo MIL. Nothing was ever enough. 10 months ago I was diagnosed with stage 4 breast cancer. I want to be greedy for my own needs. I’m having to deal with my hurt & anger with her now so as to not allow this to continue to eat me up. I am learning it’s ok for me to be greedy. To accept support, and know it has no condition s.
Oh Satya, we're so sorry to hear about your recent diagnosis and the challenging feelings coming with it. We're sending you so much love as you navigate your way forward (and a big, warm hug). xoxo
It’s important that you do t have children if you don’t want them. My life has so much joy because of my children. But if it doesn’t bring you deep joy, don’t do it. Children aren’t accessories. End rant.
Love the talk about mornings! They belong to me! Love them!
Love love this interview. Thank you so much Marie!
I love this, finally women speaking truthfully about not having children.. It is so refreshing
We're so happy to hear that, Wendy. Thank you for watching and sharing with us! xoxo
I’m the same. Counting down the days of how much happy free life I have left to live before I have to have kids.....
You don’t have to!
@@ms1295yes. It’s a freeing feeling 😊
what a beautiful story, lesson to learn for all of us..............she is such sweet soul.
Hair! yes, that's how I feel too. I keep it bob length with bangs and pull it back into a low ponytail. In the summer I wear a visor out for errands so I don't have to hair spray my bangs. The hair itself is too fine for shorter haircut.
Emails for me caused the most anxiety. Minimising my emails has actually improved my mental health a whole lot.
I loved this podcast so much that now I'm watching the video!! Thank you for this conversation- both of you!
Oh, we're so glad Jennifer! Feel free to listen (or watch) it as many times as you like 💞