Sony is more versatile and IQ and its contrast is better, with both covering good range, including 35mm mixed with wide range. Before I watched your review, I was considering 20-40, now I am in doubt!
Just get brand new 16-35 f4 G.. 4mm different in wide end feel great than tight end.. F4 just fine for me for video, since i always do f4 for most of time because it is sweet sharpest spot than below f4.
Very charming video mate! The boy can talk! Lol Seriously, good production and visual representation. The future looks bright 👍🏼 Both great lenses it seems.
Thank you for the comparison, Although I shoot more photo than video, I still get the Sony 16-35 G (just few days ago), Simply the build quality of sony is much better, and sony doesn't extend when zoom in or out. Tamron only have one year warranty here in my country, while Sony got 2 years, which makes it even better. I could live with F4 since I don't do lots of night shooting, (just change to a cheap prime lens at night will do) The only down side of Sony for me would probably the 72mm filter thread, so far the biggest one on hand is 67mm. Live the moment, thanks for sharing.
hello Kensei, congratulations for your beautiful videos and your great ability to entertain us in front of the camera, bravo! I'm curious to know which color profile you use because it seems to me particularly natural and it doesn't seem too worked, I guess a slog because I see it as rich but I'm not sure. (i'm sony user since long ago 🙂). all the best
Thank you so much!! For talking head scenes, I used Sony A7III with S-LOG3. But for other B-roll and intro shots, I used bmpcc6k with BRAW. Hope this helps
Totally agree with you when you said : know yourself. This is the advice to know before spending money on gear since photography/filmmaking is an expensive hobby. I personally prioritize gear for landscape photography. And I think that the wider, the better, and the cheaper the better, because I don't need this fast AF. So, in my case I will go with the sigma 16-28
I still don't understand what the actual issue is? Do you as a photographer ever care at all what the focal length is? I certainly don't ever felt the need to look at that number, the right focal length is the one that brings everything I want in the frame without anything I don't want.
Amazing Video! Thank you for listening to your audiences needs and providing the content they were asking for (probably you planned it anyways, but I saw many comments asking for this comparison) I have both and its hard for me to let go of one, but I think I will stick with the Sony G and use my primes for stills. You deserve a lot more viewers, hope you will grow more! Cheers
Low light performance will be always better using Primes and if you have a7siii or similar cams, F4 is not a problem for dusk situations. Great video and comparison! Always 👍 Bro
Prime is obviously quite limiting, you would use it if you have no acceptable zoom alternative. Wide angle zoom lenses are great for indoors, and in many cases you can get away with f/2.8, but f/4 can be a big problem. It's not like you take all shots at the same ISO, you will have a continuous range, like during my last shoot I had ISOs from 320 to 51200 at the same restaurant. Above certain point (say ISO 12800) your pictures start degrading significantly. You well may have 10% of such pictures with f/2.8 lens and 50% with f/4 lens or 80% with f/5.6 lens, etc. Even f/8 lens can be used for something. So it's not like a slow lens is totally useless, you just end up with fewer good pictures at the end. Knowing that at f/4 a lot of pictures will fall off the cliff, I would never take such a lens for indoor parties. For me both 17-28 and 20-40 Tamrons are a lot more useful than Sony.
Of the two, I would prefer Sony except that in the rather close-up video shots of the yours face, I noticed that introduces a certain deformation, a bit like comparing a portrait taken with a 50mm. and an 85 mm., so my favorite is Tamron
how about the distortion? I once had a Tamron 20mm f2.8, the distortion was very annoying, especially when taking videos with buildings in the background
@@TW-iu9zy I agree with you but if you need a 2,8 zoom wide angle on the budget I think is the best option compared to the Tamron 17-28. If you have the money for the Sony 16-35 f2.8 is the best option.
Thank you for comparing two lenses. Another important feature for me is stabilization when using Active Stabilization. I heard that Tamron lens does not work well with a7IV Active Stabilization.
I just got that Tamron 20mm-40mm for my Ronin RS3 and to be honest that is probably the perfect lens for a gimbal. No wires no nothing and the gimbal is so powerful that it doesn't matter at all for the balance of the gimbal when you zoom in and out. The zoom distance is just so short on that Tamron. I can't think of a better gimbal lens really.
I have a bunch of primes, so not really worried about the difference in aperture. Despite the price difference, I prefer the Sony for photography work mostly due to one feature I have come to love....the aperture ring. When I had my Canon 6D, I loved using the Tamron primes and long zooms, but since switching to Sony, the Tamron 28-75 didn't excite me with its image quality....and now I am a bit biased against Tamron.
I'm planning to get a Sony A7C but still deciding which lens to buy for vlogging. Do you recommend Sony FE PZ 16-35mm F4 G, Sony FE 14mm F1.8 GM, Sigma 16-28mm F2.8 DG DN or Tamron 17-28mm F2.8. What's your take?
@@KenseiAkatsu Three days too late sir. Bought A7C with Sony FE 14mm F1.8 GM. Great for vlogging! I have to get another lens for photo. So tamron 20-40mm os the best?
Super helpful! You would really help me in my decision making process if you could compare the Tamron 20-40 with the Sony 20 f1.8 ha,ha! I did look at the Sony 16-35PZ in the store and didn't care for the physical look of it so passed. I am wishing to replace my Tamron 17-28 as I find it too restrictive on the long end .
Maan I was looking for this review but tamron 20-40 2.8 vs the zeiss 16-35 2.8. I know you love the zeiss, I have watched your cinematic review of the zeiss but which one would you get? Zeiss or Tamron? Hope you see my comment thank you Kensei sensei!
That was a great video….thank you. Im going to plan my future now and live in the moment…….No more camera research…..I’m going to buy my first full frame camera tomorrow morning. Done!
Thank you for the comparison. Great video and great job describing the differences. I have the Tamron 17-28 and just got a 20-40 tester from Tamron. I am thinking of letting the 17-28 go. I like the range and the feel of the 20-40. However, it misses focus on my A7RIV. At f2.8 there is a noticeable difference in sharpness in the corners between 20mm and 40mm. 20mm is much sharper. I did not expect to see that. I am a still photographer with occasional video projects. I have to find out what the deal is with this autofocus not being on target. I am having the same issue with my 150-500 and the tester 50-400 I borrowed from Tamron. My 28-75 G2, 70-180 and 70-300 have no issues with autofocus at all. Anyone else experiencing focus miss issues? Thanks.
@@AlexCruzHaha I am sending the tester 20-40 back this week. I am totally happy with the sharpness results. The only thing is that I noticed, from time to time, it misses critical focus (sharpness) for some reason. I think it is my A7RIV body rather than the lens. I may hang on to my 17-28 a little longer as there is rumor of a 20-70 Sony. That would be the ultimate travel lens for me. I am in no hurry to make the switch and will wait for the next few months. As far as 20-40 as a better choice for street photography vs. 17-28, you are absolutely right, it is better as the range is more useful, especially on the longer end.
I think you described my point when I talk about tamron having this nicer feel than other lenses in this video, when you talked about sharpness. these newer tamrons have these charcter and I love it for video as well as for photo. I think that it was the highlights like you mentioned. so I have my heart set on tamron 17-28 but will wait for an update cause the current one has bad autofocus and also is older glass. might get the sony 20mm 1.8 before that. but I wont be getting this the 20-40mm,
Tamron is 1200 EUR, Sony GM is almost 3,000 EUR and offers only slightly better optics compared to Tamron 20-40. I have only Zeiss, Voigtlander and GM glass but in the case of 16-35 lenses, the Tamron 20-40 is clearly a better choice.
Thanks for waiting and watching!!
I hope this helps you!!
Let me know which you like better!
this intro is pure shokunin - sorry if that doesn't make sense 100% but I think you get what I mean!
Sony is more versatile and IQ and its contrast is better, with both covering good range, including 35mm mixed with wide range.
Before I watched your review, I was considering 20-40, now I am in doubt!
Just get brand new 16-35 f4 G.. 4mm different in wide end feel great than tight end.. F4 just fine for me for video, since i always do f4 for most of time because it is sweet sharpest spot than below f4.
Was waiting for this one.
Amazing video btw, keep it up👍👍
Hope you enjoyed it!
I will!!!
Very charming video mate! The boy can talk! Lol
Seriously, good production and visual representation. The future looks bright 👍🏼
Both great lenses it seems.
Been watching you ie content lately, very creative and fun
Glad you enjoyed it!!
Love your vids, keep doing what you do ✌
Thanks!!
thanks. have been waiting to this comparison
Glad to help
Love the humor and great quality content you got here. 1 sub.
Thank you!!
I'm comparing the sony 16-35 f4 vs sony 20-70 f4 and this was helpful in seeing the 16mm vs 20mm comparison. Thanks
What lense did you get in the end?
Thank you for the comparison,
Although I shoot more photo than video, I still get the Sony 16-35 G (just few days ago),
Simply the build quality of sony is much better, and sony doesn't extend when zoom in or out.
Tamron only have one year warranty here in my country, while Sony got 2 years, which makes it even better.
I could live with F4 since I don't do lots of night shooting, (just change to a cheap prime lens at night will do)
The only down side of Sony for me would probably the 72mm filter thread, so far the biggest one on hand is 67mm.
Live the moment, thanks for sharing.
I think your gear choice is genius!
Sony 1635 F4 G + A prime lens!!
That'll do pretty much everything!!
Tamron gives 5 year warranty here in Germany actually and i think thats outstanding.
@@radioaktivmarder That's way better, makes it a no-brainer to choose Tamron 20-40mm.
This is definitely a spam or a scam.
My Tamron 50-300 has 10 years warranty here in Italy lol
Great video great information
Amazing insight!!😍
hello Kensei, congratulations for your beautiful videos and your great ability to entertain us in front of the camera, bravo! I'm curious to know which color profile you use because it seems to me particularly natural and it doesn't seem too worked, I guess a slog because I see it as rich but I'm not sure. (i'm sony user since long ago 🙂). all the best
Thank you so much!!
For talking head scenes, I used Sony A7III with S-LOG3.
But for other B-roll and intro shots, I used bmpcc6k with BRAW.
Hope this helps
Thank you Kensei. You are the best!
Thank you too! I will be!!
nice review ~~~ thanks ~
Always love your videos
Thank you as always!!
Awesome video! How exactly did you activate digital clear zoom using the focus ring on the Sony?
Totally agree with you when you said : know yourself.
This is the advice to know before spending money on gear since photography/filmmaking is an expensive hobby.
I personally prioritize gear for landscape photography. And I think that the wider, the better, and the cheaper the better, because I don't need this fast AF. So, in my case I will go with the sigma 16-28
That's good!
You know what you need and want!
Keep it going with yourself!!
Very informative review and cool style , i like this and subscribed.
Thank you!
Very helpful video that help me to make a decision. 😊
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for pointing out about the zooming issue of the 16-35 when shooting photos. That alone was the deal breaker for me.
I still don't understand what the actual issue is? Do you as a photographer ever care at all what the focal length is? I certainly don't ever felt the need to look at that number, the right focal length is the one that brings everything I want in the frame without anything I don't want.
Amazing Video! Thank you for listening to your audiences needs and providing the content they were asking for (probably you planned it anyways, but I saw many comments asking for this comparison) I have both and its hard for me to let go of one, but I think I will stick with the Sony G and use my primes for stills.
You deserve a lot more viewers, hope you will grow more!
Cheers
Of course!!
I love people get happy by my videos!!
And sure, this channel will be much much bigger!!!
Keep your eyes on me!!
Kensei, Your videos are Awesome! Been watching a couple now 🎉 Do you Think the tamron 20-200f2.8 could work as a Marco lens?
Thank you!!
I don't think that lens has a good macro performance that much
Low light performance will be always better using Primes and if you have a7siii or similar cams, F4 is not a problem for dusk situations. Great video and comparison! Always 👍 Bro
Maybe either of those, and a prime lens combo is good!
Prime is obviously quite limiting, you would use it if you have no acceptable zoom alternative. Wide angle zoom lenses are great for indoors, and in many cases you can get away with f/2.8, but f/4 can be a big problem. It's not like you take all shots at the same ISO, you will have a continuous range, like during my last shoot I had ISOs from 320 to 51200 at the same restaurant. Above certain point (say ISO 12800) your pictures start degrading significantly. You well may have 10% of such pictures with f/2.8 lens and 50% with f/4 lens or 80% with f/5.6 lens, etc. Even f/8 lens can be used for something. So it's not like a slow lens is totally useless, you just end up with fewer good pictures at the end. Knowing that at f/4 a lot of pictures will fall off the cliff, I would never take such a lens for indoor parties. For me both 17-28 and 20-40 Tamrons are a lot more useful than Sony.
Sony 16-35 f2.8 if you have the $$$$, if you in budget tamron 20-40 f2.8
True in some points!
There's rumours of new 16-35 GM mkii coming so probably not a good time to buy it now
you are the seriously the best!
THANKS!!
The focus control on the Tamron can be adjusted in the app.
Of the two, I would prefer Sony except that in the rather close-up video shots of the yours face, I noticed that introduces a certain deformation, a bit like comparing a portrait taken with a 50mm. and an 85 mm., so my favorite is Tamron
Thanks😊
It really helps. I picked the sony after watching this, keep up the good work bro!
Great video!! Do I know which one I want now?? No, but this helped Hahah!
how about the distortion? I once had a Tamron 20mm f2.8, the distortion was very annoying, especially when taking videos with buildings in the background
VERY GOOD comparison. Which one did you keep?
I payed to rent both, but I haven't bought the one yet.
My mind is shifting like "Okay, maybe Im buying some camera bodies now?" lol
@@KenseiAkatsu maybe A7R5 body
Thanks Kensei, would be really interested to see how these compare to the Sony 20mm 1.8G
Me too!
Thank you for your advice. I will buy 20-40.
sigma 16-28 f2,8 I think is the way to go!
Good option!!
… not, if you need more reach. For me It’s a cheaper compromise but not the best option. 🤷🏼♂️
@@TW-iu9zy I agree with you but if you need a 2,8 zoom wide angle on the budget I think is the best option compared to the Tamron 17-28.
If you have the money for the Sony 16-35 f2.8 is the best option.
@@aris-hawk … yeah, true! hopefully the M II version gets the same IQ and features like the 24-70 GM II.
I own the Sony and I have fun with it. It’s so light and I enjoy the power zoom.
Can you do a comparison on 100400GM vs Tamron 50400? Tamron costs around 1600 CAD and used 100400GM costs 2300 CAD here in China. I cannot decide.
Thank you for comparing two lenses. Another important feature for me is stabilization when using Active Stabilization. I heard that Tamron lens does not work well with a7IV Active Stabilization.
I will try it!
@@KenseiAkatsudid you try it? 😊
aperture is a consideration if you do starry sky photography
Yeah, that's true!
I just got that Tamron 20mm-40mm for my Ronin RS3 and to be honest that is probably the perfect lens for a gimbal. No wires no nothing and the gimbal is so powerful that it doesn't matter at all for the balance of the gimbal when you zoom in and out. The zoom distance is just so short on that Tamron. I can't think of a better gimbal lens really.
I have a bunch of primes, so not really worried about the difference in aperture. Despite the price difference, I prefer the Sony for photography work mostly due to one feature I have come to love....the aperture ring. When I had my Canon 6D, I loved using the Tamron primes and long zooms, but since switching to Sony, the Tamron 28-75 didn't excite me with its image quality....and now I am a bit biased against Tamron.
Same here!
I'm planning to get a Sony A7C but still deciding which lens to buy for vlogging. Do you recommend Sony FE PZ 16-35mm F4 G, Sony FE 14mm F1.8 GM, Sigma 16-28mm F2.8 DG DN or Tamron 17-28mm F2.8. What's your take?
I would get 16-35PZ from them.
But Tamron 20-40mm is a great option if you do both of video and photo!
@@KenseiAkatsu Three days too late sir. Bought A7C with Sony FE 14mm F1.8 GM. Great for vlogging! I have to get another lens for photo. So tamron 20-40mm os the best?
That's exactly what I presumed, 16-35 would definitely be better for video, but I absolutely hate power zooms (zoom by wire) when taking photos
This was perfect but i'm still confused, lol. I just picked up the 16-35 for $972 with warranty but the F4? I can still return it. 🙃
Tamron 20-40, I like it
I like it too!
Super helpful! You would really help me in my decision making process if you could compare the Tamron 20-40 with the Sony 20 f1.8 ha,ha!
I did look at the Sony 16-35PZ in the store and didn't care for the physical look of it so passed. I am wishing to replace my Tamron 17-28 as I find it too restrictive on the long end .
That'll be a good comparison!
Maan I was looking for this review but tamron 20-40 2.8 vs the zeiss 16-35 2.8. I know you love the zeiss, I have watched your cinematic review of the zeiss but which one would you get? Zeiss or Tamron? Hope you see my comment thank you Kensei sensei!
Now I like Tamron better because of the size and weight!
@@KenseiAkatsu Thank you very much for your comment! :DD
That was a great video….thank you. Im going to plan my future now and live in the moment…….No more camera research…..I’m going to buy my first full frame camera tomorrow morning. Done!
Good!!!!!!
Well it’s done, thanks again for the inspiration! I picked up the a7iii (Black Friday sale) and some used lenses (Tamron 28-75 f2.8, Sigma 50mm f1.4).
Love your vids. New sub bill easy.
Thank you!!
Good Quote Don’t be trapped by your pass, grab tight your presence for your future ❤
Well said!!
Don't forget at 1.5 crop you've got 52 v 60mm
you got me subscribed by your intro! lollll
Thanks!!
i like ur video！！
Thank you!
Fantastic review. Tamron is the winner over all
Thank you for the comparison. Great video and great job describing the differences.
I have the Tamron 17-28 and just got a 20-40 tester from Tamron. I am thinking of letting the 17-28 go. I like the range and the feel of the 20-40. However, it misses focus on my A7RIV. At f2.8 there is a noticeable difference in sharpness in the corners between 20mm and 40mm. 20mm is much sharper. I did not expect to see that. I am a still photographer with occasional video projects.
I have to find out what the deal is with this autofocus not being on target. I am having the same issue with my 150-500 and the tester 50-400 I borrowed from Tamron. My 28-75 G2, 70-180 and 70-300 have no issues with autofocus at all.
Anyone else experiencing focus miss issues? Thanks.
Did you end up letting go of the 17-28? The 20-40 seems so good for street and video I’m in a similar situation
@@AlexCruzHaha I am sending the tester 20-40 back this week. I am totally happy with the sharpness results. The only thing is that I noticed, from time to time, it misses critical focus (sharpness) for some reason. I think it is my A7RIV body rather than the lens. I may hang on to my 17-28 a little longer as there is rumor of a 20-70 Sony. That would be the ultimate travel lens for me. I am in no hurry to make the switch and will wait for the next few months. As far as 20-40 as a better choice for street photography vs. 17-28, you are absolutely right, it is better as the range is more useful, especially on the longer end.
It was definitely helpful. If I ever get one I would prefer the sony just because of the focal length. Another good video bro!
Awesome, thank you!
I think you described my point when I talk about tamron having this nicer feel than other lenses in this video, when you talked about sharpness. these newer tamrons have these charcter and I love it for video as well as for photo. I think that it was the highlights like you mentioned. so I have my heart set on tamron 17-28 but will wait for an update cause the current one has bad autofocus and also is older glass. might get the sony 20mm 1.8 before that. but I wont be getting this the 20-40mm,
So, wanna see Sony 20mm F1.8 vs Tamron 20-40mm F2.8??
@@KenseiAkatsu oh yeah! that would be great.
So for landscape photography do you think the extra wide angle of the 16-35mm sony lens is a game changer? Thanks for your great video !
I don't know if it's a game changer but a definitely lovely lens!!
Knowing yourself well is indeed 😂way more important for choosing right gear than minor detail differences between lenses LoL
I should choose Sony
F2.8 - enough said!
So where are the climbing videos?
There are some on my 2nd channel!
when i make a decision, it's easier...i never go for f4 :)))
Why?
@@KenseiAkatsu Bokeh
i like the way you dress. all black everything
Tamron have little warm colors, don't know whjy , may be my copy of lens but its atleast 300-400k Differenc eion color temprature compared to sony kit
Nothing less than a 12-40mm f/0.95 (weighing 800 pounds).
Tamron is 1200 EUR, Sony GM is almost 3,000 EUR and offers only slightly better optics compared to Tamron 20-40.
I have only Zeiss, Voigtlander and GM glass but in the case of 16-35 lenses, the Tamron 20-40 is clearly a better choice.
The Tamron images look way more 3D. Everything else looks even.
just pick the tamron 17-28 f2.8.
I wasn't sure what to get. I was OK with starting at 20mm and was OK with f4 they the Sony came out with the 20-70 f4.
For $700 vs $1200, Tamron is better bang for buck.
True
16 to 20 25% diff
35 to 40 14% diff
Нет нет нет ! Сони лучше! Цвет более насыщенный. Если для видео это не важно то для фото важно очень!
I like tamron’s colour.😂😂😂.