@Gubalicious The idea is that if the answer was YES, it would be a statement instead of a question. The only time Betteridge's Law fails is headlines like "Are you ready for the holiday shopping season?" or "Are you getting enough potassium in your diet?" The author doesn't know either way. Your shopping might be done and you might eat a banana every day with lunch.
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 it is in general, the rule in the mainstream media. But they don’t have any credibility, having been exposed for being even worse than we thought. You do, therefore people are starting to move over to channels like yours for their information, entertainment and news. I think a large part is authenticity.
Russell Edwards should have been charged with wasting police time and resources, nevermind the distress he put the family of Keith Bennett through. I think he's a con artist and a narcissist.
Dude! This was an AMAZING documentary about this topic. I just happened to come across this channel as a result of a random search for true crime on TH-cam and this popped up. I watched it and it was fantastic. I have seen both documentaries you mentioned, but with the shawl evidence one I, too, was skeptical and I'm not a Ripperologist. I just have a fascination with the case. Anyway, your impeccable research and your delivery of the research has given you a new subscriber from across the pond! Well done!
Ed, your channel is criminally underrated. As far as I'm concerned you are the foremost Ripperologist. Your videos have completely changed the way that I think about this case and shown that it is a much more complex mystery than i ever thought.
Since watched your first episode Mr Stow, till the day I die, I cannot watch nor bear to observe anyone else’s explanation from “their” investigation. And there are some starting to crop up now with “Lechmere”. Aussie of English ancestry here. Love your work.
There are two types of proofs, “beyond reasonable doubt” and “the preponderance of the evidence”. Let’s face it, no one will ever solve the case using the standard “beyond reasonable doubt”. With regards the “preponderance of the evidence”, then Aaron Kosminski has got to be the #1 suspect, due to several very strong pieces of evidence not even taking the DNA into account. The mitochondrial DNA may have low probability when looking at the total uk population, but when you apply the probability to a sample size of some 10-20 identified suspects and you get a match, then the probability of that is several million to one.
@@lyndoncmp5751 Every day, contaminated evidence is accepted by the courts, through ruling out other sources. For example: A man buys a gun from a black market dealer. He then uses the gun in an armed robbery. After the robbery he flees the scene and throws the gun away. An old lady finds the gun in some bushes and pick it up. She then goes to the police and hands it in. The policeman at reception touches the gun and hands it over to the the detective, who in turn hands it over to forensics. The forensic expert takes finger prints and finds 7 unique finger prints on it. Everyone will agree that the fingerprint evidence is contaminated. However detective work can rule out 6 of the 7 fingerprints thus solving the crime. Forensic Mitochondrial DNA cannot be used to positively identify the suspect BUT it can be used to rule out other suspects. S YES it can be used to solve a crime!!!
(Not so) fun fact is that even H. H. Holmes who is known to be US first serial Killer was a possible suspect as he was in London during that time. So even if he wasn't the Jack the Ripper it is even more creepy that that means you would have 2 of the most horrific serial killers of all time walking around in London.
@tarapapacek7731 Jack The Ripper was almost certainly a nondescript local man with intimate knowledge of the area and all the back alleys and streets, even probably the police beats.
I’m so glad I discovered your work! I believe you are right that one reason the allure of Jack the Ripper continues is that he was never identified or apprehended. While the Golden State Killer may not be as mythological, he held California in his grip for decades. Once he was caught and details about him were revealed, interest in the case diminished.
Even if you could prove without a shadow of a doubt that this shawl belonged to a Jack the Ripper victim I dont think DNA found on her clothes could 100% be attributed to the killer. Firstly, people didnt have lots of clothes and Im sure she didnt change her clothes daily. Theres likely to be stains and DNA from many days of wear on her clothes. So even putting aside the police and every other person to handle this shawl after her death, there is likely more then one persons DNA on her clothes. Did she meet with more then one man while wearing it? Did she loan it to another woman? We wouldnt know, but Id say chances are good that we will not find Jack the Rippers DNA this way.
Brilliant video Ed once again. I have recently had to open a new facebook page as my old one got hacked. I have tried to rejoin the ripper page (on Facebook) monitored by our Kosminski friend and been rejected. lol I wonder why. 😁 shame really because I really enjoyed interacting with like minded people who share an interest with all the JTR. Anyways, keep up the great work 🙌🏼
@declined from the group once again. I have no idea why? The only conclusion I can come up with is because I believe Lechmere was Jack the Ripper. So much for an opinion and open debate on the page Steve. Very disappointing and very unprofessional.
Three minutes in and evidently some senior police officer had said 'yeah sure, take it home as a souvenir' - sounds most improbable to me, even in those times. Anyhow, i'll keep watching and see how it all unfolds.
The problem with the DNA on the shall/scarf is that the guy who tested it was given restrictions in what he could do. When the tests were done it was not put up for peer review and this is important for the outcome. Peers did review it and it failed every peer review as they all found flaws in many different areas.
Great video Mr.Stow..I see a documentary on this a few years back and I have to say I wasn’t convinced..Still been good to hear your view on this DNA episode..
Yes, the depth of your research is very impressive, sir. The people who have in their blood "Jack the Ripper" are as fascinating as the Ripper case itself.
The thing you want to see at the Black Museum has nothing to do with Jack the Ripper. There is a pair of binoculars there that was sent to a teenage girl on her birthday. She started to raise it to her eyes then for some reason didn't. Her father picked it up to adjust the focus and two long, sharp spikes came out. To this day, over a hundred years later, nobody knows who the anonymous sender was. Thinking of the mind who could fashion such things and what it might have gone on to do gives me more chills than Jack the Ripper.
My eyes lit up when I saw you have another post, thank you for all your hard work, am looking forward to your next video, I think it has been proved that Kominski was discluded.
People constantly destroy things if they can get a souvenir. It’s why so many historical sights have to be protected from stupid tourists and visitors.
I am a direct decent of Mary Ann Nichols so as you can imagine I’m most interested in everything to do with the case.I enjoyed listening to your theory’s I’m still on the fence but where all definitely closer than we have ever been
*Scotland Yard knew who it was. They actually invented the 'Jack the Ripper' character to cover their own rear ends because they were in his room, looked through his stuff, had his name, etc- and he got away from them. This kind of thing has been going on as long as bureaucracies have been failing.*
No they never knew who it was for certain they at top made assumptions but they weren't even police either met or city chiefs were not serving officers in those days
Putting aside the questionable provenance of the shaw, as a retired crime scene investigator, I need to point out that the presence of the suspect's DNA on the victim's shaw only indicates the victim's shaw and the suspect, or something with his DNA on it, were in physical contact at some point. Giving the victim's occupation, this DNA information has limited value due to its ability to be easily transferred from object to object. DNA, on its own, does not prove guilt! It only points to a possible line of investigation. All the facts surrounding a case must be considered.
Another WONDERFUL video!! Your research is second to none, and ALL your videos are just so interesting and informative!! Thank you so much Mr.Stow!! CANNOT WAIT FOR THE NEXT ONE!!!
“Dubious” I think is the operative word here … I’ve watched it twice now and it appears that the only proven facts are :- 1. Eddowes was murdered in Mitre Square on 30/9/1888 2. Amos Simpson was a Metropolitan police officer who lived in Cheshunt. The rest is like me pointing out that Eddowes is “almost” an anagram of Ed Stow. Congratulations Edward , on another excellent expose’.
This is a brilliant and ( imo ) fair and balanced destruction of the DNA research /“ evidence “ rendering it utterly useless . That the provenance of the shawl was also as shady as a Nigerian email nicely sums up Russell Edwards and his book for what he is . A businessman , a carpet bagger and opportunist.
On that russel fellas page you can't even question him on things or doubt his conclusion he boots you off his page I bet he's fuming with this outstanding video 😂😂😂
I hate self pronounced scientists who ly for their own importance and then cowardly shy away from confrontation. What a jerk. He should be sued for distorting historic truths.
About a year or so ago I had a Genealogical DNA I was born and raised in England as also were my parents. The result was 46%, English then a mixture of Welsh, Irish, Swedish. I was born and raised in England as also my Parents. I did have 1 Great Grandmother who had some Irish blood, but in so far in my research I haven't traced her and family back to Ireland. Question: my brother thought Jack the Ripper was the King. I have seen your other video's on the subject but that was a few years ago. I'm 82 years old now so my memory is not so good anymore. I'm glad your post came up on YT today.
As always excellent research, very thorough. All this really adds to the interest in this subject, it really is a bigger subject than most people realise isn't it?
Everything else aside, I find it impossible to believe that if Simpson was present in Mitre Square (highly unlikely) that a senior officer would have allowed him to remove vital evidence from a crime scene simply because Simpson wanted it for his wife's dressmaking. Tosh!!
There was a "shawl" recovered after the Eddowes murder. Not in Mitre Square, I don't remember the exact location right off, but in the area. The shawl was covered in blood, and was known to belong to Eddowes. Assumption has always been that Jack used it to wipe the blood from his blade, and then discarded it. Only real evidence from that shawl is that it showed the direction that Jack traveled after the murder...which was back into White Chapel. Now, as you mentioned, a senior law enforcement official just giving that away to someone is nonsense.
As a Collectables/ Antiques dealer Sadly I can confirm that there are dealers who do cut up items & destroy books put things in frames. This increases profits by increasing sales
Jack the Ripper isn't dead, he works at my local Dry Cleaners. I sent a jacket to be dry cleaned, it come back with the linings in the sleeves ripped, the pocket corners torn & 2 buttons missing and yes you guessed it the gravy stains on the lapels were still there! (sarcasm)
@@TheRedDevil-1968 Those that lack a sense of humour will never be able to solve this intriguing case, as humour requires a High IQ just like detective work
It was Lechmere, or someone very much like him. Someone working the slaughterhouses, meat markets, someone people were used to seeing everyday (Cartman), with a leather apron normally covered in blood, and seemed unassuming and fits into the background.
Painter Richard Sickert is Jack. His paintings are like the crime scenes. His models are the spitting image of the corpses. The paintings are like Polaroids to relive the crime. Also a doodle by the ripper (known only by the cops) showed up in a seaside registry signed by Richard Sickert.
Damn really? Is he the one who did the Jack the Ripper's Bedroom ? Also not being sarcastic or anything at all but where did you hear/ read about the doodle? That's fascinating and would love to look into that more. I always thought it was Lechmere or Kosminski like most people do ( and I wouldn't consider myself a Ripperologist by any means lol)
This video and the channel show the power of evidence and thorough research. I don't know who JTR was but it was more likely Lechemere as he can placed at the scene of one murder. Excellent, balanced, fact based approach as always. Top Job.
For DNA to identify Jack the ripper would mean that an absolute scientific and medical miracle happened back in the day when he committed the crimes and they actually found his blood or his DNA or something on his victims which I have never heard was the case.
We have our own author Edwards (Dan) perverting the records of history here in the US involving Billy the Kid. We need someone as thorough, passionate and exacting as you to preserve our history. The UK is lucky to have you.
Your videos are always thorough and well done. You could easily expand to another channel of reviewing other famous cases, and write books too. There are plenty of good TH-cam channels on the True Crime subject. I always liked Bad Things True Crime. But of course, there are so many achingly bad channels, a good one would stand out.
That is actually possible because ladies of that time were full of 'good works' and used to donate all their used clothing to charities. It was very a very fashionable pursuit in those days. Many of these items ended up in second-hand/rag and bone shops which Whitechapel had in droves. That being said, there is no chain of evidence for this particular item. Firstly, it is unlikely in the extreme that a bobby on the beat would be allowed to keep a souvenir from the crime scene, the belongings of Eddowes in the Coroner's report were inventoried very narrowly and NO shawl was mentioned. Lastly, mitochondrial DNA is strictly from the female line and does not change no matter how many generations have passed, so it could be from ANY female antecedent - maybe from people who do not even know they are related from ages ago. For example, my first cousins from my uncle would seem to be in no way related to me just using mitochondrial DNA, yet someone whom I have never heard of, in Australia maybe, could be seen as a close relative if someone had been Transported 200 years ago.
The DNA doesnt matter because so many people touched it w ungloved hands. So its impossible to say 100% who committed the crime. Tbey might get an idea but not 100%.
WOW! These Ripperologists are vicious with each other - not unlike Jack the Ripper with his victims. . . It's lucky that Edward has all we fans to protect him!
Usually the simplest explanation is the right explanation. There was a serial killer living in London during the Ripper murders who left London at the same time the Ripper murders abruptly stopped. Then very very similar murders started in his new location. He was a doctor experienced with surgical procedures. He murdered and sold organs for profit. There are reports of someone attempting to sell organs during the Ripper murders in the same manner. It seems to be an unpopular theory because The Ripper is so heavily tied to UK lore but in my, probably unpopular opinion, Jack the Ripper seems most likely to actually be American serial killer HH Holmes. HH Holmes was in London during the Ripper killings. HH Holmes left London when the Ripper killings stopped. HH Holmes arrived in Chicago right before the Chicago killings started. HH Holmes was a surgeon. HH Holmes sold organs. There were reports from London medical colleges that an unknown person had attempted to sell them organs. HH Holmes also fits eye witness descriptions although I think most men looked similar back then; who didn’t have a mustache and a hat? Food for thought.
You’re presumably talking about Francis Tumblety? He couldn’t have been the Ripper for several reasons. Firstly, he was a homosexual. Over the years it has been shown that killers with some sexual elements to their murders, as was the case with the Whitechapel murderer, will always target individuals who fulfil their sexual preferences. Tumblety had previously been arrested by the Police for “acts of gross indecency “ with men. He would not have been interested in woman. Secondly, whoever the murderer was, he knew the area well and was able to blend in. At the height of the spree, a foreigner, especially an American with a flamboyant appearance, would have stood out like a sore thumb. The killer was clearly able to approach and inveigle his prey without too much trouble, even in the early hours of the morning. He was probably a familiar figure to the women. Some, or all of them may even have known him, at least by sight. Also, he was able to make his escape despite heavy police patrols. He would have great local knowledge and would have to be local to that area. He must have had a legitimate excuse for being on the streets at the time of the killings.
@MichaelStBede See? I didn't need to watch the video. You know why? Because I can read, and this kind of history is a hobby of mine. You, on the other hand, are having difficulty understanding my very short comment...
There are plenty of others, including a few series. The Charles Lechmere aka Cross ancestry videos are particularly interesting, to me, at least. He walks the routes, checks getaways etc. All JTR related, with an emphasis, but not solely focused on Lechmere.
It's a shame that police investigative methods of the time were sketchy, probably because the women in question held little social value, and the police were rather less concerned than perhaps they should have been...
Very interesting 🤔 thank you for this critical analysis of the apron. I remember hearing about the DNA match at the time and talk about it being discredited, it’s nice to have this laid out clearly.
Does the DNA evidence stand up to scrutiny? Has the case been solved? What do you think? The mainstream media certainly keep falling for it...
Another example of "Betteridge's Law" at work. When a headline (or video title) is phrased as a question, the correct answer is NO.
Not in all my films!
That's the best thing i've learned all week. A law to define something i've always suspected 😂
@Gubalicious The idea is that if the answer was YES, it would be a statement instead of a question. The only time Betteridge's Law fails is headlines like "Are you ready for the holiday shopping season?" or "Are you getting enough potassium in your diet?" The author doesn't know either way. Your shopping might be done and you might eat a banana every day with lunch.
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 it is in general, the rule in the mainstream media. But they don’t have any credibility, having been exposed for being even worse than we thought. You do, therefore people are starting to move over to channels like yours for their information, entertainment and news.
I think a large part is authenticity.
Thanks for saving me.
After passing through that many hands, not kept in a sterile environment, there is no way the Ripper's identity could be had with DNA samples.
Extremely unlikely not impossible tho waybto much interference to actually trust the results
You could never rule out cross contamination from any off the items collected at this time.
Russell Edwards should have been charged with wasting police time and resources, nevermind the distress he put the family of Keith Bennett through.
I think he's a con artist and a narcissist.
Please don't ever stop making videos.
Its like Christmas when i get the notification you've released a video.
Same here. 👍
And me
You need to get out more
Dude! This was an AMAZING documentary about this topic. I just happened to come across this channel as a result of a random search for true crime on TH-cam and this popped up. I watched it and it was fantastic. I have seen both documentaries you mentioned, but with the shawl evidence one I, too, was skeptical and I'm not a Ripperologist. I just have a fascination with the case. Anyway, your impeccable research and your delivery of the research has given you a new subscriber from across the pond! Well done!
Thank you, Mr. Stow for this insightful documentary into the Jack The Ripper case. I look forward to future content.
Thank you
Ed, your channel is criminally underrated. As far as I'm concerned you are the foremost Ripperologist. Your videos have completely changed the way that I think about this case and shown that it is a much more complex mystery than i ever thought.
kiss his azz more ,why not?❤
@@JohnnyDanger36963
Indeed why not
Since watched your first episode Mr Stow, till the day I die, I cannot watch nor bear to observe anyone else’s explanation from “their” investigation.
And there are some starting to crop up now with “Lechmere”.
Aussie of English ancestry here. Love your work.
Seems to me, that no matter what DNA is found on the "Shawl", it cannot be used as proof of anything due to it's lack of known chain of custody....?
Inn law yes but due to its age it could theoretically be solved but no one will go to court for it
There are two types of proofs, “beyond reasonable doubt” and “the preponderance of the evidence”.
Let’s face it, no one will ever solve the case using the standard “beyond reasonable doubt”.
With regards the “preponderance of the evidence”, then Aaron Kosminski has got to be the #1 suspect, due to several very strong pieces of evidence not even taking the DNA into account. The mitochondrial DNA may have low probability when looking at the total uk population, but when you apply the probability to a sample size of some 10-20 identified suspects and you get a match, then the probability of that is several million to one.
@nfldshorty21 No it cannot be solved with all the contamination. The very idea is ludicrous.
@@lyndoncmp5751 Every day, contaminated evidence is accepted by the courts, through ruling out other sources. For example: A man buys a gun from a black market dealer. He then uses the gun in an armed robbery. After the robbery he flees the scene and throws the gun away. An old lady finds the gun in some bushes and pick it up. She then goes to the police and hands it in. The policeman at reception touches the gun and hands it over to the the detective, who in turn hands it over to forensics. The forensic expert takes finger prints and finds 7 unique finger prints on it. Everyone will agree that the fingerprint evidence is contaminated. However detective work can rule out 6 of the 7 fingerprints thus solving the crime. Forensic Mitochondrial DNA cannot be used to positively identify the suspect BUT it can be used to rule out other suspects. S YES it can be used to solve a crime!!!
(Not so) fun fact is that even H. H. Holmes who is known to be US first serial Killer was a possible suspect as he was in London during that time. So even if he wasn't the Jack the Ripper it is even more creepy that that means you would have 2 of the most horrific serial killers of all time walking around in London.
@@boraonline7036 He also left London at the time the Ripper murders stopped. His son is absolutely convinced he was Jack the Ripper.
@tarapapacek7731
Jack The Ripper was almost certainly a nondescript local man with intimate knowledge of the area and all the back alleys and streets, even probably the police beats.
Masterful. Your work is head and shoulders above anything currently being produced. Well done chap.
Another cracking episode Ed. Well done mate.
I’m so glad I discovered your work! I believe you are right that one reason the allure of Jack the Ripper continues is that he was never identified or apprehended. While the Golden State Killer may not be as mythological, he held California in his grip for decades. Once he was caught and details about him were revealed, interest in the case diminished.
Even if you could prove without a shadow of a doubt that this shawl belonged to a Jack the Ripper victim I dont think DNA found on her clothes could 100% be attributed to the killer. Firstly, people didnt have lots of clothes and Im sure she didnt change her clothes daily. Theres likely to be stains and DNA from many days of wear on her clothes. So even putting aside the police and every other person to handle this shawl after her death, there is likely more then one persons DNA on her clothes. Did she meet with more then one man while wearing it? Did she loan it to another woman? We wouldnt know, but Id say chances are good that we will not find Jack the Rippers DNA this way.
Brilliant video Ed once again. I have recently had to open a new facebook page as my old one got hacked. I have tried to rejoin the ripper page (on Facebook) monitored by our Kosminski friend and been rejected. lol I wonder why. 😁 shame really because I really enjoyed interacting with like minded people who share an interest with all the JTR. Anyways, keep up the great work 🙌🏼
If you mean the one run by Tom, I suggest you message him and explain.
New accounts often get rejected.
@ I have done.
I noticed your Facebook went defunct!
@declined from the group once again. I have no idea why? The only conclusion I can come up with is because I believe Lechmere was Jack the Ripper. So much for an opinion and open debate on the page Steve. Very disappointing and very unprofessional.
Three minutes in and evidently some senior police officer had said 'yeah sure, take it home as a souvenir' - sounds most improbable to me, even in those times.
Anyhow, i'll keep watching and see how it all unfolds.
Yeah it's a nonsense claim.
The problem with the DNA on the shall/scarf is that the guy who tested it was given restrictions in what he could do. When the tests were done it was not put up for peer review and this is important for the outcome. Peers did review it and it failed every peer review as they all found flaws in many different areas.
Great video Mr.Stow..I see a documentary on this a few years back and I have to say I wasn’t convinced..Still been good to hear your view on this DNA episode..
Love the video. The depth of your dedication to research is outstanding, thank you so much for your hard work.
My pleasure!
Yes, the depth of your research is very impressive, sir. The people who have in their blood "Jack the Ripper" are as fascinating as the Ripper case itself.
Short answer; No.
Long answer; DNA has not solved the mystery.
"The black museum is not allowed to regular members of the public"😮.....Well now I must see it!
The thing you want to see at the Black Museum has nothing to do with Jack the Ripper. There is a pair of binoculars there that was sent to a teenage girl on her birthday. She started to raise it to her eyes then for some reason didn't. Her father picked it up to adjust the focus and two long, sharp spikes came out. To this day, over a hundred years later, nobody knows who the anonymous sender was. Thinking of the mind who could fashion such things and what it might have gone on to do gives me more chills than Jack the Ripper.
Excellent video as always Edward! Thank you for bringing this one love it! ❤
My pleasure!
My eyes lit up when I saw you have another post, thank you for all your hard work, am looking forward to your next video, I think it has been proved that Kominski was discluded.
Love the lighting whilst in front of the olde newspaper. And all the researched facts. One of the best.
Thank you
Your TH-cam channel was what spawned my interest. I hadn’t given it any thought until one of your videos popped up in my suggestions. Great content.
People constantly destroy things if they can get a souvenir. It’s why so many historical sights have to be protected from stupid tourists and visitors.
Literally what people did to the fabric of Jesus himself, Elvis' clothing and scarves.
Once again, Mr Stow employs good, solid research matched with common sense reasoning to debunk another dodgy Ripper theory. Brilliantly done.
I am a direct decent of Mary Ann Nichols so as you can imagine I’m most interested in everything to do with the case.I enjoyed listening to your theory’s I’m still on the fence but where all definitely closer than we have ever been
Very interesting
Were no family stories passed down to you?
I have been to Happy Days for fish and chips. Highly recommend going and having a bite to eat and viewing the JTR themed artwork.
We will never know who Jack the Ripper was.
*Scotland Yard knew who it was. They actually invented the 'Jack the Ripper' character to cover their own rear ends because they were in his room, looked through his stuff, had his name, etc- and he got away from them. This kind of thing has been going on as long as bureaucracies have been failing.*
No they never knew who it was for certain they at top made assumptions but they weren't even police either met or city chiefs were not serving officers in those days
@@mpol701 *Scotland Yard knew. They created 'the Ripper' legend to cover their own incompetence.*
@thetruthchannel349 no they didn't so tell me who is it then?
@@mpol701😂😂 you are this old and haven't figured it out yet? 🤣🤣
Putting aside the questionable provenance of the shaw, as a retired crime scene investigator, I need to point out that the presence of the suspect's DNA on the victim's shaw only indicates the victim's shaw and the suspect, or something with his DNA on it, were in physical contact at some point. Giving the victim's occupation, this DNA information has limited value due to its ability to be easily transferred from object to object. DNA, on its own, does not prove guilt! It only points to a possible line of investigation. All the facts surrounding a case must be considered.
With that much handling later DNA would be of little use as the DNA found would be of multiple samples, and not acceptable as evidence.
Another WONDERFUL video!! Your research is second to none, and ALL your videos are just so interesting and informative!! Thank you so much Mr.Stow!! CANNOT WAIT FOR THE NEXT ONE!!!
So nice of you
Thanks Edward, for another remarkable, meticulous and detailed analysis of the facts as always..Cheers.
Many thanks!
Brilliantly informative and entertaining, as always!
Glad you enjoyed it!
“Dubious” I think is the operative word here …
I’ve watched it twice now and it appears that the only proven facts are :-
1. Eddowes was murdered in Mitre Square on 30/9/1888
2. Amos Simpson was a Metropolitan police officer who lived in Cheshunt.
The rest is like me pointing out that Eddowes is “almost” an anagram of Ed Stow.
Congratulations Edward , on another excellent expose’.
Ha - I hadn't noticed that about Eddowes
This is a brilliant and ( imo ) fair and balanced destruction of the DNA research /“ evidence “ rendering it utterly useless . That the provenance of the shawl was also as shady as a Nigerian email nicely sums up Russell Edwards and his book for what he is . A businessman , a carpet bagger and opportunist.
As always , Ed, great video👏👏💜
Another excellent video ed,thank you
Very welcome
Really excellent. No one else comes close to looking for actual evidence. Keep up the good work.
I am impressed on how you have presented this. It takes a lot for me to listen till the end. Well done.
Really interesting and informative. Thanks for putting in the legwork and brain power 👍🏽
My pleasure!
On that russel fellas page you can't even question him on things or doubt his conclusion he boots you off his page I bet he's fuming with this outstanding video 😂😂😂
Another Turin Shroud. The depth of analysis and research in this film is excellent.
Thank you Edward, will watch over the weekend 👍
I hate self pronounced scientists who ly for their own importance and then cowardly shy away from confrontation. What a jerk. He should be sued for distorting historic truths.
Scientists aren't paid to tell the truth, are they?
You are very thorough and informative. Good watch.
Glad you think so!
About a year or so ago I had a Genealogical DNA I was born and raised in England as also were my parents. The result was 46%, English then a mixture of Welsh, Irish, Swedish. I was born and raised in England as also my Parents. I did have 1 Great Grandmother who had some Irish blood, but in so far in my research I haven't traced her and family back to Ireland.
Question: my brother thought Jack the Ripper was the King. I have seen your other video's on the subject but that was a few years ago. I'm 82 years old now so my memory is not so good anymore. I'm glad your post came up on YT today.
Thorough analysis. Well presented as always. Keep up the great work Edward.
Much appreciated!
So Jack the Ripper ran all the way from Berner Street to Mitre Square with a roll of carpet under his arm!
Ha
Good one 😅
😂😂😂😂😂
Was fabric so valuable that someone would take a blood-soaked shawl simply because his wife might want to reuse it in a dress? 😮
Silk, yes
My gran used to make dresses out of old parachute silks.
It would feel creepy to me to have clothing someone died in, even more if someone was murdered while wearing it.
@tom1644x yes, I presume that's why his wife didn't want to use it.
Your videos get better and better.
Keep up the good work.
I appreciate that!
Always interesting to watch by the foremost Ripper historian in our generation
Man, when they catch him, he'll be really old when he gets out of prison
As always excellent research, very thorough. All this really adds to the interest in this subject, it really is a bigger subject than most people realise isn't it?
Huge!
Wel, the short answer is no. And the long answer is nooooooooooooo.
😄😆 Thanks for that one Dad. 👍
Do we? Not beyond reasonable doubt
Excellent episode Ed - well researched and very informative
A question mark after a statement on TH-cam usually comes to nothing.
WAS THE PYRAMIDS really ALIENS??!! its always the same clickbait bullshit. Theres never any conclusion its just for ad revenue.
This is exactly how I found your channel, Edward. It began with the books and then the internet.
Everything else aside, I find it impossible to believe that if Simpson was present in Mitre Square (highly unlikely) that a senior officer would have allowed him to remove vital evidence from a crime scene simply because Simpson wanted it for his wife's dressmaking. Tosh!!
There was a "shawl" recovered after the Eddowes murder. Not in Mitre Square, I don't remember the exact location right off, but in the area. The shawl was covered in blood, and was known to belong to Eddowes. Assumption has always been that Jack used it to wipe the blood from his blade, and then discarded it. Only real evidence from that shawl is that it showed the direction that Jack traveled after the murder...which was back into White Chapel. Now, as you mentioned, a senior law enforcement official just giving that away to someone is nonsense.
@ thanks. I stand corrected.
There was no shawl recovered, there no evidence of that at all, hence this video no evidence of shawl and this item isn't even a shawl
The shawl in this film was believe to be from the ripper not Eddiowes, there was a piece if apron found though
As a Collectables/ Antiques dealer Sadly I can confirm that there are dealers who do cut up items & destroy books put things in frames. This increases profits by increasing sales
Once again, brilliant in depth research from Mr Stow.
Thank you
Jack the Ripper isn't dead, he works at my local Dry Cleaners. I sent a jacket to be dry cleaned, it come back with the linings in the sleeves ripped, the pocket corners torn & 2 buttons missing and yes you guessed it the gravy stains on the lapels were still there! (sarcasm)
Not funny.
@@TheRedDevil-1968 Those that lack a sense of humour will never be able to solve this intriguing case, as humour requires a High IQ just like detective work
Sounds more like Edward Scissorhands.
@@panderson9561 nah he works at the sushi bar as a chef
The only certain thing is the Ripper probably will never be conclusively identified.
It was Lechmere, or someone very much like him. Someone working the slaughterhouses, meat markets, someone people were used to seeing everyday (Cartman), with a leather apron normally covered in blood, and seemed unassuming and fits into the background.
Painter Richard Sickert is Jack. His paintings are like the crime scenes. His models are the spitting image of the corpses. The paintings are like Polaroids to relive the crime. Also a doodle by the ripper (known only by the cops) showed up in a seaside registry signed by Richard Sickert.
Damn really? Is he the one who did the Jack the Ripper's Bedroom ? Also not being sarcastic or anything at all but where did you hear/ read about the doodle? That's fascinating and would love to look into that more. I always thought it was Lechmere or Kosminski like most people do ( and I wouldn't consider myself a Ripperologist by any means lol)
Who is Richard Sickert ??
The alter ego of Walter Sickert it seems 🐈⬛@@beastlychap
Usually known as Walter, was a painter of very creepy works. Check him out.
I think it was Richard Sickert also because of the paintings he did at the time great video.
Excellent video, topnotch research!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Maybe the real Ripper was the friends we made along the way?
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shutupp BOT!
The provenance of the Turin shroud and the identity of Jack the Ripper should keep me going in my retirement.
throw in amelia earhart... keep several lifetimes in money
This video and the channel show the power of evidence and thorough research. I don't know who JTR was but it was more likely Lechemere as he can placed at the scene of one murder.
Excellent, balanced, fact based approach as always. Top Job.
For DNA to identify Jack the ripper would mean that an absolute scientific and medical miracle happened back in the day when he committed the crimes and they actually found his blood or his DNA or something on his victims which I have never heard was the case.
Everyone knows it was Boris Johnston !
This video could be titled "Why the CSI Effect is a Problem".
This is really interesting. Really enjoyed the film!
Well researched as always.
If DNA evidence has solved the case then we’d know. Wouldn’t we.
Go to 10 mins to understand why
Excellent video as always Ed!
Glad you enjoyed it!
We have our own author Edwards (Dan) perverting the records of history here in the US involving Billy the Kid. We need someone as thorough, passionate and exacting as you to preserve our history. The UK is lucky to have you.
Your videos are always thorough and well done. You could easily expand to another channel of reviewing other famous cases, and write books too. There are plenty of good TH-cam channels on the True Crime subject. I always liked Bad Things True Crime. But of course, there are so many achingly bad channels, a good one would stand out.
Good idea!
Cannot imagine any of the Ripper victims owning a silk shawl. Or a silk anything. 😒
That is actually possible because ladies of that time were full of 'good works' and used to donate all their used clothing to charities. It was very a very fashionable pursuit in those days. Many of these items ended up in second-hand/rag and bone shops which Whitechapel had in droves. That being said, there is no chain of evidence for this particular item. Firstly, it is unlikely in the extreme that a bobby on the beat would be allowed to keep a souvenir from the crime scene, the belongings of Eddowes in the Coroner's report were inventoried very narrowly and NO shawl was mentioned. Lastly, mitochondrial DNA is strictly from the female line and does not change no matter how many generations have passed, so it could be from ANY female antecedent - maybe from people who do not even know they are related from ages ago. For example, my first cousins from my uncle would seem to be in no way related to me just using mitochondrial DNA, yet someone whom I have never heard of, in Australia maybe, could be seen as a close relative if someone had been Transported 200 years ago.
Another job well done! Thank you for this!
Thank you too!
The DNA doesnt matter because so many people touched it w ungloved hands. So its impossible to say 100% who committed the crime. Tbey might get an idea but not 100%.
WOW! These Ripperologists are vicious with each other - not unlike Jack the Ripper with his victims. . . It's lucky that Edward has all we fans to protect him!
Nope. They don’t have any usable dna from the ripper cases
Excellent analysis of the publicity seekers dubious claim!
Thanks for all these details. I hadn't known them.
Happy to help!
Usually the simplest explanation is the right explanation. There was a serial killer living in London during the Ripper murders who left London at the same time the Ripper murders abruptly stopped. Then very very similar murders started in his new location. He was a doctor experienced with surgical procedures. He murdered and sold organs for profit. There are reports of someone attempting to sell organs during the Ripper murders in the same manner. It seems to be an unpopular theory because The Ripper is so heavily tied to UK lore but in my, probably unpopular opinion, Jack the Ripper seems most likely to actually be American serial killer HH Holmes. HH Holmes was in London during the Ripper killings. HH Holmes left London when the Ripper killings stopped. HH Holmes arrived in Chicago right before the Chicago killings started. HH Holmes was a surgeon. HH Holmes sold organs. There were reports from London medical colleges that an unknown person had attempted to sell them organs. HH Holmes also fits eye witness descriptions although I think most men looked similar back then; who didn’t have a mustache and a hat? Food for thought.
You’re presumably talking about Francis Tumblety?
He couldn’t have been the Ripper for several reasons. Firstly, he was a homosexual. Over the years it has been shown that killers with some sexual elements to their murders, as was the case with the Whitechapel murderer, will always target individuals who fulfil their sexual preferences. Tumblety had previously been arrested by the Police for “acts of gross indecency “ with men. He would not have been interested in woman.
Secondly, whoever the murderer was, he knew the area well and was able to blend in. At the height of the spree, a foreigner, especially an American with a flamboyant appearance, would have stood out like a sore thumb. The killer was clearly able to approach and inveigle his prey without too much trouble, even in the early hours of the morning. He was probably a familiar figure to the women. Some, or all of them may even have known him, at least by sight.
Also, he was able to make his escape despite heavy police patrols.
He would have great local knowledge and would have to be local to that area.
He must have had a legitimate excuse for being on the streets at the time of the killings.
We don't need any foreign suspects brought it.
Jack The Ripper was almost certainly a nondescript local man. Charles Lechmere.
@ not conclusive but most likely thus far
@@lyndoncmp5751 No foreign suspects being “brought in”
This theory has has been active since the 1800s when HH Holmes was caught.
There's something quite striking about all those ghouls clamouring around the shawl of that poor woman. 😢
It wasn't her shawl. I don't believe it was even a shawl.
I haven't even watched the video, and already I can tell you that, no, DNA hasn't solved the Jack the Ripper case. 😂
And if you had watched the video you would have noted the presented came to the same view.
@MichaelStBede See? I didn't need to watch the video. You know why? Because I can read, and this kind of history is a hobby of mine. You, on the other hand, are having difficulty understanding my very short comment...
@@audiofile8833 And you are an arrogant fool.
Very interesting, and well researched. From across the pond , South Carolina. 😊
Glad you enjoyed it!
I came across your video by accident and I am pleased I did, A very interesting watch and nicely done!
There are plenty of others, including a few series. The Charles Lechmere aka Cross ancestry videos are particularly interesting, to me, at least.
He walks the routes, checks getaways etc. All JTR related, with an emphasis, but not solely focused on Lechmere.
I didn't want this to end!! I'm going to watch again from the beginning. Awesome content 👏
It's a shame that police investigative methods of the time were sketchy, probably because the women in question held little social value, and the police were rather less concerned than perhaps they should have been...
It's a shame the Gilgo Beach killer in our generation was still killing the same types of women, and police were still less than concerned.
Very interesting 🤔 thank you for this critical analysis of the apron. I remember hearing about the DNA match at the time and talk about it being discredited, it’s nice to have this laid out clearly.
My pleasure!
Another top vid, great research ED
Thanks again!
Very thorough job, once again. That pic of Amos Simpson scares me more than JTR.
Think he's a vampire?
How can anyone stand about outside a fish & chip shop, and not buy at least a bag of chips ? lol