What Was It Like To Live In Mary Kelly's Room After Her Murder?

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  • In this video we hear from those people who came to live in Mary Kelly's room, 13 Miller's Court, in the years after her murder there on the 9th of November, 1888.
    Reporters from newspapers in the UK and America, as well as several authors, we fascinated by what it must have been like to live in the very room inside which Jack the Ripper carried out his most gruesome atrocity.
    Consequently, at various stages between 1888 and 1928, when Miller's Court was demolished, newspaper articles appeared for which various journalists had visited the room to interview the tenants.
    Allowing for embellishment - both by the residents and by the reporters - those articles provide an intriguing glimpse into life at 13 Miller's Court after the murder had taken place there.

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  • @bessofhardwick9311
    @bessofhardwick9311 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +192

    Very interesting. I've never heard any of this information before. The idea that subsequent tenants not only lived there with the gore from the murder still around them, but even capitalised on it just goes to show how dark life must have been for people on the edge of society in those days.

    • @Kat_._.44
      @Kat_._.44 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      Oh I’m pretty sure that some people of today would pay a lot of money to sleep in this room, if they had the chance..so, nothing have changed much

    • @colincharlton9339
      @colincharlton9339 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Life was cheap then, so, when a room was available it was rented out, even today , people have been murdered/ died in houses/ hotels etc..I lived in a place where it was built on a plague pit, scottish battle with the English..

    • @jenniferlloyd9574
      @jenniferlloyd9574 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      ​@@colincharlton9339
      As we can see, life is cheap now. More people than ever swarming this planet and nothing has changed.

    • @greywebs1944
      @greywebs1944 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      ​@@colincharlton9339Life was cheap then ? Most of them lived in squalor or were begging on the streets. And the conditions they lived and worked in was atrocious. Children at very young age were doing countless hours in awful surroundings. No health & safety why so many died at work. And diseases were no escape for anybody. I for one am glad I wasn't around then.

    • @donkeyhanger
      @donkeyhanger 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Still today .Mankind is Garbage

  • @George_L-w7o
    @George_L-w7o 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +171

    Another outstanding job. Mr. Jones has the most comforting and warm voice. Best narrator I’ve ever heard. He needs to do more. A true talent.

    • @wattyler2994
      @wattyler2994 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      His voice is like a fine cider consumed on a lazy summers day while watching a game of cricket 🏏

    • @merseywhogirl3430
      @merseywhogirl3430 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      I agree, wonderful voice with a soothing cadence!!

    • @quicksilver2510
      @quicksilver2510 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He could easily slip into Thomas the Tank Engine narration 😅

    • @dylbesley918
      @dylbesley918 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's not AI ? I thought it's all AI now...

    • @marilynbrown5274
      @marilynbrown5274 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@wattyler2994 Well put!

  • @JuliaKapp
    @JuliaKapp 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +156

    Poor Mary Kelly. I know some people think she was "just a prostitute " no loss no important.
    Please remember those women were human beings. They were somebody's daughter, somebody's sister. Sometimes they were some one's wife or mother too. No one should die like that! It shouldn't be a form of amusement 😢

    • @Laura-tp8wz
      @Laura-tp8wz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Spot on!

    • @susanmacdonald4288
      @susanmacdonald4288 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      I saw a documentary once that interviewed some of the descendents of these women. And it really brought home that yes, they were actual women that had families, and had better lives than the ones they were living when they died. I believe that you can find some of their graves...if I ever get to England, I'd like to take flowers for them.

    • @johnhurley4700
      @johnhurley4700 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Jack was amused.

    • @angelwalker979
      @angelwalker979 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      There's a book called The Five, about the women that were murdered by Jack the ripper, it's fascinating, highly recommend if you're a reader.

    • @mimig6511
      @mimig6511 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Absolutely agree. Who knows why she had to resort to prostitution....as many did. Someone loved Mary. I think we can all be respectful to the women murdered.

  • @36RChris
    @36RChris 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +89

    Imagine for a moment that 13 Miller’s Court had never been demolished and still stood today along with 29 Hanbury Street and Dutfield’s Yard. How much would you pay to visit these places if they had been kept and preserved as a memorial to these poor women? Probably wrong I know to profit from these gruesome murders, but I would pay good money to visit these places today and see them with my own eyes, my imagination alone doesn’t seem to be enough to satisfy my morbid fascination of these crimes.

    • @geecee4746
      @geecee4746 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Absolutely agree

    • @jamesquaid2544
      @jamesquaid2544 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Yes, I'm in New Zealand, but would make the trip, the fascination with Jack has been life long.

    • @Idol76
      @Idol76 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Yup,the Lizzie Borden house makes some pretty good money i'm sure.It's just fascinating being exactly where something happened a long time ago.

    • @kellyshomemadekitchen
      @kellyshomemadekitchen 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@Idol76
      Macabre but very true!

    • @donkeyhanger
      @donkeyhanger 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Million dollars

  • @susanpage8315
    @susanpage8315 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +79

    I had family that lived in East London during JTR’s murders. It must have been terrifying.

    • @YoungMarkGoldbridge
      @YoungMarkGoldbridge 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i mean, are you a prostitute? if not then you have nothing to be scared about

    • @rodgerhargoon3402
      @rodgerhargoon3402 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Until they flew to one of their colonies and became lord and ladies overnight .far cry from their 2 penny doss houses.....😂😂😂😂

    • @thefreedomguyuk
      @thefreedomguyuk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Well, we all had ancestors living through dark times, innit' 😊

    • @thefreedomguyuk
      @thefreedomguyuk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      ​@@rodgerhargoon3402Wasn't how it worked. The rich established overseas plantations, and got even richer. Just like today !😊

    • @KioskKrew
      @KioskKrew 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@rodgerhargoon3402Idiotic comment

  • @bendavies8881
    @bendavies8881 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    The critical point to take away from this, is that a lot of people tried to capitalize on the murder, both afterwards, and when the investigation was ongoing. It is crucial to keep that in mind, when evaluating every witness.

    • @64HomeMade
      @64HomeMade 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'd agree even the very name and the letter from 'Jack the Ripper were created by the newspapers, nothing like sensationalism to generate sales. Equally the idea that all these women were prostitutes. Homeless alcoholics for sure, for instance Mary Chapman was an educated lady living on the Royal Windsor Estate with her own maid and carage. She had a loving husband, children but just couldn't fight her desire for drink, people forget they were human beings.

    • @joycegibbs5267
      @joycegibbs5267 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      the Ripper never existed. It was a myth. The birth of the tabloid.

    • @randymillhouse791
      @randymillhouse791 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@joycegibbs5267 Another Trump fan I see.

    • @Fragmented1436
      @Fragmented1436 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@randymillhouse791rent free.. 😂

    • @jenniferk.7023
      @jenniferk.7023 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@randymillhouse791 ypu people are so obsessed with Trump. 😂

  • @GradKat
    @GradKat 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +153

    I love the terms “crone” and “old hag” used to describe a desperately poor old woman, who was trying to make a few extra shillings from exhibiting a murder scene. If the writer had visited a stately home, and its occupant, a dowager duchess, had shown him a place where one of her illustrious ancestors had, say, been stabbed to death, I doubt he would have been so dismissive and condemnatory.

    • @kellyshomemadekitchen
      @kellyshomemadekitchen 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      I agree and would bet you are exactly right!

    • @Thronewatcher
      @Thronewatcher 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's England all over for you and it's still like that to this day. Biggest thing holding this nation back is the class divider

    • @naelyneurkopfen9741
      @naelyneurkopfen9741 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The wealthy woman could afford clothes, food etc., that would have helped maintain her appearance, while the the poor could not, therefore, she looked like a crone/old hag. It will hold true today. I'm headed for "cronedom".😂

    • @randymillhouse791
      @randymillhouse791 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      "Slatternly." I had to look that word up. The dialogue flows in this one, eh?

    • @superbuu666
      @superbuu666 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She could have been both of those things and it was an accurate description.

  • @hb11912
    @hb11912 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    My late father as a boy in the 1930’s, used to travel on the train from Birmingham to London to visit his grandmother who lived in the Whitechapel area and he would often say how it looked exactly the same as it did in the 1880’s. He said it would give him the creeps with the stone cobbled streets and dimly lit alleyways, and he could imagine Jack The Ripper still getting around.

  • @wattyler2994
    @wattyler2994 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    I wonder if any subsequent tenants experienced any supernatural feelings or visions in the following years. Must have been a real nightmare for any unfortunate..

    • @bio-plasmictoad5311
      @bio-plasmictoad5311 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Why not, other hauntings have been caused by way less.

    • @paulmilner8452
      @paulmilner8452 หลายเดือนก่อน

      oh here we go, look if ghosts were real don't you thnk every single home would be haunted not a select few, murders have happened since 400 AD in Britain ..... thats alot of land with so called bad energy , yet everywhere i've been including so called haunted pubs has not felt any bad omen to me, paranoid people believe in ghosts

  • @davesmith7432
    @davesmith7432 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    Wow! What an interesting and sad story. I wasn’t surprised about 13 being empty for a time. But I thought it would have been at least painted by McCarthy. And the same bed?! But I’m not surprised some poor people decided they cared more about not being homeless than the stains on the wall. And managed to profit from it. Ghastly but smart. Great job on this Richard!

    • @slicksnewonenow
      @slicksnewonenow 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Forget the stains on the wall... Imagine that gross mattress.
      I'm willing to bet that it was the same one.

    • @nielszindel1151
      @nielszindel1151 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I doubt it was the same bed, the landlord seemed a decent enough man. Delia Morris

    • @baraxor
      @baraxor หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@nielszindel1151 Allegedly McCarthy burned the bed and otherwise destroyed the other furnishings in Mary Kelly's room. There was probably a feeling of tempting bad luck at making a profit from poor Mary's horrible end.

  • @RobertAller-s9z
    @RobertAller-s9z 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    Outstanding! What I love about these postings is how they flesh out details and accounts that would otherwise be sadly forgotten. New detail is more satisfying than a rehash adding nothing. These posts are always rewarding. BRAVO!

  • @Englishroserebecca
    @Englishroserebecca หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I went on a Jack the Ripper tour in London recently. The guide told us how the young girls would come from Ireland to try and get a job in London to send money home to their families. A gang would pick them up as soon as they arrived and move them into a block of grotty flats where they housed all the girls. Then they made them be prostitutes. They never let them keep the money and couldn’t get a boat back home. It was horrendous what happened to them.

    • @bilindalaw-morley161
      @bilindalaw-morley161 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yes, sex trafficking has probably existed since humans first lived. It's said prostitution is the world's oldest profession.

  • @laurelvize6269
    @laurelvize6269 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    I did wonder if there was any hauntings there. Such a horrific murder.

    • @CzechMirco
      @CzechMirco 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      No, because there is no such thing as haughting. Anywhere. EVER.

    • @aileyaddams
      @aileyaddams หลายเดือนก่อน

      That would be interesting to hear about! The sharing of ghost stories is sometimes the only record of long ago people and places that would otherwise be forgotten. In addition to the entertainment provided by ghostly tales, there is often a factual historical background that is well worth learning about.
      But, then again, my people are Appalachian and we tend to revere our ancestors, opting to keep them alive in spirit, even if no longer in the flesh.

  • @xx_blasphemer_xx8148
    @xx_blasphemer_xx8148 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    All I can say is that I hope she is at peace. RIP.

  • @mikki3961
    @mikki3961 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    Imagine profiting like that from a horrific murder, gleefully! Poor Mary Kelly, she was a human being.

    • @DoctorBastard
      @DoctorBastard 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      People have a curiosity about these things, I've worked with bodies and invariably get questioned about it if I make mention of it.

    • @hellooohowareudoing
      @hellooohowareudoing 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      People are interested in such things, that's evidenced by the fact we're all watching videos about it even now, and of course people pay to go on the tours etc. It may be done more tastefully these days but it's still done for profit.

    • @valeriecronin6772
      @valeriecronin6772 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Was thinking the same thing. RIP Mary. 😢

    • @nvw2978
      @nvw2978 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      If you were ridiculously poor like these people, then you might of done the same who knows.

    • @RobertaReal7980
      @RobertaReal7980 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Los Angeles has Dearly Departed Tours & others like it.

  • @chrisdavid1410
    @chrisdavid1410 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    Outstanding work. Interesting about the bloodstained hand on the wall. Having seen the crime scene pictures there does seen to be a handprint on the wall.

    • @davekeating.
      @davekeating. 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      The police would never miss a bloodied hand print. Later tenants could have smeared the room with anything and claimed, “There’s the blood of Mary Kelly.”

    • @ericpode6095
      @ericpode6095 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@davekeating.That was my thoughts. A bit more interesting for their visitors than some faded blood stains.

    • @100Mickl
      @100Mickl 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Wonder if they collected any blood could probably trade relatives to JTR through DNA then work backwards to identify him

    • @adelerodriguez2432
      @adelerodriguez2432 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@100Micklthey DID identify him. He was an Austrian Orthodox Jew and a butcher. A woman was found to be a familial match. She was horrified.

    • @Uapa500
      @Uapa500 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@100Mickl they try every now and then, but I'm not sure how actually that can be possible.
      Also, sometimes I'm not sure they wanted to find him.

  • @debbiejames3096
    @debbiejames3096 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    If that room was still there, would you go see it? I would!

  • @lexiwilson9501
    @lexiwilson9501 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Fantastic video, I was engrossed with the rather macabre history of Marie Kelly's house.

  • @Oakleaf700
    @Oakleaf700 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Fascinating to hear and see those contemporary photos and accounts.

  • @petejones879
    @petejones879 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    One of the Rippers victims.. Originated from my home town Wolverhampton

    • @Ste1981-fy2lw
      @Ste1981-fy2lw 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Indeed. Catherine Eddowes was from Merridale Street, Graisley Green.

    • @adelerodriguez2432
      @adelerodriguez2432 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Are any family members still in the area?

    • @joycegibbs5267
      @joycegibbs5267 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Ste1981-fy2lwthat’s really interesting !

  • @TotemCrow
    @TotemCrow 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    Read the book *The Five* about the backgrounds and childhoods of the five women who were JTR victims and you will understand why others would seek to make money from their deaths. They lived very basically and if there was no husband life was extremely difficult. Many would find a man, even one who beat them up, as it was better than being on their own. If a chance came along to make something to ease their lives then they would take it.

    • @adelerodriguez2432
      @adelerodriguez2432 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      They were probably rough women who could kick ass.

    • @pds1
      @pds1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have it and is the best book I've read about the conical 5.

    • @Zeneyez
      @Zeneyez 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@adelerodriguez2432You should read The Five by Hallie Rubenhold. It’s about the women’s lives, not their cowardly killer.

    • @Zeneyez
      @Zeneyez 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@pds1The word you’re looking for is ‘canonical’. Conical means cone shaped.

    • @davekeating.
      @davekeating. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The chapter on Mary Kelly must be very short. What we know about Mary Kelly prior to her death is zilch. No official record of her name, age, place of birth, marriage. Yes, Irish heritage but that’s about it. Everything else, is second hand; what she supposedly told others. My guess is she came from a Limerick based, extended Irish gypsy traveller family with links to England, Wales, Scotland, and God only knows were else, France? Hence, her good looks, ability to sing, dance, and relieve one of their money as quick as they could say, Jack Robinson…

  • @celestenova777
    @celestenova777 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Great video, never heard that about the number 51 before, thanks for upload, quite fascinating.

  • @LucasLucas-ne4xs
    @LucasLucas-ne4xs 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Excellent narration as we have come accustomed to. Thank you Mr. Jones.
    I never heard the term 'Murderland' before. Ominous but quite befitting.

  • @blrenx
    @blrenx 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Good to see you back Richard.. I had no idea how small Millers court was. I would need to walk sideways just to get in the court. That gives me perspective on the size of the actual room. It must have been smaller than a modern bedroom. People were passing within five ft of the body. Something I also find interesting is the fact that the public knew how valuable objects connected to Jack the Ripper and Millers court were. That gives me hope there is more Objects out there. I'm sure the objects were passed down by family. Until it reach someone that has no Idea what they have... Well I can hope.. Right?

    • @jplonsdale7242
      @jplonsdale7242 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You could be right

  • @alboe2092
    @alboe2092 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    This is one of my favourite videos you’ve released in a quite a while! Very interesting hearing a direct, on location report of what is now quite a mythical/mysterious place

  • @suzykins6666
    @suzykins6666 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Enjoyed this very much ! Thank you!

  • @Tsumami__
    @Tsumami__ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I wonder if they were so strict about officers not escorting people into the Whitechapel area because the Great and the good didn’t want anyone visiting London to see how horrid the lower classes were left to live in poverty and filth. Because frankly it’s shameful that so many people in that city were forced to live in such vile conditions while the landed gentry lived comfy in huge estates.

    • @johnreed8336
      @johnreed8336 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Not much different from today with the extreme disparity in income and quality of life . Some things never change . It was only with the introduction of the NHS that work houses ended and that was in 1948 . Not that long ago .

    • @paulmilner8452
      @paulmilner8452 หลายเดือนก่อน

      so ignorant, it happens today ffs, kensington in philadelphia is a shit show, many more places in the UK too and USA

    • @forlornhope7121
      @forlornhope7121 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Or in streets not so far away

  • @-Reagan
    @-Reagan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    This was extremely interesting - you never cease to amaze me with all the things you dig up! Lovely piece of historical documentation you’ve compiled. It really captures a picture of the place in the era.

  • @GradKat
    @GradKat 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Good grief! Who would want to live in that sordid hovel, after what had gone on before?

    • @matthewjames206
      @matthewjames206 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Remember, this area was incredibly impoverished back then. As morbid as it was, it still provided shelter.

    • @darlenekorson3716
      @darlenekorson3716 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Very poor people that had no where else to go. They were intelligent enough to know they could make money on that horrid place because they knew people with money would pay to ogle it.

    • @mah3223alia
      @mah3223alia 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Very poor people

    • @bronzin1445
      @bronzin1445 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      People in whitechapel were as desperate as you can get. Most people just slept out on the streets so any form of shelter was a luxury

  • @sciencefirst7880
    @sciencefirst7880 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Wonderful video once again!
    Thanks!

  • @colettechauvin6464
    @colettechauvin6464 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Très intéressant bon documentaire.

  • @pds1
    @pds1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    " None but the lonely hearts can know my sadness,love lives forever " RIP beautiful Mary,may you will never be forgotten.

  • @GeoffNelson
    @GeoffNelson 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Great work. You really are an unsung TH-cam hero!

  • @straingedays
    @straingedays 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Have you updated you audio? Your wonderful voice sounds more base'y in this video!! Such an intriguing subject, others have shown the present day sites of the murders but yours is the first I've seen & been told the future tenants tales of 13 Miller's Court. Many old rentals came "furnished," so it's eerily possible some remained after the 9th of November.

  • @LindaMerchant-bq2hp
    @LindaMerchant-bq2hp 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I couldnt live ever in that flat apartment after what happened there to ms. Kelley

  • @Legionmint7091
    @Legionmint7091 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Thank you for yet another wonderfully interesting video Mr. Jones.
    It surprises me somewhat that no one seems to have saved any gruesome memorabilia from the room, nor the Millers Court I sign above the door.
    I imagined that some streetwise entrepreneur would made a rather nice profit hacking down down the blood stain on the wall and breaking up the bloodstained floorboards and selling it in minuscule pieces as the only remaining relics of JTR and his hideous last murder. Just imagine what the murderbed would go for at Christie’s today…

    • @jplonsdale7242
      @jplonsdale7242 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Precisely there's people selling (what they claim is) rubble from Fred and Rose Wests house that was demolished and all other kinds of true crime stuff. It's a niche market but big business

  • @dulciemidwinter1925
    @dulciemidwinter1925 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My Nanna was born in 1898 in that area and said that people were fearful still about the Ripper because they never caught him. We are still talking about him all these years after the event. People do love a mystery!

  • @louisemerriman1079
    @louisemerriman1079 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Excellent watch. I really enjoyed it. Thankyou Richard

  • @Mathemagical55
    @Mathemagical55 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    The inhabitants were obviously getting some kickback from the Inspector.

    • @Tsumami__
      @Tsumami__ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Well, the inspector flat out told them to give Kate some money lol

    • @rodgerhargoon3402
      @rodgerhargoon3402 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The big shots were extremely corrupted then and still corrupted now....

  • @bendanielsmusicnow4533
    @bendanielsmusicnow4533 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    When you look at the photo of the room it’s very unnerving it’s as though the darkness is there in the windows - you can literally feel the darkness of the murder and the woman’s life somehow emanating through the image - as though it carries the imprint of the dark act that happened there

    • @angelaclements1244
      @angelaclements1244 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No it just looks like a dark window

  • @filmbuff2777
    @filmbuff2777 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Great video. Thanks for sharing.

  • @PixieDragon9
    @PixieDragon9 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Thank you, this is very interesting.

  • @bluecat798
    @bluecat798 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Imagine sleeping in that room-Jeeesus! You ain't telling me it wasn't haunted! 👻

  • @easyartisan
    @easyartisan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    In 1986 I moved into a bedsit in southampton not knowing that a young nurse had been strangled to death on the bed I ended up sleeping on for the next year...until I found out. Since then I have always been very careful about the history of where I live and morbidly fascinated about places where murders have been committed or people have committed suicide.

    • @jrspiritcommunicator7611
      @jrspiritcommunicator7611 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did you ever get a strange feeling there, like there was a Presence there?

  • @omarhamid3638
    @omarhamid3638 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thanks very much for a wonderful story of all the colourful individuals came into Miller's Court afterwards and the history of such a place. Wonderful 👏

  • @quicksilver2510
    @quicksilver2510 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I did a Jack the Ripper tour last November. I live in Australia and have been fascinated with the case from a very young age. I have to say I was a little disappointed. Although the information given was concise and interesting, many of the original sites have changed dramatically, I realise it was nearly 150 years ago, but you had to use your imagination a bit.

  • @stevers62
    @stevers62 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Fascinating topic! Thanks for the research!

  • @arlanstrong1424
    @arlanstrong1424 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Well this is a delicious nugget of obscurity! How have I not wondered about it? Many thanks for a fascinating trip down the streets of the past.

    • @mah3223alia
      @mah3223alia 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Your name is Arlan? Thats a lovely name!

  • @barbarawissinger
    @barbarawissinger 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Your commitment to Social History is astounding! Watching this video reminded me of watching the old “Honeymooners” series. Jackie Gleason’s character lived in a New York tenement which probably have seemed luxurious to the residents of the East End.

  • @dermotkelly6946
    @dermotkelly6946 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Fantastic Richard , will watch tonight 👍

  • @sandiecooke1465
    @sandiecooke1465 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    These are some of the best videos on this case.
    I find them so oddly comforting for some reason? Like listening to the news on the radio or tv as a kid..

  • @-Reagan
    @-Reagan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    They did treat these people as if they had no rights in their own home, as one woman put it. The inspector commented on one man’s bravery for being able to sleep there. They wouldn’t have been there if they had any other place to go. It might’ve earned them money but, no one would put up with that plus being wakened at all hours if they could afford rent without it. The one man was too ill to leave his bed and here was the inspector coming in on them in the middle of night (hence her holding a candle to show them the wall). The inspector could at least have visited at a decent hour of day and brought medicine, tea or a bottle of wine or something. If her husband was sick he obviously couldn’t work and a woman could hardly have supported her husband back then.

  • @BenLujan-r5q
    @BenLujan-r5q 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thanks for the video, Mr. Jones!

  • @13thcentury
    @13thcentury 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Absolutely fascinating. Never even considered this. Good upload.

  • @zero_bs_tolerance8646
    @zero_bs_tolerance8646 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What an interesting topic. Hadn't heard any of this. Thank you, Mr. J.

  • @traciemarsh1611
    @traciemarsh1611 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    brilliant video thankyou mr jones. i love your voice it calms me

  • @lewiswalker7803
    @lewiswalker7803 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Ace video… always thought it a shame why it wasn’t photographed more before condemnation.

  • @alice_evermore
    @alice_evermore 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Excellent work! Fascinating!

  • @matthewjames206
    @matthewjames206 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Another fantastic video. Always a pleasure 🍻

  • @white-dragon4424
    @white-dragon4424 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    I've checked on Google Earth, and the centre of that new building that's been erected is an open area. Strangely, I approximate the very centre of that open area is where Kelly's room was. Why leave that specific area open, I wonder? Could it be for superstitious reasons, that they didn't want to have their building unintentionally haunted?

    • @johngilmore697
      @johngilmore697 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You never see a black ghost.

    • @Tsumami__
      @Tsumami__ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      When I went on one of the walking tours the spot shown to us was basically a car park

    • @danydazed4314
      @danydazed4314 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@johngilmore697or an old man eating a Twix.

    • @davesmith7432
      @davesmith7432 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@johngilmore697Did you ever hear of the Myrtle Plantation in Louisiana?

    • @musclecactus5183
      @musclecactus5183 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@johngilmore697or an old man eating a Twix

  • @allanbroadfield5121
    @allanbroadfield5121 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Incredibly interesting, and well researched.
    Great naration.

  • @MorrisseysMonkey
    @MorrisseysMonkey 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I wish people still talked like that now like they did back in those days!

  • @slicksnewonenow
    @slicksnewonenow 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    After having read everything I could get my hands on about the Jack The Ripper case, I have to say that I lean toward the theory that Jack was in fact the American, H.H. Holmes... Famous for his "Murder Castle" that he built in Chicago, Illinois.
    Everything about the guy points directly to everything that Jack was supposed to have done... The timelines around which Holmes was supposed to be in London and then in Chicago, etc.
    Very interesting...

  • @jacquelinemitchell7148
    @jacquelinemitchell7148 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Outstanding video 💯📸

  • @jamesquaid2544
    @jamesquaid2544 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Yes, very interesting, well done. I wonder if the contents of the room were salvaged, especially if at one time someone had offered to buy them?

  • @LadyAxe13
    @LadyAxe13 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    My favourite narrator! I have no interest in Jack the Ripper or anything to do with the case (I am simply tired of the slew of accounts and theories), but by the gods, I could listen to you all day long, Master Jones!

  • @TarahMatson-zz2hj
    @TarahMatson-zz2hj 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This was a fascinating video. Thank you very much for researching and presenting this. I have often wondered what happened to the room where Mary Kelly met her terrible end.

  • @malcolmhassan9888
    @malcolmhassan9888 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Brilliant 👍

  • @victorialobb7210
    @victorialobb7210 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Unnerving is an understatement.

  • @annepollock8306
    @annepollock8306 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Very interesting. Thanks.

  • @wendybond2848
    @wendybond2848 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It’s astonishing the landlord didn’t at least wash down the walls before the letting the room.

  • @MerrylOsdoby-y2h
    @MerrylOsdoby-y2h 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Brilliantly done!

  • @margaretbuckley9309
    @margaretbuckley9309 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow that was quite fascinating thank you for you time and effort in making this video for us
    Poor mary kellymay she find peace and all of the rippers victims 🙏🌹

  • @deancox8634
    @deancox8634 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Incredibly fascinating. Thank you.

  • @kevinkenny6975
    @kevinkenny6975 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Fascinating Richard

  • @jackieconnor6845
    @jackieconnor6845 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Loved this video 😃😃😃😃x

  • @WoodlandAsh
    @WoodlandAsh 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent work!

  • @Boadicea17
    @Boadicea17 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Bloody fascinating!!!❤
    I wonder if anyone took down the old metal street name plaque 'Millers Court' and kept it...wish it was mine.

  • @pietropes1322
    @pietropes1322 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Having seen the pics of her body after the killer was finished - damn, living there would be weird for sure.

  • @suzannemaria5594
    @suzannemaria5594 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bravo, new information for many! 👏

  • @janflannery8637
    @janflannery8637 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wonderfully done. Very interesting. An insight into those days.

  • @stoneleigh4743
    @stoneleigh4743 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fascinating - thank you for sharing.

    • @Laura-tp8wz
      @Laura-tp8wz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think it would be interesting to have a seance in that room. I would have liked to offer the victims prayers and peaceful passings. May they RIP

  • @robbrady4649
    @robbrady4649 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Hi Richard, judging by the photos of Mary Kelly's room I take it there were no washing or cooking facilities there, nor in the many similar types of accommodation in the East End.
    If that's the case, how did people maintain hygiene and cook for themselves and their families?
    Possibly a subject for a future video?

    • @johnreed8336
      @johnreed8336 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Lots of people eat out from this social class at the time . The higher social classes would have dined at home .
      Funny how the roles have reversed in these times .

    • @sabrasalvia7720
      @sabrasalvia7720 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There were outhouses in the courtyard and a pump for water. some guy on youtube did a full 3D rendering of the courtyard

    • @shayadayan3343
      @shayadayan3343 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I believe she had a dry sink, and she definitely had a fireplace

  • @CG-ee1cz
    @CG-ee1cz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Interesting how close neighbors heard Mary Kelly sing then nothing else after, while some newspapers of that time claim they heard a woman yell faintly "murder!" At the so called timing Mary's murder occured .
    Imo, I believe the witness(es) of hearing a song and then silence. The rooms were close that JTR likely covered MJK mouth after he cut her throat and so on.
    Another thing, it didn't surprise me that some tenants after were honest about the room by not adding to the murder story or the remaining items/ furniture. While the other tenants such as the old woman rambling about "51written in pencil " on the wall lied... she knew money can be earned for adding lies she created to the room as 'being hidden.'
    Of course, the landlord didn't sell or destroy the items after MJK because he just didn't want to replace them. Cheap landlord behavior.
    This video was informative 👏 no wonder no one seen Montague...I mean Jack ;) The door was by the poorly lit hallway entrance/exit..easy to come and go. "JACK" and Mary Kelly definitely knew each other though she may not have suspected it to be him, her off and on client.

    • @Tsumami__
      @Tsumami__ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Gross I can only imagine what happened to the bed. The landlord probably just disposed of the linens and just put new ones on 🤢

    • @davidmullen6011
      @davidmullen6011 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ' "JACK" and Mary Kelly definitely knew each other though she may not have suspected it to be him, her off and on client.'
      That struck me a bit too. For her to decide to take someone back to her room, down this tight alley, she either had confidence it would be fine to do so, or there was good money being offered that overrode her better judgment...
      It's surprising that this man would spend so long that night, and not fear over someone interrupting. Apart from Kelly's flatmate people would still have been passing that door regularly and potentially interrupted his attention, stranger still as many have noted is that he surely must have been bloodstained. He leaves at some point, in the dark, and walks out onto the streets and back to wherever he lived. Taking his knife with him.
      You do have to think he probobly lived on his own. Or at least wasn't married.

    • @CG-ee1cz
      @CG-ee1cz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@davidmullen6011 I was down a rabbit hole but I read somewhere that Jack the ripper was silent on his attacks, some women were tricked about money and some were straight to the point killed, they were unaware of his presence until it was too late. The buildings and people were near so I feel he covered their mouths for the throat cut etc
      And you are right! Mary kelly was in serious debt, she needed to pay for her rent somehow since she broken up with her bf and didn't want to lose her room! and that is why she returned to selling herself again, she didn't want to be seen in the alleys as the others and likely didn't want anyone to know what she is up to (saving face about her troubles). According to George Hutchinson he overheard the nicely dressed man (jtr) say to MJK "you will be alright with what I have told you." Imo she took the bait in hopes it would cover her debt since JTR did dress rather nicely and likely paid money before, so she gave in.
      I do think the rage JTR had with feeling betrayed by her inconsistent attention to him that he premeditated and attacked the other woman until that moment he'd see MJK again (seems she was off & on due to money troubles) . He had to be silent with MJK too no interruption. There wasn't much in Mjk room so no bumping into anything there either.
      Imo I don't think they slept together that night, mjk did look "ready" for the sexual act but I feel JTR acted like he was getting undressed and used that moment to cover her mouth and slit her throat, instant kill, but his rage was something he couldn't hold in anymore.
      According to George Hutchinson report it seems the man (JTR) had layers of to his outfit and coat so if he was bloodied he wiped it off himself and whatever remained he could've covered it with his coat. 🤷🏻‍♀️ One documentary theory says JTR could've been naked as he did it to avoid such a mess on his clothes and got dressed and left the scene... clean.
      In MJK pic, it seemed she was "ready" for the sexual act (that didn't happen ) and because he got her vulnerable and possibly only removed his coat faking to get undressed that gave him a chance to get a surgical knife he had along , and later used other items in his parcel bag after she was unalived for more of his work. I DO think he covered her mouth and been quick to deeply cut her throat. Instant kill, and his rage took over for all else.
      Look up "anatomical venus" by Clemente Susini *hopefully I spelled it right.JTR definitely mimicked that art with the women esp MJK
      He wasn't a doctor but likely son of one. Mj Druitt for a time was a medical student(didn't get far) before he switched to law school. Either way his father had surgical stuff so who knows if what he used was his fathers items.
      Psychic Sleuth did a psychic reading on jack the ripper, you can watch her video on youtube IF you want to have another form of entertainment on the subject.

    • @CG-ee1cz
      @CG-ee1cz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@davidmullen6011 I do think he lived alone, going to that area on weekends. I wished the officers had gotten more information from people they had such as Joseph Barnett and the women Mary kelly knew that were staying with her they likely had conversations about clients or any clingy ones.

    • @jenx5870
      @jenx5870 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There's no reason to believe they knew each other. Women who are desperate for money will accept it from anyone willing to pay it, despite the danger. There is also no reason to believe Jack was worried about being interrupted. The people in that area weren't concerned with what was going on in anyone else's room. They already knew what was occurring in those rooms, and they gave them their privacy. Their main concern was getting more money for beer and rent. They didn't pay attention to who came and went (no pun intended). It was dimly lit, and one person looked like another. Butchers regularly walked the streets, so a smear of blood wouldn't be unusual. He wore an overcoat which hid his bloody clothing, and carried his tools in a bag. He slit their throats from behind, and you can't scream with a slit throat. They would be silently dying after that. The doctors of the day agreed that he had little to no medical knowledge. He cut them up with little surgical precision, and anyone who ever slaughtered an animal would have had knowledge as to where organs were. As would someone with an obsession who looked at books. Had Jack been known to Mary Kelly, he would have been known to the others in the area, and he would have been caught. People aren't going to keep a secret about his identity after a massacre like that. Especially with a reward so large. Both stories could have been true. She could have been singing before entering her flat, then she could have realized what Jack was up to, and desperately yelled, "Murder", before he slit her throat. The fact that he took out so much rage on her may not have been because he was indoors and had the extra time, but because she attempted to fight back. The others were caught off guard and had little time to fight him off before he slit their throat and did his "handiwork". They didn't almost potentially get him caught in the act by calling him out. It did also have to do with the fact that he wanted to explore more of the human body, which he had more time to do. It could have been any woman. It just happened to be the unfortunate Ms. Kelly. Personally, I think he had already killed the true intended victim, and he was just continuing on with his murders to throw suspicion off of the actual murder. He stopped when he was almost caught.

  • @JosephMiller-gh6mv
    @JosephMiller-gh6mv 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    It would be so haunted from such a violent death , how could she RIP her killer who she saw is never caught and maybe she is like they know who did it , but they don't want it to be known or it was another woman and her spirit and spirits of all the victims will not rest until they say the know who the killer is.

    • @jrspiritcommunicator7611
      @jrspiritcommunicator7611 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think all his victims are not at rest, because he was never caught, so there's no closure for the spirits. 😢

  • @Theturtleowl
    @Theturtleowl 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I never thought about what happened to this location after the clean up of the murder. In an overcrowded place like London, a room would not be demolished just like that. But I do not envy the people who lived there after the autumn of 1888.

  • @mrliberty8468
    @mrliberty8468 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I don't think she was the only murder victim there I know there was a murder above her room and next door.

    • @dollymondo
      @dollymondo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      A woman called Kitty

    • @mrliberty8468
      @mrliberty8468 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @dollymondo I suppose alot of woman were named that In that neighborhood. It most certainly was a vile place were you could buy anything for wicked pleasure for a price.

    • @inisipisTV
      @inisipisTV 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, he made a past video regarding that in his channel.

    • @f.o.c.s.1028
      @f.o.c.s.1028 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@dollymondo
      Kitty Ronan resided at number 12 Miller's Court. Kitty was murdered on the 2nd of July 1909.

  • @davethomasatemyhamster
    @davethomasatemyhamster 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Those people had nerves of steel! Bless them

  • @bilindalaw-morley161
    @bilindalaw-morley161 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I knew the room must have been rented again because Millers Court wasn't demolished for many years, but I i assumed it would have been repainted and furnished!

  • @vespasian606
    @vespasian606 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    09:53 If the room was unlet for months afterwards then her story doesn't add up. The part about the rent effectively doubling could be a hint that Mary Kelly was getting a better deal than McCarthy was willing to admit. Kate expecting the same treatment could be the source of her indignation. I have my doubts that she ever gave Mary Kelly anything.

    • @johnreed8336
      @johnreed8336 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Mary Kelly sharing the room with another doesn't seem to be mentioned anywhere in the legal proceedings at the time .

  • @pds1
    @pds1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Also,I highly recommend the book, People of the abyss buy Jack London,you won't be disappointed.

  • @wondergirl367
    @wondergirl367 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fascinating follow-up to the murders

  • @mrripper2u314
    @mrripper2u314 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video as usual Mr Jones, very informative.
    I actually never heard before about a few things mentioned here:
    *The "Kate Lady" who lived with MJK?
    *The #51 written on the wall.
    *The bloddy hand print on the wall.
    *Landlord was offered money for MJK's belongings to put them on display.
    If true, those photos are missing from the MJK's murder files. Very interesting.

  • @Jkk55
    @Jkk55 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for the fascinating story the details which I hadn't heard before 👏👏👏

  • @patricklee6066
    @patricklee6066 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Poor Mary,the only photo of her is the one we all know.The poor woman looks she's been eaten by a lion pride,hard to believe one maniac did that,i hope the photo is never colourised.RIP Mary and the other victims.

  • @carolwebber9247
    @carolwebber9247 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Love your voice.

  • @dantelovesbeatrice
    @dantelovesbeatrice 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Respects - to the rare truths (we have yet to un-cover); and God bless all of you - for wanting them restored!

  • @Rollin_L
    @Rollin_L 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very informative and entertaining, as always Mr. Jones. It's very creepy to think of the well documented bloodstains remaining while several new residents lived in the midst of it. Not to mention profited from it. Just creepy. McCarthy must have been too cheap to buy paint.

  • @atlasking6110
    @atlasking6110 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent research!

  • @kaprivenom5316
    @kaprivenom5316 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    😢😢😢 A very pretty lady with a v sad end