I learn more useful and correct info about how to get the most out of my Ryzen/Radeon PC than any other place on the interwebs. Just wanted to say thank you and I expect to see Ancient Gameplays sub count grow exponentially with such great content. Cheers!
2 Questions: 1st why are all complaining over CB R20 and then when a fixed Version is out, nobody wants it and is running the same old crap? 2cend Why are Games still using DX11. All Graphics Cards even my RX580 supporting DX12 but noone seems to be care about? If it would possible to run a better DX12 or Vulkan by modifing a DX11 game?
@@Fincher123 API doesn't matter much if the engine isn't ready, that is why Fontnite usually loses FPS using DX12. A good game built with dx12 or vulkan from ground up will be better tho ofc
When I compared my 5900x stock vs PBO, in games the most noticable difference was how much more my cooler (NH-D15) had to work (fan noise) to keep the temps at the same or similar level. At the most I saw a 5% difference (in PBOs favor) when gaming, but could not notice the difference without a fps counter so I just turned PBO off and called it a day.
+5 to 10 fps on the 1% lows, while also getting better thermals is definitely worth it imo. Would have liked to see your PPT, TDC, EDC, and max boost override values. As well as what you're using for scalar? I'm assuming raising the single core clock, and getting that boost to stick longer, would increase games even more.
Using ECO mode (which is a preset of PBO) and with voltage offset on the curve optimizer made my 5600X runs cooler while minimizing performance in all core workload. It's a great feature to have. Definitely better than running stock settings.
Try undervolting and overclocking, I got my 5600x to 4.725GHz and no matter what voltage it couldn't go any higher, so I've put it to 4.7GHz at 1,3125V and it's running faster at 10/15 degrees less. Undervolting is a great thing honestly. At the end even for someone who wants performance, once you reach the silicon limit, it doesn't make sense not to try undervolting.
I just found your channel today watching the 2021 RAM OC guide. You're content is top notch, not to short, not to long. You really should have more subscribers so hopefully the YT algorithm can be more friendly to you. Sadly the PC youtubers who do stupid RGB everywhere stuff get more subs. Keep up the great content
Thanks for the kind words. Market is a bit stagnated due to the GPU situation, but once this all ends, i am sure the views and subscribers will come faster :D
I first owned a 5800x and I was mad, because of the high temperature, even with negativ Voltage offset I was not happy and I got an 240mm AIO with pure copper radiator. So I decided to go for a 5600x that should be maybe 2% less performance in Games and may 30% during Video Rendering or less options for Virtual Machines. But I rather have less noise from fans during the time I use my computer. Then I returned it and went for 5600x and it was ~15 °C less hot. I tryed a lot of PBO Settings and did a lot of benchmarks. Then I found a Video about curve optimiser, with the target is to get a less hot cpu during idle and during load. The solution was PBO Limit = Disabled (important otherwise it is nearly no effect) and curve -30 for all my cores. 27°C idle / 30°C webbrowser and stuff / 56°C during Games. CPU can still go for 4,6 GHz and stay there for a long time.
I think the curve optimizer is probably the best bet then honestly. I get lower temps using it with no performance loss personally. Kind of a win win I think
Nice Job. The Curve Optimiser can be tweaked further with regards to the favourite cores. i.e. -15, -5(favorite core1), -15,-15, -15, -5(second favorite core) Remember to enabled CPPC settings in BIOS. Also, increase the boost limit to the MAX +200 in bios. You should it 4.85GHZ and it will perform better.
Thanks. But yes and no. The more you raise the boost limit, the lower your all clocks will be (even worse if you have a worse sample). Basically you'll get higher single core, but way lower multicore :D
@@AncientGameplays That's a fair comment but one that's really more to do with the higher core cpu's with higher TDP (i.e. 5800x, 5900x, 5950x, all of which are 105w, while the 5600x is 65w). I would argue that you would have seen a little bit more of a gap in the games you showed if you did. Try it, especially as you have a decent cooler
I also experienced lower all clocks when +200(but two cores hit 4.9)Ryzen 5 5600x So I went +150 and all clocks hit 4.749 while ALSO having all clocks max hit at either, 4.799\4.801\4.869 Both tests had -15 co all cores I will now try setting my favorite cores to -5 leaving the rest at -15 and running with the +150/+200 see what happens… overall in cinebench my cpu temps don’t go higher than 74c (with +200 the temp hit 77.6c but again the all clocks were lower)
Playing in vr I needed to upgrade from my old 3600 so I bought a 5600x. CPU frame time got way lower and I can now play with way more opponents (I play mainly sim racing games) without having 20/30 FPS. Still got some little spikes in heavy scenarios, doing OC to 4.7GHz and UV to 1,3125V helped a lot both in those scenarios and with temps (from mi 70s to low 60s, sometimes not even to 60).
Hello, On my 5600x I get the best results with the follwing settings : Pbo on advanced, pbo limits : motherboard, max boost limit + 200 mhz and curve optimizer -20 ( you could go -25 or -30 if you have better binned cpu). With those settings I run a 4.85 ghz all core in light cpu games or between 4.7 and 4.75 ghz on heavier cpu games. If you want to try those settings on your cpu :)
Those settings aren't much far from mine actually. The thing is that the highest your max boost limit is, the lower the all core boost will be. Once you run cinebench R20 for example, you'll see those clocks going down :D So i found a mix between both :D
@@AncientGameplays I just ran a cinebench r20 with my settings and hwinfo and my clocks bounce between 4.7 ghz and 4.725 ghz all core during the benchmark.
@@AncientGameplays Yes with hwinfo64. I found out that setting pbo limits to motherboard instead of auto helped me hold the higher clocks better under heavier load. I just ran cinebench r20 with my above settings and got 4676 points. As for my cpu I guess it's not to bad with a manual oc I can do 4.7 ghz at 1.3 V .
I've tried too static oc and curve optimizer (per core) and results were all within margin of error, not worth the hassle at all, I keep it at stock now and it's perfect. Great video as always ;)
PBO's flaw to me is that it puts much more voltage when it spikes the clock speed and the temps are much much worse than having an undervolted manual oc, for better performance imo, but i love the idea if having the cpu downclock when its idle
Yo when you do all core oc and without changing settings like disable c states/amd cool n quiet it will still downclock and even sleep. so you still can get benefit from that
Good job Fabio as always. This is exactly what I have found on my Ryzen 9 5900x. On stock CPU boost up to 4925-4950 mhz. With pbo - 15 main core - 20 on 2nd prefered core - 25 on 3rd and rest - 30, my cpu hit 4950 more often with like 6-7°C less and also lesser power draw. I dont think todays AMD cpus wort overclocking, because difference between stock and oc will be no more than 2 - max 5% in games. I recommend it for lowering temperatures which means quieter pc.
wow thats pretty awesome, I was planning to OC my 5900X to 5gzh to see if I can hit it, but if I'm lucky maybe I'll get it done with just pbo+co have you experienced any stability issues when the voltage is low with low workloads?
@@naits95 yes i expirienced that. Actualy finding stable pbo CO is verry dificult. You can be stable week or two, than crash on trivial daily use aplication. curently testing all core OC 4650mhz at 1.3125V. Yes I am unlucky on silicon and also b450 motherboard isnt that great for overclocking neighter. In synthetic tests score is higher in multicore, and temps went down a bit too. I need test it in daily aplications and games. For example cinebench r20 went up from 8550ish to 9250, cinebench r23 from 21000 stock, 21900 pbo to 23 980, cpu-z from 693/9500 stock 696/9800 ish pbo to 647/10150 on all core oc. Temps on single core load max 47.6°C all core load 69.4°C. Strange is that synthetic graphic benchmarks like 3dmark or unigine superposition show significant gains in cpu, gpu and overal score too.
@@johnrehak thank you for the detailed and insightful response! sounds like quite the journey, I might have to do it more or less incrementaly and find a good way to do low workload tests reliable in some sort of way or form.. I use my computer for work during workhours and gaming afterwards so I guess I should work on that curve until I find it stable so the PC doesn't crash while I'm at work lol would be easier if we had a reliable low workload test, eg. put a negative 30 on the curve and find a application or workload which crashes the PC every time, then do that test and adjust the curve or something like that..
@@naits95 yes thats why its difficult and time consuming. Most if not all pbo co crashes I had was with verry light to no workload(opening internet browser, VLC or browsing pictures, photos). When You think You finaly found Your final settings, you crash after one week or two. It can cause by too high curve, too high or low limits, etc. When I crashed last time, I told myself to try all core oc insted. I will see how it goes.
This imo proves how overclocking is pretty much pointless nowadays. Only significant thing is undervolting to reduce temps. That's it. Oc these days is pointless.
Cpus came a long way in ipc in the last years. Ryzen 3000 boost is already VERY good, and ryzen 5000 is even better. Ryzen 1000 and 2000 are better with OC and intel.CPUs as well
@@AncientGameplays definitely. If you have an older CPU or gpu, by all means overclocking does wonders at times. But on modern hardware, it's simply pointless.
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@@AncientGameplays Hi man, really good videos! With a asus prime x570 pro + ryzen 7 3700x do you recommend PBO or manual oc? I've never tried it before
PBO on my 5900x makes my system feel clunkier, gives me more stutters in games. Nice to see that disabling it doesn't drastically affect performance. But also points to my CPU being unstable in general :( Since upgrading from a 1080ti to a 5800 XT I've been having stutter and clunkiness even in my OS (delay in typing, windows lagging when trying to drag or resize them). But I suspect the CPU more than my GPU at this point, since disabling TPM and PBO improved things drastically. For your tests you should look at frametimes and frame smoothness too.
If u care about temp, limit your ppt to 115 -125 watt rather than have 142W(stock) but yes it have performance impact in multicore but single core is none.
it would've been nice to see the temps or power consumption of the test. If the performance is the same, power usage/hardware degradation could be the aspect to choose which path to go.
Interesting video man. I think with the quality of the Zen 3 you're better investing in the best GPU possible and pairing it with the best cooler you can get and let it boost away and like you say for most regular users that will be job done.
Thank you so much for the guide, I set my 5700x to PPT 150 TDC 95 EDC130 50mhz override all core -25 curve except 2 fast cores -15. Looking stable, OCCT didn't report any problem. Hits 4,6 all core and 4,65 single, temps are ok Do you think there is anything else I should take into consideration?
i went with 4.7 @ 1.25v and it gets better results and stays cooler, never goes above 68 at full load, with pbo and curve optimizer it wouldn't stay at 4.65 in mt and temps were pretty much the same, if i wanted it to boost higher I'd have to lower the curve thus making it hotter, so, manual oc was pretty much a no brainer for me
Can i ask what did you set your PBO limit to? Motherboard or disabled? And i'm wondering your temperatures after the run of a cb20. Maybe you cant remember exact numbers but if you can give me approximate i will be happy. Also thanks for your hard work as always :D
i spent so much of my life testing this pbo BS out and it really only shines at multi core stuff like encoding with x264, might be the difference of streaming something in the slow preset or medium preset but for real, do not mind
@@AncientGameplays the only time the pbo curve optimizer did significant improves (single core wise) was when using scalar x10, but than my 5700g that has a tdp of 65w was pulling 150w, good luck with the degradation lols, for users that switches the cpu every generation it surely is a good feature, not my case
Ok, so my r7 5800X does not require manual OC? especially for vega 64: D btw. I don't know if the PBO option is available on the x470 chip. I'll have to look in there when I get to the end of the LC
I didnt know how your cpu is but mine will not do 2000mhz fclk but I dont care as long as it does 3800mhz. Yes you will have high temp but pbo is where you need to tweak a little. By setting the PPT limit to around 105-125 watt it really reduce the temp. In curve optimizer just do all core -30 negative offset(hope your cpu can do this) with this setting cpu clock average 4850 mhz. Temp never exced 70degree.
@@AncientGameplays if u reply to my comment then I can assure you my cpu wont boot at 2000 fclk. On my msi x570 always show F7 post code debug error. And it doesnt matter how high or low the soc thou.🤣🤣 Im done tweaking my ram as I settle down at XMP setting but 3800/1900.
Is it normal for clocks to fluctuate down to 3.6ghz back up to 4.7ghz when monitoring? I am using PBO with CO and when I play games and watch my clock they are constantly going all the way down to 3.6 then shooting back up to 4.8-4.9 they don't stay boosted.
From my understanding (take with a pinch of salt) yes that is how it's supposed to work. The clock speed increases or decreases dynamically based on load, and the CPU load in games aren't always constant. However I will say that with my 8700k I had before my 5900x, this behaviour caused stutters, so I ended up forcing it to have a constant clock speed at all times. This improved performance, and my cooler could handle it. The CPU is still alive and I had it for about 4-5 years. I'm going to try it with my 5900x soon as I'm once again having stutters.
Tryed Curve Optimizer on 5900X Negative 20 and and some games are unstable, turned it to Negative 10 but on 10 seems a bit useless because achieving around 3-5 degrees more with 5-9 fps difference in cpu games, high end games dont have any changes no matter negative 20 or 10, better use stock for everythink work stable and same performance at all.
Can be used PBO on Enabled without killing it on Advanced so machine automatically gonna push a little bit, no need more, more means unstable or high degrees, this is mania for benchmark peoples.
@@AncientGameplays Sorry for late respond i found best settings for me there, Curve Negative 30 on all cores and Negative 10 on best cores so this dont do crashes and so high curve at same time, PBO limits 162/115/160 so 162 watts, Offset +100 or +200, do stock degrees because the high curve reduce a lot degrees and filling them back with higher PBO Limits.
Ever since I got my 3950x I noticed the stock temps are very high because it's always trying to boost to 4.7ghz, even when just doing light desktop workloads. Is the curve optimiser available for Zen 2 cpus? Sounds like it could solve my temp issues.
I had a 3900X that was a bit hot, but undervolting it with a regular cpu offset reduced my temps by 5-10C and gave me better boosts and temps. You might want to try it since it worked wonderfully for me.
I do say in the video that it is only for Ryzen 5000. THOUGHT, you can do as said below and do a bit of undervolting yourself and let PBO do the rest :D You can also do a manual OC
Hi bro, I have 5600x with Arctic Freezer 34 Esports DUO. I check the stats with HWinfo64. Testing with Cinebench R23. When my "PBO limit" is on "Motherboard" the themps go to 82, when "Disabled" temps are 66. I saw that when I set Curve Optimizer to "-30" and PBO boost "+200", the Single core clock is higher "4,841" but the Multi-core goes down around "4,260 - 4,313"... Cinebench multi-core test ~11000 or little lower. Like I said, if I change "PBO limit" to "Motherboard" the temps go 82 to get higher multi-core clock, but it is not worth it. If I set PBO to just "Enable", without any other setting, the Single core is ~4,65 but the Multi-core goes up to 4,55, at the cost of 82 degrees, which is not good... I want to achieve both high Single core and Multi-core with arround 66-70 temps! Any suggestions?
As i said before in a different video you helped a lot with my rx580 and now with my rx 6600xt. Now I am waiting for the 5600x to come i have already bought the arctic 280 and i want to know where i can find the static oc bios settings just to lower the temps.
@@AncientGameplays thank you for answering but is there a specific video for the static oc bios settings. In this video is the curve optimized only if i am not wrong.
can i please download your MSI afterburner setup.... u got the best one , and i was trying to copy it but it look like you when u shave:'D , soo can u please make some google drive download of msi asfterburner ? :> + riva tunner what FONT are you using ? ... thanks a lot
for me with my 5900x it seems like static overclock(4.65ghz at 1.260v) gives me better results and lower temps(not going above 80c during stress testing). Mind you with curve optimizer mostly all my cores are at -30 with a couple at -25 and my best 3 cores even reached 5 ghz at times. While curve optimize gave me higher clock speeds it also gave me higher voltages at the 1.4v ish range when it pushed and i think thats were the issue might lie. Im still processing how this stuff works. Also with cinnebench r23 was pretty much the results you showed. Static overclock always kept my multicore score above 23000(23300 at best) while curve optimizer at best gave me 22800 though curve optimizer did better in single core at 1600+ while static was around 1550ish. For now im keeping my static till i understand this pbo/curve stuff better. im wondering with pbo should i be messing with vcore/offset settings
This is more of a preference setting lol makes no real difference in games. I go for the curve optimizer as for me with a 5950x setting all cores to a static frequency is much harder then the 5600x as i would need to unlock a lot of power limits. so i just set the optimizer to negative 25 on all but its 4 best cores and negative 16 on its best cores as they are the only cores that can hit 4.9-5ghz. The all core frequency hits 4.2ghz up from 3.980mhz so no OCing so its a decent improvement.
If I wasn't such a computer tweaker, as that's where like 80% of my joy of PC's and gaming come from (teaking hardware settings and comparing differences), I'd just leave everything stock (except RAM, I'd always enable D.O.C.P. or XMP). Stock PBO/PBO2, stock boost clocks and probably even stock curve optimizer. It's just too fun. Which, of course, I do the very occasional large file compression and video encoding, along with using OBS to record videos using my CPU since it's a 5900x and I don't lose an ounce of performance that way. Plus there's new AI video encoders out, now, and sure.. you're better off using your GPU (or APU/integrated graphics), but as with all thing encoding, GPU = faster but larger, lower quality files while CPU = slower, but smaller, higher quality files. It just depends on the size of the task at hand. And to be honest, I don't like letting my 5900x pull 180-200 watts for 3-4+ hours at a time, depending on the job size and settings when the 6700XT can do it in just several minutes. But as far as gaming goes? My PBO2 + CO settings don't really seem to make a huge difference. I mean, I don't measure every single time, but it's nothing night and day. 3DMark picks up on EVERY little performance gain, so that's where I mainly see gains come from. Other than that, using PBO will let my all core load go from something like 4.3ghz in CPU-z SSE benchmark to 4.625-4.65ghz all core. I mean, that's a nice little jump for an ALL CORE load. But it means going beyond the stock 142w PPT and hitting 165-175 watts. Or in AVX loads, we're talking 200 watts with just a 180a EDC limit (1000w PPT/1000a TDC/180a EDC) which is what "Asus Performance Enhancement sets PBO to automatically and it's what I use because for some reason, manually inputting the same settings gives me worse clock speeds in games while using "APE" gives me higher clock speeds in games lol. At least, this is on an Asus B550-F Gaming Wi-Fi II + 5900x. Your mileage may vary. One thing I've NEVER really done is set a static frequency. I can see where it MAY have benefits, but I prefer the boosting in games, for starters. I mean, not since like Bulldozer/Piledriver and CPUs before that. Then, yeah, everything was set to static frequencies :-) Core 2 Duo e6320 @ 1.86ghz OC'd to 3.3xghz won be an overclocking competition on air cooling. Or the Q6600 from 2.4ghz to 3.4-3.6ghz. Or even way back when with the Athlon 64 3400+ s754, it came at 2.4ghz and I ran it at 2.62ghz. Oh, I do think if you're going to do it, you gotta use curve optimizer with the boost clock and then a voltage offset on the CPU if possible so you can get the MOST out of your boost clocks and temps.
hey Fabio, what do you think is a happy medium when undervolting 5700x with PBO2 CO? I tried -30 (stupid, i know cause it's exceedingly rare to get it to run stable at this value). Unstable after 1 month cuz PC froze during idling while I was calling someone on Discord. Now back to stock although would like to run my CPU to run cooler with CO since it'll make my PC run cooler in general too. Love the content as always, Thank you sir
My PC running on +200 CO on 7950x3d , MSI pro b650m-A wifi . This normal? It's not stable on default, so I realized the more I increase the CO the more it be stable (note, no thermal throttle or anything)
Hello everyone, Tell me the settings to archive the best FPS result from a Ryzen 5 5600x through Bios with low temps as well Also, can you guys test and see how my settings are (I believe they are one of the best) Most important, Curve Optimizer @ Negative 30 All Core (Under AMD Overclock and PBO Advance) step1) Voltage Offset: +0.0250v step 2) CPU LLC 2 and VDDSOC LLC 2 Step 3) CPU Current Capacity @ 110% Step 4) Dram Current Capability @110% Step 5) Dram Phase @ Extreme Step 6) Performance Bias @ Auto Step 7) A Must, PBO Disabled and PBO Limits Disabled Step 8 Gear Down Mode: Disabled, Power Down Mode: Disabled Step 9) A must CPPC Enabled and CPPC Preferred Cores Disabled Step 10) CPU Max Boost Override @ 0 (zero) and Thermal Throttle limit @ 90c (under AMD Overclock Tab) Step 11) Core Performance Boost: Enabled
Viva, o Curve optimizer é o melhor para os novos Chips, static OC "morreu". Consegues aunda resultados melhores que isto. Se queres melhores resultados no warzone instala os drivers 22.5.2
@@AncientGameplays obrigado pela resposta tão célere! Vou então experimentar os teus valores de curve optimizer! Utilizo os que tens no início deste vídeo, ou tens algum "update" aos mesmos?
@@AncientGameplays Boas Fabio, podes testar esta cpu no warzone com oc e sem e em diferentes configurações de clock e latencia de memorias (uso cl18 e já fiz oc e apertei os timings)? Agradeço muito pelo seu trabalho excelente
@@Venvanse30mg i think edc is 170 the rest are 250. -30 offset on most cores. thermal limit is like 150. plus 200 mhz boost. I let it draw whatever it wants.
Hi, my 5600x gets 256/1970 cb15 and 599/4565 with pbo enabled, around 4,65 GHz both st and mt on air cooling...your 5600x is liquid cooled? I reach 80° in heavy mt bench
The moment I sell my msi 1070 I'm gonna get a 5600x lol I can't wait it's gonna go really good with my rx6700xt. Is it possible to test cyberpunk, rdr2 and Assetto Corsa Competizione 1440p?
Curve optimization works good on benchmarks less over heat... and better score.. Not for gaming.. IF we got 5900x or 5950x there is benefit more in gaming than with 5600x.
@@AncientGameplays yeah 2 ccds because of that.. Did u find that in germany 2 older guys have in you tube that 5600x has 2 ccd same as 5900x ? But they are cut... but not all 5600x has 2 ccd. U should find that and search about that.. because 5600x and 5900x is same cpu. lol
@@AncientGameplays nope 2ccd are cpu cuted, it is same cpu as 5900x.find review u Will see 2 old man computer expert from germany shows it is 8core cpu 12 thread 5600x find u Will see.. But not all 5600x like this depends on cost how much u paid trust me
@@MakeSh00t I searched and i saw some of them were really cut down Ryzen 9 chips...i assume this is due to chip shortage....otherwise it wouldn't be happening
I see no difference with curve optimiserat 20 or overclocking for 200mz or both at the same time and even with ram at 2666 vs 3600 i see no difference no matter what is that normal?
The only setting that was the most effective for me was to just set PBO to disabled and then use Curve Optimizer on all cores to -20. Didn't bother with AutoOC at all. The result was 7-8 C less temperature while gaming and the average fps stayed about the same.
Hi Fabio, Got my 5600x few days ago and cant figure the good way to use Curve Optimizer. In this scenario, was CU + PBO positive offset or were you using AutoOC offset? Or can yoy use them at the same time? Its confusing 😩 Been fiddling with my CPU for the past days and compared to 3700x its nightmare to find best settings
You dont mess with voltages at all. You go to the curve optimizer menu and always select negative curve of -10 (some samples go lower), then put 100MHz boost and select mobo limits in terms of power if your mobo is at least decent
PBO and Curve Optimizer are slightly different. For example in this case, STOCK is with the "normal" PBO (which is activated by default). You want lower temps, get a better cooler (ofc) and undervolt with CO, or simply just undervolt with static voltage
@@AncientGameplays ofc i have freezer 2 360mm which is good, but i am just asking if anyone want a small case with a mix of gaming and editing with 5800X.
@@AncientGameplays thanks, I usually watch these types of videos on my TV which can't see comments or video descriptions. I eventually found it in the description after I posted the question. Love your vids man especially the intros. Keep doing your thing 👍
I've heard of "CTR 2.0" for overclocking/undervolting automatically and getting the best possible results, have you tryed it? can we expect a video on it?
@@AncientGameplays Yeah, I've realized, it arrived today so I tested it out. Thought that maybe there's going to be a bit more of a difference overclocking it than with the 5600x but it's all marginal. 😅
False, we came to a point in performance that testing at High settings is the way to go (not at ultra though). Still, that is IF your testing CPUs for the best available case and here we're testing for normal scenarios. I have lots of previous CPU comparisons and I do them that way, but not here. Also, you can clearly see that most of these games AREN'T GPU bottlenecked at 1080P, and yet the perf difference is basically none
On my 5900x pbo+curve optimizer is way too hot but i see 10fps increase. I’m currently running my 5900x on CTR 2.1 1.175v 4.6ghz on ccx1 and 4.4ghz on ccx 2 and hybrid oc activated with 4-6 cores running at 4.8ghz 1.35v depending in load.
@@AncientGameplays the figures i listed are the setting that Clock Tuner For Ryzen gave me. On curve optimiser unigine valley gave me 127fps and 66c temps on 1440p with 5700 XT On CTR 2.1 im get the same fps with unigine valley at 1440p but way cooler temps with only 50c and cpu @ 1.175v 4.6ghz on my 5900x
Hope you enjoy this video and my results! Leave your experience in the comment section below :D
bro i need you help i have rx 570 4gb and i want to oc it but i have followed your guides but games got crashes pls pls pls help
I learn more useful and correct info about how to get the most out of my Ryzen/Radeon PC than any other place on the interwebs. Just wanted to say thank you and I expect to see Ancient Gameplays sub count grow exponentially with such great content. Cheers!
2 Questions: 1st why are all complaining over CB R20 and then when a fixed Version is out, nobody wants it and is running the same old crap?
2cend Why are Games still using DX11. All Graphics Cards even my RX580 supporting DX12 but noone seems to be care about?
If it would possible to run a better DX12 or Vulkan by modifing a DX11 game?
@@DigiGrowSkills follow the guide better. I explain ALL CARDS ARE DIFFERENT, and that you have to tweak yours
@@Fincher123 API doesn't matter much if the engine isn't ready, that is why Fontnite usually loses FPS using DX12. A good game built with dx12 or vulkan from ground up will be better tho ofc
Those Manual OC temps are the biggest difference here :D Great vid.
Indeed :D
When I compared my 5900x stock vs PBO, in games the most noticable difference was how much more my cooler (NH-D15) had to work (fan noise) to keep the temps at the same or similar level. At the most I saw a 5% difference (in PBOs favor) when gaming, but could not notice the difference without a fps counter so I just turned PBO off and called it a day.
Yeah i fell you. Curve Optimizer is a tad better because you can select your UV level in an easier way
Fabio always coming with the fire vids. Great video bro :)
Thanks!
GREAT BENCHMARK !!
THNX A LOT !!
+5 to 10 fps on the 1% lows, while also getting better thermals is definitely worth it imo.
Would have liked to see your PPT, TDC, EDC, and max boost override values.
As well as what you're using for scalar?
I'm assuming raising the single core clock, and getting that boost to stick longer, would increase games even more.
Using motherboard limits here. It can stay at 4.75Ghz in all cores for quite some time :D
@@AncientGameplays why did you change to curve optimizer actually?
Hello bro!
Another great video!
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i was waiting for this video for soo long 👍👍
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mandando bem como sempre brother!
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Using ECO mode (which is a preset of PBO) and with voltage offset on the curve optimizer made my 5600X runs cooler while minimizing performance in all core workload. It's a great feature to have. Definitely better than running stock settings.
Try undervolting and overclocking, I got my 5600x to 4.725GHz and no matter what voltage it couldn't go any higher, so I've put it to 4.7GHz at 1,3125V and it's running faster at 10/15 degrees less.
Undervolting is a great thing honestly.
At the end even for someone who wants performance, once you reach the silicon limit, it doesn't make sense not to try undervolting.
I just found your channel today watching the 2021 RAM OC guide. You're content is top notch, not to short, not to long. You really should have more subscribers so hopefully the YT algorithm can be more friendly to you. Sadly the PC youtubers who do stupid RGB everywhere stuff get more subs. Keep up the great content
Thanks for the kind words. Market is a bit stagnated due to the GPU situation, but once this all ends, i am sure the views and subscribers will come faster :D
I appreciate all your different intros man! 😂 As well as the videos of course, keep it up!
Thanks man :D
I first owned a 5800x and I was mad, because of the high temperature, even with negativ Voltage offset I was not happy and I got an 240mm AIO with pure copper radiator. So I decided to go for a 5600x that should be maybe 2% less performance in Games and may 30% during Video Rendering or less options for Virtual Machines. But I rather have less noise from fans during the time I use my computer. Then I returned it and went for 5600x and it was ~15 °C less hot. I tryed a lot of PBO Settings and did a lot of benchmarks. Then I found a Video about curve optimiser, with the target is to get a less hot cpu during idle and during load. The solution was PBO Limit = Disabled (important otherwise it is nearly no effect) and curve -30 for all my cores. 27°C idle / 30°C webbrowser and stuff / 56°C during Games. CPU can still go for 4,6 GHz and stay there for a long time.
If you have a good mobo, just let mobo pick the limits
Hello any updates on your 5600x and how it's behaving with that configuration you set ?
I think the curve optimizer is probably the best bet then honestly. I get lower temps using it with no performance loss personally. Kind of a win win I think
I get lower ones with static OC haha
@@AncientGameplays oh strange, I might have to try that lol
Static will definitely get you lower temps if you set lowest possible voltage for your oc conpared to co
Appreciate the hard work
Thanks!
Nice Job.
The Curve Optimiser can be tweaked further with regards to the favourite cores. i.e. -15, -5(favorite core1), -15,-15, -15, -5(second favorite core) Remember to enabled CPPC settings in BIOS. Also, increase the boost limit to the MAX +200 in bios. You should it 4.85GHZ and it will perform better.
Thanks. But yes and no. The more you raise the boost limit, the lower your all clocks will be (even worse if you have a worse sample). Basically you'll get higher single core, but way lower multicore :D
@@AncientGameplays That's a fair comment but one that's really more to do with the higher core cpu's with higher TDP (i.e. 5800x, 5900x, 5950x, all of which are 105w, while the 5600x is 65w). I would argue that you would have seen a little bit more of a gap in the games you showed if you did. Try it, especially as you have a decent cooler
@@kaisersolo76 I did test it extensively haha
what does cppc do?
I also experienced lower all clocks when +200(but two cores hit 4.9)Ryzen 5 5600x
So I went +150 and all clocks hit 4.749 while ALSO having all clocks max hit at either, 4.799\4.801\4.869
Both tests had -15 co all cores
I will now try setting my favorite cores to -5 leaving the rest at -15 and running with the +150/+200 see what happens… overall in cinebench my cpu temps don’t go higher than 74c (with +200 the temp hit 77.6c but again the all clocks were lower)
Playing in vr I needed to upgrade from my old 3600 so I bought a 5600x.
CPU frame time got way lower and I can now play with way more opponents (I play mainly sim racing games) without having 20/30 FPS.
Still got some little spikes in heavy scenarios, doing OC to 4.7GHz and UV to 1,3125V helped a lot both in those scenarios and with temps (from mi 70s to low 60s, sometimes not even to 60).
that "meme" at the beginning was fucking unecessary
cool
Hello,
On my 5600x I get the best results with the follwing settings : Pbo on advanced, pbo limits : motherboard, max boost limit + 200 mhz and curve optimizer -20 ( you could go -25 or -30 if you have better binned cpu). With those settings I run a 4.85 ghz all core in light cpu games or between 4.7 and 4.75 ghz on heavier cpu games.
If you want to try those settings on your cpu :)
Those settings aren't much far from mine actually. The thing is that the highest your max boost limit is, the lower the all core boost will be. Once you run cinebench R20 for example, you'll see those clocks going down :D
So i found a mix between both :D
@@AncientGameplays I just ran a cinebench r20 with my settings and hwinfo and my clocks bounce between 4.7 ghz and 4.725 ghz all core during the benchmark.
Seeing with hwinfo64? You must have a really good sample then, easily better than mine
@@AncientGameplays Yes with hwinfo64. I found out that setting pbo limits to motherboard instead of auto helped me hold the higher clocks better under heavier load. I just ran cinebench r20 with my above settings and got 4676 points. As for my cpu I guess it's not to bad with a manual oc I can do 4.7 ghz at 1.3 V .
I would like to see if those setting pass Prime95 small ftt?
I've tried too static oc and curve optimizer (per core) and results were all within margin of error, not worth the hassle at all, I keep it at stock now and it's perfect. Great video as always ;)
Thanks for watching :D
PBO's flaw to me is that it puts much more voltage when it spikes the clock speed and the temps are much much worse than having an undervolted manual oc, for better performance imo, but i love the idea if having the cpu downclock when its idle
Yo when you do all core oc and without changing settings like disable c states/amd cool n quiet it will still downclock and even sleep. so you still can get benefit from that
Good job Fabio as always. This is exactly what I have found on my Ryzen 9 5900x. On stock CPU boost up to 4925-4950 mhz. With pbo - 15 main core - 20 on 2nd prefered core - 25 on 3rd and rest - 30, my cpu hit 4950 more often with like 6-7°C less and also lesser power draw. I dont think todays AMD cpus wort overclocking, because difference between stock and oc will be no more than 2 - max 5% in games. I recommend it for lowering temperatures which means quieter pc.
Exactly :D
wow thats pretty awesome, I was planning to OC my 5900X to 5gzh to see if I can hit it, but if I'm lucky maybe I'll get it done with just pbo+co
have you experienced any stability issues when the voltage is low with low workloads?
@@naits95 yes i expirienced that. Actualy finding stable pbo CO is verry dificult. You can be stable week or two, than crash on trivial daily use aplication. curently testing all core OC 4650mhz at 1.3125V. Yes I am unlucky on silicon and also b450 motherboard isnt that great for overclocking neighter. In synthetic tests score is higher in multicore, and temps went down a bit too. I need test it in daily aplications and games. For example cinebench r20 went up from 8550ish to 9250, cinebench r23 from 21000 stock, 21900 pbo to 23 980, cpu-z from 693/9500 stock 696/9800 ish pbo to 647/10150 on all core oc. Temps on single core load max 47.6°C all core load 69.4°C. Strange is that synthetic graphic benchmarks like 3dmark or unigine superposition show significant gains in cpu, gpu and overal score too.
@@johnrehak thank you for the detailed and insightful response! sounds like quite the journey, I might have to do it more or less incrementaly and find a good way to do low workload tests reliable in some sort of way or form.. I use my computer for work during workhours and gaming afterwards so I guess I should work on that curve until I find it stable so the PC doesn't crash while I'm at work lol
would be easier if we had a reliable low workload test, eg. put a negative 30 on the curve and find a application or workload which crashes the PC every time, then do that test and adjust the curve or something like that..
@@naits95 yes thats why its difficult and time consuming. Most if not all pbo co crashes I had was with verry light to no workload(opening internet browser, VLC or browsing pictures, photos). When You think You finaly found Your final settings, you crash after one week or two. It can cause by too high curve, too high or low limits, etc. When I crashed last time, I told myself to try all core oc insted. I will see how it goes.
Such excellent content, test methodology is top notch 😎
Thanks!
@@AncientGameplays My pleasure 😁
This imo proves how overclocking is pretty much pointless nowadays. Only significant thing is undervolting to reduce temps. That's it. Oc these days is pointless.
Cpus came a long way in ipc in the last years. Ryzen 3000 boost is already VERY good, and ryzen 5000 is even better. Ryzen 1000 and 2000 are better with OC and intel.CPUs as well
@@AncientGameplays definitely. If you have an older CPU or gpu, by all means overclocking does wonders at times. But on modern hardware, it's simply pointless.
@@AncientGameplays Hi man, really good videos! With a asus prime x570 pro + ryzen 7 3700x do you recommend PBO or manual oc? I've never tried it before
@@davidepannone6021 Yup :)
PBO on my 5900x makes my system feel clunkier, gives me more stutters in games. Nice to see that disabling it doesn't drastically affect performance. But also points to my CPU being unstable in general :(
Since upgrading from a 1080ti to a 5800 XT I've been having stutter and clunkiness even in my OS (delay in typing, windows lagging when trying to drag or resize them). But I suspect the CPU more than my GPU at this point, since disabling TPM and PBO improved things drastically.
For your tests you should look at frametimes and frame smoothness too.
Nice done again! My next CPU. :)
Thanks for watching :D
i went a -20 PBO curve on my 5800x purely to get the temps down in a 18L case and the performance isnt too bad, minimal drop if any.
If u care about temp, limit your ppt to 115 -125 watt rather than have 142W(stock) but yes it have performance impact in multicore but single core is none.
Yeah, by undervolting you usually get more performance due to having more power room :D
Ty! My 5600x is arriving today :D
Thanks for watching
Static OC it is then!
Now back to finishing my build…
(😂 0:20)
Glad you had info and a laugh
it would've been nice to see the temps or power consumption of the test. If the performance is the same, power usage/hardware degradation could be the aspect to choose which path to go.
That is why side by side comparisons are there :D
You can at least see temps there
@@AncientGameplays oh, of course, i didnt remind of that!
Interesting video man. I think with the quality of the Zen 3 you're better investing in the best GPU possible and pairing it with the best cooler you can get and let it boost away and like you say for most regular users that will be job done.
Exactly :D
im gonna try this when i finish my pc build ty
You should :D
Thank you so much for the guide, I set my 5700x to PPT 150 TDC 95 EDC130 50mhz override all core -25 curve except 2 fast cores -15. Looking stable, OCCT didn't report any problem.
Hits 4,6 all core and 4,65 single, temps are ok
Do you think there is anything else I should take into consideration?
Just take in consireation stability, test it well
Buen vídeo!
Gracias!
i went with 4.7 @ 1.25v and it gets better results and stays cooler, never goes above 68 at full load, with pbo and curve optimizer it wouldn't stay at 4.65 in mt and temps were pretty much the same, if i wanted it to boost higher I'd have to lower the curve thus making it hotter, so, manual oc was pretty much a no brainer for me
Finally got 5600x to replace 2600, ty for the test Fabio
You're very welcome
Can i ask what did you set your PBO limit to? Motherboard or disabled? And i'm wondering your temperatures after the run of a cb20. Maybe you cant remember exact numbers but if you can give me approximate i will be happy. Also thanks for your hard work as always :D
Limits for the motherboard always :D
Very interesting!!
Thanks!
i spent so much of my life testing this pbo BS out and it really only shines at multi core stuff like encoding with x264, might be the difference of streaming something in the slow preset or medium preset but for real, do not mind
yeah, PBO brings more gains on higher core count CPUS mostly.
@@AncientGameplays the only time the pbo curve optimizer did significant improves (single core wise) was when using scalar x10, but than my 5700g that has a tdp of 65w was pulling 150w, good luck with the degradation lols, for users that switches the cpu every generation it surely is a good feature, not my case
What did you set your Max Boost Override? +100 mhz or something? Sorry if i didnt see or hear if you said in the video :D
+125MHz
@@AncientGameplays thnx for quick reply. You really deserve much more
Ok, so my r7 5800X does not require manual OC?
especially for vega 64: D
btw. I don't know if the PBO option is available on the x470 chip. I'll have to look in there when I get to the end of the LC
PBO is available even on B450. Curve Optimizer is also on B450 for the 5000 series, update your BIOS
@@AncientGameplays, thanks, then, the bios update will go after the water cooling is done.
I didnt know how your cpu is but mine will not do 2000mhz fclk but I dont care as long as it does 3800mhz. Yes you will have high temp but pbo is where you need to tweak a little. By setting the PPT limit to around 105-125 watt it really reduce the temp. In curve optimizer just do all core -30 negative offset(hope your cpu can do this) with this setting cpu clock average 4850 mhz. Temp never exced 70degree.
Oh believe it will. You just need good ram and good tweaking. Put that soc voltage at 1.15v+ and I/O to 1.05v. Also, update to the latest bios
@@AncientGameplays if u reply to my comment then I can assure you my cpu wont boot at 2000 fclk. On my msi x570 always show F7 post code debug error. And it doesnt matter how high or low the soc thou.🤣🤣 Im done tweaking my ram as I settle down at XMP setting but 3800/1900.
Waiting for 21.5.2 vid 👌
Yeap, gonna lay an eye on it soon :D
Let's say you have up to 3600$ - 4200$ budget for a new pc.
What would your pc specs be?
Thats a very big budget. You can get the best
So I should just leave PBO on to do its thing? 5600x + 5700xt with 3600mhz and Infinity Fabric set to 1800. I should be set right?
Use curve optimizer, its tbe best for 5000 series
@@AncientGameplays ok thank you I'll watch your videos on it.
Sounds like the curve optimiser setting is perfect for summer and the manual overclock great for winter?
Not at all, you can see the manual OC temps
Is it normal for clocks to fluctuate down to 3.6ghz back up to 4.7ghz when monitoring? I am using PBO with CO and when I play games and watch my clock they are constantly going all the way down to 3.6 then shooting back up to 4.8-4.9 they don't stay boosted.
From my understanding (take with a pinch of salt) yes that is how it's supposed to work. The clock speed increases or decreases dynamically based on load, and the CPU load in games aren't always constant.
However I will say that with my 8700k I had before my 5900x, this behaviour caused stutters, so I ended up forcing it to have a constant clock speed at all times. This improved performance, and my cooler could handle it. The CPU is still alive and I had it for about 4-5 years.
I'm going to try it with my 5900x soon as I'm once again having stutters.
Tryed Curve Optimizer on 5900X Negative 20 and and some games are unstable, turned it to Negative 10 but on 10 seems a bit useless because achieving around 3-5 degrees more with 5-9 fps difference in cpu games, high end games dont have any changes no matter negative 20 or 10, better use stock for everythink work stable and same performance at all.
Can be used PBO on Enabled without killing it on Advanced so machine automatically gonna push a little bit, no need more, more means unstable or high degrees, this is mania for benchmark peoples.
With the 5900X i advise you to use manual OC if you want lower temps and noise
@@AncientGameplays Sorry for late respond i found best settings for me there, Curve Negative 30 on all cores and Negative 10 on best cores so this dont do crashes and so high curve at same time, PBO limits 162/115/160 so 162 watts, Offset +100 or +200, do stock degrees because the high curve reduce a lot degrees and filling them back with higher PBO Limits.
Ever since I got my 3950x I noticed the stock temps are very high because it's always trying to boost to 4.7ghz, even when just doing light desktop workloads. Is the curve optimiser available for Zen 2 cpus? Sounds like it could solve my temp issues.
I had a 3900X that was a bit hot, but undervolting it with a regular cpu offset reduced my temps by 5-10C and gave me better boosts and temps. You might want to try it since it worked wonderfully for me.
@@elfo7 thank you, I'll try that :)
I do say in the video that it is only for Ryzen 5000. THOUGHT, you can do as said below and do a bit of undervolting yourself and let PBO do the rest :D
You can also do a manual OC
@@AncientGameplays oops must have missed that :/ thanks for the reply I will try that also
Hi bro, I have 5600x with Arctic Freezer 34 Esports DUO.
I check the stats with HWinfo64.
Testing with Cinebench R23.
When my "PBO limit" is on "Motherboard" the themps go to 82, when "Disabled" temps are 66.
I saw that when I set Curve Optimizer to "-30" and PBO boost "+200", the Single core clock is higher "4,841" but the Multi-core goes down around "4,260 - 4,313"... Cinebench multi-core test ~11000 or little lower.
Like I said, if I change "PBO limit" to "Motherboard" the temps go 82 to get higher multi-core clock, but it is not worth it.
If I set PBO to just "Enable", without any other setting, the Single core is ~4,65 but the Multi-core goes up to 4,55, at the cost of 82 degrees, which is not good...
I want to achieve both high Single core and Multi-core with arround 66-70 temps!
Any suggestions?
You do you my friend, you already figured how it works
@@AncientGameplays Come on bro, give me something here... :D
I am using 5700G with OCed ram to 4000mhz.
You recommand using PBO 2.0 Enable/disable/auto or curve optimized ?
Curve optimizer
@@AncientGameplays more info? Which one is that option?
???
As i said before in a different video you helped a lot with my rx580 and now with my rx 6600xt. Now I am waiting for the 5600x to come i have already bought the arctic 280 and i want to know where i can find the static oc bios settings just to lower the temps.
Great!
@@AncientGameplays thank you for answering but is there a specific video for the static oc bios settings. In this video is the curve optimized only if i am not wrong.
This tuning is all about power efficiency.
Well, yes and no. Its about higher frequencies in fact
Quick question. I am wondering which overclock will load my image and video thumbnails to load faster?
My brain just twisted xD
@@AncientGameplays now mine is also twisted by the reply 🙃..
@@marcomongke3116 Twistception
Niceeee! where are you from ?
Portugal
what is the model of the white case?
Which one? The left one?
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can i please download your MSI afterburner setup.... u got the best one , and i was trying to copy it but it look like you when u shave:'D , soo can u please make some google drive download of msi asfterburner ? :> + riva tunner what FONT are you using ? ... thanks a lot
Sorry, but i cant pass that, or everyone would copy it
for me with my 5900x it seems like static overclock(4.65ghz at 1.260v) gives me better results and lower temps(not going above 80c during stress testing). Mind you with curve optimizer mostly all my cores are at -30 with a couple at -25 and my best 3 cores even reached 5 ghz at times. While curve optimize gave me higher clock speeds it also gave me higher voltages at the 1.4v ish range when it pushed and i think thats were the issue might lie. Im still processing how this stuff works. Also with cinnebench r23 was pretty much the results you showed. Static overclock always kept my multicore score above 23000(23300 at best) while curve optimizer at best gave me 22800 though curve optimizer did better in single core at 1600+ while static was around 1550ish. For now im keeping my static till i understand this pbo/curve stuff better. im wondering with pbo should i be messing with vcore/offset settings
This is more of a preference setting lol makes no real difference in games. I go for the curve optimizer as for me with a 5950x setting all cores to a static frequency is much harder then the 5600x as i would need to unlock a lot of power limits. so i just set the optimizer to negative 25 on all but its 4 best cores and negative 16 on its best cores as they are the only cores that can hit 4.9-5ghz. The all core frequency hits 4.2ghz up from 3.980mhz so no OCing so its a decent improvement.
Yeah, in your case the all core OC has a decent boost also! Nice!
what about eco mode? will I lose a lot of fps? it helps with temps, thanks!
Those are different things, those are power saving power plans. Power plans and OC's are different things :D
@@AncientGameplays I meant in PBO curve optimizer, you can select the option Eco mode 45w :)
@@Medsas Oh, haha. More or less the same. Reduce the power limit the clocks will get lower :D
Hello is manual overclock safe For everyday use Or do you recommend PBO? I have a 5950X
I don't recommend any of those. Use Advanced PBO which is curve optimizer and set a negative curve
Curve Optimization is for all core?
All cores or core by core. you choose :D
If I wasn't such a computer tweaker, as that's where like 80% of my joy of PC's and gaming come from (teaking hardware settings and comparing differences), I'd just leave everything stock (except RAM, I'd always enable D.O.C.P. or XMP).
Stock PBO/PBO2, stock boost clocks and probably even stock curve optimizer. It's just too fun. Which, of course, I do the very occasional large file compression and video encoding, along with using OBS to record videos using my CPU since it's a 5900x and I don't lose an ounce of performance that way. Plus there's new AI video encoders out, now, and sure.. you're better off using your GPU (or APU/integrated graphics), but as with all thing encoding, GPU = faster but larger, lower quality files while CPU = slower, but smaller, higher quality files. It just depends on the size of the task at hand.
And to be honest, I don't like letting my 5900x pull 180-200 watts for 3-4+ hours at a time, depending on the job size and settings when the 6700XT can do it in just several minutes.
But as far as gaming goes? My PBO2 + CO settings don't really seem to make a huge difference. I mean, I don't measure every single time, but it's nothing night and day. 3DMark picks up on EVERY little performance gain, so that's where I mainly see gains come from. Other than that, using PBO will let my all core load go from something like 4.3ghz in CPU-z SSE benchmark to 4.625-4.65ghz all core. I mean, that's a nice little jump for an ALL CORE load. But it means going beyond the stock 142w PPT and hitting 165-175 watts. Or in AVX loads, we're talking 200 watts with just a 180a EDC limit (1000w PPT/1000a TDC/180a EDC) which is what "Asus Performance Enhancement sets PBO to automatically and it's what I use because for some reason, manually inputting the same settings gives me worse clock speeds in games while using "APE" gives me higher clock speeds in games lol. At least, this is on an Asus B550-F Gaming Wi-Fi II + 5900x.
Your mileage may vary.
One thing I've NEVER really done is set a static frequency. I can see where it MAY have benefits, but I prefer the boosting in games, for starters. I mean, not since like Bulldozer/Piledriver and CPUs before that. Then, yeah, everything was set to static frequencies :-) Core 2 Duo e6320 @ 1.86ghz OC'd to 3.3xghz won be an overclocking competition on air cooling. Or the Q6600 from 2.4ghz to 3.4-3.6ghz. Or even way back when with the Athlon 64 3400+ s754, it came at 2.4ghz and I ran it at 2.62ghz.
Oh, I do think if you're going to do it, you gotta use curve optimizer with the boost clock and then a voltage offset on the CPU if possible so you can get the MOST out of your boost clocks and temps.
hey Fabio, what do you think is a happy medium when undervolting 5700x with PBO2 CO? I tried -30 (stupid, i know cause it's exceedingly rare to get it to run stable at this value). Unstable after 1 month cuz PC froze during idling while I was calling someone on Discord. Now back to stock although would like to run my CPU to run cooler with CO since it'll make my PC run cooler in general too. Love the content as always, Thank you sir
May i ask what is your cpu voltage to achieve 4.6ghz all core oc? Thanks.
Its on description
at what voltage did you set for manual OC? my 5900x is run’ing cutrently on 1.2v stable i believe when i stress tested peaked 82 degrees.
1.2v is very low actually. I was running 1.28v i think. It says there
My PC running on +200 CO on 7950x3d , MSI pro b650m-A wifi . This normal? It's not stable on default, so I realized the more I increase the CO the more it be stable (note, no thermal throttle or anything)
Hello everyone, Tell me the settings to archive the best FPS result from a Ryzen 5 5600x through Bios with low temps as well
Also, can you guys test and see how my settings are (I believe they are one of the best)
Most important, Curve Optimizer @ Negative 30 All Core (Under AMD Overclock and PBO Advance)
step1) Voltage Offset: +0.0250v
step 2) CPU LLC 2 and
VDDSOC LLC 2
Step 3) CPU Current Capacity @ 110%
Step 4) Dram Current Capability @110%
Step 5) Dram Phase @ Extreme
Step 6) Performance Bias @ Auto
Step 7) A Must, PBO Disabled and PBO Limits Disabled
Step 8 Gear Down Mode: Disabled, Power Down Mode: Disabled
Step 9) A must CPPC Enabled and CPPC Preferred Cores Disabled
Step 10) CPU Max Boost Override @ 0 (zero) and Thermal Throttle limit @ 90c (under AMD Overclock Tab)
Step 11) Core Performance Boost: Enabled
Hey pisco, achas que compensa o Static OC ou mesmo o PBO 2.0 no Warzone? Tenho uma 6600xt, e estou GPU bottlenecked
Viva, o Curve optimizer é o melhor para os novos Chips, static OC "morreu". Consegues aunda resultados melhores que isto. Se queres melhores resultados no warzone instala os drivers 22.5.2
@@AncientGameplays obrigado pela resposta tão célere! Vou então experimentar os teus valores de curve optimizer! Utilizo os que tens no início deste vídeo, ou tens algum "update" aos mesmos?
@@AncientGameplays Boas Fabio, podes testar esta cpu no warzone com oc e sem e em diferentes configurações de clock e latencia de memorias (uso cl18 e já fiz oc e apertei os timings)? Agradeço muito pelo seu trabalho excelente
Need to do an updated video. my 5900x using pbo2 hits 5.2 ghz on most cores. Big boost from the 4.6 all core overclock I had.
Thats a different thing. Higher core count cpus benefit more from CO
What settings did you use for PBO2 on your 5900x? I am currently struggling with CO and tdp limits
@@Venvanse30mg i think edc is 170 the rest are 250. -30 offset on most cores. thermal limit is like 150. plus 200 mhz boost. I let it draw whatever it wants.
Game mode on vs off video with RX 6800 :)
That video will come as soon as i have an APU to test it also :D
Hi, my 5600x gets 256/1970 cb15 and 599/4565 with pbo enabled, around 4,65 GHz both st and mt on air cooling...your 5600x is liquid cooled? I reach 80° in heavy mt bench
PBO is NOT PBO 2.0 (which is curve optimizer). As said in the intro
The moment I sell my msi 1070 I'm gonna get a 5600x lol I can't wait it's gonna go really good with my rx6700xt. Is it possible to test cyberpunk, rdr2 and Assetto Corsa Competizione 1440p?
I have 2 of those tested on my 25 games on rx 6700xt video
So worse performance when OC ?
Depends
Do you have a video how to overclock the cpu? ; s
This one in particular? Not really
@@AncientGameplays Yeah the 5600x, aw : c
Watch the how to oc ryzen 3 3100 video that i have :D
As for voltage, don't go over 1.28v on load
Curve optimization works good on benchmarks less over heat... and better score.. Not for gaming.. IF we got 5900x or 5950x there is benefit more in gaming than with 5600x.
Curve optimizer is better in CPUs with more cores like Ryzen 7 and Ryzen 9 CPUs :D
@@AncientGameplays yeah 2 ccds because of that.. Did u find that in germany 2 older guys have in you tube that 5600x has 2 ccd same as 5900x ? But they are cut... but not all 5600x has 2 ccd. U should find that and search about that.. because 5600x and 5900x is same cpu. lol
@@MakeSh00t I am pretty sure that ALL Ryzen 5 and Ryzen 7 CPUs from the 5th series are 1 CCD only
@@AncientGameplays nope 2ccd are cpu cuted, it is same cpu as 5900x.find review u Will see 2 old man computer expert from germany shows it is 8core cpu 12 thread 5600x find u Will see.. But not all 5600x like this depends on cost how much u paid trust me
@@MakeSh00t I searched and i saw some of them were really cut down Ryzen 9 chips...i assume this is due to chip shortage....otherwise it wouldn't be happening
So what’s the overall best oc overall ….
Just use CO and forget about it
My 5600x arrives tomorrow. Have a custom loop. Im hoping for a 4.7ghz OC. Prolly going with static overclock. How I have my 2700x done.
Its equal as you see. Care with those voltages
@@AncientGameplays The IPC gains worth the switch and avg/min fps will be better. 5800x isn't worth $140 more imho.
@@Odin3v i was talking about the static OC :D
@@AncientGameplays LOL my bad. Was early when i replied.
I have 1.365 on my 2700x
@@Odin3v that was okay for the 2700X, dont go much over 1.28v on this one
What are your temps in prime95 small fft when running static oc?
Excelente vídeo Fabio, se possível poderia fazer um desse de curva otimizado do PBO no 5800x. 👍🏻
Vou tentar fazer um mais tarde para o 5600x, que servirá para os ryzen 5000 todos
What frequency can you achieve at around 1.3-1.325 Volts? With your CPU of course.
You shouldnt push such voltages
@@AncientGameplays but with stock or pbo it still go over 1.4 by itself anyway??
I see no difference with curve optimiserat 20 or overclocking for 200mz or both at the same time and even with ram at 2666 vs 3600 i see no difference no matter what is that normal?
if you are severly GPU bottlenecked then RAM won't affect average FPS
The only setting that was the most effective for me was to just set PBO to disabled and then use Curve Optimizer on all cores to -20. Didn't bother with AutoOC at all. The result was 7-8 C less temperature while gaming and the average fps stayed about the same.
Whats the max temp i should have
75C tops in gaming
@@AncientGameplays ok thanks mate
What would u recommend
i5 9400F or ryzen 3500
Main priority is gaming
I wouls recommend the 10400f actually if possible, with a z490
@@AncientGameplays Im not rich enough to afford Z series mobo
@@unknownexposer8399 z490 is older gen...its quite cheaper nowadays...
is it worth overclocking the 5600x to 4.7 ghz or i should go with normal pbo ?
well, you can see the results more or less the same here :)
Hi Fabio,
Got my 5600x few days ago and cant figure the good way to use Curve Optimizer.
In this scenario, was CU + PBO positive offset or were you using AutoOC offset?
Or can yoy use them at the same time? Its confusing 😩
Been fiddling with my CPU for the past days and compared to 3700x its nightmare to find best settings
You dont mess with voltages at all. You go to the curve optimizer menu and always select negative curve of -10 (some samples go lower), then put 100MHz boost and select mobo limits in terms of power if your mobo is at least decent
Also, you dont need "best settings" for this cpu, as you can see it performs way better than the 3700x :D
can you please make a detailed OC settings & Curve optimizer settings for 5800x? Thanks :))
What about 5800X PBO On vs Off in gaming, because the 5800X is very hot CPU so if there is less then 5% differences in FPS i will take lower temps.
PBO and Curve Optimizer are slightly different. For example in this case, STOCK is with the "normal" PBO (which is activated by default). You want lower temps, get a better cooler (ofc) and undervolt with CO, or simply just undervolt with static voltage
@@AncientGameplays ofc i have freezer 2 360mm which is good, but i am just asking if anyone want a small case with a mix of gaming and editing with 5800X.
What voltage did you use for your static 4.6 oc?
It is said everywhere :D
1.268v
@@AncientGameplays thanks, I usually watch these types of videos on my TV which can't see comments or video descriptions. I eventually found it in the description after I posted the question.
Love your vids man especially the intros. Keep doing your thing 👍
You're welcome my man.
А чё нельзя было показать как разгон делать?
what is the max safe voltage for 24/7 use oc on the 5600x
around 1.28v under load
@@AncientGameplays is 1.325 bad for 24/7 ?
@@squizi7090 yeap, ryzen 5000 need less voltage, under 1.3v if possible
I've heard of "CTR 2.0" for overclocking/undervolting automatically and getting the best possible results, have you tryed it? can we expect a video on it?
You should do this for ryzen 5 5600! 🤓
It's the same my friend
@@AncientGameplays Yeah, I've realized, it arrived today so I tested it out. Thought that maybe there's going to be a bit more of a difference overclocking it than with the 5600x but it's all marginal. 😅
TLDR: Don't bother Overclocking / Undervolting the 5600X
Thats it for like 99% of scenarios yes
Why does this man look like Jesus?
And the hair is not fully grown haha
Oooo hot one
Thanks for being here
I got 5650mhz with curve optimizes hitting a maximum of 1.2v, I can say it's a good cpu
Not bad at all if on all cores
@@AncientGameplays I got 5725 with 1.2v at full load, more than that the temperature goes to beyond with a gamax 400
curve
-30-30-20 -30-15 -30
pubg mobile rx470 >>>1080p good ?1440p i thnk?
"MOBILE", is an RX470 slower than a phone? Think
CPUs are tested on min. graphics, without bottlenecking in GPU
False, we came to a point in performance that testing at High settings is the way to go (not at ultra though). Still, that is IF your testing CPUs for the best available case and here we're testing for normal scenarios. I have lots of previous CPU comparisons and I do them that way, but not here. Also, you can clearly see that most of these games AREN'T GPU bottlenecked at 1080P, and yet the perf difference is basically none
On my 5900x pbo+curve optimizer is way too hot but i see 10fps increase. I’m currently running my 5900x on CTR 2.1 1.175v 4.6ghz on ccx1 and 4.4ghz on ccx 2 and hybrid oc activated with 4-6 cores running at 4.8ghz 1.35v depending in load.
1.75v? That is a mistake i am certain. Also, Curve Optimizer IS PBO, just a better one. BTW, you need to select a negative curve always
@@AncientGameplays the figures i listed are the setting that Clock Tuner For Ryzen gave me.
On curve optimiser unigine valley gave me 127fps and 66c temps on 1440p with 5700 XT
On CTR 2.1 im get the same fps with unigine valley at 1440p but way cooler temps with only 50c and cpu @ 1.175v 4.6ghz on my 5900x
@@pinoyxbox 1.75v is literally impossible, your CPU would have melted. I assume it is a missreading
@@AncientGameplays oh god im terribly soory fabio. Why am i blind and can’t type numbers!!!!!
I meant 1.175 omg im sorry 😅
@@AncientGameplays editing it now damnit lol