Reliability issues PORSCHE Macan S / Turbo | Still much better than all compact SUVs
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- Porsche Macan S / Turbo models with oil leak problems. dealer charges up to 9k for this oil leak repair. This on the Porsche generation 3.0 L v6 and 3.6L V6. This does not applie 2019 0r the VW 4 cylinder engine
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FYI, this issue has been addressed by porsche via service bulletin and the timing cover leaks can now be permanently fixed with a few updated bolts within an hour of work. No costly engine out repair needed, pretty easy repair to do at home.
Thank you for making and sharing this video. I change my mind on this car and will be getting something more reliable.
Same here. Almost pull on the trigger on buying one. Thank you! Great honest review!
Keep it up ! You are telling the truth . We need more honest mechanics like you
Great review and highlight of main issues with Macan. Thanks. One thing to share is that DePetro (Porsche North America product manager) confirmed multiple times, on record, that no less than 70% of the Macan is unique to Porsche... and is not interchangeable with the Q5.
I purchased a used 2018 Macan S knowing that it had a timing cover oil leak. Got it fixed under factory warranty by the local Porsche dealer. It’s a big job, requires the front bumper to be removed, a multitude of parts, some flown in from Germany. At the time I pushed to replace the alternator since oil had leaked into it, but Porsche said it wasn’t needed. A month later the alternator failed and Porsche replaced it. Having come from a 911 which I rarely drove, my Macan has become great daily driver. Luxurious and fast, I smile every time I drive it. Historically speaking, oil leaks and Porsches are nothing new. These are performance cars produced in relatively low volumes. Reliability isn’t bad but nothing like high volume Toyotas or Hondas. My advice is to buy your Macan under factory warranty and get it properly sorted on Porsche’s tab. If you’re out of warranty and the pan is catching a smaller oil leak, I’d just let it go and enjoy the car.
Do the extended warrantees do anything?
@@TaeKim11 I bought an extended warranty for my Macan. The platinum package I believe and yes it was covered under that. If you go to Porsche’s website it will explain what it cover’s under the different tiers of extended warranty’s. Worth it for the peace of mind IMO.
@@fishw9507 How much was the platinum for Macan? I didn't buy my Porsche at a Porsche dealership but tis still under factory warranty so I can add it on. No pricing info anywhere !
@@ryanmatthew511 it’s was 5050 for the 7 year 85000 mile. It was on a 2017 base Macan I imagine could be a lil more depending on trim.
@@fishw9507 Yaah..just got the same quote. or $3600 for 3 year 60,000. Mine has 14,000 miles and 6 months left
i was dreaming to get this suv from last one year but u gave me my answer thank you
Sounds like me too on the GTS… Guess I’ll just walk away with the Lexus. Boring is good…
Can you make a video of you fixing this issue? Replacing the bolts?
I've read that these oil leaks seem to be happening more on the 2017 and up. Is that what you are seeing on your side? Thank you.
Appreciate the heads up I am struggling to source a Cayenne and noticed one of these with the V6 engine. We'll walk away, but hey have to call you out on the Boxster / 911 comment that's a silly statement considering what componentry share (718 4 pots excluded of course)!
Are you replacing the oem aluminum timing cover bolts with steel ones?
Is there any year/model Macan you would recommend? I have a 2018 cpo base with only 30k coming up to expire warranty, is it smart to dump?? Thanks for sharing your expert opinion.
In other words, these are vehicles to be leased and given back. Not purchased. That cost to repair the timing belt leak is scary. Thanks for the video!
and at that price point, its insane that they have this many problems. i read a review earlier where someone said they have nonstop issues with their $200k R8.
Okay you got me as a subscriber lol, I will say I traded my 4 door Sahara for 2016 Macan S and just went in to get the oil changed from my mechanic (who’s awesome just so amazing and honest) and same thing. It has oil leaks. Coolant leaks. Thank the universe the original owner bought the 10 year extended warranty. I love this car but maybe right before the warranty is up it’s time to trade it!
Long story short, if you bought pre owned called Porsche I was pleasantly surprised to hear the one other owner bought the Powertrain 10 year.
That's a great point! I think the original owners of Macan's Cayenne's 911's ect are likely to be reliability conscious and get a warranty beyond the standard one. Or you can find one that shows that Porsche has serviced those common issues post 50K. How did you find out there was that much warranty left? To me that is the life of the car! What a steal! Congrats.. 🤠
Spot on, I had all the problems you mentioned and more, have not reached 80K KM yet, I took care of it like one of my kids, its faulty from the origin what a shame.
v6 or 4cyl?
Would the CPO warranty cover the oil leaks you found on this Macan?
This is a good video. Real info!
Thank you for sharing the information. :-) What Car or SUV you think is very reliable or you hardly see in your shop? Thank you and Keep up the great job! :-)
What about for Macan 2019 and up. Are they regulars to shop?
Nice video to watch if you thinking of buying a pre owned Macan. Any experience with the diesel engine in the Macan?
yeah, the gas costs double.
Can you please tell me something on the reliability of bmw x5 m 40 I,engine, transmission and electronics,thanks
So the Cayenne is all/mostly Porsche vs Audi in terms of engine and suspension? Thanks for the video!
THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO!!!
You are welcome!
Yeah those timing covers keep us busy. We’ve been doing one every week.
Curious about the HPFP diluting the oil with fuel. What mileage are you seeing those failures?
60k plus and as erly as 50k
29000, at 39th month. 9K Repair
2017 S
I have a '17 S with the same issues. It pisses me off. What kind of issues do the Audi V6 engines have? I love the car, but the TCC and TC issues are seriously expensive to fix.
I dodged a bullet. Almost bought a CPO macan not too long ago and last minute changed my mind and went with a Cayenne S. This video was validation of that decision. Thank you
I was about to buy one today 😑
Me too 😂😂😂
Hows the cayenne s reliability/maintance
@@amosthomas7948 great so far after 15k miles just regular maintenance. There was a transfer case recall that the dealership took care of but other than that smooth sailing.
@@anthonye1028 enjoy!!
What year Macan does oil leak happens to and does it happen in the base model as well?
We have a Cayenne S and was thinking about trying out a Macan GTS next time. So your saying stick with the Cayenne?
So I’ve got a 17 turbo with only 17000 miles had a oil change only 1500 miles ago like 5 months ago and now I’m Getting low 1 quart ⚠️ oil warning?! Why is it burning so much oil or do I have a leak? Under warranty currently a CPO
Yes thanks I was checking in on these machines are these only happening to the McCann s turbos have you seen the GTS having this issue assuming it would
Any oil leak issues on GTS?
Great video. I have a 35k miles on my 2015 Macan S and don't see this issue yet. Maybe still early or just lucky.
I have 97k on mine no leaks so far
how’s the new MacanS - specifically gen III’s post 2022?
Is there any way to prevent that from happening. Does prevention cost less than repair. Thank you for video.
hey did you fix it, and how much did you charge for that work.
I was considering selling my Cayenne to downsize into a Macan Turbo performance edition. Not so sure now.
What about the cayenne transfer case?
2015/16 macan turbo or 2010-2013 Cayenne Turbo? which is more reliable?
Still Absolutely LOVE my Macan S ...got mine fixed under warranty!
They are very nice SUVs. Glad you are enjoying it
@@TopAutomotiveInc I just found a pool of oil under my Macan s. I really hope it’s not a big bill. What did it cost to fix this one?
What about the Macan diesel, still same oil leak issues?
Do the 2023 macan Gts have this issue?
Hi, how about the 2.0L based Macan 2016-2017? Are they reliable? Thanks in advance
yeah they are more reliable but personally I got a 3.0L because I like more performance
I just bought a 2020 Macon S, didn't do a ton of research on this model but hoping it's as much or more enjoyable then my MB GLC300 was. any tips or suggestions is appreciated...
how do 2019 macan s, with 3.0 liter rate?
Would you say a Cayenne more reliable? Same years
So glad I sold my 2017 Macan S before all the problems came.
Can you do a video on why the Cayenne over the Macan
I was looking at a 2018 macan s with 60k on it. I saw on consumer reports it ranked really well. Dealer maintained and everything I’m just hesitant if I should go for it or not. Did they fix these issues in the 2018?
Where you guys are located?
Has the Macan 3.0 TDI this problem???
how about the 2017 Macan GTS?
how much does this issue/repair cost?
I’ve been out in mine with my 2 daughters, dog, pram plus grandson in his car seat. This definitely is OK for a family. Only issue I had was transfer box went at 30,000 miles. Porsche refused to fix so I would never deal with them again and take mine to a specialist workshop where it’s serviced every 12 months not 20,000 miles which is way too long and will cause issues in itself. I’ve had it for 4 years and it’s performed flawlessly since the initial problem. It’s a 2015 diesel with 73,000 miles on the clock to date.
I was looking at used Macan Turbos with 60k miles or so. I'm guessing you wouldn't recommend that. I love the idea of the smaller size but with all that power of the Turbo. Cayenne might be a bigger vehicle than I want. The Cayennes are really that much more reliable? Haven't see those leaks? And if you were looking for a used Macan or Cayenne, what would be the mileage you're looking for? In other words, how many miles is too many?
Macan turbo before 2019 is nice. If you have bolt issue just have it fix. They are fine. If you have ever owned an audi Q5, Macan frame, electronics, suspension is all Audi in the DNA.
My friend is at 60k on his 2015 Turbo. Currently it’s in the shop for its second oil leak! 😩 The dealer that original fixed the leak is repairing it again as a good will repair so at least he doesn’t have to pay for it
@@charlesbcraig Yeah, based on everything I've been learning, it seems like the route I'm taking has more downside than upside. Maybe I should wait until I can afford to lease brand new or relatively new, so reliability and maintenance isn't even a concern.
@@TopAutomotiveInc Thanks for response!
Cayennes do not drive as sporty as Macans. And they're much more expensive new. If you have a budget for a Macan, and you want a Macan, then get a Macan
Thank you.
Can you make a vid on your fix for this issue ? I thought Porsche are going to fix this issue? With good will
Would be nice, only under warranty
No car is perfect, no car has no complaints!!
Would you recommend an Acura RDX, Honda Passport, or BMW X3 over a Porsche Macan base?
As much as the G01 BMW X3 rides nicely.. it too (with the 4c turbo) is NOT reliable as well imho though ymmv.. perhaps when you get a 2020 X3 30i and beyond or the the M40 perhaps are better but mine has serious coolant leak issues.. "fixed" for now but still looking to sell.
@@kacatley9258 Are you upgrading to a Porsche or Acura?
I have had to replace the transfer case twice in first 27K miles on my 2015 Macan S. First time Porsche reimbursed me $3,000 for the repair when they extended the warranty on this part to 7 years due to so many problems with their transfer cases. @nd transfer case I will need to pay for because I am 6 weeks past the 7 year warranty. Seems many owners are starting to replace for 2nd time. Porsche should be recalling the Macans for this issue. Very disappointed with Porsche taking ownership of their faulty transfer cases.
Replacement transfer cases do not fix the problem. They just keep breaking infinitely. Shame on Porsche on this one.
@@salimrandall exactly!!! Shame on Porsche. The brand is not a premium brand anymore.
You should have sold it after they fixed it. That was your sign.
Stop driving the shit out of it. Change the transfer case fluid once in a while. They last longer.
What do you think about the 2.9L V6 bi-turbo 381HP Macan engine? Is it good and what issues to expect? That, I read, will be in the new Macan III S and I'm eyeballing it.
2019 and up are all VW engines. Not a fan at all. 2018 and older are the Porsche engines.
@@TopAutomotiveInc your vid description says the oil leak problem does not apply to 2019 and newer, so sound like at 2021 GTS doesnt have this issue?
@@TopAutomotiveInc yeah..BUT its the 2018 and older leaking like crazy! 2018 and older that has the transfer case warranty. Maybe the Porsche engines are not good fit in an SUV priced for middle class.
Top Auto Nick you confuse me and contradict yourself... im thinking to buy a 2016 Cayenne GTS, which is V6 3.6l. You say get a Turbo or a GTS but stay away from V6. What do i understand now? Is the GTS good or not? I dont find any bad things about it on internet... the Turbo same year is the same price, but i really like the GTS for design and lower ride.
958.1 GTS is a V8 NA non turbo. Turbo cayenne is a V8 twin turbo as well. No contradiction
@@TopAutomotiveInc i said GTS 2016 as 2016 it is the 958.2 which is V6 3.6l as i said above... How is the 958.2 V6 in ur opinion?
How many miles does this issue usually occur / re-occur at?
Two of the bolts on my 2015 S timing chain cover popped between 75-80k
Yeesh. Such a minor issue. A weep not even a leak that registers between oil changes. Afternoon self fix. Not easy to extract the broken bolt sometimes.
Oooh makes me nervous 😬
I’m just about to sell my Macan S for a cayman S
Must check under!!
If this is a recently purchased CPO, why is it in your shop and not being repaired under warranty?
Because independent shops can perform CPO warranty repairs as well. This job was not covered by the CPO due to bolt failure. They only cover major compenets, don't be fooled by the CPO warranty (It's a third party warranty and not the same as OE) sometimes it's a joke! Always read the fine print. That will be a different video.
Exactly! We do CPO cars at my shop all the time as well, the CPO warranties are typically a 3rd party, the one I see the most is Silverrock, but they try to get out of paying alot of the prices
@@TopAutomotiveInc I will now be following your channel
This video actually helped me today with an audi, came in leaking from the timing cover 50k miles
Nice video. Why are the base cayennes garbage?
Vr6 VW engine ls are not good, only are ok on Golf
@@TopAutomotiveInc what engine does the s get?
I own a 911 and a $9000 bill to fix the oil leaks raised both my eyebrows!
My prick went the other direction however.
What generation of 911 and model did you have those oil leaks on?
@@gabeh7373 The much maligned 996. I have a very early build (March 1998). It was set up as a track car by Brumos Porsche when it was new. I really like the car. The headlights don't bother me.
That's cool that makes sense since it was such an early build.... no more leaks though after you had it fixed?
@@gabeh7373 I have had no leaks from my car. I was commenting that 9k is a steep price to pay and I would have to think about dropping that much into my car. 9k is close to 50% of its value.
Used 2016 Macan S,
Metallic Mahogany,
Leather Luxor Beige Interiors, 83,000 miles,
3 previous owners.
I may be the 4th.
"There's a sucker born every minute." - P.T. Barnum
I think I'll pass.
Oh yeah!!
Base model is fine for me and I have lots of familiarity with that 2.0 they use in the A4/Q5 and its actually a really good engine, very reliable. I never had an issue. Who cares if it doesn't accelerate quite as fast. Still fun to drive and won't break as much
I have experience too with the vw 2.0 Audi rebuilt my motor because of piston ring gap
@user-kq8gy9xd5v can’t you blast that out at 40,000 miles before it gets bad.
@@ryanmatthew511 Yes, but many people don’t do that.
@@ryanmatthew511how’s the ride? is it comfortable and quiet?
@@afarrel3195 smooth as silk and one of the quietest cars in out there
I have been reading the 2.0L is junk, the 3.0L is okay and the 3.6L is pretty good. Would you agree for the most part? If you were looking for a 4-6 year old car, low mileage and wanted to keep it under $60,000 what would you recommend? I have a 2011 CTS V Coupe now with 92,000 and have had very few issues. Definitely keeping it but want an SUV also. Thanks
Same here. Considering a new Macan S. What did you go with?
Buy a Lexus !
So, way do you recommend, I want to get out of my 14 grand cherokee with 72k miles for something newer with 50k or less miles, 40 grand or less usd, still performance oriented, can tow a little bit (small enclosed with 2 supermotos)
My friend just picked up a 2016 Macan S with 55k miles for $35k otd. I’m picking a Turbo model for the same price. They’ll still tow 5,000 lbs. just get a nice warranty
You would be surprise how often Hondas need repairs, I sell service for them and it’s insane I used to think they were very reliable. The point is you gotta take care of your vehicle no matter the brand. Also do yearly maintenance to make sure you’re fine.
Can you tell me what bolts to use as replacements on the timing belt cover? I don't want to put those darn aluminum ones back in!
We have them custom ordered
@@TopAutomotiveInc where do you get them custom? Have a link you can connect me with? Would appreciate it 🙏
5 years almost 100k miles no issue at all?
Maybe oil changed at every 5k could prevent oil leak!?
The leak should be fixed under CPO warranty
Warranty probably expired for years or mileage.
What's the root cause of the oil leak? Replacing seals just means they will fail again.
2 aluminum bolts on the timing belt cover.
2017 is better than 2018 since ‘18 is Audi engine?
Yep, two years ago my 2015 S popped a couple bolt heads off the timing chaing cover @80k and was out of warrenty. Was able to get the parts through Gaudin Porsche of Las Vegas for like 1000 clams. However, the 3 days of 'engin out' labor was a bit more expensive, lol. Whole job cost me little over 5k!
I'm wondering if I should hang on to my 2018 GTS? Bought new and under 5k miles.
@@SinCityAMG guess it depends on your warranty status. From what I've heard I think more of the 15-17 had the issue. However, there are cases of 18s as well. Only real way to avoid is get the newer 2.9 engine, I guess.
Just buy a lexus. Luxurious and Japanese
I did mine for $3 in an afternoon.
Call it myth or differently spec oil, i own Mercedes with M272 known for pcv cover leak , in one i used liqui moly and other mobil 1, castrol, one with liqui moly high mile don’t leak, and other just leaks, and changed 3 pcv covers.
So what year macan is best to buy?
I am following. Please let us know. Thanks
How to fix the leaks please make a video on that please
The oem timing cover bolts are aluminum. They need to be replaced with steel ones.
Second time I broke my timing cover in 1 year 7k miles. Paid $4k, 2 year unlimited mile warranty. I’m going to fight with Porsche america and prolong the warranty
I drive 2018 Macan Turbo Performance, rn car runs great but I’m concerned after watching your videos...
Dont worry about it, if it leaks it can be fixed
but for a price... a likely hefty one at that! Maybe ask Z in Ukraine for a loan hmm... lol @@TopAutomotiveInc
Dont think this engine is Porsche designed, that v6 look just like my old audi b6 A4 with AVK none turbo v6 engine...??
0:33 is that audi logo I see?
hmmmm, you say the audis will leak all over but my parents have owned audis since 2013 and never had an oil problem, they had the 2.0T the 3.0 supercharged and the 4.0TT
Same here. Audi has run deep in my family for 10 years... MOSTLY 2.0s..like the nice ride dont need the crazy acceleration. NO ISSUES NOT EVER.. why do they get a bad wrap?
2016 Macan Turbo with 24,000 km - just got an oil leak
i am so glad i saw this video. im just another woman who wants one lol but now knowing all of this i am staying far away from them. to have to pay $9000 for porsches fuck up is just wrong imo. so sad, i have waited for my shitty jeep lease to be up to get a macan s and now idk what im gonna get.
Amazing! No need to do anti-rust treatment with all those oil leaks! 😅
Yeah. I service these a lot and 90% of them leak from timing cover.
So what is the root cause? It seems weird to just keep replacing a failing part.
@@Talasas VW Manufaktur. Poor quality.
Are Audi Q5's reliable like 2021 or 2022?
Want reliable? Go Lexus-Toyota
I am sure they are not. It's just that they are not old enough to show issues.
Imagine thinking that’s an “engine cover” and that it’s designed to catch oil..😂 Jk, know what you meant. What year cayenne would you go with? What year trim macan?
The louvers have nothing to do with fuel economy. They are supposed to remain closed to hasten, the cars warm up. And then open via a thermostat once it’s reached operating temperature.
"$9000 to fix the oil leak" What the fuck?
wow, surprised the germans built this so poorly. 10 years with my toyota 4runner, zero issues.
So Nick, which is a good vehicle base on your experience? thank you and great video
This please!
I have a Macan S. It’s not $9000 to repair that leak. It’s covered, Porsche will repair it at no cost, even if the car is out of warranty.
May I know what year is your macan? Considering buying one. Thanks
2018 @@allcarephysicaltherapy-xl3cc
I was just about to buy one with 85k miles on it for 30k but nope! Macan turbo should have been very reliable but clearly it isn't. I guess another used AMG is the way to go Mercedes is definitely the most reliable German brand
Macan to avoid 2016 2017 2018 the macan safe to buy is 2019 and up and the 2015 not bad but not good also
i have own BMW and porsche 911 and it seem the Germans cant make a care that doesn't leak oil.
Wait did he just say 9000 to fix a oil leak
Lmaoo I’ll pass
Yep, was a current price at the dealer. It's an engine out job. I hear from customers its 11k now.
Not impressed with Porsche. Aluminum bolts? Known issue they let linger. Same as the IMS. Should have never put them in production and then they let that known issue linger for years. Check this out: "IMS bearing can and will fail if not replaced as part of regular maintenance". IMS replacement is a maintenance items?