The Haunting of Bly Manor Episode 9 'The Beast in the Jungle' REACTION!! (Part 2)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ต.ค. 2024
- The dream is done, yet danger prevails. Hannah summons the courage to act. A fate worse than death threatens everyone at Bly. Who will pay the price? Here's part 2 of our reaction to episode 9 of The Haunting of Bly Manor.
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Hi Stikker Fam!!!! Feel like this is a great example of what happens when we watch episodes back-to-back… The intro conversation was lacking a little, in my opinion. And not going to lie, the ending was very confusing on the first watch but it became clear afterwards as we talked it out. The “older” Owen casting is probably what threw us off the most… He looked younger and was shorter. That said, we know that was the family Jamie was telling the story to, just wish they make it a little more obvious and totally get they didn't want to spoil their show in episode 1.
Since she changes the name of the manor to "Bly Manor", she probably changes all the names of the people involved, including the description of those people so that it won't be so obvious to the Flora and Miles. She just wants to tell the story so Dani's memory would leave on but yet won't let the kids know the story is actually about them... This is probably why Older Owen and Older Henry look NOTHING like the people in the story because in the story is kinda like a re-enactment. Look at it like when "Law & Order" tells a real life story, they hire actors to tell the story, and the actors don't really look like the real people in the story.
@@TheZone316 I made this same point on the part 1 video, but you said it so much more concisely. Well done.
Oh ok, Thanks. =D I watch Part 2 first, probably why didn't see the comment. lol.
Yeah she changed details like names when she told the story, what we saw was the version she told not necesarily exactly as it was. The people at the wedding was the real versions of the characters only older.
If you listen closely at 5:16 you can hear ghost music!
The finale felt like a funeral. It messed me up for days.
Its been weeks for me. 😭
It’s been months for me...
@@desireestoddard4219 same.
@@desireestoddard4219 same
@@desireestoddard4219 same :(
Dani's eyes changed when she invited Viola, you can see it happening to Miles earlier when he got possessed by Peter.
Rebecca's eyes did the same
*The eyes are the windows to our souls
Pardon for the errors on the quote
This episode is a story about something bigger: how people live on after they die. Viola became a monster. Hannah was a saint in Owen's eyes and Dani was a loved one and savior in the memories of Jamie - and now, thanks to the story Jamie tells, she will live on in Flora's memories. Hopefully she won't fade for a while longer.
It was a really emotional, tragic story but still happy in the end.
Beautifully summed up!
that scene where jamie was screaming in the water when seeing dani breaks me I swear
That was honestly too much, I can’t
It was tragic
if you watch her mouth movements she's screaming "it's you, it's me, it's us"
I've watched it four times and sobbed every time. It gutted me
the older jamie became her own version of viola, because she would walk, she would sleep, she would wake for the rest of her life waiting for dani to return 😭💔
i understand your feelings that the deaths no longer had meaning bc they were just "on Viola's path", but for me it speaks to the very real and more terrifying truth that people's lives are often ruined by strangers' unresolved issues and just happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Agreed, it’s a cruel fact of death. It just happens- no beforehand resolution, no warning signs, no count down. People just get unlucky, run out of time.
Same with my grandpa, he just fall down in his house alone and didn’t get back up. He never smoked in his life, never drank, never had a long term medicinal condition, rarely ever needed a doctor cause he took care of himself his entire life.
Just seventy years of being the picture of health and he dropped dead soon after.
Same with Viola, she couldn’t predict her sister would smother her to death. She knew the sickness was present as much as she denied it was getting worse. But she couldn’t have known she should’ve just kicked her sister out of her room that night. Then she might’ve lived. But she didn’t. And that was it.
Yeah, after all most people's deaths don't actually have meaning, the vast majority of people just die.
@@violetraven8323 viola should have treated her sister better, and actually learn to let her position go, to recognize that her husband and her daughter needed a woman in shape to deal with their lives. She could still be there though, and frankly before letting other woman in, accepting and actually serving as the wingwoman to her own sister was far better, both for all of them and for her lineage and house alltogether. Had she, well, everyone’s lives would have rendered better, far better.
One of the best traits people can have is self awareness and being judgemental, when they are not, and worse, they add selfishness and/or hollow pride, the recipe of a disaster is well served.
Why is everyone like "what happened to the parents? They never answered that!" - they died in an accident in India, that's it, not everyone is killed by ghosts, some people just die :P
Right? I see this everywhere. It was already explained
If that’s enough detail for you, cool. I was curious to know more. Has nothing to do with ghosts I just wanted to know what happened. They put a lot of focus on an accident.
thanks!!!! it was a story about Bly Manor, not about an accident somewhere in India
@@NikkiStevenReact One of the actors (I think Henry Thomas) said on instagram that they died in a plane crash. That's why there were no bodies as well.
I saw where someone actually said they were eaten by tigers.. that would have been something 😥
All the characters that was told by the “older” Jamie is different from their older versions even their names and the name of “Bly manor” was changed by Jamie because she didn’t want to expose the whole story as “a real story” to the older flora.
I’m sure the details were close enough for the others to say something. No reaction from old Henry? It was done that way to not spoil the show.
@@NikkiStevenReact I think Owen and Henry didn't react to it that much, because it would be too suspicious and "older" Flora and Miles could catch on that. But still "older" Jamie wanted to share the story of her lover and of Hannah, so that kids would know without actually knowing that they are THE kids. It was a little tribute to their loved ones.
Exactly, well said. Also if you go back to ep 1, Owen even encourages Jaime to tell her 'ghost' story
you can tell henry and especially owen knows she’s telling the story by the way he looks at her and rests his hand on her arm for a brief moment
When older Jamie announces she has a ghost story to tell in Ep 1, you see older Henry and Owen move in as subtly threatening her to stay quiet, and she pauses a second and gives them an “oh, very well” look as if resetting her story. Also, when older Jamie is telling the story, she never uses names, only their occupations (the cook, the au pair, etc).
Think the reason Dani went out so quick was she realized the kids forgot her ... All the ghost of Bly started losing themselves as soon as ppl forgot them .
Could also be because Dani is as strong willed as Viola, so it took time. I know there's no correlation between the two - but I found it interesting that Viola survived an entire 5 years with consumption, and 5 years for her to start consuming Dani... Well, give or take.
Edit - kind of forgot they said she had five years of peace, but Flora was 17 when they were at the diner. So that's 9 yrs I believe... My bad.
@@kitsulu8576 Viola didn't die from consumption. She died from her sister's hands.
@@SpiderMan-ni8ek I know that. Regardless it was 5 years. I meant she was able to survive that long with the bacterial disease - tuberculosis. You know what I meant, you just have to be a detail correction keyboard warrior 😅😧 so annoying.
@Ciara Milne When? What I remember is Jamie saying "I know we can't really get married, but we can wear the rings..and we will know" 🤷
@@kathleenclark815 When Jaime found Dani staring into the overflowing tub. Jamie had just come home with their Civil Union paperwork. Vermont was the first State to allow civil unions in July of 2000 so that's the earliest it could've been.
What a great series! I love these! I’m still not over Dani giving herself for the sake of everyone else 😭💗
It was an incredibly tragic story that’s still happy somehow in the end
@@NikkiStevenReact It's beautifully bittersweet, is what I said when I finished it.
Nikki & Steven The ring in the potted plant (earth) is a flip side to the (spoiler haunting of hill house) the ring in the champagne flute (water) from hill house. Dani gave the ring 💍 to Jamie and her final resting place is in the water. In Hill House, Nell's husband's final resting place is in earth. If season 3 has a proposal from a mistletoe (air) then that's (reciting four elements to myself) ....then realization.
-The parents weren't able to encounter Viola because Bly Manor was a summer house while she only walks around by a specific season.
-I think Jamie used Flora's middle name (and maybe changed Miles') because she didn't want to imply it was their fault if they happen to remember it while she was telling the story. More like she wants to share the story and silently gave tribute to Dani.
-The kids must've suppressed the events during that time because children would usually tuck away events that had traumatized them so they forgot everything.
Where did the show say Viola’s visits ignore summer? She showed up multiple times while Dani was there. Not once ever while the parents lived there?
@@NikkiStevenReact I think that we are supposed to infer that Viola only comes out for a number of nights every few decades otherwise there would be a lot more victims/ghosts at Bly. When we were in Flora's memory of her mom and Henry, Henry mentioned having a ghost as a friend, the soldier, who wasn't of the same time period. Dominic and Henry presumably never saw her when they were kids.
If Viola came during the summer the parents would of been killed since they slept in "Viola's bedroom". The show is presumably taking place during the "school year" since Miles was kicked out of boarding school.
@@NikkiStevenReact Oh sorry that was my bad in poor choice of words. Remember when Hannah moped the muddy footprints? She had mentioned that it happens once or twice a year and she killed people that were in the way of her path. Either the Wingraves weren't at Bly at that time by pure luck or she doesn't kill people who're sleeping or doesn't seem bothersome because she ignored the patient in the bed during the plague and killed the vicar who was walking up to her instead.
In episode 2 start : “the housekeeper was no stranger to the muddy footprints. A “few times”each year....”
Episode 6: Charlotte gave “the talisman” to flora. For safety and happiness.
@@annabanana7659 Jamie explained it at the end of her story:, "you never know when she wakes. How long her sleeps last...." then gets poetic about her spirit. The details are not intended to matter tho
I might be a bit late but Owen´s quote in the beginning of the show really reflect the love between Owen and Hannah and Jamie and Dani . " To truly love another person is to accept that the work of loving them is worth the pain of losing them" - Owen.
I like to think that the wedding ring is inscribed with a phrase: "It's you. It's me. It's us."
Loved the haunting of hill house and bly manner. I've never had such an emotional connection and reaction to tv shows before.
As long as you’re able to get past the fact that Bly is very different than Hill House you’ll love Bly. The story is incredible.
this comment..... all of it, i feel the SAME way!
The fact Jamie is wearing the shirt she was sleeping in when she goes back to Bly shows she wasted no time trying to get to Dani. Such a great, and heartbreaking, love story.
Remember when Hannah said “Love is not possession”
This was shown perfectly between the contrast of Jamie and Dani and Peter and Rebecca. You have Peter possessing Rebecca to kill her so she’d be with him and then you get Dani who sacrificed herself for the children and refused to possess Jamie. She walked away because she was scared she would hurt her.
What a beautiful story this was, I was bawling watching it again with you guys😂 The Haunting series is shaping up to be one of the best TV shows of all time! Yeah I said it!
Whenever someone was possessed, one of their eyes changed color. This has been consistent throughout but it was a little subtle.
"Owen" (whatever his real name was) said it in episode one. Love means accepting that the joy of being with someone is worth the pain of having to let them go. Because odds are, one of you will outlive the other.
I think Jaimie was wrong--there is NO Lady in the Lake anymore. When Dani died, she set Viola free. And ever since Jaimie came back to Bly Manor, Dani has been with her (not everyone can see ghosts, and sometimes it takes the ghost to make themselves seen--as Peter did with Rebecca).
Dani did the thing we all (?) hope we would do--jump in the way and take a bullet when an innocent was threatened. She did a lot more, releasing a dozen people or more from a very real kind of Hell. And the bullet didn't hit for over a dozen years (her and Jaimie were in Vermont, which legalized same sex civil unions in 2000). She is the HERO of this story.
"You died because you were in the way" is exactly how so many people DO die. That is the point.
well said!
It’s so sad that Dani took the fall for everyone. She sacrificed everything.
Yeah, it’s a tragic story but happy too.
but it is precisely her sacrifice that breaks the curse, viola chose the path of hate and lost herself, already dani sacrificed her life because she loved the childrens, it's sad, but it shows that love is the most powerful thing in the world
It was foreshadowed when she took the job when Henry asked why would a young woman want to give up her life for someone else’s kids
@@bnadalon9299 it reminds me of the story of Jesus. He loved the people in the world so much that He gave up his life.
@@ziawilliams-collier8684exactly! You nailed it!
We got so many kinds of love stories here..
The love between mother and daughter, from Viola and her kid.
The love that never happened, from Owen and Ms Grose
The obsessive abusive 'love' between Ms Jessel and Peter
The sister love, between Pergota and Viola
The forbidden love, between Henry and the mother
The love that florished, from Jamie and Danny
All kinds of love. And all of them with a tragic ending. I'd say this is a "Tragic love story".
And parental love with Flora and her father.
This is a story about memories: forgetting and remembering. We started off with Owen's mother who had dementia and Dani remembering Eddie (We see that she feels guilty remembering and guilty forgetting). We see more with the ghosts and when they started to forget, they began to fade. We find out that Flora and Miles don't remember the events that went down at Bly, but Jamie tells them the story so that they can remember Dani in a way. Jamie also tells adult Flora that when you lose a loved one, you still have memories and there will be things that remind you of them and it may hurt (in a way like Viola remembering that she's dead over and over again), but hold on to that because you remember all of the good you went through together.
Well put. Glad when people take this series not just at face value, but see the underlying themes that it tries to portrait.
PS: In my opinion, the theme about dementia/Alzheimer is also repeated with Dani in the final. She knows her inevitable fait, but thanks to Jamie she manages to enjoy the time she has left as herself. Instead of dreading the future and living in fear. Just like Jamie also recommends to adult Flora at the very end.
I am about a year late but you are right! Mike Flanagan said in an interview that they wanted to explore the idea of "dementia of the spirit"
i do remember someone saying that the reason flora and miles didn't remember much for bly manor, especially with dani is because they were being taken over by peter and rebecca so often that they lost part of that memory. Hope that makes sense and not sure if thats right idea but it made sense to me.
I'd probably understand Mike cuz Peter used him more often but they were key moments where Flora wouldn't easily forget especially when Dani saved her n when they were interacting with Peter n Becca.
One other possibility is that it was a result of regressed memory as a result of trauma. It's like their minds blocked off those bad experiences in order for them to move on.
Jamie and Dani's story is probably one of the MOST heartbreaking but also happy love stories. The way that even after all of those years, Jamie never stopped loving Dani. Jamie still waited all those years for her lover to come back.
So Jamie was an “unreliable narrator”. She didn’t want Flora to forget the sacrifice Dani made for her, so she told them a “ghost story”, changing the names of people and places so that the kid’s won’t have traumatic flashbacks. But in this way, they will remember Jamie without realizing they are really remembering her. It’s a powerful ending.
Finally!
Dani was long gone the moment she invited Viola into herself.
Its a dreading representation of a degenerative disease and knowing someone’s on their way out while still embracing the love as they fade away. One day at a time. Its more than some of us will ever get. 😢
You will realise that this show has too much rewatch value. It will give you a new found appreciation how clever it was put together on the 2nd watch.
Hill house is supernatural horror that gives you jump scares. Bly manor is a psychological horror and it gives you existential dread.
Echo of Owen with his mom maybe.
@@audraross3012 And Viola and Perdita. But their sheer will broke them. Viola wont let go, and she would hurt people around her. But Dani.. Dani wouldnt. Dani would never *sigh* 😢
@@audraross3012 And Rebecca and Peter. As Hannah said in epi 1, she was long gone before she waded into that lake. Both her and Peter wont let go.
@@audraross3012 Flora was right; Dead doesn’t mean gone. You can already be dead even if you’re still here. Ahh the writing of this show is just so brilliant.
Hill House is about grief and love just as much as Bly Manor is.
From my point of view Jamie just changed details of the story like flora's name being actually her middle name, and flora being used to say perfeclty splendid when she actually only says perfect like in one of the last scenes when she says " I'm perfect"... As has been told the kids had forgotten their past, and Jamie didn't want Dani to fade away from everyone's memory that's why she tells them that ghost/love story
Plus: This show for me represents what we really are horrified of: losing people we love, having to deal with death and traumas
Plus 2: People like Owen don't have to look exactly the same, because what we've seen the whole series is Jamie's perspective and how she remembers things
NAILED it. she said it right when story was over.! that was the first "tell"
Yeah, she even tells the other girl at the wedding that they wouldn't ever find any such house, implying that bly manor was just a name she made up for her story. After all the older Flora would have recognised the name if it really was what the home she grew up in as a child.
Coming in a year too late but there is a youtuber called Ladyknightthebrave who was able to interview the show runner Mike Flanagan and he confirmed what you said. They always wrote it as Jamie changed the names of everyone involved but everything else was true.
Recall the sick woman in the bed when Viola killed the plague doctor last episode. Viola was looking for her daughter in the bed not just anyone so as long as they didn't step in her path they were safe sleeping in the room. I personally believe the little talisman/doll that Charlotte kept by the bed to protect them worked for her as well.
I'll admit the "how did Dani know about you me us" question has come up before and I'd totally forgot she basically watched Peter go through explaining it to Miles and Flora in episode 7.
I feel like Jamie decided to tell the story of Bly at Flora's wedding cause she knew how much Dani ached from the fact the kids didn't remember her... Dani cared for them so much and protected them a lot (just like they did) she saved everyone by inviting Viola to enter her. So by telling them the story as a "ghost" story and reminding them of their au pair, she could commemorate her and remind them of her, and by that Flora was smart enough to realize this story was in fact a memory and true.
She didn’t know it was her memory, she just thought it was true in general.
I think Nikki needs a virtual hug
If you noticed their parents bed was in the right side of the room away from Viola’s path. The bed moves around with the different families :)
Since it was a summer house , parents only there a few weeks of at all. It's why Hannah was there to watch kids . Hannah when talking to Henry was going to say it's all confetti (from Hill House) .
But not once while they were there? Viola visited multiple times while Dani was there. They didn’t to do a better job explaining the frequency in my opinion. -s
@@NikkiStevenReact I think they mentioned that she only stops at the end of the bed, always unless there's a child on the bed. She didn't touch the patient on the bed during the plague.
The series is based in the school season, so anywhere from around September to around june. The parents when alive would use that house as a summer house, so theyed only be there around June July August and September ( from my understanding of "summer"). From my understanding Viola seems to only walk around in the colder months, and sleep in the warmer months, that's what I think at least.
how tears weren't filling up your house is beyond me
I lost my grandpa a week before this show, and I wasn't dealing very well with my grief, the end of this series tore me apart, I cried for hours, I was a bad day, but at the same time she made me release all this sadness I finally accepted what had happened and day after day I went back to my normal life, I keep his cap with me, and like jamie, I feel him close to me
The first time I watched this episode of Bly Manor I was crying so hard that I had an asthma attack. The ending was so sad but so well done❤
not me watching a bunch of reactions of the show and still crying or tearing up at the end while watching you guys react, ive cried over 5 times today and i watched a bunch of reactions.
I love Hill House and Bly Manor, for the running theme that we create our own ghosts and we create our own demons. And the tight writing. These actors deserved all the awards.
DARK should be watched now. My suggestion. I’m working my way through it slowly and it’s just amazing!
i second this!! i've watched dark more than once, such an amazing series, so shocking and gripping.
I loved this show. Hill House was really good, but the emotions in this one were fantastic. I read that the director/producer/showrunner Mike Flanagan (who did the movie Dr. Sleep, sequel to The Shining) has another in the works with Netflix called Midnight Mass. Hill and Bly and now Midnight Mass is sort of an anthology series. Like American Horror Story, each season will be a stand alone story, and feature many of the same people as the previous seasons (and if you haven't seen American Horror Story, it's fantastic, and it doesn't matter which season you start with).Anyway, I loved Bly, and really enjoyed your reactions to it. I don't know if I pointed this out before, but did anyone recognize Uncle Henry? He's none other than Henry Thomas, who played Elliott in E.T.
True about American Horror Story but I think it's best watched in chronological order rather than production order.
It's funny to think back on the details of Jamie's story to realize how much was made up so that "Flora" and "Miles" weren't suspicious or confused. The manor was certainly not called "Bly", as she said no one could find it by that name.
Someone hold my cup of stars while I cry my eyes out 😩😩😩
Thank you so much for getting this out early for us! I’ve seen several reaction vids but you guys are by far the most enjoyable and fun to watch! Was cool to ‘rewatch’ the series w/you both.
No problem... I know y’all have been waiting. Really appreciate the comment, thank you.
I about drowned in my own tears at the end of this show lol
The parallels of Dani fading bc of Viola, Hannah losing herself bc she didn’t know she died and Owens mom having dementia... all heartbreakingly similar 😢
When you think about that "O Willow Waly" song that Jaime uses in the narration at the beginning of the season and Flora also sings, it basically tells the story of what The Haunting of Bly Manor is all about
Nikki cries, I cry. Every. Single. Time. 😭
This episode killed me because I remember noticing that they gave the actress playing Jamie silver in her hair as her and Dani lived together, and thinking it was a good detail to show the passing of time. So the moment we return to the wedding with silver-haired Carla Gugino my neck broke in an instant because everything clicked. She is the Gardener and she knows the story because Dani told her and the wedding is Flora's but Owen said the kids didn't remember which is that weird exchange right at the start of the first episode was when old Owen looked at her.
I think season 1 has a consistently better story through every episode, but season 2 is most powerful during the ending.
Very different from Hill House, but equally exceptional on its own terms and style. Both series are profoundly moving meditations on grief, loss and love. Brilliant. Can't wait for season 3 -- provided Netflix green lights it.
Agreed. Despite some of our questions it was an excellent story.
I am sure you already know but it is called Midnight Mass and it just came out!!!
So heartbreaking. It felt like an allegory of depression, particularly 5:07 Dani's description of how she was feeling.
@Nikki & Steven React I think the reason that Flora and Miles couldn't remember what happened at Bly Manor is because they were tucked away by Rebecca & Peter for the majority of the season.
I just binged both your Hill House and Bly Manor series and I just wanted to say I really loved all your reactions, comments and thoughts! You're both so perceptive and also kind while watching these shows which is a rare combination, and you really put a lot of effort into your commentary. This was really a pleasure to watch, thank you so much for all your work on this and I look forward to seeing more from you guys, you're awesome :)
It’s hard to compare the two seasons although I do have a personal favourite but they both have the same thread that runs through them that connects them.
As well as guilt, trauma and other things as a vicious cycle, dementia seemed like it was very reiterated throughout this season. Like Owens mother -his monologue about how heavy it was to carry and how in the end it was a relief for the both of them, how the ghosts in the house lose their memories and their identities/faces follow, when the ghosts were finally liberated from the grounds of Bly and how Dani is ultimately waiting to be taken.
But Hannah’s last words were going to be confetti. As Flora says ‘Dead doesn’t mean gone’ and ‘I am not gone. I'm scattered into so many pieces, sprinkled on your life like new snow.’ -as Nell says in Hill House.
It’s a beautiful reminder that so long as we remember people, they’re not gone. Jamie telling the story is keeping Dani alive. We keep the people we love alive through their memory.
As for how Dani knew about “you, me, us” she watched and listened to that play out with Bec, Peter, and the kids in the attic just before she flees the manor!
She knew what to say from Peter & Miss Jessell (sp?) in the attic when they were trying to get the kids to invite them in.
Her speech at the end about living in a world without the person you love hit home for me. My best friend died in August, and we were really close. Sometimes I feel like we were more than friends, he wanted us to be more. But I was insecure and stupid and nothing was ever official. He was in the hospital for about 3 weeks before he passed and all I kept thinking was he can't leave me here, I can't imagine my life without him. I used to NEVER cry about anything, and now I really do find myself crying for no reason. This and Hill House were so accurate in dealing with grief.
I sobbed for an uncomfortable amount of time after I watched this episode. 🥺
This show (both seasons) does an amazing job at creating a beautiful and tragic story about family & love and life & death (especially the thin, obliterating line between them). It makes you see ghosts in a completely different way: rather than scary spirits, they are just lost souls with tragic stories.
Thanks for sharing your reactions! It was a pleasure for me to rewatch the show this way, and see your emotions match mine.
Hope you both have happy holidays :)
one of the best love stories i've ever seen on a show
I just love how you guys always check with each other if either of you have any more thoughts before you finish the video. I hope to one day have a relationship like the two of you have ❤️
Also great reaction! I love your content and the time you spend discussing the shows you watch, I can tell you both really care about the content you’re putting out
I love this show more every time i rewatch it on here. So tragic but so good.
I think Jamie touches on it in the end- people couldve lived in the house and been fine, sleeping in that bed, 1) because there isnt a set “day” with her sleep-wake-walk cycle. She could wake up every 60 years for all we know. It wasnt a daily occurrence necessarily. 2) when it was the plague house, someone was in the bed, and when she didnt see her husband and child, she would return to her lake. Didnt necessarily have to “take” whoever was in the bed, especially if she didnt recognize them as anyone of significance.
Dani knew to say it because she was there when Peter took over Miles, and they said that. She probably didn't know what would happen, it was more of a hail Mary attempt to do something in that moment
The overarching theme for this season can be traced back to Dani and Jamie's convo in ep3. The wrong kind of love like Peter and Rebecca's relationship vs Dani and Jamie being capable of selfless love both for each other and other people. It's beautiful and heartbreaking and Dani is the sweetest and saddest of heroes.
Nikki: “has she always had one blue eye and one brown eye?”
Nope! Fun fact... that only happened after Viola got into her. It also happened when Peter possessed Myles (giving him one blue eye).
yes , and you can see the eye changing color in that moment
When I first saw this I had a hunch that whole cast during the story were the ones throughout the show because of Owen and Jaime
I found your channel through your 'Hill House' reactions and have been subscribed ever since. So, was really looking forward to your 'Bly Manor' reactions 👌🏻 I love both series and love your reactions to them! Thanks for another great series of reactions (and was loving all your predictions) 👌🏻☺️🧡
found this show because of your channel and OMFG .. thx u guys!! MUCH LUV!
It seems not a lot of people get it, but of course the season 2 is not much different than season 1, meaning that it has a "hidden" (not really) theme, especially in the last episode. So who is the Lady of The Lake and why is she just killing random people in her path ? Think about any disease, chronic condition, let's say, for example, cancer, or maybe AIDS. You get it, sometimes you die immediately, sometimes you live an entire life with it, sometimes a few years only. That's who the Lady is, sleeping, waking, walking, grabbing anyone on her path. Sicknesses. Life, death. One of the most obvious moments is when Danny proposes to Jamie (1:23), it is actually what some ill people would say in real life. It is also a beautiful tribute to all the people, wife, husband, children or friends that support gravely sick persons with great care and love. It also shows the point of view of the ill one on that very subject, feeling that the persons they love the most are being hurt because of them, they suffer and put their life in the background for them. This is what Bly Manor is really about, life, childhood, love, sickness, death. And a beautiful narration around with ghost stories.
Thanks for a whole “season” of great reactions! And I agree, it’s a good idea to rewatch the opening scenes of the first episode again with the knowledge of all that had happened, and see how it all connects!
U know I binged watched this when it came out, but rewatching it with you guys was perfect, thank you for all of your reactions, seeing it for a second time u can see a lot of things I missed the first time I watched it. And that ending had me crying so bad even tho I knew what was coming I still cried.
Jamie and Dani’s relationship is adorable! I love that no matter what they were in they were in everything together. Even when Dani is slowly slipping, Jamie is always there for her. Overall the bond that the make is beautiful. (Also Owen’s restaurant 😂🥺)
Hill House and Bly Manor are so different but also similar. Both talks about loss, grief, trauma, and uses ghosts as metaphors but watching hill house makes me wanna hide behind my pillows while watching bly manor makes me wanna hide behind my tissue box.
The kids were indeed amazing. It's their first major role and they're already that good. Mike Flanagan really has the best writers/production team and casts out there. I can't wait for the next season.
Also, Victoria Pedretti's characters are always so soft and kind (also dead) in this show. I would love to see her playing the bad guy next season like what they did to Oliver Jackson-Cohen.
I think in an earlier episode, Hannah says she has to clean muddy footsteps once every few weeks. Considering that Bly Manor was the family summer home, but also that Viola only took those directly in her path (in the last episode she doesn't take an adult who's in the bed, only the children), I think it's possible the parents just got lucky? Plus we know the other ghosts warn Flora about Viola, and that Flora is friends with the child ghost, but Henry was friends with the soldier ghost when he was little. I think it's possible that the ghosts gave occupants little nudges, maybe via the children who would talk to them, to keep them safe.
Thank you for not waiting til Tuesday to post this! Loved your reaction to this season. Subscribed and can't wait to watch more series. If I can suggest anything, maybe American Horror Story?
You guys had some of the questions I had by the end and after several rewatches here are theories/things i picked up on:
- viola doesn't wake up every night, sometimes she waits every few years. and the Wingraves only visited in the summer, so it's very likely they never encountered her. and it's obvious the kids only first saw her in the house when she kills peter.
- jamie left out details in the story because she wanted to tell it to Flora and Miles without making them experience it themselves again. that way they can get the wisdom with it without the trauma. it's an intentional inverted image of hill house and how the crains took that trauma with them to adulthood. that being said, we probably don't know anyone's real names since jamie changed them! she even changed the name of the manor. (when that lady asked, she said they'd never find a manor called bly in england).
- the lady in the lake's walk represents the cycle of abuse. she strangles everyone who gets in her way because she was strangled herself. kind of like how victims of abuse tend to create more victims by doing the same exact thing that was done to them. peter himself was a victim of abuse and an abuser so him being killed by viola's cycle was poetic justice. and even in death, peter continued HIS cycle of dragging people down with him. dani stopping that cycle was a metaphor, cycles of abuse can be stopped by love. and that's what dani represents in this story.
it's crazy how deep you can get with this show lol. i'm still picking out nuances. it's a beautiful series.
Jamie did a good job of changing things in the original story as she told it so neither us or her audience knew it was about them. She changed names of places, used middle or nicknames etc
The reason why the parents were never taken by Viola was because it was their summer house so they were hardly ever there, especially the dad who was away on trips most of the time. This would make it less likely they would run into Viola.
Also Viola only walks during the night which is when the parents would be more than likely sleeping in the bed. If you rewatch the 8th episode you see that Viola doesn't take anyone if they're on the bed itself, unless its a child, so they would've been safe as they weren't actually in her path...
Anyway, hope that clears some bits up for you. I've really enjoyed your reactions to this show, a show that has had such a huge impact on me personally, a masterpiece in writing, the story was absolutely phenomenal. Thank you for the great reactions!
I was really hoping y’all would catch the confetti reference Hannah was about to tell Henry right before her ghost was set free
It was a fantastic love story... Nikki I send you a big hug from Paris ! For the next show, what about the handmaid's tale ?
i cried for like 30 minutes straight watching the end … life altering for real .
If you love Mike Flanagan's stuff, I totally recommend, 2016 'Ouiji: Origin of Evil' (prequel to Ouiji) and 2019 'Doctor Sleep' (sequel to The Shining). I love his stuff and how he has some of the same actors in his movies/shows. I would love to see your reactions!
this ending broke me for days🤧
Man when Nikki cries i just want to give her a hug
Jamie is my favorite too. Anybody who can make me laugh when I'm feeling blue, will always get some love from me. Which is why I come back again, and again to you guys. My spirits are lifted when I watch a video of yours, or the rare chances I get to be a part of your livestreams on Twitch.
But, yes, Hannah was so protective of the family that you can't help but love her.
Steven: "It was almost like they were meant to be...just...enough...not forever." Not a lifetimes worth. 😢
I think maybe conversation Jamie had with Dani over the years, might explain why Jamie knew to say those words "You, Me, Us." But, I know you probably figured that out later.
I promised to give you my stupid, crazy theory after watching the first few episodes:
I thought that someone in the house (I locked on Hannah) was dealing with schizophrenia, and had multiple personalities, and that everyone in Bly Manor was her personalities in conflict with each other. I thought that Owen was her therapist, and that their conversations at the dining table was her therapy sessions. LOL! Crazy right?!!!
Great reaction to a great season. Thank you! 😊🌺🏝️❤️
What could really have happened?
An alternative, realistic variant.
Please keep in mind that the whole story of Bly Manor is told by an unreliable narrator. Someone who has experienced the least of it herself and knows what she knows only from Dani, who was extremely unstable herself.
The nanny suffered terrible delusions and psychosis after the traumatic death of her fiancé. She took refuge in a ghost story to explain her trauma. She got better for a few years, and Jamie and Dani lived happily together until Dani fell into severe depression and eventually took her own life. Presumably she committed suicide in a bathtub, which is explained by her connection to water in Jamie's story.
Just like Dani, Jamie then spins a ghost story together to cope with and explain the death of her great love.
Dani may have done almost exactly the same thing as with Owen's mother. She disappeared more and more every day. Dani finally left a farewell letter and took her own life in her bathtub. To keep it sound like a geiser story because it's supposed to be a classic geiser story, Jamie came up with the rest to make the whole story sound appropriate to others and maybe to himself. Because the truth would be much worse. Because that happens every day in real life when people become mentally ill or Alzheimer's.
So it is not a ghost story, but a story about the slow decay of the mind. Mentally illness.
I can not wait to see what this troupe of actors and creators will do for season 3!!!!
They’re really good
Not sure if anyone else picked this up, but the child ghost was the one who was moving the dolls, like he was letting Flora know where the ghosts were. That was why she didn't want anyone touching them. If you look closely, there are a few moments when you see the little boy near the doll house throughout the show. I think he was trying to protect Flora because she was his friend...they were, after all, "talismans" which were, as her mom described, for "protection."
Yeah, we picked up on that. Maybe late but it clicked when we see him “playing” with the house.
@@NikkiStevenReact I couldn't remember if you said it or not. Anyway, thanks for the content! I love watching your reactions to haunting and Mandalorian.
Tell owen I love him and the rest is just....
Confetti ❤
As always I love you guys’ reactions, insights and everything. This one just really broke me. Bly manor really broke something in me.
Much love. And to more reactions and streams!
Viola was only looking for a child. She only kills people who are in her path. In episode 8 there was a person on the bed she didn’t kill him, but kills the doctor who was actually in her way. I guess the parent never cross her path. Jamie changed the names of people and places when she was telling the story, she knows the kids forgot everything, but she wants Dani to be remembered. She said if you travel to England you won’t find Bly Manor, it does exist but it has a different name.
I just figured that the parents were asleep in bed when Viola showed up. So she didn’t mess with them. She only seemed to interact with people who were awake and in her direct path or addressing her. Perhaps just the fact they were asleep allowed her to overlook them.
I highly recommend watching the ending and then watch the opening of the first episode again. You catch things that you didnt know about during your first viewing.
I know this is a late reaction but just so you know this story was based off a book called the turn of the screw written by Henry James.
They brodened the story here and made it more complexed and I loved it and the fact that both kids get to survive and live their lives.
Basically the original story is about a woman who comes to watch over 2 kids and strange things seem to happen around her until she comes to figure out the Peter was possesing Miles and so after his sister was taken away from the house the governess tries to fight off Peter and free Miles from his control but in the end even though Peter is gone miles lays unmoving and dead in her arms. Now the term a Turn of the screw basically means braking a person down until they eventually do what you want hence Miles being controlled by Peter.
Hope that explains things a bit and I do love watching your reactions to the episodes because at times you both had the same reactions as I did and at times not haha. This one didn't scare me so much but I am glad it still kept some horror elements to it as well.
To answer 2 of your questions: 1st about why the parents were never killed by Viola. In the one scene of the last episode when Viola went into the Manor during the plague outbreak and there were people in her bed, but she didn't care about them because they were not her child. Now it is strange that they never encountered her at all but if we assume that the parents were asleep every time she came up then they would've been fine. 2nd question, why did Dani know to say "It's you, it's me, it's us" to Viola. Well two episodes ago she saw both Miles and Flora say it to join spirits with Peter and Rebecca (except obviously flora didn't actually do it). Like the narration said, she didn't really know if it would do anything it was just a last ditch effort to keep Flora safe.
Hanna and Owen were my favourite characters, I'm so sad they weren't able to be together at the end🥺🥺🥺😭😭😭💕💕💕
I think the parents didn't encounter Viola in the bedroom because their bed was on the far wall out of "her path".
In Hill House, Victoria's character commits suicide by a loved one.
In Bly Manor, her character commits suicide for a love one.
My personal fan theory is that Danni is the great (X times) granddaughter of the lady in the lake and that the you me us thing was passed on in the family still.
Damn it's so hot in here my eyeballs are sweating. 😭😭
This show was perfectly splendid!
So I think the family had no issue with the lady because her path ends at the bed. I don’t remember if the parent did sleep in that bed or not, if they did they weren’t bothered because unless there’s a child there she just kind of stands there and then goes back. She only kills those in her way. I think she does this because somewhere in her memory she remembers doing this to people when she still had her face.
As for Flora being the brides middle name, I think Jamie mentions that she changed some of the details. I think she did this because she, Owen, and Henry all agreed to not tell the kids what happened since the kids forgot. So as not to tell them directly and possibly bring up any buried memories she changed the details, even the name of the manor. Remember she told a woman there that she wouldn’t find any place named Bly.