I have one of these. 2 advantages I got out of it: 1. I got the Moog sound I wanted for $700. 2. My wife is happy I didn't spend $5000 on the sound I wanted.
Thanks for those many new ideas I got from your demo. I‘ve had my Poly D for just three weeks and largely reproduced classic Minimoog sounds and polyphonic pads. But this simple little beast is in fact good for more!
It's really superior to the original, and the original is the most widely used synthesizer of all time. this is only a low cost access to the moog sound, but for the humble musician it is the perfect instrument to make funk, hiphop, reggae, techno, house, drum and bass, trap, reggaeton... there is no limit in the musical codes, yes he wants a bass he will do it, if he wants a flute too, a bass drum, a snare drum, a hihat, string, pads, arpeggios, electronic harps, guitars. Everything you imagined with the original Minimoog you can do with Poly D and it's so much more than a clone, it matches the Matriarch in real VCO oscillators, great bass rumble and tonal punch. I bought it for this and because it is minimoog it is my favorite instrument of all time, but having this one with more sound design power I will no longer spend 5000.
Okay, this isn't the best demo of this beast but for $700 you can add the Minimoog sound into your mix and nobody, I repeat -- NOBODY will be able to tell the difference! I've had a side-by-side blind test and I couldn't tell them apart (BTW, I didn't buy either but instead bought the Moog Grand Mother). The differences are slight to nonexistent unless you can see which synth is making the sound. Even the best comparisons on TH-cam concede that the sound differences are minimal to nonexistent. In a blind test nearly every MOOG fanboy will fail telling them apart -- it's only their bias knowing which is which that rules their perception of which is better. No amount of snobbery by MOOG fanboys will change that fact. However, the build quality of the Moog is superior but I'm NOT willing to throw away $4 grand just for the bragging rights even if some people claim it's really an investment!
@@paantimo You don't think Behringer pays for R&D? You think Moog was just like "hey Behringer this is how you build a minimoog lol enjoy!" They have to recreate everything. Don't get me wrong I have a lot of respect for Moog, making things in USA and being employee owned. But the majority of people can't afford that.
@@GuyGamer1 15 Years ago there were NO affordable analog options from any of the major manufacturers. People have choice now and some gatekeepers are mad about it.
I'd buy a Minimoog tomorrow if Moog wanted to sell me one. I already have a Matriarch/Grandmother/Mother-32/DFAM/Subharmonicon, so it's not like I won't support them. But right now only one company wants to sell me a decent Minimoog reissue. So Behringer it is, then.
I was hoping to hear more of the snappiness of the envelopes... Perhaps in a subsequent video, we can see those pretty hands playing these keys some more?
Bit of a synth noob here. At 3:10 the sequencer is playing two different rhythms. How is this happening? Have two separate sequences been punched in for different notes? Or two notes played at the same time for a few of the steps?
Solid choice if you’re looking for a Minimoog clone. My issue with this is that it doesn’t have the same number of keys. So you can’t play this exactly like a true Model D. If you were a touring musician who was considering this as a tour substitute for your beloved Model D, it’s possibly not a viable option due to the number of keys. That being said 37 keys is plenty, and in its own right it’s very playable. Still wish this had an easy octave up/down switch in the cheek block. Maybe that’s a digital thing.
So what is the difference between this poly d and the mono/poly that they are releasing. Does anyone know? Please help. I do not want to buy this and the other if they are practically the same type of synth.
This is based on a Minimoog, with some upgrades the minimoog never had (polyphony & unison, extra oscillator) The mono/poly is based on the Korg MonoPoly. They sound different, but yes they are the "same" type of synth, four voice subtractive synths. If I were to get one I'd get the Poly D because I prefer it's sound.
This does have similar routing to the MonoPoly, four oscillators that can be used in unison, paraphonic or cycling arpeggiator mode. The oscillators and filter on this synth have a different sound than the MonoPoly though, also the effects are different and the MonoPoly has some different modulation options.
@@PerfectCircuit thank you. Somewhere within these synths I'm sure they can sound the same If someone knows sound design. I'm curious to which one can sound like the other and which one can not. But thank you for answering my question. Having two moog synths will keep me from needing another synth that sounds like moog. Maybe I'll lean towards the monopoly. (Or get neither lol). Damn GAS.
@@mpmi7588 The Moog ladder filter and also this clone can produce sounds the others just don't get right. It's immediately audible when you set the resonance to 3/4 or 2/3 and then open or close the cutoff. There is something pretty organic about it, I often notice my self opening or closing my mouth in parallel, maybe it's just a tick. But other synths don't have that. Like I have the B-Odyssey with the 3 filters built in. The second is supposed to be the "clone of the moog clone". But it sounds so different! I cannot reproduce these sounds on the odyssey and vice versa they are both analog, they both have sawtooth and a filter but the result is miles apart. I always wanted the Poly-D but it was out of delivery so I chose Odyssey and Model-D together instead. I also wonder wether to upgrade the model-D to the Poly-D as originally planned or beholding the model-D and going for the MonoPoly. Maybe it depends on the price tag. What I would definetely of the model d is the 440 hz tuning oscillator. I also tune the Odyssey with it, so if the Model-was gone I wouldn't know how to tune both.
En este video el poly suena tan parecido a mi Bodyssey que me siento satisfecho de haber comprado el Odyssey, quizá no sea poly, pero Dios, tiene muchísimas más posibilidades.
Poly D sounds very good but all demos that I've watched sounds so similar...all the sound patches that people make sound the same.... I know that I would struggle making diverse usable.... so I'll pass even though it sounds good
Lovely Demo! 2 Questions 1.Was that Bass at the end of the video run from the Headphone port to the Rear ExtAudio In port? 2. What Parameters can be used with ExtAudioIn Thanks!
Yes, at the end we ran the headphone output into the external input. This makes a feedback loop from the mixer>filter>vca>headphone out>back to mixer etc. Making that feedback loop adds some distortion to the filter and can counteract the bass drop that ladder filters have with resonance. The main parameters that will control the feedback loop are the headphone out level and external input level, but since the feedback loop includes the filter and VCA any adjustments to those will also change how the feedback loop is affected.
It doesn't have a release knob, but there is a Decay switch that changes how the envelopes work, when the switch is off there is no release, only attack/decay/sustain, when the switch is on there is a release and the decay knob sets the time for the decay and release.
Our local store has a Poly D in stock. Interestingly, it is just in a brown box. Other Behringer synthesizers have product info printed on their packaging. I love the Minimoog sound that the Behringer Model D showed me. However, my Korg Miniologue XD seems to be a better investment. Who knows? This synthesizer could be number twelve in my collection.
После такой презентации синтезатора понятно, что это самый паршивый из линейки самых дешёвых и самых ненужных игрушек. Но это неправда. На самом деле, Behringer Poly D синтезатор-мечта с безграничными возможностями для учеников таких гениев, как Jan Hammer, Patrick Moraz, George Duke, Benoit Wiedemann, David Sancious, Lale Larsson. Не каждый прохожий годится для того, чтобы запихнуть его в ракету и запустить в космос так, чтобы он вернулся целым и невредимым, да ещё и гением с мировой известностью, например, бессмертный Chick Corea. Привет из России/Советского Союза😅
It sounds painfully boring. It lacks any of the depth the real moog does. This almost sounds like subpar digital vst quality. I think its the filters? They are boring, and the oscillators don't feel as pristine but perhaps thats just the mix of this video.
If you want the warm moog sound cheap, than this synth sounds identical to the mini moog in every department, including the filter, but the only differance is you can play 4 note chords th-cam.com/video/f3dEAptsg_A/w-d-xo.html
@@subconscious.com_usa6691 im not even really claiming it's not close enough to the original i just really felt nothing from this - and I'd have to imagine there is an appeal to the orginal that has people pining for such an expensive synth, that I simply don't hear here.
It’s not a Moog. It’s oscillators don’t behave like a real moog, the glide kinda sucks, the distortion circuit is sometimes crap.. but what it is, is kinda special. It’s four moog like circuits stacked on top of each other. It’s capable of some really cool sound design & has a great chorus. It’s definitely a cheaper synth though, mine messed up after a couple of months. I sent it back, but I miss it.
I really wanted to like it but it just doesn't sound that good. It sounds like a synth in an iOS app. I know videos may not do it justice but some instruments, you just know. So I think the price will dictate its appeal but for me, the sounds don't.
Hasan Odom If you want the warm moog sound cheap, than this synth sounds identical to the mini moog in every department, including the filter, but the only differance is you can play 4 note chords Anologue synths are warm and fat with agressive filters, warmth is a word to describe the character of the bass frequencies and low mids from 30hz to 500hz, on Anologue synth these frequencies sound fat and full which gives the synths a dark sound, a digital synth or a v.s.t sounds cold they have a opposite sound to a anologue, the bass and low mids sound thin and the top is bright, that slightly brighter top end fools people into thinking digitals have a better sound but they dont, to have both and use each to their strenghs is best, this Behringer poly d sound fantastic th-cam.com/video/f3dEAptsg_A/w-d-xo.html
In a side-by-side comparison to a minimoog, the Poly D sounds near exact. Naturally, there will be slight variations but in a blind sound test 99% would not be able to tell the difference. It's that close. You can watch the video online on Starsky Carr's channel. Objectively, it doesn't sound bad.
looks even more plastic and cheap than expected. to me, every synth that I buy needs to able to become an absolute favourite piece of mine: starting from the company and philosophy behind it, to its character, built and sound...than I do not regret a buy. cheap cheap and more and more doesn't do the job for me - sorry
That's your opinion but it's also obviously a Moog fanboy description that doesn't match up to reality by any means, since I doubt you've even seen one let alone heard one in person. I own several Moog synths and my experience with the Poly D is anything but dismissive and in fact I'm in awe of it. It sounds just as amazing as my Grand Mother, Minitaur and DFAM. In fact it fits in the kit perfectly along side my many other analog synths! Sadly, it was a loaner and I had to return it, but when I'm finished paying off my Korg Wavestate I plan to own the BOOG Poly D!
I have one of these. 2 advantages I got out of it:
1. I got the Moog sound I wanted for $700.
2. My wife is happy I didn't spend $5000 on the sound I wanted.
Funny!!, but true
Sometimes, it’s not about “right” and “wrong”, it’s about not wanting to “hear about it”!
lol wife bad 😠
3. Because your wife is happy, you're still alive.
you are a good man for making your wife happier.
Sorry haters. Behringer did it again.
Behringer Pauly D
😭😭😭😭😭
Thanks for those many new ideas I got from your demo. I‘ve had my Poly D for just three weeks and largely reproduced classic Minimoog sounds and polyphonic pads. But this simple little beast is in fact good for more!
It's really superior to the original, and the original is the most widely used synthesizer of all time.
this is only a low cost access to the moog sound, but for the humble musician it is the perfect instrument to make funk, hiphop, reggae, techno, house, drum and bass, trap, reggaeton... there is no limit in the musical codes, yes he wants a bass he will do it, if he wants a flute too, a bass drum, a snare drum, a hihat, string, pads, arpeggios, electronic harps, guitars.
Everything you imagined with the original Minimoog you can do with Poly D and it's so much more than a clone, it matches the Matriarch in real VCO oscillators, great bass rumble and tonal punch.
I bought it for this and because it is minimoog it is my favorite instrument of all time, but having this one with more sound design power I will no longer spend 5000.
2:36 Wow 🎉
Brilliant demo thanks
I see a perfect circuit demo, I click like. simple.
It really has that 70s vibe with the bright pastels
Okay, this isn't the best demo of this beast but for $700 you can add the Minimoog sound into your mix and nobody, I repeat -- NOBODY will be able to tell the difference! I've had a side-by-side blind test and I couldn't tell them apart (BTW, I didn't buy either but instead bought the Moog Grand Mother). The differences are slight to nonexistent unless you can see which synth is making the sound. Even the best comparisons on TH-cam concede that the sound differences are minimal to nonexistent. In a blind test nearly every MOOG fanboy will fail telling them apart -- it's only their bias knowing which is which that rules their perception of which is better. No amount of snobbery by MOOG fanboys will change that fact. However, the build quality of the Moog is superior but I'm NOT willing to throw away $4 grand just for the bragging rights even if some people claim it's really an investment!
Everything you just said it TRUE
Moog is an employee-owned company that makes new kinds of synths and they pay for their own R&D. If that's snobbery to you I'm okay with it.
@@paantimo You don't think Behringer pays for R&D?
You think Moog was just like "hey Behringer this is how you build a minimoog lol enjoy!"
They have to recreate everything.
Don't get me wrong I have a lot of respect for Moog, making things in USA and being employee owned. But the majority of people can't afford that.
@@GuyGamer1 15 Years ago there were NO affordable analog options from any of the major manufacturers. People have choice now and some gatekeepers are mad about it.
I'd buy a Minimoog tomorrow if Moog wanted to sell me one. I already have a Matriarch/Grandmother/Mother-32/DFAM/Subharmonicon, so it's not like I won't support them. But right now only one company wants to sell me a decent Minimoog reissue. So Behringer it is, then.
Fantastic Synth 😍👍
This is to me !!! I call it , Tiny Monster, and beautiful too.
Nice clean cable managament :)
Paraphonic is fun but man once you've gone the fully manual (Vermona Perfourmer) it's hard to justify anything else.
The demo Poly D I bought from Perfect Circuit arrived yesterday! Wonder if it's the one used in this video ??? Beautiful synth regardless!
I was hoping to hear more of the snappiness of the envelopes... Perhaps in a subsequent video, we can see those pretty hands playing these keys some more?
Bit of a synth noob here. At 3:10 the sequencer is playing two different rhythms. How is this happening? Have two separate sequences been punched in for different notes? Or two notes played at the same time for a few of the steps?
1:50 sounds like kendrick lamar "Humble"
Here you go my friend 400 likes =)
Hipnotik groove!
2:15
So I guess you could say this is a Size DDDD.
quad Ds
You are an evil and despicable person.
Solid choice if you’re looking for a Minimoog clone. My issue with this is that it doesn’t have the same number of keys. So you can’t play this exactly like a true Model D. If you were a touring musician who was considering this as a tour substitute for your beloved Model D, it’s possibly not a viable option due to the number of keys. That being said 37 keys is plenty, and in its own right it’s very playable. Still wish this had an easy octave up/down switch in the cheek block. Maybe that’s a digital thing.
It does have an octave switch. It goes from low to mid to high.
It is located just north of the pitch wheel.
Nice
So what is the difference between this poly d and the mono/poly that they are releasing. Does anyone know? Please help. I do not want to buy this and the other if they are practically the same type of synth.
This is based on a Minimoog, with some upgrades the minimoog never had (polyphony & unison, extra oscillator)
The mono/poly is based on the Korg MonoPoly.
They sound different, but yes they are the "same" type of synth, four voice subtractive synths.
If I were to get one I'd get the Poly D because I prefer it's sound.
This does have similar routing to the MonoPoly, four oscillators that can be used in unison, paraphonic or cycling arpeggiator mode. The oscillators and filter on this synth have a different sound than the MonoPoly though, also the effects are different and the MonoPoly has some different modulation options.
@@GuyGamer1 thank you. That helped a lot
@@PerfectCircuit thank you. Somewhere within these synths I'm sure they can sound the same If someone knows sound design. I'm curious to which one can sound like the other and which one can not. But thank you for answering my question. Having two moog synths will keep me from needing another synth that sounds like moog. Maybe I'll lean towards the monopoly. (Or get neither lol). Damn GAS.
@@mpmi7588 The Moog ladder filter and also this clone can produce sounds the others just don't get right. It's immediately audible when you set the resonance to 3/4 or 2/3 and then open or close the cutoff. There is something pretty organic about it, I often notice my self opening or closing my mouth in parallel, maybe it's just a tick. But other synths don't have that. Like I have the B-Odyssey with the 3 filters built in. The second is supposed to be the "clone of the moog clone". But it sounds so different! I cannot reproduce these sounds on the odyssey and vice versa they are both analog, they both have sawtooth and a filter but the result is miles apart. I always wanted the Poly-D but it was out of delivery so I chose Odyssey and Model-D together instead. I also wonder wether to upgrade the model-D to the Poly-D as originally planned or beholding the model-D and going for the MonoPoly. Maybe it depends on the price tag. What I would definetely of the model d is the 440 hz tuning oscillator. I also tune the Odyssey with it, so if the Model-was gone I wouldn't know how to tune both.
I liked the demo, pleasant change from the same chord progressions of the 80s
Does this do multi layer sequencing?
En este video el poly suena tan parecido a mi Bodyssey que me siento satisfecho de haber comprado el Odyssey, quizá no sea poly, pero Dios, tiene muchísimas más posibilidades.
Poly D sounds very good but all demos that I've watched sounds so similar...all the sound patches that people make sound the same.... I know that I would struggle making diverse usable.... so I'll pass even though it sounds good
Lovely Demo!
2 Questions
1.Was that Bass at the end of the video run from the Headphone port to the Rear ExtAudio In port?
2. What Parameters can be used with ExtAudioIn
Thanks!
Yes, at the end we ran the headphone output into the external input. This makes a feedback loop from the mixer>filter>vca>headphone out>back to mixer etc. Making that feedback loop adds some distortion to the filter and can counteract the bass drop that ladder filters have with resonance. The main parameters that will control the feedback loop are the headphone out level and external input level, but since the feedback loop includes the filter and VCA any adjustments to those will also change how the feedback loop is affected.
@@PerfectCircuit So sweet!
Can wait to get my hands on one!
Thanks for the swift reply!
Play On!
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Is there a release knob? Is it somewhere else?
It doesn't have a release knob, but there is a Decay switch that changes how the envelopes work, when the switch is off there is no release, only attack/decay/sustain, when the switch is on there is a release and the decay knob sets the time for the decay and release.
Idk why, but this synth hasn't impressed me yet... MS101 however I'm itching to buy still
Our local store has a Poly D in stock. Interestingly, it is just in a brown box. Other Behringer synthesizers have product info printed on their packaging. I love the Minimoog sound that the Behringer Model D showed me. However, my Korg Miniologue XD seems to be a better investment. Who knows? This synthesizer could be number twelve in my collection.
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Most differences pointed out are the result of placebo. You go into this
vide eyes-closed expecting major differences and your mind will create them
Gad Damn!
Sick
I bought one then a monopoly ,pro1 and td3 .lol
После такой презентации синтезатора понятно, что это самый паршивый из линейки самых дешёвых и самых ненужных игрушек. Но это неправда. На самом деле, Behringer Poly D синтезатор-мечта с безграничными возможностями для учеников таких гениев, как Jan Hammer, Patrick Moraz, George Duke, Benoit Wiedemann, David Sancious, Lale Larsson. Не каждый прохожий годится для того, чтобы запихнуть его в ракету и запустить в космос так, чтобы он вернулся целым и невредимым, да ещё и гением с мировой известностью, например, бессмертный Chick Corea. Привет из России/Советского Союза😅
el no lleva rebel?
not convinced
Public: We demand a cheap synth!
Behringer: Here it is...
Public: But....it sounds bad....
Behringer: 🥱
That's not really the common public opinion though. The sound quality and accuracy are very impressive when comparing the two together.
Yeah....I haven't heard a single person say that
It sounds painfully boring. It lacks any of the depth the real moog does. This almost sounds like subpar digital vst quality. I think its the filters? They are boring, and the oscillators don't feel as pristine but perhaps thats just the mix of this video.
If you want the warm moog sound cheap, than this synth sounds identical to the mini moog in every department, including the filter, but the only differance is you can play 4 note chords
th-cam.com/video/f3dEAptsg_A/w-d-xo.html
@@subconscious.com_usa6691 And, don't forget that it costs $4000 less for a sound that virtually is the same in almost every respect!
@@subconscious.com_usa6691 im not even really claiming it's not close enough to the original i just really felt nothing from this - and I'd have to imagine there is an appeal to the orginal that has people pining for such an expensive synth, that I simply don't hear here.
It’s not a Moog. It’s oscillators don’t behave like a real moog, the glide kinda sucks, the distortion circuit is sometimes crap.. but what it is, is kinda special. It’s four moog like circuits stacked on top of each other. It’s capable of some really cool sound design & has a great chorus. It’s definitely a cheaper synth though, mine messed up after a couple of months. I sent it back, but I miss it.
I think it sounds beautiful.....and copies ever bit and more of the Minimoog I had
I really wanted to like it but it just doesn't sound that good. It sounds like a synth in an iOS app. I know videos may not do it justice but some instruments, you just know. So I think the price will dictate its appeal but for me, the sounds don't.
IOS app, really? listen whit a good pair of phones please.
@@eduardrojas1862 I listened with meze empyreans and agree with the guy
Hasan Odom
If you want the warm moog sound cheap, than this synth sounds identical to the mini moog in every department, including the filter, but the only differance is you can play 4 note chords
Anologue synths are warm and fat with agressive filters, warmth is a word to describe the character of the bass frequencies and low mids from 30hz to 500hz, on Anologue synth these frequencies sound fat and full which gives the synths a dark sound, a digital synth or a v.s.t sounds cold they have a opposite sound to a anologue, the bass and low mids sound thin and the top is bright, that slightly brighter top end fools people into thinking digitals have a better sound but they dont, to have both and use each to their strenghs is best, this Behringer poly d sound fantastic th-cam.com/video/f3dEAptsg_A/w-d-xo.html
In a side-by-side comparison to a minimoog, the Poly D sounds near exact. Naturally, there will be slight variations but in a blind sound test 99% would not be able to tell the difference. It's that close. You can watch the video online on Starsky Carr's channel. Objectively, it doesn't sound bad.
And no, Andrew M, it doesn't sound like a "subpar digital VST". At all. It just doesn't. th-cam.com/video/f3dEAptsg_A/w-d-xo.html
It's 2050. Still waiting for Behringer to stop copying so aggressively from others.
Well you may be waiting a while longer. Maybe try the Neutron or the Deepmind in the meantime
why are you so oily
If you want to demo something don’t add extension pedals.
Bad demo of a great synth.
It was supposed to be an attractive demo? WTF
Sounds thin...
looks even more plastic and cheap than expected. to me, every synth that I buy needs to able to become an absolute favourite piece of mine: starting from the company and philosophy behind it, to its character, built and sound...than I do not regret a buy. cheap cheap and more and more doesn't do the job for me - sorry
nope i just got one from Perfect Circuit and its built like a tank
Not what I’ve heard. I heard it’s probably one of their most hefty synths. Obviously not first hand but still I’m hearing that from trusted sources
That's your opinion but it's also obviously a Moog fanboy description that doesn't match up to reality by any means, since I doubt you've even seen one let alone heard one in person. I own several Moog synths and my experience with the Poly D is anything but dismissive and in fact I'm in awe of it. It sounds just as amazing as my Grand Mother, Minitaur and DFAM. In fact it fits in the kit perfectly along side my many other analog synths! Sadly, it was a loaner and I had to return it, but when I'm finished paying off my Korg Wavestate I plan to own the BOOG Poly D!