its just so incredibly sad that she has ruined her relationship with the other three girls for a career that will never pan out the way she wanted it to. her laughing along whilst nicki badmouthed her supposed sister leigh-anne was the final nail in the coffin for me. leigh-anne, jade and perrie's solo debuts will no doubt out perform hers as well. as a little mix fan i loved watching their friendship and how much they loved eachother, i'm still really shocked that jesy hasn't spoken to any of them since she left the group
nah fr 💀 like she could've just... sorted out her differences w them privately instead of soiling the relationship they all had. and then she could've maybe had a good first single rollout as well as little mix's support. but idk lol maybe it was never meant to be
If she hadn't fucked up with Jade, Leigh and Perrie, I'm sure they would have promoted her single the same way they promoted and supported Leigh's movie
This really isn't suprising since her debut was a tragic mess. I mentioned this before, but she hasn't been active in the music scene since her release of her song Boyz, and for a newer artist like her, this is one of the worst things she can do because people are gonna eventually forget about her. She did have the advantage of leaving the group, but she didn't use it very well. Overall, I honestly think she is not ready for a solo music career at this time.
“She’s not ready for a solo music career at this time.” LMAO, the absolute cheek of that statement and everyone who liked this comment as if you were all rooting for her when the girl was literally dragged through the dirt and hung out to dry by you all the minute the song came out. Stop. She was ready, YOU didn’t allow her to succeed. The end. Thank you very much.
@@BRIXandSTRINGS She left Little Mix because it took a toll on her mental health, so do you think the response to her song Boyz was improving it? MENTALLY she is not ready yet, but she can bounce back if she plays her cards right.
@@cyrobloxofficial9162 Don’t try and catch me out because you’ll fail. I’m not defending anything she did or didn’t do but saying she ‘wasn’t ready’ for a solo career knowing full well you all immediately destroyed it before it even began is some nerve.
@@BRIXandSTRINGS you sure like to speak in generalizations as if you actually know who supported her and who didn't. The fact of the matter is she doesn't have any real artistic direction and that's why her debut felt flat. Also if she left the group for mental health reasons, it really doesn't make sense for her to jump right into a solo career where the stakes are higher and pressure is bigger. I think it would've been smarter for her to wait a bit longer and really perfect her debut before she dropped it
She thought she was going to get the silver spoon of instant success and thought the hype for her was at an all time high, but instead she got the total opposite, and her messy and controversial debut is the perfect example of what not to do… when kickstarting your career, I applaud Jesy for acknowledging her mental health, but she wasn’t ready to be a solo act, and she and Nicki added fuel to the fire for a song that was not even good, badmouthed her band mates not realizing that your previous Little Mix fans were going to follow you, and your actions which bit her right in the ass.. so Jesy all I can say is get some good writers, and producers, and get a new and efficient team, but other than that idk…
Leigh-Anne, Jade, and Perrie probably don't want her back in the group after how she treated Leigh-Anne publicly, how she talked about their team/manager and talked about how she hated the music they made. I bet it felt like a slap in the face. Imagine being best friends with someone for 9 years and as soon as you leave their side you cut off communication and drag them publicly when they have done nothing to you. They probably still have love for her but any relationship they had is gone.
Those who truly love Jesy will make sure she stays well clear of them. They used her to make their millions then the moment she steps out they call her out for BF..
@@richmaxmchalliwchester1984 If Jesy had left in 2013 after she attempted suicide, LM would have disbanded after 1 or 2 years after releasing one more album. That means they would have been together for a shorter amount of time than 5H. So, LM needed all the members.
@@richmaxmchalliwchester1984 she defenetly was the main girl whethere u like it or not. Her and perrie were always the main girls. The othere two were idk just there.
It feels so artificial! Shes spent the last 4years saying how much the music industry damaged her mental health, public commentary on her physical appearance etc! Even made a documentary about it! Then she leaves Little Mix to “focus on herself and mental well-being” Within 10 minutes, she’s signs a solo deal, slags off her previous band mates, starts with the whole “this is the real me, my kind of music” speech! Theres nothing genuine about any of it
Yes I wondered about that too, she said she felt a lot of pressure in Little Mix, but then wanted a solo career were the pressure and attention is all on her.
This!! Like just be honest 🙄 you felt like u were being held back, felt like you're a star and wanted to go solo. Just say it and be honest?? Many ex band members in the industry have thought the exact same and were humbled too
Honestly, if she had stayed on hiatus for the rest of Confetti, participated in the final anniversary projects and parted ways amicably she probably could have left with a lot more goodwill and group fans following her. Its sad because she's a talented dancer and singer who could have gone in so many different directions with her sound but she picked the worst, most generic and inauthentic one and on top of that dogged the same bandmates that had shown her nothing but love till that point.
The backlash behind 'Boyz' was so massive that neither Jesy nor her label could do enough damage control to come back from that... The secondhand embarrassment I felt from the whole situation was very painful! Lmao
i actively tried to avoid reading about her cause the secondhand embarrassment was so strong 🥴 This jesy feels completely different from the little mix jesy we knew
At the end of the day, Jessy forgot one thing; her fans are Little Mix fans. When she left the group to focus on mental health people were rooting for her. But then she showed up solo with a terrible attitude and bashing her former bandmates, the fans felt absolutely tricked and betrayed. So, they're no longer interested, and that's bad because Jessy's very own fanbase was and probably still is Little Mix fans.
I am an avid fan of Little Mix, have been since they were formed. Jesy was my favorite for a long time because I thought I could relate to her on so many levels. In the last few years she has changed so much, and through following her on her journey I know she has also been through a lot, but The way she has been acting the last year and calling it “her authentic self“ just seems like the biggest lie to me. if this is her authentic self then I want nothing to do with it as a fan. I was rooting for her so much in the beginning of course because we all just wanted her to do what was best for her mentally. But to turn around and do a complete 180 in your personality and mock the group and experience that got you to where you are today, just really turned me off from supporting her any further. Plus, the song sucked. I think I tried to lie to myself a bit in the beginning and it got about 3 plays from me before it was removed from my library.
I agree so much I feel bad for everything she went through and I think this whole era is just her trying to grasp at the confidence that has been torn away from her all these years Like I think maybe the whole blackfishing thing she’s doing because she’s that insecure in herself that she wants to basically be a different person and feel pretty and it’s sad She is beautiful but she doesn’t need to do all this to be beautiful
This entire comment >>>> Ironically Jesy and Leigh Anne were my favorites because I saw myself in Leigh Anne being a black girl as well and Jesy had the same kind of laugh as me(if that makes sense?) I always found it annoying when I laughed so heartily as a girl and seeing her not so bothered by it spoke to me When she left I was kinda excited and then everything went downhill from there I really hope she doesn’t suffer to much mentally from this but I do hope she takes a step back to take stock of what she wants from her career as well as recognizing the very valid critiques she’s had flung at her All I can hope for is she never goes back to that dark place of attempted unaliving no one deserves that especially someone as talented as her
Same feeling. I really like jesy and rooting for her since day one. But after what had happened, i really don't know. She leaving the group, no actually, as a mixer, i truly understand and support her leaving for her mentality's sake, but dissing the girls after, saying negative things bout them, like they did not have something special nor she didn't find happiness while in the group. Plus the 'image' she is showing recently, saying that that is her authentic self.. i really don't know. 😔 Unfollowed her on IG and remove her song from my library also..
Yikes that sucks. Well she definitely had a crappy start and her PR wasn’t the greatest. Had she left the group on better terms and had a better attitude, she would have done better. Edit: getting back into Little Mix is a definite no, especially when she dogged her fellow girl mates.
even if she wanted to go back to little mix, as of right now they’re on hiatus given 2 of them are now moms and i’m pretty sure they aren’t talking to jesy but i more than understand if they intended to keep it that way. she should’ve known better.
Ultimately what killed her career is the controversy with her band mates. Their girl group's main theme is sisterhood and feminism and she immediately contradict that 9 year reputation by letting Nicki Minaj talk shit about her band mates like that. That's the exact opposite of her persona when she was in the little mix which was a big turn off to her loyal fans. She didn't know that she can be a baddie and not be a traitor at the same time.
@@Hopeguz3 They struggled because their label didn't want to invest in putting the $ and energy to the American market. They really pushed Fifth Harmony instead of them. By the time they convinced their label to let them have a shot Covid hit. They've had a few hits, high grossing tours and their streams are insane but it's ashamed they never got the chance to take on America.
@@tyronebion342 ora never stood a chance. Her debut was her best effort and her peak. Rip , how we do etc.. She was being branded as a European rihanna. There wasn’t any reason to really support her: there’s better pop stars better vocalists better stage presence etc. I actually saw ora live about 4 years ago as she was a support act and literally couldn’t hold a single note in tune. Jesy can sing but I don’t think anyone was checking for solo music from anyone in little mix. And her debut rollout was a mess apparently from the reviews I’m seeing
She couldn't read the room lol...her style was kinda old and it just didn't translate to American audiences. We didn't know her all like that over here, then she goes and blackfishes? Nah, boo boo...it was giving trying too hard
Rita would’ve actually done pretty well in the US (probably same success as Jessie J) it’s just that she cheated on Calvin Harris who was producing her debut US album at the time, so he took all the songs and barred them from ever getting released. By the time she managed to get out from that US interest in her had faded
and out of the 4 girls, Jade is the only one capable to get international success and have a clean debut, perrie and Lee are as talented as her, but now being moms, I don't think they want the stressful popstar life, not right now
Possibly but I think from an old interview (also from memory but couldn't tell you which interview it was though) with LM, they were the ones that said that Jesy was the one that contributed to most of the RnB, Rap and hip-hoppy beats to all of their songs in the past so it's no different to what she's doing now. Only issue that's making it really difficult for her is that she handled the bad PR really terribly but also from following her IG, it doesn't seem like she cares that much about her solo career going off. It just looks like she would rather spend time with her friends and family and making music went from a career to an expensive hobby.
@@Mr0011011 Perrie was barely there too, but y'all don't call her out. Jesy has only wrote 10 songs, Perrie has only wrote 13 songs, Leigh-Anne has wrote 16 songs and Jade has wrote 20 songs.
If she would have just had good relationship with the other members of little mix, I don’t think she would be at this point. The reasons why Jesy’s career failed can be summarized: 1. Her and Nicki bullying Leigh Anne in the instagram live 2. Her performance at the jingle bell ball (are you ready) and lipsyncing at other performances after she went solo. I mean other singers have lipsynced too but when she was in Little Mix she would be singing live in all the performances, so it is a sort of regression.
...and she brings nothing new to the table. the market is oversaturated with the generic-pop-girl-who-dances-with-big-hair-and-over-the-top-outfits formula. well, that and the blackfishing. but she has her millions. she's set for life, she'll be fine.
It was rushed. I think a huge part of it was because she wanted to separate herself from Little Mix, but that's not easy because she was a part of them with for 9 years and hadn't experimented during that time on top of cyber bullying and mental health issues. She really should've taken at least two years to heal and rediscover 1/4 of herself. And instead of coming out with a below medicore song, exploiting black men, culture, and blackfishing, debut with a vulnerable, maybe mid tempo song that shows a real R&B and Hip Hop side she said she loved.
Way too rushed imo. I know the girls didn’t like the feeling of her rushing off instead of wrapping things up properly and saying goodbye to her girls. Or very least a thank you? She didn’t get to where she was by herself 🤷🏾♂️
@@TimoteoDeBaum I remember reading an article that said the girls were one of the few who encouraged her to leave after a severe panic attack on set. They had been with her through everything so it wasn't surprising that they supported her, but I think the true heartbreak was that live Jesy did with Nicki Minaj. She should've stopped Nicki from talking about Leigh-Anne like that and end the live on a positive note. It's really sad to see where she is now because this could've been avoided if she hadn't rushed.
@@akiraholland457 She exploited the stereotype that black men have (gold teeth, tattoos, hood love) that set them back for many things, on top of the blackfishing.
Sadly, she totally ruined her career by herself by being unapologetically ignorant. I’ve been a big fan of Little Mix for years so I will always have some kind of love for Jesy, despite everything, so I do wish her the best but it’s just disappointing to see how she handled all of this. This has to be the worst debut of all time for an ex girl band member 😭I just want to know who her PR manager is? I could do a better job than them! I can bet loads of money that one of the other three girls will end up having a much more successful career despite not being the first one to debut.
When she initially left, I was very supportive of her because mental health is very important. But the whole thing that happened with Nicki Minaj and Leigh-Anne just change my opinion completely. The whole situation hurts so much that I can’t even bop to little mix as much as I used to do because I liked their bond so much. Now anytime I put little mix on, the vibe is not just there.😔
Same! Especially when they talk about their friendship and sisterhood in old videos, now all I can think about is where it all went wrong. Their dynamic changed even in 2019 when she didn’t appear in any fun content they did on their channel
Go back to little mix? I don't think she can lol. it seems like Jessi has been intentionally and unintentionally burning bridges as she goes & not learning anything from it. I don't think reuniting with the girls is an option anymore. (Wish it were though🙁)
@@VenusManTrap-777 I mean, they would be considering they are flopping without her. In 10 years or so, when they have one of those reunion tours, Jesy will 100% be asked to return.
@@tjsquibbofficial ur so delusional. saying little mix is flopping when jesy is nowhere to be seen, her solo wouldnt even make noise if she wasnt doing problematic things n if a huge us rapper wasnt featured in.
I honestly don't think she's got a voice for solo work. She has a very unique voice but because of it I don't think it works well not being accompanied by others
@@Gabriel-nw6lb I'm not even tryna be shady. As much as I don't like her I think she has a very nice voice I just don't think it suits not having something g to accompany it
I would like to see a video about Missy Elliott & her career & impact on hip hop/rap. I would also like to see a video of Brandy & her career & her impact on r&b music & her Full Moon / Afrodisiac Era & why Brandy is an important figure in r&b
Jesy tried to pull of the “good girl gone bad” but it went tremendously bad. The weak single she dropped plus all the controversy just made her debut as a solo artist a disaster. I hope she changes for the better, and if she ever decides to make a comeback, I hope she takes notes from all of this of what NOT to do and make better choices.
She should have followed in Robbie Williams/Geri Halliwell's foot steps and kept her mouth shut about the other girls as she left and made sure her first solo stuff wasn't too different from what she made while being with the group to attract the original fans, while creating a new fanbase. She left messy, changed personality, and music style...way too much for a new start
@@2law2be She tried to hard to get rid of the “little mix” image and in short amount of time, that’s why she changed completely. Big mistake, cause she pulled it wrongly
Jesy needs to deal with her demons and stop projecting them on everybody else. She could've been great but now she's a lesson for others to learn from.
Damn it's a bit sad, I hope she can reflect on herself, on her actions and words. She has such a beautiful voice. Hopefully she will be able to find herself :/
I gave this woman a pass so many times. I had nothing but love and support when she left. If she could have kept her mouth shut publicly like the other girls and not name dropped them in her debut (like wtf) I would have wished her well and moved on. But all she wanted to discuss was how much she hated being in little mix and hated all the music she’d ever made. I don’t wish her any ill will, but I just don’t care anymore. And apparently no one else does either. Coulda been a great solo artist. Too bad.
It's hilarious how she kept saying she wanted to take a more R & B route but her debut was pop. Having Nicki rap on it didn't change the genre. It's another generic pop song.
i think jesy’s solo plans were widely centered on really trying to lean into the hiphop/rnb “aesthetic” that so many non-black artists used to employ in years past, who would later go on to drop that image once they were more secure in their success. even when done well, that trajectory isn’t as easy to pull off now as it was in the early 2000s, and jesy definitely didn’t do it well.
I wish her the best but she really didn’t want to address her problematic behaviour and eventually her time in the spotlight with LM got outshined by her refusal to listen to criticism and grow from it
It's crazy because Jesy was a very likeable person! Specially when she shared about her issues with mental health and all the cyber bullying she has faced since X Factor... but she threw it all away. If she continued being nice even if the song was bad she would have more people on her side. 🤷🏾♀️
Right? Am I right as a white woman to imagine that if not for the black fishing and her laughing as Nikki Minaj insulted Leigh Anne that more people would view this as a clumsy debut rather than a complete flop?
I subscribed as soon as you mentioned how jesy said this is the Music she always wanted to make apart from little mix and the fact that this sound just like a fuckin little mix song just with her singing it. I knew at that point you speaking my language!
To be honest , the song was okay not bad, it just wasn’t a great song to put as a single . Its weird how she just released one song and it’s about to become a year since she released it and hasn’t even released anything. I feel like she if little mix came back in the future, I feel like she should join back because I’m starting to have little hope that her career won’t make it far … but I wish her the best !!
The whole debut was a mess from the start, not only did she sample bad boys for life by Diddy but the video was a straight up copy cat and the lyrics were that childish it was painful to listen to plus it exposed her for not being that great vocally compared to the other girls. Then there's the video of her laughing when Nicki Minaj was shading Leeanne which lost her fans then the jingle ball performance which was woeful and her cocky attitude didn't help. I hate to say it serves her right but it really does and I hope she has time to reflect on her behaviour and hopefully do something that is her rather than this.
That song was horrible, from the fake voice she puts on, to cringe lines like “we got that hood love”. Im struggling to find anything redeeming about this song, its just so awful
@@_Sasha1931 I mean Song and Video were interpolates Bad Boys For Life by Diddy and he approved it , so I kinda considered the more of a Remix song . yeah I have to agree that song’s lyrics , sound like a 11 year old wrote a song about be cool or bad . But all we can do is wish her luck
@@Thisaccountisrip I actually cringed at the lyrics and the copycat video and can't understand for the life of me why her label thought this was a good idea. I can only think that Jesy surrounded herself with yes people because if I was her label boss of her manager I'd have said no Jesy this is a terrible idea and the worst one I've heard.
Culture? Culture is suppose to be shared and telling someone they can do certain music just because they are a certain race is ✨racist✨ Just like there's people who don't lioe to see black people doing country or rock. If anything what failed was that she kept pretending to be brown.
That’s the thing tho sooo many people didn’t know she white to begin with since she tried so hard to make herself ethnically ambiguous 😂. I also don’t think she would have hit it off as well within her culture, because they’re super into Taylor, Olivia, Billie, and Ariana rn, and all of them either embrace their whiteness or have a big enough fanbase to drown out the blackfish/appropriation issues
@@LP-ct9nk You probably don’t mean them, but when did Billie, Olivia, or Taylor appropriate? If you mean Billie’s baggy clothes it was because she was a minor at the time
How conformist of you! An example of woke people being hypocritical. Also this outrage for "cultural appropiation" is the same as "if I'm not happy you don't deserve to be happy either". So progressive!
The most surprising part is that polydor let her walk away instead of shelving her like other musicians, and not letting her go until a prolonged years long contract batttle.
This reminded me about The Pussycat Dolls situation. Nicole was trying to do solo but it never went anywhere except in the U.K…hopefully “redemption” and making a better music maybe Jesy can come back stronger
It’s sad because vocally she was one of my favorites from the band. But I don’t like the direction she is wanting to go. I hope she takes some time and figures it out.
The label wasn't the right one for her, in the sense that they gave her the freedom to do whatever she wanted, and she wasn't ready for that. _If she wanted to be like a big pop star,_ she needed so much direction and structure to bloom into something new (but she was tired of control in LM too); _if she wanted total freedom_ to find herself and express herself, then she shouldn't have gone to a big label, because in most cases, that's not the place to do that (maybe, what she needs and wants are not on the same page?). So it's bad that she lost such a big opportunity, but it's good because maybe now she can focus on herself more. IMO, she doesn't even know who she is as an artist (something very common for people who were in GGs/BBs like her). She's a great dancer and singer, yes, but it's been a while since she's always messy with her words, actions, and decisions. Contradictory on the worst occasions and it's unfortunate because that just damages her image more and more. The life of a pop star ain't always easy, but I feel like she doesn't want to pay even the slightest for it(which is valid, but then again, it has its own consequences that she doesn't seem ready or willing to pay as well). I think she really has to take some time for her: to rest, think, mature, and heal. If she continues with this path, maybe she´ll damage her career forever. She already hurt a significant part of her fandom because of what happened with Nikki, and yeah, maybe she'll be forgotten if she doesn't get enough exposure, but what could be worst than continuing this train of decisions of hers? She's rich, she can heal slowly and take her time; melancholy from fans could help her more than the loss/ rejection/ sadness/ tedium/ disappointment that many fans or pg feel towards her. Her quick debut after talking about her struggles with her mental health (which was why she left the group) was something that left many of us thinking too.
It makes me a little sad to see such a talent fall this hard, but I hope she learns from this. I think both Jesy and Little Mix lost something when Jesy left the group. The four of them together were definitely far greater than the sum of their parts and, despite all of their talent, Little Mix does not have the same spark they had when they were a quartet. I sincerely hope they can resolve and grow past their differences, and then reunite to be better than they have ever been. If that can't happen, then I hope they can at least part ways without any bitterness and go in exciting (and successful) new directions with their music.
Jesy's controversy definitely overshadowed her song. Even if the song was amazing, it really wouldn't matter because she handled the controversy so poorly. She was actually really smart to have Nicki Minaj collab with her to bring in new people to her fanbase, but as you said in a previous video, majority of her fanbase were Little Mix fans, and she alienated them by bullying Leigh-Anne. If/when Little Mix reunite, I don't think Jesy would be welcomed back by the group or the fans.
I agree. One mediocre song and then 10 months of silence won't work. She should have released another single in early 2022. Maybe a different direction but releasing nothing was a stupid move. But she was in the studio so it makes me think that Boyz was the best of the songs she recorded, which is tragic. I also think she didn't find her style. Honestly speaking she was never a songwriter and wrote the least out of the 4 girls. But she had producers like will I am so I do wonder why they weren't capable of giving her a decent debut single instead of this PDiddy Sample. Also Nicki Minaj kinda damaged Jesy more than helping her lol If Little Mix returns, I doubt they want to work with her again (I don't know if they will return because Bands always promise it (One direction etc.) And then don't comeback). I don't see Jesy with a big label anytime soon because I doubt anyone wants to work with her. All the bad media + lack of artistic vision aren't really appealing and I wouldn't invest money in her after that Boyz flop. I see her on reality t.v. in a couple for years tbh
When you wanna be big and bad and burn bridges and throw shade etc you better MAKE SURE you’re gonna make it baby!!! I do not feel bad for this lady 🤷🏾♂️ prayers tho 🙏🏾
what’s kinda funny is how avoidable her downfall was. if she had just defended leigh anne from nicki minaj, apologized for cultural appropriation, and got on good terms with her former members, she probably would have been fine. at least little mix fans would’ve streamed her music and stuff. she kinda ruined herself and her own career.
Honestly I’ve supported Little Mix for some years & can say I’m one of the lucky US fans that got to see them live during the Dangerous Woman tour & honestly I was genuinely routing for her until the shady fall out & well now look at how it all ended I hope it was worth it Jesy. Honestly wish her the best tho, coming from a long time supporter you can’t just leave a 10yr+ group & be shady like that specially when they’ve supported you openly on your traumas & down play them like that, it made her seem a bit fake unfortunately. I understand it’s between the girls at the end of the day but don’t forget the fans can see things too specially once it’s public.
If only Jesy left, had a rest instead of instantly going solo after saying she was so depressed, still had an amazing relationship with her amazing sisters.... I would still follow and love her :(
Good as they shouLD 👏🏾‼️ On the real tho this has been one of the more interesting pop career trainwrecks I’ve seen in a hot minute. It reminds me of Iggy’s implosion, but faster (and it’s no coincidence they both suffered from blackfishing backlash and perceived lack of authenticity and talent). You can totally tell she didn’t see it coming either seeing as how a couple weeks ago she was doing damage control statements when news of her label shelving her first leaked. The delusion she has is amazing. Also if I was a new pop girly I’d be denying a nicki feature with my whole life. Not only does she have her baggage (that husband of hers esp rn), but she has shown time and time again she will use you and then drop you when convenient leaving you to clean up messes she makes
Damn this makes me sad I really was rooting for her it makes me sad to see her sacked I grew up with this woman and seeing her go from hero to zero breaks my heart I was hoping she could bounce back with her next single and eventual album I semi expected this due to her fuck ups and the controversies and bandwagoning But to see it happen is just crazy Hopefully this is one of the many setbacks she can overcome
No one was praying on anyones dowmfall. We just all have brains and saw that jesy’s inflated ego and repeated choices she made purposefully (after tons of correction and advice) would hit reality and consequences soon. She’s not the first and won’t be the last
@@LP-ct9nk nah people definitely are lol. I am not talking just about Jesy - it seems like people are more enthusiastic about others' lives being destroyed and them flopping than actually trying to teach them about their mistakes. That's our culture tho deny it all you want
@@mandyleepie12 exactly. not saying that what she did is right, but it seems like people are really enjoying watching her fail and her career being destroyed, it is petty as hell.
Jesy is talented and I believe she can release really good music. Her next single has to be a solo single that showcases her vocals. No twerking and pum pum shorts, no features, no unnecessary samples and random cameos. I just want it to be her
I think the problem with Boyz is that she was trying too hard. Trying to replicate 90s/2000s MVs + featuring another artist who's bigger than her + cameo by the artist she sampled... it screams overcompensation and insecurity. She was trying to start a solo career, her first single should be about her and only her, not this circus and that over the top performance at the Jingle Bell Ball.
The record label was probably looking for a more “pop” sound for her. There’s no problem for her wanting to do RnB but it’s the way she came about it to change her whole appearance to look/act “blk/gangsta” and the song was tragic because your 1st solo song shouldn’t be a remake of someone else’s song no matter if their song was a hit or not. Then we found out that Little Mix warned her about black fishing before she quit to which she brushed off. Then there was the whole sticking her tongue out which sweetie no one like it when Miley did it. Last but certainly not least she laughed when Nicki Minaj went on a rant about her former friend/bandmate which had nothing to do with her, very disrespectful and shady. All of that just about wrapped up her career.
This Jesy Nelson situation proves that not everyone is meant to go Solo. The debut was a disaster and the Nicki Minaj Little Mix thing didn't help her at all.
Some video extracts of her dancing and singing live in that red outfit and the long silver wig reaaally reminded me of CL's style... hard to reach the level of an already established queen :'D
She alienated her fans with that attitude towards the group that made her... and her fans/little mix fans are the ones that would have supported her... smh
She can't get back into little mix. They said they haven't been talking since she left the group and I feel like if she told them that she wanted to do solo music, they would have wished her the best and let her do it. All of them will go solo for a while now and then get back together. But without jesy
She thought she was gonna be the Beyonce or Harry styles of the group when she left. This is a clear example of karma coming back to haunt her and I feel embarrassed for her. Like I hope mentally she's ok but you can't bully people, black fish, not apologize to Leigh Anne, make terrible music and think you're gonna succeed. As I said before she has talent but she was easily the weakest vocalist of little mix and I knew in my heart she would flop even before the drama came out. I wasn't expecting the label to drop her though. Hope she now knows Little mix was where she belonged and where she became apart of a lengdary group. I honestly have hope for jade Leigh Anne and perrie solo especially Leigh Anne who I think is the best overall vocalist of the group and versitile. I think she will be the one to become popular in America. I am hoping all 3 taste success and don't flop.
I'm honestly done with your delusion. You think Leigh-Anne is the strongest at EVERYTHING. It's so cringey seeing you suck up to someone so much. Leigh is talented but she isn't the strongest vocally or dance wise in LM, and never will be. She's improved a lot, yes but she'll never be on the same level as the other girls.
@@AlwaysLM2011 No, I'm just unbiased. Literally ANY Vocal Coach or vocal analysis video puts Leigh-Anne as 3rd place out of the 4 girls. It's not illegal to put a White Singer above a Black Singer. Race doesn't matter.
I think she walked away. If she was dropped better than be stuck like so many other artist people rave about. How many artists have record deals but cannot release anything. Jesy is free but those who are embittered and desperate for her to fail will not see it like that.
I'm just so happy that the three other members of LM are yet to drop their own singles plus they've all learnt one or two from Jesy's mistakes. I wish the three girls, especially my absolute sunshine Leighanne a massive success. 💚💚🌟💐
Poor girl spent her late teens and whole adult life being attacked for no reason in Little Mix. Less would give anyone a distorted identity. She has no idea who she really is. Maybe this will give her a chance to step back and work on that. Then she can put that in her music and come back swinging.
Personally, I would have liked to hear a more jazz or neo soul influenced album, with lyrics written in collaboration with a good songwriter. Something less pop and that didn't focus on dance but vocal performance. But, that's obviously just my preference and not what she wanted.
They are the most successful girl group of the 2010s and now the most streamed girl group of all time. The only things they've hinted that were regretted is being tied to Simon Cowell and not being to given a fair chance to make it in America. When they got a new record deal they were finally given the chance but then Covid hit. Honestly they seemed happier with Jesy and had some of their best performances without her.
She should have stuck with the other ladies and finished her dayz with Little Mix and then released her solo. She was there for confetti album anyway so she should have waited did the tour picked up the Brit for best group and parted ways amicably with the Ladies. It doesn’t always work out the same way that it did for Robbie (Take That) & Geri (Spice Girls).
Jesse Nelson just need to take her time with her music and make sure the performances are amazing like she did with little mix she doesn't need to try so hard be yourself stop being something that you're not love yourself
I know we may not know everything that goes on behind closed doors but from a public point of view it seems like the girls stuck by her, appeared in her documentary, and have been supportive of her. I think it's disgusting how shes treated them all- I know mental health is important and if she did leave the group for that reason then fair enough but she left to be a solo star (let's be honset) as she thought she would be popular enough after her documentary. It's just such an shame she couldnt of waited a bit more so all the girls could shared 10 yrs of Little Mix together-tbh I think Jesy has been incredibly selfish-if it really was for her mental health then wouldnt she of gone away for a few yrs then came back ? I think it was less than a yr and she tried putting out her solo work 🙄. I would love to know what really happened but we'll probs never know.
Her biggest mistake is leaving Little Mix on bad terms and starting anew with a bad team! She could have been big if she just laid low after the last LM album and didn't throw shade at the girls at the beginning of her solo career. She and her team ruined her.
I don't think that LM would ever take her back into the group should she want to return. Jesy burned quite a few bridges on her way out & went about her exit the wrong way, at the wrong time, for the wrong reasons. I don't believe the "mental health" stuff... She was in the studio within days following the public announcement of her departure. It wasn't mental health or the pressures of celebrity. And it wasn't the "type of music" excuse either, her one & only single is right in line with the type of music LM was doing more & more of.
The similarities to 5H are surprising to me. Camilla being the first out and also having kind of a failed debut with crying in the club (which is a banger imo), plus the group doing good without her just like little mix without Jesy
I feel like people were mad at her as well is because she said the reason she was leaving Little Mix was due to bullying of the media and mental health. And by her tone and words she made it sound like she was done with the music industry as a whole. But then when she said she is coming out with a solo career everyone was confused because if your leaving a group because the media and fans are bullying you, why would you go solo and put more attention on yourself to get bullied more? I just feel like Jessie left Little Mix to go solo but didn’t want to tell the fans or media that and lied and got caught in it.
Not gonna lie the first thing I thought about was how quickly she was able to get out of a legal contract. Usually that stuff takes a long time before everything is finalized
you can always start from scratch, even if her debut was bad, everyone knows her, she is pretty and sexy, she has a good voice, so I don’t think that her career is over. 😉
She's done. Sad because she was my favourite girl in LM but she has burned too many bridges. She's almost a completely different person now compared to when she first started out.
The clips of the video playing is giving me major secondhand embarrassment. She really thought blackfishing and snatching up (played out) stereotypes about black men for her video was the way to go?? Super yikes!
its just so incredibly sad that she has ruined her relationship with the other three girls for a career that will never pan out the way she wanted it to. her laughing along whilst nicki badmouthed her supposed sister leigh-anne was the final nail in the coffin for me. leigh-anne, jade and perrie's solo debuts will no doubt out perform hers as well. as a little mix fan i loved watching their friendship and how much they loved eachother, i'm still really shocked that jesy hasn't spoken to any of them since she left the group
Ever since that happened I look back and notice she was always kind of different than them
nah fr 💀 like she could've just... sorted out her differences w them privately instead of soiling the relationship they all had. and then she could've maybe had a good first single rollout as well as little mix's support. but idk lol maybe it was never meant to be
that's bc her bullying past turned her into a vapid, bitter, self-pitying loser who takes out her self-hatred on other people
If she hadn't fucked up with Jade, Leigh and Perrie, I'm sure they would have promoted her single the same way they promoted and supported Leigh's movie
@@shaxierela exactly!! having their support would've made all the difference in the world imo
This really isn't suprising since her debut was a tragic mess. I mentioned this before, but she hasn't been active in the music scene since her release of her song Boyz, and for a newer artist like her, this is one of the worst things she can do because people are gonna eventually forget about her. She did have the advantage of leaving the group, but she didn't use it very well. Overall, I honestly think she is not ready for a solo music career at this time.
“She’s not ready for a solo music career at this time.” LMAO, the absolute cheek of that statement and everyone who liked this comment as if you were all rooting for her when the girl was literally dragged through the dirt and hung out to dry by you all the minute the song came out. Stop. She was ready, YOU didn’t allow her to succeed. The end. Thank you very much.
@@BRIXandSTRINGS She left Little Mix because it took a toll on her mental health, so do you think the response to her song Boyz was improving it? MENTALLY she is not ready yet, but she can bounce back if she plays her cards right.
@@cyrobloxofficial9162 Don’t try and catch me out because you’ll fail. I’m not defending anything she did or didn’t do but saying she ‘wasn’t ready’ for a solo career knowing full well you all immediately destroyed it before it even began is some nerve.
@@sebastianbecerra4315 Well she sure ain’t MENTALLY ready now after what you all did to her.
@@BRIXandSTRINGS you sure like to speak in generalizations as if you actually know who supported her and who didn't. The fact of the matter is she doesn't have any real artistic direction and that's why her debut felt flat. Also if she left the group for mental health reasons, it really doesn't make sense for her to jump right into a solo career where the stakes are higher and pressure is bigger. I think it would've been smarter for her to wait a bit longer and really perfect her debut before she dropped it
She thought she was going to get the silver spoon of instant success and thought the hype for her was at an all time high, but instead she got the total opposite, and her messy and controversial debut is the perfect example of what not to do… when kickstarting your career, I applaud Jesy for acknowledging her mental health, but she wasn’t ready to be a solo act, and she and Nicki added fuel to the fire for a song that was not even good, badmouthed her band mates not realizing that your previous Little Mix fans were going to follow you, and your actions which bit her right in the ass.. so Jesy all I can say is get some good writers, and producers, and get a new and efficient team, but other than that idk…
Silver spoon 🥄
And lose the tan
@@tavern2468 now I prefer fork 😄
@@tavern2468 lol 😂😂😂😂
@@Jettypilelegs Ty thank you for not leaving me hanging😊😊😊😊
Leigh-Anne, Jade, and Perrie probably don't want her back in the group after how she treated Leigh-Anne publicly, how she talked about their team/manager and talked about how she hated the music they made. I bet it felt like a slap in the face. Imagine being best friends with someone for 9 years and as soon as you leave their side you cut off communication and drag them publicly when they have done nothing to you. They probably still have love for her but any relationship they had is gone.
Highly doubt they still have love for her. After how she left the group, the is no love lost between Little Mix and Jesy.
Those who truly love Jesy will make sure she stays well clear of them. They used her to make their millions then the moment she steps out they call her out for BF..
@@relaxationmusicbodyandmind6265 you sound delusional. Twisting the narrative to suit your fave eh?
@@richmaxmchalliwchester1984 If Jesy had left in 2013 after she attempted suicide, LM would have disbanded after 1 or 2 years after releasing one more album. That means they would have been together for a shorter amount of time than 5H. So, LM needed all the members.
@@richmaxmchalliwchester1984 she defenetly was the main girl whethere u like it or not. Her and perrie were always the main girls. The othere two were idk just there.
It feels so artificial! Shes spent the last 4years saying how much the music industry damaged her mental health, public commentary on her physical appearance etc! Even made a documentary about it!
Then she leaves Little Mix to “focus on herself and mental well-being”
Within 10 minutes, she’s signs a solo deal, slags off her previous band mates, starts with the whole “this is the real me, my kind of music” speech!
Theres nothing genuine about any of it
Yes I wondered about that too, she said she felt a lot of pressure in Little Mix, but then wanted a solo career were the pressure and attention is all on her.
This!! Like just be honest 🙄 you felt like u were being held back, felt like you're a star and wanted to go solo. Just say it and be honest?? Many ex band members in the industry have thought the exact same and were humbled too
I’m pretty sure she signed the deal way before she left Little Mix. Cuz there’s no way they could’ve accepted her that fast.
You said it all true
Notice the difference between Leigh’s support for Jesy’s documentary, and Jesy’s “support,” for Leigh’s?
Honestly, if she had stayed on hiatus for the rest of Confetti, participated in the final anniversary projects and parted ways amicably she probably could have left with a lot more goodwill and group fans following her. Its sad because she's a talented dancer and singer who could have gone in so many different directions with her sound but she picked the worst, most generic and inauthentic one and on top of that dogged the same bandmates that had shown her nothing but love till that point.
You smart. You should be a manager
I think she just need therapy. Fix herself and apologize genuinely and publicly to her bandmates and fans.
my sentiments exactly
@@akiraholland457 she already has been in therapy for years but some people are beyond help when their bitterness eats them up from the inside
💯💯
The backlash behind 'Boyz' was so massive that neither Jesy nor her label could do enough damage control to come back from that... The secondhand embarrassment I felt from the whole situation was very painful! Lmao
Bruh Nicki could’nt even save her 😩 the tragedy of it all 😭
Wow, you right!! Lol
i actively tried to avoid reading about her cause the secondhand embarrassment was so strong 🥴 This jesy feels completely different from the little mix jesy we knew
@@TimoteoDeBaum if anything nicki made it worse on that one insta live...
@@soph5976 Nicki made it worse for sure.
Kinda sad and funny. The label invested a lot in a huge US rapper and it backfires
At the end of the day, Jessy forgot one thing; her fans are Little Mix fans. When she left the group to focus on mental health people were rooting for her. But then she showed up solo with a terrible attitude and bashing her former bandmates, the fans felt absolutely tricked and betrayed. So, they're no longer interested, and that's bad because Jessy's very own fanbase was and probably still is Little Mix fans.
Facts
She’s a strong, Jamaican woman and she WILL get through this 😤
Dead😂
HOLLERING 😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Screaming 😭😭
I don't get it please explain 😅
I am an avid fan of Little Mix, have been since they were formed. Jesy was my favorite for a long time because I thought I could relate to her on so many levels. In the last few years she has changed so much, and through following her on her journey I know she has also been through a lot, but The way she has been acting the last year and calling it “her authentic self“ just seems like the biggest lie to me. if this is her authentic self then I want nothing to do with it as a fan. I was rooting for her so much in the beginning of course because we all just wanted her to do what was best for her mentally. But to turn around and do a complete 180 in your personality and mock the group and experience that got you to where you are today, just really turned me off from supporting her any further.
Plus, the song sucked. I think I tried to lie to myself a bit in the beginning and it got about 3 plays from me before it was removed from my library.
I feel the exact same way. Down to removing the song from my library.
I agree so much
I feel bad for everything she went through and I think this whole era is just her trying to grasp at the confidence that has been torn away from her all these years
Like I think maybe the whole blackfishing thing she’s doing because she’s that insecure in herself that she wants to basically be a different person and feel pretty and it’s sad
She is beautiful but she doesn’t need to do all this to be beautiful
Exactly how I felt. Jesy was my favourite and now I can’t support her whatsoever
This entire comment >>>> Ironically Jesy and Leigh Anne were my favorites because I saw myself in Leigh Anne being a black girl as well and Jesy had the same kind of laugh as me(if that makes sense?) I always found it annoying when I laughed so heartily as a girl and seeing her not so bothered by it spoke to me
When she left I was kinda excited and then everything went downhill from there I really hope she doesn’t suffer to much mentally from this but I do hope she takes a step back to take stock of what she wants from her career as well as recognizing the very valid critiques she’s had flung at her
All I can hope for is she never goes back to that dark place of attempted unaliving no one deserves that especially someone as talented as her
Same feeling. I really like jesy and rooting for her since day one. But after what had happened, i really don't know. She leaving the group, no actually, as a mixer, i truly understand and support her leaving for her mentality's sake, but dissing the girls after, saying negative things bout them, like they did not have something special nor she didn't find happiness while in the group. Plus the 'image' she is showing recently, saying that that is her authentic self.. i really don't know. 😔 Unfollowed her on IG and remove her song from my library also..
*She’s one of those people who labels just don’t know what to do with. She has no identity*
Right...she's literally trying to be someone else
@@flyleelee5351 she tryna be a Hip-Hop vixen
She does, she's Jamaican.
@@Isabella-wm3th balegdh 🤪
@@Isabella-wm3th y'all WOULD claim her 🙄🤦🏾♀️🤣
Stay strong, Jesy Nelson Mandela! Remember you are the true African queen
🤣🤣🤣🤣 somebody needs to take away your phone
LMAOOOOO
I could not stop laughing
This has no business being this funny
I thought you were being supportive until I read jesy Mandela
Yikes that sucks. Well she definitely had a crappy start and her PR wasn’t the greatest. Had she left the group on better terms and had a better attitude, she would have done better.
Edit: getting back into Little Mix is a definite no, especially when she dogged her fellow girl mates.
even if she wanted to go back to little mix, as of right now they’re on hiatus given 2 of them are now moms and i’m pretty sure they aren’t talking to jesy but i more than understand if they intended to keep it that way. she should’ve known better.
Ultimately what killed her career is the controversy with her band mates. Their girl group's main theme is sisterhood and feminism and she immediately contradict that 9 year reputation by letting Nicki Minaj talk shit about her band mates like that. That's the exact opposite of her persona when she was in the little mix which was a big turn off to her loyal fans. She didn't know that she can be a baddie and not be a traitor at the same time.
@@GRA5S The blackfishing controversy and Nicki backing her up on that definitely didn't help either
Touché everyone. Also Little Mix struggled in the US market anyways, she unfortunately wasn’t special either.
@@Hopeguz3 They struggled because their label didn't want to invest in putting the $ and energy to the American market. They really pushed Fifth Harmony instead of them. By the time they convinced their label to let them have a shot Covid hit. They've had a few hits, high grossing tours and their streams are insane but it's ashamed they never got the chance to take on America.
She thought she could cross over in the U.S. and it failed. Oh well
Right!
Rita Ora thought the same too but she’s still trying lol
@@tyronebion342 ora never stood a chance. Her debut was her best effort and her peak. Rip , how we do etc.. She was being branded as a European rihanna. There wasn’t any reason to really support her: there’s better pop stars better vocalists better stage presence etc. I actually saw ora live about 4 years ago as she was a support act and literally couldn’t hold a single note in tune. Jesy can sing but I don’t think anyone was checking for solo music from anyone in little mix. And her debut rollout was a mess apparently from the reviews I’m seeing
She couldn't read the room lol...her style was kinda old and it just didn't translate to American audiences. We didn't know her all like that over here, then she goes and blackfishes? Nah, boo boo...it was giving trying too hard
Rita would’ve actually done pretty well in the US (probably same success as Jessie J) it’s just that she cheated on Calvin Harris who was producing her debut US album at the time, so he took all the songs and barred them from ever getting released. By the time she managed to get out from that US interest in her had faded
Just because you're from a girl group doesn't mean you're gonna be solo material, only a very few can manage that
and out of the 4 girls, Jade is the only one capable to get international success and have a clean debut, perrie and Lee are as talented as her, but now being moms, I don't think they want the stressful popstar life, not right now
*Cough Cough* Beyoncé *Cough Cough*
Yea if you’re 1/4 of a mediocre group ain’t nothin gonna happen even if you use Nikki Minaj.
@@tavern2468 sorry "mediocre group"?
@@tavern2468 “mediocre” LMFAOAOAOAOAO. Couldn’t be further from the truth🤣
She didn't really wanted to make a different kind of music LM was already doing, she just wanted a solo career...
Exactly my thoughts. She is still hella insecure that she was so desperate to be different/non comparable to her band mates.
Possibly but I think from an old interview (also from memory but couldn't tell you which interview it was though) with LM, they were the ones that said that Jesy was the one that contributed to most of the RnB, Rap and hip-hoppy beats to all of their songs in the past so it's no different to what she's doing now. Only issue that's making it really difficult for her is that she handled the bad PR really terribly but also from following her IG, it doesn't seem like she cares that much about her solo career going off. It just looks like she would rather spend time with her friends and family and making music went from a career to an expensive hobby.
@@Justakez Girl was barely in the studio during Little Mix. LM5 was their most RnB sound and she was barely there.
@@Mr0011011 Perrie was barely there too, but y'all don't call her out. Jesy has only wrote 10 songs, Perrie has only wrote 13 songs, Leigh-Anne has wrote 16 songs and Jade has wrote 20 songs.
@@tjsquibbofficial cause perrie was way more involved in the studio than jesy. like in their last two album jesy only cowrote 3 songs.
"As many of you know Jesy had a disastrous debut" I-😂
If she would have just had good relationship with the other members of little mix, I don’t think she would be at this point. The reasons why Jesy’s career failed can be summarized:
1. Her and Nicki bullying Leigh Anne in the instagram live
2. Her performance at the jingle bell ball (are you ready) and lipsyncing at other performances after she went solo. I mean other singers have lipsynced too but when she was in Little Mix she would be singing live in all the performances, so it is a sort of regression.
Lmfaoooo the ‘(are you ready)’ 💀💀💀
Yeah might have to settle that first
@@Esandeech2 and the fact you could hear someone in the audience shout “no we’re not”
...and she brings nothing new to the table. the market is oversaturated with the generic-pop-girl-who-dances-with-big-hair-and-over-the-top-outfits formula.
well, that and the blackfishing.
but she has her millions. she's set for life, she'll be fine.
3. Pretending to be brown. That was the biggest thing
It was rushed. I think a huge part of it was because she wanted to separate herself from Little Mix, but that's not easy because she was a part of them with for 9 years and hadn't experimented during that time on top of cyber bullying and mental health issues. She really should've taken at least two years to heal and rediscover 1/4 of herself. And instead of coming out with a below medicore song, exploiting black men, culture, and blackfishing, debut with a vulnerable, maybe mid tempo song that shows a real R&B and Hip Hop side she said she loved.
Way too rushed imo. I know the girls didn’t like the feeling of her rushing off instead of wrapping things up properly and saying goodbye to her girls. Or very least a thank you? She didn’t get to where she was by herself 🤷🏾♂️
How she exploted black men?
@@TimoteoDeBaum I remember reading an article that said the girls were one of the few who encouraged her to leave after a severe panic attack on set. They had been with her through everything so it wasn't surprising that they supported her, but I think the true heartbreak was that live Jesy did with Nicki Minaj. She should've stopped Nicki from talking about Leigh-Anne like that and end the live on a positive note. It's really sad to see where she is now because this could've been avoided if she hadn't rushed.
@@akiraholland457 She exploited the stereotype that black men have (gold teeth, tattoos, hood love) that set them back for many things, on top of the blackfishing.
@@jessicaa.8471 Oh thanks
Sadly, she totally ruined her career by herself by being unapologetically ignorant. I’ve been a big fan of Little Mix for years so I will always have some kind of love for Jesy, despite everything, so I do wish her the best but it’s just disappointing to see how she handled all of this. This has to be the worst debut of all time for an ex girl band member 😭I just want to know who her PR manager is? I could do a better job than them! I can bet loads of money that one of the other three girls will end up having a much more successful career despite not being the first one to debut.
"Unapologetically ignorant." Love that!
When she initially left, I was very supportive of her because mental health is very important. But the whole thing that happened with Nicki Minaj and Leigh-Anne just change my opinion completely.
The whole situation hurts so much that I can’t even bop to little mix as much as I used to do because I liked their bond so much. Now anytime I put little mix on, the vibe is not just there.😔
Same! Especially when they talk about their friendship and sisterhood in old videos, now all I can think about is where it all went wrong. Their dynamic changed even in 2019 when she didn’t appear in any fun content they did on their channel
Bop to their new songs :) "No" is a good one
@@jhelisacarroll I think it happened even before 2019. All of it started in 2017, when the Glory Days era was around
Do you know about Leigh and Nohun? And their secrets chat?
@@xDarkWerewolfx what! Interesting, tell me more 👀
Can't say I'm surprised. She basically did everything you shouldn't do for a debut single roll out, and it still tanked.
Yeah, not surprised. As a founding member of Little Mix? I will love her and miss her. As a soloist? I'll pass Miss Nelson.
Honestly that does sum it up as a fan of ot4
Yessss!!! This really sums it up
Go back to little mix? I don't think she can lol. it seems like Jessi has been intentionally and unintentionally burning bridges as she goes & not learning anything from it. I don't think reuniting with the girls is an option anymore. (Wish it were though🙁)
After all that drama, LM probably won’t be on board with her coming back
@@VenusManTrap-777 I mean, they would be considering they are flopping without her. In 10 years or so, when they have one of those reunion tours, Jesy will 100% be asked to return.
@@tjsquibbofficial ur so delusional. saying little mix is flopping when jesy is nowhere to be seen, her solo wouldnt even make noise if she wasnt doing problematic things n if a huge us rapper wasnt featured in.
I honestly don't think she's got a voice for solo work. She has a very unique voice but because of it I don't think it works well not being accompanied by others
The shade
@@Gabriel-nw6lb I'm not even tryna be shady. As much as I don't like her I think she has a very nice voice I just don't think it suits not having something g to accompany it
@@toffiet3347 I don't really agree with that aspect of it. Her voice is nice to listen to even on it's own, it's other stuff holding her back.
Tbh I kinda saw this coming Boyz was a flop and then we got nothing just 2 live performances and then no new singles or no new album nothing
I would like to see a video about Missy Elliott & her career & impact on hip hop/rap. I would also like to see a video of Brandy & her career & her impact on r&b music & her Full Moon / Afrodisiac Era & why Brandy is an important figure in r&b
No way. "I promise there is nothing to worry about....."
But there was something to worry to about.
Jesy tried to pull of the “good girl gone bad” but it went tremendously bad. The weak single she dropped plus all the controversy just made her debut as a solo artist a disaster. I hope she changes for the better, and if she ever decides to make a comeback, I hope she takes notes from all of this of what NOT to do and make better choices.
She should have followed in Robbie Williams/Geri Halliwell's foot steps and kept her mouth shut about the other girls as she left and made sure her first solo stuff wasn't too different from what she made while being with the group to attract the original fans, while creating a new fanbase. She left messy, changed personality, and music style...way too much for a new start
@@2law2be She tried to hard to get rid of the “little mix” image and in short amount of time, that’s why she changed completely. Big mistake, cause she pulled it wrongly
It’s just her attitude was so off putting and how ignorant he was being and to just over look how her band mates were also feeling
Jesy needs to deal with her demons and stop projecting them on everybody else. She could've been great but now she's a lesson for others to learn from.
JUST A LIL BOY WITH NO RECIPE-
Damn it's a bit sad, I hope she can reflect on herself, on her actions and words. She has such a beautiful voice. Hopefully she will be able to find herself :/
Nicki also had a part in ruining Jesy's career. Yes, she collabed with her but the IG live made Jesy's issue even worse.
I gave this woman a pass so many times. I had nothing but love and support when she left. If she could have kept her mouth shut publicly like the other girls and not name dropped them in her debut (like wtf) I would have wished her well and moved on. But all she wanted to discuss was how much she hated being in little mix and hated all the music she’d ever made.
I don’t wish her any ill will, but I just don’t care anymore. And apparently no one else does either. Coulda been a great solo artist. Too bad.
It's hilarious how she kept saying she wanted to take a more R & B route but her debut was pop. Having Nicki rap on it didn't change the genre. It's another generic pop song.
i think jesy’s solo plans were widely centered on really trying to lean into the hiphop/rnb “aesthetic” that so many non-black artists used to employ in years past, who would later go on to drop that image once they were more secure in their success. even when done well, that trajectory isn’t as easy to pull off now as it was in the early 2000s, and jesy definitely didn’t do it well.
I wish her the best but she really didn’t want to address her problematic behaviour and eventually her time in the spotlight with LM got outshined by her refusal to listen to criticism and grow from it
It's crazy because Jesy was a very likeable person! Specially when she shared about her issues with mental health and all the cyber bullying she has faced since X Factor... but she threw it all away. If she continued being nice even if the song was bad she would have more people on her side. 🤷🏾♀️
Right? Am I right as a white woman to imagine that if not for the black fishing and her laughing as Nikki Minaj insulted Leigh Anne that more people would view this as a clumsy debut rather than a complete flop?
@@DM-it1qf exacly! Artists need to focus on their image and reputation. It's more beneficial to be seen as charismatic by the public than hated.
I subscribed as soon as you mentioned how jesy said this is the Music she always wanted to make apart from little mix and the fact that this sound just like a fuckin little mix song just with her singing it. I knew at that point you speaking my language!
Which is why I feel like Jesy rushed into things after leaving Little Mix. She weren't ready.
To be honest , the song was okay not bad, it just wasn’t a great song to put as a single . Its weird how she just released one song and it’s about to become a year since she released it and hasn’t even released anything. I feel like she if little mix came back in the future, I feel like she should join back because I’m starting to have little hope that her career won’t make it far … but I wish her the best !!
The whole debut was a mess from the start, not only did she sample bad boys for life by Diddy but the video was a straight up copy cat and the lyrics were that childish it was painful to listen to plus it exposed her for not being that great vocally compared to the other girls.
Then there's the video of her laughing when Nicki Minaj was shading Leeanne which lost her fans then the jingle ball performance which was woeful and her cocky attitude didn't help.
I hate to say it serves her right but it really does and I hope she has time to reflect on her behaviour and hopefully do something that is her rather than this.
That song was horrible, from the fake voice she puts on, to cringe lines like “we got that hood love”. Im struggling to find anything redeeming about this song, its just so awful
@@_Sasha1931 I mean Song and Video were interpolates Bad Boys For Life by Diddy and he approved it , so I kinda considered the more of a Remix song . yeah I have to agree that song’s lyrics , sound like a 11 year old wrote a song about be cool or bad . But all we can do is wish her luck
@@bperez003 Okay , I mean at Least it isn’t Oli London or Malu Trejo
@@Thisaccountisrip I actually cringed at the lyrics and the copycat video and can't understand for the life of me why her label thought this was a good idea.
I can only think that Jesy surrounded herself with yes people because if I was her label boss of her manager I'd have said no Jesy this is a terrible idea and the worst one I've heard.
some people are just not meant to be solo acts and she's the perfect example of it
Probably would’ve been fine if she stayed within her culture. She would’ve thrived in privilege.
Culture? Culture is suppose to be shared and telling someone they can do certain music just because they are a certain race is ✨racist✨
Just like there's people who don't lioe to see black people doing country or rock.
If anything what failed was that she kept pretending to be brown.
That’s the thing tho sooo many people didn’t know she white to begin with since she tried so hard to make herself ethnically ambiguous 😂. I also don’t think she would have hit it off as well within her culture, because they’re super into Taylor, Olivia, Billie, and Ariana rn, and all of them either embrace their whiteness or have a big enough fanbase to drown out the blackfish/appropriation issues
@@LP-ct9nk bruh she literally claimed she was white
@@LP-ct9nk
You probably don’t mean them, but when did Billie, Olivia, or Taylor appropriate? If you mean Billie’s baggy clothes it was because she was a minor at the time
How conformist of you! An example of woke people being hypocritical. Also this outrage for "cultural appropiation" is the same as "if I'm not happy you don't deserve to be happy either". So progressive!
The most surprising part is that polydor let her walk away instead of shelving her like other musicians, and not letting her go until a prolonged years long contract batttle.
That means they KNEW she wasn’t gonna make them money
I hope she’s okay. I am super worried about how she’s taking this
This reminded me about The Pussycat Dolls situation. Nicole was trying to do solo but it never went anywhere except in the U.K…hopefully “redemption” and making a better music maybe Jesy can come back stronger
she should of never left little mix
Shoulda coulda but did lol
Jessie so reminds me of my daughter's bratz dolls, I can't believe she was Bullied for her looks, I honestly think she's beautiful.
It’s sad because vocally she was one of my favorites from the band. But I don’t like the direction she is wanting to go. I hope she takes some time and figures it out.
The label wasn't the right one for her, in the sense that they gave her the freedom to do whatever she wanted, and she wasn't ready for that. _If she wanted to be like a big pop star,_ she needed so much direction and structure to bloom into something new (but she was tired of control in LM too); _if she wanted total freedom_ to find herself and express herself, then she shouldn't have gone to a big label, because in most cases, that's not the place to do that (maybe, what she needs and wants are not on the same page?). So it's bad that she lost such a big opportunity, but it's good because maybe now she can focus on herself more.
IMO, she doesn't even know who she is as an artist (something very common for people who were in GGs/BBs like her). She's a great dancer and singer, yes, but it's been a while since she's always messy with her words, actions, and decisions. Contradictory on the worst occasions and it's unfortunate because that just damages her image more and more. The life of a pop star ain't always easy, but I feel like she doesn't want to pay even the slightest for it(which is valid, but then again, it has its own consequences that she doesn't seem ready or willing to pay as well).
I think she really has to take some time for her: to rest, think, mature, and heal. If she continues with this path, maybe she´ll damage her career forever. She already hurt a significant part of her fandom because of what happened with Nikki, and yeah, maybe she'll be forgotten if she doesn't get enough exposure, but what could be worst than continuing this train of decisions of hers?
She's rich, she can heal slowly and take her time; melancholy from fans could help her more than the loss/ rejection/ sadness/ tedium/ disappointment that many fans or pg feel towards her. Her quick debut after talking about her struggles with her mental health (which was why she left the group) was something that left many of us thinking too.
Jesy Nelson Is A Beautiful Black Jamaican Queen 👑 🇯🇲
I hope she had a better life/career in the future and wish all the best for her👍🏼
It makes me a little sad to see such a talent fall this hard, but I hope she learns from this. I think both Jesy and Little Mix lost something when Jesy left the group. The four of them together were definitely far greater than the sum of their parts and, despite all of their talent, Little Mix does not have the same spark they had when they were a quartet. I sincerely hope they can resolve and grow past their differences, and then reunite to be better than they have ever been. If that can't happen, then I hope they can at least part ways without any bitterness and go in exciting (and successful) new directions with their music.
Polydor? Leaving a girl group first? Already having a fan base?
This girl literally had all the chances and still screwed up. How sad…
Jesy's controversy definitely overshadowed her song. Even if the song was amazing, it really wouldn't matter because she handled the controversy so poorly. She was actually really smart to have Nicki Minaj collab with her to bring in new people to her fanbase, but as you said in a previous video, majority of her fanbase were Little Mix fans, and she alienated them by bullying Leigh-Anne. If/when Little Mix reunite, I don't think Jesy would be welcomed back by the group or the fans.
I think Jesy Nelson will become a reality TV personality like big brother type of deal 😂
I agree. One mediocre song and then 10 months of silence won't work. She should have released another single in early 2022. Maybe a different direction but releasing nothing was a stupid move.
But she was in the studio so it makes me think that Boyz was the best of the songs she recorded, which is tragic.
I also think she didn't find her style.
Honestly speaking she was never a songwriter and wrote the least out of the 4 girls.
But she had producers like will I am so I do wonder why they weren't capable of giving her a decent debut single instead of this PDiddy Sample.
Also Nicki Minaj kinda damaged Jesy more than helping her lol
If Little Mix returns, I doubt they want to work with her again (I don't know if they will return because Bands always promise it (One direction etc.) And then don't comeback).
I don't see Jesy with a big label anytime soon because I doubt anyone wants to work with her.
All the bad media + lack of artistic vision aren't really appealing and I wouldn't invest money in her after that Boyz flop.
I see her on reality t.v. in a couple for years tbh
She was supposedly gonna release her ballad Heartbreak Hotel in January, which she didn't do which confused me.
Damn that was quick
When you wanna be big and bad and burn bridges and throw shade etc you better MAKE SURE you’re gonna make it baby!!! I do not feel bad for this lady 🤷🏾♂️ prayers tho 🙏🏾
what’s kinda funny is how avoidable her downfall was. if she had just defended leigh anne from nicki minaj, apologized for cultural appropriation, and got on good terms with her former members, she probably would have been fine. at least little mix fans would’ve streamed her music and stuff. she kinda ruined herself and her own career.
Hopefully she stay strong mentally and physically. Nothing but best wishes for her!
the song was cute just wasn’t good enough for a debut single.. the drama killed her career and just wasn’t it
Honestly I’ve supported Little Mix for some years & can say I’m one of the lucky US fans that got to see them live during the Dangerous Woman tour & honestly I was genuinely routing for her until the shady fall out & well now look at how it all ended I hope it was worth it Jesy. Honestly wish her the best tho, coming from a long time supporter you can’t just leave a 10yr+ group & be shady like that specially when they’ve supported you openly on your traumas & down play them like that, it made her seem a bit fake unfortunately. I understand it’s between the girls at the end of the day but don’t forget the fans can see things too specially once it’s public.
If only Jesy left, had a rest instead of instantly going solo after saying she was so depressed, still had an amazing relationship with her amazing sisters.... I would still follow and love her :(
Good as they shouLD 👏🏾‼️
On the real tho this has been one of the more interesting pop career trainwrecks I’ve seen in a hot minute. It reminds me of Iggy’s implosion, but faster (and it’s no coincidence they both suffered from blackfishing backlash and perceived lack of authenticity and talent).
You can totally tell she didn’t see it coming either seeing as how a couple weeks ago she was doing damage control statements when news of her label shelving her first leaked. The delusion she has is amazing.
Also if I was a new pop girly I’d be denying a nicki feature with my whole life. Not only does she have her baggage (that husband of hers esp rn), but she has shown time and time again she will use you and then drop you when convenient leaving you to clean up messes she makes
I hope she finds a way to shine again because her voice is so unique we can't loose her
Nah we can. Her voice sounds like a lot of singers
A unique voice alone isn't enough. Especially when you release crappy music.
@@charlottexroyalty7819 i agree but i'm hoping she makes a good come back
@@Miscellaneous_master i don't think so i never heard a voice like hers tbh
Damn this makes me sad
I really was rooting for her it makes me sad to see her sacked
I grew up with this woman and seeing her go from hero to zero breaks my heart
I was hoping she could bounce back with her next single and eventual album
I semi expected this due to her fuck ups and the controversies and bandwagoning
But to see it happen is just crazy
Hopefully this is one of the many setbacks she can overcome
ikr. everyone is praying on everyone's downfall all the time, it is kinda sad. this Twitter mentality is toxic
No one was praying on anyones dowmfall. We just all have brains and saw that jesy’s inflated ego and repeated choices she made purposefully (after tons of correction and advice) would hit reality and consequences soon. She’s not the first and won’t be the last
I hope she can learn from this and bounce back too. We shouldn't like seeing women fail or be bullied for it.
@@LP-ct9nk nah people definitely are lol. I am not talking just about Jesy - it seems like people are more enthusiastic about others' lives being destroyed and them flopping than actually trying to teach them about their mistakes. That's our culture tho deny it all you want
@@mandyleepie12 exactly. not saying that what she did is right, but it seems like people are really enjoying watching her fail and her career being destroyed, it is petty as hell.
Jesy reminds me of Liam Payne and what he did with his career after 1D
Jesy is talented and I believe she can release really good music. Her next single has to be a solo single that showcases her vocals. No twerking and pum pum shorts, no features, no unnecessary samples and random cameos. I just want it to be her
I think this is the music she wants to make. :(
pump pump shorts
I think the problem with Boyz is that she was trying too hard. Trying to replicate 90s/2000s MVs + featuring another artist who's bigger than her + cameo by the artist she sampled... it screams overcompensation and insecurity.
She was trying to start a solo career, her first single should be about her and only her, not this circus and that over the top performance at the Jingle Bell Ball.
The record label was probably looking for a more “pop” sound for her. There’s no problem for her wanting to do RnB but it’s the way she came about it to change her whole appearance to look/act “blk/gangsta” and the song was tragic because your 1st solo song shouldn’t be a remake of someone else’s song no matter if their song was a hit or not. Then we found out that Little Mix warned her about black fishing before she quit to which she brushed off. Then there was the whole sticking her tongue out which sweetie no one like it when Miley did it. Last but certainly not least she laughed when Nicki Minaj went on a rant about her former friend/bandmate which had nothing to do with her, very disrespectful and shady. All of that just about wrapped up her career.
She tried to say the black card but didn't work out too well and even had Nicki feat on her song damn
Yet Nicki tried to say Leigh-Anne was jealous 🙄
@@ShelbieMua ikr sad going against her own people sometimes Nicki just say too much
@@ShelbieMua i mean what do you expect from nicki who married a rapist
is a shame. she deserves credit . I love little mix . jesy should never give up . keep on keeping on
This Jesy Nelson situation proves that not everyone is meant to go Solo. The debut was a disaster and the Nicki Minaj Little Mix thing didn't help her at all.
Some video extracts of her dancing and singing live in that red outfit and the long silver wig reaaally reminded me of CL's style... hard to reach the level of an already established queen :'D
She alienated her fans with that attitude towards the group that made her... and her fans/little mix fans are the ones that would have supported her... smh
She can't get back into little mix. They said they haven't been talking since she left the group and I feel like if she told them that she wanted to do solo music, they would have wished her the best and let her do it. All of them will go solo for a while now and then get back together. But without jesy
She thought she was gonna be the Beyonce or Harry styles of the group when she left. This is a clear example of karma coming back to haunt her and I feel embarrassed for her. Like I hope mentally she's ok but you can't bully people, black fish, not apologize to Leigh Anne, make terrible music and think you're gonna succeed. As I said before she has talent but she was easily the weakest vocalist of little mix and I knew in my heart she would flop even before the drama came out. I wasn't expecting the label to drop her though. Hope she now knows Little mix was where she belonged and where she became apart of a lengdary group. I honestly have hope for jade Leigh Anne and perrie solo especially Leigh Anne who I think is the best overall vocalist of the group and versitile. I think she will be the one to become popular in America. I am hoping all 3 taste success and don't flop.
I'm honestly done with your delusion. You think Leigh-Anne is the strongest at EVERYTHING. It's so cringey seeing you suck up to someone so much. Leigh is talented but she isn't the strongest vocally or dance wise in LM, and never will be. She's improved a lot, yes but she'll never be on the same level as the other girls.
@@tjsquibbofficial oh no the racist is back 🙄
@@AlwaysLM2011 No, I'm just unbiased. Literally ANY Vocal Coach or vocal analysis video puts Leigh-Anne as 3rd place out of the 4 girls. It's not illegal to put a White Singer above a Black Singer. Race doesn't matter.
@@tjsquibbofficial stop liking your own comments it's desperate lol. I don't have time for your repetitive racist @ss again. Move on.
@@tjsquibbofficial unbiased is not in your vocabulary. Crazy Jesy Stan is as well as r@cist
I think she walked away. If she was dropped better than be stuck like so many other artist people rave about. How many artists have record deals but cannot release anything. Jesy is free but those who are embittered and desperate for her to fail will not see it like that.
you’re giving us so much content wow
I'm just so happy that the three other members of LM are yet to drop their own singles plus they've all learnt one or two from Jesy's mistakes. I wish the three girls, especially my absolute sunshine Leighanne a massive success. 💚💚🌟💐
Poor girl spent her late teens and whole adult life being attacked for no reason in Little Mix. Less would give anyone a distorted identity. She has no idea who she really is. Maybe this will give her a chance to step back and work on that. Then she can put that in her music and come back swinging.
Personally, I would have liked to hear a more jazz or neo soul influenced album, with lyrics written in collaboration with a good songwriter. Something less pop and that didn't focus on dance but vocal performance. But, that's obviously just my preference and not what she wanted.
I spent a lot of this video thinking I was looking at pictures of present day Lil Kim.
I swear Little Mix are cursed. They’ve had so many unfortunate things happen to them.
They are the most successful girl group of the 2010s and now the most streamed girl group of all time. The only things they've hinted that were regretted is being tied to Simon Cowell and not being to given a fair chance to make it in America. When they got a new record deal they were finally given the chance but then Covid hit. Honestly they seemed happier with Jesy and had some of their best performances without her.
She should have stuck with the other ladies and finished her dayz with Little Mix and then released her solo. She was there for confetti album anyway so she should have waited did the tour picked up the Brit for best group and parted ways amicably with the Ladies. It doesn’t always work out the same way that it did for Robbie (Take That) & Geri (Spice Girls).
Yes she dhpuld have left amicably after confetti and no one would have a problem with her
I don't see her returning to LM she ruined that friendship and she has to live with that.
Jesse Nelson just need to take her time with her music and make sure the performances are amazing like she did with little mix she doesn't need to try so hard be yourself stop being something that you're not love yourself
I know we may not know everything that goes on behind closed doors but from a public point of view it seems like the girls stuck by her, appeared in her documentary, and have been supportive of her. I think it's disgusting how shes treated them all- I know mental health is important and if she did leave the group for that reason then fair enough but she left to be a solo star (let's be honset) as she thought she would be popular enough after her documentary. It's just such an shame she couldnt of waited a bit more so all the girls could shared 10 yrs of Little Mix together-tbh I think Jesy has been incredibly selfish-if it really was for her mental health then wouldnt she of gone away for a few yrs then came back ? I think it was less than a yr and she tried putting out her solo work 🙄. I would love to know what really happened but we'll probs never know.
Her biggest mistake is leaving Little Mix on bad terms and starting anew with a bad team! She could have been big if she just laid low after the last LM album and didn't throw shade at the girls at the beginning of her solo career. She and her team ruined her.
I don't think that LM would ever take her back into the group should she want to return. Jesy burned quite a few bridges on her way out & went about her exit the wrong way, at the wrong time, for the wrong reasons. I don't believe the "mental health" stuff... She was in the studio within days following the public announcement of her departure. It wasn't mental health or the pressures of celebrity. And it wasn't the "type of music" excuse either, her one & only single is right in line with the type of music LM was doing more & more of.
Lm looks like a group where you ca write your kind of nusic abd tgey will include it into the album
The similarities to 5H are surprising to me. Camilla being the first out and also having kind of a failed debut with crying in the club (which is a banger imo), plus the group doing good without her just like little mix without Jesy
I feel like people were mad at her as well is because she said the reason she was leaving Little Mix was due to bullying of the media and mental health. And by her tone and words she made it sound like she was done with the music industry as a whole. But then when she said she is coming out with a solo career everyone was confused because if your leaving a group because the media and fans are bullying you, why would you go solo and put more attention on yourself to get bullied more? I just feel like Jessie left Little Mix to go solo but didn’t want to tell the fans or media that and lied and got caught in it.
Not gonna lie the first thing I thought about was how quickly she was able to get out of a legal contract. Usually that stuff takes a long time before everything is finalized
you can always start from scratch, even if her debut was bad, everyone knows her, she is pretty and sexy, she has a good voice, so I don’t think that her career is over. 😉
I hope she finds a new adventure and new career. I still have hope in her.🙏🏾
please make a video about the Kim Petras situation
She's done. Sad because she was my favourite girl in LM but she has burned too many bridges. She's almost a completely different person now compared to when she first started out.
The clips of the video playing is giving me major secondhand embarrassment. She really thought blackfishing and snatching up (played out) stereotypes about black men for her video was the way to go?? Super yikes!
I don’t think little mix would let her back tho, like tell me you haven’t listened to ‘cut you off’ from Between Us without actually telling me 🤨