That boy needs to stop upsetting his mother. Since watching the Otalia clips have come to the realisation that most of Natalia's stress has been caused by her son. All he's doing at the moment is proving to everyone how immature he really is. He should want his mother to be happy
TILL THIS DAY I DON'T UNDERSTAND RAFE. WHEN HE SAID OLIVIA STOLE GUS'S HEART.. ! HOW DID OLIVIA STEAL GUS'S, WHEN NATALIA WAS THE ONE THAT DECIDED TO GIVE IT TO OLIVIA.
I'm presuming that the picture Nat is looking at is one of Liv, the one she took when Henry was being Christened - the one where she says Liv looked beautiful. I'm just presuming because the GL budget obviously didn't stretch far enough to get an actual picture, one we could have seen.
that's the funniest damn thing I have ever heard--i screamed laughing! Tears are streaming! The only thing that could tickle me more is if Liv had slapped rafe (in his little pedal-pusher pants) right off the bridge into the river!
400 comments with only less the 4000 views..understandable..difficult stuff....so..let me just mention I missed when first viewed - Blake pretending to hear the baby news at 7:19..."Oh..a baby...that's just wonderful! Then she sits next to Natalia and holds her hand to give her support. I liked that. She is a friend and will probably give Nat back her job that she barely started.
Wanted to shout at screen today! Natalia stand up to rafe! Wanted her to say "Yes this is me and you will have to get use to it!!!" And she should have said to marina they isnt goning to be a wedding!!! Wanted to punch rafe when he said "Playmate" to Natalia and again when he told Olivia "your done!" Rafe "get your head out of your ass!!!" come on Natalia step up, you can do it!!!!!!!! xxx
Ever since Grey's started playing The Rescues in their episodes I've been hooked. GL used this song perfectly. That's my positive for the day. Sorry all, this storyline STILL has me hooked...What can I say...
There was some comical moments in todays episode.. Olivia: Help me forget that I'm in love w/Natalia Josh:I'm sorry what did you just say? Olivia:Didn't I mention that? Josh:One crazed woman in my life is enough Olivia:But you would be in the middle of a female love triangle. Olivia:Do you want to marry her Frank? Frank:She left me, remember that? Olivia:She left me, so what? Rafe:I didn't turn out so bad. Frank:How about a little (baby)congratulations over here? Buzz:You?
Hmm, I think, Monday's and Tuesday's eps were the "Arias of Nats return".And Dude, did I have high expectations, and was completely blown away.Stuttering mess. I think Wednesday's ep was more of a rezitativ, moving the plot along, setting up the stage for the next scenes. JL said in an interview, that Natalia was only hit full force with the realization of the difficulties ahead, when she talked to Rafe. So, I'm very excited to see how this goes in the next days.
favauntie, we are sooooo on the same page---I agree with every word. GL has made a mockery of the characters and the storyline. I passed disgusted a long time ago. *love the "Moonstruck" quote*
I have to join in right about here, to say hello ladies. I'm buying Erikatica, let me set you up. Like Erikatica said, it is great to see you all back here again. WOO HOO
Man if I was Nat, I would cut Rafe off for disrespecting Liv, whether they're in a relationship or not. He's doesn't have to approve, he doesn't even have to understand, but he does need to be a man, and stop being disrespectful.
lol at Blake feigning surprise, lol. And lol at Frank saying they'll get married and his family asking about a wedding when most of the kids on soap operas don't even know their "real" parents until they are usually grown. Slow it down let the kid get kidnapped a couple of times before it finds out who his real mother and father are lol
I thought Rage's outburst that Liv stole Gus's heart was because he still partially blamed her for Gus's death (what with him driving erratically getting her a new heart from the 5 & dime). I also thought it was because he saw Liv as now stealing his mother from him as well. This made me think that his "you're going to be alone" speech was actually him subconciously expressing his fear of being alone when Nat stops wiping his arse. But then I realised that Rage is just not that deep!
You could see in the gazebo confrontation yesterday that Olivia kept putting physical distance between her and Nat co she knew that she would cave if Nat touched her (she almost did before Jellybean came over). Now Olivia is using Frank as a physical obstruction to increase that distance. Its not about love, that's undeniable between the two, but its about Liv protecting herself from further hurt. She doesn't trust Nat not to change her mind again; given the whole WoD, you can't blame her.
Olivia scoffing at "good guy" made me giggle. Her not slapping Frank for saying the 'family that's wrong' not so much. Olivia only wears her badass shades when she wants to be badass & hide the fact that she's been crying. She's issuing a challenge to Natalia: Dare you to love me, push Frank & Creepy Cooper Clan away & show me how you could love me. I'm pretty sure she's hoping for a repeat outcome of the wedding cos Natalia will keep choosing Olivia every single time.
Its presumptive to say that Nat would have married Frank at the WoD. She said in the GoL that she couldn't lie to her God that she loved Frank when she didn't. She already knew that Liv was in love with her (again see GoL scene); all Liv's confession did was inspire her to articulate her own feelings. That's not my point anyway. Nat's decison-making is historically erratic,(e.g) gets scared after kiss with Liv, sleeps with Frank. Liv's like, what if she 180's again? Hence more trust issues..
I loved how when Rafe tried to tell her how he thinks it is she basically shoo'd him away like the CHILD he is... so immature he really annoys me but they better make this right or else!!!
I actually kinda of like Frank in this episode. He's hurt, he's confused about the baby, of course he wants to marry Natalia and have a family together, but unlike Rage, he's beginning to take Olivia's feelings into account and consider how she feels about all of this. He acknowledges she's in love with Natalia and Natalia vise-versa and isn't willing to let her completely disregard her feelings.
i am loving this part of the story. yes.natalia and olivia seem to be falling back into their pre wedding of doom patterns however,everything is out in the open between the two.olivia told natalia she broke her. yes natalia looked like a deer caught in headlights like the graveyard scene.i think it will take someone like doris or josh to get natalia in line. olivia has to back off because natalia did the damage and she needs to fix it. as for rafe,olivia should have knocked his ass in the creek.
I can't believe Liv is giving up, this better not be the end of Otalia. I know Nat left without explanation but she is back and saying it isn't over come on!!!
I gotta say I'm the most annoyed with the way Natalia is behaving in all this. It's like she's got Asperger's or something, just oblivious emotionally to how she's effecting the people around her, especially Olivia. She's just blithely going around spreading the "good news" and then mildly disappointed & surprised that everyone isn't falling into line with her plans. I don't know if it's JL, the writers or the direction but it just doesn't make sense for her character.
with the way i see that, Frank is going to bring Otalia together, he will see that Natalia and Olivia are madly in love with each other and there is nothing he can do about it, he will see that there is no chance for him so he will push them together. Well i hope sooner the better, we all know they will end up together but not one week before the end....please!!!!!!!!!!
"And I didn't turn out so bad Ma!" Hello, boy you need to check yourself. You did time in Juvie, and a Men's Prison for shooting the DA, who just so happens to be the Father of Olivia's Daughter Ava. Because of what you did, you can't vote, be a Cop, get a Govt Job, and for the rest of your life you pay the price for what you did. Also, face facts Rafe, your mother doesn't love Frank she loves Olivia and having a Baby doesn't make her straight. Olivia should have thrown him over the cliff.
Im soo glad natalia is telling olivia and everyone what she wants, now olivia is running damn when will it end! and why isn't the doors locked on the FoL nows not the time for furtz to come in thats suppose to be olivia im so at odds with rafe its crazy how hes acting and the drinking lol.
Yes, he did---can you believe it?!? I nominate that as the funniest ( albeit unintentionally funniest ) line I've heard in this joke of a s/l. I can't believe he was able to say it with a straight face.
well gypseymoth, there is something wrong with it when it's a GODDAMN LIE!!! The last thing she wants is a life without Dimples. If she really wanted to or was really ready to "move on with her life" she would have screwed Josh.
club, girlfriend, you KNOW that this is not my usual MO. I have road shotgun with Dimples through all the negative shit thrown at her on these boards for weeks and weeks----so you have to know how hard this was for me, and how truly pushed to the limit I must be today. But sometimes you can't co-sign, no matter how much you love someone. and the truth is just the truth.
Disneyland after dark???? This is getting as funny as Monty Python and that was hilarious. These 2 women need 2 get their act together and Rafey boy needs a brainscan. Oh yeah Frank needs a hairstylist.
Im sorry but i hate that everyone is telling Natalia how she should live and love here life. Her and Olivia are great parents and are right for each other!!!
I would be offended, but my Girl Scout leader always praised me for my firewood gathering skills. I assume we are torching the Gazebo right, because what they have done is downright evil. So count me in, Seeing the SEDUCTION MACGYVER at work is too irresistible to not participate in this. KATE- - - I want in, I want in, I want in. hand waving in the air. Samkarfran hilarious, what a wit, sorry I missed the moment, but so glad I dropped by.
I'm not the biggest fan of Rafe, but I do understand somewhat of where he was coming from his mother is a devoted Catholic woman all his life, she was a holy in his eyes, she was with a man he really look up to. So that was where his life really started because before then his life wasn't great in his version of thing. So he finally get that happy end that he dream of when he was a younger child. Then it all fall apart because of one person she is the villain in his world. Olivia Try to take everything from them since the beginning. So nothing change she is taking his happiness away.
ok, I have to comment on Natalia, the character. I think she could have done the same lame jobb as pregnant and "confident" in her decision without going away to "pray" and "think". I am not talking about Jessica's work as acctress, she very good at it. But I thought, if you have been away and really thought about things and what you want, you should be more confident. Since she left Oliviva without a word, she should have thought : what if.. Olivia is mad at me and doesn't want me back?...
No, no I think the OP was saying the Otalia storyline wouldn't have worked dramatically without Frank as an obstacle, and what he/she wants to see is Olivia and Natalia happily together at the end. Am I wrong? I think there was a miscommunication.
O God it's true, I thought I dreamt it, or was seeing doubles idk wtf? Writers, I waited "forever" for Nat to come back so I could finally see some Otalia Loving.Nat is back, and Liv is giving Josh?! all the sweet kisses? I get Liv is scarred and fears taking Nat back. And thanks to one of "your" bright ideas,if Liv does take Nat back, she's starting a relationship with Frank's seeds inside her woman. But to have Liv hook up Frank and Nat "again" with one month left, is lazy and unforgivable!
totally agreed with you...My God...why all this story?Now Olivia ask Frank to fight for Natalia...no...no way folks...I can't stand it...that's too much...there's no peace for these two!And Rafe...my God, the most selfish guy in the world...I just can't stand him...
And then Rafe made it all about himself. Surprise surprise. He can reduce anything to his egocentric point of view. Without realizing that there is so much more love in the universe. And that's all Natalia wants. And yes - he didn't turn out so bad juvie, prison he is so irritating. But it advances the plot... that Natalia was able to overcome the outright hostility from both her priests and her son demonstrated the depth of her love and her courage in the face of such forces.
I see Frank as Penelope Pitstop, all pink and girley when he is standing next to the railroad tracks. Olivia who has been stripped of all character, because we all know she has a secret identity as Dick Dasterdly, has lured him there to tie him up and lay him across the railroad tracks. Honestly, the Olivia that I know is capable of this. Penelope (Fr.) is yelling HAY ULP, HAY ULP. Rafe and father Ray are the Slag brothers. The cavemen driving the rock with wheels.
LMAO jonsey!!! I think our girls have so much accumulated sexual frustration that it has melted both their brains...Nat became a zombie and Liv is pimping out her gf to Goob. they could at least have made that mafia gf swapping scene fun since they were on the train tracks and do it at night with a blinking lampost and some fog. liv in a trenchcoat and the Goob with an eye patch and a hat. This is REDUNCULOUS!! (ridiculous and redundant)..
Yeah,he didn't turn out so bad. Except he shot Jeffrey,got Daisy pregnant and went on the run. He also served time. Now he didn't turn so bad. Yeah right.
flat? she was downright zombie today! I think the entire episode was completely ridiculous (don't even get me started on the reva bit which even scared me it was so creepy) but it's like Otalia on the worse day of the L Word. Next thing we know Natalia will be taking to manatees and having carnival dream sequences. WTF is this? Have Ilene Chaiken n David Lynch taken over? Theyre making even me, the number 1 Dimples lover, want to smack the spine back into her!! PAs, please pass the tequila!
can i say olivia was kick ass in those shades,lol...and was gangsta on the bridge..and i think frank isn't going to play this game...if he's a good man , he'll do what josh did..not get in the middle of this drama
Tonight when I got home from work I sat down in front of my computer....I got that same feeling I get when I am driving on the freeway and I come upon a horrible accident....I say "dont look, dont look!"....then I look and I am haunted the rest of the day! No wonder they didnt want to "label" this story...so they could fucking trash it and not say it was a gay thing! The thing I have learned from this dissapointing experience is, a "label" aint that bad!
What's up with Blake? She acted surprised to hear Nat's news about being pregnant--wasn't she the one that helped Nat get outta dodge in the first place?
she's tired of fighting. and afraid that she could be hurt again. so, now is her time to ran, when is life difficult. don't we do that all, sometime. :)
in this drama called gl... there are no full writers there; only interns from the culinary institute!!!! REMEMEBER THE PORTIONS ON EVERY SHOT IN TOWERS.. monster sizes!
I like how Rafe is always smiling when he is talking to Olivia even when he is telling her off, like on the bridge and at the ballpark a few episodes back. They must be really close offset because she makes him laugh or grin everytime.
The only difference between this wedding story and the other wedding story, is this one is going to take place in better weather. God, I hate the writers.
My only defense of Rafe--selfish boy that he is,is that he was in prison during the blossoming of otalia love and as such he did'nt get to see how happy Olivia has made his mother . Also,he has'nt seen how much loving Natalia has changed Olivia for the better. Maybe if he had been present over the past year he might not have felt so shocked. Anyway,as we know ,from the past,Natalia is quietly persistent. Nothing-not Rafe-not anyone--not even the goddess herself, will keep her from her soul mate.
That boy needs to stop upsetting his mother. Since watching the Otalia clips have
come to the realisation that most of Natalia's stress has been caused by her son.
All he's doing at the moment is proving to everyone how immature he really is. He
should want his mother to be happy
Grr Rafe.
He doesn't know her at all.
And he clearly doesn't care about her happiness at all.
i love how folks meet up at railroad tracks/bridges and rivers.
Did anyone else laugh when Rafe said he didnt turn out so bad. apparently the boy has amnesia
YOU are so right I was laught about those moments...especially when Rafe said I didn't turn out so bad...We all know how shitty he's been..LOL!
TILL THIS DAY I DON'T UNDERSTAND RAFE. WHEN HE SAID OLIVIA STOLE GUS'S HEART.. !
HOW DID OLIVIA STEAL GUS'S, WHEN NATALIA WAS THE ONE THAT DECIDED TO GIVE IT TO OLIVIA.
LOVE REWATCHING THESE VIDEOS...THANK YOU
I'm presuming that the picture Nat is looking at is one of Liv, the one she took when Henry was being Christened - the one where she says Liv looked beautiful.
I'm just presuming because the GL budget obviously didn't stretch far enough to get an actual picture, one we could have seen.
that's the funniest damn thing I have ever heard--i screamed laughing! Tears are streaming! The only thing that could tickle me more is if Liv had slapped rafe (in his little pedal-pusher pants) right off the bridge into the river!
It's called 'Lay It On Me' by The Rescues.
400 comments with only less the 4000 views..understandable..difficult stuff....so..let me just mention I missed when first viewed - Blake pretending to hear the baby news at 7:19..."Oh..a baby...that's just wonderful! Then she sits next to Natalia and holds her hand to give her support. I liked that. She is a friend and will probably give Nat back her job that she barely started.
Wanted to shout at screen today!
Natalia stand up to rafe! Wanted her to say "Yes this is me and you will have to get use to it!!!" And she should have said to marina they isnt goning to be a wedding!!! Wanted to punch rafe when he said "Playmate" to Natalia and again when he told Olivia "your done!"
Rafe "get your head out of your ass!!!"
come on Natalia step up, you can do it!!!!!!!!
xxx
Natalia is looking at Rafe as if to say "Is this what I raised? Where did I go wrong?" I think she's done trying to make him understand.
Hey thanks, I thought it might have been one of Olivia but couldn't remember ever seeing her having one.
Ever since Grey's started playing The Rescues in their episodes I've been hooked. GL used this song perfectly. That's my positive for the day. Sorry all, this storyline STILL has me hooked...What can I say...
Yes, Rafe, Olivia really did steal Gus' heart. The mystery is solved! & this is an example of why I really don't like him.
There was some comical moments in todays episode..
Olivia: Help me forget that I'm in love w/Natalia
Josh:I'm sorry what did you just say?
Olivia:Didn't I mention that?
Josh:One crazed woman in my life is enough
Olivia:But you would be in the middle of a female love triangle.
Olivia:Do you want to marry her Frank?
Frank:She left me, remember that?
Olivia:She left me, so what?
Rafe:I didn't turn out so bad.
Frank:How about a little (baby)congratulations over here?
Buzz:You?
Hmm, I think, Monday's and Tuesday's eps were the "Arias of Nats return".And Dude, did I have high expectations, and was completely blown away.Stuttering mess.
I think Wednesday's ep was more of a rezitativ, moving the plot along, setting up the stage for the next scenes.
JL said in an interview, that Natalia was only hit full force with the realization of the difficulties ahead, when she talked to Rafe.
So, I'm very excited to see how this goes in the next days.
favauntie, we are sooooo on the same page---I agree with every word. GL has made a mockery of the characters and the storyline. I passed disgusted a long time ago.
*love the "Moonstruck" quote*
WOW.. I haven't said "What The Fuck" OUT LOUD so many times..
Make up your damn minds OTALIA!! My GOODNESS!!
I have to join in right about here, to say hello ladies. I'm buying Erikatica, let me set you up.
Like Erikatica said, it is great to see you all back here again.
WOO HOO
Man if I was Nat, I would cut Rafe off for disrespecting Liv, whether they're in a relationship or not. He's doesn't have to approve, he doesn't even have to understand, but he does need to be a man, and stop being disrespectful.
lol at Blake feigning surprise, lol. And lol at Frank saying they'll get married and his family asking about a wedding when most of the kids on soap operas don't even know their "real" parents until they are usually grown. Slow it down let the kid get kidnapped a couple of times before it finds out who his real mother and father are lol
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I thought Rage's outburst that Liv stole Gus's heart was because he still partially blamed her for Gus's death (what with him driving erratically getting her a new heart from the 5 & dime). I also thought it was because he saw Liv as now stealing his mother from him as well. This made me think that his "you're going to be alone" speech was actually him subconciously expressing his fear of being alone when Nat stops wiping his arse. But then I realised that Rage is just not that deep!
You could see in the gazebo confrontation yesterday that Olivia kept putting physical distance between her and Nat co she knew that she would cave if Nat touched her (she almost did before Jellybean came over). Now Olivia is using Frank as a physical obstruction to increase that distance. Its not about love, that's undeniable between the two, but its about Liv protecting herself from further hurt. She doesn't trust Nat not to change her mind again; given the whole WoD, you can't blame her.
but on another note i love tht fact tht in the end of this episode liv goes to the place nat told her she loved her
Thanks for pointing that out!
Olivia scoffing at "good guy" made me giggle. Her not slapping Frank for saying the 'family that's wrong' not so much. Olivia only wears her badass shades when she wants to be badass & hide the fact that she's been crying. She's issuing a challenge to Natalia: Dare you to love me, push Frank & Creepy Cooper Clan away & show me how you could love me. I'm pretty sure she's hoping for a repeat outcome of the wedding cos Natalia will keep choosing Olivia every single time.
Its presumptive to say that Nat would have married Frank at the WoD. She said in the GoL that she couldn't lie to her God that she loved Frank when she didn't. She already knew that Liv was in love with her (again see GoL scene); all Liv's confession did was inspire her to articulate her own feelings. That's not my point anyway. Nat's decison-making is historically erratic,(e.g) gets scared after kiss with Liv, sleeps with Frank. Liv's like, what if she 180's again? Hence more trust issues..
I loved how when Rafe tried to tell her how he thinks it is she basically shoo'd him away like the CHILD he is... so immature he really annoys me but they better make this right or else!!!
Iluvcrystalsassalot, you are crazy as hell, and you are cracking MY ass up here tonight.
Oh i forgot the underage drinking, he is going to make a stellar brother.
I see frank still doesn't know how to knock
I actually kinda of like Frank in this episode. He's hurt, he's confused about the baby, of course he wants to marry Natalia and have a family together, but unlike Rage, he's beginning to take Olivia's feelings into account and consider how she feels about all of this. He acknowledges she's in love with Natalia and Natalia vise-versa and isn't willing to let her completely disregard her feelings.
i am loving this part of the story. yes.natalia and olivia seem to be falling back into their pre wedding of doom patterns however,everything is out in the open between the two.olivia told natalia she broke her. yes natalia looked like a deer caught in headlights like the graveyard scene.i think it will take someone like doris or josh to get natalia in line. olivia has to back off because natalia did the damage and she needs to fix it. as for rafe,olivia should have knocked his ass in the creek.
I can't believe Liv is giving up, this better not be the end of Otalia. I know Nat left without explanation but she is back and saying it isn't over come on!!!
I gotta say I'm the most annoyed with the way Natalia is behaving in all this. It's like she's got Asperger's or something, just oblivious emotionally to how she's effecting the people around her, especially Olivia. She's just blithely going around spreading the "good news" and then mildly disappointed & surprised that everyone isn't falling into line with her plans. I don't know if it's JL, the writers or the direction but it just doesn't make sense for her character.
Do Natalia and Olivia go on a date next week?
Man, you can't get a break. I don't think I've seen one of your comments without a red thumb :)
with the way i see that, Frank is going to bring Otalia together, he will see that Natalia and Olivia are madly in love with each other and there is nothing he can do about it, he will see that there is no chance for him so he will push them together.
Well i hope sooner the better, we all know they will end up together but not one week before the end....please!!!!!!!!!!
"And I didn't turn out so bad Ma!" Hello, boy you need to check yourself. You did time in Juvie, and a Men's Prison for shooting the DA, who just so happens to be the Father of Olivia's Daughter Ava. Because of what you did, you can't vote, be a Cop, get a Govt Job, and for the rest of your life you pay the price for what you did. Also, face facts Rafe, your mother doesn't love Frank she loves Olivia and having a Baby doesn't make her straight. Olivia should have thrown him over the cliff.
I would've told Nat I'm not Joseph and you not Mary lol
Im soo glad natalia is telling olivia and everyone what she wants, now olivia is running damn when will it end! and why isn't the doors locked on the FoL nows not the time for furtz to come in thats suppose to be olivia im so at odds with rafe its crazy how hes acting and the drinking lol.
Thanks dear, I took care of a few of yours too :)
Isn't he a grown A$$ man not a ten year old little girl. He need to grow tf up
Yes, he did---can you believe it?!? I nominate that as the funniest ( albeit unintentionally funniest ) line I've heard in this joke of a s/l. I can't believe he was able to say it with a straight face.
well gypseymoth, there is something wrong with it when it's a GODDAMN LIE!!!
The last thing she wants is a life without Dimples.
If she really wanted to or was really ready to "move on with her life" she would have screwed Josh.
Why would you think the writers are capable of remember a character detail like that?
What song is this
I'm just so upset that I just want to know what the two songs are in this part and who sings them.. Could you tell me that?.. le sigh..
club, girlfriend, you KNOW that this is not my usual MO. I have road shotgun with Dimples through all the negative shit thrown at her on these boards for weeks and weeks----so you have to know how hard this was for me, and how truly pushed to the limit I must be today.
But sometimes you can't co-sign, no matter how much you love someone. and the truth is just the truth.
Disneyland after dark???? This is getting as funny as Monty Python and that was hilarious. These 2 women need 2 get their act together and Rafey boy needs a brainscan. Oh yeah Frank needs a hairstylist.
Im sorry but i hate that everyone is telling Natalia how she should live and love here life. Her and Olivia are great parents and are right for each other!!!
I would be offended, but my Girl Scout leader always praised me for my firewood gathering skills. I assume we are torching the Gazebo right, because what they have done is downright evil. So count me in,
Seeing the SEDUCTION MACGYVER at work is too irresistible to not participate in this. KATE- - - I want in, I want in, I want in. hand waving in the air.
Samkarfran hilarious, what a wit, sorry I missed the moment, but so glad I dropped by.
I'm not the biggest fan of Rafe, but I do understand somewhat of where he was coming from his mother is a devoted Catholic woman all his life, she was a holy in his eyes, she was with a man he really look up to. So that was where his life really started because before then his life wasn't great in his version of thing. So he finally get that happy end that he dream of when he was a younger child. Then it all fall apart because of one person she is the villain in his world. Olivia Try to take everything from them since the beginning. So nothing change she is taking his happiness away.
I wonder why he wasn't in the family picture...mmm...ooh, he was in jail...he didn't turn out too bad..LOL!
I wish liv had pushed rafe off the bridge
ok, I have to comment on Natalia, the character. I think she could have done the same lame jobb as pregnant and "confident" in her decision without going away to "pray" and "think". I am not talking about Jessica's work as acctress, she very good at it. But I thought, if you have been away and really thought about things and what you want, you should be more confident. Since she left Oliviva without a word, she should have thought : what if.. Olivia is mad at me and doesn't want me back?...
No, no I think the OP was saying the Otalia storyline wouldn't have worked dramatically without Frank as an obstacle, and what he/she wants to see is Olivia and Natalia happily together at the end. Am I wrong? I think there was a miscommunication.
It's the picture she took of Olivia,when they was at baby Henry's Christning.
O God it's true, I thought I dreamt it, or was seeing doubles idk wtf?
Writers,
I waited "forever" for Nat to come back so I could finally see some Otalia Loving.Nat is back, and Liv is giving Josh?! all the sweet kisses? I get Liv is scarred and fears taking Nat back. And thanks to one of "your" bright ideas,if Liv does take Nat back, she's starting a relationship with Frank's seeds inside her woman.
But to have Liv hook up Frank and Nat "again" with one month left, is lazy and unforgivable!
totally agreed with you...My God...why all this story?Now Olivia ask Frank to fight for Natalia...no...no way folks...I can't stand it...that's too much...there's no peace for these two!And Rafe...my God, the most selfish guy in the world...I just can't stand him...
Royal, what was my same reaction.. I can't believe this.
"Top Gun Liv and Foster Grant Frank" LOL
On it Kate.. except I'm starting NOW!
Rafe is a very selfish young man. All ha cares about is what he wants. His mother loves Olivia, yet all he cares about is what he wants.
I'll just get in line with my bat... after you ladies...
And then Rafe made it all about himself. Surprise surprise. He can reduce anything to his egocentric point of view. Without realizing that there is so much more love in the universe. And that's all Natalia wants. And yes - he didn't turn out so bad juvie, prison he is so irritating. But it advances the plot... that Natalia was able to overcome the outright hostility from both her priests and her son demonstrated the depth of her love and her courage in the face of such forces.
I see Frank as Penelope Pitstop, all pink and girley when he is standing next to the railroad tracks.
Olivia who has been stripped of all character, because we all know she has a secret identity as Dick Dasterdly, has lured him there to tie him up and lay him across the railroad tracks. Honestly, the Olivia that I know is capable of this.
Penelope (Fr.) is yelling HAY ULP, HAY ULP.
Rafe and father Ray are the Slag brothers. The cavemen driving the rock with wheels.
Yes the next time she is in some soap show the writers should bring someone in to punch Olivia's lights out and say you Re not so tough now bitch.
LMAO jonsey!!! I think our girls have so much accumulated sexual frustration that it has melted both their brains...Nat became a zombie and Liv is pimping out her gf to Goob. they could at least have made that mafia gf swapping scene fun since they were on the train tracks and do it at night with a blinking lampost and some fog. liv in a trenchcoat and the Goob with an eye patch and a hat. This is REDUNCULOUS!! (ridiculous and redundant)..
Seems the ONLY thing he learned living with Frank is how to install a tracking device. We went from Nat tracker to Liv tracker..pffffttt.....
Why does Frank just walk in uhhhggg
what did N pull out of her wallet?
I think so,too.
Man up, Frank!
Yeah,he didn't turn out so bad. Except he shot Jeffrey,got Daisy pregnant and went on the run. He also served time. Now he didn't turn so bad. Yeah right.
Did Frank Jr actually say he didn't turn out that bad. roflmao..............
What song starts at 8:30?
flat? she was downright zombie today! I think the entire episode was completely ridiculous (don't even get me started on the reva bit which even scared me it was so creepy) but it's like Otalia on the worse day of the L Word. Next thing we know Natalia will be taking to manatees and having carnival dream sequences. WTF is this? Have Ilene Chaiken n David Lynch taken over? Theyre making even me, the number 1 Dimples lover, want to smack the spine back into her!!
PAs, please pass the tequila!
what the HELL was this episode?
Oh, Let the writers listen to your words and get their senses back...
can anyone tell me what nat pulls out of her wallet at 9:08 and looks at. apparently it upsets her.
can i say olivia was kick ass in those shades,lol...and was gangsta on the bridge..and i think frank isn't going to play this game...if he's a good man , he'll do what josh did..not get in the middle of this drama
I'm wriying one now!
Tonight when I got home from work I sat down in front of my computer....I got that same feeling I get when I am driving on the freeway and I come upon a horrible accident....I say "dont look, dont look!"....then I look and I am haunted the rest of the day!
No wonder they didnt want to "label" this story...so they could fucking trash it and not say it was a gay thing!
The thing I have learned from this dissapointing experience is, a "label" aint that bad!
jajajajajajajajajajja that was hilarious!!!
And btw, I don't think we agree on bitch slapping Rafe.I'm more of a martial artsy lady and am thinking along a grander scale here;-)Lol.
Good one kid!!!! LOL
i think maybe its a picture
What's up with Blake? She acted surprised to hear Nat's news about being pregnant--wasn't she the one that helped Nat get outta dodge in the first place?
you ain't never lied, meat LOL
she's tired of fighting. and afraid that she could be hurt again.
so, now is her time to ran, when is life difficult.
don't we do that all, sometime. :)
Chapel... hello there1
Ok, just saw this and wanted to make a bunch of smart comments, but the end scene with the music....Argh.
in this drama called gl... there are no full writers there;
only interns from the culinary institute!!!! REMEMEBER THE PORTIONS ON EVERY SHOT IN TOWERS.. monster sizes!
I like how Rafe is always smiling when he is talking to Olivia even when he is telling her off, like on the bridge and at the ballpark a few episodes back. They must be really close offset because she makes him laugh or grin everytime.
The only difference between this wedding story and the other wedding story, is this one is going to take place in better weather. God, I hate the writers.
My only defense of Rafe--selfish boy that he is,is that he was in prison during the blossoming of otalia love and as such he did'nt get to see how happy Olivia has made his mother . Also,he has'nt seen how much loving Natalia has changed Olivia for the better. Maybe if he had been present over the past year he might not have felt so shocked. Anyway,as we know ,from the past,Natalia is quietly persistent. Nothing-not Rafe-not anyone--not even the goddess herself, will keep her from her soul mate.
This is how they got in this mess in the first place
I agree.
jajajajjajajaaja hilarious!!!!
hell yeah!