someone made a joke on another comment section that I'll repeat here. 'These aliens are so considerate. they're even putting FAA required navigation lights on their flying saucers'
Yeah, I looked at the video for like 5 seconds and was thinking, "they have FAA lights on them so WHO CARES". They're obviously known by someone what they are and are "approved" so this only appeals to 2 crowds: Nosey idiots and people that want to create drama about it which is pointed at nosey idiots.
The other danger is hasty legislation that infringes on our privacy and civil liberties and results in the further militarization of law enforcement, which is actually happening right now.
A variety of air force bases have had to shut down airspace due to "heavy UAS (drone) activity" in the last few days. Airports were shut down. Do you think that air force bases are just making things up over "mass hysteria"?
@k0lpA Bob Purtinan, the spokesman for Wright Patterson AFB, also confirmed it in a statement. Mick West and the FP could've done a tiny bit of research
It is reported in the Warzone - article titled "Drone Incursions closed Wright Patterson AFB Airspace Friday Night" dated 12.15.24 The reporter is Howard Altman and the AFB spokespersons name is Bob Purtiman. I think the ATC audio is on TH-cam.
@@gartsky Same thing happened over Hill AFB in Utah and in a CA AFB too, among about a dozen others. Langley also reporting drone incursions for a few years now. This is bad reporting.
TFP: Having Mick West as your guest was a great choice. He is reasonable, and always looks for evidence. His last points about the dangers to civilian manned aircraft (if vigilantes start shooting at things they see flying at night), is appropriate and should be repeated.
While Mick discusses the immediate dangers of this mass hysteria in reference to people shooting airplanes or using lasers on airplanes, there is another danger: Unnecessary government action. Politicians can use this panic to push legislation that infringes on our rights and privacy.
I respect Mick West for his sceptism based on his expertise and profession. But also respect other professionals like pilots based on their expertise when they see things that is not of normal occurrence. They are physically there seeing things. Mick is seeing things on a computer screen without actually being at the location and then debunks based on data. However not all sightings can be accounted for based on data.
@@thestoo8328 I agree with you 100%. However when it comes on to whats going on in our sky, there is a mixtures of man made, unexplained and the unknown. We should be open-minded to the situation because being a full skeptic is literally self proclaiming that we know and have the answers to everything that is going on up there and the reality is that we don't.
@@thegoodlifewatch There are strange sightings no doubt. Metabunk have done some excellent work over the years, but, there are certain topics I'm still not convinced they've completely debunked, more around geopolitical research as it is a tricky landscape. I would say though that their work is well evidenced in the majority of cases in my opinion. I just try to be cautious and only want to explore unexplained phenomena if there genuinely isn't a concrete explanation.
But you don’t agree with the pilots. Absolutely no pilots have reported seeing unidentified aircraft in New Jersey during this drone panic. All the pilots on social media have been identifying these “drones” as commercial aircraft so I’m not sure what you mean when you say you are trusting the professional pilots.
@TheMastermark10 Theorists will refer to related sightings far from New Jersey as evidence that there's something strange going on. Who needs consistency when you can be alarmist?
I agree that some of what people are seeing are likely planes and at this point there might be some social contagion going on. At the same time, I live in NJ and started to notice an undeniable spike in drones or whatever they are before I heard anything on the news. My view is that while he may be correct about some percentage of what's going on, he's not fully correct. I am very resistant to group think and don't feel hysterical about what I'm seeing, there is just a difference and the noise level from some of them is significantly increased as well.
Then why has no one got footage of something that isn’t a plane? A lot of people have started using their own commercial drones to try and get footage of other drones. That is probably the increase you are seeing
@@TheMastermark10 There is. The image at 3:38 is a prime example. Except it does not confirm to Man's own expectaions of what a 'real UFO should lokk like and behave. PS: there are images of objects which hover in the sky in many numbers - those are obviously not planes - move oddly, someitmes not making a sound, and assuming triagula formation. Please note the images filmed by a pssenger of a commerical airliner, @ 1:21 on the shared video. th-cam.com/video/wNl9dQ6zBEI/w-d-xo.html
Probably a professional debunker. The British accent confers some air of 'authority'. But is not. Jacques Vallée is an authority. What this man Mick West fails toa ddress is that much of the same phenomenon is happening in Brazil as well.
I think most of these sightings are just regular planes. But I've heard enough detailed reports from credible sources to think that there probably have been some small VTOL aircraft flying around the area.
this credible source in almost all cases is a smokescreen and is regulation when no credible evidence is revealed, 2nd hand accounts are not good enough to justify the current level of manufactured hysteria. credible people are not exempt from spouting bs. planes and drones are real, uap's shutting down nuclear sites are not. however there has got to be a good reason for decades old deception so i just trust its for all our benefits and not the playbooks version, pointing fingers at the military industrial complex seems far fetched.
@@plafar7887 He showed TikTok excerpts of planes, and then said they were planes. He didn't address the many sightings that clearly aren't planes at all. If I tell you, "all fruit are apples," and then just show you pics of apples as proof, guess what the conclusion will be?
@@bsmithhammer "The many sightings" - which sightings? He can't address every claim of someone who happens to have a brainfart and decide that a star or airplane must be an alien spacecraft.
@@plafar7887 Are you familiar with all the military sighting, pilot sightings, sensor system verifications? Apparently not, and neither is Mick. This is cherry-picking to serve a narrative, nothing more.
@@bsmithhammer I am very familiar with it, probably much more than you, as I took part in investigations of these phenomena more than 15 years ago and interviewed several people, including pilots. What you most likely don't understand is that people read into things much more than they should. This is something you'll only understand if you deal with it first-hand.
This is real evidence of one main thing... that people almost never look up from their phones long enough to realize they live near a commercial flight path.
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My mother (83) has been very concerned about all these drone sitings. I've reminded her repeatedly, "You know how stupid people are."
Right from the beginning this guy laughs and makes a joke about new jersy. Im in TX out in the country and these are hanging out in the skies. Its not just jersy guys its all over the US.
It's also happening in Brazil., as well as in other countries...meaning it's not US 'military contractors'....I love The Free Press but like most journalists, they never really researched the UFO phenomenon and are unaware that UFO Flaps happen and have happened over the skies throguthout the world. The UFO/UAP phenomenon is Paraphisical, Terrestrial Crypto Fauna. 'Mystery drones' is just their latest incarnation, their latest decoy. Real UAPs are mimetic, and they have in the past masked as Mystery Air Ships, Mystery Planes, Mystery Helicopters. In fact, you can look up the Mystery Airship of 1896-7, that is arguably the very first documetned UFO flap in the USA.
mick should be at the hearings, it would save a lot of time and boredom listening to the same cast members reveal the usual zero, unless anyone watching are interested in the extreme credability and crafted innuendo on show from these seasoned performers. it was suprising that the star turn from previous hearings grush was not invited as i was hoping he would elaborate a little more on his aliens are murdering humans and garden shed sized crafts that on entry are actually to size of football stadiums. however my understanding of uap's that defy the laws of physics has never registered with me despite the number of times they have been reported. mick is a fellow northerner so i have no such problems taking in his words of wisdom.
Here in Los Angeles there’s been a huge increase in these drones flying overhead at night time, at one point me and my wife could count atleast 20 or so blinking red lights in the sky .. also their flight patterns are even more telling, often these aircrafts are staying still in place and just floating in one spot not moving, then sometimes going in circles, a few went back and forth over the freeway as we were driving, airplanes aren’t doing flight patterns like that so low to the ground … this video is a complete gaslighting of what’s currently happening and far from in-depth reporting. Something strange is happening, and it doesn’t require any weird conspiracy explanations to demonstrate something abnormal is occurring, I just don’t know what exactly it is or who’s behind it, and I find it absolutely abhorrent that our federal government and or atleast our governor haven’t said a dam thing about it.
How are those reliable? They don’t know anymore about aircraft then me and you, no one’s saying they’re all just making it up, they’re just mistaking things for drones
Michael is unbearably biased and can't even be bothered to do his job. instead, he's always looking bored, dishing out insults and unqualified opinions, slouching like a real dush and not adding anything to the conversation
All of that invective, and yet you can't be bothered to produce so much as as one credible counter to his ideas. It seems like you are really, really angry about something-could it really be about drones and flying saucers? Weird. 🛸
@@thingonathinginathing And equally nothing of substance from you either. And liking your own video doesn't count. Congratulations, you guys should form a club.
7:44 EXACTLY. Distance is bad enough just on the road at night. Try it on a lonely 2 lane in say out in west texas or like Kansas or any flat stretch. 3times as bad at night. Major international airport, heavier than normal traffic, IDK like for Christmas maybe? Unusual wind pattern so the typical "stack" is different location. Or a wind change after dark and the stack has to move because the airport is changjng the active runways so transition puts planes all over the sky for an hour or two. Or More if it switches AGAIN halfway through the transition or in case of Reagan National or big shots from somewhere inbound or outbound and airspace is cleared because of it. If pattern is down wind wouldn't hear a thing without SERIOUS (EXPENSIVE) gear. Throw in a handful of yahoos with early Christmas presents with a couple of six packs down, thousands of new cell phones, same six packs per and Voila! Herd heads for the nearest cliff. AGAIN!
All this drone hysteria seems to be just a bit reminiscent of HG Wells war of the worlds broadcast way back when all we had was radio. We are such magnificent creatures, we have now created the all powerful all knowing Internet and we can still get freaked out by a fantasy.
@@bsmithhammer Did you watch the video? During the discussion they bring up Amazon getting their drone deliveries up and running... and I was just pointing out that Walmart has been doing drone deliveries for literally years.
To befair to MIchael and Batya, like most journalists they likely enver gave much credence to and never investigated or even read about the 'UFO phenomenon' in all its scope, distribution and historical contex and cases, so just like most journalists they deferred to some You Tube Pro debunker.... I just pointed out that The Free Press could do a better job on this topic and interview Dr. Jacques Vallée. He is an expert a trained physicist, w/ decades behind reaseaching the phenomenon.
it does not class as eyewitness if its at the very best 2nd hand, easier to examine the sources of the information which is normally the usual suspects trebling down on their own credability while reciting from the tired old playbook. there are various levels of useful idiots and at present all are in play but not all graduate to grift status
Trump did not need a secret briefing to know that The Government knew all about the drones - because it was obvious to everyone from officials' weird & evasive responses to all straightforward questions. ps. I'm a Brit and, (whatever her other short-comings) I did really enjoy it when Marjorie Taylor Greene said that our pompous ex Prime Minister David Cameron could 'Kiss her Ass'. 🤣
"We can't judge the size of things in the sky" thanks you.. keep hearing about car-sized drones, how TF do you know the size of something in the sky ? You have to know the distance for that there is no reference in the sky like there is on land where you could judge the size of something compared to a road or a car there's only clouds in the sky there is no way to know if something is big because it's close or because it's big with only the naked eye.
Ok, how about pilots who are not only seeing these things visually, but also picking them up on imaging systems? There are numerous reports of various imaging systems showing these things - it isn't just dependent on the report of human eyeballs.
Mick West is a professional 'debunker', he is merely expalining them away, not very well, leaving out that it's also happening in the Mid West. His attitude is classic, 1960, debunker tactics, he just says every one suffering from mass delusions, then says 'dont't mock them'. He knows best, and is right, while everyone else is mistaken..yeah, right....
Well done. It's a bunch of hackster photographers, amateur pilots, planes, drones or drone operators, creating sensationalism, looking for clicks. Just because a bunch of idiots want answers, that doesn't mean that they deserve them. If I were in government, and thank God I am not, I wouldn't pay 2 pennies worth of resources to discuss it. It is not worth our time. Why do we think that just because there is an internet sensation, someone in government cyber operations has to stop what they are doing and spend a bunch of time assessing the risks? These folks are theoretically doing important things, and I find it irritating that I have had to hear about this nonsense and we had to divert resources to address social media influencers.
If we were to get uap disclosure early on next year or the year after will you be calling mick west back in for another interview? And if you do can you quiz him if he was receipt of monies illegally appropriated from the American tax payer for highly illegal programs and some given to mick to debunk such allegations? Or if he is just a highly motivated and highly enthusiastic debunker who just embarked on this second career out of genuine held personal beliefs which had nothing to do with receiving illegal payments? If the uap allegations are proven to be false and also illegal government pysops operation then mick should be awarded some sort of medal for his work by the American replublic. However if the allegations are true then micks personal finances and connections to those running the program need to be also investigated as well as those exposed for running the program. He may well be innocent either way but it would be criminally incompetent journalism for it not to be looked at at a late date if and when things come out.
Yeesh, you really do think debunkers are just paid propagandists running cover for the govt. What a sad life to live. It's not illegal to state one's opinions online, and you can't just open a criminal investigation against a guy because they might have been wrong.
Omg, some guy with a snotty brittish accent telling everyone that their tiny little brains are suffering from mass delusion isn’t helping the situation at all.
@@Mrsilic414 what would be better is the people who are makiing the unproven claims actualy reveal who their sources are and let them try and convince us that we have no defence against these uap's as doubling down on their own credability is not evidence. however drones and planes are real but not the reported swarms from iranian motherships out at sea
@@northern-n2l Honestly, I won’t believe any of it until I see it with my own two eyeballs. And even then, I’d get a second opinion. Even if the government makes a big announcement about aliens coming down to invade the globe, I wouldn’t believe it until I had an alien standing in front of me shaking my hand. Call me crazy, but after the last 6 years, I don’t have time for any more BS.
You cannot say that you’re practicing fair journalism if the entire piece concerns debunking and assuming that all reports are false, or mistaken. It feels like you’re very biased towards our current government. Nothing that discusses closures of bases or airports recently, nyc and Ohio?? Lousy journalism. Propaganda. Shame on you.
What you mean the video titled gimbal that is perfectly explained by the gimbal of the targetting pod? Maybe you should watch that analysis again. You can literally see the background noise in the video rotating with the object's IR glare. The pentagon videos are actually a prime example of pilots not being familiar enough with how their optical and targeting equipment works. Even pilots are easily mistaken, as clearly seen by their stupefied "oh my god look, it’s rotating." Parralax, optical effects, and image processing fool people very easily. We are at the point where technology is just way over people's heads and the people operating it don't really understand all the mechanics at play. People have no clue how their iphone camera even works let alone a classified lockheed martin targetting pod.
someone made a joke on another comment section that I'll repeat here. 'These aliens are so considerate. they're even putting FAA required navigation lights on their flying saucers'
it's so we think they are planes ! that's how they did 911 ! UFO fuel CAN melt steel beams !
Dude, the joke is 3 weeks old already, we've all heard it lol.
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@@TrustMe8roYears not weeks lol.
Yeah, I looked at the video for like 5 seconds and was thinking, "they have FAA lights on them so WHO CARES". They're obviously known by someone what they are and are "approved" so this only appeals to 2 crowds: Nosey idiots and people that want to create drama about it which is pointed at nosey idiots.
_"It's definitely not a plane,"_ she says, while definitely filming a plane. This is how the social contagion spreads.... through the stupid people.
I know right? I just... can't believe this is where we're at!
Reminds me of the stories from Bigfoot believers, they always say “it wasn’t a bear”, when it definitely was a bear.
Mick West is a rare voice of reason in our increasingly insane world.
The other danger is hasty legislation that infringes on our privacy and civil liberties and results in the further militarization of law enforcement, which is actually happening right now.
I guess so. But I think it's perfectly reasonable that any aircraft should be identifiable. Even cars have license plates.
@andybrice2711 Yes, drones over 250 grams already require a remote tracking ID.
A variety of air force bases have had to shut down airspace due to "heavy UAS (drone) activity" in the last few days. Airports were shut down. Do you think that air force bases are just making things up over "mass hysteria"?
source ?
@@k0lpA you can Google "Drone Incursions Closed Wright-Patterson Air Force Base’s Airspace." There have been incursions at like a dozen AFBs now
@k0lpA Bob Purtinan, the spokesman for Wright Patterson AFB, also confirmed it in a statement. Mick West and the FP could've done a tiny bit of research
It is reported in the Warzone - article titled "Drone Incursions closed Wright Patterson AFB Airspace Friday Night" dated 12.15.24
The reporter is Howard Altman and the AFB spokespersons name is Bob Purtiman.
I think the ATC audio is on TH-cam.
@@gartsky Same thing happened over Hill AFB in Utah and in a CA AFB too, among about a dozen others. Langley also reporting drone incursions for a few years now. This is bad reporting.
well done FP. too few platforms invite skeptics because it's the sensationalists that get the clicks. bravo!
Wow, I don’t think a Chinese ballon flying around our bases is a joke
TFP: Having Mick West as your guest was a great choice. He is reasonable, and always looks for evidence. His last points about the dangers to civilian manned aircraft (if vigilantes start shooting at things they see flying at night), is appropriate and should be repeated.
While Mick discusses the immediate dangers of this mass hysteria in reference to people shooting airplanes or using lasers on airplanes, there is another danger: Unnecessary government action. Politicians can use this panic to push legislation that infringes on our rights and privacy.
@paigefoster8396 Why is that?
Could it be Santa Claus testing new delivery service
Michael in every video looks at the camera like a disappointed dad.
Ha! That's a perfect description. And totally the opposite from Batya... who looks like a delighted mom :)
He has a confusing braced slouch posture.
The ones that have shut down the airports are reported as drones. I think the airport would also know what a plane is
I respect Mick West for his sceptism based on his expertise and profession. But also respect other professionals like pilots based on their expertise when they see things that is not of normal occurrence. They are physically there seeing things. Mick is seeing things on a computer screen without actually being at the location and then debunks based on data. However not all sightings can be accounted for based on data.
Like the pilots that called in UFOs on ATC which turned out to be starlink flares?
Professionals can get it wrong too, nothing wrong with that.
@@thestoo8328 I agree with you 100%. However when it comes on to whats going on in our sky, there is a mixtures of man made, unexplained and the unknown. We should be open-minded to the situation because being a full skeptic is literally self proclaiming that we know and have the answers to everything that is going on up there and the reality is that we don't.
@@thegoodlifewatch There are strange sightings no doubt. Metabunk have done some excellent work over the years, but, there are certain topics I'm still not convinced they've completely debunked, more around geopolitical research as it is a tricky landscape. I would say though that their work is well evidenced in the majority of cases in my opinion.
I just try to be cautious and only want to explore unexplained phenomena if there genuinely isn't a concrete explanation.
But you don’t agree with the pilots. Absolutely no pilots have reported seeing unidentified aircraft in New Jersey during this drone panic. All the pilots on social media have been identifying these “drones” as commercial aircraft so I’m not sure what you mean when you say you are trusting the professional pilots.
@TheMastermark10 Theorists will refer to related sightings far from New Jersey as evidence that there's something strange going on. Who needs consistency when you can be alarmist?
As someone from New Jersey...If the drones want it, they can have it. Not that big of a loss.
I agree that some of what people are seeing are likely planes and at this point there might be some social contagion going on. At the same time, I live in NJ and started to notice an undeniable spike in drones or whatever they are before I heard anything on the news. My view is that while he may be correct about some percentage of what's going on, he's not fully correct. I am very resistant to group think and don't feel hysterical about what I'm seeing, there is just a difference and the noise level from some of them is significantly increased as well.
Then why has no one got footage of something that isn’t a plane? A lot of people have started using their own commercial drones to try and get footage of other drones. That is probably the increase you are seeing
@@TheMastermark10 There is. The image at 3:38 is a prime example. Except it does not confirm to Man's own expectaions of what a 'real UFO should lokk like and behave. PS: there are images of objects which hover in the sky in many numbers - those are obviously not planes - move oddly, someitmes not making a sound, and assuming triagula formation. Please note the images filmed by a pssenger of a commerical airliner, @ 1:21 on the shared video.
th-cam.com/video/wNl9dQ6zBEI/w-d-xo.html
When this all started, I was thinking to myself... What does Mick think about all of this?? I'm happy he's speaking out 😂
0:05 Michael is dripping with Get Off My Lawn energy and I'm here for it.
Who is Mick West? Is he somebody?
Ya he’s a guy
Go watch his TH-cam channel and find out. But he did work on Tony Hawk pro skater games which is unrelated but a fun fact
I think he's somebody. Pretty sure he's not AI generated.
Probably a professional debunker. The British accent confers some air of 'authority'. But is not. Jacques Vallée is an authority. What this man Mick West fails toa ddress is that much of the same phenomenon is happening in Brazil as well.
@@tiluriso Pretty sure they have aircraft in Brazil, too.
I think most of these sightings are just regular planes. But I've heard enough detailed reports from credible sources to think that there probably have been some small VTOL aircraft flying around the area.
@andybrice2711 Joby Aviation, Archer Aviation, and Blade Air Mobility are a few companies that might be operating in the area based on a quick search.
this credible source in almost all cases is a smokescreen and is regulation when no credible evidence is revealed, 2nd hand accounts are not good enough to justify the current level of manufactured hysteria. credible people are not exempt from spouting bs. planes and drones are real, uap's shutting down nuclear sites are not. however there has got to be a good reason for decades old deception so i just trust its for all our benefits and not the playbooks version, pointing fingers at the military industrial complex seems far fetched.
It’s actually worse…the authorities have stated that they don’t know whose aircraft they are.
Not anymore. They've looked.
www.dhs.gov/news/2024/12/16/dhs-fbi-faa-dod-joint-statement-ongoing-response-reported-drone-sightings
Mick West doesn't debunk anything with facts, he only belittles.
Pretty sure he used facts in this video.
@@plafar7887 He showed TikTok excerpts of planes, and then said they were planes. He didn't address the many sightings that clearly aren't planes at all.
If I tell you, "all fruit are apples," and then just show you pics of apples as proof, guess what the conclusion will be?
@@bsmithhammer "The many sightings" - which sightings? He can't address every claim of someone who happens to have a brainfart and decide that a star or airplane must be an alien spacecraft.
@@plafar7887 Are you familiar with all the military sighting, pilot sightings, sensor system verifications? Apparently not, and neither is Mick. This is cherry-picking to serve a narrative, nothing more.
@@bsmithhammer I am very familiar with it, probably much more than you, as I took part in investigations of these phenomena more than 15 years ago and interviewed several people, including pilots. What you most likely don't understand is that people read into things much more than they should. This is something you'll only understand if you deal with it first-hand.
No. There are drones. Sorry to spoil the cool kid’s party. Might be planning to depress inauguration turnout.
I'm sorry, man, but this conspiracy is so specious that you should feel embarrassed.
Has he gone to NJ?
Nope.
He watched videos.
This is real evidence of one main thing...
that people almost never look up from their phones long enough to realize they live near a commercial flight path.
My mother (83) has been very concerned about all these drone sitings. I've reminded her repeatedly, "You know how stupid people are."
Right from the beginning this guy laughs and makes a joke about new jersy. Im in TX out in the country and these are hanging out in the skies. Its not just jersy guys its all over the US.
It's also happening in Brazil., as well as in other countries...meaning it's not US 'military contractors'....I love The Free Press but like most journalists, they never really researched the UFO phenomenon and are unaware that UFO Flaps happen and have happened over the skies throguthout the world. The UFO/UAP phenomenon is Paraphisical, Terrestrial Crypto Fauna. 'Mystery drones' is just their latest incarnation, their latest decoy. Real UAPs are mimetic, and they have in the past masked as Mystery Air Ships, Mystery Planes, Mystery Helicopters. In fact, you can look up the Mystery Airship of 1896-7, that is arguably the very first documetned UFO flap in the USA.
mick should be at the hearings, it would save a lot of time and boredom listening to the same cast members reveal the usual zero, unless anyone watching are interested in the extreme credability and crafted innuendo on show from these seasoned performers. it was suprising that the star turn from previous hearings grush was not invited as i was hoping he would elaborate a little more on his aliens are murdering humans and garden shed sized crafts that on entry are actually to size of football stadiums. however my understanding of uap's that defy the laws of physics has never registered with me despite the number of times they have been reported. mick is a fellow northerner so i have no such problems taking in his words of wisdom.
Here in Los Angeles there’s been a huge increase in these drones flying overhead at night time, at one point me and my wife could count atleast 20 or so blinking red lights in the sky .. also their flight patterns are even more telling, often these aircrafts are staying still in place and just floating in one spot not moving, then sometimes going in circles, a few went back and forth over the freeway as we were driving, airplanes aren’t doing flight patterns like that so low to the ground … this video is a complete gaslighting of what’s currently happening and far from in-depth reporting. Something strange is happening, and it doesn’t require any weird conspiracy explanations to demonstrate something abnormal is occurring, I just don’t know what exactly it is or who’s behind it, and I find it absolutely abhorrent that our federal government and or atleast our governor haven’t said a dam thing about it.
Some credible witnesses like sheriff's, governors, mayors and having their own videoes and eyewitness encounters. What you make of that??
How are those reliable? They don’t know anymore about aircraft then me and you, no one’s saying they’re all just making it up, they’re just mistaking things for drones
There was a Chinese national who was arrested last month for flying a drone over a military base on the East coast.
Does anyone have a link to Moynihan's video?
It's also about the hyperabundance of "evidence", the probabilities of large numbers, and the amplifying effects of social media algorithms.
Waaaaaay more camera phones than "Drones", no doubt.
Michael is unbearably biased and can't even be bothered to do his job. instead, he's always looking bored, dishing out insults and unqualified opinions, slouching like a real dush and not adding anything to the conversation
All of that invective, and yet you can't be bothered to produce so much as as one credible counter to his ideas.
It seems like you are really, really angry about something-could it really be about drones and flying saucers?
Weird.
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@darklight2.1 No, he's right. Lmao
@@thingonathinginathing And equally nothing of substance from you either.
And liking your own video doesn't count.
Congratulations, you guys should form a club.
@@darklight2.1 😬
Actually, I just saw a tik tok video yesterday of someone firing an automatic rifle at a "drone" from his front porch!!! Craziness!!!
7:44 EXACTLY. Distance is bad enough just on the road at night.
Try it on a lonely 2 lane in say out in west texas or like Kansas or any flat stretch.
3times as bad at night.
Major international airport, heavier than normal traffic, IDK like for Christmas maybe? Unusual wind pattern so the typical "stack" is different location. Or a wind change after dark and the stack has to move because the airport is changjng the active runways so transition puts planes all over the sky for an hour or two. Or More if it switches AGAIN halfway through the transition or in case of Reagan National or big shots from somewhere inbound or outbound and airspace is cleared because of it.
If pattern is down wind wouldn't hear a thing without SERIOUS (EXPENSIVE) gear.
Throw in a handful of yahoos with early Christmas presents with a couple of six packs down, thousands of new cell phones, same six packs per and Voila!
Herd heads for the nearest cliff.
AGAIN!
It’s been confirmed at the highest levels that we’re not alone on this planet.
They’re here 👽 🛸
Let’s all remember that this guy is stating his opinion.
All this drone hysteria seems to be just a bit reminiscent of HG Wells war of the worlds broadcast way back when all we had was radio. We are such magnificent creatures, we have now created the all powerful all knowing Internet and we can still get freaked out by a fantasy.
Walmart has already been delivering via drone for several years.
Do they deliver at night?
....and....what does that have to do with this?
@@bsmithhammer Did you watch the video? During the discussion they bring up Amazon getting their drone deliveries up and running... and I was just pointing out that Walmart has been doing drone deliveries for literally years.
@@hamletfan8 Of course I watched the video. But I don't see what Amazon or Walmart deliveries have to do with what we are seeing right now.
@@bsmithhammer they were the ones who brought up drone deliveries on the video... I was just responding to their comment.
This is terrible journalism. What a conceded ass, sitting back, folding your arms, denying eyewitness reports. Never watching The "Free" Press again.
Yeah, don't you just hate people spitting facts with a brirish accent.
To befair to MIchael and Batya, like most journalists they likely enver gave much credence to and never investigated or even read about the 'UFO phenomenon' in all its scope, distribution and historical contex and cases, so just like most journalists they deferred to some You Tube Pro debunker....
I just pointed out that The Free Press could do a better job on this topic and interview Dr. Jacques Vallée. He is an expert a trained physicist, w/ decades behind reaseaching the phenomenon.
it does not class as eyewitness if its at the very best 2nd hand, easier to examine the sources of the information which is normally the usual suspects trebling down on their own credability while reciting from the tired old playbook. there are various levels of useful idiots and at present all are in play but not all graduate to grift status
Trump did not need a secret briefing to know that The Government knew all about the drones - because it was obvious to everyone from officials' weird & evasive responses to all straightforward questions. ps. I'm a Brit and, (whatever her other short-comings) I did really enjoy it when Marjorie Taylor Greene said that our pompous ex Prime Minister David Cameron could 'Kiss her Ass'. 🤣
"We can't judge the size of things in the sky" thanks you.. keep hearing about car-sized drones, how TF do you know the size of something in the sky ? You have to know the distance for that there is no reference in the sky like there is on land where you could judge the size of something compared to a road or a car there's only clouds in the sky there is no way to know if something is big because it's close or because it's big with only the naked eye.
Ok, how about pilots who are not only seeing these things visually, but also picking them up on imaging systems? There are numerous reports of various imaging systems showing these things - it isn't just dependent on the report of human eyeballs.
Mick West is a professional 'debunker', he is merely expalining them away, not very well, leaving out that it's also happening in the Mid West. His attitude is classic, 1960, debunker tactics, he just says every one suffering from mass delusions, then says 'dont't mock them'. He knows best, and is right, while everyone else is mistaken..yeah, right....
@@tiluriso Exactly. Here are a bunch of pictures of dogs, and now I'm going to explain to you why all pets are dogs.
Well done. It's a bunch of hackster photographers, amateur pilots, planes, drones or drone operators, creating sensationalism, looking for clicks. Just because a bunch of idiots want answers, that doesn't mean that they deserve them. If I were in government, and thank God I am not, I wouldn't pay 2 pennies worth of resources to discuss it. It is not worth our time. Why do we think that just because there is an internet sensation, someone in government cyber operations has to stop what they are doing and spend a bunch of time assessing the risks? These folks are theoretically doing important things, and I find it irritating that I have had to hear about this nonsense and we had to divert resources to address social media influencers.
I live by our airport....stop mocking people. You go look at them now. Then report bwck and i want a complete report
Here comes the Patriot Act 2.0 and just like last time, our government is involved.
No one suggested AgI breadkout o.0
Smooth brains...
Everything is a plane ✈️ right mick
huge swaths of ppl are stupid. ignore real threats and panic over imaginary ones.
If we were to get uap disclosure early on next year or the year after will you be calling mick west back in for another interview? And if you do can you quiz him if he was receipt of monies illegally appropriated from the American tax payer for highly illegal programs and some given to mick to debunk such allegations? Or if he is just a highly motivated and highly enthusiastic debunker who just embarked on this second career out of genuine held personal beliefs which had nothing to do with receiving illegal payments? If the uap allegations are proven to be false and also illegal government pysops operation then mick should be awarded some sort of medal for his work by the American replublic. However if the allegations are true then micks personal finances and connections to those running the program need to be also investigated as well as those exposed for running the program. He may well be innocent either way but it would be criminally incompetent journalism for it not to be looked at at a late date if and when things come out.
Yeesh, you really do think debunkers are just paid propagandists running cover for the govt. What a sad life to live.
It's not illegal to state one's opinions online, and you can't just open a criminal investigation against a guy because they might have been wrong.
Omg, some guy with a snotty brittish accent telling everyone that their tiny little brains are suffering from mass delusion isn’t helping the situation at all.
What, should he agree with you just to protect your feelings? Would you feel better if he sounded like John Wayne?
@ actually, yes. That would be a lot better.
@@Mrsilic414 what would be better is the people who are makiing the unproven claims actualy reveal who their sources are and let them try and convince us that we have no defence against these uap's as doubling down on their own credability is not evidence. however drones and planes are real but not the reported swarms from iranian motherships out at sea
@@northern-n2l Honestly, I won’t believe any of it until I see it with my own two eyeballs. And even then, I’d get a second opinion. Even if the government makes a big announcement about aliens coming down to invade the globe, I wouldn’t believe it until I had an alien standing in front of me shaking my hand. Call me crazy, but after the last 6 years, I don’t have time for any more BS.
Has Mick had his teeth done!?
Psych-Ops at its best
You cannot say that you’re practicing fair journalism if the entire piece concerns debunking and assuming that all reports are false, or mistaken. It feels like you’re very biased towards our current government. Nothing that discusses closures of bases or airports recently, nyc and Ohio?? Lousy journalism. Propaganda. Shame on you.
I agree with him here; but this guy was totally wrong and kind of ridiculous in what he made of the pentagon release videos… 🤷♂️
What you mean the video titled gimbal that is perfectly explained by the gimbal of the targetting pod? Maybe you should watch that analysis again. You can literally see the background noise in the video rotating with the object's IR glare. The pentagon videos are actually a prime example of pilots not being familiar enough with how their optical and targeting equipment works. Even pilots are easily mistaken, as clearly seen by their stupefied "oh my god look, it’s rotating." Parralax, optical effects, and image processing fool people very easily. We are at the point where technology is just way over people's heads and the people operating it don't really understand all the mechanics at play. People have no clue how their iphone camera even works let alone a classified lockheed martin targetting pod.
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