Joz and Craig are really great together. Such fantastic camaraderie and gentle teasing. It’s quite wholesome to watch. John, if you could do these more than once a year, I’m sure we’re all eat it up.
Beautiful show with a very moving ending. The last 2 years have been tough and families have been either torn or strenghtened their bond. I'm happy for you you had the comfort you needed.
Thank you for doing this John, and it’s great to be a continuous sponsor of the show. Such wonderful surprise to see both Joz and you in your B&W Atoms!!
It’s an interesting interview experience. I think it would be great if you were there along with Greg and Craig and John. Would change up the formula and your questions would be welcomed.
Wow, this was well worth the wait! I thoroughly enjoyed this, thanks John! It was Greg Joswiak his best performance on the talk show imho. Graig was funny and insightful as always. Throughout the show their answers conveyed their passion and personal commitment to making great products, both to consumers and developers. It was more than a PR talk. I liked your last question and their answers. Never thought it would happen at The Talk Show, but you got me emotional at the last bit, pfff I felt that. Keep up the great work and can’t wait for your next podcast and your reflections on this WWDC…
These talks are so cool, John is great interviewer and hearing Craig and Greg's insight to their process always teaches me so many new things about these computers.
Congratulations on 10 years John! While I watch every year, I always forget and then get greeted with a nice surprise on my TH-cam home page after WWDC.. :)
I love that the audio is uploaded now and not just live recorded. The Talk Show Remote was amazing for the past 2 years, this in-person with better audio is a perfect addition to my podcast playlist!
Yooooooo that question with CarPlay Gruben got out was sooo good even apple execs got stuck!! Damn huge respect to the interviewer the way he twist the question so well
Amazing Show!! The only live session at WWDC this year. Also every time I visit Philly I’m convinced I’ll recognize you on the street but yet I never do… which is good because I’d probably make some sort of high pitched chipmunk sound inappropriate for a man of my age.
I initially thought it was just funny talking about settings because, who cares? But then I realized that this part was where Craig and Greg really showed us Apple's vision of creating a unified user experience that is simple, intuitive, and updated across its products. It's as if they're super confident that Apple customers usually have multiple Apple devices, and rightfully so because the past 2~3 years was all about going back to that simple philosophy Steve Jobs had when he came back to Apple: making things easy for the customers. Interesting conversation there. Well done!
Great Talk show! I am not the biggest fan of John’s but I do have great respect for him and the work he has done to the entire Apple community. Cheers to John Gruber and the legacy he created along with other indie developers and Apple pundits. I remember those Daring Fireball articles about what John C. Dvorak said or the other author who would go out his way to criticize Apple (even when Apple got something right). Anyways, it is good to see a grown man get emotional when gratitude fills his heart. Thanks John Gruber!
Personally, on a Desktop/Laptop environment, I think it's easier to navigate a grid view than a list view. So, I too prefer the old approach with System Preferences (now System Settings). And I would very much like a way to either switch between the old and the new one, or bring the old one back permanently.
I was listening to this without seeing the video at first. My ears perked up when Joz was talking about developers coming from all over the world and mentioned Indonesia, a country where I came from. Then I saw the video and understood why he mentioned that specifically. He's wearing a shirt made from 'batik', a cloth that is hand-painted with specific motifs that is a cultural heritage of Indonesia. And the one he's wearing is a beautiful one!
To be fair: The reason for fear wrt Macs back in 2017 was due to the *hardware* that Apple was selling at the time. Both Mac MIni's and the Mac pro models were *better* in the early 2010's than they were in 2017.
Cool stuff, thanks for doing this. Good to get the insight from the masters. Apple has been my go to since 2000 and I hope it is for many more years. Keep innovating! Side note to Johns comment: We must never go through another two years like we just did. There was no need for that. Peace.
25:00 to 27:00. Craig is excited about SwiftUI and a reference to some TV show, poor Craig says "Great Show". Obliged to say good things even if it not great.
Great discussion. I was however very disappointed with the iPad OS update this year - especially for non M1 customers. Watch OS was also disappointing.
The only thing the M1 got that the others didn't is Stage Manager, yet another multitasking paradigm rewrite for the OS. It doesn't seem like a big deal to me unless you're frequently docking your iPad into an external display I suppose.
4:51 iOS is designed so smooth with great animations that it forces the user to just disappear into the user interface and forget what they were up to.
Simple question for Joz: With watchOS 9 dropping support for Apple Watch 3, is Apple Watch 3 a product you recommend to customers today? And then just sit and wait for the answer. He's he head of marketing, and they only have a handful of products. I really would love to hear that answer. This is how you know-not that you should need more proof-that Apple has been run by bean counters since Jobs died. With the iPod touch, I'm sure it hardly sold. And because they planned to drop support, they pulled the product before WWDC. They've similarly done quick processor updates to the iPod touch right before a WWDC so that they could drop support for the previous generation. That seems reasonable. And dropping iPod touch altogether: no major sales lost. But Tim Cook wants to be in the smart wrist business competing against price points that Fitbit is hitting. And he's all about efficiencies, so they keep the ancient Apple Watch 3 in the product line instead of actually manufacturing a competing product at that price point. Is it a product they are proud of? They could make a much simpler product, something more in the line of a Fitbit tracker. But Apple does a lot more recycling of products than they used to, This is the first time I can remember a currently selling product not being supported with a new OS update. Apple brags about supporting devices far past what Android manufacturers do, but they are not supporting a currently sold product for the first time in my memory.
Awesome interview and production. Could someone pls explain Craig's joke about the tv? "Giant susan press guy... [...] Volume was the same?" Not getting it (sorry, i'm sure i'll feel stupid after someone explains it).
I think he said "giant susan prescott on the SOTU". Susan prescott manages developer relations at apple (or used to, I think joz mentioned it in last year's talk show) and SOTU means state of the union, it's sorta like a keynote for developers after the main keynote where they explain the development stuff. I don't understand what he meant by "volume was the same" tho. Probably volume was the same as the actual volume of the person? Idk what's funny about it tho
Joz and Craig are really great together. Such fantastic camaraderie and gentle teasing. It’s quite wholesome to watch. John, if you could do these more than once a year, I’m sure we’re all eat it up.
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Admit it: we're all here for Craig
I’m here for Joz’s laugh.
Craig's jokes and Joz's laughs
Nothing against Tim Cook, but I wish Apple had made Craig CEO. His charisma is similar to Steve’s and believe would have worked better with Jony Ive.
@@rtm135 Apple feels more safe in Tim Cook's hands tho. Craig is fun, but I trust Tim Cook more for serious decisions.
@@rtm135 Craig has said it would be irresponsible for him to be CEO. Some people just don’t want it
John thanking his wife and son was a great moment.
Agreed.
nah cringe
"I think that says it all." -Jos
@@the2ndwinner imagine using the word cringe on a basic talk show. get out
@@Lauren_Cat imagine replying to someone months later. Shameful
Beautiful show with a very moving ending. The last 2 years have been tough and families have been either torn or strenghtened their bond. I'm happy for you you had the comfort you needed.
Thank you for doing this John, and it’s great to be a continuous sponsor of the show. Such wonderful surprise to see both Joz and you in your B&W Atoms!!
Enjoyed it live, very much enjoying it again on replay!
It’s an interesting interview experience. I think it would be great if you were there along with Greg and Craig and John. Would change up the formula and your questions would be welcomed.
When do you expect to make an interview with them?
Me me me and me. World is not spinning around you and you are not that important.
@@Naz-h8z What are you on about?
Craig and Joz have such great chemistry. I could listen to them both all day long. Great interview!
Wow, this was well worth the wait! I thoroughly enjoyed this, thanks John! It was Greg Joswiak his best performance on the talk show imho. Graig was funny and insightful as always. Throughout the show their answers conveyed their passion and personal commitment to making great products, both to consumers and developers. It was more than a PR talk. I liked your last question and their answers.
Never thought it would happen at The Talk Show, but you got me emotional at the last bit, pfff I felt that. Keep up the great work and can’t wait for your next podcast and your reflections on this WWDC…
These talks are so cool, John is great interviewer and hearing Craig and Greg's insight to their process always teaches me so many new things about these computers.
waiting for the new one
Damn right we are!
Thanks for asking about Private Relay. I was hoping for a feature update around ad blocking or malware blocking.
Thank you John, Apple and everyone who helps get this show as great as it is.
A phenomenal issue, this year. And the last couple of minutes put me to tears. Well done, John and guests.
Congratulations on 10 years John! While I watch every year, I always forget and then get greeted with a nice surprise on my TH-cam home page after WWDC.. :)
I love that the audio is uploaded now and not just live recorded. The Talk Show Remote was amazing for the past 2 years, this in-person with better audio is a perfect addition to my podcast playlist!
I loved Craig's deadpan reaction to "No one has ever thought you were building your own car" at 1:07. Then Joz snorts.
This was the best wwdc talk show ever.
1:24:00 I never would have thought I would tear up watching a tech show. Wow. What a moment.
That was powerful!
John, the way you lead up to that apple car question was masterful.
... as well as the way they tip-toed around it. 🙂
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Great show! The reaction from Greg & Craig when it came to Apple making a car was priceless. The Apple Car is coming for sure !
I'm glad I was not the only one who noticed that 🤣
This was so genuine, I love how open Greg and Craig are. They’re not trying to market Apple they’re speaking true to heart.
Thanks to all of you who were involved in this... it has been a 10-year blast, here's hope to keep it going!
Cool talk! I was hopping to see Greg running to the stage in slow-motion
This is one of my favorite channels and it only posts once a year!
The whole show was great as always. The end was moving. ❤️
nah it was cringe
Yooooooo that question with CarPlay Gruben got out was sooo good even apple execs got stuck!! Damn huge respect to the interviewer the way he twist the question so well
Amazing Show!! The only live session at WWDC this year. Also every time I visit Philly I’m convinced I’ll recognize you on the street but yet I never do… which is good because I’d probably make some sort of high pitched chipmunk sound inappropriate for a man of my age.
I'm literally waiting for the talk show as much as WWDC, awesome as always.
💜 Thank you Gruber (and family!), Craig and Joz, and Adam not-so-lonely-Sandwich, since I’m watching this on TH-cam! 🎉
Finally took time to watch this year's edition, and... wooowww 🙂, thank you so much 🙂.
I initially thought it was just funny talking about settings because, who cares? But then I realized that this part was where Craig and Greg really showed us Apple's vision of creating a unified user experience that is simple, intuitive, and updated across its products. It's as if they're super confident that Apple customers usually have multiple Apple devices, and rightfully so because the past 2~3 years was all about going back to that simple philosophy Steve Jobs had when he came back to Apple: making things easy for the customers. Interesting conversation there. Well done!
the new setting seems like it's going to be much better, much easier to navigate. i see nostalgia is strong with john
This is such an excellent conversation. Thank you very much for sharing.
6:19
You're welcome
Great show this year… Thoroughly enjoyed watching it…props to everyone who worked on the production. Hope to see you next year!
That was really fun and insightful to watch, thanks John!
Been waiting for this video since last year
Also around 47:22 I think it’s really cool there’s a sign language interpreter 👍
Omg I was hoping they’d do this again I just finished watching the previous 3 interviews last week!
That apple car shade got me giddy (although I’ll never have it), that was such great way to phrase the question
Yay! Fotgot about this but happy to once again watch the talk show! Congrats on 10th anniversary
Man that ending 😢
The ipad version of stage manager not being developed as originally the same project makes a lot more sense
I was sleepy before watching this show and I was awake the whole time. Very interesting show! 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
Great Talk show! I am not the biggest fan of John’s but I do have great respect for him and the work he has done to the entire Apple community. Cheers to John Gruber and the legacy he created along with other indie developers and Apple pundits. I remember those Daring Fireball articles about what John C. Dvorak said or the other author who would go out his way to criticize Apple (even when Apple got something right). Anyways, it is good to see a grown man get emotional when gratitude fills his heart. Thanks John Gruber!
Craig gotta be the next CEO.
Best Talk Show to date.
48:22. I am a command-tabber Craig. The main question on Stage Manager is how well it will work for users like me who have fullscreen always.!
Thanks for uploading as always!
51:28
My Left AirPod: it’s *showtime*
I see that you had an ASL interpreter there. Would it be possible to have them in a window on this video or at least have captions?
This is the real deal! Thank you for the sincere contribution to the Apple brand and culture.
This is honestly my drug after every WWDC😮💨
Always enjoy these interviews after every WWDC
Personally, on a Desktop/Laptop environment, I think it's easier to navigate a grid view than a list view. So, I too prefer the old approach with System Preferences (now System Settings). And I would very much like a way to either switch between the old and the new one, or bring the old one back permanently.
Passkey is probably one of the biggest update, i hope google and microsoft works on it too, and most of website update to it!
Can we just say how freaking awesome Craig is?
Great Show John, Greatings from the Netherlands.
I was listening to this without seeing the video at first. My ears perked up when Joz was talking about developers coming from all over the world and mentioned Indonesia, a country where I came from. Then I saw the video and understood why he mentioned that specifically. He's wearing a shirt made from 'batik', a cloth that is hand-painted with specific motifs that is a cultural heritage of Indonesia. And the one he's wearing is a beautiful one!
Joz’s laughs are priceless.
Congratulations Jonas! Thank you, John for this interview.
To be fair: The reason for fear wrt Macs back in 2017 was due to the *hardware* that Apple was selling at the time. Both Mac MIni's and the Mac pro models were *better* in the early 2010's than they were in 2017.
“I think we clearly need to be regulated.” Regulators: It’s time to regulate big tech’s regulatory criticism.
Craig, wish to see u in the next season of Severance!!!!
What brand water bottles are those?
Great edit. Great host. Great hair by Craig and great messaging stuff from Greg
The production quality leap is enormous! A truly groundbreaking innovation.
Great show. Thanks John! 😀😀
Man, Craig has incredible charisma.
Cool stuff, thanks for doing this. Good to get the insight from the masters. Apple has been my go to since 2000 and I hope it is for many more years. Keep innovating! Side note to Johns comment: We must never go through another two years like we just did. There was no need for that. Peace.
John got access to a prereleased version of Keynote for that Live Background…Jelous.
I just love this show. I always wait for this show every year apart from the keynote. John is just so good and honest as a host. The best talk show.
I wish they would all stand up and start the chant, “developers,developers,developers………”
can we get that video background for a screensaver??
Absolutely Amazing. Such a wonderful job by you Sir. Thx so much 4 Posting.....😝👻👽👽👽
I always love to watch this show
Great show as always, thanks again John!
Best part of WWDC! Great video
1:02:04 I bet it was about MetalFX Upscaling, though AMD does have something like it in FSR 2.0
25:00 to 27:00. Craig is excited about SwiftUI and a reference to some TV show, poor Craig says "Great Show". Obliged to say good things even if it not great.
Incredible as always :).
That was amazing, thank you so much
Keep up the great work!
Discussion like these with the higher ups at Apple 🍎 are just so cool ⚡️⚡️
Thanks for doing this. Much appreciated.
Yesssss- though the remote ones were nice, it’s great to have the crowd energy back- love ya John!
Where can I get those water bottles?
The mac "dying" reminds me a lot of people saying Disney should kill their movie business when it's the engine that drives the entire company.
Great discussion. I was however very disappointed with the iPad OS update this year - especially for non M1 customers.
Watch OS was also disappointing.
The only thing the M1 got that the others didn't is Stage Manager, yet another multitasking paradigm rewrite for the OS. It doesn't seem like a big deal to me unless you're frequently docking your iPad into an external display I suppose.
What a home run John!
I like that you’re able to speak the problems and good stuff about the software. Most places it’s one or the other xD
4:51 iOS is designed so smooth with great animations that it forces the user to just disappear into the user interface and forget what they were up to.
Simple question for Joz:
With watchOS 9 dropping support for Apple Watch 3, is Apple Watch 3 a product you recommend to customers today?
And then just sit and wait for the answer. He's he head of marketing, and they only have a handful of products. I really would love to hear that answer.
This is how you know-not that you should need more proof-that Apple has been run by bean counters since Jobs died.
With the iPod touch, I'm sure it hardly sold. And because they planned to drop support, they pulled the product before WWDC.
They've similarly done quick processor updates to the iPod touch right before a WWDC so that they could drop support for the previous generation. That seems reasonable.
And dropping iPod touch altogether: no major sales lost.
But Tim Cook wants to be in the smart wrist business competing against price points that Fitbit is hitting.
And he's all about efficiencies, so they keep the ancient Apple Watch 3 in the product line instead of actually manufacturing a competing product at that price point. Is it a product they are proud of? They could make a much simpler product, something more in the line of a Fitbit tracker. But Apple does a lot more recycling of products than they used to,
This is the first time I can remember a currently selling product not being supported with a new OS update.
Apple brags about supporting devices far past what Android manufacturers do, but they are not supporting a currently sold product for the first time in my memory.
Start at 6:00
Awesome interview and production. Could someone pls explain Craig's joke about the tv? "Giant susan press guy... [...] Volume was the same?" Not getting it (sorry, i'm sure i'll feel stupid after someone explains it).
I think he said "giant susan prescott on the SOTU". Susan prescott manages developer relations at apple (or used to, I think joz mentioned it in last year's talk show) and SOTU means state of the union, it's sorta like a keynote for developers after the main keynote where they explain the development stuff. I don't understand what he meant by "volume was the same" tho. Probably volume was the same as the actual volume of the person? Idk what's funny about it tho
What is the time stamp for when Gruber mentions he went to Drexel?
Craig's justification for the System Preferences redesign is pretty embarrassing
Great show
This show will be great if this guy will lower there hate towards non-Apple devices.
You are very talented MacGruber