Ingmar Bergman and Andrei Tarkovsky - Visual Similarities
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- Visual essay on Ingmar Bergman and Andrei Tarkovsky.
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Bergman once said "To me, Tarkovsky is the greatest.."
I kinda have to disagree with him: In art, it's bad to say the" Best".......It's not a competitive sport, after all.
Having said that, countless times I have uttered the words " To me, Tarkovsky is the greatest..."
There's a huge difference between " *To me* he's the greatest" and "This is the best". You cannot be wrong when you're giving an opinion, but also, I do believe Tarkovsky was the best.
To me, Andrei was the best.
@@luismarioguerrerosanchez4747 Exactly, to me Kubrick is the greatest... but I understand why others think Tarkovsky, or Bergman, or Kurosawa, or anyone... some of the more popular choices like Nolan, Tarantino, Cameron, Fincher, Spielberg, Carpenter, Burton, etc to me are some of the best as well, or my faves.. more known to most.. but I have my opinions, and my faves, and no one can tell me different.. I wouldn't knock someone for saying "to me, Michael Bay is the greatest" I wouldn't agree, but I would respect their taste/opinion.. maybe film to them is spectacle, explosions, comedy, ridiculousness, over the top everything with crazy shots jammed with color... maybe that to them is peak cinema.. that's their opinion, and I respect it.
@@randomrecipes5007 I don't think you would respect it, I think you would tolerate it.
To a degree, but really it is important for artists to assess the quality of other art, and the more you can ground that in argument the better.
Is weird that even with both side by side, Tarkovsky still manages to pull the sense of dream-like worlds within our reality with cinematography while the other represents the oddities of the world and the beauty with it
To me the greatest two to ever do it, no discussions, no questions asked, they both are the masters for me.
@paul w with all due respect for bresson I believe tarkovsky took it to the next level transcending narratives to create poetry thats far more superior than anyone has achieved so far
@paul w yes true that bresson's minimalism liberated him to do very subtle things making the best use of cinematic language. Both tarkovsky & bresson both had their own vision and they done things that best bring out their artistic abilities :) so I felt comparing one with the other is like insulting them. Let's celebrate their works
paul w You can’t watch Tarkovsky’s movies with a narrative mindset like Bresson’s or Bresson’s movies with a poetic mindset like Tarkovsky’s. Imo Bresson is equal to Tarkovsky, but Tarkovsky is the one who truly liberated cinema as an art form into something uniquely its own. The thematic material in Bresson’s movies can mostly be reworked into great narrative literatures, but with Tarkovsky, that would be impossible. Even Bergman recognized this when he stated “Tarkovsky is for me the greatest, the one who invented a new language, true to the nature of film, as it captures life as a reflection, life as a dream.”
@@michaelwu7678 Not all of Tarkovsky films do that though. Both great regardless
Nah, If you look closer Tarkovsky was millions of miles ahead than any other.
Tarkovsky and Bergman's films are more of moving frames than films. Aesthetically Brilliant!
Beautifully expressed. Some shots can indeed be described to be giving exactly this feeling. Your words in my view precisely highlight Tarkovsky's monumentality in cinematography - which derives from the greek word for movement: kinema; his compositions have explored, discovered and revealed this specific dimension of the art - this specific use of movement - this specific human feeling in response to seeing in what forms and compositions movement can exist and express - so, so beautifully...
In those days, films were called motion pictures after all.
I love the non linear comparison, like an overlaying of melodies
Cinema is really the purest and most noble thing humanity could ever achieve.
calm down, nerd.
@@BruceWayne-zj1kw your name is literally Bruce Wayne you fucking stupid ass..
@House Of Fleapit Shut up, still great movies being made
I thought is was mathematics
@@sandippaul468 based and euler pilled
GOATs directors (untouchable list)
Bergman
Kubrick
Antonioni
Sergeo leone
Akira kurvasov
Fellini
Orsen Welles
Tarkovsky
Scorsese
Goddard
Malick
Kisflosvski
Visconti
Lynch
Ray
Hitchkok
Goddard, Lynch and Hitchcock don't belong on that list at all.
@@DanLyndon elephant man,
Eraserhead,blue velvet, mullholland drive , lost Highway gems of world cinema, if you had watched them you wouldn't have said so
Leone, Malick and some others of the list can’t eat at the table of the big boys.
@@DanLyndon agree 💯 about hitchkok
this is huge inspiration for me to continue watching their films. thanks
Beautiful always.... Interesting. We miss them. "Nous avons besoin d'eux, maintenant!". Today's cinema needs these directors for all the deep emotions they can create with only one shot
Dos maestros absolutos. Ambos se admiraban y se inspiraban entre sí, y gracias a esta admiración poética, muchos estudiantes de cine y realizadores autodidactas, también podemos inspirarnos con ellos. Regalo enorme hacia el arte. Sublime.
One little contribution: The sound of a sawing machine in the Touch of Bergman and the Nostalgia of Tarkovsky.
Beautiful, like a moving painting.
similarities yes, the same meaning no.
Los 2 mejores directores de la historia
I love how you wrapped all this up in Ólafur Arnald's Ágúst, great visual essay..
(1) Evocative, moving music. Who was the composer? (2) Intriguing: Swedish actor Erland Josephson played lead roles in both Bergman's and Tarkovsky's films! Josephson became a Bergman regular in the 1970's. (3) Two of the greatest filmmakers ever, without a doubt! Movies as art, a very apt juxtaposition. Thank you for creating this!
Josephson’s appearances for Bergman actually go back to the 40’s (at least It Rains On Our Love, though I could be mistaken), and was in dozens since, I believe he’s his most used actor. They were BFFs, too.
The beauty of these shots is insane. I could watch a video like this for hours!
Bergman was much more articulate and disciplined But Tarkovsky ruthlessly spears your soul with visuals unlike any other.
Man, that scene in “Mirror” when Maria beheads the chicken and stares at the camera. I have that scene in my head since the first time I watched it. It gets me in a very particular way.
Very perceptive. Thank you !
i woke up now and saw the video while having breakfast.
My day is already better
Me gustaría felicitarlo por su ingeniosa idea de comparar escenas tomadas de dos directores ilustres como Bergman y Tarkovsky por similitud. Supongo que también te gustan Kurosawa y Fellini ...

Le pido a venia mi castellano de hecho poco elegante y preciso! Colajanni Giovanni

The way you treat the clips of Bergman with such gentleness… makes me now see what makes him so remarkable. I FINALLY get Bergman because of you.
I wanted to say the same thing, I didn't really appreciate Through a Glass Darkly during my first watch (and I haven't seen Summer with Monika) but I actually teared up at 1:51 and 2:22 because the music elevated the essence of the scenes
Siray 2:22 is a great shot from Summer With Monika. But I’m excited to get to Through a Glass Darkly!
This is true of the cinema. More than every other director achieved...
Check out de Sica, Fellini, Rossellini, Antonioni, Truffaut, Godard, Kurosawa, Ozu. These are also the great masters who contributed mightily to the art of film.
Music: Ólafur Arnalds - Ágúst
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As kino as it gets
Gênios do cinema mundial
the influence was mutual, but the two wanted and did not imitate each other.
静謐な画面、美しい音楽、奇妙な主人公達、宇宙の中の孤独感…😔映画の中の映画❗☝️
Thank you 🇷🇺❤️
Tarkovsky said in his Sculpting in Time that he never imitated another artist, and if he did, he'd reshoot it. But that's impossible. Influences constantly seep into your sub-conscious. Obviously he was influence by Bergman. Who wasn't?
In one of his interviews he admitted that sometimes we'd see that a scene reminds of what one could see, for instance, in a Bergman's picture, and then we'd let it be just to shoutout his collegue.
Bergman too was heavily influnced by Tarkovsky, he learned a great deal from Andrei Rublev, which was his favorite of all time
Imitation does not equal influence.
when someone look at closely, there is something, so-called, new or pure.. at all. each work has been produced by each was.
Thank you. Absolutely beautiful
Maravilloso trabajo, Gabriel.
Meraviglioso.Grazie👋👋👋👋💖
Aunque no lo creas, el master Tarkovsky, no hubiera esta tan feliz, el nunca deseo repetirse de otro master. Lo dijo claro en una conferencia; pero si esto sucedía, él solo lo atribuye como algo inconsciente o una especie de tributo del que trataba de alejarse
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Vert Nice work...!!
Puestos a elegir entre dos maestros, Bergman lo hizo antes y mejor.
Amazing! Thank you.
this is how they communicate with each other
With all due respect, Bergman is no match for Tarkovsky in cinematography.
Sublime.
It's so beautiful. Thanks.
El mejor canal de youtube que he descubierto este 2020
Greatest masters of movie making
Gracias por darnos este regalo.
Good artists copy, great artists steal
Similar images, different meanings.
¡Le pido a venia mi castellano de hecho poco elegante y preciso! Colajanni Giovanni

Ahh poetic cinema✨️
Please credit the cameraman!❤️♥️❤️
Lovely
touching
wow. that brought tears to my eyes. how lucky we are to have these incredible movies. thanks again so much, that was a great video.
Well done!
Tarkovsky, Tarkovsky, Tarkovsky! Amazing.
Beautiful work.
Great job 👏👏👏👏 deserved more likes
You have done a great job
What is the point of this video? They are totally different directors.The only thing in common is that they are contemporaries and they are famous/great.
Why don't you make a video comparison with Lars von Trier and Sophia Coppola? Because you know... they are contemporaries and they are famous. and they are both art-house directors. If those 3 points were enough for you when you included Tarkovskiy and Bergman in one video , why wouldn't that be enough for Coppola and Trier?
Great video!
my two favorite directors
Beautiful
Génies !!! ART BEAUTE IDEES ....
the beauty of cinematography is unbelievable
Cuanta belleza junta! Amé este video!
Great minds think alike way
In 1979 Takovsky moved to Italy after having a falling out with the Soviet Film industry. He really missed an opportunity while he was there to capture rain in the Pantheon coming through the Oculul in the ceiling on film. We all know he loved recording indoor raining so why didn't he shoot in the one building that is designed rain indoors?
Tarkovsky is too extreme to be compared on cinema excellence wise.
Hermosa las cigarras.
which softwares do you use for editing this? (Love it❤️🙏)
Which Bergman film is it at 0:45?
Summer with monika
The biggest succes of tarkovski is be able to use long background sequence in the best way
well done!
Más que inspiración veo copia. La verdad hay que decirla aunque duela.
Two of the greatest.
Does anyone know where the last Tarkovsky shot is from?
The mirror
@@ЮлияЗабежинская Thanks a lot!
beautiful
The two pillars of cinema in my opinion. It was thanks to them and Kubrick that I decided to venture into auteur and art cinema and I have discovered other great contemplative teachers (such as Angelopoulos, Tárr, Bresson, Dreyer, etc.) and although I have enjoyed them I cannot help but feel that in their necessary asceticism they have let slip and lose a certain spark and spirituality that overflows with Tarkovsky and Bergman.
Did you see Parajanov's Shadows of our Forgotten ancestors? He is often compared with Tarkovsky. He spent 5 years in a gulag for making Shadows.
This video is what TH-cam was invented for.
THE TWO GREATEST TO EVER DO IT
What's the name of this music plz?
thank you !
Bresson is overrated. Bergman is the Shakespeare of cinema.
Have you watched Au Hazard Balthazar?
@@MrDebapriyaRoy yes, I have. My favorite from Bresson is Mouchette.
@@vodkatonyq Mouchette is a very nice movie as well. Do you really believe Bresson is overrated?
@@MrDebapriyaRoy a little, yes.
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Kahanha hanga
Nakakamangha
Kagilas-gilas.
Great video
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this is so good i cried
th-cam.com/video/Wfbkn21yvr4/w-d-xo.html what Tarkovsky movie is this?
The Mirror (1975)
Obvious
👍♥️
Whao:)
Big big Thanks
Great!!❤❤
Source on 0:55 Bergman shot?
Wild Strawberries.
Bravo!
Two masters
No pusiste los nombres 😭
which bergman film at 0:45
Summer with Monika.
1:23 Which Bergman films is this?
After the Rehearsal (1984)
@@Gar96229 Thank you very much!
Surreal