I'M SCREAMING AT YOU! - Redpill Debate Gets HEATED After Angryman Jumps In Against Destiny
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- Destiny debates Bernard Riley on his Fresh N Fit debate and Angryman jumps in in the end to debate and lock in a debate w/ Destiny...
Date: 12 Jan, 2022
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00:00 Teasers / Intro
01:40 Destiny hops into Bernard Riley stream to debate
46:33 Angry man jumps into debate
54:45 Aella talks w/ Destiny briefly about the debate before their talk
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@@JimRaynorSC so
Modern dating is akin to the prisoners dilemma.
There are almost 3 million nurses across America. The majority are women. Many of them are literally keeping patients alive. Yet that angry man said no one would care if women took a day off. All the acute patients and their families would care.
Plus most cashiers are females as well. Just simple things will close down because they think the world just run on man power.
He is a complete fool. Maybe he should look up the statistics of Black men that are “self employed” aka do very little to make the world go around. Or are just no longer being counted in the employment statistics. I think if anyone were to take a day off without anyone batting an eye, it would be someone just like him.
These idiots don’t think beyond there nonsense.
@@onesocialengineer I wish he’d take all the days off
Doctors keep patients alive not nurses 😂
Destiny’s ability to socialize with brain dead people for an hour for money is the most gangsta shit I have ever witnessed.
Factz!!!!! It’s embarrassing
Like literally
Gangsta asf ong💀
This. Yellow shirt guy is pretty dumb
Exactly, I was thinking the same thing. I wonder can he write it off on his taxes as charity 😊
Angry Man:
“I’m a tradition man”
“ I have three children on welfare”
🤣🤣🤣
🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂THIS THE COMMENT RIGHT HERE!
"I'm a conservative "
"Black men are oppressed" 😂
I can't believe a literal stereotype of an emotional man materialized at the very end like he summoned beetle juice
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I’m dead 😂😂😂
Man acts like a child while claiming all women act like children
Omg 😂😂😂😂😂 So true!!
He sure hit the ground running, that's for sure
"Sir, Im not emotional"
Man's name is literally Angryman
Its obvious a gimmick but you're too incompetent to see it
@@greasy8394 I don’t think incompetent was the right word there Lmao
Hmm … I wonder why he’d give himself that moniker???
@@jameschurch9618 oh trust me incompetent is the right word for anyone that goes to watch Destinies 3@990t videos
@@greasy8394 bro don't be a cuck just say the slur if you're gonna say one
"I'm rarely emotional" as the dude is screaming non-stop; bro literally exemplifying what Destiny was saying about red pill not realizing anger is an emotion.
ngl, id listen to him on a rap beat, he reminds me alot of m.o.p.
but in a debate, idk, its still pretty funny watching destiny ready to troll him.
Anger is an emotion but when you say "emotional" people don't think of anger. If someone says that the exam was so hard that I got "emotional". Most people would assume that the person started crying or whatever rather than that they got angry. Same as when someone says they got angry it generally isn't communicated by saying that they got emotional. It doesn't really matter if anger is an emotion or not when the way the word "emotional" is generally used doesn't include anger.
Not only that, anger is a secondary emotion, with feelings like sadness often being behind it.
@@shgalagalaa "Anger is an emotion but when you say "emotional" people don't think of anger." thats more of a societal problem and not a logical stance. the word "Emotional" SHOULD include every emotion but thats just how we evolved as a society. its frowned upon for men to cry and since there is a strong bias against women, when they show more sadness, "emotional" is used as an insult. The manospere wouldnt be able to thrive as much as it does now if the word was originally used to include all emotions and not just an insult to women.
@@zooweellama It doesnt matter what "should" be the case. What matters is how the language is used currently. You are free to try and change how language is used but before the change actually happens my statement remains true. Your whole response is just about being mad that a word is used differently than you would like. You arent saying anything. At no point was it a "logical stance". It was an objective look at how the word is actually used in language. You are free to think that it should be used differently but that doesn't matter.
Your conclusion that the "manosphere wouldn't be able to thrive as much as it does now..." isn't even a logical conclusion of your world where "emotional" includes anger as the people who believe in the shit that is being said can just use different wording to drive the same message. As they clearly do not consider anger to be a bad emotion to have there is no reason to believe that they would suddenly treat it the same as other emotions just because the word is suddenly being used "correctly"
How do the most illiterate, poorest, most incarcerated, least married, least employed group of males have the most entitled, and least to offer mentalities? 🤷🏾♀️
Lord help us. Who knows?
They were raised by women that look and think like you🤷♂️
Forcing traditional roles on women and submission. The Audacity
Bedwench please
@Paulos Kidane Come on she's not pretty enough to be a bedwench 🤣.She might pull a desperate methhead that's about it
As a black woman, this was a magnificent defeat! I love it! BLACK WOMEN - PLEASE OPEN YOUR DATING POOLS! I watched all of the ads too.
@@niratomas579 WRONG!
@@yourfavpersuasion9385 explain instead of just saying wrong like a child
@@niratomas579sorry to inform you but fuck boys exist in every race
Nobody cares that you're a black woman, and just because you're a black woman it doesn't mean that other black women have to listen to you.
Sit back and stay on code sis. Let the preferences stay clueless and steal these black “KaNgS”🤣🤣🤣🤣 in fact, we should encourage them to keep “taking our men”.👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
My wife and I have been married for 12 years and we just don’t have all these problems we see other couples having. The red pill community isn’t advocating or giving advice for healthy relationships they are advocating that men put on a fake persona long enough to get laid and just continue that cycle over and over again.
Well said
it's just grifting to make a buck...
@@aiauc agree 100%
Yeah they are just sex tourists/dating coaches labelling themselves as red pill. They confused the message about breeding. Its not about ploughing every field, its meant to be about ploughing the most fertile field. Finding a high level wife and having a relationship where u both treat each other like kings and queens,
We also need to take into account of the ages of these people, most are under 30. They are giving life advice while still experiencing life, its no different to college kids telling adults "how dare you" as if they know anything.
If ur going to take dating advice, try someone thats married with kids.
If you're going to take life advice, try somone thats failed a few times and then succeeded, u will learn how to fail and learn and how to rise above it when the chips are down.
Find a partner that loves your flaws, because thats what real love it, slowly accepting their flaws until its what u miss about them. Thats true love. Or my interpretation. Real love is probably more along the lines of companionship.
You are right. No one looking for a wife should listen to any of these clowns. BUT if they are looking to hook up with a random girl then they should definitely sine up to hustle university.
As a father of a daughter and a husband for 20 years, it seems that these manosphere men talk about women as if they are not people, but rather some houseplants that just need basic maintenance and are purchased from some store.
Absolutely!!! I've noticed -- men who have close relationships with their daughters are usually the main ones who can see how problematic these dudes are
@@MsOrganicBlack These dudes make it sound like I should force my daughter to become a surrogate mother for some alpha crypto millionaire and be happy to live in his basement.
@@MsOrganicBlack Exactly. My father always told me to find a soft husband who is a caregiver and nice to others. And when I look at these men, I just get the chill. They're honestly kinda scary the more you hear them talk.
Yep! And base level ones like a succulent. You forget about it for a while but it just needs the least amount yet stays beautiful for you. It's sad.
Lol..I don't even think these men can keep a plant alive.
"Men almost never act like children," he says and proceeds to throw tantrum.
As a BW, these conversations with the Redpill cult are exhausting and embarrassing. I wish they would hear how they sound, like crybabies. Nothing factual--pure emotion. Thank you, Destiny, for being patient.
It’s pretty sad and embarrassing. BUT. It’s the dialogue that’s desperately needed for him & men like him.
It’s like a mature man talking to a adolescent. Pretty sad
It's not red pill...this is bl ack male culture!
@@skylaellis two adolescents
"IF ALL WOMEN TOOK A DAY OFF NO ONE WOULD GIVE A SHIT" like bruh you're a streamer, if you took a day off no one would give a shit either
@@natediaz1863 It is a glass-houses point..
truee 🤣🤣
@@natediaz1863 his point is moot bro, mor0n
@@natediaz1863 It is a bad argument in the first place, just looking at medical field alone, would crumble if women took off since they make of 77.6 percent of the medical and social industry. His argument has no bases in reality in the first place.
@@natediaz1863 Common Nate L
Angryman sounds like a name for emotional man.
Can't be, according to them, men can't feel emotions since we are walking logic machines
low IQ man more like it
He didn’t say men weren’t emotional he said women act more like children
Or it can be the same tactic that destiny uses by dying his hair blue marketing ploys; in this case, can work both ways. Say your bias without saying… lol you get the point.
@@bonko86 😂😂😂
"Men rarely act like children!" as he screams like a toddler.
So if you had to deal with this from black men for an hour….can you imagine what black women and children had to deal with for decades?
AMYP6 That Part 💯💥
So 2 black men represent 25 million
Imagine thinking this is only or predominantly im black men only
BooooomMMM 💥🤣🤣🤣
@@KS-nd1pt yes. Absolutely yes
how can you brand yourself as angryman and also try saying you aren’t emotional? a human emotion is IN THE NAME
Well anger doesn't count because that's the man emotion, obviously.
To be fair destiny does the SAME THING while calling women the B word. Destiny really isn't much better
"it's not a tantrum, it's righteous anger!" or whatever memorised catch-phrase they use to deflect with
@@JM-gu7jx when and where does destiny refer to women as bitches? I’ve heard him say bitch about 5 times and I’ve watched every vid he’s came out with since 2016. Also calling a specific woman a bitch is very different than referring to all women as bitches.
@@JM-gu7jx also destiny’s name is destiny not bitchstiny.
That angry dude thought he was gonna make destiny his b****** but ended up pretty quiet at the end LMAO. I DON'T think he was expecting destiny to go in on him like that lmfao
Because he's abusive IRL and doesn't know how to handle pushback.
I recognize the behavior in my own dad.
It's fucking frustrating.
It’s time👨men stop being bullied by these sjw baby crying men lol
He just doesn't have debating skills.
@@iam8484 Because when your argument is based on delusion, you cannot win. The other person will always be able to beat your lie with a fact.
@@numerologicatarot3333 I agree with you, but he should still know how to present his b.s. correctly.
Holy shit Destiny is right, Angryman is the epitome of what is like to try to argue points with people who fail to see their own stupidity for the sake of only pushing their ideologies and ideas forward. Quite literally the line that makes arguments civil was crossed, and if it wasn't for the fact they were online who knows who bad it would have gotten. Guys like him is what literally turns people radical, extremist and even create conflict.
PREACH!! I debated my bf on these issues, and he finally conceited to the fact men need mental health and a better/healthier understanding on expressing their emotions. Women have their issues as well, for example we need to learn how to ingest male emotions and navigate how to help them deal with men's issues. There's certain things we won't understand on opposite ends, but if we change our society this shouldn't be that hard.
Dude, just the 20 minutes he was on, angryguy makes Red Pillers look like angry raging mad boys. You think Riley would want to get him out of there.
Correct, and yes, it absolutely does materialize in real life. The women that are a part of Angrymale's demographic have a fem icide rate that rivals that of 3rd world countries, and fast increasing. Crimes of proximity. They've been radicalized and absolutely are carrying out their rage.
It’s just an ego battle and he will never win because there’s no women there to stoke it.
@@PiNeAPPLeSaMa we don't need to ingest shit they got going on love! Other men need to ingest that and help they brothers out!
As a black woman, I want to say thankyou for this debate and exposing how toxic some of these black men are. A lot of black men are very emotional and can't have a calm debate without trading insults. Bernard Riley didn't listen and just chose to ignore what you were saying even though it made sense. There's something inherently wrong with a lot of these men. You've basically validated the issues we as black women have when trying to communicate with them.
yeah except that black women aren't exactly sugar, spice and everything nice. When WIll Smith smack Chriss Rock, A LOT of black women supported WIll's decision to smack that man because he was "defending his Queen". It seems like black women are quite okay with toxic behavior when its done for the benefit of themselves...so if we're going to make the convo racial in this way, lets be intellectually honest about it.
It’s not some is most if not all
@@onassi well I am nice with sugar and spice. I would never tolerate this.
@@onassi She’s absolutely correct. BW aren’t killing BM at a rate of 1 every 4-5 hours. BW aren’t hitting more nor are they more violent than BM. Just like the guy in the video you didn’t comprehend anything Destiny said. I guess I should applaud you for at least watching.👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@@onassi black ppp supported him. Not just women 😂
It’s very sad how many people never grow out of the “high school mentality”
Yep. The redpill is essentially the adult version of "boys rule, girls drool".
Yeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaah! You're so right!
same type of people that complain "the drama doesn't stop after high school".
@@Lizard1582 let’s be honest this channel de-evolved to a drama channel 😭😭
@@Themancom you can just say devolved, lil buddy.
The most perplexing thing about the manosphere is how they constantly accuse women of being too emotional. While sabotaniously Having such a cognitive dissonance to think that responding in violent ways or anger makes them sound rational.
Ah, but you see - anger is not an emotion!
@@labasjonai damn got me there.
Sabotaniously, you learn something new every day. Thanks for the big scary word.
Im not emotional, but if you make me mad, I'm gonna break all my toys and hit you.
Nigga made up a whole new word
These red pillers are giving "I didn't have a daddy" energy.
missfortune of being a black
They didn't. Bm only joined the red pill so that a man will take care of them, they literally want a daddy to care for them so they don't have to act like adults.
@@muhammadismailsheikh3790 😢
Nopn more like I can't control my self
Mixed in w some mommy issues Smfh
The main host guy was actually pleasant and good-faith. It's the angrymoron that stained the convo at the end. He wasn't just raising his voice, he came on fully offended, loud, belligerent and hurling insults. Child behavior.
The moaning this man was doing every time Destiny tried to have his turn in this conversation was unbearable to hear over and over especially coming from a grown man.. it was a literal example of a man being too emotional 😭
"Let's go point by point."
*proceeds to not go point-by-point when it's his turn*
I got the impression more than once that he was completely unaware that Destiny was responding IN KIND, and that his own arguments were multiples in a row like that. but probably when improvising rationalization a person doesn't think all the "supporting evidence" are actually separate arguments that become side-tangents when contested.
@@deckofcardboard Exactly 🤣
That’s how the majority of bm are.
That was one section. And that’s not being emotional that’s at worst being unfair to Destiny and at best trying to moderate the convo and make sure he can respond effectively. Stop being dramatic
Exactly he couldn't even sit and listen. Just childish.
Hearing Destiny's point about men sometimes being children, and then watching one man get frustrated over having to listen and another start screaming, is a kind of beauty I didn't know I needed to see
Look it’s time for people to stop walking on eggshells towards BM. BM can talk about crap about their own community yet they do the most damage to it. I’m tired of them and their bs. Please drag these men!!! Omg I would love to see it. As a BW, I will appreciate you exposing their ignorance and stupid rhetoric.
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I've seen BW talk shit about BM for the longest. KS came with the same message as you (that it was time for people to stop walking on eggshells towards BW), and BW hated him for it, to the point they celebrated his death
If the recognize they are the problem it means they will have to accept they are the solution. Its easier to b*tch & whine about women this women that! Lazy AF.
@@almy-qy1lf stop lying Kitten Heels was pushing for men to have relations with underage girls Taz Exclusives exposed him for it and so have others also BM are the ones that make colorist rap music calling BW ugly BM are the ones that are on the DL which is why more more BW are getting deleted by them because these men are miserable the Queen Maker Podcast already broke down the welfare system and how BM were ok with getting young women pregnant and leaving them to make it on there own BM are useless and BW need to stop having them since BM want to blame us for everything they need to stop having Blk sons because it’s not doing any good for the community we can’t even trust BM to lead they have been scamming and selling out their own ppl since slavery which explains the behaviors of the 5 officers that felt the need to take the life of a innocent man who also happened to be blk
"MEN CAN RAISE CHILDREN WITHOUT WOMEN ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS GET A SURROGATE WOMAN" - What a remedial worm.
Right like we don’t need women, we just need women 😂
Gold!
All women in the world? Whelp, guess all the male doctors and nurses can handle the whole hospital by themselves.
Exactly what i was thinking, i work in my local hospital and it's 80% women. It would be fun though to take a day off
Not to mention all the kids that would need to be cared and fed since women do the majority of childcare
Those men are stay-at-home manosphere TH-camrs. They have no regard for real world working conditions for men or women.
so more than 80% of K-6 students would need to be home schooled... this dude's logic is so flawed 😂
Also Customer service. There's a larger majority of women who work the phones for Customer support. I have three male coworkers in my call center and one is a manager.
"ADDRESS MY TALKING POINTS!"😡
My guy all I heard was yelling points. 😂
It’s satisfying the internet finally getting to see what it’s like trying to have a rational conversation with the average BM. This is not to say that all BW are easy like Sunday morning to deal with, some of us are indeed a handful, but this interaction is definitely the average BM.
Fact let them keep exposing themselves 💯
…they will have your head hurting trying to have a conversation
Yes....and actually think they are more logical.
Agreed.
Ong! They'll be the first to tell you your education doesn't matter then gon full r3tard with the audacity to engage in college- level discussions
Yep. Aren't BM infuriating? Ask any BW who has to deal with them.
Thanks to the internet the world can see what we’ve been knowing
Seems like BW should drop the dead weight, no?
@@readyornot27 --- AGREED. I already have. Best decision of my life. I would sooner leap into a live Volcano than date another one of them. The mammies can keep them.
You need to.lose that extra weight and start over b
BM are stuck on stupid!🤡
If angryman disappeared the world would be less annoying. Idk why he feels proud of the achievements of other men just because he has the same parts down there. He for sure doesn't contribute much to society so i don't get it
Same thing with being proud of your country imo. Maybe thats just because I'm german and people would look at me weird if I was but the concept of being proud of a place just because you happened to be born there doesn't make sense in my head.
You guve him too much credit. If Angry Man disappeared, no one would notice.
@@Slyfa187 I'm low-key pissed Germans can't be openly patriotic.
@Slyfa187 back before the internet, you interacted with the people around you making you feel proud to be apart of the community
@@idontgetthejoke4813 But what is there to be patriotic about? Definitely not our history, our politics have been whack for the last few years, and our culture is not that noteworthy or special. Our school system is fucked, we have to pay taxes up to 45% and the work ethic for many germans is just non-existing. I don‘t hate my country, I can‘t really complain that much when it comes to my personal life here but man we have a shit ton of work to do.
I hope Myron can reflect on the fact that he made a whole bunch of points and then wasn't "prepared" for Destiny to respond with a whole bunch of points
It would definitely be difficult for anyone who rarely gets any "real" pushback. Destiny has the advantage for sure against Myron due to difference in debate experience
@@graamdthe guy couldn’t even remember two points from destiny and I’m not sure he could have if he tried 😂
To be fair, he was legit learning on the fly, decided to take a leaf out of Destiny's book and start taking notes, and Destiny was being pretty aggressive and he wasn't getting pissed. That's why I hope for the guy, I think he's got potential.
People aren’t good at self reflection today without serious help.
I learned this this year
@@afrochikkin who's got potential?
A sincere thanks to men like DESTINY. You articulated so well lots of points women have tried to make forever. As a black woman I can say there is often violence and vitriol for the BW that want to speak out against the narratives lots of misogynistic black men especially have been speaking in public spaces online , in music etc.
The black man in this video was a perfect example of the ignorance, anti intellectual and aggressively off base rhetoric many black women and girls and even children are exposed to and have to live under.
I am glad these males are actively exposing themselves. I am glad men like destiny are taking them on and speaking truth to their manipulative and dangerous rhetoric. At this point I hope Black women gain the strength and foresight to see that this needs to be tackeld and dismantled by us not allowing it to go unchallenged and played out for the future generations of especially black women and girls.
They got mad at the color purple cause it told the truth about them from blk women prespective many of them too scared to punch up so they just punch down. Now they are showing the world just how true "The Color Purple" is to their actual behavior.
As a black man I agree with destiny
Same bro. Dude is logical , these blk dudes are lost AF. Destiny effortlessly destroyed these dudes.
On the behalf of black women…we have voted to keep you. The others can leave.😂
I don’t understand these guys who want a woman that’s gonna follow them around like a puppy dog. I want a woman with some fire that’s actually going to be an equal partner.
Because they want sex dolls not women.
😂😂
Right? It's rather disrespectful to not be liked for who you are, which is what triggers these guys who claim they don't want a woman who will treat them like a wallet but proceed to date women who have the exact traits and qualities of the predator they just talked against. These guys really be contradicting themselves in the same breath, it's amazing how they claim they're sane.
That sounds awful lol
Truth be told, there are women that want to be in that role, same as some men, they want to be the puppy in the relationship. That's just how people are. The one thing that has me baffled and most of the online community as well is the fact that destiny is a girl's name
Angryman is extremely emotional
I'd expect Angry Man to be emotional... being an angry man and all. 😆
The name definitely checks out
I like angry man he's suppose to be emotional
@@stophavingkidsoutofwedlock2981 Well that would be fine if they weren't claiming they aren't emotional.
@@Ayommari 😂
So basically, if you're not drop-dead gorgeous, then you should be ok with getting bare minimum treatment. This has to be a joke, right .He keeps saying these basic women want over and beyond treatment
He’s 💯 % serious. If you get near one of these guys. Run 🏃🏾♀️
That mentality is toxic and extend to earning capacity - if you don’t make good money you deserve no respect.
He really thinks doing more than making money is going above and beyond
I was screaming internally every-time homeboy interrupted Destiny in his response. Like stfu,….if you only wanted to hear yourself speak, you should have done a monologue stream
Tbh most of Destiny's 10 points were really just 5 points repeated over and over. Is it really that hard to understand that someone can get frustrated about that ? That Bernard guy really made some good points and Destiny was trying to evade that by changing the focal point of the conversation constantly
It started with Destiny saying men need to be more emotional with women than they were before but he doesn't actually substantiate that as the other guy said. Destiny assumes that traditional men weren't dealing with the emotional needs of women and themselves which is a hard thing to prove or disprove for anyone right from the get go
When Destiny said that men on women violence in abusive relationships is a bigger problem, Bernard brought in data to prove the opposite and what was Destiny's response, "Well it's not like women can cause actual damage" like bro wtf, that doesn't make it ok 💀
Destiny was backtracking on the points he was trying to make so fast because he knew he was being cornered with this stuff. Destiny debates well but he made the mistake of believing that Bernard would be the typical ideologue for the redpill like Fresh N Fit and that was disastrous for him
@@namanbajaj5650 no one cares about your dissertation. Goodbye…
@@namanbajaj5650 sthu you sound dumb, they were the one who repeated not des.
@Naman Bajaj no Bernard did not understand the numbers. Destiny was asking for the numbers that Bernard was using. If he was pulling numbers that represented 5% of the black population, then he could not say that women can't control their emotions because that group was too small. Destiny did not proceed because Bernard did not understand half of what he was saying.
As a fan of yours and a blk dude, I think you did the right thing and just got off. The dude was just waiting for you to say something. Also yelling and trying to be hard that guy just lost me! Good job man big fan
Agreed. It’s a lose/lose situation. Angry man reminds me of some wrestling promo shit lol
If Angryman is the representative for the black male mansphere, this is embarrassing for black men 🤦🏿♀️
Tbf Angryman is more like a "Red pill" man. Plenty of white men in that community are the same way. Angry as hell and mad at women
Destiny, these men are really a problem and you shouldn't have to hold back if they are insulting you.
It just makes him look better though. Honestly these guys aren’t worth talking to
"how am i emotional" -angryman
Tier List Destiny Villains:
1. Nick F
2. Hasanabi
3. Vaush
100. AngryMan
I'm surprised he made the top 100 🤣
Mr Redacted would like to have a word.
@@jeremyking9094which one :)
Lol genius 😂
I didn't know hasanabi was so high
The BM don’t have the range and emotional intelligence for such conversation. If they speak to and cut Destiny off I can only imagine how they treat the women in their lives. Sheeesh
Why did he bring up surrogate mothers when that’s still a woman carrying a birthing a child. Why did he bring up someone watching and taking care of a child when that would be a woman. Why did he bring up boarding school when majority of teachers are women. He def came up very emotional, not even grasping everything he is saying he doesn’t need a woman for he would then just go out and seek a woman in that profession to do so?? Owee idk if they don’t have enough oxygen going to their brain or what.
I was waiting for destiny to asked if the surrogate was a man or woman
These males are so unintelligent and they wonder why women won’t listen to them. 🙄
Because they are stupid
It's embarrassing
The Angry man should be the face of men who women should avoid and not procreate with. What a waste man!
Unfortunately they have wives. As the other one said. His woman likes the way he treats her and likes that he's better than her. Wtf
i like how dude comes on yelling about men taking the day off the world will collapse. Yet homeboy is sitting at home lounging and not fixing pipes or building anything.... lol
His name is literally "angryman"...hahahaha
Not just that. Needing a surrogate requires Needing a woman. So if the men are babysitting the surrogate children how are they able to also run the rest of society?
@@bunchielove6893 well i think he wants a woman babysitter. I doubt he would be home taking care of the children.
BLACK MEN WILL KILL EACH OTHER JUST BECAUSE YOU GAVE THEM A "BAD LOOK".
Mistakenly step on the 👞
Blame black culture for that cuz I agree
The worst attitudes
Bruh, if all women took time off at the same time, Hospitals would stop, most schools and uni's would shut down. It's so strange that grown people still focus so much on Men vs Women when both are playing on the same team
How many men does this guy think can afford a surrogate mother?
“Men rarely act like children”
- he said calmly
Your value as a man should NOT be tied to a woman needing you.
These red pill dudes are so obviously bad faith. They have zero interest in anything that is said by those who disagree with them. Their own cognitive dissonance prevents them from facing facts that don’t support the conclusions they already hold. 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️Destiny’s patience is incredible
I agree first saw him when he was discussing k.rittenhouse w/ like 6 other ppl and he did fantastic dispelling incorrect info.
They disagree with all truth because they are satans spawn
That was the most emotional man I'd ever seen lmao
I actually appreciate Destiny arguing on this topic because the INCEL / Redpill community talks a lot of "old fashioned shit" when discussing dating strategies but the reality is they know fuck-all. It boggles the mind that anyone would listen to these guys who don't appear to have healthy relationships, are terminally single, or are just looking to hook-up.
Its always the same old talking points (men need to be leaders, men need to be high value), always talking at a high level, none of which applies to the average person trying to get a date.
I'm an older man who has seen his fair share of relationships and I just worry for the rhetoric being shilled out by the "manosphere" to our young men. "Redpilling" these young dudes is not helping them or society and the more that figures like Destiny speak out and argue against this stuff, the more chance these young men have.
I thought the Bernard guy was insane and then "Angryman" joined and Bernard all of a sudden was normal.
How is he insane? At least he is able to have a conversation and respond to what destiny is saying.
Bernard was pleasant but misguided. Angry man is a legit chud. Made me feel embarassed to be a man.
Yeah tbh I think Destiny was running for the hills at some points trying to defend himself against Bernard because he was making some good points.
Destiny said that men need to be more emotional in the modern world. Fair enough, but that would require him to show evidence that that didn't exist before and that men were abusive. He didn't really do that and just admitted he made a generalization that he's still going to plant his feet firmly on
When he raised the point that women suffer at the hands of men in abusive relationships, the Bernard guy actually came back with data to support the opposite. At this point Destiny was scrambling for anything, so he said "yeah but what physical damage can a woman really do ?" Like how does that matter to the argument ? Destiny in trying to prove men need to up their emotional game didn't realise that the data Bernard brought shows women aren't much better at controlling this in abusive relationships anyway. So it's a moot point and that's what Bernard was trying to argue.
To be honest, Destiny was losing this debate partly because he wasn't trying to have an honest debate with this guy. He assumed that just because Bernard was redpill, he'd be the mouthpiece for Fresh N Fit which was absolutely not the case.
Had Angryman not jumped in and shit all over the whole thing, Destiny would've probably lost the debate after running around in circles running out of strawmans
God that angry dude’s first claim about the world stopping made me face palm. The ignorance 🤦🏾♂️
It’s beyond ignorance. It’s deep delusion
He would be the same dude that cannot even find his car keys without a woman showing him where it is.
He sounded so stupid and embarrassed himself😢
Angry Man gives me sassy 💁♂️ 😂
He’s definitely on the dl
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😂😂😂😂
Zesty for sure
How does Destiny ONLY have 600k subscribers??? This guy is a MACHINE…. He needs more eyes on him.
He will 2023 will be his blowup year
Suppression due to not being a hyper-partisan hack. You can tell hes been trying to course correct lately but no amount of hair dye or uncharitability will garner him any favor at this point.
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He doesnt blame women for everything. That's not trendy. Men make up the majority of the viewers who watch this kind of content. Women tend to steer clear of this side of YT entirely.
@@marketables they steal clear because it's offensive to them.... Just like men stay clear of pro women channels that talk about men
I’m proud of destiny for growing and not just throwing insults out like he use to when he played league
I miss those times
We need Nebraska Steve back from time to time
@@viziontrex to be fair they were both being civil. if angryman threw out insults he would have too
Lol, it's only becuase he would be canceled if he did
@@beebah90 because Destiny has no good comebacks. He's fans live him too much to be "canceled". He was just called racist by the biggest black creator on twitch we're all still here.
The way they talk about dealing with their woman's emotions. They make it sound like an absolute chore
They are scared of emotions& do nit know how to deal with it. Its a chore cause they are not emotionally intelligent & it makes them feel inept.
All we have to do is look at how men act towards each other in jail to determine exactly how they will act if women dissappear.
The debate was actually very calm and productive till the other guy got in there
Destiny needs to bring his own surprise guest tomorrow. Annalicia.
@@ubuu7 Chill, no need to nuke the entire landscape 🤣.
@@ubuu7 she is unbearable to me but that would be awesome
Destiny was more adversarial than I would warrant imo. The guy was patient and good faith, but destiny was a bit too notepad for this conversation. Though still good to keep notes for the various talking points, I dont think he needed to run down all the points every time. Just makes the other guy's audience think Destiny is the enemy rather than more enlightened.
@@ubuu7 what happened to annalicia i miss her
Imagine claiming to be this perfectly stoic, non-emotional guy-because that's what "real men" are, or something-while calling yourself "Angry Man".
Someone doesn't understand what a joke is
LMAO!
This is literally MOST black men. This is coming from a BW
Destiny please keep challenging the Red Pill not only is it entertaining its needed for these peoples audience need to hear their ideology be challenged. Great Job keep going on these shows I think your contribution is so important for the young people who listen to them.
The screaming guy at the end really popped in like "a new challenger approaches", had me rolling
Never heard of these 2 and somehow they think Destiny was scared of talking to them 🤣
“My woman wants to follow my lead, etc etc”
yeah because you wouldn’t want to date a woman who would want a more equal role in the relationship.
we aren't equal
@@Kurio71 not in every respect but you just want to ignore the areas we are equal because you want to blame someone for your problems. Lazy AF
@@keaco73 problems?
@@Kurio71 brain?
@@keaco73 Keith, you sound like a child
Thank u Destiny. The world truly wouldn’t believe BW if we told them what we endure. Now they see and hear it for themselves.
Wow Angryman and his crew of bandits are beyond ridiculous
"I'm not emotional, you know that sir" - a guy who named himself Angry Man
You gotta do a debate with Donovan Sharpe. I just watched the Soscast with Adam46, and I swear to God, I never thought in all my days that we need Andrew Tate back. These budget Andrew Tates are even worse than the real one.
He's already tried Donovan denied it like over a month ago
donovan is scared
Donovan has been around way longer than Tat
@@natediaz1863 nah tate doesnt identigy himself as redpill.He just has alot red pill thoughts.
Donovan is the cope village elder. At least Tate, for all his cringe and flaws, actually lives the red-pill HVM lifestyle (at least superficially). Meanwhile, Donovan lives the call-center shift-lead lifestyle: married to an older, obese, prior single-mother. Looks like he watches the game every Sunday after picking up his wife's Maxipads at Walmart. He lives the most blue-pilled lifestyle by the red-pill definition of the term and he wants to talk a mountain of shit? Cap-o-matic.
You know how the Manosphere says "Don't listen to what women say, watch what they do." Well how about, "Don't listen to what Donovan says, watch what he does."
Myron is embarrassing 😒 He did all that rambling but kept interrupting Destiny. Destiny sat there and listened to his ignorance without interrupting him.
I'm at 39:04 and I have to say, in my 40 years of life, I have never used the word "comply" when talking about my relationships with women. These dudes are lost lmao
Destiny is dropping them facts man.these dudes were clownish bro. I'm a BM and this sht was annoying af to watch and u definitely can't say much because it'll automatically be seen as insulting.
I got irritated watching the last few minutes because these dudes r ignorant and don't wanna change..ur intellect is golden ⭐💯tht was hard to watch. U did the best u could tho.✊🏼
It’s funny how 20 of these men gotta go against one man and still loose
Hi Destiny, I am so sorry you had to go through this as it's very frustrating. Let me tell you the underlying issue. These men don't like black women, therefore nothing you say that shows them in any bad light or black women in good light will ever go well. They'll always deflect from it. We can talk about how we're not majoring in basket weaving or art and show them real statistics that shows the opposite of that they simply deflect and want to focus on us twerking in churches and how we're such hoes. We're hoes but they are teaching men to pump and dump with us and then we hit this proverbial wall. BM don't make sense and they contradict themselves at every turn and why? Because they do not like us. Instead of saying, we don't like black women and we're failures in our community they simply choose to deflect.
Girl I’m so glad none of these men are checking for me! Please don’t.
Pretty much
Exactly. Everything he said, especially the derogatory comments, was about BW. Argumentative and physically combative. More violent than men?? Smh. 🤦🏽♀️
He really took one for the team!! 😢
Do women say pump and dump? This is sussy, but let them j each other off all day.
The fact that BW have to come to a WM’s channel to hear a man talk sensibly about the truth on the dynamics between men and women….🤦🏽♀️. I’m not just speaking as a person with a few degrees when I say these dudes have no valid talking points and would gain 0 points in a moderated debate. Destiny has patience because once you say 2 things that you have not actually done your research on, I’d send you to your equal because she is not in my vicinity.
Best thing about destiny is he is helping bring debate to younger people, Inviting a nuanced stance to be expressed and that helps us when we go to talk to people in our own lives about these topics.
Definitely! Wished I had someone like this growing up (internet didnt really exist :/) lol
Dudes come in yelling calling people emotional 😂😂😂
I could listen to Destiny talk all day. He's emotionally intelligent and respectful.
Agreed 💯! His intelligence, quick wit and communication style is sexy AF too which completely goes against what Redpillers think about Women, especially BW. You don’t have to be a bully or gangstah to be sexy or desirable.
Angryman "dont use shaming tactics with me Destiny" and then continues to say that Destiny is acting like a woman lmaoo.
on the whole women like a leader thing, when i talk to female friends and read all-female forums, I DON'T think thats what *most* are looking for. And I think Myron confuses COMPETENCE, with a BOSS. Women very much like COMPETENCE. that hasn't changed. and competence will show up sometimes in you being a good leader sure, but sometimes it means being a good team player, not necessarily the director. We want men we don't have to nanny. This doesn't mean I want to defer to your judgment all the time. I respect my husband, and i respect him because he's competent. He also happens to be a pretty good leader at work. But at home, I don't like being barked orders at. And sometimes when he goes with my input on something over his own, i REALLY appreciate that. and if he ever tried to say "at the end of the day, its my decision"...on something that impacts both of us? oof, we would have problems. on things that impact both of us, we mutually talk things out to hear each others reasoning and we try to let the better reasoning win.
No i dont want a man to control me or tell me what to do. I just want a man thats competent. theres a biiiiig difference.
It makes me think these men never had or seen a successful relationship. My parents have been married for over 40 years & together for over 46 years. My dad is what they would describe as alpha. He makes good money & my mom is a housewife. My dad worked over 16 hours a day but when he got home & he saw my mom needed help. He would help her. Successful relationships are more egalitarian that they give it credit. If you are working towards the same goal with someone who shares the same values, you trust them to make decisions.
@@beewest5704 yes exactly. Love to hear it about long successful marriages too, Bless them :)
38:16 we like men who are in control of themselves not attempting to control us. We do not want or need a leader. We’ve been leading ourselves just fine. As a formerly married woman for 20 years. We’ve been leading y’all very well for a long time.
Also by him saying men are emotionally available because they let women “dump all their problems in them” and “listen to their shit” sounds so emotionally unavailable to me. Sounds like you’re just viewing it as something to put up with instead of something you empathize with and care about.
He’s not even interpreting the term properly. Being the recipient of someone else’s emotional spillage like a bucket doesn’t mean that you’re emotionally available. Lmao! 😅
It was so irritating that the other guy kept trying to speak over you after you let him talk and get all his points out and respectfully waited for him to finish before you spoke. I wanted to hear both sides and literally everytime yoh spoke he would start huffing, talking, and at times yelling. His actions alone proved your point to be correct.
Exactly! They don’t know how to have a conversation better yet debate.
Black men don’t have etiquette when speaking to anyone
Destiny now feel what some black women go through when trying to have a intellectual conversation with some of the brothers - want to pull your hair out. 1:00:19
Unfortunately a lot of BW don't get to live to see another day if they try to have an intellectual conversation with them. It's very scary and depressing.
Weren't these men raised by black women?
@Ray Lin at some point when men become men they stop listening to what their mothers told them when they were little. Are these men still little boys?
@Ray Lin also are these the men raised without fathers? Fathers play a role in raising their children too but it's the fathers who can't stand pressure of raising sons and run away. So easy to blame the other parent who stayed with the child. Also there is a certain age when boys rebel against the morals taught by their parents and they start to identify and desire to be amongst other boy peers and are highly influenced by them.
My god, Riley & Angryman are incredibly terrible at debating...They come across as uninformed, ignorant, and confrontational. If I hear the word "quantifiable" one more time as a mask for intelligence, I'm going to scream louder than Angryman's search for masculinity.
"Men dont repress feelings, they just walk it off" - 🤡
Lmao 🤣 dude doesnt understand thats the same thing if the person isnt PROCESSING shit and is just taking a walk until hes less angry. Smh
I love that Destiny took notes on what the guy is saying. I also admire that about Myron because it shows that they are genuinely trying to understand and remember what the other person is saying, and making sure they cover all of those points. It's also a good way to make sure they don't misquote anyone and ensure no misunderstandings happen.
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The problem is that most men don’t actually have any confidence. This is why people care so much about open relationships. Anybody who doesn’t want to be in an open relationship is simply just jealous and insecure and knows that they can’t keep a woman’s attention if they aren’t tying her down. The moment she has a taste of a real man, they know that she will leave because they don’t provide any real satisfaction.
I love the irony in Destiny saying a paycheck isn’t enough anymore and the red pill answer is ok…. So make bigger check
Let’s be honest, girls standards aren’t really that high. The only reason it seems that way is cause people are talking to them on tinder and ig.
The problem with that red pill answer is.. 99% of men won’t be able to hit that answer. I’m not saying that self improvement is bad and red pill content is all bad. But people need perspectives on how to maintain good relationships not just hook up culture.
@@ericc7286 I imagine the typical red pill enjoyer watches a lot of content and takes zero action cause “what’s the point? They only want 6 figure chads”
@@glocktaviousmaximus very true. I make 60k at 25 and I feel completely confident in myself around women which is ultimately what they seem to be the most attracted to. Feel like a lot of these dudes set themselves up for failure by thinking women only want hyper-successful men as the other commenter pointed out above me.
*You ppl need money to get women? Sucks 4u. I've gotten box on my brokest days. The RP is for self improvement not smashing h03s. You don't need the RP community to know the truth about women. I already knew most American women were shitty since I was 15 with the help of my parents who were there when feminism started. Guess they were right. Now we got blue-haired white dudes defending two Generations of the most atrocious women in human history. Good luck. I was pre groomed for this so none of it really effects me. I have women who extremely loves me and who extremely hates me because I know the truth about them*
These "Red Pill gurus whole shtick is targeting young men who have been hurt. Whether they've been hurt by an ex lover or thier mother, anybody that has had healthy experiences with women would never fall for any of that shit.
DESTINY, IF THEY INSULT YOU-YOU INSULT BACK. THEY GET PERSONAL, YOU GET PERSONAL IN RETURN. ALL IS FAIR IN WAR!
He used to do this but hes tried to grow above it.
Bloodsports destiny is a thing of the past
@@harryb12993 I feel you! Ignorant people don't understand when you're trying to take the high road. They'll just keep insulting you, but I guess.
Angryman happens to be angry... It's wild to me that people actually get on like that
blueballs will do it
I think it’s a good reminder to colonizers why and how they took over black men on 4 continents. They saw the mental weakness (in most not all).
This sounds like conversations that will be held by the permanent underclass. Productive people do not talk like this. People who are SECURE with themselves do not speak like this...
I'd hate to be them or be partnered with them... The future isn't looking too bright for these types or anyone who chooses to entertain them and their garbage. Just saying. 🤕🤕🤕🤷🏾♀️🤷🏾♀️🤷🏾♀️
They are so boldy foolish to NOT see how HORRENDOUS these optics are.
Maybe these men need to have this constructive criticism from somebody other than black women. Maybe white man who these men want to be like, can give them the leadership they need as opposed to hiding Pearly's skirt🙄
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That might be true but many of them are well educated, allegedly.
@@jaeshasway some woman did their work
@@COJAMALIK Not sure what you mean. My comment was regarding the men in the permanent underclass, specifically BM in the Redpillsphere. I wasn’t referring to BW.
Every red piller I've met says the same thing when they argue... "Hey man you just haven't gone past the 30 second clip on TikTok! There is so much more to the red pill space! You just got to dig deeper..." Does that really matter though if when 95% of the people who view your content or claim they are red pilled don't "dig deeper"?