EPIC? - DarkShadow (T) v Morthada (P) on Tau Cross 1.1 - StarCraft Brood War REMASTERED 2019

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  • @lassesipila6418
    @lassesipila6418 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Players commented on the MC ability to be overpowered if it can open alien tech trees to Protoss players, before BW was published, but Blizzard replied that if you have the economy to rock two tech trees in any meaningful way, you've already overpowered your enemy, anyway, so it was left in.

    • @KaiserMattTygore927
      @KaiserMattTygore927 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This.

    • @ryapowa
      @ryapowa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Well you can't argue with that logic

    • @hihihihihello
      @hihihihihello 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ryapowa seems like at really 70% but lets say 50% of pro games come down to huge army max supply fights, and in that case switching your economy supply into an alien race and using them for probe count instead of your main race, hence you have a bigger fighting army...it can become really strong i just dont think players have utilized it enough. i see alot of games also where theyre sending countless drops of dark templar hi templar storming workers reaver drops, if you can pull those off during those max supply fight games- then it makes sense that you can mindcontrol steal a worker..its just not being utilized. its very strong and basically guarantees protoss a win in a long game if they use it i would say. if youre on 150 fighting army supply fighting a 200 fighting army supply 50 terran worker count player-youre going to lose hard.

  • @524silverstripes
    @524silverstripes 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Morthada is ready to kill the Overmind with that mixed army

  • @levil3409
    @levil3409 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Why the question mark? Arbiter recalling a bunch of tanks in siege mode is definitely epic! :D

  • @jimtan1990
    @jimtan1990 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    falcon,15:10,when the Dark Archon unload,it doesn't have enough energy to mind control,so he had to get bak his ass back to shuttle

  • @ganqqwerty
    @ganqqwerty 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    at 27 minutes Morthada just went out to eat something, it seems

  • @sarahd2623
    @sarahd2623 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Mind controlled terran armies should totally get a protoss shield. Merge those technologies!

    • @ryapowa
      @ryapowa 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe if they reduce the units HP/Hull, otherwise it really would be overpowered

    • @sethiddings7293
      @sethiddings7293 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Or if they get all 3, tanks fire zerglings

  • @CallinWire
    @CallinWire 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    22:59 "And what are we producing here?"
    *sees 8 tanks queued"
    "Just tanks."
    XD

  • @lampshade5449
    @lampshade5449 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It wasn’t a match between equals. It was just a pro deciding to at last relax and enjoy some slow and long humiliation of an amateur. That explains the murthada’s apm swings between 900 and 90.

  • @21211q
    @21211q 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    With an APM like that Morthada is on stimpack I guess o.o

    • @majermike
      @majermike 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      smoke weed everyday

  • @DeusEversor
    @DeusEversor 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Original terran had still a chance to come back, toss guy was being negligent because of perceived superiority and supposed win, too bad he had no reserves

  • @ganqqwerty
    @ganqqwerty 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    it's funny that the dark shadow had a spider mine near the command center of the morthoda right of the bat, so he scouted it right from the beginning

  • @brian27610
    @brian27610 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    those 2 dark templars at the start could've done way more damage if the toss player had better micro.. like attacking the comm satt/missle turrets while they're being built

  • @MrAlexMercer101
    @MrAlexMercer101 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you falcon for this T v T ;)

  • @Alkex0
    @Alkex0 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Excellent stuff! Mind Control is definitely one of the best abilities in the game (or, at least, the coolest).
    +1 in favour of this getting an Epic tag. Good stuff, Falcon.

  • @arikasowitz
    @arikasowitz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I'm up to the DT rush part, and man, I have to wonder why he didn't go straight for the tanks, and just the tanks. SVC kills are nice, sure, but it's even nicer to have nothing to attack you when scan eventually kicks in. And nothing to keep out other troops. GG.

    • @u924hhwe
      @u924hhwe 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Idk tbh, if it were me I would try to deny the ComSats from being completed and then continue killing SCVs. Of course I would kill the SCVs that are building turrets as well to deny vision of the DTs as much as possible. But Idk because its been a long time since I played Broodwar and I never really used DTs too often. Usually I would use High Templar or Reavers with Shuttles when I want to kill some workers.

    • @majermike
      @majermike 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      cuz they are newbs

    • @teddyruxpin3811
      @teddyruxpin3811 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      i don't think he wanted to end the game then and there. i think he was just messing with his opponent.

  • @kurzackd
    @kurzackd 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nice game with that display of mind control and all, but it really should have ended as early as 7:30 when those DTs walked in undisturbed and without any possibility to be detected.
    How the fuck did Morthada not win right then and there? Did he not want to? :D

  • @CFBDeepDives
    @CFBDeepDives 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Morthada could have won in 15 minutes

  • @singerkgreen
    @singerkgreen 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Falcon Paladin > Artosis

    • @FalconPaladin
      @FalconPaladin  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Whoah I dunno about that, but thanks, Keith. :D

    • @singerkgreen
      @singerkgreen 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FalconPaladin it's about relatability for me. I like that you don't know everything and get excited about (insert spoiler here). Also it's just you monitoring the whole game on your own. Keep up the good work.

  • @zeed54
    @zeed54 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    protoss player could won easy at the beginning if he destroyed the comsat station with his DT

  • @SirRancelot1
    @SirRancelot1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The “I am Protoss” at the beginning is such foreshadowing lol

  • @AntithesisDCLXVI
    @AntithesisDCLXVI 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A TvT but one side's tanks can teleport while seiged.

  • @TheCopyTitan
    @TheCopyTitan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sorry, guys, but this was not epic at all. Morthada was so bad, and if Darkshadow had a little bit more balls to actually produce more units, he would have won.
    1200 APM dropping to 92. That's not skill. That's spam.
    While I appreciate your casts a lot, this is so far from epic, it's the opposite.

    • @alexanderbezrukov5812
      @alexanderbezrukov5812 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeye I second this, such perversions in SC hardly ever go unpunished by someone who's really good

  • @dtoad48
    @dtoad48 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Used to do Mind Control tricks way back when. Was always fun just trying to get 400/400

  • @odoacredacalcutta5085
    @odoacredacalcutta5085 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've always thought that mind controlling an scv was a very viable strategy for P to get an edge in the late game in PvT. we all know T is going to win in a situation where both are 200/200. How about if P gets to 300/400

  • @salsashark4133
    @salsashark4133 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is so far my very favorite Broodwar match of all time.
    The bastard pulled it off.

  • @Sarum9nich
    @Sarum9nich 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For some reason all the cool games happen on this particular map.

  • @teddyruxpin3811
    @teddyruxpin3811 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i dont know what was with the "EPIC?" question mark tag but that truly was epic!

  • @nephalem4396
    @nephalem4396 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This should seriously get an epic tag this is one of the most interesting brood war games I've seen

    • @Catinbox123-ne4le
      @Catinbox123-ne4le 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      this one was straight out of a fantasy world or something! Halloween or something much? lol

  • @konradkuaj79
    @konradkuaj79 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    LOL many great plays from Morthada, quick DT in base was great, mind control and recall with tanks was great to watch, give us more of these! EPIC for sure

  • @kopfmann45
    @kopfmann45 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Recalling sieged tanks is the best thing ever

  • @petrovepryk3786
    @petrovepryk3786 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1k APM? Are you serious???

  • @jimtan1990
    @jimtan1990 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this protoss jusst dont wanna end it early lol,when DT out that's it endgame

  • @darkswarm13
    @darkswarm13 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    holy hell that 11 tank recall tho

  • @daforce128
    @daforce128 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just 2 more DT's and a bit more focus on killing detection would've ended the game in the 7:00 minute

    • @FalconPaladin
      @FalconPaladin  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      True! But that's what we get when there aren't pros playing the game. :)

    • @daforce128
      @daforce128 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FalconPaladin and missed out a lot of fun also! Good cast 💪

  • @MrMaddox57
    @MrMaddox57 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    god, wish we had more Morthada matches, and ones against Flash and the other elites would be HILARIOUS hahaha, even they would be surprised with Morthada's "tricks." LOVE this match and these two players. Hope more unique matches and lesser known players are still out there to find and cast.

  • @MrCzupaczup
    @MrCzupaczup 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1100 APM in first minute? This can be real?

    • @BobaSkoba
      @BobaSkoba 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Spam a hotkey fam

  • @Catinbox123-ne4le
    @Catinbox123-ne4le 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    in fact BOTH these dudes are, lol, they seem like they would play well, TOGETHER, hahaha. LIVE for the DAAAAAAARK players hahaha.

  • @marlonpadilla5632
    @marlonpadilla5632 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You've brought this game up a few times, so I had to check it out. I love a good worker mind control game.

  • @AdrianOnEarth
    @AdrianOnEarth 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aw man, why didn’t Morthada make nukes?? That’s the funniest thing to do with a mind controlled Terran army. Two command centers, double nuke silos, two ghosts, simultaneous nukes in the middle of the enemy’s production. Kiss of death.

  • @weezerblink194
    @weezerblink194 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    ugly start for dark shadow. Reminds me of when I used to play and would make those mistakes. Think I got everything under control with tanks and upgrades only to realize, when im suddently getting DT owned, that I have nothing to detect the cloak.

  • @Catinbox123-ne4le
    @Catinbox123-ne4le 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    maybe the players should switch names. With those cloaked tank drops, too! Who ARE these two? Jeez, what a DAAAAAAARK match!

  • @maddocpax788
    @maddocpax788 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Starts watching, dozey... who are these guys, are they any good... maybe check the APM... over 1000 WTF???

  • @ПетърКънчев-п8з
    @ПетърКънчев-п8з 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    As I am watching this game I think of mind control over an allie's army which it can replace. It would take time but it might work. Does it work that way? :)

  • @clever_taussig
    @clever_taussig 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why protoss was so passive?
    The only good thing was this mind control.

  • @weezerblink194
    @weezerblink194 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    lol dude stormed like all of the tanks that he himself recalled in lol. I imagine its hard to suddenly be Terran when you have been toss the entire game. Either way, I bet he was like um... That didn't pan out...

  • @marsumane
    @marsumane 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rave-mode nexus?

  • @uuuueber
    @uuuueber 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    When your macro is that good you don’t need micro. Just send waves of units to whittle down the enemies army to keep them preoccupied while you continue to mine and upgrade and let your spell casters/secret plans ready up

  • @phamnhat2925
    @phamnhat2925 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're correct in saying that the Protoss should have built Battlecruisers. Would have ended this game faster and humiliate the Terran more.

  • @fredhurst2528
    @fredhurst2528 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you steal an upgraded unit with mind control in PvP BW, do you get the upgrades same as you do in the campaigns?

  • @Catinbox123-ne4le
    @Catinbox123-ne4le 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    And I see he only has two matches on here. I hope one day someone finds you some or you find more of them, Falcon. What a unique player, Morthada!

  • @d0mochi
    @d0mochi 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    There’s a spider mine at 18:00 I’m sure the enemy can see the mind controlled scv building a command center

  • @antongeorgiev1704
    @antongeorgiev1704 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think it's FAKE though. This is why:
    1. At 8 min P could win with that DR flood
    2. That sacrificial SCV just hanging out there for 3 - 4 min
    3. The P didn't actually scout the SCV, but the shuttle went straight there

  • @br4d048
    @br4d048 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Haha, man this was a crazy game!

  • @banjiu10
    @banjiu10 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This game should have ended in 10min if the P walks in. P was in a playful mood.

  • @Catinbox123-ne4le
    @Catinbox123-ne4le 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    absolutely epic, because it is so UNIQUE a match, the players are, as well.

  • @rahsaantalley2012
    @rahsaantalley2012 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Purple trash, 29 minutes and he still couldn't max out XDDD

  • @kfdkddnkoko6611
    @kfdkddnkoko6611 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have done this with zerg and terran i have 600 supply so hard to control them all

  • @vincentj.3209
    @vincentj.3209 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not epic at all. Really disappointing. The terran player made a lot of clumsy mistakes (really, no scan ready vs protoss ?). The 'tos was just toying with him.

    • @MrMaddox57
      @MrMaddox57 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      lol, yeah, all the same, maybe not "elite," in the traditional sense, lol, but I would NOT want to face off against Morthada. TOO unpredictable, haha.

  • @michaelrowand898
    @michaelrowand898 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was the most entertaining video of someone playing with their food I've ever seen

  • @maquabear5242
    @maquabear5242 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is my 3rd or 4th time watching this. It stands up to watching again and again.

  • @s.a.b7617
    @s.a.b7617 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It was cool that he got Terran, yet this felt like a noob game all over.

  • @jdelsolar
    @jdelsolar 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice game, but imagine to see a recall of tanks on each base at the same time...

  • @trainspotting_and_tech2023
    @trainspotting_and_tech2023 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So, in some way, both terran and protoss win! 😁

  • @LALO-rg6wl
    @LALO-rg6wl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the da at around 15min was waiting for energy to mc =)

  • @maquabear5242
    @maquabear5242 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Badgers we don't need no stinking badgers!
    Supplies!
    Welcome to Spatula City!

  • @stevenmike1878
    @stevenmike1878 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    i was hoping he would go suprise nuke as soon as he got that scv.

  • @DeadInfested
    @DeadInfested 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you Lazaros!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @machewpapee8654
    @machewpapee8654 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    not epic. if he went battlcruisers then definitely epic!

  • @pennyfish89
    @pennyfish89 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    14:55 Not Enough Energy

    • @FalconPaladin
      @FalconPaladin  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well that explains it. Thanks!

    • @mgtowstanleyzoltanov9808
      @mgtowstanleyzoltanov9808 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Next before questioning masters sit and think for a moment i sugest. He saced the goons in the first attack to prevent teran from scaning. Then the dark was kept in shuttle if scan come

  • @darkswarm13
    @darkswarm13 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    would be hillarious if the victory screen showed his race has terran and protoss

  • @theenlightened757
    @theenlightened757 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the uploads falcon.

  •  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Matt Berry always delivers. He is also a great musician.

  • @endlessedgar4576
    @endlessedgar4576 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just realized that's thhe weird blue.

  • @Sirax123
    @Sirax123 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is gonna sound crazy, but tank scout.

  • @SirRancelot1
    @SirRancelot1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That spider mine was a huge plot twist haha so epic

  • @trungtekken1947
    @trungtekken1947 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    P should win earlier. P fully dominated

  • @DeusEversor
    @DeusEversor 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Scbw recall of deployed tanks is more reasonable and realistic than sc2 abducting deployed tanks. But hey, thats awesome game.

  • @enjolraslechimiste
    @enjolraslechimiste 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    In my limited time as a Protoss BW player, I never liked using storm against Terran. Tanks out range Templar, negating their utility. A good enemy always has turrets or Goliaths to cover shuttle play; I’m only willing to drop zealots on tanks.

  • @robingill376
    @robingill376 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man I still play Free for All and with Protoss I always try to get the mix with all three races its fun and hell expensive as well but its always fun. In this specific match the protoss player should have gone for ghost that would have given him him the end

  • @Malamockq
    @Malamockq 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    They allowed Dark Archons to mind control builder units for other races because they decided that it wouldn't be imbalanced because the amount of resources necessary to make it work would be overwhelming to the point of where you would win anyway.

  • @smallvesa
    @smallvesa 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Big fan of your work...i see on protoss something on nexus...is a special skin?how do i aquire it?THank you

    • @FalconPaladin
      @FalconPaladin  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, it's because I pre-ordered StarCraft Remastered. :)

    • @smallvesa
      @smallvesa 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FalconPaladin Cheers mate

  • @andrewkamoha4666
    @andrewkamoha4666 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Weird game. Bad moves from both sides.

  • @puremorning5335
    @puremorning5335 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    fan of your replay casts, but i'm 90% sure this game was set up. cool game, fun to watch, just like it was designed to be. lol

  • @stogesmcgee3251
    @stogesmcgee3251 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    it wouldn't be falcon paladin video without thinking the game is to slow

  • @noob2gosu
    @noob2gosu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hahahaha whaaaat i played vs morthada today and he mentioned you! Had to come and watch this

    • @FalconPaladin
      @FalconPaladin  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He did? Awesome. Did he see this cast?

  • @BartixShieldsmen
    @BartixShieldsmen 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    How'd it take me a month to find this? Also I like to think that the scv joined the protoss willingly since that was Jim Raynor after escaping tarsonis

  • @iceman4949
    @iceman4949 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hate protoss, they are too imbalance

  • @JJtoutcourt
    @JJtoutcourt 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Morthada

  • @mizaelenciel
    @mizaelenciel 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    25:53 A stupid move.
    26:26 A smart move.

  • @ryapowa
    @ryapowa 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Definitely deserves the epic tag for the T vs PT alone.
    I just wish Morthada was a bit better of a player, his APM when the game mattered wasn't great

  • @KaiserMattTygore927
    @KaiserMattTygore927 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Top 10 weirdest SC1 matches, maybe top 20 at the lowest.
    T V TP

  • @ZJohnson92
    @ZJohnson92 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That movie you mentioned was hilarious! I am looking forward to seeing the TV show

  • @Acrillian
    @Acrillian 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    27:38 he stormed his own tanks )

  • @bjornbudinger4556
    @bjornbudinger4556 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i love mindcontrol 😋😋🤣🤣

  • @adamg0d
    @adamg0d 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's one checkbox knocked out! Now let's just find infested terrans :D

  • @alexanderdol
    @alexanderdol 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Never thought I’d see one of these in actual pvp. But cmon who hasn’t done it in vs pc for shits and giggles!

  • @rushrule1
    @rushrule1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was the best!

  • @Eidolon2003
    @Eidolon2003 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Came here from your cast today, and WOW! That was so much fun to watch. Recalling tanks?! Absolute madness

  • @stodo1337
    @stodo1337 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    IT Crowd is so great

  • @MJ.Actual
    @MJ.Actual 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    this games hilarious