It’s somewhat surreal watching what was a micro compact pistol be turned into a standard compact pistol (albeit skinnier) because the larger compact is easier and more pleasant to shoot. We’re essentially going back to what was the industry standard size of 4” barrel 5” tall. Almost like that standard was the result of decades of firearm usage.
Look at cell phones, how we went smaller and smaller until we got a screen on the front we interact with and then they got bigger and bigger and now I own a galaxy Z-fold. It happens with everything tbh, the original 365 is too small for me, but the XL is just right for me to edc.
As you spoke of with Sig doing the rolling changes, I’ll wait 6-9 months for all the Beta testing to be completed for the kinks to be worked out. It looks nice and I like the changes but only time will tell.
I look forward to your range report on this pistol. I've never been a fan of the P320 because of its high bore axis and always thought an upsized P365 would be a much better platform.
@@rwally192wrong. The 365 is available in only 9mm and 380. The 320-series available in 40, 357sig, 45acp, 9mm, and the XTens are 10mm, of course. That makes a huge difference.
@@JD-tn5lzI suppose that’s true, but if we are talking about a 9mm carry pistol, there sure seems to be some product line overlap as the 365 grows larger, with the 320 having very few advantages that I can see. Again, talking 9mm carry.
Been carrying a G19 for a decade, recently went over to a shadow systems MR920. I chose that size of carry because it's what was recommended from people who had been in real situations. I dabbled with smaller carry guns but always came back to G19, kinda funny to see the trend coming back to 4" 15rd 9mms lol. I think the p365 series has been vetted over the years, I wouldn't mind a 365xl size or similar.
And still so many seem to be ignorant of the fact that SAAMI specifications have 9mm loaded for a 4" barrel. Shorter than that and your ammunition may not perform as intended.
Thank you for sharing this review of yours. I haven't been a fan of Sig Sauer since the closed the German manufacturing facility. I think Sig Sauer has hit a home run with this pistol. It's a classy looking pistol as well. Thank you for sharing your honest reviews. By far the best on TH-cam 🙏👌
During dry fire resetting the trigger while holding it in pulled position and racking the slide, does the slide feels stiffer with some resistance while trying to rack it with trigger held in pulled position? Mine is doing that…. Would you please confirm?
7:41 the Foxtrot2R is not as powerful as the TLR1-HL (700 vs 1000 lumen) but it has the same candela (20k). There's a video by Werkz Holsters that goes into more details.
Nice video, thanks man. Curious, and apologies if it was touched on in a previous video or in other comments, but I noticed you're not using Nosler freedom seeds for the chamber fit test. Was there a change, or was it just readily available?
Yes, the macro Comp: www.gbgunsdepot.com/post/new-sig-p365-x-macro-comp but that leaves you with just a 3.1" barrel. There isn't yet a 4.3" slide with a 3.7" barrel in it.
I suspected something like this would come out. If it performs well for you, I may be tempted to sell all my P320's and get one. If Sig was smart, they'd offer this with an external safety. Law enforcement agencies would line up to buy it. I bet Glock comes out with a 4.3/4.5 inch Glock 48 to compete with it.
That gun was a failure before it was released. Within three weeks of hitting the streets, used ones were already for sale in DFW for $300 with no takers.
Paid over 800 for the x macro comp and they release this with better grip, higher sights, trigger, magwell and more mags for cheaper! Smh. 🤦 Not buyin no more Sigs lol
Basically Fits the same form/function as the Walther PDP-F. Without the misgendering 😮😂. BTW thatSig optic reminds me that Meprolight has new line of pistol optics including a fully enclosed unit that’s very affordable and not manufactured in Cathay
Naw, I don't think it's the unemployed Glocksters...it's more likely the early shift for JiffyLube commenting from their trailer park as they fondle their Tisas.
@@GBGunsI can bang super models all day long…it just takes time, money or both. SIG has an optics issue with their P320 discharging. No matter where you sit on the subject, it is out there and it comes up all the time. I am no fire arms industry expert but it seems like a bad idea to have no manual safety or trigger safety…not a big deal if you disagree nor wanting to argue the topic…just sharing my perspective. You probably know way more about it than I do.
Will it run 250 rounds without a hitch? Can you load the mags fully without help from you're mom? will the slide close after each shot? Will it shoot to point of aim out of the box? I don't think so.
I'm not sure i see the point of this, other than a cash grab for Sig. The beuaty of the 365 has been its concealability. Capcity in a relatively tiny package. Ive owned an Arex Delta 2 for a while and its great, which seems like what Sig is morphing this into.
The point it that still remains and now more people can carry a firearm with proper Ballistic performance (ie 9mm barrel of 4"+) and have great capacity.
Why do banks get robbed? Because that's where the money's at. Become a department armorer and you'll read enough armorer's bulletins to expect that no sidearm is "safe." They made big news, at least they owned up to it. There's more than a few that don't...
This is…an odd choice for Sig. wtf would I buy this over a p320 with a MUCH better grip/easier takedown/all the other benefits of a true full size pistol? Honestly I don’t even see the point of the macro, but maybe that’s just me? If you can conceal a Macro, you can probably conceal a duty sized pistol
Duty sized pistol is not comfortable for me to carry because it's too thick. So while the Macro is similar size to the G19, it feels really good when I carry it IWB or AIWB. And it's nuts that the Macro carries more rounds than the G19. It's great that we get options for all body shapes and sizes.
Because when the contract was out for bid, the 365 wasn't a thing especially in a full-size. Also, frankly, even for it's famous failing the 320 has survived testing protocols the 365 probably hasn't experienced. Sig does test their guns, but they don't HK-test their guns, no one except HK does that. Not even close.
@@JD-tn5lz Wow. It was just a rhetorical question to frame the comparible capacity while being in a lighter and thinner gun. I know how military procurement works.
@@troyspurling1910that's nice. Now here's an answer you should have come up with yourself. Options. I take a 320 over this. Simply because with a 320 I have real caliber options. No 365 in 40, 357Sig, or 10mm.
You're a perfect example of how YT and Forums give trash information. Dude, Sig is a business, a very aggressively run business. The 365 is what people are looking for, so that's what Sig is using capacity for. Not only are there years of military contracts to fill, there are still LE contracts being offered and sold. So, just because you can't even afford Sig doesn't mean that everything bad about them is remotely true. By the way, few sidearms are truly drop-safe, Sig has deep pockets and a big name, so hence, they get sued alot and it gets into the news. Gunmakers get sued by PDs constantly.
Total misinformation. The Sig P320 keeps growing in production and sales, with a vast selection of models to offer. As far as the civil lawsuits against Sig, so far, the plaintiffs haven't been able to prove liability, and the cases are dragging slow. Who knows if they will settle or go to trial. So, your prediction "crystal ball" needs a fine tune-up, Mr. Dwayne.
Says a man who watches GB because of all the videos on cheap Turkish guns😂 I never had a problem with a Sig and they're very appropriately priced. I don't usually carry Sig, but when I do they handle rural Alaska better than any Turkish knockoff or Taurus garbage. So go home and hug your Tisas.
Hahaha. Garbage? Compared to what and why? Because it's not "drop-safe"? Wow. News from this LE instructor and armorer, very few sidearms are and you don't want the one that truly is. Some makers (ahem, Tisas, Girsan, Canik) don't even address the issue because they aren't and they don't get military/LE contracts and others address the issue by issuing recalls (Walther, S&W, Sig) after failing genuine testing. Is Sig great? Nope, not my first choice, but they aren't junk and they are correctly priced for their market. And don't worry, I'm pretty sure no one will ever pay YOU a nickel to carry ANY gun.
Stick to Glock, if you prefer, but Sig Sauer striker-fired handguns are far from "garbage." The quality of Sig surpasses "Block," a base plataform that has been quite upgraded and improved.
@@v.german11byou're right in saying Sigs aren't garbage, they are pretty good firearms. HOWEVER, I've been a department armorer working both Sigs and Glocks...no, Glock is a much superior package to Sig, at least as duty use and maintenance is concerned, not even close. Frankly, they don't take abuse and neglect as well as Glocks do, and nothing more technical than a pointy stick is as easy to work on as a Glock. Every Glock part is replaceable in under five minutes for those very rare moments when something breaks or wears out. Yeah, Sigs are "nicer" but from a standpoint of use and abuse, nobody beats Glock. HK can take the crap like none other, but when something does need fixing, enjoy!
How to watch 4 and 1/2 minutes of BS before he actually got to the review of the new gun he cares about all that other crap get to the point nobody cares about your personal opinion it's a product review if you don't know how to do one watch Consumer Reports
It seems to me you don't understand the difference between a review and a presentation. To save your time in the future, please use the time stamps in the video description or on the red time bar. They are there so you can skip to the parts you want to see.
Full Review with Specs etc: www.gbgunsdepot.com/post/sig-p365-fuse-released
Would you recommend anyone actually conceal carry this, or is it to big?
@@bmj2k7 That depends on your body size/shape shape and comfort. This is smaller than what I carry in the winter.
It’s somewhat surreal watching what was a micro compact pistol be turned into a standard compact pistol (albeit skinnier) because the larger compact is easier and more pleasant to shoot. We’re essentially going back to what was the industry standard size of 4” barrel 5” tall. Almost like that standard was the result of decades of firearm usage.
And shooting techniques have returned to stroking throught the break almost like....revolver shooting from decades ago
@@GBGuns what’s old is new. When I bring out my K frame I find my shooting with all my other handguns is better that day.
Reminds me of cell phones from big to small to big again.
Look at cell phones, how we went smaller and smaller until we got a screen on the front we interact with and then they got bigger and bigger and now I own a galaxy Z-fold. It happens with everything tbh, the original 365 is too small for me, but the XL is just right for me to edc.
I WANT ONE OF THOSE, I'M IN LOVE WITH THAT SIG P365 FUSE.
I had a feeling they would eventually catch up with the aftermarket stuff... Pretty neat!
As you spoke of with Sig doing the rolling changes, I’ll wait 6-9 months for all the Beta testing to be completed for the kinks to be worked out. It looks nice and I like the changes but only time will tell.
And I just got my first P365 😂 4 weeks ago, a XL TACPAC... 100 Rounds thru it no issues or malfunctions.
The good news is now you have an FCU and can come figure it as you Luke. I just built an XXL very similar to this a month before I learned of this.
I look forward to your range report on this pistol. I've never been a fan of the P320 because of its high bore axis and always thought an upsized P365 would be a much better platform.
At this point that's about the only difference, it's almost the xcarry.
Full review is live on GBGunsdepot.com
@@rwally192wrong. The 365 is available in only 9mm and 380.
The 320-series available in 40, 357sig, 45acp, 9mm, and the XTens are 10mm, of course.
That makes a huge difference.
@@JD-tn5lzI suppose that’s true, but if we are talking about a 9mm carry pistol, there sure seems to be some product line overlap as the 365 grows larger, with the 320 having very few advantages that I can see. Again, talking 9mm carry.
Definitely waiting for the comp version
Looking forward to those 21 round mags. Lots of boxes checked off with this new 365.
Hahahahaha
Waiting for the Caliber conversion kits, making the P365 like the P320. Awesome!
Been carrying a G19 for a decade, recently went over to a shadow systems MR920. I chose that size of carry because it's what was recommended from people who had been in real situations.
I dabbled with smaller carry guns but always came back to G19, kinda funny to see the trend coming back to 4" 15rd 9mms lol.
I think the p365 series has been vetted over the years, I wouldn't mind a 365xl size or similar.
And still so many seem to be ignorant of the fact that SAAMI specifications have 9mm loaded for a 4" barrel. Shorter than that and your ammunition may not perform as intended.
Looking forward to WFD! So far, as of today, this is the best review I've seen.
Thank you
I have the fuse upper, on a 365 legion grip module.
I'll be watching for a conversion kit on the Sig website. If the FCU from my 365Xl would work...
Echo comp next 🤣 great info. Would have liked to see full length dust cover. But I am more than hapoy w 365XL / Mischief Machine combo. Thanks GB
I want one, badly. Ubfortunately, I live in WA...
That is a sexy looking gun. Never cared much for Sig triggers.
Looks like it should feel athletic, like a gymnast, in the hand. Dimensionally, they've finally morphed the 365 into an Arex Delta.
Amen … same thing I thought
Thanks for the video.
Thank you for sharing this review of yours.
I haven't been a fan of Sig Sauer since the closed the German manufacturing facility.
I think Sig Sauer has hit a home run with this pistol.
It's a classy looking pistol as well.
Thank you for sharing your honest reviews. By far the best on TH-cam 🙏👌
im like oh, wow, they remixed the same gun… wow. then went on to be like… oh wow i kinda like that
I wanna know more about the optic.
If you get the Icarus XXL Macro or Exo I have a feeling that it will fit more flush. The other option is the XXL frame from Shalotec.
Or Maskas Precision's XXL on a Macro grip as we've shown.
@@GBGuns I honestly think that would be awesome on the Sharps Bro's XMacro grip module! Would probably shoot extremely well
THX GRAHAM!
Yay!! "Influencer!!"
Right!
This definitely a John wick pistol that should have been used!!
During dry fire resetting the trigger while holding it in pulled position and racking the slide, does the slide feels stiffer with some resistance while trying to rack it with trigger held in pulled position? Mine is doing that…. Would you please confirm?
Interesting. I have a P365X but will probably not acquire this one, with price being a big factor.
7:41 the Foxtrot2R is not as powerful as the TLR1-HL (700 vs 1000 lumen) but it has the same candela (20k). There's a video by Werkz Holsters that goes into more details.
Yes, it's more appropriate for close environments.
When's Sig going to come out with 30 round 365 mags? And when will Magpul come out with the 50 round drums?
Do you have that hang fire squib combo on video? Ammo related failures are interesting to see and hear.
Yes, the video isn't published yet here on TH-cam but I embedded it in the article on GBGUNSDEPOT.COM
@@GBGuns
Currently watching the Fuse video.
Apex carry and a flared mag well. Damn
Then remove the magwell
I love the designs of sig but hate their triggers!
Idk i like the gun but the trigger just looks squishy. Ill have to get one to test it
Fiber optic sight? I'll hold out for upgraded night sights. Terrific looking gun.
That's an easy swap.
Sigs are easy, but I know gunsmiths that won't touch a shield
@@GBGuns Ys.....same.. I'm my own gunsmith.
@@GBGuns I'm my own gunsmith....thanks.
Nice video, thanks man. Curious, and apologies if it was touched on in a previous video or in other comments, but I noticed you're not using Nosler freedom seeds for the chamber fit test. Was there a change, or was it just readily available?
I saw a noticeable decline in Nosler quality a couple of years ago and so stopped using it.
@@GBGuns fair enough 🖖 🍻
Do they have a Model that comes with a Slide with a built in Compensator?
Yes, the macro Comp: www.gbgunsdepot.com/post/new-sig-p365-x-macro-comp but that leaves you with just a 3.1" barrel. There isn't yet a 4.3" slide with a 3.7" barrel in it.
Don't you think that this defeats the purpose of the 365?
Not at all, it's the slimmest full size I know of
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I suspected something like this would come out. If it performs well for you, I may be tempted to sell all my P320's and get one. If Sig was smart, they'd offer this with an external safety. Law enforcement agencies would line up to buy it. I bet Glock comes out with a 4.3/4.5 inch Glock 48 to compete with it.
👏💖🙏
Similar width as the Rost Martin 🤔
That gun was a failure before it was released. Within three weeks of hitting the streets, used ones were already for sale in DFW for $300 with no takers.
Paid over 800 for the x macro comp and they release this with better grip, higher sights, trigger, magwell and more mags for cheaper! Smh. 🤦 Not buyin no more Sigs lol
Just picked one up, are there any existing p365 holsters I can buy? IWB
Sig has an Alien Gear IWB/OWB holster listed on their website specifically for the p365 fuse for 45 bucks. Looks nice.
Looks like a 48 but better.
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Someone please make a set of thinner panels for the Sharp Bros module please
But the whole point of the Sharps Bros module is to have a thicker pistol.
@@GBGuns I got one but it’s just a bit too thick for me. I went back to the Spectre comp grip module
@pittwm have you tried emailing Sharps Bros to see if they have a slimmer grip panels planned?
@@GBGuns I just emailed VZGrips
0:43 What slide did he say was on the Icarus Precision Air polymer frame?
That build/review is here: www.gbgunsdepot.com/post/maskas-precision-xxl-slide-barrel-for-the-sig-p365
@@GBGuns thank you!
Why didn't you show all models together for comparison? Never buy first release of a car or gun.
Comparisons are in the article
Basically Fits the same form/function as the Walther PDP-F. Without the misgendering 😮😂. BTW thatSig optic reminds me that Meprolight has new line of pistol optics including a fully enclosed unit that’s very affordable and not manufactured in Cathay
Choose the one you like the most. Or get both. But variety is the essence of it all!
Fascinating how many unemployed glocksters have nothing to do but watch and comment on a gun made by a maker they hate and would never buy from.
Naw, I don't think it's the unemployed Glocksters...it's more likely the early shift for JiffyLube commenting from their trailer park as they fondle their Tisas.
Naw, it's not unemployed Glocksters.
It's that trailer park guy getting ready for his shift at 7-11 while he fondles his precious Tisas.
Eh, probably not unemployed Glocksters.
More likely the Tisas trailer park crowd.
your comment is 1/2 the comments mentioning the G word as far as i can see.
True.
no trigger safety ? strange for me
You cna add one aftermarket.
@@GBGunsI can bang super models all day long…it just takes time, money or both. SIG has an optics issue with their P320 discharging. No matter where you sit on the subject, it is out there and it comes up all the time. I am no fire arms industry expert but it seems like a bad idea to have no manual safety or trigger safety…not a big deal if you disagree nor wanting to argue the topic…just sharing my perspective. You probably know way more about it than I do.
@@willowwood6798key words.... your are no expert
17 rnd mag that fits 16, the 20, fits 19. Is a Sig thing 🤷🏽♂️😆
The round count just can't stop. We will never have enough ammo with us. Just practice with what you have.
The FCU appears to me from this video to possibly be a MIM part instead of the original folded metal.....
P365 FCU has ALWAYS been MIM, the P320 is a stamped folded stainless steel part
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What’s wrong with your nose? Sounds like you plugged it up.
Will it run 250 rounds without a hitch? Can you load the mags fully without help from you're mom? will the slide close after each shot? Will it shoot to point of aim out of the box? I don't think so.
You should read the full review
I'm not sure i see the point of this, other than a cash grab for Sig. The beuaty of the 365 has been its concealability. Capcity in a relatively tiny package.
Ive owned an Arex Delta 2 for a while and its great, which seems like what Sig is morphing this into.
The point it that still remains and now more people can carry a firearm with proper Ballistic performance (ie 9mm barrel of 4"+) and have great capacity.
So just a worse version of the p320
The p365 doesn't discharge by itself, i think it's a way for Sig to get away from the P320 design on the carry market.
Sig makes a Glock clone now too? At least it should be drop safe!
Why do banks get robbed? Because that's where the money's at.
Become a department armorer and you'll read enough armorer's bulletins to expect that no sidearm is "safe."
They made big news, at least they owned up to it.
There's more than a few that don't...
How do you think this is similar to a Glock?
@@GBGuns I’ll stay with what works and what everyone else copies. Mags are cheaper too. We’re not all shills for the manufacturers.
@@JD-tn5lz owned up to it? I stay with what works! Mags are cheaper too. Your delusion if you think they owned up to it!
@@themountrushmorestateofmin6307Pooly trained cops using the wrong holster. Let the lie go.
This is…an odd choice for Sig. wtf would I buy this over a p320 with a MUCH better grip/easier takedown/all the other benefits of a true full size pistol? Honestly I don’t even see the point of the macro, but maybe that’s just me? If you can conceal a Macro, you can probably conceal a duty sized pistol
Yep, and with a 320 you can shoot 40 or 357sig also.
Plus, the XTen and XTen Compact
Because this is thinner and lighter
Duty sized pistol is not comfortable for me to carry because it's too thick. So while the Macro is similar size to the G19, it feels really good when I carry it IWB or AIWB. And it's nuts that the Macro carries more rounds than the G19.
It's great that we get options for all body shapes and sizes.
I am having a very hard time understanding the purpose of this gun
You can have an Echelon, if you prefer, for less.
Weight?
@@GeneralHurcane less money.
Specs are in the article
Why would anyone, including the military, want a full size P320 when they could have this?
Because when the contract was out for bid, the 365 wasn't a thing especially in a full-size.
Also, frankly, even for it's famous failing the 320 has survived testing protocols the 365 probably hasn't experienced.
Sig does test their guns, but they don't HK-test their guns, no one except HK does that. Not even close.
@@JD-tn5lz Wow. It was just a rhetorical question to frame the comparible capacity while being in a lighter and thinner gun. I know how military procurement works.
@@troyspurling1910that's nice. Now here's an answer you should have come up with yourself. Options.
I take a 320 over this. Simply because with a 320 I have real caliber options.
No 365 in 40, 357Sig, or 10mm.
@@JD-tn5lz you are obviously more impressed with your opinion than I am
@@troyspurling1910aaaaw. Poor child.
They will have to relie on 365 Platform. Since it looks like the 320 Platform. Is going Bye Bye. Losing in Court. And all..
P320 isn’t going anywhere years of military contracts need to be fulfilled
You're a perfect example of how YT and Forums give trash information.
Dude, Sig is a business, a very aggressively run business. The 365 is what people are looking for, so that's what Sig is using capacity for.
Not only are there years of military contracts to fill, there are still LE contracts being offered and sold.
So, just because you can't even afford Sig doesn't mean that everything bad about them is remotely true.
By the way, few sidearms are truly drop-safe, Sig has deep pockets and a big name, so hence, they get sued alot and it gets into the news. Gunmakers get sued by PDs constantly.
Total misinformation. The Sig P320 keeps growing in production and sales, with a vast selection of models to offer. As far as the civil lawsuits against Sig, so far, the plaintiffs haven't been able to prove liability, and the cases are dragging slow. Who knows if they will settle or go to trial. So, your prediction "crystal ball" needs a fine tune-up, Mr. Dwayne.
Huh. People still wasting money on Sig? No thanks.
Says a man who watches GB because of all the videos on cheap Turkish guns😂
I never had a problem with a Sig and they're very appropriately priced. I don't usually carry Sig, but when I do they handle rural Alaska better than any Turkish knockoff or Taurus garbage.
So go home and hug your Tisas.
If you’re broke just say that. SIG perfection 🇺🇸
@@lostatsee6867 sig and perfection in the same sentence. This comment section got me cracking up😂
@@027MC7 If you’re broke and can’t afford SIG it’s all good I’m not judging. SIG is just superior and I accept it 🇺🇸 Yes I am a sigga
Yeah, Sig Sauer is going "broke" with its increasing popularity and record high sales... Go figure 😁
Sig’s striker system is garbage! You couldn’t pay me to carry this garbage of a gun.
@goodieh3355 SIG perfection 🇺🇸
Hahaha. Garbage? Compared to what and why?
Because it's not "drop-safe"? Wow. News from this LE instructor and armorer, very few sidearms are and you don't want the one that truly is.
Some makers (ahem, Tisas, Girsan, Canik) don't even address the issue because they aren't and they don't get military/LE contracts and others address the issue by issuing recalls (Walther, S&W, Sig) after failing genuine testing.
Is Sig great? Nope, not my first choice, but they aren't junk and they are correctly priced for their market.
And don't worry, I'm pretty sure no one will ever pay YOU a nickel to carry ANY gun.
Stick to Glock, if you prefer, but Sig Sauer striker-fired handguns are far from "garbage." The quality of Sig surpasses "Block," a base plataform that has been quite upgraded and improved.
@@v.german11byou're right in saying Sigs aren't garbage, they are pretty good firearms.
HOWEVER, I've been a department armorer working both Sigs and Glocks...no, Glock is a much superior package to Sig, at least as duty use and maintenance is concerned, not even close.
Frankly, they don't take abuse and neglect as well as Glocks do, and nothing more technical than a pointy stick is as easy to work on as a Glock. Every Glock part is replaceable in under five minutes for those very rare moments when something breaks or wears out.
Yeah, Sigs are "nicer" but from a standpoint of use and abuse, nobody beats Glock.
HK can take the crap like none other, but when something does need fixing, enjoy!
@@JD-tn5lz Use it and abuse it. I prefer Sig Sauer firearms, irrespective of your "armorer's" opinion. Enjoy Glock!
Will a tlr 1 fit on it?
How to watch 4 and 1/2 minutes of BS before he actually got to the review of the new gun he cares about all that other crap get to the point nobody cares about your personal opinion it's a product review if you don't know how to do one watch Consumer Reports
It seems to me you don't understand the difference between a review and a presentation. To save your time in the future, please use the time stamps in the video description or on the red time bar. They are there so you can skip to the parts you want to see.