How to Paint New Plaster - a Complete Guide that will save you money!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ต.ค. 2024
- In this video I will show you how to paint new plaster using a mist coat of emulsion paint. I will include preperation of the new plaster, how to mix your own mist coat of paint to save money, what paint to avoid and finally how to apply your mist coat.
The first step is wall preparation which will involve sanding and maybe filling, you should pay close attention to the edges of the new plaster to ensure you get a crisp line between the new plaster and the old plaster. As new plaster is delicate you should use a minimum of 180 grit sandpaper.
You can buy a special bare plaster paint but there really is no need and I feel it is a waste of money when you can make your own using emulsion you already have. To make your mist coat you need to use standard matt emulsion, do not be tempted to use endurance paint, silk paint, vinyl paint or anything else as this will not work. Follow the instructions on your matt emulsion for watering down and this should give you good results.
Apply the mist coat of paint the same as you would for normal painting taking care to cover the corners. If you have used filler in the walls the mist coat will not be absorbed into that area but this doesn’t matter as the final coats of emulsion will key to this. Once the mist coat has dried you may end up with a patchy appearance but this is usual so do not feel the need to give it another coat as it is not needed. You can then proceed to give the wall the wall the final coats of the paint of your choice!
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When you are cutting in always go over any paint runs down the wall with your paintbrush as the paint run will dry very quickly and you end up with a high spot that will knocking off gently with a scaper. I roller from the skirting upwards only when misting as its a lot easier.....good video!
Thanks for the tips, and thanks for your comment 👍 👍
Great video, really enjoyed it and it told me everything I need to know. Cheers
I'm glad you liked the video and took the time to make a comment 😁
Thank you for this tip. I going to paint my newly built conservatory and this video helps.
Hi, im glad this mist coat video has helped.
Boss video pal. Thanks.
Thanks for your comment. I'm glad you liked it!
Thank you very helpful video, and step by step guide
No problem, don't forget to give the video a thumbs up 👍 and i would appreciate it if you could subscribe to my channel.
Another really good video, thanks for the tip about mixing the paint yourself!
Thanks for your comment. There is no need for "specialist new plaster paint" when you can mix your own and save money!
@@FixitwithFowler hi
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If you're doing a white ceiling. Would you do the mist coat, then a normal coat with same contract white and then use another white for final coat. Great vid by the way.
Yes, that would be my method. It will ensure you get good coverage. Just leave enough time for each coat to dry fully.
Great video, thanks for the clear instructions
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This is very helpful. Thank you. 🙂
Thanks for your comment, im glad you found the mist coat video helpful. Have you looked at my other videos?
Very useful - just what I needed to know. Many thanks!
Hi, im glad the video on how to paint new plaster was helpful 😊. Thanks for your comment!
Amazing video! Thank you so much!
Hi, thanks for your comment. Don't forget to like the video and look at my other great videos!
Thanks for the video, been useful 👍.
Hi, thanks for your comment. I'm glad the video helped and was useful 👍
Thanks brother 🙌
No problem. I'm glad you liked the video!
Here before painting my newly plastered bathroom😅
Hopefully, this will help you 😁
This is a really concise video, thank you .I'm going to have my front room plastered/skimmed ready for painting. First of all, can you tell me what the difference is between plastering and skimming please and, secondly, I bought Dulux 3 in 1 base coat. Is this okay to use without mixing with water? There are no instructions to that effect and with all the info out there, it can be daunting for a first timer like me!!😮 Thanks for your time.
Hi, plastering is normally a bonding coat then a top coat(skim) where as skimming is just a top coat. I would always recommend a matt emulsion (not 3 in 1) and diluted as oer the instructions for the first coat. Once that has dried you can then apply paint as normal.
Thank you! Much appreciated
No problem!
May I ask you one other question please, if you don't mind? I'm thinking of having my living room skimmed and the guy told me they take the skirting boards off to do so. Is that really necessary? The room isn't particularly large, approx 15ft x 15ft, perhaps smaller, but I find them a bit pricey at £950. Is that about right? Sorry, that was two questions!!😊
Hi, firstly, by skimming the walls, you add about 3mm of plaster. If you don't remove the skirting board, then you will end up with the skirting almost sitting in the wall, and it will definitely crack in the future along that line. As far as price goes, every area of the country has different prices for trades. My advice would be to get at least 3 quotes to compare. I have got a plaster skimming video on my channel, and that will show you what is involved. Hope that has helped, and if it has, check out super thanks on my channel!
Cracking video. Going to paint our kitchen new plaster celling tomorrow. And new plaster cellings in upstairs hallway and bedroom.
Any advice for cellings inperticular?
Hi, thanks for your comment. Do your ceiling exactly the same method as the video. Might be a bit messy as the paint is watered down.
@@FixitwithFowler yeah I'm really worried as I have carpet that I don't want to get paint off. Just got to take my time more I think.
@mattd6495 plenty of dust sheets is the answer. I got cheap plastic sheets from wilkos that were about £1 each and out under the dust sheets. Like you said, just take your time with the mist coat on the new plaster!
Hi, I have new plaster in the kitchen. I have just painted it with the mist (watered down) coat with Leyland trade contract Matt. Is it okay for me to let it dry and then apply the 2nd coat with the same paint and but water it down? Its in the kitchen. The final coat (3rd coat) will be with a different paint for the walls but the celling will be the the standard white as applied with the Leyland trade contract Matt. Thank you
Hi, the second coat can be applied like normal paint with no need to water it down. The mist coat just provides an adhesive layer between the new plaster and the following coats of paint. The final coats of paint can be anything of your choice. Hope that helps?
Hi Steve, firstly great video, in it you say what paint you can and not to use to mist coat on new plaster, please forgive my ignorance I've been asked by my sister-in-law to paint her ceiling in her renovated bathroom, she got the paint she wants it done in herself but it's Wilcos bathroom chalk white mid-sheen emulsion paint. Can this paint be used as a mist coat paint or not. I'll wait for your expert response before I make the wrong decision.
Many thanks Steve H
Hi, firstly, thanks for your comment! In response to your question, you need standard matt emulsion. If i were you, i would buy a small tin of standard matt emulsion and water it down. You only need to do one mist coat. Hope that helps
Thanks for that 👍
Do you wash your walls first ? to get rid of all the plaster dust .
Hi Snodge, Thanks for your comment! I use a hoover to get the fine dust off from sanding prior to painting. I don't wash the walls as it prolongs the process. Hope that helps!
Piss out matt emulsion to the consistency of single cream, don't have to be exact just not too much water as it will just run, say a cupful to 5 Litres
Or just do as the instructions on the tin!
@@FixitwithFowler there's not instructions on mist coating
@TheWESTSIDE1967 it clearly states how to dilute the paint on the side of the side of the container. It's mid way through the video!
Great video - is it the same process for lime based plaster?
Hi, I know Lime Plaster has to breathe, but I'm not sure if you need a specific sealer or not. Sorry buy I can't help you with that one!
Great video - when should I use wall primer? I have 10lL of Little Greene wall primer intended for new plaster where a very dark blue top coat will go on. Have damp areas and lots of patched easyfill 60 over new plaster. Also have Zinsser bull’s eye 123, Zinsser mould and damp satin paint. Should I mist paint with a regular emulsion before any of these other products?
This is instead of wall primer. If you have primer specifically for new plaster, then you should use that!
@@FixitwithFowler thank you!
My walls need priming so should do a mist coat before priming as I have drywall and paint bits from removing wallpaper
You only need a mist coat if it's brand new plaster. Hope that helps!
@@FixitwithFowler ok thank you
I had a question, do you water down the 2nd coat w/water as well? Or just the first? Oh do you sand in between coats? Thank you in advance! 😁
Hi louise, thanks for your comment! You only need to water down the first coat. For the second you can use normal paint. There shouldn't be any need to sand between coats of paint. Hope that helps? Don't forget to give the video a 👍and subscribe!
Great vid mate once Again!
How long to wait after plaster applied before we can do this method you are showing with mist coating?
Hi Aidan, you need to wait until the plaster is completely dry which is normally about 3-4 days (weather dependent). A good way to judge is to wait until all the plaster is the same light colour.
@@FixitwithFowler magic stuff mate! Thats good to know, keep up the vids...you have a good go at just about anything mate
Thanks again, most of these things i have learnt from my late father. He was always fixing things.
@@FixitwithFowler keep it up mate, we are learning from yourself!
Do you need to sand an entire wall or just the imperfections/obvious bits? I had full plastering on top of plaster board and am unsure if i need to sand this down.
You only need to sand the imperfections then your good to go for your mist coat!
I just had the first mist coat for my bedroom ceiling, and it looks patchy (especially for some larger filled/ patched area). it looks like these area can't be painted over. Would it be a problem? If then what should I do to fix it?
Hi, that's quite normal for a patchy finish from a mist coat. It won't soak into that area like it does the new plaster, but there is no problem with that.
@@FixitwithFowler so they are supposed to be covered when I apply the second coat to the entire wall (contract matt without dilution)?
You will still need two coats of non diluted emulsion on top of the mist coat. The mist coat just binds/keys into the plaster so the undiluted emulsion can key to the mist coat.
Can the mist coat be done with the colour of the finished walls or is it best with white? Thank you
It can be done with colour so long as its matt emulsion
@@FixitwithFowler thank you! One last question I promise! Woodwork painted before or after ceiling/walls? Thank you
@unicornster woodwork after the walls and ceilings
How long do I need to leave the mist coat before applying the full coat.
Thanks.
I normally leave for 2-4 hours but you need to ensure it is totally dry before applying the final coats. Thanks for your comment 👍
@@FixitwithFowler thanks for your reply.
@StevenGreensmith-io6ie no problem, I like to try and respond to all my comments on my videos!
Any problems for using PVA in 1st coat..
Definitely do not use pva, which will only create a barrier and prevent the paint from adhering to the finished plaster.
Should I leave the mist coat for a certain amount of time before the second coat? Or just till it has dried?
Hi David, Thanks for your comment. I would recommend waiting for 2-4 hours before adding the second coat of paint. This will allow for the mist coat to be fully cured and bonded with the new plaster. Don't forget to give the video a like 👍and if you've not already, subscribe to my channel.
If your painting the walls magnolia can you do this with magnolia paint or does it have to be white paint.
The mist coat can be any colour but just has to be matt emulsion.
I'm confused. Is a primer a completely unnecessary step if you mist coat? And what about an undercoat? Is that useful when you have an uneven wall? Mine is old plaster (that didn't get sealed/primed) and bare concrete (where I think the old plaster has come off! It's not my property, unfortunately, so I have to make do! Thanks 👍
It sounds like a special 'undercoat' paint might not be necessary either and maybe a second layer of unwatered down white might be enough to even things out before my chosen topcoat colour?
Hi Roanna, on new fresh plaster, a mist coat of diluted matt emulsion paint is all you need. For the best result, i would give the plaster one undiluted coat of emulsion followed by the final coats of your chosen paint.
@@FixitwithFowler Thanks so much!👍😁
Hi can I use this for already dray plastered walls? Well they been plastered 5,6 days ago . They look dry to me.
Hi, that's exactly what it's for! It prevents paint from peeling off new plaster by doing a mist coat first
Thank you so much for advice 🙏, and few hours later once the 1st coat it's dry,I can paint it over with any colour I like? And what if I want to wallpaper it instead, can I do that on new plastered wall? Or as well 1st get this base on 1st?
@saulitesporto, once the mist coat is dry, you can paint with any colour and any type of paint. If you are wallpapering, i would do the must coat, then one coat of emulsion before papering to prevent the wallpaper paste from being sucked into the bare plaster.
Hi there, I have a question. I have just had my bathroom plastered. On dulux website they recommend to paint with a thinned first coat of Vinyl matt. Would you recommend this also?
Hi, unfortunately i wouldn't recommend using vinyl matt as a mist coat. The reason is that the vinyl does not absorb into the plaster and in fact actually sits on top of the plaster. The mist coat is applied to provide a key for further coats of paint, this is achieved by the absorption of the mist coat into the porous plaster. This mist coat then gives the paint of your choice something to stick to. The remining coats of paint can bo of your choice i.e vinyl or bathroom paint
@@FixitwithFowlerthank you for your quick response. Sorry to ask but I have couple of more questions. Can I use either dulux trade supermatt or matt or is it best to use supermatt? Also would you recommend two coats of mist coat or one mist coat then two coats of top coats on bare plaster. Thanks again
@rumebeti Dulux super matt is brilliant paint and i would highly recommend using it. You only need one mist coat to provide a key for the paint to stick.
@@FixitwithFowler Great! Thank you for the advice. Really appreciate it.
@@FixitwithFowler this is a common Internet myth that you can't use vinyl on new plaster. You're a bit off with your reasoning as to why it might not work tbh. Any of the paint company tech support depts will verify this. Decorator btw, and I just follow the instructions on the tin. Most vinyl matts will work fine on new plaster as long as it's dry.
My plaster looks like that been 2 weeks now and i thought i need to wait for the dark patches yo dissappear, im confused is it dry or not
Hi, i couldn't tell you without looking at it. I would of thought so after 2 weeks!
Which matt paints would you recommend? I've got ceiling and media wall to do
I used dulux matt paint, but any will be ok so long as it's standard matt paint!
Ok thankyou so much, I've seen a lot of matt paints that say emulsion is that ok?
Hi, yes, it is matt emulsion paint you need! Hope that helps!
@@FixitwithFowler I'm being told by plasterer not to use matt for mist coat, only emulsion. And some sort of blend with a bit of skr bonding in there ?
You need to follow the video and only use matt emulsion paint watered down as per the instructions. SKR bonding is not required and could cause a reaction with the paint. Hope that helps!
I need to paint a patch of new plaster on the ceiling can I use dulux diamond Matt diluted with water for the mist coat? Thanks
Hi, if you look at the tin, it should tell you if you can dilute it. Diamond is a Dulux trade paint, and the only difference is that it's hard wearing. The main point is that the paint needs to be matt paint.
@@FixitwithFowler one mist coat is enough or should do more? How long to wait from the mist coat to the proper undiluted coat? Thanks
Hi, one mist coat is enough. Generally speaking, you need to leave it about 2-4 hours
@@FixitwithFowler many thanks I’m learning a lot from your videos, keep them coming! I just subscribed to the channel! 👍
@@FixitwithFowler and when I applied the normal paint shall I give 2 coats? Also how long to wait in between coats ? Thanks
I used silk - is it bad ?
Unfortunately, silk or vinyl paint doesn't work. This is because it creates a film on the top (surface) of the silk pain. This film prevents the paint from being absorbed into the plaster. This can lead to the mist coat cracking and peeling from the plaster.
@@FixitwithFowler what’s the solution & and thank you for answering my question 🙏
Ummm, that's a tough question! The only solution is to sand the paint with a fine sand paper 120 grit, this will provide a key surface for the required mist coat. Remove any dust from the surface and wipe down thoroughly or hoover the areas. Then, proceed to create a mist coat and apply accordingly. Hope that helps!
My builder has advised me to use only matt emulsion paint on new plaster once it gets dry completely. He advise to mix the matt emulsion paint with 40% water. Would you recommend it ??
Hi, you should only use matt emulsion as per my video. It normally states on the paint container the correct ratio to mix the paint with water, and i would recommend you follow those. Hope that helps!
2 questions:
Use matt only for mist coat on fresh plaster, no pva in it...same for plasterboard that's not having a skim?
When ready to paint it's ok to use vinyl paints or you have to stick to matts?
Yes, use only matt emulsion for new plaster. Do not use pva as that creates a barrier and prevents the new paint keying to the new plaster. I dont paint bare plasterboard as i always skim it.
When applying the final coats of paint you can use any paint of your choice.
@@FixitwithFowler ok thanks a lot. Is it ok to paint bare plasterboard though?
@dominic o ́connell you can do but look at drylining for more information
Don't need primer for 1st coat
That's correct 👌, Thanks for your comment 👍
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