Omg I've just done this to my walls, was worried about watching incase i did it wrong, only came on to search getting gloss off door frames then had to subscribe! Doing my house up so gonna have to watchmore videos.
Very helpful, sir, but I would like to know if you can apply brilliant white masonry paint on a bare plaster interior wall? I don't want to apply a top coat and am uncomfortable making a mist coat because I fear getting the water/paint ratio wrong and ruining my new wall.
I probably wouldn't do that, as masonry paint is designed more for going straight on to brick or concrete. You won't ruin your wall, and if it is fresh plaster then you really should mist coat it. Err on the side of more paint to water ratio if you are worried. Too weak a mix would cause problems....it could go chalky.
Thank you for the video. So even though it looks a bit patchy, do you only still do one coat of mist paint? Does the patchyiness effect the actual paint you put on top?
Yes, only one mist coat is required. The top coat is thick enough that it won't be affected by any patching, and especially once the 2nd top coat is on.
Thanks for the clear video! I am repainting a peeling paint wall. I have sanded and filled the area being naughty. Applied my mist coat and first top coat. Obviously, my topcoat has overlapped in areas which are "non problematic", but now some of those "non problematic" areas have bubbled, cracked and peeled! (Devastating!) Once the paint dries, I could sand, mist, and repaint, but I am worried the same will happen again in new "non problematic" spots when my top coat will touch other bits of the wall. It is my inkling that a mist coat was never applied.... Is there any way to finish my job without sanding back the whole wall to the plaster in order to apply a mist coat?? 🤞 Essentially, it's a rental flat and I just want it to be non peeling for a short while. Thanks so much!
A friend of mine had this many many moons ago where he was trying to paint over a pre-painted wall, and it was like the paint reacted with the paint underneath somehow. It may all need rubbing back a bit and even a mist coat, but maybe try a small bit near the bottom in an inconspicuous area first to see how it takes. The problem is you don't know what the existing paint is.
@@charlieshooter Yes, I fear that it may need all sanding back then a good mist- It's only pure white so it matches. I will try and redoing the patches and if it happens again elsewhere, I may just have to bite it and get sanding!
Excellant video. What do you reccommed if just a part of my wall is plastered? I had one of those old in wall ACs and had it removed and the whole plastered up. The rest of the wall has been previously painted. Should I mist coat the whole wall or just the plastered section?
I'd always use white. For a start it's usually cheaper. It will give you a good base to get the top coat looking like it's supposed to. And it helps show up any imperfections.
Thank you for the brilliant video. Really helpful. Please an I ask if a lime plastered wall should also have a mist coat, and if I should use a specialist paint fore lime plater. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Just say u had plaster done but u left it for few months before you paint it do u still do most coat as it’s not as fresh or is it still fresh plaster until u paint
If you spot them before the mist coat then fill them then. The mist coat will cover the filler too then. But if you don't spot them until after it won't make much difference really.
The mist coat would be done the same, with the same type of paint as shown. The top coat is what matters, best to use a paint specific for bathrooms....but in all honesty I've had normal paint in a bathroom and it's been fine.
@@user..Aa..Bb.. Bad! We had wallpaper on our walls in the bathroom and it looked like we had damp where it went a bit black. Took the wallpaper off and painted it and it has never gone black since. I think the paper holds in the moisture.
Good video ! I just removed woodchip from my bedroom walls and ceiling. I've got one one wall that had some deep holes (down to the brick), and some cracks in the plaster around the window. This has all been backfilled and finished off with Easifill . The rest of the wall had a dark green paint under the woodchip. Should I use something to seal off the large patches of Easifill prior to painting, or should I just do a mist coat on the entire wall ? I'm thinking if I do the whole wall with mist coat that may help stop any issues with new paint reacting badly with the old paint that was under the paper? Any help appreciated 🙏🙂
Thanks, a good video..... I used crown Matt emulsion for my mist coat, & I am left with a chalky residue, that won’t go away. I gave the wall a few coats of mist coat, as I didn’t think that would do it any harm, now I am concerned about what will happen once I apply my top costs. How do you deal with this residue that doesn’t seem to disappear?! I have wiped & brushed the walls, but it still come off on my hands?! Thanks
Strange....was the plaster wiped down before the mist coat? Try your top coat in an inconspicuous area and see what happens. I would have thought it'll be fine though. I hope so.....I've just bought Crown white emulsion to do my freshly plastered living room!!
@@charlieshooter thanks for the reply.....Yes, it was wiped down, as I am looking for that nice flat finish, so I have taken the time.. Yes, you are right, I will try my top coat on an inconspicuous wall, before I proceed further. Please, let me know how you get on with the crown....maybe there was something I missed. I will be contacting Crown tomorrow anyway, as this could turn out to be a big job 🤨 Kind regards Lee
It depends if there's any heating. Ours took a week to 10 days. You may be better of leaving it 2 weeks. You want the plaster to go a nice light pinky colour.....you'll know!
A few people have asked this lately. I'm sure you can use any colour, but a few reasons to use white. It's cheaper. It helps show up any imperfections in the plaster. It gives a good bright base coat to get the top colour on to. It's easier to spot where you have missed with white on plaster and then your top coat on white. (If that makes sense!)
Say if I wanted a different colour wall, say grey? Do I still use the white contract matt as a mist coat then paint the grey on top, or do I just simply water down the grey paint and use that as a mist coat???
It all depends if the house is occupied, heating etc, but I would give it a week usually to be sure. You'll know when all the plaster is the same colour and has gone a lighter colour.
@@charlieshooter Thanks Charlie - yeah after a week all the plaster was the same lighter colour & just put on my mist coat & looking good for the top coats! Thanks for the reply!
@@darrenmorgan6735 You may get away with that, I have had that happen to me in the past and it's been fine, but I definitely think it's caused by too much water.
@@charlieshooter I did Charlie. 35 years of paint & plaster came tumbling down. Not sure where to start. Plaster is the issue. Wonder if the rest of the room will follow, also.
Thanks for that - a question, I have rooms where I am taking off old wallpaper and painting instead. Once I have got the paper off, wiped down with sugar soap to remove paste residue, covered any cracks etc, sanded down imperfections...can I just go right ahead and do like you do here ?
Hi, I'm about to do the same. Is one coat of must enough? I thought I has to do it twice? I'm doing 70/30 as I've got Wilkos own white paint (looks like your tub of paint I think)
@@shazlindsay29 I knew what you meant, don't worry! One mist coat is fine. If you want to do a coat of white (unwatered down) between mist coat and top colour you can, but I never have.
I used Crown matt emulsion. I've always found it really good, and it keeps really well if you don't use it all too! Here is a link..... amzn.to/2SDxwgO
My quastion is 1. Which paint is best for mist coat on new plaster. 2. After 1st mist coat on new plaster how much would be the ratio of mist coat and water for 2nd mist coat Pls explain me Thanks
I used Crown, but any white emulsion watered down will be fine. The cheaper paint the thinner it will be so be mindful of that. No need for 2 mist coats, just the one. Then straight on with the first coat of your final colour.
@@charlieshooter I feel I might have made a error I don't feel I've added enough water and I have used Johnstone trade Vinyl Matt, I'm hearing mixed things on vinyl Matt so saying it's okay others saying it isn't any advice please.
@@paullynch928 I've never used vinyl, and I don't think you'll get the best results with that. If you feel you haven't got enough water at any point though, just add some more.
Hi buddy, I have some of my paint peeling off the wall with a frosty like substance coming out of the wall. Not sure what the issue is, any suggestions?
That could be a bit of damp or it could be the wall surface hadn't been prepped properly. If it has peeled right back to the plaster, try scraping away the paint and rubbing it all back with some sand paper, and then applying a mist coat, followed by two coats of your chosen colour. Try that first and see how you get on.
@@charlieshooter l've sanded the plaster but it still happens but I think it's due to the plaster being so thin. I do have a wall that didn't take paint and when I removed it the wall feels like glass.
No, you would still use matt paint as a mist coat. It provides a much better surface to paint your chosen colour on too. Silk doesn't soak in to the plaster like matt paint does. Best of luck!
Vinyl silk has a greater amount of vinyl(plastic polymer) in it, preventing it from soaking in and it ends up sitting ontop of the plaster like a skin that will inevitably peel off in the future .
Well explained, nice pace...but that mist is far too thin, 50/50 is too much water, especially in what loooks like crown retail matt, it will break the binder down and leave the surface chalky, which is likely to cause problems with the next coats. No paint company suggests that amount of water
Thanks for taking the time to comment. I've used this method on a number of walls in the house now, and it has worked great without any problems. Obviously different paints will require different ratios though.
Its not always a problem straight away, but can be at some point in the future when it comes to redecorating. The only paint that might take 50/50 is dulux supermatt...but personally I wouldnt even risk that. Handy having one of those whisk attachments, takes a lot of work out of the mixing, I'll have to invest in one.
That's part of a set from an Aldi special buy! I've painted two coats over with Dulux Matt....and the one room has been redecorated since too, so all seems fine. 👍🏼
@@davyboy4515 well you've been doing it wrong for years...half an half, by ratio is 100%...but dont take my word for it, I've only been decorating 45 years...ring a paint company and ask if half an half is ok...let me know what they say👍
mist coat... mist coat!!! i will be calling it, missed coat, because i missed this step and now when trying to paint a second coat on my ceiling the paint started coming off onto the roller! what a nightmare. so am in the process now of basically wetting the whole ceiling, scraping off the previous coat down to bare plaster and start over. wish i saw this tip, because this has set me back 2 days!! cant fit the shower or units in until the ceiling is done 😔😔
Hi, we have mist coated new plaster, which was thoroughly dry. Looking at your video, we did it correctly. However when we run a hand over it, we end up with powder on our hands 🙄. Any ideas?
Hmm, is there much white coming off? I can't say I've noticed that before. Maybe try another coat (of mist coat) in an inconspicuous area to see if that rights it?
@@charlieshooter thanks for your reply. It's not alot as such, but each time a finger or hand is smoothed across it, it leaves a powdery residue on the hand. We tried going over part of it with more mist, it immediately looked translucent, almost a grey colour, but dried white. I have done a top coat in an inconspicuous area and touch wood that seems ok. Our decorator friend thinks maybe the paint had been sat on the shop shelf for a long time and had maybe lost something in its makeup. Can't remember what he said exactly, something about bonding I think. So frustrating. Just re-read his msg, he said maybe it has lost its binding coat.
@@charlieshooter fast forward a week........we had to completely remove all the mist coat, which came off with a wet sponge. We are now trying armstead contract Matt, 2 little areas to test and fingers x'd it seems ok. What a nightmare. By the way, what paint were you using in the video? Ours says, 5 parts paint to 1 part water.
Jesus help me? Use a bigger roller 12 inch 15 inch. On a short pole. Much much quicker. A pro painter wouldnt be seen dead using a 9 inch. Cheap 9 inch at that, The only thing that is good for is ..... The skip.
The video isn't to show what "pro painters" would do, I'd hope they would know!! It's for DIYers, who are having a go themselves, with what is most readily available....which here in the UK is a 9" roller. Thanks for commenting though!
@@charlieshooter I guess your intention is admirable but what you've done in this video is show people how to do this job incorrectly. Mist coating is made way more complicated by most DIYers and this just feeds into that. I'm a decorator and wouldn't do a video about plumbing so it's baffling why there are so many 'DIY experts' who think they need to pass on this lack of knowledge to others for them to the job poorly as well.
@@madeupname "Enthusiast"....not "expert" 😉 and I'd say the advice given is pretty sound! If what you say is true, and you are a decorator, then it begs the question....why are you watching videos on TH-cam on how to mist coat?? 🤷🏽♂️ Thanks for watching though! 👍🏼
@CharlieShooters KnowHow A friend sent me the link asking if this was the right way to go about it. Happy to share how you could improve but not sure if there is a character limit here
Been watching several videos to get advice on this. Yours is the best so far. Infact I now feel ready to go ahead.
Brilliant, go for it, you'll be fine! Thanks for leaving a comment! 👍🏼
@@charlieshooter cheers.
Great , i find for my as a novice plaster the mist coat show the bits to fill ;) great upload.
Thanks, pleased it was able to help you out!
Oh I've got a whole attic room to do ceiling and walls am in for a lot of misting lol. Glad I saw this video before heading on paint happy.
I hope it helps you out! 👍🏼
Omg I've just done this to my walls, was worried about watching incase i did it wrong, only came on to search getting gloss off door frames then had to subscribe! Doing my house up so gonna have to watchmore videos.
Welcome to the channel. I promise I'll be uploading more regularly soon! Good luck with the renovation!
Very helpful, sir, but I would like to know if you can apply brilliant white masonry paint on a bare plaster interior wall? I don't want to apply a top coat and am uncomfortable making a mist coat because I fear getting the water/paint ratio wrong and ruining my new wall.
I probably wouldn't do that, as masonry paint is designed more for going straight on to brick or concrete.
You won't ruin your wall, and if it is fresh plaster then you really should mist coat it. Err on the side of more paint to water ratio if you are worried. Too weak a mix would cause problems....it could go chalky.
Great video …. Please what paint do you recommend to use after this. I am looking for something durable , as it’s a rental property.
I've always used Dulux, but the latest "normal" tin was a bit thin when applying. Go for the Easycare version as it is a lot better!
Thank you for the video. So even though it looks a bit patchy, do you only still do one coat of mist paint? Does the patchyiness effect the actual paint you put on top?
Yes, only one mist coat is required. The top coat is thick enough that it won't be affected by any patching, and especially once the 2nd top coat is on.
Glad you made this comment. I have the same patchiness after my most coat and the wife thinks I need to do another most coat
Yep, just the one mist coat will be fine. 👍🏼
That was so helpful, thank you very much.
No problem, glad it helped! 👍🏼
Greetings from Scotland, brilliant video thanks
Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment for a fellow Celt.👍🏼
To the point.. Non nonsense... Thanks for uploading this video...Great help.. Jobs a goodin indeed :-)
Cheers! Glad it helped! 👍🏼
Just what I needed to see. I'll be doing a ceiling and two walls this weekend.
Also. Does it have to be a matt emulsion? I have leftover silk I was hoping to use?
Yes it needs to be matt emulsion, silk won't work....sorry! Glad you liked the vid!
This was super helpful, thank you!
Pleased to hear it....thanks for leaving a comment! 👍🏼
Thanks for the clear video! I am repainting a peeling paint wall. I have sanded and filled the area being naughty. Applied my mist coat and first top coat.
Obviously, my topcoat has overlapped in areas which are "non problematic", but now some of those "non problematic" areas have bubbled, cracked and peeled! (Devastating!)
Once the paint dries, I could sand, mist, and repaint, but I am worried the same will happen again in new "non problematic" spots when my top coat will touch other bits of the wall.
It is my inkling that a mist coat was never applied.... Is there any way to finish my job without sanding back the whole wall to the plaster in order to apply a mist coat?? 🤞
Essentially, it's a rental flat and I just want it to be non peeling for a short while.
Thanks so much!
A friend of mine had this many many moons ago where he was trying to paint over a pre-painted wall, and it was like the paint reacted with the paint underneath somehow. It may all need rubbing back a bit and even a mist coat, but maybe try a small bit near the bottom in an inconspicuous area first to see how it takes. The problem is you don't know what the existing paint is.
@@charlieshooter Yes, I fear that it may need all sanding back then a good mist- It's only pure white so it matches. I will try and redoing the patches and if it happens again elsewhere, I may just have to bite it and get sanding!
Very helpful. Thanks Charlie
No problem. Thanks for commenting. 👍🏼
I've found a brush puts a better mist coat on but obviously it takes a lot longer
I'm not sure I could bring myself to use a brush for a whole wall. I fing a roller a lot easier!
Knowledge is power. Thanks for the upload m8
No probs. Thanks for watching!
Excellant video. What do you reccommed if just a part of my wall is plastered? I had one of those old in wall ACs and had it removed and the whole plastered up. The rest of the wall has been previously painted. Should I mist coat the whole wall or just the plastered section?
Just the plastered section will be fine and maybe overlap it on to the old paint a bit.
Would you always use white for your mist coat? Or would you try and use something close to the top coat colour? Or just no difference?
I'd always use white. For a start it's usually cheaper. It will give you a good base to get the top coat looking like it's supposed to. And it helps show up any imperfections.
how long do I wait before I can add the colours after this stage?
I'd always leave it at least 24hrs before a first coat of the final colour.
Thank you for the brilliant video. Really helpful. Please an I ask if a lime plastered wall should also have a mist coat, and if I should use a specialist paint fore lime plater. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
I've never had to do it but I understand you need to dampen the wall first and then paint as in the video. I may be corrected there.
Thank you. I really appreciate the reply.
Nice one, really helpful.
Thank you. Glad I could help.
How long should you wait between the two mist coats, or between the mist coat, and full coat. Thanks.
I usually go by whatever the paint says it takes to dry. Probably OK after 4-6 hours but i usually leave it until the next day.
Great video, very helpful - thanks!
No probs, glad you found it useful!
Just say u had plaster done but u left it for few months before you paint it do u still do most coat as it’s not as fresh or is it still fresh plaster until u paint
Yes you'd still do a mist coat. This was left a little while before doing it actually. The plaster will still suck up the mist coat.
@@charlieshooter thanks a lot 👍🏼
Very helpful video. Cheers mate. Liked and subscribed.
Thank you. Glad you like the vids! 👍🏼
Nice vid.
Should any dips on the surface of newly skimmed plaster be filled in (polyfilla etc.) before or after a mist coat?
Cheers
If you spot them before the mist coat then fill them then. The mist coat will cover the filler too then. But if you don't spot them until after it won't make much difference really.
Cheers mate a great help
Glad you found it useful. Thanks for commenting.
Thanks for the helpful video can I ask do you need to wait 24 hours once the mist coat is applied before doing your 2 main coats ?
I always tend to leave it that long, but I think after 4 or 5 hours it would be ready.
I mist coat then lightly sand it as the mist coat high lights any imperfections and fill any dodgy bits 👌🏻👊🏻
Yes a light sanding won't do any harm! 👍🏼
Great job. What can i use for bathroom ceiling and walls
The mist coat would be done the same, with the same type of paint as shown. The top coat is what matters, best to use a paint specific for bathrooms....but in all honesty I've had normal paint in a bathroom and it's been fine.
@@charlieshooter thank you so much.
@@charlieshooter wanted to make the room waterproof. What's your thoughts on bathroom ceiling wallpaper. Good or bad.
@@user..Aa..Bb.. Bad! We had wallpaper on our walls in the bathroom and it looked like we had damp where it went a bit black. Took the wallpaper off and painted it and it has never gone black since. I think the paper holds in the moisture.
@@charlieshooter appreciate your help. Keep up the good work.
Paint job not going well could istill do a mist coat
Yes, I've done some over old paint before....although its primary use is to seal in the plaster.
Good video ! I just removed woodchip from my bedroom walls and ceiling.
I've got one one wall that had some deep holes (down to the brick), and some cracks in the plaster around the window. This has all been backfilled and finished off with Easifill . The rest of the wall had a dark green paint under the woodchip.
Should I use something to seal off the large patches of Easifill prior to painting, or should I just do a mist coat on the entire wall ? I'm thinking if I do the whole wall with mist coat that may help stop any issues with new paint reacting badly with the old paint that was under the paper? Any help appreciated 🙏🙂
Yes, I would just mist coat the entire wall so you know the whole wall has a nice base coat. No special treatment for the filled area.
@@charlieshooter perfect thanks for getting back to me 👍🏻
No probs! Hope it helps!
Thanks, a good video..... I used crown Matt emulsion for my mist coat, & I am left with a chalky residue, that won’t go away. I gave the wall a few coats of mist coat, as I didn’t think that would do it any harm, now I am concerned about what will happen once I apply my top costs.
How do you deal with this residue that doesn’t seem to disappear?! I have wiped & brushed the walls, but it still come off on my hands?!
Thanks
Strange....was the plaster wiped down before the mist coat? Try your top coat in an inconspicuous area and see what happens. I would have thought it'll be fine though. I hope so.....I've just bought Crown white emulsion to do my freshly plastered living room!!
@@charlieshooter thanks for the reply.....Yes, it was wiped down, as I am looking for that nice flat finish, so I have taken the time..
Yes, you are right, I will try my top coat on an inconspicuous wall, before I proceed further.
Please, let me know how you get on with the crown....maybe there was something I missed.
I will be contacting Crown tomorrow anyway, as this could turn out to be a big job 🤨
Kind regards
Lee
@@leedangerfield9813 I'll let you know! Good luck!
How long would you leave plaster to dry in unfunished empty property renovation after plaster done december early january
It depends if there's any heating. Ours took a week to 10 days. You may be better of leaving it 2 weeks. You want the plaster to go a nice light pinky colour.....you'll know!
Can i paint over skimmed walls with water trail marks on (from trowling) or should i put lining paper on first
That should be fine to paint over. If it causes an issue, give it a light rub back with some sand paper.
Hi. Do i need to use white paint for mist coat or it can be any colour matt emulsion?
A few people have asked this lately. I'm sure you can use any colour, but a few reasons to use white.
It's cheaper.
It helps show up any imperfections in the plaster.
It gives a good bright base coat to get the top colour on to.
It's easier to spot where you have missed with white on plaster and then your top coat on white. (If that makes sense!)
@@charlieshooter thanks 🙂👍
@@charlieshooter also, wickes is selling new plaster matt emulsion. Have you ever tried it? It has good reviews.
@@krakadylius1 I've never used it, but Wickes stuff is usually pretty good though!
Say if I wanted a different colour wall, say grey?
Do I still use the white contract matt as a mist coat then paint the grey on top, or do I just simply water down the grey paint and use that as a mist coat???
I always use the white as a mist coat. It's cheaper, and you get a nice light surface to paint your top coat on, so you get the intended colour.
@@charlieshooter okay thanks!
Thank you! Great video, very helpful. But now I have, 'There's a hole in my bucket dear Liza, dear Liza" stuck in my head 😂
Surprised there hasn't been more comments about that! 😂
do you ever strain your paints even with mist coat weather if its old or new paints?
I've never had to strain emulsion before....gloss I did once, to get rid of the skin and lumps, but not emulsion usually!
@@charlieshooter even when spraying?
@@garethdavies7564 I have only ever used aerosols to spray paint so no i haven't.
how long after plastering can you paint the mist coat would you say? Eg in winter
It all depends if the house is occupied, heating etc, but I would give it a week usually to be sure. You'll know when all the plaster is the same colour and has gone a lighter colour.
@@charlieshooter Thanks Charlie - yeah after a week all the plaster was the same lighter colour & just put on my mist coat & looking good for the top coats! Thanks for the reply!
Perfect...great to hear!
How soon after mist coat can you paint
The same as any normal coat of paint. They say 4-6hrs usually, but I usually leave it 24hrs!
Will it turn to powder when it dries out,??? Or have I got the mix wrong
No it shouldn't be powdery when it's dry. May need a little less water.
@@charlieshooter when I rub my hand over it there's powder on my hand after I rubbed it with my hand. Too much water? But the paint stays on it
@@darrenmorgan6735 You may get away with that, I have had that happen to me in the past and it's been fine, but I definitely think it's caused by too much water.
What type of sleeve are you using for each coat?
I use a short pile, as I like the smooth finish you get. Medium would probably also be ok.
Hi I can do one coat of the white mist with matt paint then when it dried I can do 2 coats of what ever paint I like
Basically...yes! 👍🏼
thanks great help
You're welcome, thanks for leaving a comment!
If the plasterer has trowelled the wall too much. You need to sand it,to provide a key. Otherwise the paint wont adhere. Mist coat or not?
If he has shined up the wall too much you'll have trouble getting the paint to take tidy yes.
What a mess. Paint & plaster peeling off the wall? Really? You make it look so easy. Thanks.
Have you had that trouble? What went wrong? Poor plaster maybe??
@@charlieshooter I did Charlie. 35 years of paint & plaster came tumbling down. Not sure where to start. Plaster is the issue. Wonder if the rest of the room will follow, also.
Hack it all off and get it replastered!
Thanks for that - a question, I have rooms where I am taking off old wallpaper and painting instead. Once I have got the paper off, wiped down with sugar soap to remove paste residue, covered any cracks etc, sanded down imperfections...can I just go right ahead and do like you do here ?
Yes, I don't see why not. Just in case there's some bare plaster under there, a coat of mist coat should sort it.
Hi, I'm about to do the same. Is one coat of must enough? I thought I has to do it twice? I'm doing 70/30 as I've got Wilkos own white paint (looks like your tub of paint I think)
God my typos 🤣😂 I meant I thought I had to do 2 coats of mist paint...
@@shazlindsay29 I knew what you meant, don't worry! One mist coat is fine. If you want to do a coat of white (unwatered down) between mist coat and top colour you can, but I never have.
@@charlieshooter Thank you so much for your reply 😘
@@shazlindsay29 No problem.
can you tell me what paint you have used please ? whats the brand name a link would be so helpful
I used Crown matt emulsion. I've always found it really good, and it keeps really well if you don't use it all too! Here is a link..... amzn.to/2SDxwgO
How many litres of undercoat will it take to do upstairs with 3 bedroom house.
Absolutely no idea! It obviously depends on the size of the rooms. Each tin of paint will have a guide as to how much it will cover.
How do you stop bubbles in lining paper when painting it.
I've never used lining paper to be honest, so not sure sorry.
My quastion is
1. Which paint is best for mist coat on new plaster.
2. After 1st mist coat on new plaster how much would be the ratio of mist coat and water for 2nd mist coat
Pls explain me
Thanks
I used Crown, but any white emulsion watered down will be fine. The cheaper paint the thinner it will be so be mindful of that.
No need for 2 mist coats, just the one. Then straight on with the first coat of your final colour.
@@charlieshooter thanks for the information.
Can i use dulux or layland emulsion for mist cost?
@@JaspalSingh-lc4ym Yes, both those would be fine.
@@charlieshooter this will really help me.thanks a lot mr. Charlie
Cut in the walls first just like you would if you were painting your top coat, use an extension pole it’s much easier.
I always cut in after, but I dont think there's any strict rules on it. Thanks for watching!
Do I just paint over the mist coat with normal paint now
Yes, once the mist coat is on, you can paint two coats of your final colour.
I have done the first mist coat and thin the painting but now do I need to add water in the paint second coat
No, once the mist coat is done, you can paint the other coats without watering them down.
@@charlieshooter thank you for reply back I put second coat mat white painting .so can use 3 coat silk paint because got kids make the wall dirt.
@@charlieshooter I feel I might have made a error I don't feel I've added enough water and I have used Johnstone trade Vinyl Matt, I'm hearing mixed things on vinyl Matt so saying it's okay others saying it isn't any advice please.
@@paullynch928 I've never used vinyl, and I don't think you'll get the best results with that. If you feel you haven't got enough water at any point though, just add some more.
Can you just use an undercoat and primer instead?
No, not on plaster. On wood yes you could.
Hi buddy, I have some of my paint peeling off the wall with a frosty like substance coming out of the wall. Not sure what the issue is, any suggestions?
That could be a bit of damp or it could be the wall surface hadn't been prepped properly. If it has peeled right back to the plaster, try scraping away the paint and rubbing it all back with some sand paper, and then applying a mist coat, followed by two coats of your chosen colour. Try that first and see how you get on.
sounds like efflorescence
What is that corner thing called!?
It is literally called a corner roller. If you google that, some will come up.
Would you know what you can paint on bare plaster if pva comes through the plaster once wet.
I dont think it should come through the plaster?
@@charlieshooter When you wet the wall it goes shiny and slippery like pva.
Maybe rough it up with some sand paper? The paint won't take if it's too polished.
@@charlieshooter l've sanded the plaster but it still happens but I think it's due to the plaster being so thin. I do have a wall that didn't take paint and when I removed it the wall feels like glass.
@@hardworker8030 Yes, that will definitely happen if it's too polished, and if the plaster is that thin, then that's not good either!
why cant they put pour spouts on paint buckets :( .. great tutorial
Some have a small kind of spout, but not always!
How would the fool proof lid go on and be air tight?
What is 1 part water to 3 parts emulsion paint?
For example, 500ml water and 1500ml of paint.
I want to paint my walls in silk, should I still be using matt paint as a mist coat or is silk ok to use?
No, you would still use matt paint as a mist coat. It provides a much better surface to paint your chosen colour on too. Silk doesn't soak in to the plaster like matt paint does. Best of luck!
Vinyl silk has a greater amount of vinyl(plastic polymer) in it, preventing it from soaking in and it ends up sitting ontop of the plaster like a skin that will inevitably peel off in the future .
@@JoeProDecor I think that's what the previous occupier has done in our kitchen!! 🙈
@@charlieshooter ☹ once the seal is broke somewhere, it started to peel off like a skin
@@JoeProDecor Yep....that's exactly what has happened!
Well explained, nice pace...but that mist is far too thin, 50/50 is too much water, especially in what loooks like crown retail matt, it will break the binder down and leave the surface chalky, which is likely to cause problems with the next coats. No paint company suggests that amount of water
Thanks for taking the time to comment. I've used this method on a number of walls in the house now, and it has worked great without any problems. Obviously different paints will require different ratios though.
Its not always a problem straight away, but can be at some point in the future when it comes to redecorating.
The only paint that might take 50/50 is dulux supermatt...but personally I wouldnt even risk that.
Handy having one of those whisk attachments, takes a lot of work out of the mixing, I'll have to invest in one.
That's part of a set from an Aldi special buy! I've painted two coats over with Dulux Matt....and the one room has been redecorated since too, so all seems fine. 👍🏼
Nonsense, been using this ratio for years, no problems
@@davyboy4515 well you've been doing it wrong for years...half an half, by ratio is 100%...but dont take my word for it, I've only been decorating 45 years...ring a paint company and ask if half an half is ok...let me know what they say👍
mist coat... mist coat!!! i will be calling it, missed coat, because i missed this step and now when trying to paint a second coat on my ceiling the paint started coming off onto the roller!
what a nightmare.
so am in the process now of basically wetting the whole ceiling, scraping off the previous coat down to bare plaster and start over.
wish i saw this tip, because this has set me back 2 days!! cant fit the shower or units in until the ceiling is done 😔😔
Oh man! Glad the video helped you out....even if it was a little bit late! 🙈
Hi, we have mist coated new plaster, which was thoroughly dry. Looking at your video, we did it correctly. However when we run a hand over it, we end up with powder on our hands 🙄. Any ideas?
Hmm, is there much white coming off? I can't say I've noticed that before. Maybe try another coat (of mist coat) in an inconspicuous area to see if that rights it?
@@charlieshooter thanks for your reply. It's not alot as such, but each time a finger or hand is smoothed across it, it leaves a powdery residue on the hand. We tried going over part of it with more mist, it immediately looked translucent, almost a grey colour, but dried white. I have done a top coat in an inconspicuous area and touch wood that seems ok. Our decorator friend thinks maybe the paint had been sat on the shop shelf for a long time and had maybe lost something in its makeup. Can't remember what he said exactly, something about bonding I think. So frustrating. Just re-read his msg, he said maybe it has lost its binding coat.
Maybe there was an issue with the paint. If your top coat has gone on ok I wouldnt worry too much about it.
@@charlieshooter fast forward a week........we had to completely remove all the mist coat, which came off with a wet sponge. We are now trying armstead contract Matt, 2 little areas to test and fingers x'd it seems ok. What a nightmare. By the way, what paint were you using in the video? Ours says, 5 parts paint to 1 part water.
Oh dear! At least it's getting sorted now. I used Crown Matt White Emulsion. I find it the best.
I’d be cutting in first and should of done the ceilings first
Get a bigger roller with a pole
All brands of paint,have a technical helpline telephone number,printed on the can. Give them a call?
Yes, you could. Good idea!
mate get yourself a 2-4ft extension pole your going to give yourself a back ache
Haha! I've always found you can't get the pressure right with them!
Nenek aku pun tahu
I’d be cutting in first
Each to their own. Thanks for watching.
Jesus help me? Use a bigger roller 12 inch 15 inch. On a short pole. Much much quicker. A pro painter wouldnt be seen dead using a 9 inch. Cheap 9 inch at that, The only thing that is good for is ..... The skip.
The video isn't to show what "pro painters" would do, I'd hope they would know!! It's for DIYers, who are having a go themselves, with what is most readily available....which here in the UK is a 9" roller. Thanks for commenting though!
Took you long enough with a 9 inch roller 🙄😂
Slow and steady... 😂
Definitely not a painter then
Nope....just a DIY enthusiast trying to help out others! 👍🏼
@@charlieshooter I guess your intention is admirable but what you've done in this video is show people how to do this job incorrectly. Mist coating is made way more complicated by most DIYers and this just feeds into that. I'm a decorator and wouldn't do a video about plumbing so it's baffling why there are so many 'DIY experts' who think they need to pass on this lack of knowledge to others for them to the job poorly as well.
@@madeupname "Enthusiast"....not "expert" 😉 and I'd say the advice given is pretty sound! If what you say is true, and you are a decorator, then it begs the question....why are you watching videos on TH-cam on how to mist coat?? 🤷🏽♂️ Thanks for watching though! 👍🏼
@CharlieShooters KnowHow A friend sent me the link asking if this was the right way to go about it. Happy to share how you could improve but not sure if there is a character limit here
@@madeupname Crack on....I don't think there is!