Tory party tearing itself apart as right-wingers steal each other’s votes

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  • “Robert Jenrick has stolen all of Priti Patel’s people, hasn’t he, and Suella Braverman’s people as well?”
    The Tory leadership election will be “a long slog” as the right side of the party have not pushed forward a clear frontrunner, says The Sunday Times columnist Charlotte Ivers.
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  • @Pigblossom
    @Pigblossom หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    The funny thing is how quickly the Tory leadership contest seems utterly irrelevant

    • @simonfernandes6809
      @simonfernandes6809 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The next Tory Prime Minister is not one of the current MPs.

  • @martinradcliffe4798
    @martinradcliffe4798 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    Given the party membership's last choice was Liz Truss, it may not be unfair to say that hopes are not high.....

    • @stephenjackson1828
      @stephenjackson1828 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I’m amazed given the memberships track record they’re going to let them vote on it! 😂

  • @Geoff31818
    @Geoff31818 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    It’s astounding how friendly the times are still being towards the tories

    • @willduffay2207
      @willduffay2207 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Their beef with Labour was that VAT on public schools was anti aspirational. That's how out of touch the Times is.

  • @midlandgeordie
    @midlandgeordie หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Hopefully the continued decline of the incompetent Tories 🤞

  • @danmayberry1185
    @danmayberry1185 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    'I saw how grotesquely unqualified so many of us were.' - Rory Stewart, 2020 (!)

    • @JelMain
      @JelMain หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's because he had a front-row seat of me in action five years earlier. He already knew my capability as I laid the ground rules for much of his early career, and then saw me in action in 2015, resulting in Dom Cummings' search for weirdos and misfits in 2020 - I'd been trashed with the best and was disordered from CPTSD as a result.

  • @dub604
    @dub604 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    Rats in a sack. 😂🍿🥳🍷😂

    • @howdan1985
      @howdan1985 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😂😂😂 well said!

  • @markhayward7400
    @markhayward7400 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    None of the suggested Tory leadership contenders that have emerged so far have any understanding either of how angry voters are with the Tories or how divorced from the real world interests and concerns of voters they are.
    If the Tories are ever to be a major force in British politics again, they have to reconnect with the centre ground of public opinion.

    • @maewest68
      @maewest68 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Only Boris Johnson won a clear majority. He was not "in the centre ground". Get over yourselves, "centrists".

    • @howdan1985
      @howdan1985 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Spot on Mark. Apart from Suella Braverman (who humbly acknowledged that the Tories neither lowered taxes nor reduced illegal immigration) none of the Nasty Party has admitted or faced up to what they did wrong over the past 14 years.

  • @annishilcock4587
    @annishilcock4587 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    I don't think the nation is as transfixed with the leadership contest as Times Radio is.

    • @31Blaize
      @31Blaize หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Agreed. Although maybe they have a secret stash of popcorn back there.

    • @JelMain
      @JelMain หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The funny thing is they have no leaders. A leader is charismatic, able to motivate the nation to follow me. Cleverly may be a Colonel, but Sharpe he is not.

    • @dw-yl3ln
      @dw-yl3ln หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Mel Stride not setting your world on fire?

    • @detectiverick9934
      @detectiverick9934 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      To be fair, I am interested in it but just because I want to see the tory party tear itself apart yet again

    • @JelMain
      @JelMain หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@detectiverick9934 Well, they haven't gone completely yet, but this is simply a demonstration that some people have their party so integrated into their persona that they'll only stop voting for them once six feet under. That means fifty years from here.

  • @TM1337FalconPunch
    @TM1337FalconPunch หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Gotta love when you describe a Tory doing precisely nothing impressive as "quietly competent" in the same sentence

  • @davidhall7744
    @davidhall7744 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Mel Stride channelling Francis Urquhart 😂 Does anybody apart from the Tories actually care whatever old nag is shackled to lead the Tory cart? 😂

  • @musicman5075
    @musicman5075 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Joining the tory party now will not give you a say in who the next PM will be because their next leader will not become PM. It will, however, mean you only have an 83% chance of living till 2029

  • @robertnewton6454
    @robertnewton6454 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Bugs bunny
    Mickey mouse
    Donald duck
    Have all stated that they will not be endorsing
    Robert jenryk

  • @garyholyhead
    @garyholyhead หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Tories are like a bunch of duds from the Apprentice, That show has a lot to answer for

    • @anonUK
      @anonUK หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      If I ran the BBC, I would let The Apprentice continue on condition that it replaced the theme tune with the OFAH theme, bc that reflects most of the candidates.

  • @PassiveAgressive319
    @PassiveAgressive319 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I would join just to vote against Badenoch😅😅😅

    • @elvishprincess321
      @elvishprincess321 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes I don't think she has any real talent at all, no idea what others see in her? Tom Tugendhat seemed to be the one with about the most skill & ability.

  • @andrewgreen5892
    @andrewgreen5892 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Lol no the EU is not going to "do Rwanda" and anyone who thinks so should not be taken seriously

  • @mauricetucker8754
    @mauricetucker8754 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    What about a policy on social services local government housing, tax ,brixit,?

  • @smarcier2719
    @smarcier2719 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Closing the hatch after the good ship incompetence has sunk 🚢 ?

  • @alanthe2
    @alanthe2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    We should just have compulsory migration for everyone. Every ten years staggered, every single person has to move to a different country. Problem solved.

  • @jimmcguiggan1188
    @jimmcguiggan1188 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for all your work Rishi..... well done,your love of our country shines through in all the help you gave us and all the fulfilled promises. Great luck.

  • @grahamnewton4381
    @grahamnewton4381 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Tory leadership issue is about as relevant as which socks I will wear tomorrow. Reform sent a message which the Tories ignore at their peril. Trying to patch up the divide and struggle on will see even further decline.

    • @simonfernandes6809
      @simonfernandes6809 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm going for the blue socks tomorrow. No! The red socks...this is so hard.

  • @woodencreatures
    @woodencreatures หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maybe 'bland competence' would have been better than spectacular incompetence over the last 14 years, no?

  • @harveybrown37
    @harveybrown37 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How delicious!

  • @thehealinggame
    @thehealinggame หลายเดือนก่อน

    Half of them should be in prison.

    • @GafftheHorse
      @GafftheHorse หลายเดือนก่อน

      Only half?

  • @JelMain
    @JelMain หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Anyone got some drainbuster? They mean a long clog.

  • @BrianWMay
    @BrianWMay หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well they've torn the country apart. Their tenure was SO bad Labour have got in with an absolute majority so it's going to get worse.
    We have ineffective Tories to thank for that, they couldn't even put their differences aside to ensure Labour didn't get in.
    As an ex Tory Party member, I will NEVER vote Conservative again.

  • @GPR111
    @GPR111 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The unravelling continues. Good.

  • @stevec6232
    @stevec6232 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Grant Shapps ie Michael Green? Is this some sort of joke? Tories really are in trouble

  • @charlespirate1
    @charlespirate1 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mel stride. Lol

  • @CA_I
    @CA_I หลายเดือนก่อน

    Stride wants to keep up his media appearances.

  • @marvinc9994
    @marvinc9994 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just a whimsical thought on my part, but I think Benjamin Disraeli would make quite a good Tory leader at this time. Anyone savvy enough to purchase a large interest in the Suez Canal has MY vote, at any rate - and he certainly couldn't be any worse than the last four, surely?😀 On the other hand, however, if David Lammy could possibly be persuaded to cross the floor of the House (like Churchill)...

  • @JupiterThunder
    @JupiterThunder หลายเดือนก่อน

    What right-wingers?

  • @rossmurray6849
    @rossmurray6849 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The MPs will pick one from the right and one from the left. Note that it only takes one-third plus one, or 41 out of 121 Tory MPs, to get onto the vote by members.
    The members will then pick the one on the right.
    So it looks like a safe bet that Tom Tugendhat will lose to some right-wing lunatic.

  • @kevinmcinerney1959
    @kevinmcinerney1959 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The thumbnail shows an image "Tories Closing Ranks". The caption for the discussion is "Tory Party tearing itself apart".
    Nice work.

  • @JelMain
    @JelMain หลายเดือนก่อน

    A quarter of one percent of the electorate picking a Party Leader...if you want to be serious for a moment...Nah. Statistically insignificant.

  • @BurningTNT
    @BurningTNT หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why not join the tory party to get a say in their leader? Maybe because I don’t want to give them money to campaign with, and would rather they continue to struggle with funding
    Also madness to suggest EU countries will adopt Rwanda schemes, being in the EU gives them tools to deal with the migrant crisis collectively and we lost it when we left, that’s why the number of refugees keeps going up

    • @maewest68
      @maewest68 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, the EU member states are dealing wonderfully with the situation.

  • @paulnewman2000
    @paulnewman2000 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You don't need to go to journalism school to work for the Times. You just need to be a tory.

  • @Matthew-bu7fg
    @Matthew-bu7fg หลายเดือนก่อน

    please be braverman
    please be braverman
    please be braverman
    let's read the last rites

  • @angied8919
    @angied8919 หลายเดือนก่อน

    David Cameron would get my vote again and again, I wish he could lead the Tory party from the House of Lords

    • @andrewgreen5892
      @andrewgreen5892 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Oh brilliant, endless austerity

    • @harveybrown37
      @harveybrown37 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You work for Lex Greensill and I claim my £5 prize!

  • @MartinPackwood
    @MartinPackwood หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The old labour/tory division doesn;t exist any more. The only party representing anything right of centre is Reform. If the Tories are intent on fighting it out for slightly left of centre, and I believe they are, it is already very crowded. It doesn't seem a good strategy to me.

    • @maccagrabme
      @maccagrabme หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Who wants to sign up for Tory membership to choose a leader? We couldn't care less.

    • @JelMain
      @JelMain หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@maccagrabme None of the Above won the last election by a landslide - 48% of the electorate.

    • @neodym5809
      @neodym5809 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What about the Tories is left of centre?

    • @MartinPackwood
      @MartinPackwood หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@neodym5809 The 'One Nation' lot.

    • @neodym5809
      @neodym5809 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MartinPackwood what about the one nation Tories is left of centre? They are pretty centre right.

  • @hailstone2554
    @hailstone2554 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The next PM ,🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣