Jason has experienced 'mobbing' in the workplace, when all his colleagues ganged up on him and told him to stop sexually harassing the female employees.
What a strange man. Talks over Shelagh, gets louder whenever she says anything. His anger bristles over the microphone. You can feel it! Could you imagine what it would be like to work with this man. I think that if hwe was 20 years younger and he would have been out on the streets with the rest of his ilk
@@syttt7925 At about 9:40 you can see him getting fed up having to explain things to a woman cos a woman doesn't get it. His colours are well up the mast about his views!
Jason has told us wayyyyy more about himself than he realises. Going to take a stab in the dark and he's behaved poorly and everyone treated him appropriately and now he feels like a victim rather than actually sorting his behavior out.
Exactly what I was thinking - Freud would have a field day with this guy. Sadly you just know he'd be in complete denial following any kind of analysis.
It could also be that he was badly treated, singled out by work colleagues and he didn't want to take it further or was dismissed by management. I think his anger prevented him from making his point in a sympathetic way
@@mickboon9831 he said the things that women and “feminised men” do are not things that someone in their right mind would do. IMO if there was a group of people against him he probably instigated it
@@gRapa9900 He probably expressed his opinion, got negative response from them, whined to management, appeal was disregarded, so might have made the situation worse for himself.
He’s contempt for women shines through in this call as clear as day. Everytime Shelagh speaks he raises his voice and you can hear the anger boiling up in him. I used to strongly dislike these type of people but now I pity them. What a miserable outlook!
@@JayBond-s5j How am I projecting? The guy clearly was not calling in to discuss. He constantly talked over and had a closed minded malevolent attitude. That was self-evident. I cannot imagine even he would deny that. - If you disagree with my summation, then persuade me otherwise. I would be genuinely interested to read your alternative take on the nature of that call.
I can just hear the likes of Elon Musk and Andrew Tate channeling through this pillock. His use of the petty nickname “two tier Kier” just solidified that.
Look at how Huw Edwards was treated. Kept on full pay until he went to court. Jermaine Jenas hasn't even been spoken to by the police. Yet is sacked. This is ignored by this clown.
He was listening, he was constantly rudely interrupted, by a person who does that for a job and who was obviously trying to rile him. You are a poor judge.
Is that what you heard? He's not great at speaking publicly but all the scientific literature on psychology is in on this. Women are most likely to start rumors and lies and ruin people's reputations when they have disagreements. Women are not covered under the law for this in any way shape or form. The host is lying.
sounds more like hes maybe had a relationship with someone at his work which didn't end well and the other person maybe gossiped about him and now he's upset about it
I think he just read about "moving", and didn't retain the different term in his head. I have heard "moving" being used in scenarios where people is assigned dead-end tasks, or no tasks at. They are "moved" out of the way, just to wait until they give up and resign. No idea whether that counts as harrasment.
This is what’s happening to my dad which is sad. Unable to have a conversation, thinks he’s the victim and that anything that doesn’t benefit him is an issue.
Mine too. Men of a certain age unfortunately - raised in one set of gender dynamics and then totally caught out / unable to change in middle age when the landscape has shifted. Too used to having all the power and privilege and unable to socially function when that power has been reduced
@enquirer2.0: What a brilliant description. This strange guy fits that profile brilliantly: a bully who runs away when his behaviour is challenged, then plays the victim.
Because he’s white & British & male? Why is it when a man who’s white & British opinions there called racism misogynistic it’s getting boring . A black man can come out & talk about he’s hard life racism against him etc & a woman can come out & say stuff about men but they’ll never get called sexist or misogynistic.
'Feminised' bullying = without violence? 'Most right-thinking people'.. always a get out clause. Jason obviously has issues with women (or 'feminists' as he sees them) and maybe needs to look up constructive dismissal too. "I've been criticised for a whole range of reasons...by women!" No! Really, Jason?!!!!!!
@@fredsmith1970 Maybe u fellas are just to sharp for me,but I assumed he was referring to Labour Laws Code or employment Laws? .Usually ( or it once meant) Laws pertaining bet the Employer,Employee & a Union.
@@jerryoshea3116 in the UK one of the main political parties, and the current ruling party in government, is Labour. So, whilst labour is a synonym for "work" here in the UK and in the US, Labour (capital L) is a political party. The caller was referring to laws passed by the Labour Party, since they return to government, of which they haven't passed any (as yet). So any law he's really referencing was already in place.
@@fredsmith1970 I think they only just got elected in Juky did they not? So as much as the Woke,PC,former Human Rights Activist PM has been woking O/T ,they weren't really responsible for Labour/ Labor Laws in the UK for last 14 yrs...were they!
I was SA'd at work, stalked, and received almost daily inappropriate comments. These incidents were carried out by different men with no affiliation to each other. It started in 2008 when I was 19 and working on a university campus. I went to the Police for the stalking and SA (different men) they sent the on campus PCSO to "have a chat with them." Fortunately, my Dad also worked there and put the worst offender in a wheelie bin, I was left alone after that.
Poor Jason believes he's allowed to do what he wants at work without repercussion. When he gets called out for it, and the workplace turn their backs on him, he's suddenly the victim and wants a law to protect him.
He probably had a wife who every time she tried to say something to him or answer a question, would have him shouting at her, even yelling... She left him. ( this being the optimistic scenario..!!) With a guy like him, it could never work with any woman..!!!
The caller has issues with females in the workplace, and he didn't like a complaint made against him and hated the rules. And now all women are paying such Shelagh here.😂😂 ( if between the lines is a monologue)
As a man who has been sexually harassed and assaulted in the workplace (7 times in the last 3 years)...it is neither rare nor unlikely. It's far worse for younger women. It is mentally and emotionally devastating. It's literally ruined my life
@@susanbishop5228 3 were while working in pubs, 4 while performing as a musician. Several of them had witnesses and have been reported to the police. You can believe whatever you wish to believe, but I know my life. I know the effect it's had on me and my psyche
@@edb2863 It sounds terrible, I hope things get better with time, I had nothing like this, my wife has and so I understand somewhat, it can be devastating.
This caller is obliquely attempting to make the latest BBC sacking seem like a 'feminist' issue as though the accusations made (whatever they are) are trivial and should be ignored. However, the caller has no clue as to what the alleged offence is and nor does anyone.
If you are able to say, out loud, that "youve been criticised for a whole bunch of reasons, by women, and also not only by women" and im assuming you mean in the workplace, im afraid you do need to take a look in the mirror. Ive worked for 35 years. And to my knowledge never been criticised by a woman on even one reason.?
He's definitely the office pervert. Why should anyone be penalised because women are more likely to be sexually harassed?! The law is for everyone, it just happens to women more, I'd love for that not to be the case!
This is the sort of guy you never want to be alone with at a party or out for a drink. He’d bore the pants off you & you wouldn’t get a word in edgeways.
Have you ever walked into an office and found someone so grumpy, sullen, and moody that you were scared to approach them? When you make an inquiry, their answers don't get any better, and they are laced with soft insults and ridicule. It's passive aggressive workplace bullying.
I think Jason could do with some guided counselling to help him understand where his views don't appear to match up with reality. He appears to be unable to view his behaviour as a possible part of a problem and shows that he struggles to express himself properly in conversation - which may be the thing that has led to what has clearly been an unpleasant experience for him
Wow! Jason has revealed to the nation that he is, at the very least, a bully in the arena of conversation, someone who feels that only his own opinion is valid and deserving of being heard. Why do I get the feeling that that particularly applies when a woman is trying to get a word in edgewise?
I hear his frustration And i get his point The reality is No one cares especially at work Just let it consume you And be like everyone else Then there be no issue 😁
Other topics mentioned are for the police - see Offences against the Person Act 1861, the Criminal Justice Act 1988, Crime and Disorder Act 1998, Sexua* Offences Act 2003, and Protection from Harassment Act 1997. On harassment the UK has strict criminal harassment laws, for example 2 unwanted text messages even non-threatening. Consent cant be withdrawn retrospectively.
If the caller had been female, would they be asked have you tried using the existing laws? Isn't that victim blaming? The guy's language is clumsy and old fashioned but Shelagh patronising and dismissive responses are out of line too. End of the day, the story that started this debate is a guy who has not been found guilty (yet) in a court of law but has lost his job as he's already guilty in the court of public opinion. Same thing does happen in the workplace, example Chris Avalon of Interplay/Obsidian who faced false allegations, found totally innocent but by then his career is destroyed. Look through to comments on this video to see how many empty headed sheep are willing to just nod along and believe allegations without seeing any evidence.
He didn’t come across well and didn’t make his point well but he is right that in the U.K. there is no legal definition of bullying. It may fall under the definition of harassment within the Equality Act BUT ONLY IF it pertains to a protected characteristic.
Has this man seen ALL of the texts that Jenas sent because if he hasn't then why is he making a judgement call?. To be honest he seems that he knows a little too much about this type of action. Is it me or does he seem to have an axe to grind? Here is my question -"Jason what thing or things have you done at work that you're now alluding to in a VERY roundabout fashion with a feeling of both confused guilt and self righteousness"?.
"If I have a problem at work, I go to HR." "There should be a law." HR policies and laws *are different things.* If you have a problem with someone's behaviour and that behaviour is against a law (or even *might be* against a law, even if you don't know which one specifically), you don't go to HR, you go to the *police.* If you have an issue that you take to HR, you have to be satisfied with an HR resolution to your issue - mediation or financial penalty or demotion or suspension or dismissal. You can't expect jail time or community service to be handed out by the HR department. If you believe you have been unfairly targeted by your colleagues or your HR department, you can either change your job or ask the legal system to intervene. Plenty of women have taken their employers to court over unfair suspension or dismissal which they experienced after reporting bad behaviour to HR. Men can do that too. If you really believe that your colleagues are a 'mob' who are picking on you unfairly, then you can use the legal system too. It's available to everyone. If you don't use the system, that's your choice. But it doesn't mean that the system doesn't exist. If you attempt to use the system to complain about the treatment you have received from your colleagues and it turns out that there are reasons for it - such as *your* behaviour - then it may not go well for you. You don't see many men suing their former employer for unfair dismissal when the dismissal was for cause on the grounds of harassment of staff.
BTW: employment law catches bullying under discrimination laws (i.e. on grounds of protected characteristics, the "offended" law - and they have a hierachy which is why age and disability hate crime is often overlooked). Here damages can be uncapped which is why they are taken seriously. Someone who is a target on other grounds or who cant prove say discrimination might get unfair dismissal but compensation maximum is £21K so not worth it. As the caller says there are no specific generic bullying/mobbing laws within employment law which apply to everyone and it might be tricky for a mobbing target to use criminal fraud law because mobbing often involves collusion and obtaining evidence isn't easy.
The point he was making is that women are most likely to make a complaint against a man whereas men tend not to complain as it comes across as weak.....and employers have a tenancy to laugh it off.
Women or more likely to go to HR if some guy merely tries to chat them up whilst a man will let that go aa part of life. What women now deem harassment doesn't have to be persistent unwanted troubling behaviour.. I could just one text saying you're hot I fancy you
@@daenbrown830rme. That would be a block. It would be HR if you did something else. But you, unlike a lot of/most men in this thread, just don't recognise those actions.
That was not a conversation, and not intended to be. calls into these radio stations seldom are. During a normal conversation you are not walking on eggshells and whether you might get muted, be insulted, talking with someone who doesnt get the topic but insults you as if you dont etc...
There are other crimes that might be relevant in such scenarios: for example fraud, blackmail, extortion, cyber-stalking and money muling. Slander/defamation is civil law and for someone of low income background not usually a feasible option, and in any event requires evidence and hence mobbers typically thrive on secrecy.
Some better background check questions on an application form might include the following to check out real attributes. Answer YES or NO to the following questions. Whether found out or not, are you or have you ever been at work? * a scheming fraudster (look up definitions of fraud yourself) * a thief at work, say by indirectly stealing an elder persons life savings (look up definitions of thief yourself) * a mobber, for example sabotaging a high-performer from the workplace because you are entitled and jealous (look up definitions of mobbing in the workplace yourself) * used delegated power or se***lity to to take advantage at work or to obtain favours at work * committed slander/defamation on the internet about work colleagues (look up definitions of defamation/slander yourself) * cheated on any exam or job application test by eliciting help of others or otherwise *misused performance appraisals systems giving high praise to undeserving/incompetent corrupt cronies and poor feedback to to high performers because you were jealous and didnt like their accent * misused power in the workplace to benefit yourself * made false expense claims * a nasty bit of work with a fake persona
How she reacted right at the end about platting his hair proves his point, if that was a male host and said a snarky dig at the end like that to a women therr would be uproar
He sounds like what he thinks he is saying is right! He cannot stand anyone having an opinion different to him especially a woman. First time caller who can’t draw breath.
These days, young women just do not put up with men's inappropriate behaviour, they call them out. I am in my 50s & was discussing with a friend our lives as young women & it was horrifying what we were expected to put up with. Thank goodness, the world has moved on. Unfortunately, men like Jenas continue with this behaviour, it is his own fault. He chooses the behaviour, he experiences the consequence. There is a serious issue with misogynist attitudes in young men encouraged by Andrew Tate & his ilk. Recently as a teacher, I have experienced this after being harassed on social media by a 10 yr boy. He picked exclusively on older, female teachers. It was extremely distressing & there is minimum we can do, we have to put up with it as part of the job. Needless to say, I am now looking at early retirement.
Jason has experienced 'mobbing' in the workplace, when all his colleagues ganged up on him and told him to stop sexually harassing the female employees.
Yeah, and he claimed he was being discriminated against, Those crazy feminists getting laws passed which spoil his fun.
What a strange man. Talks over Shelagh, gets louder whenever she says anything. His anger bristles over the microphone. You can feel it! Could you imagine what it would be like to work with this man. I think that if hwe was 20 years younger and he would have been out on the streets with the rest of his ilk
@@syttt7925 At about 9:40 you can see him getting fed up having to explain things to a woman cos a woman doesn't get it. His colours are well up the mast about his views!
He sounds like an Andrew Tate fanboy!!
Poor Jason is a victim, aw 😞
Jason has told us wayyyyy more about himself than he realises. Going to take a stab in the dark and he's behaved poorly and everyone treated him appropriately and now he feels like a victim rather than actually sorting his behavior out.
Dr are we lol w anchor ⚓️
Exactly what I was thinking - Freud would have a field day with this guy. Sadly you just know he'd be in complete denial following any kind of analysis.
It could also be that he was badly treated, singled out by work colleagues and he didn't want to take it further or was dismissed by management. I think his anger prevented him from making his point in a sympathetic way
@@mickboon9831 he said the things that women and “feminised men” do are not things that someone in their right mind would do. IMO if there was a group of people against him he probably instigated it
@@gRapa9900 He probably expressed his opinion, got negative response from them, whined to management, appeal was disregarded, so might have made the situation worse for himself.
He’s contempt for women shines through in this call as clear as day. Everytime Shelagh speaks he raises his voice and you can hear the anger boiling up in him. I used to strongly dislike these type of people but now I pity them. What a miserable outlook!
Contemptuous miserable people projecting. Common traits among entitled fraudsters.
@@JayBond-s5j pompous, non-answers that try to sound intelligent. Typical response from a defensive right winger.
Your contempt and your projection you mean.
@@JayBond-s5jis that you Jason 😂 🤡
You can tell jason has been in front of hr several times
Very strange call.
😂😂😂😂😂
Not as strange as your comment. have you been taken to court yet?
@@JayBond-s5jWhat's strange about his comment
@@88conway88 jaybond 006!🤣
@@88conway88do you think jays been to court 🤔
"Feminized Men"😂😮 Your patience and calmness should be applauded dealing with this individual.
"Feminized Men" Is that incel vocabulary ?
@@tudormiller887yes it is
@@tudormiller887 Possibly & I had to look that up acronym,i forgot what it meant.(we live in the times of abbreviations and acronyms)
@@tudormiller887no it's you
@@ImUpYourArsefound the incel
I feel like I've just watched someone being harrassed at work.
hahahaaaa
@@theotheothradio, with paid callers, paid presenters, working for elites, no real reporters in reallife, a scam lbc
"First time caller, and first time speaking to a Woman I don't have to call Mother"
I bet he pays some women he calls Mother
@red..eh?....what a weird comment....
Your commenst just proved him right guy speaks up and your first reaction is to take the mobs side 🤔
Who else really wants to know what Jason did at work??? Clearly been a naughty boy and didn’t like the consequences 😂
I think he's bored his colleagues to death.
Oh yes.
What have you been doing at work? Or you on benefits or in jail?
@@JayBond-s5j *Hi Jason*
Yes indeed .
He knows for a fact he is right. Not tried to use the law, he just knows. Because he's special.
😂😂😂😂😂
What is it about the lowest common denominator on the global internet, must be tough for disabled people in their own countries.
@@JayBond-s5jis that you Jason 😂
First time caller. Long time bigot. He's getting very easily offended. What a complete MELT.😂😂😂
Only melt is you
Why is he a bigot?
People who go round throwing words like bigot about are usually wet wipes
He's a wally
@@stewbie5086because he used nonsense that he’s used to convince himself he’s not a bigot, at least misogynistic.
Something tells me he has acted inappropriately in the workplace before...
I wish Shelagh had asked him about it - he may have found it cathartic.
Where did you get that crazy Idea from😂
Exactly.They need to check his track records.
Exactly what I was thinking.
@Miguel....your ESP or mindreading skills perhaps.?😊😂😂
Jason cannot handle Shelagh having her say.
This is the motivation for his call. The irony is that he wants to bullly the presenter.
💯
You are projecting. The irony.
@@JayBond-s5j How am I projecting? The guy clearly was not calling in to discuss. He constantly talked over and had a closed minded malevolent attitude. That was self-evident. I cannot imagine even he would deny that. - If you disagree with my summation, then persuade me otherwise. I would be genuinely interested to read your alternative take on the nature of that call.
@@JayBond-s5j👈🏻👈🏻 13 hour old account. So likely a troll. Ignore.
@@alipanroosendaal9503you know that’s him you’re replying to don’t you ? Jay short for Jason ..
I can just hear the likes of Elon Musk and Andrew Tate channeling through this pillock. His use of the petty nickname “two tier Kier” just solidified that.
That is what I thought of immediately
Look at how Huw Edwards was treated. Kept on full pay until he went to court. Jermaine Jenas hasn't even been spoken to by the police. Yet is sacked. This is ignored by this clown.
You missed out "Donald Trump" !
two tier Keir and when will he arrest the officers who defended themselves against a murderous assualt by 2 pyscopaths back from Pakistan
Pillock ! 😂 spot on .
The way he didn't want to listen to Shelagh, speaks volumes about his attitude.
He was listening, he was constantly rudely interrupted, by a person who does that for a job and who was obviously trying to rile him. You are a poor judge.
@@JayBond-s5j a Jay defending a Jason? 🤔
@Human It would if that's what happened. Unfortunately you can't see beyond your tedious agenda which accomplishes absolutely nothing.
He talked over her when she was trying to clarify what he was saying and he never shut up.
@@jan1babs distinct air of misogyny.
How dare they take away his right to harassing female colleagues in the work place 😂
Is that what you heard? He's not great at speaking publicly but all the scientific literature on psychology is in on this. Women are most likely to start rumors and lies and ruin people's reputations when they have disagreements. Women are not covered under the law for this in any way shape or form. The host is lying.
@@AaronSmith-x6o hes a massive odd ball ffs.
@yetidodger6650 I agree but that has nothing to do with what I said. It's weird how liberals are all about "science" until it comes to psychology. Lol
@paul You seem upset too.😊
@chatham43 you're projecting and I know you are because I'm reading my previous comments and I'm definitely not upset.
Jason is always right.
Even when he doesn't understand what harassment at the work place means.
@Giovanni. Well can you? Strongly doubt it.
What is he talking about? This is already covered be employment law. Just because he doesn't use it doesn't mean it does not exist.
Sounds like jason is anmoyed he cant be allowed to go around and harass women in peace in his workplace
Really?
@@call_in_sicki got the same impression, so, yes. Absolutely.
sounds more like hes maybe had a relationship with someone at his work which didn't end well and the other person maybe gossiped about him and now he's upset about it
@@hotmortyyy254 either way, it’s pathetic
@@hotmortyyy254 that's an extremely lenient perspective. he sounds angry about a lot more than that!
Mobbing is workplace bullying and it's covered in employment law.
I think he just read about "moving", and didn't retain the different term in his head.
I have heard "moving" being used in scenarios where people is assigned dead-end tasks, or no tasks at. They are "moved" out of the way, just to wait until they give up and resign.
No idea whether that counts as harrasment.
@@parametrthat sounds like constructive dismissal.
Dear me, I think he's divorced. It's giving 'let us get on with harassing these women like we did in the 70s'
Say you have been homophobic without saying you have been homophobic - what a clown
😂😂😂😂 haram
Everyone disagrees with homosexuality. You've been listening to the far left to much.
This is what’s happening to my dad which is sad. Unable to have a conversation, thinks he’s the victim and that anything that doesn’t benefit him is an issue.
Mine too. Men of a certain age unfortunately - raised in one set of gender dynamics and then totally caught out / unable to change in middle age when the landscape has shifted. Too used to having all the power and privilege and unable to socially function when that power has been reduced
@@eveapple4928like you will be one day.
@@GWJUK you wish!!!
@@eveapple4928 it’s happened to every generation, what makes you special?
@@GWJUKLike you are now
Jason sounds like the Tonmy Robinson of Incels 🤪
@enquirer2.0: What a brilliant description. This strange guy fits that profile brilliantly: a bully who runs away when his behaviour is challenged, then plays the victim.
👍👍👍🤣🤣🤣
Baaaaaahahahaha 🤣🤣
You Win. “Feminised Men” got me😂😂😂😂😂 tell me he follows Andrew Tate without telling me. Poor little scared man is Jason
Because he’s white & British & male? Why is it when a man who’s white & British opinions there called racism misogynistic it’s getting boring . A black man can come out & talk about he’s hard life racism against him etc & a woman can come out & say stuff about men but they’ll never get called sexist or misogynistic.
As a man, I am so embarrassed by this person (who I suspect is an incel).
Meanwhile you're hugh hefner
@@helicoptergunship Compared to the caller, we all are.
@@helicoptergunship Hugh Hefner is your role model? Dude.
@@kevinsmarts9953😂
@@helicoptergunshipthat’s not the opposite of incel. It’s funny the different way people inadvertently reveal their incelness.
'Feminised' bullying = without violence? 'Most right-thinking people'.. always a get out clause. Jason obviously has issues with women (or 'feminists' as he sees them) and maybe needs to look up constructive dismissal too.
"I've been criticised for a whole range of reasons...by women!"
No! Really, Jason?!!!!!!
Jason has issues with mobbers and fraudsers, whether or not mean girl activities are part of their tactics.
Tell us you’re petrified of being investigated for workplace behaviour, without telling us
"Labour inspired laws" - when labour have yet to pass a law since they got into government? - says it all really.
Last law Labour passed was almost 15 years ago
@@fredsmith1970 Maybe u fellas are just to sharp for me,but I assumed he was referring to Labour Laws Code or employment Laws? .Usually ( or it once meant) Laws pertaining bet the Employer,Employee & a Union.
@@jerryoshea3116 in the UK one of the main political parties, and the current ruling party in government, is Labour.
So, whilst labour is a synonym for "work" here in the UK and in the US, Labour (capital L) is a political party.
The caller was referring to laws passed by the Labour Party, since they return to government, of which they haven't passed any (as yet). So any law he's really referencing was already in place.
@@fredsmith1970 I think they only just got elected in Juky did they not?
So as much as the Woke,PC,former Human Rights Activist PM has been woking O/T ,they weren't really responsible for Labour/ Labor Laws in the UK for last 14 yrs...were they!
Men don't play mind games? Who is this guy and what planet does he live on?!
What a strange man
Very creepy
The more he talks, the more he shows he is an insecure nonsensical misogynist.
And a homophobe too “feminised men”
You took the words right out of my mouth.
And you just provided a working example of his point.
Surely he should be in prison? Not on a radio phone in. Right?
The terrorist.....
@@stuc3195 He should be in prison? Hahaha. No. He is just insecure. That is not a crime outside of Russia.
I was SA'd at work, stalked, and received almost daily inappropriate comments. These incidents were carried out by different men with no affiliation to each other. It started in 2008 when I was 19 and working on a university campus. I went to the Police for the stalking and SA (different men) they sent the on campus PCSO to "have a chat with them." Fortunately, my Dad also worked there and put the worst offender in a wheelie bin, I was left alone after that.
Don't be like Jason.
Be like Jason, he is a role model.
Likes the sound of his own voice doesn’t he? But he does not seem to hear what he is being told.
@The That's a Shelagh trait which she obviously resents in a man.😊
Who heard him smash his fist each time Shelagh spoke.
Poor Jason believes he's allowed to do what he wants at work without repercussion. When he gets called out for it, and the workplace turn their backs on him, he's suddenly the victim and wants a law to protect him.
Projecting much?
All i heard was 11 minutes of "hang on" , "mobbing" and "bullying"
This dude probably had a valid point somewhere but his patronising tone and condescending attitude completely discredits his viewpoint, in my opinion.
Spot on, ultimately he wanted a conversation with himself
@@SharonTateFan67 He's probably still talking into the phone as we speak.
100%. Judged on that conversation he's absolutely the type of person everyone gets warned about at work as someone to steer clear of.
I bet any money Jason is well known by his company's HR department. I do hope he doesn't have a wife or a daughter.
He probably had a wife who every time she tried to say something to him or answer a question, would have him shouting at her, even yelling... She left him. ( this being the optimistic scenario..!!)
With a guy like him, it could never work with any woman..!!!
Quiet Sheila! There's a man talking !
(over you)😂😂😂 or trying to.
@brian Makes a change sure you would agree!😊
There’s no common factor to all of Jason’s dysfunctional relationships…and it’s Jason.
sounds a bit like someone who's had to attend more than one "workplace course"
The caller has issues with females in the workplace, and he didn't like a complaint made against him and hated the rules. And now all women are paying such Shelagh here.😂😂
( if between the lines is a monologue)
As a man who has been sexually harassed and assaulted in the workplace (7 times in the last 3 years)...it is neither rare nor unlikely. It's far worse for younger women.
It is mentally and emotionally devastating. It's literally ruined my life
Ok that didn't happen
@@susanbishop5228how would you know, why are you judging?
@@JamesKerr-z4o educated guess
Remarkably unlucky.
@@susanbishop5228 3 were while working in pubs, 4 while performing as a musician. Several of them had witnesses and have been reported to the police. You can believe whatever you wish to believe, but I know my life. I know the effect it's had on me and my psyche
@@edb2863 It sounds terrible, I hope things get better with time, I had nothing like this, my wife has and so I understand somewhat, it can be devastating.
Most passive aggressive caller I've ever heard...
But men don't play those games. He told you that. Dude is a red flag the size of Brazil.
awful - its the other way around
@@azharkelly3497
He wasn't able to articulate he's view very well..
@@azharkelly3497 say what now?
£20 says he got caught out for being a creep.
This caller is obliquely attempting to make the latest BBC sacking seem like a 'feminist' issue as though the accusations made (whatever they are) are trivial and should be ignored. However, the caller has no clue as to what the alleged offence is and nor does anyone.
If it turns out he was flashing Lineker its going to ruin this callers whole week.
🤣 Indeed. We are assuming the complainant(s) is a woman.
I must admit I listened to this and couldn’t figure out what point he was actually making.
I'm so glad I'm not his wife 😂.
Bold to think he has a wife!
Sounds like he's upset that he can't get away with harassing women anymore.
I work as a carer , most of my colleagues are female and yes they will gang up( even the ones who hate each other) on the bloke.
Women can be lethal.
And should be held accountable.
If you are able to say, out loud, that "youve been criticised for a whole bunch of reasons, by women, and also not only by women" and im assuming you mean in the workplace, im afraid you do need to take a look in the mirror.
Ive worked for 35 years. And to my knowledge never been criticised by a woman on even one reason.?
Unfortunately i have met so many men who have this attitude, many not that old!
He's definitely the office pervert. Why should anyone be penalised because women are more likely to be sexually harassed?! The law is for everyone, it just happens to women more, I'd love for that not to be the case!
The office pervert, lol. Every work place has one unfortunately
This is the sort of guy you never want to be alone with at a party or out for a drink. He’d bore the pants off you & you wouldn’t get a word in edgeways.
I promise you nobody at all will sexually harrass this interviewer
Imagine working with this ridiculous man?
The caller is right on this one.
“Left us to plait his hair” is up there with “love to the family” 😂😂
Have you ever walked into an office and found someone so grumpy, sullen, and moody that you were scared to approach them? When you make an inquiry, their answers don't get any better, and they are laced with soft insults and ridicule. It's passive aggressive workplace bullying.
I think Jason could do with some guided counselling to help him understand where his views don't appear to match up with reality. He appears to be unable to view his behaviour as a possible part of a problem and shows that he struggles to express himself properly in conversation - which may be the thing that has led to what has clearly been an unpleasant experience for him
Can you publish your psychiatric/psychological history before you judge who needs counselling. Thanks
Also he was shouting over you and at the same time saying you wouldn't answer his questions, honestly what a numpty
Shelagh, got's the patience of a Nun!
and a chuff like one too
“You’re just shouting when I speak… which is strange.” I love Shelagh.
Wow! Jason has revealed to the nation that he is, at the very least, a bully in the arena of conversation, someone who feels that only his own opinion is valid and deserving of being heard. Why do I get the feeling that that particularly applies when a woman is trying to get a word in edgewise?
Here's a whacky idea. How about we wait for the full facts to come out before becoming judge, jury and executioner on Jermaine!
Jason needs love in his life, lots of it.
from men
@@forestsunset9617in the workplace
Safe to say, Shelagh has never been subject to unwanted male attention.
I hear his frustration
And i get his point
The reality is
No one cares
especially at work
Just let it consume you
And be like everyone else
Then there be no issue 😁
Andrew Tate will *LOVE* this guy. What a moob.
Other topics mentioned are for the police - see Offences against the Person Act 1861, the Criminal Justice Act 1988, Crime and Disorder Act 1998, Sexua* Offences Act 2003, and Protection from Harassment Act 1997. On harassment the UK has strict criminal harassment laws, for example 2 unwanted text messages even non-threatening. Consent cant be withdrawn retrospectively.
I'd like to have an argument, please. Certainly sir. Have you been here before?
If the caller had been female, would they be asked have you tried using the existing laws? Isn't that victim blaming? The guy's language is clumsy and old fashioned but Shelagh patronising and dismissive responses are out of line too. End of the day, the story that started this debate is a guy who has not been found guilty (yet) in a court of law but has lost his job as he's already guilty in the court of public opinion. Same thing does happen in the workplace, example Chris Avalon of Interplay/Obsidian who faced false allegations, found totally innocent but by then his career is destroyed.
Look through to comments on this video to see how many empty headed sheep are willing to just nod along and believe allegations without seeing any evidence.
He didn’t come across well and didn’t make his point well but he is right that in the U.K. there is no legal definition of bullying. It may fall under the definition of harassment within the Equality Act BUT ONLY IF it pertains to a protected characteristic.
Has this man seen ALL of the texts that Jenas sent because if he hasn't then why is he making a judgement call?.
To be honest he seems that he knows a little too much about this type of action.
Is it me or does he seem to have an axe to grind?
Here is my question -"Jason what thing or things have you done at work that you're now alluding to in a VERY roundabout fashion with a feeling of both confused guilt and self righteousness"?.
How you can be so certain about something while also being so wrong about something is incredible.
"If I have a problem at work, I go to HR."
"There should be a law."
HR policies and laws *are different things.*
If you have a problem with someone's behaviour and that behaviour is against a law (or even *might be* against a law, even if you don't know which one specifically), you don't go to HR, you go to the *police.*
If you have an issue that you take to HR, you have to be satisfied with an HR resolution to your issue - mediation or financial penalty or demotion or suspension or dismissal. You can't expect jail time or community service to be handed out by the HR department.
If you believe you have been unfairly targeted by your colleagues or your HR department, you can either change your job or ask the legal system to intervene. Plenty of women have taken their employers to court over unfair suspension or dismissal which they experienced after reporting bad behaviour to HR. Men can do that too. If you really believe that your colleagues are a 'mob' who are picking on you unfairly, then you can use the legal system too. It's available to everyone.
If you don't use the system, that's your choice. But it doesn't mean that the system doesn't exist.
If you attempt to use the system to complain about the treatment you have received from your colleagues and it turns out that there are reasons for it - such as *your* behaviour - then it may not go well for you. You don't see many men suing their former employer for unfair dismissal when the dismissal was for cause on the grounds of harassment of staff.
BTW: employment law catches bullying under discrimination laws (i.e. on grounds of protected characteristics, the "offended" law - and they have a hierachy which is why age and disability hate crime is often overlooked). Here damages can be uncapped which is why they are taken seriously. Someone who is a target on other grounds or who cant prove say discrimination might get unfair dismissal but compensation maximum is £21K so not worth it. As the caller says there are no specific generic bullying/mobbing laws within employment law which apply to everyone and it might be tricky for a mobbing target to use criminal fraud law because mobbing often involves collusion and obtaining evidence isn't easy.
Jermaine Jenas Mom once called into Sky sports because they where saying Jenas wrong. Always found that hilarious. When he played for newcastle
I've always called him Hugh Jenas 😂
@@franklingoodwin i laughed :)
Probably where a lot of his issues stem from! He’s probably crying into his mum’s sofa cushions as we speak
@@eveapple4928 Should be crying that he wasted his career at tottenham
What exactly did he do??? texting??? What is it???
This man does not know that males and females are protected under the law seemingly
They sacked him quickly compared to other BBC presenters like Huw Edwards
Didn't seem like he was shouting to me, maybe her headphones are turned up too high.
No one knows anything about what he did ir did not do.
But we know his reaction to it is completely unhinged.
A lot of women in the comments section.
How dare they (?)
The point he was making is that women are most likely to make a complaint against a man whereas men tend not to complain as it comes across as weak.....and employers have a tenancy to laugh it off.
Which may be true but women are far more likely to be harassed.
Women or more likely to go to HR if some guy merely tries to chat them up whilst a man will let that go aa part of life. What women now deem harassment doesn't have to be persistent unwanted troubling behaviour.. I could just one text saying you're hot I fancy you
@@daenbrown830rme. That would be a block. It would be HR if you did something else. But you, unlike a lot of/most men in this thread, just don't recognise those actions.
The caller is 100% ✅ spot on!!!!!
He is right it’s a tool for money and attention
That was not a conversation, and not intended to be. calls into these radio stations seldom are. During a normal conversation you are not walking on eggshells and whether you might get muted, be insulted, talking with someone who doesnt get the topic but insults you as if you dont etc...
I AGREE WITH THIS MAN.....
There are other crimes that might be relevant in such scenarios: for example fraud, blackmail, extortion, cyber-stalking and money muling. Slander/defamation is civil law and for someone of low income background not usually a feasible option, and in any event requires evidence and hence mobbers typically thrive on secrecy.
Is this guy just lonely and sad?
Some better background check questions on an application form might include the following to check out real attributes. Answer YES or NO to the following questions. Whether found out or not, are you or have you ever been at work?
* a scheming fraudster (look up definitions of fraud yourself)
* a thief at work, say by indirectly stealing an elder persons life savings (look up definitions of thief yourself)
* a mobber, for example sabotaging a high-performer from the workplace because you are entitled and jealous (look up definitions of mobbing in the workplace yourself)
* used delegated power or se***lity to to take advantage at work or to obtain favours at work
* committed slander/defamation on the internet about work colleagues (look up definitions of defamation/slander yourself)
* cheated on any exam or job application test by eliciting help of others or otherwise
*misused performance appraisals systems giving high praise to undeserving/incompetent corrupt cronies and poor feedback to to high performers because you were jealous and didnt like their accent
* misused power in the workplace to benefit yourself
* made false expense claims
* a nasty bit of work with a fake persona
How she reacted right at the end about platting his hair proves his point, if that was a male host and said a snarky dig at the end like that to a women therr would be uproar
Has he gone yet.
He sounds like what he thinks he is saying is right! He cannot stand anyone having an opinion different to him especially a woman. First time caller who can’t draw breath.
He’s very sus
Think before you speak, think even more before you call in and speak.
These days, young women just do not put up with men's inappropriate behaviour, they call them out. I am in my 50s & was discussing with a friend our lives as young women & it was horrifying what we were expected to put up with. Thank goodness, the world has moved on. Unfortunately, men like Jenas continue with this behaviour, it is his own fault. He chooses the behaviour, he experiences the consequence. There is a serious issue with misogynist attitudes in young men encouraged by Andrew Tate & his ilk. Recently as a teacher, I have experienced this after being harassed on social media by a 10 yr boy. He picked exclusively on older, female teachers. It was extremely distressing & there is minimum we can do, we have to put up with it as part of the job. Needless to say, I am now looking at early retirement.
He only got sacked from the BBC because they weren't minors...
This guy makes me so tired.
Yes, he’s the sort of person that would empty a room very quickly, soo obnoxious.