KIA EV6 GT-Line S First Drive: Better than a Mustang Mach-E!

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  • @sparky4878
    @sparky4878 2 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    Some proper physical buttons? Thank you Kia for not going down the route of everything being touch screens and simple functions being hidden behind three sub-menus as others have done.

    • @grtbgf
      @grtbgf 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice, also thank you Kia for hideous styling lol

    • @danielp2673
      @danielp2673 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      At least it has styling. I'd take that over the bland simple look of a Tesla anyday

    • @grtbgf
      @grtbgf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@danielp2673 that's true. Tesla doesn't even have a look.

    • @MrAvant123
      @MrAvant123 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree with this, its great to have some nice touch displays in a car, but this all out must do everything from a touch screen is too much for a lot of people.

    • @racekar80
      @racekar80 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Every reviewer pans cars without a radio volume knob, and a heater temp knob. Also the hepatic controls which are a pain to use. I agree Kia please keep the knobs and buttons for frequently used items.

  • @fteoOpty64
    @fteoOpty64 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The angle in which they designed the rear window glass was perfect, such that it does not need a wiper nor does it accumulate any dirt. Was surprised to see someone having a very dirty rear end yet the glass is squeaky clean. Looks really nice from front on.

  • @markgeezey1809
    @markgeezey1809 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Hi yep 1 pedal option is there and to turn off lane keeping can be done on the steering wheel very easily. ( I think its a EU requirement to default back to lane keeping when you turn off the car)You need to put it in sport mode and you’ll notice the difference massively and then it is similar to polestar 2. I did the same thing when I first drove it and was a little disappointed. Then I was advised to turn on sport mode and then it rocketed. So i suggest you drive it again and put it in sports mode as I found very little difference to that and the Polestar 2. You will know this as the dash turns red. However it is more linear than the polestar and is how Kia wanted to go. A few you tubers have clocked 0-60 at 4.6 secs. Which is pretty quick and carries on accelerating very quickly and you are the first one to say its not quick, (Matt Watson, Jason Plato and others all say its quick) hence why I presume you didn’t have it in sports mode?The front windows are double glazed the rears are not. i tested quite a few electric cars Polestar2, Ford Mach E, Tesla model Y before I ordered an EV6 GT line. I felt all round it was the better car for me and you forgot to mention the other unique features such as the rapid charging speeds(temp allowing) and the vehicle to load feature. I think once you fund out all the features and test it properly as appreciate you haven’t had long with it then I think you’ll appreciate it more. 👍👍

    • @nakoma5
      @nakoma5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes, driving modes make a big difference with EVs!

    • @adrianwilliamson6861
      @adrianwilliamson6861 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He also missed something else rather important. It looks different...like sensationally different!!!

    • @markgeezey1809
      @markgeezey1809 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      100%. My AWD GT line S which is due soon and is in Black and I have ordered separately some 20” satin black wheels and red painted callipers. When done it will look so ‘Darth Vader’ish, especially with ceramic coating on it. The reason for the second-set of wheels is albeit from UK I live in Sweden and we need winter wheels here, so I am not wasting very good 20” factory wheels as these will be my winter wheels and full satin black wheels for the summer. I know the Tesla model3/Y is a great car, but the looks for me just doesn’t float my boat. 🤔

    • @nakoma5
      @nakoma5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@markgeezey1809 The right choice as in expect better dealer maintenance/repair experience as well as quality and reliability than the Tesla. Depreciation is the only thing Tesla might be better at just cause the name.

    • @markgeezey1809
      @markgeezey1809 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nakoma5 Spot on. Yes I think Tesla probably will have the better residual. But here in Sweden second hand values are very high and have been historically compared to typical second hand values back home in the UK. Albeit more expensive to buy initially here, the monthly’s are better than I was getting in the UK. I got a superb residual value albeit i decided to just take a slightly longer finance and have no balloon payment at the end.
      Plus speaking to a few people I know in the industry, the supply and demand for EV’s and taking into account the global shortage of chips and other parts etc will no doubt keep residuals high for sometime to come? Here’s hoping anyway 🙏🏼.

  • @Punisher9419
    @Punisher9419 2 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    I don't really know how to feel about a lot of these EV's coming out with very high power outputs for normal people. I mean these buyers will be coming from cars with maybe 150HP if you are lucky and then going into a car with 300-600HP. I feel like there will be a lot of people not expecting the trouble they can get into when they put their foot to the floor.

    • @samthoma2719
      @samthoma2719 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I think you’re partly right, I also think the kind of people that wouldn’t know about the power when buying and driving are also the kind that are always driving at 3/10ths

    • @malcolmbray4242
      @malcolmbray4242 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Great comment 👍. Plus more power = more energy used, isn't the idea to use less energy and be more planet friendly?

    • @acchaladka
      @acchaladka 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well it CAN be a problem, and there are a few options with two wheel drive which are less powerful, but honestly there are some things which just have to be left to driver's education.

    • @ruk2023--
      @ruk2023-- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Most people will drive them exactly how they already do, which is serenely and anyone booting it was looking for more power in the first place. That's my take on it.

    • @grahamtricker4103
      @grahamtricker4103 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I agree. For todays roads no-one needs more than 300hp. My frustration with companies like Polstar where the base car give a reputed range of 300+ miles for their 2 motor model. But if you want some nice wheels fitted you need to buy the performance pack which now takes you to their 4 motor model with 600hp where the range now drops to about 200 miles per charge which would be useless for me...

  • @matthewpotter8491
    @matthewpotter8491 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Kia chucking out some wonderful stuff now. Bespoke platform for EVs…. Absolutely spot on sir. BMW should take note. That i4 they’ve launched is an absolute joke for that very reason.

    • @fteoOpty64
      @fteoOpty64 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The main reason was that Kia hired away the old BMW M division's head to handle their sports oriented cars. He can do whatever he wants at Kia and the result proves it.

  • @lknight5579
    @lknight5579 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I think there is one pedal driving. You pull the left paddle 4 times and it changes to what they call i-pedal. I have the Ioniq 5, I assume it's the same.

  • @daniel-ino
    @daniel-ino 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can we just appreciate that the car came in a color! and not a shade of gray? Shocking.

  • @edalvut2846
    @edalvut2846 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    JayEmm...I just started watching your videos from here in the USA...you do a great job! Thank you for NOT having the camera aimed at YOU the entire time! I hate when these other guys drone on and on AND THE MAJORITY OF THE REVIEW SHOWS THEMSELVES! UGG! MADDENING!! Also, you discuss very relevant points...things that are pertinent, your comparisons are ON POINT!...Again, GREAT JOB! Ed (Oh...thanks for my new CATCH PHRASE, "Hell for Leather") LOL

  • @rjhandley556
    @rjhandley556 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This will almost certainly be my next daily when the troc r is done. Really like where Kia are going, the design I think is first class. This and the Hyundai both look awesome. It feels like the future in my view.
    Looking forward to your in depth review as ever keep up the great work loving your channel and content

    • @Christian---
      @Christian--- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Seems like this "future" is nothing but nightmarish visions.

  • @TheMrFishnDucks
    @TheMrFishnDucks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Saw one in that boring grey and it is not bad at all. Really wish they just tri dial for HVAC. Fantastic to see physical buttons. A shame about the panoramic roof. Looking forward to you doing more videos. Keep up the good work.

  • @gordonclark7632
    @gordonclark7632 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love how the sunshine changes the colour of the car from red to blue. Range is and always going to be the issue with electric vehicles as the distances driven in Australia are far greater. Your comment on price for charging just shows how companies are going to use supply as a high profit earner just as the petrol companies do here in Aussie.

  • @rogerzamofing8947
    @rogerzamofing8947 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    After our first contact with the EV6 GT-Line AWD we reconsidered all previous choices. We ordered in November 2021 with „full house“ and probably 12 months delivery time. Only problem we need the car by August 2020 because we go to electric events as consultants. Might be the advantage over first deliveries would be an update for winter charge and navigation system, so we keep hopeing and wait.

  • @ontheballcity71
    @ontheballcity71 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Mine should be delivered next month, hopefully.

  • @nickarcher4775
    @nickarcher4775 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video as always, loved the subtle nod to Doug DeMuro. This looks like a sterling effort from Kia. If I was looking for an EV it'd be on my consider list for sure

  • @JBsC6
    @JBsC6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My daily is a corvette c8 z51 and my girls is thenaudi etron with 250 maximum range..l the etron is fabulous and im now an ev convert. The kia ev is awesome.

  • @johang7498
    @johang7498 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very promising car this, who'd have thought only 10 years ago that Hyundai and Kia will lead the way for the traditional car-manufacturers? I'm curious how the EV's from all those new brands will perform and how much they will affect sales of mentioned traditional car-manufacturers. Quite revolutionary times are going on in the automotive world now, it had to happen at some point ...

  • @gxlbiscuit
    @gxlbiscuit 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Jayemm, I can’t wait for you to do a long version!! I’d suspect you didn’t press the right buttons to get into the “fun power” territory. Also the car limits power at lower states of charge. I love your channel, keep em coming.

  • @smiddlehurst1
    @smiddlehurst1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    One thought on city range: I’d suggest that those driving and *living* in a city are more likely to struggle with at-home charging, at least until local authorities get serious about providing on-street charging. As such the longer the range the less frequently they’d have to visit a commercial charger.

    • @jamesengland7461
      @jamesengland7461 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Providing? By that, you mean taking money from your pockets to spend on building charging infrastructure for others' cars.

  • @comeberza
    @comeberza 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've already seen one of this and it looks so different, distinct.

  • @ianworley8169
    @ianworley8169 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At last. An unbiased EV review by a proper motoring journalist. Neither the usual tech obsessed EV evalgelist or anti-EV petrol-head.

  • @youbencowell
    @youbencowell 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You've got the points I noticed. Accelerator pedal artificially slow to respond, regeneration could be stronger, stereo could be better. It's just not as fun to drive as the Mk1 Soul EV even though it's faster. Will wait for the GT before testing again and making my mind up.

  • @conradphillips5634
    @conradphillips5634 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Jay been watching your video's for a couple of years now. Been looking for the right Evora 400 for past 8 months ( Hens teeth at the moment i know!). Coincidentally have also just ordered the KIa EV6 as main car. Gone for the mid spec GT line with AWD. To my mind best performance without sacrificing range too much as the 20 inch wheels cripple range somewhat. Also not a fan of the fancy gizmo's on Top model. I test drove the Polestar on same day also & although the style of Polestar is more pleasing to the eye & the Google assisant was brilliant i found it lagging the Kia in so many other ways. The EV6 just has more comfort & space. Also rides much better. PS Very informative video as allways.

  • @alexandrecouture2462
    @alexandrecouture2462 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just wanted to say that I love these reviews. Thank you!

  • @rogeradshead7345
    @rogeradshead7345 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Right on point with your comments on range standards.

  • @robsmith1a
    @robsmith1a 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good point about motorway range. I used to have a Zoe ZE40 and around town 200 miles range but 70 mph it was more like 125 miles (the best tactic given that it didn't rapid charge was to slipstream a truck and then it was 180 miles). My Mercedes SLK is 30 mpg around town but 40 mpg at 70 mph, as you say the opposite.

  • @philcrockford5534
    @philcrockford5534 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Having had the chance to spend some time in a Polestar 2 last summer I am scratching my head a little over your comments about the accelerator and low speed handling. I found it to be completely intuitive from the start, and given the performance on tap the slightly graduated start was very welcome. The handling was also impeccable at any speed, although the model I drove didn't have the sports suspension (and I suspect was a lot better as a result). The fit and finish was also excellent!

    • @benjaminsmith2287
      @benjaminsmith2287 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree. The Polestar 2 drives well. And it doesn't need the sports suspension as the regular suspension was quite firm over the bumps I went over. But it was comfortable. Any stiffer would not be. The fit, finish is great but the real standout is just how solid it feels.

  • @christopherrosson1549
    @christopherrosson1549 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really enjoyed the video. Am really interested in the Kia and found the appraisal so useful, particularly in respect of the performance and somewhat appears to be lacking in kickdown. Also, your comments on expected range on motorways, etc, when driving at high speeds, was really invaluable. Look forward to your further in-depth review, hopefully not far away. In the meantime a long test drive would be something I will be doing.

  • @Astke
    @Astke 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the sound system not having much bass is a good thing. The sound system is very balanced and very clear, instead of overly bassy like most in-car sound systems. A lot of bass often means the sound system is actually poorly tuned, not well tuned. I am always having to put the bass at -7 out of 10 in 90% of systems. In the Kia it is only at -1 or 2 for a balanced sound. That in my eyes is a sign that the system is actually very well calibrated. It reminds me of my reference headphones at home (Sennheiser HD600) which are one of the best and most balanced headphones you can get.

  • @harald.370
    @harald.370 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This one takes spot 1 of my next company car (electric mandatory)

  • @kevinwhite8836
    @kevinwhite8836 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    5 to 6p per kW charging at home? Maybe 2 years ago James, even economy 7 off-peak rates are likely to be 2 to 3 times this price. Most daytime rates are currently 22p to 28p per KW.
    I thought the 11p per KW anytime of day Octopus offer people with solar panels and a Tesla power wall 2 was one of the very best anytime rates.
    Admittedly 70p to 80p per KW charging costs are way too high for fast charging.

    • @jamesengland7461
      @jamesengland7461 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      70 to 80 p/kwh is the energy equivalent of £6.30-7.20 per liter! Outrageous!

  • @thezanzibarbarian5729
    @thezanzibarbarian5729 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Jay. Only just found you via PetrolPed. Good to see another Brit doing car reviews 8-))...
    PS - Just subbed to you too. _Awesome!_ ;-))...

  • @peterrolt6403
    @peterrolt6403 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loved your comment about the annoying lane departure "assist" and agree 100%.
    Two questions to ponder, 1st, about modern vehicles, mostly EV's, they have all become monstrously large, how is that planet friendly or necessary?
    2nd, It seems every car advert on TV is made in a city totally devoid of other vehicles???

    • @JayEmmOnCars
      @JayEmmOnCars  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Two valid points - and one does have to ask how much the solution to congestion and pollution in our cities was enormous 2.5 tonne electric cars, and not tiny economical little hatchbacks

    • @SDK2006b
      @SDK2006b 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The planet friendly point comes from the lack of emissions out the back. Reducing pollution where people live and operate is the first step.
      e.g. Sitting in a queue of traffic behind several ICE cars feels like the same experience someone had when they were being gassed ! Do the same with several EV's and you can breathe without feeling sick and/or choking 🤢

    • @peterrolt6403
      @peterrolt6403 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SDK2006b that's over dramatic, we have driven and cycled for decades without feeling sick or choking 🤔, the worst we have ever experienced are old diesels (often buses), two stroke engines and early Scandinavian catalytic converters, all of which have been replaced by better systems to the point where the ICE is a much cleaner and more economical device. There is a group of Pro EV owners who are not able to look at the situation subjectively, "Tesla owners syndrome" aiming to batter those of us not convinced into compliance.

    • @SDK2006b
      @SDK2006b 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@peterrolt6403 - I realise EV’s are not for everyone at the moment. Those who do high daily miles and the people who don’t have drives to recharge at home.
      I regularly drive through rush hour traffic on the school run & commute and following or sitting behind an ICE car smells and tastes horrible. Open the window and it’s worse. How can that be good or sustainable🤷🏼‍♂️
      I used to cycle 6k miles a year and now I run a little and it’s always the same when a car, van or truck goes past. You can taste the fumes in the air.
      I’m all for keeping weekend fun special ICE cars but let’s get these other polluting boxes off our roads and streets 👍🏼

  • @FreePizza007
    @FreePizza007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Electric price for us at home is 20p per kwh. Not 5p that time has long gone. Inc VAT

    • @StuartJ
      @StuartJ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can get night time cheap rates, although come April, it will most likely be over 20p for even the cheapest rate.

    • @FreePizza007
      @FreePizza007 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StuartJ no night time cheap rates for us. Because we have both gas and electricity. We can't get it.

    • @StuartJ
      @StuartJ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FreePizza007 I have both gas and electricity. I asked for Economy 7, and I got it.
      Besides, there are night-time EV tariffs now so long as you have a smart meter.

  • @amphilbey
    @amphilbey 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Enjoyed the review. Was quite taken by one of these at Goodwood FoS back in the summer as potential future replacement for my 330D Touring one day though lack of a driveway in the city still makes me a bit nervous about charging though the city range would clearly last for ages. Good to see more EV options for those who don't want a SUV, much more interesting than recent launches from the usual German brands.

  • @ed2209
    @ed2209 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honda had the indicator camera years ago; circa 2015, though it was only on the right indicator. Loved the feature, was sad when they nixed it in favor of traditional blindspot monitors on both sides. Glad the feature is returning elsewhere, and on both signals.

  • @AllTorque
    @AllTorque 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That is a very accurate view of buyer habits. I agree it will become increasingly hard to convert buyers and at that point pricing disincentives via legislation or tax will be the only tool left.

  • @mudskipper0075
    @mudskipper0075 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    These Koreans are smashing it ,back is a bit weird but I could live with it….👍

    • @STEVIEBHOY
      @STEVIEBHOY 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The ugliest arse on a car...EVER

  • @mikadavies660
    @mikadavies660 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Happy to see you are getting a selection of EV's. Certainly looking forward to the proper GT model. When it arrives.

  • @global_nomad.
    @global_nomad. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    still feel more drawn to the Ionic in terms of exterior design language...but would be good to compare these back to back - i've seen the Ionic irl but not sure i've spotted an EV6 (in London)

  • @talkandplay
    @talkandplay 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I still think the Mach-e has more of a WOW factor than the EV6 plus Mach-e has wireless android auto and a few other extras over the EV6.Although the blind spot tech in EV6 much better.

  • @djdrastic1
    @djdrastic1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not a huge EV guy but love this thing.

  • @warshrike666
    @warshrike666 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My Kia Stinger GT TT has the same camera when you indicate mate is on all the top lvl Kia's now. Its a cool feature but not something thats is really useful unless you are reverse parking then its awesome to have that extra camera angle when reversing with your indicator on. For lane changing and stuff my side mirrors have all the blind spot stuff on.

  • @mplovecraft
    @mplovecraft 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super interesting car - and very impressive! I'm incredibly curious about their upcoming cars, especially the smaller city/second car EVs.

  • @Chris-mh3vf
    @Chris-mh3vf 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the colour change exterior a real breakthrough

  • @robertasviskupaitis9195
    @robertasviskupaitis9195 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    WHAT
    Where are you getting 5-6P per KWH????
    M29 Manchester, Tyldesley , living in one room flat, electricity here is 19p per KWH and this was the best quote I could get online going through comparison website, last year they wanted to charge me 29 from 16 so had to change to EDF and it is 19p per KWH now...

    • @JayEmmOnCars
      @JayEmmOnCars  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It may be a while since I negotiated my tarriff

  • @garyquinlan4075
    @garyquinlan4075 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The EV6 is better in EVERY way including its integrated dash, whereas the Mach-E looks as though someone forgot to integrate the screen and glued it on at the last moment!

  • @austinedwards1918
    @austinedwards1918 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I now have my four top presters for Top Gear you, Rory Reid, Petrol Ped and Matt from high peak autos

  • @jasonspollen8998
    @jasonspollen8998 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm surprised the UK GT Line doesn't have the same double laminate front windows like our Irish cars have. Both our trim levels Earth & GT Line have this. You mentioned your test car hadn't got the double glaze.

  • @Ober1kenobi
    @Ober1kenobi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Some People don’t and won’t ever realise how good Kia and Hyundai have become

  • @spamcrud5639
    @spamcrud5639 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very tempting. This..... ..... or a decent secondhand ipace? Hmmm. It's about time Jay did the Jaaag EV. Pretty please.

  • @Ametisti
    @Ametisti 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm not too sure how I feel about the styling on this, specifically with the rear. I see the line they were going with but it looks.. maybe a tad awkward? I did like the look of the Ioniq 5 though

  • @grahamtricker4103
    @grahamtricker4103 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Our Renault Zoe registers 190 mile range in the summer, whereas in the winter that drops to 140 miles range. Add motorway journeys in the winter and as you can see the range isn't good!

  • @Veejp
    @Veejp 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sport mode gives you the punch you describe.

  • @gabrielcaramet3238
    @gabrielcaramet3238 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Question when would you be able to review a genessis

  • @jibbyjabby7499
    @jibbyjabby7499 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not a fan of electric cars but love the look of the Hyundai ioniq 5. Looks really futuristic.

    • @lelisamohamed4355
      @lelisamohamed4355 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Y are u not fan engine unreliable,noisy,yearly service u do nothing with ev

    • @jibbyjabby7499
      @jibbyjabby7499 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lelisamohamed4355 until the battery gives in and then you may as well scrap the vehicle.

  • @paulscott1759
    @paulscott1759 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Saw a review on the polestar 2 and against a volvo S60 the tax breaks alone on B.I.K is about £3500 for a 20% taxpayer rising to £5700 a year for a 40% taxpayer that's a lot of cash in pocket so will definitely make a difference to company car drivers

  • @dasstig5274
    @dasstig5274 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seen a fair few of these here in NZ. Im an ev skeptic, but i think these look good, and dont have the snob factor of the Tesla brand.

  • @StuartJ
    @StuartJ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you sure this is the AWD version? It should be a lot quicker than suggested, especially in sports mode. I test drove the RWD model, and it seemed more in line with your review. Quick, but super smooth delivery. Different driving modes, as selected on the steering wheel, make a big difference to how it responds.

  • @brusselssprouts560
    @brusselssprouts560 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Both this and the Ioniq6 are beauties and are placed to appeal to different sectors. The EV6 is for those who want a bit of fun when they drive, and the Ioniq6 is for busy families (school run etc). My issue is the price of them, which of course is the same for all EVs. I would also be reluctant to buy one as I am sure that hydrogen gas will make a big appearance at some stage. It would completely solve what to do with all sorts of legacy internal combustion engines.

  • @daveseemerollin6357
    @daveseemerollin6357 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Used to think KIA stood for Killed In Action, now it stands for Killing It, Aye!

  • @pgl79
    @pgl79 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I haven't even watched this yet but you've got a thumbs up from me! 😁
    The EV6 is a pretty darn good car - I have a few qualms but overall impressive

  • @laskos02
    @laskos02 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I saw like five of ioniq 5's in Prague already, but no Ev6's - interesting

  • @thegooddoctor6719
    @thegooddoctor6719 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love the content as usual. Maybe I missed it but you didn't mention the Mustang Mach-E in your talking narrative - only the polestar. Why include the Mustang Mach-E in the title of the video if you didn't talk about it or compare the Kia to it ?????

    • @JayEmmOnCars
      @JayEmmOnCars  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's a good point - the title usually comes after the video, I think it's because I forgot my Mach-E drive never got released.

    • @thegooddoctor6719
      @thegooddoctor6719 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JayEmmOnCars It's an honor that you replied to me. Thank you. Also I'm really looking forward to you reviewing the C8. If you were in the states, I would let you drive mine......

    • @youbencowell
      @youbencowell 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JayEmmOnCars Why wasn't it released? You and I think pretty much the same about the EV6, I wonder if you think the same about the Mach-E?

    • @JayEmmOnCars
      @JayEmmOnCars  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@youbencowell it was not my press car and the original plan for it never came to fruition. By the time I could release it I think the window was missed

  • @jaydub5515
    @jaydub5515 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That does sound like a better metric for rating EVs

  • @arnoldtabor3767
    @arnoldtabor3767 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    They need to have a official flat out motorway range test a pure city test and then a combined test and all car should (hybrid and electric) have to publish all 3 and they should have to do all 3 in ideal and 15⁰c and -5⁰c (sorta the extremes of the UK) so the good number, the sorts average number and the bad winter number

  • @waynemangan9925
    @waynemangan9925 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Anytime in the history of vehicles that a non defeatable control system has been implemented, tragedy has ensued. Lane keep systems of any kind would be laughed out of the room before auto makers hadnt all decided that being a naturally aware (good driver) driver was no longer important to them. The only useful automatic control is collision sensing braking.

  • @mustsilm
    @mustsilm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The new logo looks like KN

  • @brianiswrong
    @brianiswrong 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The "wing" mirror looks a horrible shape (is it for aerodynamics) on the outer side of the glass, 🤔

  • @catothom
    @catothom 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've ordered a GT Line with 4x4. What's the difference with the GT line S and GT line?

  • @niffty5087
    @niffty5087 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent review. KIA is putting out some great products nowadays. Unfortunately, after having traded my Lexus for a 2nd Gen Kia K900 I predict the EV6 will fail or underperform for the exact same reasons. Namely, KIA will decline to put any advertising budget behind the car beyond giving it to all “the usual” TH-cam reviews who will rightfully say it is the best thing since sliced bread for the money (read stinger). Sad to say but the Tesla “crowd” is deeply entrenched and will not be swayed by excellent and balanced TH-cam reviews. Might be able to slice off some BMW buyers since they are all approaching $100k in some configurations

  • @watchfan6180
    @watchfan6180 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What do you think of Pearl Acoustics loudspeakers?

  • @andrewmoorhouse687
    @andrewmoorhouse687 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This looks an interesting car and one to definitely consider if going EV. KIA seem to have really upped their game over the last few years, going from a budget and somewhat maligned brand to being a real contender. At £40k this isn’t cheap by any means, but still £10k or so less than you’d pay for an a arguably more premium car, such as BMW’s i4. I’ve been considering EVs as either one or my only source of transport for a while. The conclusion I’ve come to is that for now I’ll stick with my petrol car. I think I may well keep this one for quite a number of years because: 1) it is probably the most environmentally responsible thing to do; 2) the longer I leave it the better EV cars will be; 3) My current car is relatively new, good fun and does all I need; 4) I may not even be living in this country in a few years the way things are going here in the U.K. and so may want a left hand drive car; 5) The public charging infrastructure should be improved by then wherever I happen to be; 6) You can’t consume your way to be better environmentally, as so much of any product’s carbon emissions are created in its manufacture and that’s before you get on to dubious mining methods and working practices, finite resources, shipping distances of raw materials etc.
    It’s a really interesting point James you made re the range of EVs. Working in ‘reverse’ to ICE cars means their range is at its worst when you want it to be at its best. Adding range in town from lots of regen breaking is great, but you’re more likely to be near a charger. On the open road is where a greater range comes into its own. I do a reasonable amount of longer journeys, so I think an EV would still frustrate at times, even if it would probably do the other 90% fine. A decent charging infrastructure is what’s really needed.

    • @SDK2006b
      @SDK2006b 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes all good points !
      The charging infrastructure needs to improve and it is. There are many 'EV charging forecourts' appearing along motorways now.

  • @robertvanzant2653
    @robertvanzant2653 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How would you compare the ride quality compared to the model 3 on 19inch wheels ?

  • @adriaanserrao2016
    @adriaanserrao2016 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    weird that the kia doesn't have wireless android auto, it's standard on my mom's 2021 kia sonet. and that's only 12500 pound when converted for the base model.

  • @peterrolt6403
    @peterrolt6403 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Very interesting and whilst this seems a big step forward for EV's, £40k is still a lot of money for people where we live. Most folk have cheaper second hand cars or buy budget brands like Citroën, Dacia and MG, the majority of local employment does not pay enough to buy or lease a car this expensive. Until good budget EV's appear, it seems a large proportion of the population are excluded from embarking on the EV journey.

    • @SDK2006b
      @SDK2006b 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Citroën and MG sell cheaper EV's.
      Of course you can't compare new prices to used prices...... usually.
      Just wait a few years until the used ones hit market. A 3 year old MG ZS is going to be about £10k-£15k

    • @stu4181
      @stu4181 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So here’s the thing, tax breaks basically make these cars 40% cheaper for companies, so they are all double what the equivalent ice car is!

    • @ioandragulescu6063
      @ioandragulescu6063 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      well, I got my mazda 3 in 2017, mid trim for a bit under 20k euro. When they put out a similar priced car with the same range (even in winter) and I can "fill" it up in 10 minutes or so ... I'll say I'm in.

    • @SDK2006b
      @SDK2006b 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ioandragulescu6063 - inflation means that £20k you spent in 2017 is now about £22k in 2022 (UK inflation data), so you need to adjust your thinking on budget.
      Why do you actually need to re-charge in 10 minutes? 🤔 Do you regularly drive more than 200-250 miles in one trip without taking a 30 minute break in 4-6 hours of driving?
      Again, re-think how you ‘fill up’. When recharging you do it whilst you are doing something else. If you’re sitting around waiting for the car to re-charge then you’re doing it wrong!

    • @stu4181
      @stu4181 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ioandragulescu6063 even with ‘normal’ inflation of 4/5% a 20k car is going to be 25k 5 years later…
      By the time the ban comes in
      I don’t think there is much chance of a full battery charge in 10mins, probably more likely battery capacity/regeneration and more efficient motors making ranges of 500 or more miles but will still require plugging in over night for hours….

  • @karengill8234
    @karengill8234 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mines on order unfortunately I have a 32 week wait.

  • @austinedwards1918
    @austinedwards1918 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Review.

  • @poovaneswaransupramaniam19
    @poovaneswaransupramaniam19 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice review

    • @gribbles1146
      @gribbles1146 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Poo poo all my opps are poo

  • @TheMisterB2u
    @TheMisterB2u 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "With the Polestar you choose which engine you want"(4 minutes in) !

  • @benjaminsmith2287
    @benjaminsmith2287 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't agree that this and the Polestar are in the same category. This car is bigger and the Polestar is a sedan. It's a small sedan with a hatchback that sits maybe, maybe an inch higher than most sedans. But there's nothing "crossover" about it. This car is more crossover like. And the Polestar 2 is not bespoke. It's sitting on a hybrid platform. The Polestar 4 will be bespoke and in the EV6's category but that's not even going to be introduced until late next year.
    All-in-all, this looks like a fantastic car. Polestar has a racing heritage and is really a Volvo in origin, it feels European and probably has the handling advantage if you push it. But I'm a big fan of the Kia and think it competes with the Model Y, Ford Mach E, VW ID. 4, and vehicles like that. The Model 3 and Polestar 2 compete with each other and I feel both of them are sedans. The Volvo XC40 Recharge is a "crossover" or small SUV but smaller than the others.

  • @duncanmartin2626
    @duncanmartin2626 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    5p per kWh? Where? Standard tariff electricity is probably 5 times that or more.

  • @aymanlockhartable
    @aymanlockhartable 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant!

  • @lvthud
    @lvthud 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A quick US perspective. It's a nice car, 10 months after Kia (and Hyundai for that fact) started shoving the EV6 and Ioniq into our faces, you still can't get a price out of them except for the $57k initial release of the EV6, but okay, not something to really worry about. Big problem though, talking to my companies leasing agent, they are estimating a 3 year residual 45%.....So your $50k EV is suddenly worth $23k. Okay, all cars depreciate, but take a Model 3, that loses 23% over 3 years. To get to the point, at least in the US the majority of new EV's are leased, so either Kia/Hyundai are going to be eating a chunk of the difference or the Tesla will have a huge advantage in lease payments.

    • @markgeezey1809
      @markgeezey1809 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi in Europe it is very different. Again we use leases as you do. However the demand in Europe is high and the supply is low. Plus as it is becoming a requirement over the next few years to move away from ICE vehicles and manufacturers will struggle to keep up with demand, it means that residuals on most EV’s are very high. I easily got similar to what I would have got with Tesla. However second hand residual’s are high over here. So maybe it’s a North American thing?

    • @lvthud
      @lvthud 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@markgeezey1809 Kia and Hyundai have never had great residuals over here, which was understandable 20 years ago, but they have been making some great cars (K900 and Stinger jump to mind) I don't know if the company I was talking to just used their historical value or they have some other knowledge, but it's going to make for some bargains in a couple of years.

  • @thedetailingdoctor5746
    @thedetailingdoctor5746 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really like the Hyundai Ioniq 5 good range and great looks!

  • @ConstantinSPurcea
    @ConstantinSPurcea 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The motorway range is principally because of the lack of gears. In town in your average ICE car you're in 3-4th gear, at 2-3k rpm. On the motorway you're in 5-6th gear (if manual) at the same RPM. With an electric car that revs to 8-10k rpm, you're probably seeing VMax of 100mph at 10k rpm. So 30mph is at 3k rpm. There is no idle. So that motor barely ever gets to its peak power draw in town whereas on the motorway it stays at a consistent 7k rpm, which from a idk, 150kW motor on little load, that's probably still around 15-20kWh of average draw from the batteries. They should in all honesty add overdrive gears for motorway use only. They don't take up much space and would save lots of power. I mean, most EVs already have a 10x gear reduction or thereabouts so having a 10x and a 5x would be ideal.

    • @youbencowell
      @youbencowell 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's not how electric motors work. The power usage depends on the volts and amps that the controller allows the motor to use. Your description treats it as a switch; either on or off.

  • @byebyebadman2313
    @byebyebadman2313 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Isn't it 'strange' how electricity becomes more expensive, the more we get EVs. Can't wait for all the new taxes that will eventually appear.

    • @AP13P
      @AP13P 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Already done so in Norway. Where diesel cars are now on par with EVs in terms of "refueling".

  • @conner.9262
    @conner.9262 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The rear view has a big resemblance of the Aston Martin DBX …… SIDE rear view looks like Jaguar SUV …… looks good !

    • @sparky4878
      @sparky4878 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was thinking that too, front looks very I-Pace with DBX at the back.

  • @ashliehiggins
    @ashliehiggins 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    5-6p/KwH, jog on sonny, it's more like 15p these days.

    • @tonymoreton7166
      @tonymoreton7166 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Or 20p now.

    • @adrianmassey6673
      @adrianmassey6673 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, those days are long gone, save for a few people still with legacy fixed deals

    • @lknight5579
      @lknight5579 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Octopus Go remains 5p per kWh between 00:30 and 4.30am.

    • @SDK2006b
      @SDK2006b 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      As mentioned - low peak rates are still well under 10p

  • @MarcusTDM
    @MarcusTDM 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where was the last shot filmed?

  • @chrisogrady28
    @chrisogrady28 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This would be so cool at 0.7x scale. Why is every car a fat SUV lump?

  • @cirian75
    @cirian75 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    B Roll Manchester city centre, nice

  • @markwilson8465
    @markwilson8465 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Re your range comment - the WLTP combined figure is made up from 52% urban, 48% extra-urban so as near as make no odds 50/50. So calculating motorway range if u have the urban figure is simple - and disappointingly revealing

  • @zzhughesd
    @zzhughesd 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where was this shot thanks

  • @edsilvester
    @edsilvester 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I disagree with your observation on range and cities. If you have a wall charger; fine. But millions of ev owners will be charging periodically. So range really effects how often you charge in a week.

  • @SDK2006b
    @SDK2006b 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    We haven’t got your Polestar 2 video yet.

    • @JayEmmOnCars
      @JayEmmOnCars  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I know, was supposed to be out already. My bad

    • @SDK2006b
      @SDK2006b 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JayEmmOnCars - no probs, just thought I’d missed it. Having been driving one since October 2020, I’m looking forward to it, seeing as you have driven most cars 👍🏻

  • @mrmitch5054
    @mrmitch5054 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where did you film this Jay?

  • @gabrielcaramet3238
    @gabrielcaramet3238 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My second fav ev after the audi rs E tron gt

  • @chrisogrady28
    @chrisogrady28 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    5p per KWh at home in the UK? What are you smoking Jay haha

    • @SDK2006b
      @SDK2006b 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Looks at Octopus Go off peak rates, they were 5p/kWh at the time of this video recording, now they have increased slightly to about 7.5p

  • @psykoklown874
    @psykoklown874 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think EV range tests should be worst case scenario. Tell me the least amount of range I should expect. To me, that would go further in selling me on a particular EV. A nighttime, worst winter conditions imaginable (driving into high winds)? That is the real opportunity for auto makers to give figures that will ease people's range anxiety. I'd love to see something like Winter/Summer (min/max) range/mpg on all vehicles myself. I know that high numbers sell ICE vehicles, but EV is a very different animal when travelling any distance.

  • @enol8603
    @enol8603 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A-pillars look MASSIVE...