Ruger/Marlin 1895 SUCKS! (because of this…)
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- This is the worst thing about the new Ruger Marlin 1895 series of rifles. The rifle itself is great, but the lack of ammo availability makes it less great to deal with.
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“Ammo for these is really hard to find” shows hoarded case of said ammo
That is not horded. Thats only like 200 rounds. You should see my collection of 7.62x39.
Edit: I realize now that apparently 1200 isn’t a ton and I need to buy more. Thank you for helping me realize this.
@@FNWendigo how much do you have
@@deadlymig123 I’d say in the ballpark of 1200
@@deadlymig123 I’ve shot some of it recently so I don’t have an exact number.
@@FNWendigo respectfully 1200 isn't much of a hord ether
This is one to handload for.
Exactly. Still expensive but cheaper than factory stuff.
444 to 😢
My thought exactly.
True that.
LOL…. Find primers
We live in a modern age and everything sucks. Take me back to 1895.
No I've played Red Dead 2 let's go back a little bit earlier
Any period before penicillin is likely to be rather rough.
@@Grabthar191 I would still rather live then
you would've died at 8 of diarrhea
a yes, dying of fever or TB before 16 😂
I always wanted a 45-70 however you got to buy a .357 if you actually want to shoot it more than once a year
yes, or .44 mag isn't hard to find either. I avoid stuff that's just too hard to find.
@@Z1gguratVert1go only problem with 357 and 44 magnum is you have to take a second mortgage out on your house to buy it at least around my area it's not going cheap
@@JamesBond-so1of But you can actually find .357 or .44, who can find 45-70? The only lead on 45-70 I've ever found was a guy who loads his own.
I can’t even find the marlin rifle to buy let alone ammo
I've got one stainless and one blued for sale.
@@bradsischo9886 I’m looking for the trapper with threaded barrel
@@efm2169 I have one at the shop
@@bradsischo9886 what’s the price?
@@efm2169 2200 which we know is high but we payed more than we wanted just to get a couple into the store. We are going to put them on gun broker if they don't sell here and who knows what will happen there. We've seen them go for over 3k on there. We can ship to an FFL
30-30 would be my preferred caliber lol I don’t mind 45-70 just don’t need something that expensive 😂
35rem
@@bryanrmcnair01 What are you hunting/shooting?
@@victorrhone6785 rats
@victor Rhone Whitetail in thick ridges with undergrowth and pine thickets! Yes 3030 would be "enough" but that 35 is just a BEAST when ya have no longer shot than 50 yards!
Had it in the original 336 model ...sadly lost it in house fire(seriously) Was gone replace it with Rem remake but holding out now till Ruger makes it soon! Also lost Ruger Americans in 6.5 predator and 243 younth!
45-70 has always been pricey, but it's not hard to find and certainly for less than $100. More like $50 or $60 per box of 20.
..and reload 100 rounds for $50
Not in South Carolina
They are $85 to $100 a box in South Carolina, if you can find them
50$ a box in Cleveland
$48 box of 20, I guess you’re buying silver bullets, werewolf much?
this was my problem with 30 30 so I just got a .357 lever action
I have hard time to find 357ammo.
Get some lead, powder, primers and roll your own.
If you can get a cheap Lee Loader it will keep your rifles fed.
45-70 and 30-30 ammo is like searching for a damned unicorn
I’ve had good luck with 30-30 these last few weeks out in CO
I traded 2 boxes of 9mm for 2 boxes of 30/30 150gr not long ago. Not sure what he was thinking but he definitely lost that trade
I find them in just about every store I go to.
@@danielc.2042 I've got a feeling at least where I live somebody sees that ammo type, buys it up, and it sells at a gun shows for twice the price
@@danielc.2042. Same, I see at least 5 different 30-30 ammo choices in every sporting store I go into
I'm sitting at my reloading bench and finding the only thing freakin' Sick is a person that doesn't RELOAD.
Primers are a bitch to find tho.
Primers are plentiful and cheap, if you can find factory loaded 4570, you can find primers
@@HomerEscobar1 so you would buy a fresh box of ammo…. only to pull the bullet and reload it?
@Juan Gil in my area, the most plentiful type of primers to be found are pistol primers. I wouldn’t be too keen to attempt modifying cartridges to accept the wrong type of primer. One could risk a blowout which isn’t exactly a good thing, or a squibbed bullet which is even worse.
@@811brian I could see that after 3 holiday beverages one might take my comment in such a way.
What I intended was this: every time I go to the shops to look for components I find primers in several sizes, I have only seen one box of 4570 on the shelf though...
In my area we consistently have it, however you can only buy a couple boxes at a time due to its rarity.
This is where handloading pays off in huge dividends. Even more savings if you start casting your own projectiles, and 45-70 can even be run with black powder if you don’t mind cleaning your rifle after each range trip. Super versatile cartridge in that regard
My reloads are only .$58. I found some 405gr hard cast lead for $10 a box of 50. I’ve since gone on to reload 44, 30-06, and 357. Such a gratifying hobby.
4570 is one of the round I first ever hand loaded fun round to mess with and quite easy
So true
Not a popular weapon that’s the issue
Coolest lever action rifle I've seen. Love those
The big box stores and local shops here all have 45-70 ammo on the shelf. Even different makes.
Wanted one real bad, had the money, then started looking at ammo. Even reloading 45/70 was going to cost a fortune. Opted for a 308 instead, lots of ammo for that, lots of brass to be found, literally. If I could have found one, the Ruger/Marlin, I probably would have still bought one. Unfortunately not a one to be found around here.
Could be worse, try finding 450 marlin! That’s essentially a belted magnum version of the 45/70
I find 45-70 more often then 45LC.
Isn’t that the truth. I have both. I bought 45lc online. Can’t say I have seen them in the shelf anywhere I have been in a long time
45-70 is everywhere where I’m at. One of the few rounds that has been a constant
Can't hardly find 30-30. I always try to get 150 grain hollow points. But yeah, good luck finding those
Love mine, start reloading, its fun and saves 5hitloads of money
I have 444 marlin. Love it
I'm remembering 32 years ago, when I bought a Marlin 1895SS, most people thought it was an obsolete caliber from the 19th Century, and the only ammo you could find was 300 grain hollow point or 405 grain flat nose, all loaded to black powder specs because of all the antique Springfield trapdoor rifles still kicking around.
The more things change the more they stay the same! 45-70 will probably be going strong 200 years after it came out!
Best bet for readily available ammo would be 357. In lever action
Agree
I have the blued version. I love it.
I roll my own! I just need to find one 👊😎🇺🇸
Awww… I wanted to buy one, but that ammo is too expensive.
Well, thanks for the info.
I took ownership of my grandfather's 336 3030 and decided to start reloading. Been doing it 5 years now. Been great !
hint hint....
I just bought a lever action made by uberti went with .357 mag I use it to deer hunt with plus I can also shoot .38 special and ammo is always fairly inexpensive.
FFT if you get a can built for it build up some subsonic 38s and you'll know which are which when you're using them.
Go from a loud bang to a frogs fart by what you feed it.
I briefly had a Rossi 92 SBL in .357. Shooting .38 out of it was softer than a suppressor, was amazing. But I sold it since I have the new Marlin SBL, and I sold it for way more than I paid. But now I want another
@@bullgravy6906 check out some uberti rifles they’re great I’ve been highly impressed!
Beautiful rifle man
I just bought ammo straight from grizzly. Like $34 a box.
Have always wanted one of these or a henry in 45-70. Grew up with .44 mag lever guns, but wanted something a little more. But this right here is what kept me from getting one. Can't find ammo anywhere! Period. And when you find it (pretty much has to be online) it's more expensive than the ammo for a freaking elephant gun! That was the deal breaker for me and it still breaks my heart. Such a beautiful firearm.
The price is starting to come down but yea it’s wild
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All the ammo I want Alaska!!!
Was going to say you live in the wrong state hahaha. I'm in AK too.
Load your own. As we say in the homebrew community "You can brew better than you can buy."
That's why I wanna get a lever gun that just shoots .44 Magnum, that's pretty plentiful
Go with .357 instead. .38spl is way more plentiful than .44spl when you’re looking to shoot cheaper.
Or don’t, I’m not your boss. Hell get both, then you can’t go wrong
I want one!!!
“They’re so popalar”
You live under a rock lmao have you never seen one
I can't find 30.30 or 243 ammo locally either. I've ordered some online and as you said, you'll pay a lot of money for it.
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If old Dale Magee , the former owner of the castle in Raymond Ms was alive , you could have all you wanted. He purchased tons of little used ammo.....he sold me 2500 rounds of 257 Roberts for $400 back in the day. I always wondered what happened to his stockpiles of ammo and old military guns. If he were alive today ,he would be a multi millionaire. He even stocked 10 ga shotgun shells. The last time I visited him ,he had 70 plus cases of 45-70.
Hard too find mean while my local shop has cases on cases of these😂😂
It’s either hard to find or in your case, expensive as hell and plentiful
HSM or Grizzly reman cowboy loads are available at sportsman’s warehouse for around 2 shmeckles per bang
What blows my mind is 30-30 can’t be found anywhere.
Not to mention a lever rifle used to be $400-600.
I ditched my 336 because ammo was becoming very scarce and super pricey. Last I checked .30-30 was going for $2.50+ a round.
The ammo problem isn’t limited to the 45-70. It’s getting hard to find affordable ammo for just about every gun you can think of that isn’t a .308 or 9mm. I have several guns like 30.06, 6.5 PRC, 12 and 20 gauge, 270, 243, and many more and I can hardly find ammo for any of them below $80 a box and that’s if I even find them which is rare.
45-70 has become insanely popular and the ammo companies are jacking the prices up and keeping supply low
this is why i love having a buddy who reloads
I have the same issue finding reasonably priced 30 carbine
Ammo .
Worst thing about the new Ruger/Marlin 1895 is the..... price. Double what they use to go for. $1500.00+ these days.
Everyone is making 5.56, 308, 6.5, 9mm, and some 300blk… ain’t nobody got time for 45-70
I have both ruger marlin 1895 19 1/2" and the trapper. Love these guns. Ammo go to midway usa. Yes i have your cuffs in coal on both. Nice pieces
I bought myself a Marlin Trapper 45-70 last Christmas and bought 100 rounds of ammo or five boxes of Hornady leverolution. Spent five cartridges on day one and still have 95 left.
Tell me you don’t handload without saying you don’t handload😂😂😂
Not everyone has the time or money to hand load.......
45-70 Gov is the only Government I trust.
Virtually all ammo manufacturers are focused on churning out .223 & .308, and to a lesser extent .300 blackout and &6.5 creedmoor. Everything else? It's only the super premium hunting ammo because of the much higher margins. I haven't been able to find plinking grade .375 "ouch and ouch" in 4 years, it's all exotic bullet hunting ammo that's $5 every time you pull the trigger.
Yep. I’ve noticed that about all the safari cartridges as well, the only exception being 9.3x62 Mauser, it’s actually fairly available and relatively inexpensive
I'm definitely having a hard time finding 45-70 ammo. Samething with 6.5 grendel ammo too.
I got 84 results on ammoseek, as a 10mm owner you gotta buy it online. Stores charge 50 for a 35 dollar box of 10mm range ammo, if they even have it in stock.
I've never had a issue finding 4570 ammo locally
What area are you in
I have 2 45-70 Henry's. Last Leverevolution I purchased was $39.49 a box December 18, 2021. My last 600 rounds is now a couple hundred. Refuse to pay these new prices.
Hornady was 68 at the local shop. Winchester was 75 bucks for 20. I prefer the federal hammer down and it's about 65
I checked it out on polish market, the gun itself is surprisingly affordable, but the ammunition is damn expensive and seemingly out of stock, sitting at three .223 bullets for one .45-70, although I did manage get 600 well-priced .38 S&W for my Webley mk.IV, so all it really ever needs, especially in a country with less than 3 guns per 100 people, is time.
I'd just buy 200 or so and do reloads.
That’s truly sad. To have such a nice popular piece of equipment and have have ammo shortages. That’s unacceptable
The worst thing about them, is how crazy the pricings gotten. Its a simple lever action, with plain jane stamped walnut. I paid $400 for one in 2000. 😮
I have never had a problem finding ammo for mine.
I run
•Underwood Hunter Extreme 225g
•Hornady LR monoflex 250g
•Hornady LR 350g
Choice Ammunition and Black Butterfly Ammunition both have a ton of 45-70 options at fair prices.
Reloading them is easy. Also the worst this is actually the little screw that retains the loading gate.... It breaks off on the 45-70 from time to time and jams the gun to the point that it is impossible to use. Had to take mine to a gunsmith 3 times to fix. Screw is to small to hold up to the recoil of the 45-70 I think. I sold it and bought a single shot break action 45-70.
Hurry up with the .444 version. Essentially a .44 Supermag+
I made the mistake of looking at the price of 45-70 Govt.... Yea I do not need a Marlin!
Grizzly Ammunition for the Hard hitting 45-70 .
it's not just the 45-70 out there that's hard to find. I shoot 338 Winchester Magnum and their heart as hell to find I have been looking for over a year and have not found anything yet luckily I stacked back a few boxes for just this occasion.
Yep 338 win mag is definitely a ghost the last few years
hell it's hard to find ammunition for my 30-30 lever action I try to buy the Hornady ballistic tip 160
Stock up when you get a chance. Bought ammo 20 years ago for my turdy-turdy
Trying to find 243 is a pain
the local gun shop near me has that type coming out their ass. The reason they have a lot of it in stock is ruger's former CEO loves to shop there and he has a lot of pull when it comes to the ammo manufacturers.
Factory ammo for 45-70 is usually loaded light anyway. If you going to have 45-70 probably good to plan on doing hand loads.
I found lots of ammo for my recently purchased 45/70. About $60.00 a box.
So yes the 45-70 cartridge was hard to find for a while, but I have to disagree for the most part with this. Every (local) gun shop or store near me has had federal 45-70 boxes in stock for seemingly the past four years at least…. There are a few other options usually in this round at the store but, federal is never lacking. While traveling and going to different stores they have had it as well. So I’m not sure how to say it but I don’t think I would ever have a problem finding ammo for my 45-70…..
Ace Hardware now sells ammo. Scored 10 boxes of Federal 30-30 for $23/box 2 weeks ago.
Given how long .45-70 has been around, you'd think thered be more ammo laying around
Get a Browning BLR and use any kind of ammo chambered in that chamber size. They even make a take down scout version.
I know it doesn't help a lot but it does help someone it's a great way to get into reloading your brass
I prefer to collect the oddball calibers, it's just one of the preferences. I'll pay the extra for ammo and search until I can aquire all the reloading components. Then it gets fun. Thats a sweet looking lever
Reloading is your friend. Can't hardly wear out a 45-70 case.
The worst thing about the marlin 1895 is trying to find one actually in stock outside of gunbroker where the prices are over inflated.
Same DANG problem with the Savage 17 caliber super mags!!🤬
We have the flavors of 45-70 at Coyote Creek outfitters in NH. Federal fusion, grizzly hard Cast and mono flex hornady all running about $60 a box give or take.
My local Walmart has 45/70 I see em there every time I go get bait
I have a handful of . Vintage 444 marlin ammo boxes not reloads will post them soon
If you can afford one of these currently, ammo prices shouldn’t be a huge concern.
It's a shame because this marlin rifle in 45-70 is an outstanding package!
I work at Academy in GA. We get it at least once a month and it's only 40 ish bucks a box. It's it's Winchester deer season X it's not even bad rounds.
Same for 300 blackout absolutely insane.
I have always bought guns with common, easy to find ammo. They are also easier to sell if you decide to
When considering to purchase a rifle or any firearm for that matter, the ammo it uses will greatly influence my purchase. Because I don’t want some obscure or out of fashion per se ammo that I can never find.
Walmart Winchester 300 grain jacketed hollow point for 49.99
I live in Wasilla Alaska and 45-70 ammo is easy to find, cost between $40 - $70 a box.
100$ for a box?
That sounds genuinely criminal
true.....or ANY lever gun cartridge for that matter. 30-30 is nearly impossible to find and even brass to reload it is frustratingly hard to come by. the only lever gun that you can usually find ammo for is in 45-70....but its gotten too expensive to have a range day with it unless you're reloading the brass
The worst thing is they aren't making 30/30 and have not started to introduce the 308 Marlin Special.
If they made this exact marlin in 357 or 44, I’d buy it immediately. I want another toy, don’t need another anti-tank weapon