BEING BLACK IN GERMANY 🇩🇪
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- BEING BLACK IN GERMANY 🇩🇪
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So I thought it would be interesting to share some of my experiences and focus on some things which happen/happened to me here in Germany as a black woman. Please also note, I do love living in Germany! I made the decision to move here for a reason, and if I could do it again I would 💕
This video is a bit short but I do hope I answered some of your questions.
DISCLAIMER This video is representing all of MY experiences! I also want to make it clear that I really do still love Germany despite some of the sad incidents I have faced. There is a reason I moved here in the first place. Living here has provided me with so many opportunities and given me great adventures which I will treasure for the rest of my life. I have met really amazing people and also really nasty ones. But like ANYWHERE in the world this stuff happens.
I will be making a '5 Reasons Why I Love Germany Video' soon!
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I want to make it clear that I really do still love Germany despite some of the sad incidents I have faced. There is a reason I moved here in the first place. Living here has provided me with so many opportunities and given me great adventures which I will treasure for the rest of my life. I have met really amazing people and also really nasty ones. But like ANYWHERE in the world this stuff happens. I would love to hear all of your experiences below as we are a community, but please do not leave anything derogatory towards Germany or German people. I have not blamed the country for the incidents that I encountered and neither should you.
As long as you stay prepared for any abuse which might come your way in the future
who doesn't like were he or she lives, as long as you lives and work there, you will always pray for the land, but the truth of the matter is that being a black in Germany is like being a human without a shelter, you can imagine telling the guy that was asking you were you come from, that you are from Africa or from Nigeria were I came from, even though I wasn't a refugee here in Germany, baby that guy would have stand up or stop talking to you diplomatically, I know you are trying to cover some facts from your observations, but the worst racism you can ever experience life is Haven't wanted in a country yes they laugh with you and then deal with you in any little opportune they have, I have lived here for 10 year's with a son even though am not with the mother anymore, but I think i have gotten a little experience of their behaviours towards black people more special the black Africans, even in the place of work they can even joined with Arabs or more fairer people that is not from black race against you, 90% of black people in Germany are being diplomatically slaves in their hands, even with the once they bored here as German citizens, are not founding it easy with their way of life's , their discrimination and segregation is so exuberant here in Germany, for example you can never see a black police man or woman, it has been only recorded only 2 black in all of Germany. You hardly see a black person in a top position, if they manage to get there, they will diplomatically removed that person there, so for you to live here in Germany you must be tolerant and ignorant. That is my observation. Thanks?
@Nomzy Samuel, You are right ignor is the best answer and you explain clearly I never tired to tell them where I came from and that I always proud of my self, I didn't choose to born in Africa but I always proud that am a child of God 🙏and I don't have a time for their thoughts.
My sister no 1 you are the most beautiful girl that they have ever seen in their life and they wonder how can this most beautiful girl come to their country that is jealous
No 2 most of them that those this stupid things they have never travel in their entire life so their sense of humor is till way back
It happens to me too
But my sister be proud because you are beautiful mor experienced you are gifte with many beautiful things am really proud of you of coming out to speak of what blacks are going through thank you.
Zoie-Marie being black here is depressing.... really depressing!
Yes, they were staring because your Black, But Mostly because you are BEAUTIFUL!!! That’s the main reason.
HF Martin People will stare you more since you’re mixing “you’re” and “your”.
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Ditto
Mimosa Sheldon Yes and people will stare at you as well since you forgot to add “at” in your sentence.
HF Martin yesss
Sometimes u sit in the tram/train/bus and nobody wants to have a seat next to u. It used to get to me back in the days but right now it gives more space for my handbag 🤷🏽♀️
I agree. We all blacks living here in germany, experience it every day.
It's really sad :/ We are human just like everybody else but like you said 🤷🏽♀️ more space for our purses.
N Foy I experience this everyday
Sooo sad because I think they are very educated but with civilization I don’t think they have it
N Foy Very true broo
same here . lol
Everything you experienced in Germany for being black is everything I experience in the US for being Asian. Much solidarity! We don’t need to convince anybody Who we are, where we are from, and whether or not we belong.
Exactly.
@TravelerPat In solidarity, I wouldn’t scan for differences between Asian v Black. Rather, the separation is more so White v Colored. That’s the basis of US history that’s been corrected over the years. Do you examine your personal feelings about black people as well? Is it possible the energy you present with gives off distrusting vibes, which attracts it in return? My experience comes from living in a predominantly Asian community to predominantly White during the pandemic. I definitely got stares and heard many stories of Xenophobia. Respectfully, I wouldn’t say your experience speaks for the collective at all. And I wouldn’t discount my experience because yours is different. Again, speaking from someone who lived in the luxury of predominantly Asian first to predominantly white, and being cognizant of what US states have glaringly more racism.
To address your experience more specifically about the US embassy, the more love I give, the more I have received. When I have looked a human being in the eyes, relaxed my shoulders, and talk to them with care, I feel seen and so do they. There is no need to give or receive hostility that doesn’t serve us.
Exactly, say that again!
As person with diverse background or being mixed I've experienced those type of questions of 'what are you'? Where you're from? Can I touch your hair? Some of them touch my hair without asking. I know some are just curious but some them purposely try ask those questions to start something for no reason.
I have to say that Germans are often asking your heritage because they are genuinely curious about other countries, and not to be nosy or disrespectful- they literally find no problem about asking! I am Italian with light skin and hair, and when they find out I'm not German they ask the very precise city I was born in Italy, if it was in the north or in the south, how is the weather there and so on (even my dentist asked every detail). It's just a matter of chatting and curiosity
I'm German and this made me cringe hard multiple times 😖
Thanks for sharing and sorry for some of our more stupid fellow citizens 🙄
Mhh
Ich verstehe nicht was du jetzt meinst in der Welt
Wo wir leben
I live in the states and I believe what you are saying right now
Is bull shit
Hey there!! I need to hear from you again! I'm planning to go to Germany soon for studies and I'm so scared ! I'm scared I'll never get used to the life style there. Please come back! I'd love to talk to you for reassurance!
I live in Germany too... if staring was a competition, surely Germans would win the world cup! Now that said, I have met some really nice people here... Jerks too, jerks are everywhere on the face of the earth.
people think staring is rude because they are raised and taught that way. I know because I have lived in many countries. it's not even staring , it's looking. there ain't no many blacks that's why. this happens in any country with very few black folks. in Africa too they do the same to white people. mostly kids because they are honest. adults just steal glances because its rude according to their culture to look at someone straight in the face. right segawa?
Well, I can understand that you must be feeling pretty uncomfortable. Otherwise, I'd say every human's attention is drawn by something new or not that common. I am sure I'd be also looked at if I was somewhere in Middle/ Southern Africa for having white skin.
@@kulsanders I think staring can mean a lot of things, what you have stated being only one of the many. while one may look at another out of admiration, to another it may be hatred thereof, but of course we would never find out as it all boils down to what is in that particular persons mind!
I have been stared at, and i have done some staring too, what usually makes it better once you are caught is at least smile, wave or say hello to the person you are staring at so he/she doesn't interpret it in a bad way
@@mclametta9873 I actually no longer feel uncomfortable! I don't even notice anymore stares! ...and yah, you would surely be stared at and sometimes called by a strange name by some kid.
@@Ssegawa you are right. in my experience, like I said I have lived in majority white countries and I felt like a piece of art in a museum. in most cases it takes just 30 minutes drive out of the city. once almost the whole neighborhood came out to see a black man. some touched my skin. you are right about the stares that can kill but really I find those aren't many. sometimes I would have fun with them ; go ahead and touch me, ask away don't be afraid, do you remember when you used to bully me in school? lol
The story with the black pen reminded me of a story, when I was a child. I live in a very small town in germany and when I was 4 I met some black kids, for the first time and I told my mom about this kids I played with, that looked a little different. And she sayd: Oh, so they were black. And I just stared at her and was like: NO. They aren't black. its brown. Then she told me, that I was white and I loked at my skin in total confusion :D I really thought my mom didn't understand colors.
And ur correct, she doesn’t understand colors 😭 I’m a brown woman and ur a tan woman. I feel like people just say black and white bc they’re just so used to it.
That’s what I do. I just say I’m brown
@@Madamzae Being black is more of an identity that carries many things with it reducing it to just skin color is dismissing its history.
@@sugarkiane6861 sorry I get where ur trying to come from but I will not identify myself as something as simple as a color. Especially because the meaning of the color “black” isn’t something I represent in myself and I don’t think my ancestors represent that too. There’s more to it but that’s too long of a conversation.
I don’t see anything wrong with saying black and white, that’s just what it’s usually called and people should easily have enough experience to know it doesn’t perfectly reflect reality. It’s quite funny hearing how it confuses a child though.
I often ask people where they are from. Most of the times I put it as "being interested" in their culture - rural/urban, Bavarian/Berlin, Religion, or their ethnicity. At some point, a girl said to me, that it is quite rude to ask someone that and I didn't understand her - she was from Vienna (and black) and I previously asked her if she was from Vienna (because of her accent). I am interested in languages and cultures, but I know that I am also using stupid excuses. Putting it in perspective because she was part of the black minority and I am not I hit some nerve, because she is being asked that a lot (by people like me) and I was never asked that, so I didn't know that it would make people feel like they don't belong. This is a very long post. I enjoyed your video a lot, because videos like these help us understand each other so that I will not get caught in the same situation, when I "simply" try to start a conversation.
They should accept your answer.
But still it is uncomfortable that people who you don’t know start asking those kind of questions, like they are kind of reserved to friends so they are kinds private for whenever you feel you can tell them. I’m from South America and here like the US, those questions are considered rude. And that also makes me think how Germans on one hand they don’t make friends easy and also at the same time they make you private questions?, I think is odd.
@@claudiacarrera8463 in Germany people constantly ask me how old I am and if I'm going to have children, so yeah, some people really have troubles with private boarders.
However, I don't see anything bad when people ask where I'm from, of course they can hear my accent, so why not to ask? There are so many migrants in Germany now, those who came comparatively recently, so it connects people, they have common experience.There is no single German in the house where I live, and we all know about it, it would be weird if we were avoiding some reasonable talks about our homelands.
In the small towns in the southern part of Germany, people just asked us: "Where do you come from?" And we are white Germans..
This Comment made me laugh😭😭😭
Yes. Ot happens a lot everywhere on Germsny. We aak everybody because we are interested in people
@@natsudragnir6678 Why? This is what we ask everyone. I always want to know xehere everybody is from. It is part of our culture ww are wven interested in which neighbourhood of a big German City you grew up. It is a parr of smalltalk
@@verapapp-bongartz8799 Well, I have heard for decades that if you just look a little foreign to Germans, the 2 questions they would ask are: where are you from, and how long are you staying? These questions do not necessarily sound like they are just interested in people. I respect the fact that some Germans may be irritated by too many refugees. They have the right to complain, I suppose. However, Germans seem to be generally more blunt and rude than they need to be,
@rom buga did you watch till the end !?!? SHE WAS ATTACKED YOU MORON !!!!
I am also a black girl here in Germany and some of your experiences are so similar to mine so i can relate. Most things are easy to ignore but I've never had anyone get physical with me , I'm sorry you had that experience.
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@@ministerlouisfarrakhan7112 ... the F** is this comment???
If you move to the ghetto expect a fight.
@@rahksayeed4837 Yeah the slums in Delhi India is sooo ghetto. I agree
Not Ike ur ghetto it's a war zone
I'm really, really sorry for what happened to you on that bus! Please remember that these kind of people aren't the majority in our country, they're sometimes just louder than all of the rest of us who are decent human beings! But the rest of us is working on that (:
I know I'm a little late to this, but what you said reminds me of how I feel about where I live. I'm in the U.S. and I feel exactly the same about our "loud minority" that the majority of us Americans feel really embarrassed about. Our loud minority is why many of us in the U.S. understand why much of the world hates us :(
Why are you sorry? And how do you know they are not the majority? This type of sentiment lives in most families. And will be displayed at birthday parties within their own homes and or inner circle gatherings of friends. And yes some get embarrassed but won't actually say or do anything.
@@pableauxwr138You’re right just cause many aren’t vocal about their racist habits doesn’t mean it’s a small amount that are racist and most of them just try to make up excuses for those that are racist
Hey there I'm so happy to hear that. I'm actually planning on going to Germany for studies too. And I'm so scared . Please I'd like to hear from you again for reassurance
A lot of this really makes me wonder just how hard it is not to say things to a person of colour that you wouldn’t say to a white person. Most of these just seem to come from ignorance and a lack of self awareness.
One time, (I'm British with African heritage BTW), I was hitch hiking in Europe, and the Minister of Bavaria gave me a lift to Brussels. I've had the best experience in Germany. They are super super cool. (very random but true story). Me and my friends got a lift from an insect scientist from Hamburg to Berlin. He then said he was going Poland horse riding, and let us stay in his very posh appartment (whilst he went horse riding in Poland). WOWWW. This was my German experience (mind you, this was 2008).
I love Germany. I took German for 5 years in high school and college and when I studied abroad in 2016, me and one of my White classmates decided to sort of backpack across Europe after our study abroad program ended. We went to Berlin because I’d always wanted to go. Our original AirBNB cancelled last minute so we were stuck on the U-Bahn in Berlin with our large study abroad suitcases. We got off at a random stop while we were trying to find a new place to rent. This little, old German lady saw us and struck up a conversation. My friend couldn’t speak German and the lady couldn’t or wouldn’t speak English so it was just me (21 year old Black American woman) and her talking in German for 40 minutes until we found new housing. She was so sweet. Later on, I realized she was keeping us company because we were not in the best part of Berlin and we had our suitcases and were clearly lost. Our new Air BnB hosts were really cool as well.
Do you remember the minister's name? It would have been either Günther Beckstein (he resigned as minister-president in '08) or Horst Seehofer (took over in late '08). They normally don't drive but have chauffeurs though.
@@tylerbhumphries Old people often don't speak English here. Of my grandparents, only one of my grandmas can speak English. She was a French and History teacher, and still goes to an English book group/circle where they talk about English books they read. Until a few years ago, she also went to an Italian book group, but it got too much for her. I'm just realising that she can at least to a degree speak 5 languages (including some Latin). Her husband was forced to study Russian at school for 5 years (he grew up in the GDR), but he pushed it all out of his brain, so he only knows German plus a few very basic words of English. My other grandma is half Swedish and her German husband learnt Swedish, and they have spent their whole retirement in Sweden, so they speak two languages, but no English (maybe a few words, but not more).
That is cool👍😊
When you say insect scientist, was it an insect who was a scientist or a scientist that studied insects. Please clarify.
It's normal for people to be very curious about people they aren't used to seeing, they're like little children. They don't mean anything by it. That's why it's good to be accepting so they can be taught :)
Oh Alteori. Keep up the good vids. Been watching you lately and I’ve been addicted
it's still rude.
There is a lot of truth about that. We are look at anyone physically exceptional: tall, beautiful, muscular, what have you. But as an adult you learn not to gawk, because it is rude to stare. My parents are from Germany, and I think I do stare more than the average American--I probably got it from them. I remember staring at a guy in Buenos Aires on the street. I'm not gay, but he was so gorgeous that I couldn't help myself--he was just that exceptional. He caught me and smirked. I think he knew why I was staring and was used to it.😏
No it's not normal. If the Germans don't have basic social skills, then they are obliged to develop them, like you know... every normal grown person! In south European countries for example people don't stare and are not rude to people of colour. Even if someone is racist, he will not express in any way in the public like that.
@@lamptrollbourandas3867 When I went to China years ago, I was stared at all the time: I was the only white person around--I was out of the ordinary. It is normal behaviour. Little children were especially bold: sometimes they'd point. At first, I found it amusing--even flattering (stupid, I know, aren't I special🙄)--but I grew tired of it when a small crowd watched me eat at a window seat in a restaurant. I thought, "So this is the celebrity life? It sucks." But if you look dramatically different for whatever reason than most of the people around you, people are going to look. It's just human nature, and you can resent it, or ride with it. I know my experience with various handicapped people has taught me not to do it myself.
I learned it from videos like this that you’re not supposed to ask African American people about their heritage as a lot of information is lost due to slavery and trauma connected with that. It is a sensitive topic and not a small talk topic like in Europe!
It has nothing to do with it being a sensitive topic because of some lost history. It has to do with people thinking you can’t be American just because you are black. They are black Americans, Period!!!
They were born in America and most of them, their great grand parents were born in America.
And I’m not American by the way, I’m African from South Africa 🇿🇦
@Kristina Zoë Hi. I’m glad you watch videos about other’s experiences, and are learning about different sensitivities. The world needs more people willing to learn about other peoples experiences so we can have a more empathetic world.
Yes, there is lost information and also trauma for black Americans, and yes, I agree it’s not a small talk topic… that said, if we are discussing the content creator’s video, as she stated, she’s American- that’s her nationality. Her race is clearly black, and her ethnicity is Jamaican American, as she mentioned. Her point isn’t that she is uncomfortable about speaking of her ethnicity… she actually knows her parents are from Jamaica… however, as Jamaica was a slave route, does she know beyond that? Idk, but she knows that her parents likely chose to move here. What’s weird is that, though people can see she is black, and can safely assume her heritage is from somewhere in or near Africa, they are still asking where she is from, as if the answer “American” isn’t enough. So one has to wonder what the interest is to know behind that. She was born in America - her answer is enough. You can see she is black, so you can deduce a reasonable answer to the underlying question is Africa or adjacent. What else needs to be known and why? I don’t think white Americans are asked this question and expected to provide migratory information about their ethnic background. It’s just weird that because America isn’t seen as a black county but Jamaica is (though it’s not a black only country nor is it a country that was historically African) that America, as an answer, is still challenged.
And I am a black American whose mother is from Jamaica! Just so we are clear.
Most black people know their ancestry, but it's annoying for someone to ask where you are from, your family etc.. because 3 generations were born in America. Also, not all people of color are decedents of slaves.
@@hft4704she was actually asked her ethnicity when we ask where is someone from we mean ETHNIC background not nationality (USA)
Everything she said is true, I have already been in Munich, Germany for 5 years, and I can confirm everything
These are the challenges of living abroad. It will never end.
I think dem correct, your Jamaican living or born in US,them know never Black in Europe or America you must be from some where in Africa or Carribean, where your parents from, your roots ,is where you belong ,not just I'm form America.
Yes U right
Well, what would life be without it challenges and leaving comfort zones?
@@markmangaya4947 .... Totally wrong. She may have Jamacian ancestors, but if she is born and raised in the USA then she is American and nothing else.
@@markmangaya4947 Bullshit. I mean then you can say she is actually from Africa instead of Jamaica. She is from New York which means she is American. And she is pretty ;-)
I'm American, my parents are American, my grandparents are American, my great grandparents are American and my great-great-grandparents are American, yet people always question my nationality when I travel abroad. It's so insulting to think that a pretty black woman can't JUST be American.
Karyn Camille sometimes it’s just too much
You are African American dear
Karyn Camille they obviously are unaware of the beautiful women from New Orleans....
All white american root are from Europäischen Country all over. People dont know that
awwwwwww thank you soo much for kinds words.i love it thank you and happy Ester to you all
In Germany we currently see some rise of racism for various reasons. But let me assure you that a lot (!) of people do their best to fight racism the best they can.
You're totally right about that...
People are creating racism when they think they are fighting racism. What do I mean by this? When we consistently emphasize our differences we tend to glamorize one group of people while instinctively insulting or downplaying the other group of people. An example of this is white people who go on and on about how beautiful black skin is and how they wish they had darker skin. When a young white person hears this it’s hurtful and eventually this starts to create resentment and racism. It’s also insulting to the black person you’re saying this to you because you are objectifying them.
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Schmutz AfD
Do these "a lot people" also fight racism against whites in Germany?
I never realized we stare, but we actually do. I even point fingers at people I have random thoughts about. Nobody seems to be bothered. I am sorry...
I think thats a cultural difference. Many other people think we germans are rude when we mostly are just hones or direct.
Dont feel sorry. As u said the people didnt seem bothered. We germans are used to our own staring, the only ones who arent are people from other cultures. And that is totally normal when u are in a different culture. For us the forced smalltalk smiling of americans could be seen as aufdringlich or dishonest.
Should they feel sorry for that? No. This is the difference of culture and that is okay
😢im from germany ... and everytime when i hear about the ignorant comments im sooooo ashamed and sad
That was one of the things I was concerned about potentially moving to Germany, was racism but I guess it can't get no worst than in America. 🤷🏾♀️
IT can!
Germany is less facist then the US and North Germany the lowest racism. East Germany has the highest rasiscm
You definitely won’t get shot by the police cause your black in Germany
@@camouflage6873 exactly...
@Joel Rodriguez Because school is free or cheaper, healthcare is better, and we never wanted to be in America anyway 🤷🏾♀️
Can’t wait to tell them I’m American and so are my parents, grandparents and great grandparents…
I am so happy you made this video, also you are drop dead gorgeous!
Thank you!
I´m sorry to hear about what happened to you on that bus! In the name of all decent germans, I would like to apoligize! Looking at you though, is something different. You are an amzing beauty! I wouldn´t be able to take my eyes off of you for a minute! And I lived in Florida until I was 13 years old. You said, you live in Southern Germany. Well, I did too at first. (Near Nürnberg) There are a lot of tiny towns down there. And sometimes, you´ll come across some of those crazy racists. As long as they just jack their jaws, ignore them. They´re stupid as F***! You are, for the majority of germans most certainly welcome here! And I personnaly would llike to wish you only the best during your stay here. No matter how long you wish to be a member of this community!
Thank you so much for your comment! You have beautiful country here 💕
@@ZoieMarie And we have another beautiful person here, making it a little bit more beautiful! Thank you!
Alan Barr well said!
@@alanbarr9327 I like Germans because of the machineries you guys build,I'm Nigerian. I know there is a bitterness about the sudden influx of illegal unskilled immigrants into Europe especially from Africa and the Mideast.
@Zoie-Marie you look beautiful.
@@alphabogeyman7462 It´s true! There are a lot of thwats in this country! But, I can assure you, the majority of the population have nothing in common with them!
Yes girl I feel you 🤦🏾♀️ I’ve lived in Italy so I’ve gone through the same things and wheew 🥴 issa struggle. Also YES something similar happened to me relating to the accent. Almost a year ago, I was at work (I live in the uk now) and the staff were treating me terribly, like full on bullying. Because I used to be shy I didn’t speak much so I just accepted the abuse and kept it pushing which probably led them to believe I didn’t speak English lol. Then when one lady heard me speak she asked if I was American and INSTANTLY switched up. 🙄 everyone became nice to me and it was really annoying because it was so obvious smh
Thank's for sharing your experience! It's just terrible how you were treated :/
😭😭 yeah but thankfully i don’t have to experience it everyday
Only Olu you could always come to the uk 🙏🕊✌
If you have never been keep quite your a joke
Beloved, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them,in prayers,i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with a motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (GOD'STIME MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help them call the MD in charge of the orphanage to get their details on (WhatsApp or call them now on +2348053145438) tell him I sent an you. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you./....................,.................,....,...............................................................
You are the epitome of class and style. Thank you so much for making this content with such decorum, yet so unfiltered and unapologetic. This gives so much support and resource to BIPOC folx and especially young BIPOC women like me. I dream of traveling the world, but often face so much anxiety/fear because of the stage that America's love affair with racism and xenophobia has and continues to set. Much love and safety to you and all whom wish to travel and exist in peace.💛
I here myself and my other black people say I don't go were lm not wanted. Its sad we got to say this. Or sad when we think it because we go through it.
Im German and i have to admit i find my self often look ore stare longer at ppl with a dark skin color.
The main reason , for me , is the color it self and the beauty in it.
The facination of dark skin color is the fact that it reflects the sky so strong. The light blue tint on your face is so beautyful.
Have a nice day :)
I think she understands that the staring doesn’t necessarily come from a negative place and that it’s often out of curiosity or even admiration. But nonetheless it is rude to stare and I’m sure your parents taught you that just like my (German) parents did.
I don't think African Americans will be able to understand your point of view because there is a high degree of racial hypersensitivity over here. Frankly, due to racism.
@@KushaDwipa yeah to be completely honest...
I think the “Where are you from? No, where are you really from? Where are your parents from?” Thing is a European thing. Back in 2016 I studied abroad in Switzerland but I travel to 7 other countries while I was in Europe and experienced it a lot unless I was with my White American classmates. There was an Irish guy in his early 30s that was hitting on me and when we got to the part of “where are you from” and he started digging, I just gently let him know I don’t know where my family’s “really” from because of slavery. I’ve been able to trace my family back to the slavery trading ports we were brought through but I don’t know where we’re really from (I know now, my brother and I took a 23andMe test during quarantine). And when I told him that he felt so bad for asking. He wasn’t taught much about American slavery or how it severed our ties to Africa. A lot of Black people who are currently living in places like England have recently (2 to 3 generations) immigrated to the country so they still have ties to their ancestral lands. Although I think people should stop digging for answers. If I say I’m an American, I’m an American. Just like if someone asked them, they’ll reply with whatever country they were born in.
True, I like to ask where are people from, too. I‘m not racist but extremly curious about peoples origin.
I often google the countries and talk about them with the person, if i see them next time.
But i hope i‘m not rude or something with these questions.
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It's a European thing indeed. However, even though I'm Dutch, I get asked the question by Black folks every once in a while too. Generally after having had a conversation for some time already. And it will go like: "You don't look 100% Dutch. Where is your family from?" They're right! It doesn't offend me at all and I'll explain to them why I'm slightly darker than average Dutch although still very obviously European :D
I myself will not ask in return if this person is obviously from the Caribbean or the US as there is a 99% chance that they do not know his exact roots. If this person speaks an African accent, I will ask and they'll generally gladly answer and tell all about their country.
I do hope that you were able to forgive that Irishman though. I suppose Irish history lessons are mostly used for the period from 1165 to 1921 when the English occupied Ireland and the local population was treated mostly like dirt. Not all European countries were colonial powers.
@@blokkadeleider this "where are you really from"-thing is really ennoying even for me as a white german because what the f*** does it matter? They see your skin is dark, so it's obvious that your genetic origin is somewhere else than in Germany but no one asks a person with Spanisch origin where they come from. And racism...I can only advise you not to go window cleaning with a bunch of men of colour in a German authority and nicely say "hello" and "bye" when entering and leaving the room because clerks will pick on you after you have left the room. Just experienced this two weeks ago and told my colleagues to shut up because those guys were working harder for less money than they so... 🙄
It is because you have to work on this side of yourself (that you are an african from roots, but was born in the US after the slavery took place). He was just curious about you so asked you . I think it is mere and naive curiosity, like a child would ask because he just wants to know more about you. The fact that you didn't take it pretty well is because you felt unease, unwell about it. It reminds you that your roots are not in the US but somewhere else, and this raised some bitterness or anger within you. Unwellness always roots from our innerself. That's why I think it is important for people to work on their origin history. Of course you are an american but so many other americans are not from America (how many did migrate from Europe too at the begginning of this country?). They could answer the same as you, (my grand grand parents are from Italy, Ireland.. or anywhere else). There is no shame to say where our parents' roots are from, I rather consider it like a honor everyone should be pride of. I think when we have reflected deeply on our origins and family history we somehow release of some part of our innerself insecurity. Well, your parents were illtreated and taken to slavery, because of dominant abusive colonists. It isn't always the weak that are the weakest. There is nothing to be ashamed of.
There are actually so many black people in Germany, especially in Southern Germany. The 'where are you from' question is so common all over Europe. Usually Germans will think that a lot of black Americans are native Africans although there are, once again, so many Afro-Germans, famous Afro-Germans and regular civilians as well.
And what exactly is wrong with native Africans?
John Cole ask again they refused to except this but fact!
Yeah it's the same in France. It's a multicuaral country and there are many black people. Many black people are born here and some even have parents and grand parents who were born here. It's weird that my kids will be asked "where are you really from ?" when they will be third generation French...
Don't get me wrong, I am proud of my heritage and who I am. But I know that what they are really asking is "how Can you be black and live in France ?"🥴
Yeah but after explaining that my family has been in America for 300 years should stop the questions but it never does💀
@@leila_de_hautjardin wow is is really like that i france? I thought bwcause of the French colonies, black people are way more common and normal in france, than for example in germany
I feel so sorry, for what you experienced in Germany. I hope you had some good experiences as well.
Hi, i think its great that you tell about your experience. In the past i must admit i was very racist and negative about blacks, muslims and all kind of things. But now i realized that hate comes from self-hate. People who hate often feel alone, insecure or have all kind of problems. They are angry at others because they are angry at a special situation. But we all are people, no matter what kind of skin we have.
We should all respect each other, treat each other nicely, no matter where we come from.
„Alle Menschen werden Brüder“.
Das hast du schön gesagt.es freut mich für dich, wenn du an dir wachsen konntest. : )
You are making excuses for racism. An angry person would be angry with anyone and specific anger against certain communities is just deplorable and cannot be justified through anything not self hate
It is not just, only an explanation. Specific anger originates from normal anger that builds up inside you. Believe me, hate comes from insecurity, it always does.
The only thing we as humans can do is to stand together and look behind our differences. All humans are equal and deserve the same respect.
@@janmunchs4293 I totally agree that specific anger generates from normal anger but when the targets of those pent up emotions are specific communities, that's when it becomes problematic
Of course its problematic. Racism is one of our biggest problems in humanity.
The people which hate need our help too. We should not anwser their hate with hate but to open their eyes like my eyes were opened.
We are humans. We all deserve respect and friendliness.
Now they have to understand that coronavirus knows no colour or race
😂😂 that is actually true
Haha
Hahahahahahaha
Absolutely right
Yeah it knows No color... But at some point it respects the thicker color hahaha
I am in Germany for almost six months and I know they are nosy as hell. Its not that your alien. They even stare at everything for sure. Its very uncomfortable if you come from another culture. I am black and from Kenya, Africa. It shouldn't be offensive that people think you are from Africa and not from America or elsewhere. Africa is beautiful and the quality of life is amazing despite what the media tries to portray. I moved here for some reasons but planning to relocate back to my country finally. That said let's enjoy our current experiences and thanks for sharing your experiences.
Yes sis it seems like she's offended because Germans think shes from africa ans there's nothing wrong with that. There's hot girls in africa too.
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Sweetheart i Think she is offended with how deep they want to know ... not because they think she is ftom Africa.
Coz for me they ask .were are you from ..when i say Africa , they ask where in Africa then i say UGANDA and they don't know where it is. So the next is oh where is it located ... it's some times too much
so if the quality of life is that amazing, why are there so many refuges?
@@dantronics1682 Yes those who move here as refugees are not doctors and lawyers. This is just Germany way of attracting cheap labour for their industries, demand vs supply of labour. People like me who immigrated for personal reasons but with bachelors and masters degree, have such a hard time here and its constantly feels like a set back. If you earn a third of your salary here in Germany in Africa you are better off staying there. Truth be told even German looks like they are struggling between high salaries and very high cost of living and taxes. Not talking of the shitty weather. Anyway visit Africa and you will understand what I mean.
You have so much class. I really respect your outlook and your approach.
Hi Zoie-Marie, I like your video. You come across as a very likeable and nice (and pretty) person. Moreover your video comes across as balanced, honest and trying to be fair. As I find the topic to be important, please allow me to post a longer comment. I am German and lived one year in the US (as a student). I am politically interested, and sometimes I discussed "racism in the US" with fellow students, some of which happened to be black. Not a single one of them said there wasn't a problem, however there was no agreement regarding degree. Anyway, after my return to Germany, I wondered how a black person (who grew up here or has a cultural western background) would perceive Germany. Thank you for this video, because this gives me one answer to this. Still, there are some things, that I would like to comment on: 1) Staring: Probably more a cultural thing: Germans tend to stare longer, than Americans. Personally, if I don't consciously restrain myself, I tend to stare longer at people, that are unusual (can be unusually pretty, ugly, tall, short, interesting, disabled...). So, as you are pretty and have black skin (and blacks are a small minority), chances are I also would "stare" at you. Is this racism? Probably partially so, but not negatively connotated. 2) "where are you from? ...is probably a legitimate question. But I have to admit I was also annoyed after a while by Americans always asking me the same questions at the first encounter, as if they had to tick off a list in order categorize me. More often than not, the first of these questions was "where are you from?". However, in your case I find it a bit strange, that "from New York" was not taken by some as a sufficient answer. 3) Skin-tan comparison: Correct: Most Germans would like to have a darker tan. Why? Well, Germans love to travel, and most Germans do get a darker tan during their summer vacation. So, having a nice, dark sun-tan is associated with the nicest time of the year, with summer, sun and having fun. Whereas cheesy skin is associated with the opposite (being nerdy, being stressed and not having the right work-life balance,...). 4) Safety: Germany is probably safer on average, than the US (statistics seem to indicate that as well), probably also for blacks. 5) Racism in Germany? This is an important one, because it changes over time. Unfortunately, I have to say, that Germany has probably become more racist over the last 5 years. Would probably take too much space to discuss the reasons for this, though...
did y'all see SZA's cover in the background
When I saw it I was like oh my sis is fed up with Germany!
Its like they really want you to be from Africa.😂😂
Well all black people originated from Africa. You might be born somewhere else, grew up in onother culture but that's what mainly most white people see. Brown skin African roots.
Josephina Simwa what about the Tamils from india, Sri Lanka, they are black people but they have never been in Africa, so you can’t say all the black people are from Africa 🤓
And there's nothing wrong with being from Africa. There are super beautiful girls in South Africa that look just like Americans
@@kendalljones5130 there is absolutely nothing wrong with being from Africa.am from your neighbouring country Namibia
You are right. There are some Germans who resent black Americans, especially men. Try going to a German club with a black American male.
Thank you very much for telling your story.
I'm really scared of these right people here, after our history and all the effort to get rid of this kind of mentality, it's still there (and in some kind everywhere in the world) and it makes me sad.
Greetings from Germany, I hope you're doing fine. 💙
I HATE how people in the comments are trying to downplay your experience. There is racism everywhere. Why are they trying so hard to downplay. And yea I’ve been to Germany and had the same experience some were negative and some positive. But don’t tell me oh it normal. 🙄
I get asked “no where are you from originally” too when i travel to Europe. Its because people associate Americans with white. I am 100% Black American. Then i say “you know like Beyoncé” and they are like “oh yeah! Yeah!”
That’s sad considering true Americans are the indigenous, not whites. I’d reckon Black Americans are more American that white ones since they literally built this country.
That’s super stupid. None of them know who Tupac or Obama are?😂
I experienced something very similar and intense while teaching in China. People would also invade your space with ACTUALLY POINTING at you and talking about you. I was often confused for African. Interestingly enough, when I talked to some and shared I was American... they were more friendly.
The people at the school I taught were very friendly but initially reserved with me. After my first week of eating meals at the school they treated me more warmly. I learned I was the first Black teacher and the only special educator they had. In the past, the teachers who came from my university were ...well stuck up and aloof. So I was shown respect once they saw that I gave respect and I was culturally responsive.
Thanks for sharing your experience! I've heard similar from other friends who have visited China.
People shouldn't be downplaying any of your experience. It should just serve as clear signals to everyone to do better - even if they would not behave so ignorantly themselves, they can teach their close ones how to behave respectfully. As a non American, non black but living in America for 5 years, I felt like some of your experiences were very shocking and I would have stood up for any of my black friends here in America if that had happened to them. This is the age of science. If they want to know how you got your genes, they should ask, "how did you get your genes?" rather than "where are you from?"
Girl I feel u...my dad is Jamaican and my mom was German I lovingly describe myself as Jamerman, and come from a small village in Franconia and constantly people want to ask where I'm from and in the same breath tell me "no, that's not where you're from, I mean really where are you from?"
...but there are also few things more satisfying than the facial expressions I get when I answer them in the deepest and most traditional Bavarian and franconian dialect I can muster "well since you seemto know and not like my answer, how about you tell me."
And don't get me started on the "can I touch your hair" faction.
Thank's for the clear words. It makes me sad to hear these insights, but i hope the good experiences in Germany outweigh the bad ones.
I am German and I am ashamed of myself for my countrymen. I'm sorry you had to have such an experience.😥😥😥😥😥
Thanks I appreciate your comment
You're such a sweet heart 💓 thanks for being the one to apologize, only if WE could do this ALL over the world GOD would be sooo proud 🙏 thanks,bless your heart 😉
Your country people are the most wicked people on earth.....they hate
Black people for no reason ( Hasse ohne grund)
@@luckyritz345
Please explain further. Who do you mean by 'country people'?
@Lucky Ritz Then educate yourself. Visit different places, countries...
I'm german and though I've experienced some unpleasant situations and after visiting Israel I think I was born in exactly the right country.
thank you for getting to the point and staying on topic 👌🏽🙏🏽🙌🏽
I never clicked so fast , I saw you’re beauty and I was like “ I need to see this “
Hi Zoie-Marie. I just discovered your channel. I am also an American New Yorker. I'm a black man. I lived all over Europe and I had the experiences that you had in France and in Czech Republic. In France, everyone wanted to know where I was really from (as if descendants of slaves had any idea). And in Czech Republic, I think I must have been the only black person living in the entire country at that time. A few times, the Czech people asked if they could feel the texture of my hair; I let them. Anyway, I agree with you that Germans and other Europeans mean well even if their inexperience with us makes it a bit awkward. By the way, I thought about moving to Germany too but then the wave of immigrants went there and I saw the resistance by the German people so I decided to stay in NYC. Now with the proliferation of Covid-19, I am not wanting to be here in this epicenter but I do love NYC/home. I wish you well. You are indeed gorgeous. God bless.
Sorry that you didn't feel safe enough to come to Germany :( It's probably true that we Germans are too judgemental, especially after the refugee crisis. Refugees often come from countries that don't have the same standards when it comes to women's rights, so if I think someone might be a refugee, I feel a bit "unsettled" about what they might think about me. Of course, there are also a lot of great refugees that respect women and Germans that don't respect us (I personally know quite a few of them; the sexism is still strong, even in western countries...). I don't care where people are from, as long as they're trying to be a part of our society (also by learning German; a lot of Americans move to Germany without bothering to learn German, which is very rude imo), and treating other people (especially women, since I'm one) well.
One of my longest friends is half black (she's a half Gambian, half Polish woman who was adopted by white Germans at birth), and she had very few experiences with racism. She did have them unfortunately, but really not many according to what she told me when I asked her about it. We grew up in a more wealthy area near Frankfurt am Main (her parents are quite affluent), so I suppose the area where you live matters. Had she grown up in East Germany, her experiences might be different.
I really hope that you will reconsider visiting Germany after the covid pandemic! According to what I heard (also from other US American channels of black people going to Germany) it's on average better for black people here than in the US (apart from the staring apparently), but everyone's experiences will be different of course.
Sorry for that Feeling about Germany :( in 2015 there was so much refugees, Most people scared of all the black man "who lost her id Card". Sylvester in Cologne didnt do it better. there was a lot of sexual assault there
People think all the refugees come to Austria and germany because of the Money the get.
Some people really say refugees steal working places... my mind: If a refugee can steal you a working place i would think about it 🤣🤣
But Germany is Safe, and Open for immigrants :) the "where you really from" question is mostly interesting. Some people ask me that too 😅 i dont know why. Maybe i dont have blonde hair 🤔
Since cov-19 i dont want to stay here. there have been so many mistakes on the part of the government. Rules that don't make sense, children being scapegoated, people suddenly being devalued for their opinions. A wrong word about vaccination or covid and best friends fight.
But If you want to move to Germany, you're Welcome 😀
Would not recommend to come here unless you bring a lot of money.
I live in the same part of Germany (I’m just a white dude) and they stare at me too, don’t look away when I look at them. I guess it’s just a thing... doesn’t mean they judge or anything that’s just what they do :)
Yep. Germans will incessantly look at other people and not feel bad about it.
It's really a social difference between the USA where (especially in NYC) people avoid eye contact with strangers and Germany where looking at people is the norm.
If they think you look unusual they'll just stare at you the entire bus ride and try to decide where you may be from, what your job may be etc.
It's not malice or hostility; usually it's just mild curiosity, or even happenstance if someone looks your way but thinks about something completely different.
@@MrHodoAstartes yeah in america, a somewhat focused stare will mean they find you hot.
Lol yes at me too and I am white but curvy/fat 😂🤷♀️
Especially if you look back you have to lock eyes... Its like a contest who wins😂
I act funny but this gave me social anxiety.
If my business were not in Stuttgart and if I could move it I would run as fast as I can!!
My fellow germans are not pleasant and on top its so hard to make german friends
Free and proud men look in each others face in Germany. 100 Years ago, a servant was not allowed to look up to its boss. Now this attitude of fear is gone.
Beside this, such a beautiful girl like you would likely be stared at longer. ( Some boys may even forget to close their mouth in surprise)
I am really surprised, that so many foreigners wonder about the standard starter for a conversation with a unknown person in Germany. It is "where are you from"! It allows deeper talks, than about the whether.
Among Germans it will usually followed by the reply "and where are you from." (Some geographical knowledge on Germany is helpful in this conversations.)
Yann Schweitzer they don’t hold their arms to yours and say “ oh look how dark you are “ or hold a black top to a pen and say “ same colour”.
as a german myself, i noticed that people stare at another people very often, and so do i, but i stare at them because i find them interesting.. i also look away very very quickly when they look at me. most of them don't stare at you because you're black or anything, they just find you interesting or just want to look at you because your pretty or something. 🤍
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Wow, so interesting to hear your story. I'm so surprised people in the street feel they can comment on someone's appearance so openly without knowing them. I like your attitude towards it though, you seem to take it pretty well but also setting boundaries when necessary. 👌❤
Wow! Sorry to hear that. I lived in Schweinfurt and that was one of the best times of my life. The people were very nice and I never experienced any racism. I was in the Army at the time and my Caucasian friend's actually experienced racism for the first time. Germans are proud people and love their heritage. The asking where you're from is innocent. I called one of them white one time, and they got so offended and said " I'm not white, I'm German. I know where I come from" So they actually admire us and our background, our culture, complexion, hair etc.. That guy was just a jerk. Good luck 👍🏽
it's very uncommon to call someone white in germany or other european country. Also "caucasian" for white people is unusual, because it refers to caucasus in georgia (country near russia). it's more common to call them by their country for example "he's french, german, british and so on" :) For me I will always be the vietnamese or chinese in germany.
I think that has to do with Europeans, generally speaking, putting more emphasis on nationality than on ethnicity/race (which seems the opposite to the US. and no, I'm not arguing one is "better" than the other. just that there is a cultural difference).
@@xxxaragon that's the reason, yes.
I mean the big racism problems have kinda long historical roots, and historically it didn't make sense in europe to differentiate depending on skin complexion, i mean let's face it, anyone not "white" was exotic for centuries, you met too few nonwhite people to base prejudices on, they still "needed" someone to call enemy... Therefore they based their hate on nationalities some of it still exists.
Furthermore germany is one of the few nations still existent that use heritage as the primary way to determine citizenship.
@@h.1699 absolutely. I just added this becomes it can be important to acknowledge that difference.
my go-to example is a Daily Show segment in which the host Trevor Noah made the joke of claiming that, after the French national football team won the world cup, "Africa" had won it (because of the amount of players of African descent).
ironically, in France insisting/suggesting that people (of colour) aren't "really French" (or: as French) is actually a right-wing/racist take (and the same is valid for many other European countries as well).
(in contrast, it's *not* a racist take in the US)
Wow, I've never met someone proud to be german, like its nice and we are definitely privileged, yes, but nobody who has any kind of pride that doesn't have to do with football.
Its 35 years since I move to Germany from Jamaica and let me tell every One you name it I face it Germany
(1) I went to well known Disco on a Wednesday Night and it was great teaching Germanys how to Dance I went back to the same Disco and the same bouncer told me its for numbers only,
(2) I was looking for a new Apartment the weekend news paper has a lot, so I Call up the numbers speaking my best German the Lady in the phone the Terms I agree to look at the Apartment
I went to the address and rang the door bell and she saw me explain to her und she said no no no the it was a mistake the Apartment is rented.
I decide to prove the point and ask my German Girlfriend to call and the same Lady said the Apartment is free.
Stop whining dude. You just need to accept and move on if you’re not wanted.
@@skillfuldabest yes, he just needs to accept racist germans and live with it. What kind of mentality is this?
@@philipe1502 Stoicism?
@@Tlberias so you are comparing racism to accepting negative emotions? Quite a big difference between them
@@philipe1502 I answered your question, i dont compare anything.
I'm moving over there and I'm glad you made this video bc its been on my mind but I'm excited to move but mentally preparing for those one of situations
I'm so sorry that you had to experience these things. I live in Austria and it's very similar here, it's so sad!
So sad to hear about these bad experiences you've made, especially the guy on the bus... Jeez! Makes me quite ashamed.
Thanks for not projecting this to everyone and for keeping your positive outlook! May you have many more happy years in Germany :)
My nephew was born in Germany and he is actually living there now, he moved back sometime last year. He loves it there and was always going back every now and then. Btw, he is half African American and half Puerto Rican. All American, lol. You guys would look so good together.
Match making move of the year!!!!!!!! lol
Also i live here in Germany since 2017 i love this country
Hi Zoie. I just found your channel. I love it. I so admire you. I wish I had your courage. I am a 60 year old, African American, living in Texas. I lived in Germany when I was young. My father was in the military. I totally understand the staring thing. Especially in the 70s!! Enjoy it!!! Live your life girl!! You are beautiful!! I'm so sorry you went thru some of the ignorant things you are experiencing. I am surprised it's still going on.
There is racism everywhere! As a black Frenchman, I encountered it in London, in Bologna Italy, in Madrid and even in my hometown, Paris. Although it"s not a majority of people, you need to watch your back anywhere you travel. Thanks for the video though. Very interesting.
In London???
Really?
@@lovelybitofbugle219 Twice in 12 years, which is close to nothing. But it shows it can happen even in the most open-minded and mixed cities!
@@Edouard02 I'm surprised. And disappointed to be honest. I suppose nowhere is perfect...
Don't get me wrong London has tons of other problems lol
@@lovelybitofbugle219 lot of tension in London. Overpopulation, pollution & poverty leads to drama.
@@liammeech3702 oh i dont know mate, i seen a video the other day of someone walking through London and it looked amazing.
Hi Zoie-Marie!
The starring reminds me of the states in the 60's and 70's and sometimes more recent.
It shows that they are so sheltered and segregated from other races especially blacks.
When anyone of a given race are not exposed to other races even in the work place they lack the exposure to other races and stereotypes and ignorance will prevail.
Take care!
Jen T. I lived the experience in the USA. After many years I moved. Surround yourself in love, love yourself, and run like hell when you feel intimidated. Tschüss bis zum nächsten Mal
@Sleipner 33
I don't get your drift regarding ignorance and superiority being displayed? Come again.
So true it's always about choices.
As the saying goes if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen.
"where are you from" has maybe an other reason then you think of. Germans "distinguish" people not by skin colour, but by nationality/culture. Since we experience immigrant groups mostly by nation/culture. We seperate curds from turks from syrians... I'am a bit surprised that people continue asking you, when you are saying USA.
Maybe she was asked by a boomer or elderly person.
Sadly i'm kinda sure they just want to have their prejudices confirmed and if they ask long enough you'll say something that will do just that.
The ones who really are interested in where "you" come from, don't differentiate if it's NY or Nürnberg or idk Nigeria (just to use a country beginning with "n", was the first that came to mind).
Well the USA may not be considered a proper country for that purpose.
It's just curiosity. At least most the time.
@@norbertfleck812 after explaining that my family has been in America for 300 years i feel like the questioning should end but it never does💀 "yeah but YOU aren't American, where are YOU from??" Lol um what?
Thank you for being such a great ambassador for Germany and german people. And yes, many of german people are not yet used to see, to interfere with people of different colors. Travelling around the globe is not the same as experiencing people of color in your home country. Please give us time to learn. Young german people can learn in school or on the internet. Older people may behave akward. Be kind, and they'll be kind.
I traveled to Europe a lot and I got the where are you from question a lot. Same, they didn't accept the place I stated as well. They proceeded to ask where's my parents or family background from. And when I said it they were pleased and relaxed a bit as you mentioned 😂 I get it completely
when I was in school the girls would always hold out their arms and compare their colors to see who was more tan. I always hated it because I was always the palest, but I also found this obsession with being tan so stupid. Partially, I think what you experience is a continuation from what they did in school to see who is more tan, but I am also shocked that they don't realize that white girls comparing their tan is not the same as a white girl comparing her tan to a black girl's natural color. This gives me massive second hand embarrassment, I can't even imagine how uncomfortable you must feel when this happens.
Oh yeah, this doesn't bother me too much tbh, but I've heard enough times that I'm lucky to be "tan", when my natural skin colour is brown, like there's a difference. Honestly I don't care about skin colour and in my mind it is something that I don't realize at all because I grew up around many different kinds of people so I think to say that the more "tan" your skin is, the better it is, is something kinda stupid. As long as your skin gets the care and the vitamins they need, I doubt the color makes it prettier
I watched a lotta video from immigrants coming to Germany and a lot of them reported experiencing the staring thing. It doesn't seem to be about skin color it's just a weird German thing they do with everyone.
As a German, I think we don't perceive it as "staring".
Me personally I do it too sometimes and I can think of two reasons:
- I always feel this small urge to just take a look at someone when I see them out of the corner of my eye. I wanna see what they look like or something.
- It's a weird type of acknowledgement of the other person's existence. Like I would say hello if I wasn't weird / if it was socially acceptable in this context but instead I'll just make short eye contact.
I never really noticed this and thought it was just something everyone did before I heard people from other countries talk about it. But now I agree that it's kinda awkward and uncomfortable and I'm trying to suppress that urge to take a look at people
Every experience is right! thanks for sharing yours with us. You always explained it neutral and fair.
I feel a little bit ashamed for what supposed to be still normal for colored people in Germany. Please don’t forget that the majority has nothing negative in mind even if we stare at beautiful woman 😊.
greetings from northern Germany.
I just found your channel and glad I did. I plan on moving myself and my two children to Germany. I grew up there because of my dad (Army) but we lived on a military post so I didn’t experience all of what your going through. I can’t wait to move there but these things sharing are important for me to remember
Yes, I am Jamaican and I married a German. Germans stare, they are not very open to other cultures and thus have a lot of stereotypes about black women. I've been dubbed stupid, among some of the not so nice words of description. just because I'm simply walking on the street. You have to have very thick skin here and much self confidence. A good command of the German language is also very beneficial. I've had 50% good experience and 50% bad experiences. Places like Berlin are marginally better because it's more international. Goodluck.
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Am also living in Germany most of the things she says is absolute right 100% there mentality is just like that hopefully they change their behaviour so the world can be a better place for all of us
I believe you so much my beautiful friend, God bless you for that
make your country a better place for your selves good people instead of wanting to invade other people countries,,
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What about you destroying our countries for the last decades by robbing our resources economy and politics by bribing some idiots/bubbets in order to keep us poor because only in that way you have better life over here. But as time goes on the situation will no doubt about that.
@Steffen Bodar are you telling me that there are no germans living outside Germany?or the germans don't go holidays in other countries be wise and stop the old mentality it takes nothing to be kind to people after all we all going to die one day so let make the world a better place for us to enjoy this planet 🤦♀️👍
@Steffen Bodar like I say most of us are here because we have German husband and they bring us here and we stay because we love our husband but honestly the old German there mentality is not that okay trust me I know what am talking about cause I work with them dont get me wrong most of them are also good but some are just mean 🤦♀️
I can relate a lot to you. I've been a colombian living in Norway for the past 12 years, so I speak the language and everything, but I have also experienced the same staring in small towns. In big cities you don't feel like that much, also I think the comparison of skin tones is more a complement than an insult, the culture in Scandinavia and a dare to include Germans are obsessed with taning because they think is prettier.
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My sister used to compare her skin with mine like that as well. She also put her arm right next to mine and looked whose skin is more tanned. I wouldn't have thought about it being insulting to others so I'm thankful to read your experience
I've heard that Europeans stare at people in general (even at other White people) and wont break eye contact. I have heard this specifically about Sweden and Germany, again, from White people -- I've heard this from Americans, though, so perhaps the Germans and Swedes note the difference there and are intrigued or something.
@Jerusalem It really depends on the location. In smaller communities with a dominating white population, people with dark skin stand out a lot and it's something unusual. So maybe the staring isn't meant to be racist but the brain just tries to process what it sees. Basically the same reaction when you spot a parrot among a flock of pigeons. A mix of confusion and curiosity. I admit, I had that habit too because I grew up in a small town and when I moved to a bigger multicultural city, I needed a lot of time to process that.
Thanks for the video. I appreciate that you are open on this topic and hope that you will see a development to the better.
Girl you’re so awesome! ❤️ Just found your channel here and nice to hear that you live in Germany too ☺️
I was attracted by your photo , you look beautiful
Your look very beautiful.
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I'm Chinese living in Ireland, the Irish used to starting at me on the street too, but that's really long time ago, I don't think they are being racist, more like curiosity. Irish is awesome nice.
I also went to Germany many times, I have many German friends, I have friends from the East, I know many places from the East side still have many racial issues, but to be very fair and honest, some peoples are just ignorant and lack of education, I never experience it in Germany, and I love my German friends, I think you will get ignorant peoples everywhere, even in China, I think we just need to get to know each other, more open mind about other's cultures, we could all be friends, the end of the world, it's not about colour of Ur skins, it's about how you respect the others 😊
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Hi Zoie-Marie, i am german and realy want to say i am sorry that such things happened to you! I feel ashamed for man who pushed you and hope that you will never ever feel uncomfortable in germany
You and all other bpoc's are more than welcome :)
You go sister! Good to hear your story.
My mouth was 😯 when you said someone put a black pen to your skin. Smh
I lived in Nuremberg while at University then in Frankfurt and Heidelberg after I got married, a total of 10 years. A lot changed after REUNIFICATION (East Germany + West Germany= Germany). Under communism, East Germany was considered tolerant ( a word I hate) toward all races. East Germany citizens had trouble adjusting to a free society where one is responsible for oneself. It was quite an adjustment and they turned their frustrations on the Gast Albeiters--who actually were brought in to rebuild Germany after WWII. Now the refugees are the enemy--taking away their jobs, etc. But that is a common cry in the Western world. If someone has no job it is because a black/brown person took their job. Even if it is the kind they would never touch. I spoke fluent German and I had no trouble embarrassing them.
I really love your video! It really makes me nostalgic! The only difference for me was the staring thing. I'm Hispanic and there are times that I can be a high yellow or I could be a slight coffee colour or I could be extremely dark with a red undertone or sometimes a yellow undertone and people would stare at me a lot but then I also had friends that were white and they would get stared at as well and for me at least in my experience it was more of a cultural thing that they're staring at someone that they know isn't German and they're kind of trying to figure you out or just because you're a stranger and they don't know you. I think that was kind of the thing with my white friends was that even though they might have been the same complexion, they were still strangers and at least again in our experience they were kind of coming across more like sizing them up and trying to figure them out. Another thing that I wanted to say, was that I'm so sorry that you had that bad experience but I am so grateful that you didn't judge the whole country because of what happened! I think it's awful that people are like that no matter where you go! I had a little bit of that happening when I was there back in the nineties and there was a lot of fighting between the Turks and the Germans and then also I was there around the time that the Berlin wall came down and then we had a lot of issues with Eastern and the Western ones and there were times that I would get mistaken for being Turkish and you know almost Was treated poorly because of it.
I’m also black German but now I see that I adapted the habits of staring from Germany😂
U got germanized ^^
As an Australian I gotta agree with all the points raised. Also when i was in Germany and people would ask me where I was from and I would say Australia they would say "but you are black". Where are you really from? and i kept saying Australia. They looked at me as if i had a few roos loose in the top paddock or i am just plain dumb 🙄🙄As if Australia belongs to white people and not black people. The same question of "where are you really from" was never given to my white Australian friends mind you smh.
I also experienced some racist shit when i lived in Germany. One incident i was racially profiled at the Berlin airport when I was coming from italy. The airport people weaved through so many people just to come up to me while i was at baggage claim and pulled me aside. All the other white people got to go. Funnily enough It wasn't like I was coming from Australia I was already within the schengen area. So it baffled me how gungho they were. They also did not believe my story that I was Australian and working for big shot German company and because I didn't know where I had last put my passport as i was already in Germany they thought I was lying. People were also looking cause my German was also bad and me trying to explain myself was an absolute mess. The look on their faces it was like the cat that got the cream. Like they caught me red handed. Changed real fast after I showed them my passport. And literally took forever checking my visa and face etc. Like for real . I freaking missed my flixbus because of that shit.
The other racist shit I went through what puzzled me is that it happened in public e.g train station and the bystanders just stared and didn't help or even try to dissolve the situation.
So sorry about your experiences! I've had a few as well at the airport and its just so so sad :(
So basically there is racism in Germany as well
When you misunderstood normal check with racism🤣🤣🤣
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Like in all other 194 countries of the world, too.
Why Germany should be an exception?
They were just curious were your ancestors came originally from, coz we Germans are prone to liking differenct cultures. You might want to get a bit more sensible with the German cultures, as we are pretty much forced to do with all others.
My German mother and grandmother had great stories about the first memorable times they saw a black person. In short, there just weren't and still aren't many black people there. I've heard stories about black Americans going to visit Africa and having local kids point them out as Americans, which strikes them as oddly ironic. I've been to China and had tons of people stare at me: it was odd and slowly became unpleasant--like when a small crowd watched me eat at a McDonalds. I didn't think of what it would be like traveling as a black person, but I did think of how awful it would be to be a celebrity.
Still aren't? Might wanna check your eye balls.
@@bjornna7767 it is estimated, that there are ca. 800.000 black people in Germany, wich is a little less than 1% of the whole population of 83.000.000 . So i would say the black community in Germany is not that big.
@@l.a.3292 Thanks to Bärbock, Scholz and co., the Leftist movements as such, it's gonna go up quickly.
First, thank you for staying objective and for letting emotions out of the discussion, yet, one question: How many kids do white Germans have on average, how many Blacks from Afrika and certain other cultures have? Add to the equation that we have many old Germans, still growing in number, prone to dying in days or a few years, while young Germans get even less kids than the generations before. In my equation it doesn't need 15 years that we talk about 5-10 % Blacks and more than 60/70% foreign people or folks with migrational background in Germany. I'd say, we even talk about less than 10 years here for this development to happen, also considering that we still open up for regugees in general. Another factor, which just starts to increase, is the number of German folks who emmigrate to another country.
I'm black and get stared at more by other black people than any other color. And yes I have lived throughout Europe.
I'm German and hearing this is a shame.
Reactions hugely depend on where you are. The southern parts are more rural and often more conservative and many people there don't see much foreigners. In larger cities, especially with universities, it's quite normal to see a lot of different people from different countries.
Don't worry, the staring is normal here. Many foreigners find it strange or think they did something wrong or that we stare BECAUSE they are foreigners, but it has no evil intention. We stare at everybody. Even other Germans. And normally, from what I know, people don't define your origin by race or similar, at least where I live. They just ask where you are from because they are curious and many people stop there and don't ask further or if they do, they do it carefully and polite. Mostly they just want to talk with you about your home or ask stuff that they might think are stereotypes.
And what these people did because of your skin is just stupid. I've never seen someone doing that, so I guess it's the 1 in 1000 who is an idiot.
Sentences like "Go back to your country" are often heard in more conservative parts, from the older generation or from people who fear to become foreigners in our own country or lose their job due to migrants etc. This is not the general opinion though.
Yeah but the "no, no, where are you really from?", Question becomes very excessive and annoying. Often when a black person is born and raised in the US, they have no idea about the country their parents grew up in, the are American, full fucking stop. I think it's extremely rude to ask anyone even white people something like this if a white person said that they're Nigerian for example. I also heard of a beautiful girl in Germany who was born and raised here, she was black, often she was told that her German is extremely good. There isn't any bad intentions but those comments stem from ignorance and Germany, being the heart of Europe with a lot of diversity or "multi Kukti", should work on ridding itself from this kind of ignorance
I think you are too polite, I lived in the outskirts of Hamburg sometime back and I agree with you about their staring habit. Now, in the south it must be worse, starring at someone is plain rude and stupid, its even worse when the person compares their skin color to yours pretending to be innocent about it, there's nothing funny about that. I'm surprised you didn't mention their curiosity with the African hair! Its racist because they have seen people of black skin color in their country over the years, but they continue to act curious as if they live in their own planet. In this day and age, starring at people is just unacceptable, I bet they wouldn't want the same to be done to them.
Rukiya Mwatela I agree with you, if we keep acting polite and don’t correct any rude racist comment anytime it happens, they won’t learn. If I get starred at in an uncomfortable way, I simply look up and ask them “what?” They immediately look away. And certainly won’t let anyone hold my hand next to theirs to compare. Even my white friends have been well schooled on what comment is acceptable to say to a black person. It’s the year 2020, we are no longer an exhibition in an art gallery to satisfy anyone’s curiosity.
Hmm they remind of the chinese, they act just like the same
Dude yeah its weird, like half of their national footbal squad is either from ghana or turkey.
now staring has turned into racism ? U think maybe their culture and communication methods are different than yours ?
@@Petergonzalezcomedy no, it's racism. People with racism experience know the difference. So shut up.
It's like old people seeing dyed hair they can't help but stare because they're curious 💀💀💀
Yes yes yes. I have pink hair for like 3 months and i got sooo much attention. Some people stare but thats okay i stare too when i am curious about something. But most attention were compliments. So many compliments
I am blonde with blue eyes and light coloured skin. I have been to countries like Haiti or Egypt and even in Asian countries where my looks certainly attracted A LOT of attention. Fortunately it was mostly positive but it does get uncomfortable from time to time. I am sorry you had such a negative experience on the bus. Sadly, there are ignorant and hateful people everywhere. A German colleague of mine is married to a New Yorker ( I grew up in New York). She is of Korean descent. They have told stories of discrimination they have experienced in Germany simply because of her Asian looks.
Growing up in and around New York I experienced some bad situations, especially when I was in school, wehre people called me a Nazi and other things just because I was originally from Germany. Interestingly, my best friends from school and high school (still friends today) are all from international backgrounds (Portuguese / Brazilian, Korean, Chilean, Italian).
I am glad you like it in Germany and glad to hear the views and experiences form a fellow New Yorker. I am looking forward to seeing more of your videos.
*colored NOT coloured
Depends on the country. For example, in the UK it is coloured.@@thomasmerlin4990
Thank you for the kind words you said about Germany albeit the difficult situations you have been in.
You are so gorgeous! Thanks for sharing your experience to us!
You are so welcome!
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I’m thinking of going to uni in Germany and wanted a black woman’s POV. Thank you so much I’m a bit less hesitant now😊 much love from Brooklyn💛💛💛
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Sorry that you had to experience this. Seems to be a certain part of any population that are like this. It's sad - but most people are completely opposite, so I have faith. Thanks for sharing this and your other videos :)
Thank you for sharing your experiences. I hear you and validate your feelings.
I am Dutch and I regnognize putting arms together to see who is darker. But I will never do that with strangers. It is a kind of competition to see who is darker because people like to have a dark skin.
I have noticed this trend among many white people in the United States in Europe who seem to want to have a darker skin tone as if they hate themselves. This seems to be just another form of racism reflected back at yourself. What will it take for people to realize that we are all beautiful and we should stop trying to be a different person or a different race than what we are?
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But for them don’t matter what you saying blacks just want to blame whites in racism, they see racists in every white person but it’s all their own bullshit, she still wants to live in Germany so there’s must be better and less racists than in USA
@@7troyfreund As long I remember a tanned skin is always concidered as beautiful where I live.The definition race was never coming in my mind when we were comparing skin color after a day to the beach or after holiday.
@@igorua178 I only know from a friend who visits the USA regulary because her daughter is married to a black man that the police is never stopping the car when she is with her white daughter in the car and it happens already a few times when she was with her black son in law in the car. Also her grandchildren love to be here in the Netherlands because all the children play together and they told my friend that in the USA it is different. So I can imagine that if you regulary face racism that you can become overalert on that.
In other videos from expats, everyone is talking about the staring, despite their skin colour. I guess we are staring at everyone. Seems like a cultural thing.
Eben zur Gold Romans erscheine für Germanic stare.
As a native german I must just say you are just one Word written with b . Beautyfull
Some of your experiences are just soo sad. I pray your experience in Germany only gets better.
I Totally Agree with HF Martin.
He was just more eloquent in expressing his thoughts.
If I were on the street or in a restaurant and Zoie-Marie walk by, I would be Staring too but Respectfully and it would have nothing to do with race. She's not only Beautiful she has a Sweet Spirit about Her!
Be Safe & God Bless!
Lived in Ireland had no hassles until I wore the Wallabies Jersey. They love their Rugby and Pints
You explained (these experiences) so well. Thank you for sharing! 💕 More people should be aware of these things and hopefully some of those people change their negative mindsets and behaviors. All countries have their good and bad, as you pretty much said. 🇩🇪🇺🇸
The patience it must take... I can't imagine. You are a kind person.