PINEIDER LA GRANDE BELLEZZA

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  • @elborracho81
    @elborracho81 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The Pineider quill nib was designed by Dante Delvecchio, in an interview he states that nib does not flex for line variation but to provide more ink flow, which is great for shading inks. It is a unique writing experience and I always have it inked up. A must have if you love shading inks IMHO.

    • @fountainpentherapy
      @fountainpentherapy  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thanks for the info, I did not know that! I see what he means. Its in the soft nib category. Stay tuned I am working on a detailed comparison of several soft nibs which includes the Quill nib. It will be part of my 4 part series on Nibs.

    • @1968gadgetyo
      @1968gadgetyo หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think it was with Youst Appelbloom. I think DVD gave him the pen.

    • @elborracho81
      @elborracho81 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@1968gadgetyo I remember watching several videos with Dante around the same time I was buying the pen, and they were all interesting. Dante is quite the character and you can tell he really loves his work. All of them worth a watch here on TH-cam.

  • @faniro4792
    @faniro4792 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This video is like a dream ! Great, great, great!

  • @mikeh9701
    @mikeh9701 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Vincenzo- Great review; thank you! Enjoy this beautiful pen!

  • @vicentegregorio6476
    @vicentegregorio6476 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you! You made me buy it. I had been thinking about Pineider for a while, you sold me. Got it in F at $280.

  • @wendyetherington7493
    @wendyetherington7493 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for a great review, Vincenzo! I bought a Pineider Avatar at a great price from Atlas this year. It also came in that beautiful stationery box with paper and envelopes. The band has a silhouette of Florence that’s so stunning. My fine steel nib is very smooth. So glad I added this brand to my collection. True Italian craftsmanship!

  • @fernandochinarro4676
    @fernandochinarro4676 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Muchas gracias

  • @JefferyHall-ct2tr
    @JefferyHall-ct2tr หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Vincenzo! Thanks for showing us this nice pen! It's interesting that the softest nibs tend to be the gold ones, but it's really no surprise, as that metal is softer than steel. I would say that the quill nib would be wonderful for someone who likes a flexier nib. If not, some of the other gold nibs will do nicely. Some of the vintage gold nibs aren't as soft, and some are quite like nails, but most of the newer ones, particularly Pelikan and Montblanc are quite soft. An interesting subject! Can't wait for your series on nibs!

    • @fountainpentherapy
      @fountainpentherapy  หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s an interesting subject INDEED STAY TUNED i AM WORKING ON IT.

  • @kevinlandon7578
    @kevinlandon7578 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    what a shock! another great Italian fountain pen!! Must stop watching these videos that encourage me to search for more grail pens!! Thank you, Vincenzo. The softest nib compared to my Pelikan M1000 is my Pilot Custom Urushi.

    • @fountainpentherapy
      @fountainpentherapy  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There you go, now you have put in my head tat Urushi again. I trust you are talking about the big one and not the 845. Let me know.

    • @kevinlandon7578
      @kevinlandon7578 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fountainpentherapy , yes the big Pilot Custom Urushi, Vinceno. It has 2 colors black or vermmillion.. It is an amazing ppen. Good hunting.

    • @elborracho81
      @elborracho81 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@kevinlandon7578 They recently released a third color option, which is a dark navy blue with gold trim! I want one so bad!

    • @kevinlandon7578
      @kevinlandon7578 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@elborracho81 , that sounds like a fantastic option. no wonder you want one.

  • @gihanzohdy3284
    @gihanzohdy3284 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tempted to get one for myself! By the way the Scribo Verde Mediterraneo is a foavourite of mine, permanently on my desk, the bottle is the most beautiful ever, a gem in itself. You're right about the colour, it is a teal that heads towards green, a beautiful greenish teal that shows its best with a broad nib.

    • @fountainpentherapy
      @fountainpentherapy  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good choice! I should get all their inks.

  • @davidottman9501
    @davidottman9501 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for your thoughts on this interesting pen!
    I was fortunate enough to find an LGB Rocco with a steel nib on clearance at an online vendor. The pen and nib are both wonderful, but it's a far cry from that quill nib. Dang, yet another grail to chase... 😅

  • @LVA22-y1m
    @LVA22-y1m หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love my Pineider Quill 'F' nib, it's an Avatar Deluxe model, so it may be the same nib as you're showing here? Prefer the cartridge/converters as well. Outstanding daily pen for me! (Love your Santini, hope to get one sometime.). Cheers!

    • @davidalexander-watts6630
      @davidalexander-watts6630 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The Santini is on my list too - I saw one at the London Pen Show last weekend and it was stunning.

    • @fountainpentherapy
      @fountainpentherapy  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm glad you love that pen, I'm hoping to get my hands on an Avatar one day! with the Fine quill nib as opposed to the medium.

    • @LVA22-y1m
      @LVA22-y1m หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fountainpentherapy Actually, I should add that I originally bought the Medium, but sent it to Mark Bacas to transform into a Fine--he of course did a beautiful job, and it's perfect!

  • @brianlenz244
    @brianlenz244 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Vincenzo. Such a beautiful pen! But I'm cautious with the brand. I bought a Peneider La Grande Bellezza - Rocco Black with Black Trim with a medium steel nib earlier this year but the nib dries out within a couple of days. Frustrating. I think the problem is with the cap. My Peneider Tempi Moderni, however, is one of my favorite pens and writes wonderfully even if left alone for one or two months. Cheers!

    • @fountainpentherapy
      @fountainpentherapy  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank goodness that I’m not having that problem with my PINEIDER every time I pick it up it writes as if I just inked it

  • @davidalexander-watts6630
    @davidalexander-watts6630 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interesting, I've been looking forward to your review. I have one, the Arco Firefox model, which is just stunning. Like you I found it for a great price (£270), with a broad nib and love it. It's different from yours, though still a La Grande Bellazza, as mine is a piston filler, with an ink window and it looks to be a longer section in black. I spoke with the Pineider people at the London Pen Show last week and they have some lovely pens, but the list price just feels too rich to be honest. Get one for this price and they're an absolute bargain - and just as lovely to write with as you say.

    • @fountainpentherapy
      @fountainpentherapy  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Part of the fun is to hunt for the deal. I have been hunting it for a while and finally found it.

  • @FountainPenNews
    @FountainPenNews หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ciao Vincenzo! I ended up getting a pineider arco in Blue Bee recently with a Quill Nib and I love it!
    I'm doing a series that I call "Flexplorations" on my channel. This Pineider will be up soon!
    You might also be interested in my next Flexploration which will compare the pilot #10 and #15 FA nibs.

    • @fountainpentherapy
      @fountainpentherapy  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@FountainPenNews that comparison really interest me because I’m a little disappointed with the pilot number 15 FA nib that everybody raves about. It’s a far cry from the Pineider or the Scribo and I’m hoping that the number 10 is much better.

    • @FountainPenNews
      @FountainPenNews หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@fountainpentherapy it really depends on what you're looking for, but I would say the 10 is more flexible than the 15 which seems counterintuitive. Hopefully I'll get up my comparison in the next couple of days.

    • @UneFontaineDePlumes
      @UneFontaineDePlumes หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@fountainpentherapy oh quill, 15 FA, and 10 FA are very different from each other.
      The only ultra flex of the 3 is the 10 FA. Using it as an EDC is not really possible, this is a pure flex. Use pilot ink with this one, like Asa-gao. I’ve the 10FA with pilot feed, and also with an ebonite feed triple slit: it changes a lot the behaviour.
      The quill nib is mainly an EDC pen which request muscle to really flex. The line variation is low. This nib is the farest from ultra flex among the 3. Very comfy nib as edc.
      The 15 FA is an EDC but with some nice flex capabilities (which request a bit of strenght). Line variation is good, but far from the 10 FA.
      These points explain the different feeling you can have when writing. None is better or worst. They are just different 😊
      The scribo is another story because it tends to throw a looot of ink on the paper. Its nib flex vs strenght is again pretty different from others. It has been tuned to work as an EDC and it can be used like this, but any additional small strenght will flex it very fast. Variation can be big. If you use a pilot ink like Asa gao, no more fine line, it becomes very smooth and writes like a medium nib. Use dryer ink tends to create finer lines. Flex capabilities are very close to the 10FA. At the end, again a different behaviour.
      But I stop here, I’m too talkative ... 🤣

    • @fountainpentherapy
      @fountainpentherapy  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      will be receiving the FA10 tomorrow and I will be doing a comparative video. But i must disagree with regard to the quill nib, it requires very little effort to flex when I compare it to the pilot FA15. we will see how it compares with the FA10. it would be great to one day meet somewhere in Europe at a pen show and do all these comparisons live.

    • @UneFontaineDePlumes
      @UneFontaineDePlumes หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@fountainpentherapythe only way to have the quill nib flexing strongly is to decrease the writting angle. Do you write with a writing angle below 45 ? If not it means there is strong variation in the quill nib flex
      For info the quill has not been designed to be a flex nib. It is lets say a soft nib which increases the ink flow when you push it.
      Then you have almost no line variation, but you emphase the smooth side of the nib. This nib doesn’t provide a good control for flexing because almost no variation.
      When flex comparison, you should compare the line variation vs strenght needed.
      Not only to know if one can flex easilly or not: if you flex but result is poor variation, it has no interest for "flex" variation. It has only an interest for edc if you like soft nib (not stiff). But this is not a flex. This is soft EDC.
      Line variation is the comparison between thinner line when you write and thicker line.
      Thinner lines is when writing: because depending on the nib, it can thicken more or less the fine lines when you have just finished a thick line (a lot of ink and stop! Less ink). Here the springy/bouncy side of the nib can impact.
      - Quill is not a flex nib and almost no line variation (i’ve a Fine). If you want line variation, you need a lot of strenght. But it is bouncy.
      - 15 FA can be a flex nib with excellent control but limited variation vs 10 FA (not ultra flex). Fine line remains really fine, this is its big strenght. Then the variation remains much better than the quill with less strenght (tbh this point is highlighted in many forums and I've also seen the same thing).
      - 10 FA is a pure ultra flex, no strenght needed. Without any doubt the biggest variation. You need to be even more used to this kind of nib to keep the control.

  • @onigarasu
    @onigarasu หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hunted down a damaged pen with this nib for $25 (Grande Bellezza Full Metal Jacket). I have the impression that someone really wanted to destroy this pen. Even the inner unit was broken! The pen was taken apart by force, but I managed to partially repair it and put it back together. This quill nib is really different from all the others and I love it.

    • @fountainpentherapy
      @fountainpentherapy  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What a nice story. The nib is one of my favorites.

  • @teresaharris-travelbybooks5564
    @teresaharris-travelbybooks5564 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That's a beautiful pen, Vincenzo. There's something very pleasing about the rounded shapes of it, and how there are no sharp edges. The design is aesthetically pleasing, in edition to the gorgeous resin. Edit: It's not resin? Enamel finish over brass?

    • @fountainpentherapy
      @fountainpentherapy  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am not sure about enamel over brass. When I look at the interior of the cap and the barrel, its all resin.

  • @FountainPenWorld-z4i
    @FountainPenWorld-z4i หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great FP at a justified, fair price with a fantastic nib. Congrats for that purchase, lucky you. The writing samples intrigued me, though some nib types aren't comparable, if one only want to orientate themself on the absolutely same nib type. But that wasn't the goal of introducing different nibs on different pens. I enjoyed the show.
    And I'm curious about your findings of Pilot FA's #10 and # 15. I'm looking for a decent Flex nib since a few months now, without railroading after just a few flexed letters.
    I know a big part of this problem is a standard plastic feeder instead of a decent ebonite feeder that can handle the higher ink flow requirements, but I don't want to spend extra money on such a feeder. The companies offer flex nibs. They do know about the feeder problem, but many still sell FPs flex nib, but still with a standard feeder. Kind of a joke in my opinion.

    • @fountainpentherapy
      @fountainpentherapy  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for the feedback! It depends if you are looking for a flex for enjoyment or for every day writing. For very day writing at a really cheap price check out Fountain Pen revolution Ultra flex that you can by with an ebonite feed and a bock compatible unit that you can put into nay pen that has a bock unit, like the Asvine v200.

  • @AlejandroPato-Fuego
    @AlejandroPato-Fuego หลายเดือนก่อน

    I took the plunge. Bot the gold ultra flex fpr nib with ebonite feed. 185 usd instead of Chinese gold nib. I will let u know what I think. I have plenty Indian pens to try in.

  • @tommasosantojanni
    @tommasosantojanni หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Partènope, not Partenòpe.
    Partènope was one of the three sirens in Greek mythology, along with Leucosia and Ligeia, who attempted to enchant Odysseus and his sailors with their irresistible singing. When they failed to ensnare him, the sirens, in despair, threw themselves into the sea. According to legend, Partenope's body washed ashore at the site where the city of Naples (which was called Neapolis - _new city_ - in ancient times) would later be founded.
    Partènope’s name eventually became a descriptor for both the city and its citizens. "Partenopei" is still used today to refer to the people of Naples, linking them symbolically to their ancient and mythical roots.
    There were other sirens as Aglafone, Peisinoe, etc that are, at times, recalled, but not all are considered _"canon"_ ...
    You should know, as you're Neapolitan 🙏🏻🙂
    There is a brilliant and interesting story as to why the manufacturer chose that name, it would make a brilliant video by itself 💪🏻😊

    • @fountainpentherapy
      @fountainpentherapy  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am of Neapolitan origin but was whisked away from this beautiful region at a young age and do not have the all historical knowledge that I should have. But trust me I have the passion of that region. Its in my blood. You should hear me sing! LOL

    • @tommasosantojanni
      @tommasosantojanni หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fountainpentherapy apologies. I read my comment and it sounded patronising. Apologies.
      Are you a shower 🚿 singer? I prefer opera, in the shower 😋

  • @AlejandroPato-Fuego
    @AlejandroPato-Fuego หลายเดือนก่อน

    V, I just had an epiphany: we were discussing Chinese gold nibs earlier in the recap, but what about the fpr gold flex nib 10% off rite now I know big deal but that puts the price at a little over 120 usd. Would that be a better option? What if you posted that query to your fpt troops in one of your videos. You did get some good input when u asked about experience with chinese nibs. I have a feeling it could be a better option but what do I know? You got a thimble? I can almost fill it up.

    • @fountainpentherapy
      @fountainpentherapy  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, I know everybody’s talking about the gold version that I read somewhere was not worth the price. There goes that , stay tuned.

  • @robertcalkjr.8325
    @robertcalkjr.8325 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very nice pen, Vincenzo! I have to disagree a little bit with you. My new FPR Jaipur V2 in Mottled Brown Ebonite has the 14K EF Ultra Flex nib with the ebonite feed, and it is a very soft writer. I love it so much I bought another one in Mottled Green Ebonite.

    • @fountainpentherapy
      @fountainpentherapy  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You’re not the only one with this comment. I have read somewhere that the difference simply did not justify the price but I will have to make up my own mind. Stay tuned.

    • @robertcalkjr.8325
      @robertcalkjr.8325 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fountainpentherapy Gold is a softer metal than steel. And gold isn't cheap, but I love gold. I did buy a two-tone steel EF Ultra Flex nib unit to check out, but I haven't yet. I'm going to wait until I've used the gold nibs for quite a while so I'll be able to feel the difference of the steel better.

  • @lenorebreen3394
    @lenorebreen3394 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think you said the TR journal was from Namiki and I think it is from Nanimi

    • @fountainpentherapy
      @fountainpentherapy  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lenorebreen3394 it’s actually Nanami Paper. My mistake:

  • @paulmchugh1430
    @paulmchugh1430 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have the La Grande Belezza as a balloont with the Arco Resin body which is mesmerizing to me. I do have the Quill nib in my Avatar Twin Tank Touchdown.
    Needless to say the Quill nib is fabulous. It is very responsive and a wonderful writing experience. I thoroughly enjoy Pineider pens. If i had the money, i would get the La Grande Bellezza with a steel nib and swap the Quill into it. That is how much i emjoy the writing experience.
    As for Pilot nibs, I have the 743 with a Soft Fine nib. For smoothness and adding character to your writing, it is for me the perfect nib. I don't practice calligraphy so, having a Falcon or a Scribo Flex nib would work for me.
    That said I love the Quill nib. It is certainly worth the money and enjoyment.
    Thank you for the review, Vincenzo.

  • @johnwaterman1579
    @johnwaterman1579 หลายเดือนก่อน

    at 72 yo I have still yet to ever use a fountain pen. My wife bought me a Waterman... and I have no idea why I'm not trying it... Like I feel like I'm going to mess it up.... Such a noobie

    • @fountainpentherapy
      @fountainpentherapy  หลายเดือนก่อน

      72 is a perfect age to try it. Take it out, get some paper and let your imagination take over. You will love it.