The Evolution of My Little Pony | Channel Frederator
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- From a cartoon made to sell toys in the 80s to one of the biggest cartoons on television in the 2010s, My Little Pony has become a cultural phenomenon. So here at Channel Frederator, we take a look at the original 1986 cartoon and compare it to the new My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic series in this Then vs Now.
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We've had so many request for this video and are really happy to bring you Then vs. Now on My Little Pony! What would you like us to compare next? - Jeremy
ChannelFrederator u should totally do Arthur 👍 amazing video by the way!!
ChannelFrederator Do Transformers!
lizzy fandoms yes!!!
Please 107 facts of Randy Cunningham 9th grade ninja is a underrated series from DisneyXD
Sailor Moon and Digimon
"expanded to give him many dragon pals"
*shows a picture of 3 dragons that hate him*
Also there were g1 dragons other than Spike.
Seems legit
Sorry I ruined you're 569
Dakota Stein Lol when I read this he said that 😂
Btw exept Smolder and Ember, all of the dragons hate him because he hangs out with ponies
"Rainbow dash and fluttershy are completely new ponies"
Original rainbow dash: am I a joke to you?
hes talking about the mlp series in 1986, the older rainbow dash was made in earlyish 2000s? not in the same generation as the 1980s ones
I miss minty :(
@@itamochivargas6233 Same she was my favorite too bad they forgot about her ;
Lol
Rainbow Dash and Pinkie Pie were the only characters I was already familiar with when Friendship Is Magic came out.
"Doesnt want to include demonic necromacers"
*Season 9 introduces demonic necromancer.* =T
Firestorm Danger Dash
I mean-
You’re not wrong
You're not wrong-
Lol
We're all grown up so..
@scaredmilk im holding off S9, Rainbow Road special, and the extra stuff in the Friendship is Forever shorts. Until some unknown time.
I only knew about necromancer man from spoilers.
he didn't even mention that there was a rainbow dash, but she had the personality of rarity
Yup
Yup
Yup
and if i'm correct, Rarity was a princess in G3???
@@LuciesCafe I think rainbow dash is in G3
Why is nobody talking about how Trek literally almost stayed the same....
trek? that like shreks brother?
Am I edgy enough, yet? No, Tirek, as in that demonic edgelord that drained all the magic from Equestria to keep for himself.
I'm assuming he means not as scary looking, and it's more humourous
@22Jack Petrovic she made a typo
@@cringe5745 it was typo she meant Tirek
‘Was a cartoon made to sell toys’
Sounds like Hasbro alright.
Lol yeah 😂
Hasbro in a nutshell
Yeah
Hasbro: BUY OUR TOYS!!!
anime: 'Is a cartoon make to sell mangas'
2:27 her cutie mark looks like Twitter
Mary's Tube if Twitter was in the 80's
That is truly.
what Pony is it
copyrights !xaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxa
Thats a rainbow
Did anyone else have the old pony toys?
libby sutton I have a ton!!! I collected them but took a break ^^;
My sister had a whole store-all bin full of them. I hate them!
libby sutton I have :3
I have three even though I don't like 'em :T
i did! and i still have them lol
EXCUSE YOU RAINBOW DASH EXISTED IN THE GEN 3 VERSION
i LOVE your profile picture
Rainbow dash was the 3rd gen 3 pony I ever got, first and second were Pinkie Pie and Kenmono
Gen 1 was the original original, Gen 2-4 are just incarnations. It’s then vs now, not a timeline of the whole franchise
Pinkie Pie was also in gen 3.
Karina Ramirez and so did Pinkie Pie and Scootaloo.
Some fans of the show go too far, but that shouldn't take away from how well-done this show is. It is probably one of the best children's show I've ever seen. And it just always makes me smile.
I liked the darker episodes though, rescue from midnight castle stays my favourite ;)
I watched midnight castle even though I am a gen 4 fan.
The concept was awesome and had an excellent villian. But I thought it needed more time to fulfill it's true potential. For instance, I felt the scene where the human girl first met the ponies happened to quickly and she just accepted the idea of talking ponies too quickly.
That *scared* me
I LIKE YOUR OPINION COMMENT!
Yes! They actually went on real adventures and honestly it wasn't too sugarcoated (something this current generation is used to) plus, the characters did have their own personality, the guy in this video was completely biased.
Delihlah Gaming Really? I didn’t see him as biased. He’s comparing the two, not picking favorites.
I'm a Brony because I was suffering depression. MLP helped me to realise I always have friends who care.
Same
Aww that's so cute ^^
I'm depressed too and it's awful....
I like the because I have Asperger's syndrome and it shows me that it's ok to be different
I like it because it keeps me calm, and it shows me how good a community can be.
Me too
Person: "DON'T YOU SAY IT!"
Me: "Egghead."
Person: *gasp*
I definitely like Friendship is Magic more, and here’s why:
1. Colorful animation
2. Relatable characters
3. Great voice-acting
4. Beautiful storyline
5. Lessons about friendship and more
6. Amazingly orchestrated songs and music
I actually like the early 2000's one more. I think it's just cause it's the ones I played with and watched more. I did however watch some Gen 1 stuff then too. I liked the characters more then. My personal favorites are Lickety-Split and Minty
i prefere gen 3 3,5 and gen 4
I prefer the new one
I like the new one
@Gamer Blox 😐
Wait so you're telling me that the finale's main villain (Grogar) was FROM THE LAST GENERATION?!
yeaah and tirek too. i wonder how shock the veteran brony that recognize the old char is in the new show
Technically i wasnt grogar it was discord the whole time but... okey i'll shut up now
@@Sofi-zh6zk don't do that man. It'll spoil for some
@@Hellothere-bm2fo lol sorry
I want to like this comment but its at 69
Who else still has the older toys? Just me alright! Sounds good if u like
I still Have my 80's MLP Collection and My G3 MLP Collection
Awesomspirit cat21 you’re not a timetravlerrr
I still have my Buttons 💖
I collect them too!!
I recently got an orginal Gusty.
**Shows Princess Twilight Sparkle with no wings**
Can't show wings cuz spoilers. Can show Starlight cuz don't care 'bout spoilers....
Reeeeeeeee
1:00
Mikas The Cutie nicely done
I Love twilight sparkle so MUCH
“Princess Twilight Sparkle” **uses a picture of Pre-Princess Twilight** XD
Outside Of Her Wings
My favorite pony is Princess Luna
Like if you love Princess Luna
best pony is Luna pony :3
I haven't watched MLP for so long. Who is she?
Purinsess Lunna
Ami Sabanta The dark blue alicorn that controls the moon and nighttime, Celestia's sister, and in the first episode ever that turns evil and is dubbed Nightmare Moon
same!
Thanks so much for this video. MLP has a rich history for fans to explore. If you ever get the chance could you do a video comparing the MLP 1986 film to the 2017 movie? Also any chance of doing videos about the villains? Discord is my fave from the current MLP series but there were some interesting villains in the older version that the 1986 film is based off. Anyway thanks again for doing this video. Had a lot of fun watching and thinking about how far this franchise has come.
Why you flavored Discord in mlp? Mlp 2010 are not many best interested villain!
I love both the types of my little pony. The old version is DEFINITELY my childhood, but I love them both.
I only love G4 the older generations are horrible for me
Me to
@@darkyboode3239 Pony life sucks imo
@TMU_inkie12 that was a year ago-
There's G3 too
There was a rainbow dash in the original 1986 version, she just was a land pony. I still say she had the same sort of personality.
She has the same personality as Raity tho. Not the now rainbowdash.
I do know Firefly was the base personality for the current Rainbow Dash.
Are you referring to Sunlight?
@@FirestormDDash The use of rainbow dash and fluttershy as the names and appearances were due to copyright issues over firefly and other.
And pinkie pie was either a unicorn or was she a Pegasus
What's wrong with Starlight Glimmer, she's one of my favourite characters, and has more than redeemed herself now
Shes my favorite character too
I like her as well with sunset
I like starlight too she does have some great moments
😐
I-
I like how the original ponies look more than the new ones
Anybody remember My Little Pony Tales? I loved it as a kid.
I remember that show!
IWasAPepper I unfortunately remember that show. That show was one of the main reasons why I didn’t immediately get into My Little Pony Friendship is Magic because I thought it was going to be the same. But once I found out that Lauren Faust created it and she brought with her a lot of people who worked for Fosters Home for Imaginary Friends and my personal favorite The Powerpuff Girls I gave it a try and I have been watching it since November of 2014.
Yes i got a movie of it also very minty Christmas but it more horrible
Yas😭...my childhood
The hands drawn 80s animation has a magic the modern doesn't. The new one looks great but the 80s hand painted background art got magic to it.
No doesn't have
Man idc if the older version was most people’s fav, it scarred me for life that’s all I gotta say XD
Same-
Me too
It didn't for me it was iconic.
I know there’s people out there who don’t want to admit it...
I’m a Brony
Ayub Dahir grow up
It's actually more telling that he is "grown up" physically and still says such childish things. Were he a child, it would be expected.
ZackAttack, you do you. I'm a 32 year old woman, and my seven year old son, my 33 year old boyfriend, and I all love the show.
Yeah, we banned that guy. No room for assclowns when we have My Little Pony to talk about. - Jeremy
ZackAttackFTW I'm not ashamed of it.
ZackAttackFTW me too
AH finally! I thought everybody forget old My little pony😅
@Galaxy WolfieYT Because you are probably a very young child, so you may not watch it
@GalaxyWolfieYT same
Nope
Grogar is in FiM now, too! Blast from the past, amiright?
Boys watched MLP even back during the 1986 version and it's sequals. My older brother watched it with me and other boys in school also watched in. The 'nightmare fuel' villians made it a cool fantasy show.
Yes, and Lauren did know about that.
@Clare Gundersen
"I agree! The new villains are so underdeveloped and cheesy"
Wow.. I didn't know it is possible to miss point so much 0_0
"Also, the original had the dark tones and painting, creating a more realistic, fantasy-like effect"
I'm not sure you understand words "fantasy" and "realism". Dark as you say "tones" were typical for old style animation. It is not why people like that show as even Yogi Bear could be described that way, and I despise Hannah Barbera. It is because ponies did work with the demon and Spike was originally a minion in they first movie (what shouldn't be surprise as it was made by Marvel). That those things are still relevant after all those years is the reason why people like G4 again, despite modern style of animation.
"while the new ones look like bright, cartoony, happy-go-lucky drawings an 8 year old could make"
Because context is what really is relevant. Show style is typical for modern animation and design was deliberately made to be easy to replicate. Do you think why there is so many fan-art? That is by design.
that is good to know
top comment
Lol there are so many things wrong with this video! First of all, the 1980's ponies were NOT identical, they had compelling personalities which stood out among them, while the toys were molded differently as time went on. Sitting, running, prancing, head up, head down, and many more poses were incorporated into making the toys interesting, which is why MLP was a hit. Also, what's up with all the other MLP gens? Are they simply not good enough to be spoken of in the video? I get that MLP FIM is a great series, but all of the praise that it gets, completely debunking the rest of the franchise seems ridiculous to me! And by the way, Rainbow Dash is a DIRECT INCARNATION of the previous generation pony of the SAME NAME! Fluttershy is also a Generation 3 pony of the same name! Instead of getting an accurate rundown of the MLP series, we got a MLP FIM praise video! Clearly, I am disappointed, since I believe the video is a bit misleading. I just hope that the franchise keeps on growing while new fans still appreciate the classics.
Clare Gundersen Yes! This was very frustrating while watching! He literally called the toys "bulky" and "awkward"... Simply unnecessary.
Clare Gundersen Haha! Wow! I never thought anyone could put that into words! It took me years to get used to the current Gen! I felt very disconnected to it, specially because the ponies lacked realistic equine features, such as hooves, snouts, nostrils, muscles, ears, and overall shape! Their bug eyes remind me more of Power Puff Girls than of actual horses!
"Haha! Wow! I never thought anyone could put that into words! It took me years to get used to the current Gen! I felt very disconnected to it, specially because the ponies lacked realistic equine features, such as hooves, snouts, nostrils, muscles, ears, and overall shape! Their bug eyes remind me more of Power Puff Girls than of actual horses!
> @@googlyeyes4080 Just like did for animated scenes G4 ponies and creatures.
I think there is a difference between the ponies in the toy brand and the G1 TV show. While all the toy ponies may have been individually branded, it seemed that the TV show kept the personalities to a minimum, so it was hard to tell them apart. Whether or not you like the old designs better is fine, it's all subjective, I do find that the characters in FIM are a lot more complex because they're not only given individual backgrounds and stories, but also talents, passions, amibitions, flaws and development. It embraces the original concept of making them feel all like actual characters you can relate to.
Yeah...he literally showed just the VERY FIRST ponies for the "they all had the same pose" line. Right now on my desk, I've got (digs into box at random) a Twice-as-Fancy pony named Merriweather who has her head turned cockily to one side and a kind of snarky expression with one hoof raised, and two twins with their own individual poses and head-tilts despite also being TINY. And those are just the first three examples I pulled out of my old collection.
(The Twice-as-Fancy ponies have their cutie marks _all over_ . Can you even IMAGINE what that would mean in the new show's lore? Everybody would be like AAAA YOU'VE BEEN CURSED! QUICK GET THE ANTIDOTE! )
I don't remember _as much_ personality on the ponies in the oldschool cartoon...but that's not to say I remember NONE. For example, one episode ended with Skyflier for some reason suddenly channeling Mr. Spock. XD (She responded to "And they all rode off into the sunset." with "It is illogical to begin a long journey just as the sun is setting!") This especially cracked me up 'cos I HAD Skyflier, and I'd also given her a headcanon personality, but...mine was completely different! :P
EXCUSE YOU RAINBOW DASH EXISTED IN THE GEN 3 VERSION
THATS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS SAYING
True but she was nothing like what she was back then. Her personality was more like rarity’s and she was a land pony
@@gachaheart2.0 G3 Rainbow Dash is a different pony.
I grew up with the 1980's MLP since we had those on VHS. I will forever associate MLP with the original that I love. FIM is good and more familiar to others my age but the GEN1-3 has got my heart. The scarier episodes are what I'd watch all the time. And I can't even watch horror movies. I don't know, I just really prefer the older MLP.
G3 over 4?
The old version was my EVERYTHING
& it still is for me! Nothing will beat the original 80s
Rachelle McKitty I still own some of the dvds, I will never get over them :(
@@nakynie463 same here. I even have VHS copies.
@@rachelmckitterick I honestly prefer the darker aspect of the original and I also prefer hand drawn animation.
Right? Nostalgia hits like a truck. Especially when I see the scenes he shows and remember watching it
Starlight Glimmer brought an interesting aspect to FiM. Alot of controversy still surrounds her but I like her.
Rainbow Dash isn't a "completely new character".
Rainbow (and pinkie both) may have appeared in later generations but for this video e is comparing the 1st iteration of mlp to the current one.
"Rainbow Dash always dresses in style" th-cam.com/video/9zSHz7Thvbc/w-d-xo.html
I don't always dress in style.
I don't always dress in style.
Sigh...
If so she was based on G1 Firefly and only look like G3 Rainbow Dash.
This same way G4 Twilight was in fact based on G3 Wisteria, when G4 Starlight Glimmer is G1 Twilight.
I remember having a backpack that had the ponies from the original show, good times 😪💖
I had headphones
I love this show so much. Rainbow Dash is my favorite. She can be so adorable sometimes.
blaa6 EVERYONE DO!
yeah
She's adorable all the time
Fluffy Cloud Actually, you are correct.
RD is the worst character in the entire show
Looks like I will be the first to say this video show little to no knowledge about gen1. Yes they had a market to sell toys. I may not have grown up in the 80s but, that does not mean there weren't significant roles that each pony played. They showed a great deal of what friendship is capable of and, that working together despite the odds could work. Not only that Gen3 and 3.5 had various shows and movies to show how lying was bad, to always be responsible and, (no offense to the new show) had a plot that wasn't so obvious that people wouldn't already call out I know what's coming in 5 minutes of the show starting. Sorry I like the new show but, not as much as its older counter parts. Actually in Gen3 Spike shows us a map of the pony kingdoms revealing that Rarity a rare pink unicorn is the princess of the crystal kingdom. I grew up off of each generation and, know each video and, tv show they put out was to teach people how to work together and, take care of one another as friends should. Do some more research before you say it is to dark because, I won't hesitate saying my kid isn't allowed to watch mind numbing television like pickle and peanut, regular show, gumball or and, of the heavily mundane inappropriate shows for children.
I can understand wanting your kids to watch decent and meaningful cartoons, and share your feelings towards Pickle and Peanut and other shows such as the reboot of Teen Titans and Powerpuff Girls, but there are some really great elements to Gumball and Regular Show. The primary demographic of the shows is meant to be a bit older, but even with that being the case there is an element of originality and creativeness with not just character designs but animation as well. The older children get the less interested they're bound to be in shows rated TV-Y, just saying. As for your opinion regarding the G1 mlp, I agree there was a lack of research done there, but g4 has gone through censorship on some of its episodes due to parents being concerned that the characters are too offensive. I didn't grow up in the 80's either, but I don't think g1 went through too much censorship when it came to its characters. Characters were certainly far more terrifying in g1 in my opinion and character designs were different then.
K
MLP FIM doesn't have the inappropriate or mind numbing problems you mentioned. Plus it already has ponies in it so you should probably try to get your kid to watch it.
“On television “
ON TELEVISION?!
DUDE ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR KID SHOWS IN THE WORLD
I KNOOOOOOW
🦄🦄❤
I loved the old one, they used to mostly be the same, because most that I had only one had wings but I still loved them: the story was so gripping instead of odd plots and stupid BWAHAHAHAHA's and there wasn't just one best pony, the monsters were amazing, the creatures were amazing and had me hooked instead of me watching horse fucking (literally in cadence's case). The creatures had more variety and morse eye verity (I mean pupils) in my opinion. The places didn't have pun names as well. I find that the old one should have stayed because it was overall better.
So excited that this video is up. I requested a Then vs Now for MLP so I'm happy the fans got to see this.
Happy to oblige! - Jeremy
4:11 Grogar
**Mind Explodes**
GUYS WE CAN LEARN MORE ABOUT GROGAR'S BACKSTORY!
The 80‘s version with him was probably my favorite one. I was born in the 2000‘s but somehow ended up adoring the very first „movies“.
In the Episode, if I recall it correctly, with grogar he appeared with his magical realm Tamberlon(which only appeared every *insert insanely high number* ages) and tried to capture ALL the Ponys and other inhabitants, so he could take over Ponyland and swap their position with him, until his time was up, which was measured by his magical bell.
There were two groups focused. The ones who were captured and thrown into dungeon and the ones who hid in the forest and tried to escape Grogar and figure out a plan to Save everyone in time.
I, as a Child, was totally fascinated by the whole „capturing“ and „surviving“ and „dungeon“ stuff, Not having Seen anything of this kind in any other Cartoon I knew that Time.
Of course, rewatching it almost as an adult is something different (as a child I Never bothered about Animation of something like that, because I just LOVED it).
But still in this Grogar-Episode Things like friendship, support and compassion played a major role, I will Never forget. As Well as Grogar...
*so sorry for the long answer and possible mistakes, but I‘m Not a native.
The 1980s G1 MLP where the best. They where sweet, innocent, soulful,looked like real pony's and the toys where adorable.
I also love that one of the ones shown ALL THE TIME in the clips used here is one I had (and still do!)--Galaxy! The sparkle-eyed pony. I kept going "HEY I KNOW THAT ONE" the whole time. XD
I personally don’t agree, but that’s me :)
the 1980 mlp toys are really creepy like if you agree
I grew up with them. The toys were the best, and the cutest.
@@nevergatoride7850 The old isn't creepy. It's just more realistic while the newer keeps changing in art style and looks like there is just a plastic pony on screen . In my opinion, it's just isn't as good as it's original showing. One, they never change the message of the show, every episode is the same lesson.
I don't have a favorite pony,
Because my favorite is discord.
And discord isn't a pony he is a draconequus
*clap clap and clap*
How do you even type draconequesqs corrwctly
@@whitehors6370 its simple! Just do draconeguss.. draconqees..? Drah- con-
Ah forget it..
draconequis.
I have three main favorite characters
1: discord
2: Phyllis the plant (I think it's a newer one)
3: luna
Jam Jøm my 3 favourite main characters are 1: rainbow dash 2: scootaloo 3: Luna
3:23 "-and a semi-annual convention called Bronycon."
F's in the chat
I know it's gone but that's the Hasbro managed ones. There's still bronycon locally.
What I find so interesting (and annoying) about these videos is this attitude of what My Little Pony is. The assumption seems to be that "My Little Pony" means the animation. And then when discussing g1, it is always stated how it was a commercial to sell, eeew yuck, toys! as if G4 isn't! Come on, it's a brand owned by a toy company! Even if the line is more influenced by the show now, you can bet that if the toys weren't selling that they would stop making the show. I guess that this "animation first" mentality makes sense because of the Brony movement starting on an animation site. However, as a long time fan who grew up in the 80's I find this attitude backward. "My Little Pony" whether then or now is a toy line. Anything else, including the animation, no matter how successful it is, is extra.
I also didn't like the statement about how the toys were unappealing and that somehow made it harder for g1 to be animated in a nice way. And the fact that they were hand drawn, within a limited budget and time frame didn't have anything to do with it? Not to mention that the toys were absolutely not unappealing. There is a reason that My Little Pony was a huge thing to begin with. Little girls like myself found the toys to be hugely appealing. A lot of people now days seem to forget that culturally artistic tastes change and those people look down on anything that came before as if it is inherently inferior and not just a shift in what is currently popular. In another 20 years, there will be a whole new generation of fans looking down on G4 with the same attitude that G4 loves to pass on to G1.
Not popular liked G1 mlp.
Same i don't think the animation was bad i loved it and the toy's go G1
I agree! 100% I grew up with this and adored the series. I still have every season in a full series pack.
I'm not a brony! ( just wanted to make this clear, no offense to any brony out there) I have a little sister and she loves this show! She makes me watch this with her all the time!! She's super addicted to this show!! Since my sister made me watch this show.. it got stuck in my head... so I kind of like it, since I've watched it a lot.... so you can say I'm a fan of the show! ( I'm not calling myself a brony, because that word just seems weird to me. I'm calling myself a person who likes the show because it got stuck in my head) my favorite is twilight sparkles! Ok awesome video, love you ChannelFred, bye!! ( just curious this was uploaded yesterday but then taken down, just curious) bye!
Johnny Spahiu 👍
I feel exactly the same way besides the fact that I started watching it because I wanted to see how bad it was. Twilight is also my favorite because she is almost exactly the same as Dipper Pines from Gravity Falls.
You and me both. My sister got me into it too. I honestly thought it was just another terrible version but I mean the characters are so lovable!
my fav is twilight sparkle too and i don't think you add sparkle with s
Flower Heart123 oh let him he isnt a brony or pegasister so screw ups like that are allowed
Rainbow Dash was in the old version, she said Darling.
Or was that a different version
But I remember it
I’m dumb
That was G3 Rainbow Dash lol.
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES
Old Rainbow had the personality has Rarity. In the old theme there was a part *Rainbow Dash knows what to wear*
@@myleightibbs9829 Old Rarity (Gen 3) was mischievous rainbow princess lol (who happened to a baby)
*_Rainbow Dash is Rarity_*
Basing Original 80's My Little Pony world building off the cartoon is a bit of a mistake. Considering the aspect of UK comics in the 80's that were not sold in the USA, there was more going on with MLP back in the 80's than what FIM centered fans imagine. You also are not considering the backcard story each individual My Little Pony was sold with, Each toy pony had it's own individual story, it's own sticker it's own unique brush/comb and ribbon. There was a lot of work put into the individual toys and a lot more world 'building' than your video suggests. And lets face it, If you were into MLP back in the 80's you'd get what I was talking about, however people coming into it through FIM don't really appreciate 80's MLP because of they're narrow view of the brand through the cartoon.
And it's probably best to not to sort of belittle the brand simply because the 80's cartoon was created to 'sell toys'. I'd suggest not forgetting that the toyline was invented so that children could have they're own little pony, and in that children would develope and create they're own ideas about they're ponies. The Hasbro 'men' at the time poopooed on Bonnies Idea, told her girls only wanted to cook and iron. So using the term 'toy' and seeming to belittle what 'we' had in the 80's fails the see the impact it had on some of us 'girls' back in the 80's. Ponies actually taught a lot of us to be independent and we didn't have to be "BARBIE" to be awesome.
The video seems to play up the idea that G4 is better because of it's world building. I would agree in part, however since I grew up in the 80's my ponies were nothing like what I watched on the cartoon. I got into MLP in 1983, I didn't have a cartoon to base my ponies off when I started. The cartoon was an accessory to the toys and I developed my own ideas of the ponies personalities regardless of what hasbro and the writers came up with on a cartoon. So in some way the 80's ideas seem far more appealing to me instead of being a zombie to whatever Hasbro or the cartoon writers decide for the ponies.
I'd also like to point out Paradise Estate was not released till around 1985-1986. So as far as the ponies living in Paradise Estate that didn't happen till A full 2-3 years after MLP toy line started. My Little Pony houses that existed before Paradise Estate are as followed: Show Stable, Pretty Parlor, Waterfall and Dream Castle.
My first MLP house was the Show Stable, which I had a long while before I ever saw a paradise Estate. In fact I owned the stable before I ever saw a My Little Pony cartoon. I think when doing video's like this, I think it's sometimes a good idea to actually talk to the 'adult' fans who existed before FIM adult fans. These kind of videos generally come across as not very knowlegable of the original brand or at the very least don't have any input in perspective of those who loved the brand back in the 80's and tend to be fixated in Generation 4.
It's funny you sound a lot like Lauren Faust who created g4 when she describe growing up with G1. The characters she put in the show, which where just her personifications of the pony toys she played with growing up.
I wonder how the kids growing up now will take the franchise next.
Hmm....no one ever seems to talk about G2 - G3.5.... probably for the best.
One of my biggest pet peeves. G2 did not have a cartoon, but it's a common misconception among the newer MLP fans. I believe they mistakenly refer to G2 as MLP Tales cartoon as G2, which is incorrect. The toy line was exactly the same with Tales, same molds and nobody back then called it G-anything, it was MLP, even though the show was a tad different the toyline for it was exactly the same. The generational term applies to the toy line in My Little Pony, considering the fandom that existed before FIM centered fans came into being in 2010 or thereafter. The G2, or generation 2 title was given to the line of toys because Hasbro reused names. You have to realize back in 1997, the internet for collectors was in it's infancy. Most of us MLP fans who got online were looking to complete our collections but some people would sell G2 line ponies as G1 ponies becaus of the reuse of names. The collecting community started labeling the 'Friendship Garden' ponies as G2 ponies. So if you had Sundance, we would know if it's G1 or G2 Sundance (etc.). Everything that came before G2 toys falls under G1, this includes MLP tales and the toy ponies characters.
I agree. Plus this video was just biased in general
Omg I really don’t know anything about my little pony do I.
The UK comics you mention were not in the same canon as the TV show.
The new ponies don't look like ponies at all. The classic ponies did.
"The new one looks nicer in my opinion."
I remember watching the older versions as a child and being a big fan, so one time I was in a store and saw a newer mpl magazine and was sooooo confused. Like "who tf are these?????" And the style was different and everything
I know she's controversial, a fact that you hinted at in this very video, but my favorite pony is Starlight Glimmer. I just find her very relatable and adorable. And she had such good chemistry with Trixie as well!
Starlight's the best thing to happen to the show in years.
I love Starlight!
Glim Glam I love starlight too.
She definitely do like Trixie, after all she would call her a sister in future. But before that they and her half-brother Sunburst need back in time on end of the show to tie all loose ends.
Glim Glam The great and powerful TRRRRRRRIXIEE
I loved my little pony and friends :'(
pevert fujoshi2 same
Same
Nope
I Love all MLP's
Same!
MLP:Friendship is magic is the best!
Yes it is!
I prefer the original my little pony because I grew up with it and the graphics on the new one just looks very lazy and untalented I’m sorry but it’s my opinion
i agree with you so much!!
The new ones are clean and undetailed yes but the old ones are detailed and look frankly awful
My favorite pony has to be Pinkie Pie her randomness just makes me happy.
Though i would like to point out a slight mistake when talking about Twilight as a Princess but using an image of her old unicorn form rather than her current alicorn one.
The original seems nice where can I watch it?
I grew up watching the old My Little Pony and was so angry when they remade the show, but now I don't mind it.
Its Bebe I did too I am a 80’s child as well I was 9
I like the old one , at first I didn't like the new one but now I do.
This, my dear persons from the internet, is what I call:
Honoring the new by giving it a chance and face that we are actually not the main targeted group of this series at all.
never really got into the old one.... they look unsettling to me
Season 8's hype train is on the move.
Hype train will stop on s8 for a brief luch, then max engines for the next movie !
Yay
March 24th! The Hype Train will stop at March 24th for Season 8 and then move n to Season 9, and then on to Generation 5!
DuctTape Queen with two movies between G4 and 5
im scared for a chrysalis
R.I.P mlp. We will all miss u. I can’t believe it’s over, you’ve brought memories, happiness and excitement. You’ve gone strong for 9 years (I think). This fandom really appreciated your existence from the beginning. Thank you, from the bottom of my heart. Goodbye everypony, it’s been real.
perpi perli well over 9 years buddy
Not to be mean, but mlp is still ongoing?? And it's been 3 years after you posted this
@@myra0224 ngl i do not remember writing this comment, i have no idea what i was on about 💀
I don't watch MLP. I just enjoy the Then vs Now series.
But the shame is still there right ?
Just don't hate on people and we both can coexist :D
so we just ignoring gen 2 - 3.5 of mlp? oh okay then!
Kc Sams I have no idea what the hay your talking about (apple jack lying face)
KingIceHunter G3.5 was the G3 ponies but as little fillies and with huge heads. G2 I believe was Pony Tales, a show that aired after the first MLP show, or some people also refer to it as the new line of MLP toys that came out after G1
Funtime Froodyie did....did you look up....did you look up applejack’s lying/dishonest face?...specifically the one from the discord episode?
Agree, they are part of the serie just as any season no matter if it was bad or not.
I also dont like how he talks like g4 is the superior, it is a great show but it is not a god...
we don't talk about 3.5....
As requested, my favourite character from My Little Pony has got to be Pinkie Pie because she always makes me laugh with her bouncy attitude. I also find it funny that she always seems to think being in terrible danger is fun, although 'fun' is not quite the word most people, or ponies, would be using to describe a gruesome near-death experience, I'm sure. 😉😄
I will always love the old my little pony, even though mlp:fim is my generation. But I absolutely loved the old cartoon, it was way more entertaining in my opinion.
Same
If I have to be honest I hate the new show. I don’t like the animation or the characters at all. Exspecially Pinkie Pie, which seems to be a fan favorite for some reason. She is one of the most annoying characters I’ve ever seen in a cartoon. All of the characters are so stereotypical. I would prefer the old show over the new one any day. I’m not trying to say the old one was a masterpiece, because I know it wasn’t. I may prefer the old ones because my mom loved the old cartoon, so I played with all of her old toys and grew up with her showing me all the old cartoons. And the show wasn’t so overly sappy and sweet like Friendship is Magic. I know I’m probably going to get showered with hate over this, but it’s just my opinion. I’m not saying you’re stupid for liking the new show. Heck, I know that I like plenty of shows and movies that lots of people hate, but I just think the new one is trash. Sorry if anyone gets butthurt over my opinion, I understand that Friendship is Magic has a very strong fanbase, and I’m glad they’re that passionate over something they love, just don’t shoot down other people because they don’t like the same things you do.
A lot of G4 fans have come to appreciate the older generations in recent years. For example, I watched and enjoyed "The End of Flutter Valley" from G1 not so long ago, and I have friends who were MLP fans before Friendship is Magic existed. I think part of this is because most of the people who were just bronies "for da lulz" have gone away now, and those who are left are more likely to be in for the long haul.
I do slightly take issue with the idea that the FiM characters are all totally stereotypical, though. They've changed and evolved noticeably over seven seasons. The show isn't all sugary-sweet now, either.
I wouldn’t know that the characters had any character development. Everything I said was based on just what I have seen, but thanks for sharing your opinion calmly. I was honestly nervous to put the comment up because I was afraid of making people mad. I haven’t watched the new show recently, but maybe it has improved. I still think I would prefer the old shows, but I understand why people do like the new one.
Hmmm That's globally what I said after seeing the half season 1.
And I think Pinkie remain a stereotype for a while in the show. But then, she becomes serious sometimes. They need some seasons to break their stereotypes, but they do it all.
I swatched the G1,2 and 3 a little bit, and I seriously hated it a lot. The ponies are stereotyped a lot for the whole generation (omg, gen 3... OMG GEN 3.5), so... I don't understand your opinion honestly. Is that just some nostalgia ? Like these people birth in 90s nostalgic from the 70s ?
Two Simple People No hate here mate. As for Pinkie the reason a lot of people like her is because of her jokes, personality, 4th wall breaking, episodes, songs etc but some people find her annoying because of the things she does in episodes or because of her voice.
P.s Trust me mate the ponies don't stay stereotypical 😉.
Sorry if I seemed kinda mean. I could have said it a little nicer. With the amount of people that like it I doubt the show is bad quality, I just don’t think it’s the show for me. And even now with the old ones, it’s more for just nostalgia. If I had no clue what MLP was and watched the old ones I probably wouldn’t like them.
Original MLP had cute designs but the characters lacked of personallity....some of them were only good.
But MLP G4 they fixed that and maybe the ponies look more cartoonish but they now have a better character development.
@Lillyana Duff
Being angry at once doesn't mean character development.
Besides, many of them lacked facial and body expressions.
@Lillyana Duff
My opinion
@Lillyana Duff There is something called an “opinion”
At first, when I first watched MLP, I have onky watched the older version and preferred that one because of the design. Later, I prefer watching FiM because all the characters in MLP are great and loveable, even the villains are well written in my opinion
People say the old one is better or the new one is better, but I say, both the old and new is good, in different ways. Though I kinda dislike the old show's style, and I kinda still like the new show if I don't think of... Those disgusting bronies/pegasisters who almost ruined it for me... I used to love this show too when I was younger and liked childish stuff. Nowadays I usually cringe at childish shows, but MLP somehow doesn't. Only a few times. And I even still have those MLP OCs. It really depends on when you were born though. Anyone who was born at the time of the old one would probaly like that more, because nostalgia and all, and people born during the new would like that more.
Just a reminder that while some Bronies and Pegasisters are obnoxious and weird, all fanbases have people like this. The general fandom is meant to be a celebration of the show as a positive influence. It can speak to all ages, and a lot of Bronies are some of the nicest people in the world.
@@welcometothemetaverse2523 True but there are sadly alot of cringy people. I know from experience.
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But that's every fanbase who has their black sheep. Star Wars fans can be annoyingly entitled, comic book fans can be very competitive with eachother, Rick and Morty fans can be toxic, etc. At least the Bronies and pegasisters try to inspire creativity and positive thinking. They're kind of like anime fans.
i know both are great but i understand why people say the old one is better well because thats where mlp started but yeah
I'm so old that I remember the old show...
*Crys*
No... Not that old.... And not remembering no
Dude, I do too. Heck I even HAVE some of the ponies showed in the oldschool clips of this video. :D
Kawaii Kelly How old are you exactly?
I'm pretty sure its cries* but I'm pretty sure that's a meme *-So YeEt-*
2008 girl and even I know it
Why do I love G1 of My Little Pony the best? Because it had the cutest ponies and such splendid animated adventures!
For some reason I never got that into MLP/FIM.... But I absolutely LUV the 1980's MLP version. I personally feel that it's a better show, plus I prefer the darker villains of that series. It makes their win over them that much more! Good conquers evil n such, u know?
I LIKED YOUR COMMENT! You already made grew up your life make sense decision.
Diana Wackrow You know that a lot of the G1 villains were selected to be G4 villains, right?! Heck, we literally GOT Grogar in all his demonic ram glory in Season 9. And they improved on Tirek. When I watched “Rescue at Midnight Castle”, I didn’t really see Tirek as all that intimidating. Yes, he used his “Rainbow of Darkness” to change ponies into monsters, but seriously, he was mainly just sitting on his throne doing NOTHING, but making threats to chop off Spike’s head. G4 Tirek on the other hoof, he drains magic, causes mass destruction, is insanely evil, and grows bigger each time he drains magic. Catrina wasn’t all that of a villain. She was more of a “embittered person” who got a quick reformation that I knew was coming. I respect your opinion, but if you were to watch G4 now, you’d certainly be impressed with it.
Lucy Logan Perhaps not, but sad endings aren’t common for tv shows.
menor 220 What’s that mean?
The best pony ay?
Hm
Starlight Glimmer
TheGermanofSodor no twilight is the best pony
I think you spelled Applejack wrong.
Starlight's okay, but Rainbow Dash is about 20% cooler!
Come on, everyone knows Derpy is the one true best pony.
Really,I'm a Fluttershy or Pinkie
MLP FIM G4 at best.🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
Equestria is a lot like America? That's interesting and it makes some parts of the show make sense.
And France is a canon country in this show x)
I don't think so, cause there are many more cultures showed in mlp...its just the shape of the land
I've seen both old and new. I like G4 more. As for my favorite ponies, I have two. One is Fluttershy, the other is a background pony named Lyra Heartstrings.
30 years on, and the magic continues!
one thing peapol dont think about is if the old mlp dident come on tv the new mlp would bever exsist
Lol I love Rainbow Dash for her NeverEnding confidence , I'm not a very confident person myself and I admire her. But I also appreciate Pinkie Pie because her main goal in life is to make other people happy and I think that is a great thing to do to be happy because other people are happy
THAT'S WHERE GROGAR CAME FROM! I was like "how come we never heard of him?" So that's where he came from he was in the original
Not so biased as usual in such videos but still many untrue statements that diminish the true awesomeness that is G1. Nice try though.
i totally agree with you!! g1 is wonderful
i can't get past that animation to even give it a chance
"Nightmare fuel"? His kids must be very weak and easy to frighten.
"Looks too 80s." As if that were a bad thing when talking about the better animation of that time.
"The new style 'sometimes' looks cheap." Sometimes? Sometimes???
This guy is definitely biased, and did not disguise it very well.
Adobe Trash! Hahahaha, very appropriate.
But I think it looks way worse than something someone could have created on their computer.
I love both the 80's and present day MLP!
U serious?
@@tavishfinnegandegroot3513 pretty sure she is
She? Huh no wonder.
@@tavishfinnegandegroot3513 wdym
@@mafiagirl.elizzq this is 3 years ago i forgot what i meant 😅
The egghead thing was probably intended to be a joke. It reminds me of my friends. If we’re gonna say something about someone in our group, we’re gonna say it to their face.
I call myself "eggface" because of my oval face
The 80s had an 'interesting' take on what was ok for TV.
Yeah, back then they didn't pull any punches because kids needed that sort of adrenaline.
The 80s was a dark era and those of us who lived through its media love it for that.
It was not nearly interesting enough. I obviously didn't break America out of its habit of misguided censoring of content for children.
Technically the following cartoons decided to take less risks, up until the likes of Batman: The Animated Series and Gargoyles showed up.
GEWB2105 we had awesome cartoons back then I loved mlp and rainbow brute as well as he- man and she-ra
GEWB2105 sry brite
Friendship is magic is way better than the OLD mlp.
"IKR!"
Yup
So this is a reboot of the 80s?!
I can understand most of these points despite loving the original cartoon. (The animation doesn't hold up well today at all) But the points about worldbuilding and characterisation don't take into account that Friendship is Magic has had many more seasons and episodes than My Little Pony and Friends had.
Friendship is Magic is going on 9 seasons soon iirc. MLP and Friends only had two, and they were fairly short seasons with less time to set up character arcs and worldbuilding per 10 minute episode.
Even with the little time they had, I can still remember memorable places like Tambelon, Flutter Valley, and the location where Sonambula took place, though I can't remember the name exactly. And there were some good memorable characters like Shady, Wind Whistler, Surprise, Ribbon, and Fizzy. I think if they had more time, they would have fleshed things out really well, they were on the right track.
Surprise was hot!^_^
I prefer the old my little pony. :)
God this makes me feel old -~-
Please 107 facts of Randy Cunningham 9th grade ninja is a underrated series from DisneyXD
Santa Rosa
Yes please
I love it
I like the 80s style better. I wish they could split the difference.
Definitely prefer the 80's version, especially the art style. Never got into MLPFIM, but definitely understand the appeal.
These ‘modern’ ones look like aliens - I collected the original ponies; they were not ‘bulky & awkward’ they looked like *real* ponies.
Rainbow dash isnt new?? she is a version of earlier gens
Rainbow Dash came to g3 as an earth pony. So yeah, Rainbow Dash isnt new to g4. Only merged with Firefly to create g4 Rainbow Dash.
Most of the G4 characters and toys are tweaked G3s.
Current RD has the Pegasus and personality of Firefly and colors and name of G3 Dash
I agree she was based on g1 Firefly
komorebi exactly I grew up watching the original she was the fashionista in the original while rarity was the tomboyish one
I love doing Disney Dark Secrets but honestly (so far) THIS video was my favorite one to put my voice too! So...whos' your favorite Pony? In case you can't tell mine is Starlight Glimmer! :) What Then vs Now should Channel Frederator cover next?
Frank James Bailey princess Luna but I do love GlimGlam. Plus I ship Trixie/Glimmer so hard!
glimglam and the zimzam
Frank James Bailey my favorite pony is Derpy, with AJ right behind her and Twilight Sparkle right after that
Frank James Bailey mine is twilight
My favorite pony is Pinky Pie!
tirek and grogar were the only villains who came back in friendship is magic
I preferred the 1986 version
I was drawn to the series by the music made by the fans, they were really creative and inspiring in the early years, then I saw the fan art people were making at the time and it was all just really beautiful. However now days the fan base has devolved, fan art is rarely SFW, and no one is putting out original content about the series, I still follow the artists that got me into it, but the ones who are still producing have distanced themselves from the show, honestly it's all kinda depressing.
I started the show by hating bronies, but I figured out that in 2018 if you want full of SFW, it's clearly possible, there is tons of them everyday.
Still hate romances gore and clopping, but I have a large choice actually.
I get you, that's why I always check the daily galleries posted in Equestria Daily in search for undiscovered talents. Also, I for one still draw ponies (SFW ALWAYS) yet not to so often as before, if most artists in the fandom are like me is probably because they don't have enough free time since most of us were students who already got into the labour life (it has been more than 7 years already).
Pinky Pie and The Cutie Mark Crusaders are my favorite Ponies. I love how the crusaders grown which is why their argument in season 8 made little sense. If they were going to argue I would see it as more of an argument over a boy. 😂 I love Pinky Pie because she's like me: a curly haired, ADHD girl who's wild and loves to make people laugh. Literally me. And it was so good to see someone like me on TV even when they're a Pony.
G1: More complex narrative, darker themes, more action/adventure oriented, more mature characters, consistent storytelling (every 6-10 episodes run in arcs that focus on one specific storyline). Dated music, dated animation, dated aesthetics in general. Less individual character focus overall
G4: Less complex narrative, lighter general themes. More story/ character oriented, less mature characters (changes based on the whims of the episode). More detailed world setting. Better music, animation, aesthetics in general. More focus on individual characters.
G1 is for those who can stomach pretty cringey animation/ dated musical selection in order to enjoy a series that is consistent in story and handles its themes and characters in a much more serious way than its later counterpart. G4 is for those who want a focus on characters, consistent character development, worldbuilding, and having it all happen in a neat and polished setting.
I'm gen 4 fan. But I can respect gen 1 fans.
I draw the line at gen 3 tho. That's a spoof of a spoof of MLP.
I like g7
I time travel
A lot
@@tabithathecat lol.