This video must go to recommendations at least 1000x times more! Really awesome tutorial on how to do some advanced MIDI stuff using just guitar and a software
This is the most informative video on Midi Guitar 2 that I have seen. I am more skilled at Bass and Guitar than a Midi Keyboard and my session work requires a high level of musicianship. So with Midi Guitar 2 it is possible to deliver tracks to clients in any style of music using todays excellent virtual instruments. Thank you so much for taking the time to share your knowledge and experience using Midi Guitar 2.
Absolutely the BEST channel for tutorials and info on MIDI guitar! I've learned so much just by watching your videos, thanks so much for sharing your knowledge!
Super - and exactly what I was looking for. I really like the breadth of your demonstrations. Everyone can find themselves somewhere in there. I'm a rock, blues, jazz guitarist looking to write for orchestras but my keyboard skills are very light. This looks perfect.
Yes, MIDI Guitar2 has really helped me achieve a lot of different projects in styles (and with techniques) I wouldn’t have dared to even dream of without it. It has been a constant source of inspiration from day one really. There’s a trial version on the JamOrigin page, to let you get a feel for if it is something for you as well. 😀👍
Apologies for a late reply. I use Windows 10 and a Line 6 UX audio interface. Mg2 works fine with Cakewalk as a plugin. In the standalone mode, I get to hear all the instruments that come with Mg2. I have registered Shreddage 3 with Native Access. Once S3 is opened, I see the interface but can't hear anything. In the Audio option of S3, I see ASIO and ASIO UX2 as driver and device. Sample rate is 44100. The interface on MG2 shows ASIO UX2 with the latency at 256@44.1
Excellent.There are guitar players and guitar players.This guy is humble but has an incredible talent.I have been playing Midi guitar for years but i must say those saxes and wind instruments with the mouth controller are so real its unbelievable.if you close your eyes you could not tell the difference.Well done! A great asset to guitar Midi players.The pianos still sound strange on a guitar but the rest thumbs up.
Thank you for such detailed clarity - and wonderful playing. I've struggled with all forms of guitar-MIDI controllers over the 'decades'. MIDI Guitar 2 looks like a keeper.
Thanks, James! I have also had high expectations on what a MIDI Guitar setup could bring to the table, but I had almost given up hope on it when I discovered this software a few years ago. And if you think MIDI Guitar 2 looks great, you are not going to be dissapointed by the next generation of this software. Not out yet, and I can’t give you a timeframe, but man, it is good! 😀👍
Hi what about more groove oriented playing where timing is important. Like playing with rhythms in funk and pop stuff. How is tracking timing? @@lofileif
@kennethwilliams4725 Well, you have the latency in the software. That is a factor. The question if whether you learn to handle it lies in practice. Tracking itself is definetly fast enough for most types of genres! It is all about the process of learning how to play this ”new” instrument (midi guitar), recalibrating your old skills of using the controller (guitar) for new purposes!
@kennethwilliams4725 I don’t have any such reference unfortunately! I have only used the Roland system with the hex PU/Gk system before this. You have a round trip latency measureing about 20ms for the low E string. But as I said, the amount of latency is not a problem. You learn to compensate for that with practice. Like a reed player switching between different instruments, with different sized columns of air required, affecting the rapidness of response. If it aligns with your expectations it is not an issue.
I use midi guitar 2 to play acoustic guitar over MainStage sounds bank. Actually I play with "full orchestra" and "church choir" as the midi sounds in the background, and my guitar as the main instrument.
Thank you so much Leif, this is mind-blowing. From this I think we can be confident that anything is possible, that MG2 is totally amazing (not to mention your superb use of it) and that any problems I may encounter are likely to be of my own making 😂. I basically use MG2 live at church and on the streets, sending my acoustic guitar into my iPhone via iRig 2. I use the MG2 onboard amp models/reverb/cabs with the midi going to AudioKit’s Synth One to provide strings. Like you I use a very simple transmitter/receiver pairing to send the total output to my audio amp. Alternatively, in intimate living room environments, I often link the iRig 2 output via a very short cable to a Bluetooth speaker in my jeans’ back pocket. The iRig 2 comes with a belt loop which means it’s so easy to keep the iPhone in a front jeans pocket. For switching presets live I use IK Multimedia’s BlueBoard. My setup is incredibly simple and very cheap and although I’m way, way below the amazing standard you set Leif, I wanted to share it to encourage folk like me for whom MG2 can be such a huge blessing. Thanks again for this wonderful video and all you do on the forum! 🍾❤️
Thank YOU Mike! 🙏🙏🙏 I am happy to hear there are a few more of us that don’t consider this software to be merely a gimmick, or a glorified toy. And furthermore that actually use this in our everyday lives. The more testimonials like yours here, people get to read, the more convincing it makes the case for a small company product like MIDI Guitar, so again: Thank you Mike!
Well, I would probably use MIDI Guitar 3 over MIDI Guitar 2, since the tracking allows for a greater variety of synths (MPE included). The latency in itself is depending more on what softwre instrument you are using. Some are unplayable, and some feel like a natural extension of your guitar. Monitoring will also play a big part live, I guess. Best is if you test the software out for yourself, to see if it fits your style and needs: You can find the beta versions of MG3 here: www.jamorigin.com/beta/ If you still rather go for MG2: you can download them in trial mode as well: www.jamorigin.com/download/
Have you considered the cycfi pickups? I think they could be better (s/n, fidelity) than the Roland as they are designed to be a audio source and each coil is active and humbucking. Also since you seem to be running down almost every possible interface are you considering leap motion? Keith McMillan instruments has presets for the leap motion and mixing for the Kmix mixer. Really appreciate your spirit and generosity in this channel
Hi, and thanks a million for the tips. Yep, I have been looking long and hard at the cycfi PU:s, and I agree. I believe those would probably work better than the Roland stuff. If nothing else, they will have a dedicated place on your guitar. Almost as if they were designed to be there you know? 🤣 I've never understood those sharp edges on the Roland hexPU:s (even the integrated ones) and the awful little cable on the external GK3 set. But money is probably the reason for why I don't have any NUmultis yet. I would love to test how great they actually are, but I can't justify a purchase just for a test right now. And the Leap Motion stuff I had in the shopping basket a few years ago, but something came up, and I never went ahead with that purchase. It is interesting, but as a guitar player I got my hands full already, and I haven't figured out a way to make use of that while playing? I've used the free MusiiKraken, to test some gesture control stuff, but nothing has come out of that yet either. But still, really interesting stuff!👍
@@lofileif the Cycfi only gets expensive when you add the robust cabling and integrated “normal” pickup tone/pot breakout box solution. $170 plus some DB-9 cabling custom direct to your 6 daw inputs could be under $210 plus labor. Good point about the hands 😂 I’ll take it out of my eBay search list now… there is an idea of using the Face ID iPhone camera and facial motion cap to drive expression based expression. Also, the melt my face off jokes just write themselves… But those face mo cap phone helmets look ridiculous.
Just to say, as a beginner to using Midi2Guitar, this is a great overview. I will look at the M2G forum, but think I am correct that even with my M1 iPad Pro 12.9”, I cannot replicate the multi-M2G track approach you have performed with? I don’t have a hex pickup, but that’s not an M2G issue - unless I miss my mark, M2G for iOS, iPadOS, strictly operates as the standalone running, then you start up GarageBand (or Cubasis, Auria Pro, or others) and so it’s a single track deal. I tried to run the AUv3, but it’s not a direct comparison to a desktop plugin it seems, in GB iOS, it is merely an effect, so you cannot produce MIDI from it, hence multi-track in iOS is a non-starter I think. But hey, it’s a wonderful and high-value piece of software, and I am not rushing to buy a hex pickup anyway! Thank you for the music as they say! Take care all.
Hey there! You are right in that this is not a setup for iPad, for a few reasons. First, I use a Boss GP-10 as an 8 channel audio interface for the hex-pickup’s audio separation. And that GP-10 needs a driver which isn’t possible to use with the iPad at this point. You could perhaps use a breakout cable directly into a minimum 6 channel audio interface to the same effect though. I displayed an example layer with Camelot Pro and MIDI guitar2 in plugin mode on six layers, and I do think that you would be able to do on the iPad too. But I certainly wouldn’t be rushing off to by buy a hexPU for that either! Thanks for stopping by though, and hope there was other stuff in here that tickeled your fancy too! 😀👍
Kul att höra att du gillade den. Om du inte har använt MIDI Guitar 2 eller breathcontroller tidigare, så har jag precis gjort två ännu mer detaljerade videor på ämnena. Kolla dom om du är intresserad. Du kan ju börja med att ladda ner Prov versionen av MIDI Guitar 2 så du ser om det är något du känner att du vill jobba med? www.jamorigin.com/download/
Hey man. Anyone that can play that well and made a whole video endorsing a product has my attention. I read the comments before asking this: I own GK3 and GR55. It's great but I want to be all software. Regarding MG2, I need the hexaphonic pickup set up for minor 2nds and string separation. I thought GRk3 needs additional processor to create MIDI to the interface but Fishman FTP does not? I saw one comment that the Gk3 or FTP with MG2 is not suitable for "live" playing (studio only) and did not understand that. I have faith in MG3 whenever it is ready. So what pickup should I use and what interface helps that 13pin signal go into 6 DAW channels? (I don't do fancy expressions but might get a breath controller after seeing you play !). That Coltrane you were playing one one of the videos was awesome!
Also, I need killer sitar, oud, koto and other 'world' sounds. I found them for GR55 but do you have soft/plugin recommendations? I guess I'll read up on how the MG3 plugin has sounds added...or maybe it pulls form other sound banks live? I hope to do my whole automated Ableton show from an iPad... maybe a small laptop and get rid of my GR55, vocal processor, beat buddy, aeros looper, mixer and 2,389 cables!
Hey Joe! Thanks for stopping by. If you really feel you need that string separation, and you want to go this "old school" (HexPU 6 channels audio OUT to six instances of MG2,) you need something like the GP10, the SY-1000, or a breakout cable solution. The 6 instances of MG2 placed on 6 separate tracks in your DAW is what does the conversion to MIDI. You don't want to use the Roland/Boss protocol. FTP on the other hand does the conversion and separate strings all in one, but again, a pretty dynamically flat conversion and triggering is uneven at best. Has been regarded as the fastest alternative with regard to latency though. I can understand any apprehensiveness to use any of the existing MIDI solutions live, but I have been occupied with testing MG3 for some time now, and it is better in so many respects, I can't see anyone use anything else in the near future. But that remains to be seen of course. But for those that are strongly against a computer on stage, the struggle will of course continue. I will not be one of them. 😀 so for now (if you like the 13 pin system) use any of your old GK pickups, but instead of committing to some archaic system with drivers updates you have no control over, get something like this: www.separate-strings.co.uk/breakout%20cables%20and%20more.html and a 6 channel audio interface. As long as that interface can connect to your computer (skip firewire) you are good. Have a look at this: th-cam.com/video/pYsS1uzQNak/w-d-xo.html and consider perhaps GigPerformer rather than a traditional DAW. Much more flexible for stage. I don't know about the world sounds really. I would like some myself. I have the Kontakt ones, but Kontakt is generally pretty clumsy to work with, and I have been eyeing stuff like UVI World Suite 2. But since I don't have that I can't say anything. I prefer to speak from experience, rather than what TH-camrs tell me. They usually have some monetary incentive to not be fully committed to any truth of sorts, unfortunately. So you need to do your due diligence also with regard to what I am saying here. 😉👍
Hey brother! This a phenomenal video! Really inspiring! Would you be able to share a comprehensive list of all the Plug-ins and virtual instruments that you recommend? Aswell as what breathcontroller you were using? Much appreciated 🙏
Hey! Thanks a bunch for stopping by! Most of my other videos are videos showcasing great plugins for MIDI Guitar2, and I usually have all gear listed in the description. Here is a place to start for anyone interested: MIDI Guitar 2.2.1 - Best plugins 2022 th-cam.com/video/B3PP2ZXWyP8/w-d-xo.html
@@lofileif Thanks so much! I've been watching all of your videos for the last few hours...I'm hooked haha. Could you name specifically where you sourced that Duduk and Arabic Oud sound that was in one of your other videos? Those links didn't seem to lead to them. 🙏
That's bizarre dude. I wonder how something like this would function for beat making for more modern types of music. Portability is nice too. I like to walk and play. Sometimes I end up entertaining random people, other times I end up collaborating with random people. The more function I can bring to these performances the better they will be. Could your portable set up be used to record as well?...thanks for the demo.
Hi man! Sure, the mobile setup can surely record stuff even on the move. Just use an iOS DAW like cubaseor something similar. I use the same wireless setups for both desktop computers and iPhones/iPads. I have a lot of videos featuring these setups here on this channel. 😀👍
If you want to change a MIDI Guitar 2 preset to another preset you can use any footcontroller pedal that can send PC (Program Change) messages. If you want to change a patch in some multi effect that you have opened inside MIDI Guitar 2, it is not assignable via the app itself, I am afraid.
Thank you so much for the generous information! I am a fingerstyle guitarist and I am very interested in getting into midi guitar playing for the different instrument sounds I can play on one guitar and so I need your guidance. Currently I've got a Yamaha Pacifica 112j for my electric guitar and a Fender CD-60CE for my Electric Acoustic Guitar, I don't have a Digital Audio Interface at the moment but I do have experience. What's a good setup for starting with Midi Guitar playing? I was considering buying the Jamstik Studio MIDI Guitar, do I need a digital audio interface to use it? If so what should I get? If I buy the MIDI Guitar 2 Software, I'm guessing I need to buy a digital audio interface to use it with my current Yamaha Pacifica 112j, would that be a better/cheaper option than buying the Jamstik Studio MIDI Guitar? Basically I am ready to invest into this new space of guitar playing for me, what's the ideal setup? I just really wanna be able to play piano and saxophone sounds on my guitar. Your feedback would be appreciated!
Hi Kareem! Glad to hear from any finger-style guitar player that is interested in MIDI Guitar. I've advocated a hybrid picking approach for users of the MIDI Guitar software for the longest time since more fingers equal more control. And you certainly need precision and control to make it work. To begin with, you will need an audio interface for whatever setup you choose. It doesn't matter if you go with the hardware solution (Jamstik)or the software (JamOrigin's MIDI GUitar2). Both need a computer to work really. I assure you can argue that you could use the Jamstik MIDI out and hook it up directly to a synth or sound source of any kind, but you'd be missing out on everything that make this a powerful setup. You won't close to as great sounding saxes or pianos in any stock sounds from any synths. So yes, you need an audio interface. But you don't need to ruin yourself. I use Focusrite Scarlett interfaces, which are rather cheap, and I have no issues with sound quality or tracking speed from those. There is going to be some degree of latency in the setup, whatever setup you choose. Look at this video for tis on how to handle that with the MIDI Guitar 2 software. th-cam.com/video/hHY9CysF4Dc/w-d-xo.html More than that, what you have is probably already good enough to get started with. You don't need a DAW (digital audio workstation) to try the MIDI Guitar 2 software. Just downloaded the trial version here:www.jamorigin.com/download/ Try it before you buy it, and if you after testing it believe it is worth the money to instead purchase a Jamstik, you are at least better equipped by having tested the competition. I won't be arguing for any of the alternatives, since I want it to be your decision. But again, I like for it to be an informed decision. Both will certainly do the job.
@@lofileif Appreciate the valuable feedback! I went ahead and ordered a Focusrite Scarlett, I’ll be buying the software as well. I’ve got a few questions regarding the software: 1. How many total different sounds are available to use? 2. Is there a saxophone option on MIDI Guitar 2? How can I play saxophone on my guitar? 3. How can I loop with this setup? Do I need a physical looper or software looper. Thanks in advance mate!
@@kareemtarawneh5058 Hi Kareem! A lot of questions there, so I’ll get right into it: 1. As many as your computer can tolerate. If you are talking about ”internal sounds” from MG2 itself, I don’t know. I don’t use them. I use it only as a MIDI translation device. 2.There is no saxophone in MG2. Any serious alternative will be some external vst at this point. If you want to use something like the SWAM instruments, this is a place to start: Where to start with the new SWAM Woodwinds v3 and MIDI Guitar 2.2.1 - Pt. 1, In detail walkthroughhttps: //th-cam.com/video/NbUF_EunPEE/w-d-xo.html 3. I’ve never actually used a looper, but I don’t see why you couldn’t use either: physical hardware or software or both in combination.
Very informative (as always). I'd love to hear you interpret some of the first movement of the Sibelius violin Dm concerto. With the instruments in your library and the breath controller, I'd imagine you could create a very convincing version.
Thanks a million! Yeah, I have actually already veered towards Sibelius with this new Divisimate Orchestral stuff, so it is certainly an interesting idea. I will absolutely look into it, thanks for the inspiration. 😀🙏
Thank you🙏🙏🙏Well, if you liked this version, you should really take a look a the MG3 that is about to be released soon. th-cam.com/video/SX0jdGMSGcY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=BQQicln9TbLAO2wb
Purchased MIDI Guitar years ago when it in was still Beta. Later acquired a GR-55 and SY-1000 and find MIDI Guitar 2 is better! I can play MIDI Guitar 2 (from any guitar) into/through Roland XV-5050, Integra7, Kronos LS88 - magic!
I agree! I haven't used any of my hardware (except for my GP-10, as a 6 channel over USB interface), after I found MG2. I guess you bought it before me? I think I have my receipt from January 2018! 😃 I think I may have ran it of and on as a demo, for a couple of years before that too though. Great stuff 👍
Impressive video. So basically midi guitar for strumming doesn’t work well? Was hoping to strum chords and run them through various plugins for synth pads and soundscapes.
Thanks! Well, while MIDI Guitar 2 doesn't work that well for strumming, the next version (MIDI Guitar 3), which is being worked on as we speak, does. I have no date for its release, but I am helping out in the testing process, and you can watch a few of the videos where I talk about MPE and MIDI Guitar for a little preview. 😀👉 th-cam.com/video/kC1LFhFCZXE/w-d-xo.html
@@lofileif thanks for your time. 😊 Strumming would really open up this world for what many people want to achieve. Please demo strumming / Ebow for controlling synths in future videos.
I have three new videos on MPE Synths. Look at the Pianoteq part in this one, and I am sure you'll see the potential. th-cam.com/video/kIdKXeowMKg/w-d-xo.html
Excellent video. I've known about JamOrigin MIDI Guitar for a while, but this is by far the best demonstration of its capabilities I've seen. I think I need to download the Trial version an see if it will work on my old computer. That was an extremely helpful video. Thanks! 😎
If you haven’t tried yet, You absolutely should. Please take into consideration that some patience is often needed initially to get past those first hurdles. Take it slow in the beginning, it will pay off in the end! 👍
@@lofileif I found that I had downloaded and installed Version 2.2.1 back in March, but for some reason, was too busy or couldn't get it to work. I'm using an HX Stomp as my Audio Interface, and have read some comments about some problems getting it to work. I launched MG 2, and it seems to be working fine so far, minimal latency. Will have to explore it more. Is 2.2.1 the current Version. I'm trying to determine how actively Jam Origin is in maintaining and developing their products. I tried the Test Piano. My Classical Guitar with an "under soundboard" Piezo Pickup tended to produce some false note, whereas my Electric Guitar was much more accurate. Any tips where to look/settings to resolve that problem? Thanks
I am glad to hear you get minimal latency, to begin with. That is one of those things people generally struggle a bit with initially. The trick is, of course, to relearn playing guitar with the MIDI Guitar software, anticipating everything by as much as the latency delay the output. Somewhere between 15 - 20 ms ( the equivalent of standing six meters away from your amp while playing). The 2.2.1 version is indeed the current, as it has been for a few years now. JamOrigin is working on the next generation (MIDI Guitar 3 and Guitar MODs) right now, and those will be what comes next. I have a small part as QC in that process, and I just made a video on the status of the MPE part of that next-generation stuff. th-cam.com/video/pPqPrIo70Cs/w-d-xo.html The accuracy is much more of a picking problem than a settings problem, in my experience. Try to learn and play without tampering too much with noise gate (I keep mine at zero usually). This is where you need to be patient. Take one note at a time to begin with. Learn to start, and more importantly STOP every note without triggering other notes. Don't go directly into chords to begin with. check what intervals work for you. MIDI Guitar 2.2.1 can't translate the minor second interval, so don't use that in any chords, and leave the more complex chord until later. I am usually suggesting you start with all three knobs in the MIDI Velocity Box at twlve'o'clock to begin with. As I said before, easy does it. Don't rush it. You will only become frustrated. And furthermore, if you can, use a third party piano AU/VST instead of the Test piano. It is much better to use something more dynamic to start out with. Otherwise, all notes will be represented on the same dynamic level and you won't be able to learn to avoid anything, as everything comes through. Best of Luck
@@lofileif Thanks for all the useful tips and information. I think Jam Origin probably counts themselves fortunate to have you contributing to QC. You clearly know what you're doing.
You're a wizard, Harry. I've got a question, can I use it to control an external synth? I have a Komplete 6 interfase that has midi out. Is was wondering if that could be able. Thanks and your sounds are amazing
Thanks a million for the nice comment 🙏🙏🙏And of course you can. MIDI Guitar 2 has MIDI OUT, and it works just as well to send to your DAW, any standalone software, or external hardware! 👍
Thanks a lot for your response @lofileif. I just downloaded the app for my iPad, I have an second generation iPad pro paired with Komplete 6 AU. However the latency is huge and the tracking is really poor. I have experience with EHX POG2 and TC Electronics Quintessence the tracking sometimes missed but in this case, not even close. Where should I start tweaking?
Ok, so one thing to keep in mind is that there IS latency. Some you mitigate by tweaking some settings, but not all. The bigger hurdle in the beginning is usually lack of patience. You may have to rethink what and how you play somewhat. I did this video on the subject of settings and latency, that could be a place to start: th-cam.com/video/hHY9CysF4Dc/w-d-xo.html This is made for desktop computer so it will contain advice on setting not available to you on the iOS version. But most of it is though. Start there, get yourself a good dry software instrument to start practicing with, and be really careful with your picking - stop every note from ringing before going to the next as an initial exercise. (Make sure you use good wired monitoring for the iPad. No Bluetooth stuff ever for audio. Good luck
@@lofileif thank you very much for your help and your time. I’m gonna check that video and hopefully it’s just a matter of configuration. I rebooted mi iPad just in case and hopefully I can get better results. Thanks again
Oh my gosh! I'd love to try this, I've installed the demo version but cannot figure out how to get it setup and cannot seem to find a simple tutorial that tells how to get it working!! AAARRRGGGHHH!!!
Hi David! Not shure if this helps as a first introduction, but there are at least a couple of things worth knowing in this video: All about MIDI Guitar 2 settings, tracking, and latency th-cam.com/video/hHY9CysF4Dc/w-d-xo.html I can probably help you with some further questions as well, but that will have to wait, since it is in the middle of the night here now! 😴👍
Thank you so much Leif. I have some basic proficiency with VSTs but for some reason am having trouble figuring out how to get MG2 up and going. I just posted a query in the Jam Origin Forum about needing a simple, basic tutorial. I've been watching your many excellent TH-cam videos with wonder and amazement. Oh my gosh! What an amazing development! Not sure if you're the person who developed MG2 but if you are, your work is incredible! Thank you SO much! I've been waiting for this since I played my first guitar synth (the Roland GR-300) many years ago and through the many iterations of the concept. And thank you for your offer to help me further. Should I post questions here or is ther another way to contact you? (I'm planning to purchase MG2 but wanted to try the demo first to see how I do with it.) @@lofileif
Hey David! Sorry about the late answer. Have you had any sucess in getting MG2 to work at all? I am no Cakewalk user but you should probably be a bee to get the standalone version to work first, just to get your head around the software itself. I am NOT the developer (JamO in the forum is the guy you are looking for). I am just a guitar player like anyone else, but with a special interest in MIDI guitar, and especially this software. I found some time to explore it a little myself luckily, as I was missing that same introduction or manual everyone does. So I can try to help you from my limited perspective, not knowing the ins and outs of every DAW, but at least having a relatively solid grasp of the main functions of the software itself! Want to chat? LoFiLeif on Instagram. Rather use mail? lofileif@yahoo.se
Hello thank you for the demonstration!! could I ask, do you think you would be able to sing with a microphone into MIDI Guitar 2 and control a VST rather than playing a guitar?
Well, if you are REALLY good at keeping pitch, I guess you could. I am not, with would explain why I haven't even tried. But you know what, there is a free trial version here www.jamorigin.com/download/ If you do try it, please get back to me with how it came out?😀🤝
@@lofileif This is my question too. I will probably download the trial to experiment with it. I can’t tell what the limitations are on the trial, but I’ll give it a go
Thanks a billion man! 🙏🙏🙏Most people don’t seem to be that interested in this part of the MIDI Guitar handling. Kudos! It is just as important as correct settings and/or great software instruments. 👍
Hi. MIDI Guitar 2 (and now 3- look for the newer videos on my channel) is a plugin host in its own right. So you can record the output of MG2/3 with any of your VST/VSTi instruments or effects in it, in a DAW. You then just open MG2 on an audiotrack and Record. But you can also use the plugin version to just convert your guitar audio into MIDI and record the MIDI on an INSTRUMENT MIDI track - using your own plugins there. Either way, yes. You can use your own plugins with MG2/3. 👍
Hola! Exlente video! Aunque tengo una duda, aunque conecto mediante interfaz me sigue generando latencia, y cuando le bajo aun mas me genera el famoso "crasheo" o "bug" ahora mi pregunta, como puede correrla decentemente con un ipad? Yo pensaba mejorar mi pc añadiendo un procesador mas potente o algo asi. O todo es cuestion de mejorar la interfaz? Gracias!
Hi! First of all, latency is impossible to eliminate from this pitch-to-MIDI translation. This software analyses your incoming guitar signal, so the is always going to be a little gap between you picking a note to what you hear coming back to you out of the speakers. I have a couple of videos on this subject, and although gear is important your audio interface is not the most important part. A fast computer is WAY more important for a fast response. Check out the se two videos where the first one is about Tracking and MIDI Guitar 2: th-cam.com/video/hHY9CysF4Dc/w-d-xo.html and the second one is about the new version, MIDI Guitar 3: th-cam.com/video/x_OUNKdIE20/w-d-xo.html None of these are describing setting up with an iPad though. I have other videos where I use that, but I would not expect latency to be less of an issue on an iPad, rather the opposite. Check the video description for what gear I am using, if I am not clear enough in the videos: th-cam.com/video/_PUpkHkHotY/w-d-xo.html
Great Rundown as always! I’m interested in the Plus pedal set up with dual instances of MG2. I’ve been struggling to set up a split pickup and followed your much appreciated advice on noise gate settings for the bass strings. Now it looks like the split of left and right channels is not operating in AUM on ipad or iphone. Perhaps it’s a limit of ios? I’ve tried all routing options and so far as I can see the two channels from my dual interface (TC Helicon Go Twin) do not separate the pickup signal left and right ( top three strings and bottom three strings)for MG2. To confuse the situation even more they work perfectly for all AUV3 effects such as delay, reverb etc. It’s only MG2 and AUV3 instruments that seem to defy the left / right routing. Each channel routes all six strings to the AUV3 instrument. Any ideas of a work around? I’ll post here in future if I figure it out! Cheers, Anthony McGrath (Scotland)
Re the TCHelicon Go Twin question I posted: I seem to have solved my own problem…not sure why the interface was mixing two discrete signals but I started a new set up on ipad and it worked fine. Checked it on iphone and it was mixing the signals…so I airdropped the ipad set up to the phone and alls well! Apart from not understanding why it went wrong? 🤣 Anthony McGrath
Hey Anthony! I am glad to hear you found a solution yourself because I wouldn't have been able to help you much. Too many unknowns; TC Helion Go Twin (don't have= don't know), Aum - haven't really worked with (I have it though) 😬 But if you are interested in the plus pedal, did you check this out too?: th-cam.com/video/8EgWVgprIec/w-d-xo.html
Hi, I love the concept of the Origin MIDI Guitar 2 software, but as guitar player playing live, is there a device with the Midi Guitar 2 software built-in for use on a pedalboard? I am unable to bring computer to the gig. Thank you and I love your video.
Absolutely the full version! There is so much more options avalible IF you want to step outside GB at some time. But that is me, (I hate to give advise like this becase I know nothing about the circumstances.)🤷♂️
This looks very cool. I was looking at another brand, but... But I am not a guitar player. Will this software work on other instrument inputs? Eg Moog Theremini as input instrument? Version 3?
Hey! Sure, this is absolutely cool. But I would be rather hesitant to recommend it to a Theremini player, mostly because I haven’t got a clue if it would work or not. The good thing is that there is a free trial version: www.jamorigin.com/download/ I would be most interested to hear from you again, if you try it. It is always exiting with experimental non conventional uses. 😀🤝
Hi Arnold! If you are asking, does this software work for electric bass, the answer is a partial yes. MIDI Guitar comes bundled as two pieces of software in one purchase, where MIDI Bass is the second one. MIDI Bass is also purely Monophonic, which means it won't track chords or any intervals etc. If you want to try it there is this trial version on the JamOrigin site: www.jamorigin.com/download/
Thanks Leif for a quick answer 😊 I will try this, for sure. I do want to try the MIDI Guitar 2 as well, because of the polyphony, so, I wonder if that will work, by playing the bass through it in stead of the guitar. I am a bass player, but I also play guitar a bit in my own way. I am also using Ableton 11, and that’s how I found your video and channel. I subscribed and I will check out your channel for more videos. You are so clear when you explain things 👍 which is awsome, and you are a great player too 👍 totally musical 😊
@@arnoldludvig6900 Thanks for those kind words. Yes, the MIDI Guitar software will of course pick up on anything pitch related you feed it with, but it is limited in range. It is developed to work for a traditional 6 string guitar between the Low E (also drop D) and up to the 6th string 23 fret D# (for some reason?). The bas register that overlap with the guitar is obviously going to trigger ok, but for the rest, you can use MIDI Bass on another audio track. So you use both software in tandem (it works).
@@arnoldludvig6900 And another reason to try the MIDI Guitar software for you is of course that it tracks bends, which the MIDI Bass software doesn't do. And for fretless Bass, I would like to advise you to use Bend Range 12 on both MIDI Guitar and the synth/instrument you are playing to get the most out of it! 👍
Great video! (as always, I'd say) I have a question about how you succeeded in playing one note and having a chord (min.5.55). That is maybe the greatest thing you can do when your chords are a bit sloppy and MG2 cannot tell what you are trying to play.
I think you are referring to my using the sustain pedal. It sort of lets every note ring out in a way, and create chords or contexts from the remaining resonating sounds for as long as you press down your sustain pedal. So, for the appearance of any big chord, you just press the pedal and play the constituting notes. Check out the full video at: th-cam.com/video/b9Ws7MLi0gg/w-d-xo.html
@@lofileif Oh .. thank you! I did not get the sustain pedal part because I have never owned one and I was thinking that there is some software that makes the chords for you.
Do you have any videos on how to setup an expression pedal to say control modulation on an instrument? An example would be dynamics of a string library
@@lofileif id just like to know how to connect an expression pedal and use it with the software. It would be for playing orchestral libraries like ‘Spitfire’ and controlling dynamics/expression with the pedal
Yes, sure! There is an audio and a MIDI part to MIDI Guitar 2, And you play them separately from one another, or together if you like. There is a mix button to set the levels between them.
Quality will vary with setup, depending on what kind of pickup you use, but yes. I should work. Starting out with MIDI Guitar 2 - Can I use any old guitar? th-cam.com/video/LjFNtiLM6P4/w-d-xo.html
Thanks a million! You should absolutely try it, but take you time with it and don't get discouraged if you feel it is somewhat hard to dial in initially. We all do, or did. If you want some tips on where to start with settings, please have a look at th-cam.com/video/hHY9CysF4Dc/w-d-xo.html Have fun!
@@lofileif I gave MIDI Guitar 2 a shot today and referenced the link you mentioned. I'm finding it unusable for my interests. I don't have any interest in playing soft synths, or piano with my guitar, instead I want to get all the MIDI data from my performance and send it into a program called Kyma. I've played around with the settings, but I haven't been thrilled with the data I'm getting. I also didn't realize it doesn't offer MPE yet. One big problem is that I seem to be getting a bunch of "hanging" notes. Any thoughts or suggestions? Does the software function differently as standalone vs. plug-in? Thanks!
@@SpectralEvolver No, there is no difference. If you also looked at my setting video, you have all the secrets. The rest is practice. It is not mastered in a day, and spurious notes will be however clean you play. They don't necessarily have to be an issue, unless you are feeding them to some other software that multiplies or amplifies them? But practice and patience are the two important things here. MPE will come with MG3 (I don't know when).
Hey, I wouldn’t dream of telling anyone what they should buy! The whole of internet is full of bad advice like that. I have no idea of your background, setup, intention for how to use this technology, or any of that stuff that matters. I have been helping JamOrigin out in the ongoing development of the next generation of this software, so I can absolutly help answer any specific questions you might have, if you want to compare systems. But I can’t in good conscience just hand out any blanket statement advice on what to purchase without knowing anything. I hope you understand.
Sure, if you can set up your RD-88 to recieve MIDI from your computer. No problem! 👍(To be clear - You still play your guitar into your computer, where MIDI guitar 2 convert the AUDIO to MIDI, that it then send out to wherever you want it)
hello, if used with a 8 string e-guitar (in order to play classical piano music) do you think would it automatically pick the notes of the 7/8 string, like adjust to the pitch automatically and go down below lets say E2? ( i ask this because i see in the app is just a 6 string settings)
Hi Francesco! I know for a fact that it doesn’t track any notes below D2, and hence is not suitable for extended range instruments. MG3 might be a better match, but it is still not decisively proven yet either, I am afraid. You can run MIDI Bass in tandem with MG2 to get acess to the lower range strings though. But be aware that MIDI Bass itself is monophonic, so no low chords on the two lower strings (for 8 string).
Yes! The Midi Guitar software comes bundled with a MIDI Bass version as well. But due to the problems of tracking conversion the lower we go in frequencies, MIDI Bass is ( as of now) only monophonic and doesn’t allow for bends. Sorry for the late response! 😬
I don’t have any such tutorial, but it is very easy. Set up MIDI Guitar 2 in standalone mode, with MIDI OUT activated in MIDI Fx. In Chordie you just choose MIDI Guitar as MIDI in. 👍
Hej Leif, helsåld efter att ha sett din video! förutom audio interface måste jag även installera en DAW? Vill bara ha ljuden och kommer att koppla in till min BOSS RC 500 loop system. Tack på förhand! Antonio
Tjena Antonio! Kul att höra att du gillar det här. Behöver du en DAW? Näe, inte egentligen. MG2 är en fristående mjukvara OCH funkar som plugin i en DAW. Så börja utan, du kan ju alltid lägga till annat senare! Testa trial versionen. Det är gratis och du får testa hur länge du vill. Det enda man måste göra är att klicka på en ”fortsätt testa” knapp med jämna mellanrum. 👍
I downloaded the free Shreddage 3. Also have Kontakt 7 player. Tried MG2 with it but can't get it to work although MG2 works fine with GarageBand and Cakewalk. Is there something on the interface side I need to look at? Great video btw 👍
So, how are these instruments not working? You mention that Mg2 works fine with GB and Cakewalk, are you opening these instruments inside those DAWs, or are you working in standalone here? Please be as detailed as possible with regard to your setup, it makes troubleshooting so much easier. What system (mac/pc) Mg2 in standalone or plugin and so on. I don’t think you should have any trouble getting any sound out of them, but I am sceptical about the playability of shreddage from personal experience.
@@lofileif Not sure where my earlier reply went. Apologies for the delayed reply. I use Windows 10 with a Line 6 UX audio interface. MG2 works fine as a plugin with Cakewalk. I am using MG2 as a standalone with Shreddage 3 (S3) and can see input signals on MG2. The only device I see on S3 is the Line 6 UX2 which is selected under the device option and the driver is set to ASIO. There seems to be no output on the audio interface from the guitar though. A stupid question, is S3 available as a plugin? If so, that'd solve my problem.
@@GMTunes As I am exclusively a Mac user I can't help with anything concerning ASIO drivers issues. I recommend you check the Forum out if you have any such questions. ( jamosapien.com/latest ) But when it comes to the Shreddage S3, I guess we are talking about the "Shreddage 3 Stratus Free The ultimate FREE electric guitar sample library for KONTAKT PLAYER!" from Impact Soundworks? I haven't tried it yet myself but it seems to come as a Kontakt Player instrument? And Kontakt (instruments) should open as plugins inside MG2. Did you try rescanning MG2 "PLUGINS" after installing Shreddage? You should be able to find Shraddage among your instruments once you've done so I would imagine.
PS. Just installed it to check! No problems here. It appears as a tab in Kontakt (I have the Full version though, but that shouldn't matter) A bit clunky and sluggish but hey, it is FREE. 😀
@@lofileif Thanks. Yes, its the Status Free that I downloaded but well. Loads up on the Kontakt player and my midi keyboard works but not the MG2. Tried scanning for VSTs but can't see it on the MG2 list. Will check the forum as you suggested. Thanks again.
Very interesting. I recently ordered the Game Changer Audio Bigsby Pedal. Have you tried that with MIDI Guitar? I’m thinking that might work well with it.
This pedal RECIEVE (only) CC massages/commands (only) MIDI Guitar make one CC (Pitch Band) only Use this pedal for example - with Breath controller etc. and/or with sequencer
Just took a peek at a demo of course that pedal. It looks really interesting. If the pitched output of that is as clean as the wet (sampled) output was on my Plus pedal, you might just have a real gem on its way to you. MIDI Guitar2 don’t work too well (at all) with polyphonic bends, but you can bend one note at a time and have the dry output go to another instance of MG2 like my Plus experiment, and I wouldn’t be surprised to hear you getting some really cool results. And when MG3 comes along you can combine both outputs into it as it should support polyphonic bends as well!
I use the cheapest stuff myself (Focusrite Scarlett Solo & the 2i4) just so I don’t ruin myself whenever I need to buy a new one. I used to go for the more expensive ones, but as Apple kept switching ports, no longer supporting Firewire or whatever, I decided to go the other way, and I can’t say I experience any difference from a MIDI Guitar perspective. So I really can’t give any great advise above and beyond that, I am afraid. 🤷♂️👍
Hi! I think you are looking at/comparing two different versions? Apple store sells the iOS version, whereas the 150$ is for the full desktop version, if I am not mistaken. And wheater or not it is too expensive? I use this software every day, and have been since 2017, when I purchased it. It was 99$ back then, but it wouldn’t matter much to my assessment now. I would have been equally as happy with it for 150, I think. It is of course a question of how much you use it, that sort of decides I think. 👍
@@lofileif Good evening. They should in this case make a 2nd version only midi converter, without the useless and low end sounds, and that would be cheaper. In Europe 150$ are converted into 180 euros! which is very expensive for a small consumer software like this! It's a bit cheaper than logic pro! for a considerable difference. I can't wait for the competition! Thanks in any case and hello from Paris (France) Good music.
@@equinox6314 Well, I don't think we are paying that much extra for those JamOrigin labeled "Entry level synths and effects on board" you find useless and low end. What you do get is a very competent Audio-to MIDI converter with a lifetime license and a free update to the next version included. But I am also keeping my eyes on any serious competition. So if you find something interesting, be sure to let me know too! 😀🤝
I want to connect my guitar to my arranger keyboard, so when I change chords on guitar it changes the Chords on the keyboard. Is there a midi guitar pickup that can connect directly into keyboard midi port.
Hi Jay! Well, you could use pretty much every existing MIDI guitar solution to send MIDI from your guitar to your keyboard, if your keyboard have some sort of MIDI In capabilities. You don't need a special pickup for that, you can just route the MIDI out of the computer or MIDI interface directly into the keyboard. If you don't want to use a computer in the middle you need a controller (MIDI Guitar) that sends MIDI on its own, like a Jamstik for instance. No pickup you put on your guitar will turn it into a self sufficient MIDI controller device. But why do you want this? Is it a synth (on not just a keyboard), with its own sounds you want to play? If you give me a hint as to how you are intending to use this, I could give you a more detailed opinion on what would be the best option for you:
@@lofileif I want to use the sounds from my synthesizer Korg PA5X like pads, piano, strings using guitar as a controller. I have an electric PRS guitar.
Well, you can obviously use the JamOrigin software solution if you don't want to drill holes in your PRS guitar (you can of course use some sort of adhesive tape too). That is the solution featured in the video. You seem to have a five pin DIN input for MIDI IN on your synth so you should be fine. You could even connect your synth wirelessly via bluetooth with something like the WIDI Uhosts if you don't like the idea of a lot of cables. I have videos on that too. 👍
@@lofileif ok I will try that. So I will connect my guitar to computer via usb interface, jamorigin will convert guitar to midi, then midi out from computer to midi in to Korg synth. This solution would be no midi pickups required else I will have to go with something like Roland GR55 with their proprietary pickup. Jamorigin has a free trial I am going to try that first. Thanks so much for your valuable advice.
Hi! Well, you can of course use it already to some degree but it is not optimized for violin yet. So you should perhaps not expect the same exact results as a guitar player using this software gets. There is said to be a MIDI Violin tracker for the next version of this (MG3) in the making. I don't know when this is ready for release though, but if you are interested to try how much you can do with the software today already, there is a free trial version at www.jamorigin.com/download/ It has a time-out function on it that you just click to reset, every few minutes. other than that you can use it for how long you want!
@@lofileif Oh thanks for your help I am a violonist but at the moment I am playing an electric octave mandolin with GR55 and was thinking of having an electric midi violin (zeta or cantini ) on GR55, but when I saw your videos , sure I "change my projects . Going to buy an interface audio and try this sofware, seems to me much more real sounding . I wonder what will do my violin into the SWAN strings system ..
Ok, I could get it to open, but I can't get the VST3 to play (since I haven't paid for it). It should work in VST2, Audio Unit or standalone mode though. Another thing is of course the Plugin search in MG2. Have you done a new search since you downloaded that plugin? Try the "Scan one file option" and you should at least get it to open. 👍
Make sure you use the VST file and not the VST3 file to begin with. If you hear your guitar (and don't want that) 1) make sure you don't have anything loaded in the Guitar section slots. Deep FX, Both Amp/Fx, and Cabinet should all say "NONE". 2) The MIX button controls the relationship between the synth and the guitar sound. Turn it all the way up (showing RED only) to be sure. If your guitar still sounds it is your audio interface that has a Direct input/monitoring setting you need to find and take a look at.
Any chance you have a list of which Boss midi-guitar controllers support the individual single string channel method? GP-10 (as you have demonstrated) and SY-1000, any others? Is the Re-Amp feature the key component required?
Hi Jimmy! Sorry, but I haven’t used anything BOSS/Roland (besides the GP-10) after my GR55. I actually don’t use any of their technology per se, but instead only the fact that I can connect my 13-pin equipped guitars into it and get 8 channels out. From that I am only using the per-string-audio as I showed in the video. So the only feature I use is really the 6 channel audio over USB into the computer. No Re-Amping or COSM or anything else. Just the 6 clean signals into six audio tracks. So if any other unit has that particular feature, you should be able to use that as well. But this is nothing I can speak of, since I don’t have those, unfortunately! 🤷♂️
How would you get your audio into the app without any audio interface? I would say you need an audio interface. It doesn’t need to be an expensive one, but you need something!
I ' have tried with my "electric 5 strings octave mandolin" tuned from bass to treble C-G-D-A-E but in the monophonic mode I Can't have the 4 first notes , it only start at the low E (as the guitar E).In the polyphonic mode it works from the low C , but cant'do any chords ..Any remedies ?
Hi! Yeah, the software is by default tuned to regular 6-srring guitar tuning. You can tune it down to a D, but not lower. Look in the tunings box in the tracking section for this. I can't get my MG2 to track below D in polyphonic mode, You can use MIDI bass for those lower notes, and if you use it side by side with MIDI guitar you can send both sets of MIDI to an instrument in a DAW that will register and play all incoming MIDI. It works, but it isn't flawless, I am afraid. It is not a setup I would use for more than experimenting with. But, on the other hand, maybe you have better luck?
@@lofileif Thanks for your help .. Yes , very good its works on the Bass version for mylow C and C# but infortunatly works only in monophonic and can't do any chords. Concerning using both version in a DAW , I am not enough experimented for the moment , but the idea is fine !
@@krisnamurtienvacances2651 Exactly MIDI Bass is monophonic. That is why you should use both MIDI Bass and MIDI guitar at the same time. Then you track everything in the normal register Polyphonically and just add the bass register notes on top of this. Send both MIDI streams to the same instrument and you will have something like a polyphonic tracking of the whole mandolin. (No bends in the Bass register though)
@@lofileif Hi Thanks for your help , , it is precious ..Well indeed it works, playing midi guitar and midi bass together , a bit tricky and complicated , any way I can manage and get without these two notes C and C# ..Plus the bass version do'n't give me the very high notes . I have another question if you don't mind.. I saw you can use pianoteq 8 in midi guitar 2 and also swam instrument ,very good sounds , but I am also interested in "world " instruments as Duduk, , oud , bouzoukis , persian instruments , harmonium etc ..etc ... I wonder if you know if these : Impact soundworks Evolutionseries Ethnaudio Will also be compatible and "ll be reconize by midi guitar 2 ? Could be so fantastic
Use it with a computer, iPad or phone, and you have a hardware version. Send MIDI via Bluetooth, WIFI device, or by physical cable to your Roland synth. A Classical (nylon string) is not optimal as a controller. The software tracks a brighter tighter tone way better. Not saying it is not going to work though. There is a trial version if you are interested in trying it out for yourself: www.jamorigin.com/download/
Well, I’d strongly recommend a dedicated audio interface for tracking purposes. Better signal, better AD/DA conversion, less latency. With that said, I use the 3,5 jack on my iPad for that very purpose. So yes, it works. But an actual external interface works better. 😀👍
@@lofileif Thank you for replying this quick. And thank you for the info. I'm an old school small local music producer, so, my equipment is, well, ancient. 😅 I still use cakewalk sonar producer, lol. And creative soundcard. It works wonder for what i've been doing all this while. But, sometimes, i want to try something new. I cant seem to get how to get this midi guitar 2 to function in cakewalk. 😓😓
@@bisaular5333 Have you tried the (JamOrigin) MIDI Guitar/Bass Forum? jamosapien.com/latest Just do a search for cakewalk there and I am sure there are a few guys before you who have posed questions on that subject already. That is where I go for almost all my MIDI Guitar 2 knowledge. ( You'll see me answering a few questions there as well, but mostly on Mac, Logic, and Abelton related stuff.) There is also a DAW guide on that page: www.jamorigin.com/docs/daw/#plugin
If I am performing live with a pedalboard, how would I be able to use this as well? For example, if I want to perform “Careless Whispers” I would record the guitar with my looper pedal then I would like to play the saxophone with Midi Guitar 2...how would I set it up with my pedal board.
Well, all links to all the stuff I use are in the respective video descriptions for you guys, but of course: I use the TEControl BBC2 www.tecontrol.se/products/usb-midi-breath-bite-controller-2
Absolutely! In the beginning you probably will need to edit out some unwanted MIDI though. And perhaps you need to go in and add some extra articulations too, depending on what synth/virtual instrument you are using. th-cam.com/video/uZoYCFMkq9o/w-d-xo.html
Well, I’m sure it depends a lot on what circumstances you are working with, but there is no general reason for it not to be. There is some amount of latency in this setup and that is certainly something you don’t want to experience live for the first time, so I would recommend a good deal of practice before bringing it on stage for the first time!
I'm not getting any sound, the MIDI Velocity isn't moving. None of my other software have issues with my guitar. Cubase doesn't recognize it as a plug-in either.
I don't use Cubase so I am not sure how the actual setup looks, but how are you set up to begin with? Mac, PC? And if Cubase doesn't recognize it, are you opening it as standalone? Have you ever had it working? Is it the trial version?
@@lofileif it's the trial version. I use Windows 10(haven't upgraded to 11 yet) and a Scarlett Solo audio interface. My midi controller keyboard works perfectly fine, my amp simulators work perfectly fine. I tried changing the audio interface setting alas to no avail.
@@lofileif Cubase won't let me import it as a plugin, I scanned the folder that it's located in too(program files). Standalone doesn't recognize any sound because the MIDI velocity doesn't move. My guitars work on every other software(Bias FX, Neural DSP, and Cubase).
@@penguindrum264 Would you consider taking this diskussion to the MIDI Guitar forum? jamosapien.com It is easier to explain stuff there as we can post screenshots as well, plus that we have the whole community there. If there is something specific about your setup that I am missing, there is always someone there to pick up that.
Work is very much being done on it, but there are still no dates set for release. We have been working on MPE implementation for one thing. Did you have a chance to look at this already? th-cam.com/video/pPqPrIo70Cs/w-d-xo.html
You can, but personally I wouldn’t. You CAN reassign the kit instruments mapping in SD3, and you will be able to play it with your guitar, but a big part of learning to play with MIDI Guitar 2 is about stopping notes from ringing, and the hardest ones would be the open strings. You already har a slight delay in the response, the MIDI conversion process latency, and adding the least precise triggers (open strings) to the mix, is probably not the best thing to do. Use the trial version (www.jamorigin.com/download/) and try for yourself. Maybe you won’t think it is a problem at all? Good luck😀👍
Hey man, I work with somewhere around 20ms of (roundtrip) latency whenever I use MIDI Guitar 2 (depending on what VST I am using). You would would feel it initially, but get use to it after a while. 👍
Hi, thanks for the explications. Very thorough! I wonder if guitar midi 2 could help me with this: Could I play pizzicato on my cello (it's actually for bass parts) and have midi guitar 2 translate that into midi to triggering samples of pizzicato double bass. All in real time. I have a sensor mic that can be taped directly on the wood that would not pickup the other instruments.
Hi there! MIDI Guitar picks up on (all) pitch information within the (standard 6 string) guitar range, so translating anything that overlaps between the cello and the guitar is possible. Now, a piezo or contact mic on the cello is of course better than a room mic for this, but the resonance of the cello is a pretty big part of its character. And it is just that kind of resonance that usually makes it problematic to get clean distinct translations. And if your goal is to translate cello to bass in real time, I wouldn't dare promise you a flawless result, but you can certainly try for yourself. There is a free demo at www.jamorigin.com/download/ If you do try, please let me know how it worked out. 😀👍
@@lofileifThanks for your answer. Does this mean that any pitch below the range of the guitar cannot be translated? I understand what you mean about the issues for translation by the resonance. I will try to EQ or process in some other way to limit the resonance. Anyway, the sound of the sensor pickup is only needed for the midi translation. I can amplify the cello with a normal mic..
This video must go to recommendations at least 1000x times more! Really awesome tutorial on how to do some advanced MIDI stuff using just guitar and a software
😀 You are free to tell everyone you know about it too! 🤝 Thanks man! 🙏
You sure blown my mind Leif, this is game changing. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
Sorry about your mind, but I am glad you found it interesting! 😀👍
This is the most informative video on Midi Guitar 2 that I have seen. I am more skilled at Bass and Guitar than a Midi Keyboard and my session work requires a high level of musicianship. So with Midi Guitar 2 it is possible to deliver tracks to clients in any style of music using todays excellent virtual instruments. Thank you so much for taking the time to share your knowledge and experience using Midi Guitar 2.
Thank you Joseph. 🙏 Yeah, give MIDI Guitar 2 a little time, and you have a really powerful Swiss-Army-knife like tool for all your studio work! 😀👍
Absolutely the BEST channel for tutorials and info on MIDI guitar! I've learned so much just by watching your videos, thanks so much for sharing your knowledge!
Thanks a million Alex! Truly apprechiated! 😊🙏👍
Super - and exactly what I was looking for. I really like the breadth of your demonstrations. Everyone can find themselves somewhere in there. I'm a rock, blues, jazz guitarist looking to write for orchestras but my keyboard skills are very light. This looks perfect.
Yes, MIDI Guitar2 has really helped me achieve a lot of different projects in styles (and with techniques) I wouldn’t have dared to even dream of without it. It has been a constant source of inspiration from day one really. There’s a trial version on the JamOrigin page, to let you get a feel for if it is something for you as well. 😀👍
Great insight and phenomenal playing!
Thank a million! Much apprechiated! 🙏🙏🙏
Apologies for a late reply. I use Windows 10 and a Line 6 UX audio interface. Mg2 works fine with Cakewalk as a plugin. In the standalone mode, I get to hear all the instruments that come with Mg2. I have registered Shreddage 3 with Native Access. Once S3 is opened, I see the interface but can't hear anything. In the Audio option of S3, I see ASIO and ASIO UX2 as driver and device. Sample rate is 44100. The interface on MG2 shows ASIO UX2 with the latency at 256@44.1
Whoa, I didn't know this existed! I'm so glad, I found this!!! I definitely need to try this before buying the midi JamStik Studio!
Well, if you didn't know, now you do! 😀👍
@@MichaelFinBarrMurphy Sure! Here it is. www.tecontrol.se/products/usb-midi-breath-bite-controller-2
@@MichaelFinBarrMurphy Hey, if you want to know a little something more about it: th-cam.com/video/fnj5Q_kjpdM/w-d-xo.html
Excellent.There are guitar players and guitar players.This guy is humble but has an incredible talent.I have been playing Midi guitar for years but i must say those saxes and wind instruments with the mouth controller are so real its unbelievable.if you close your eyes you could not tell the difference.Well done! A great asset to guitar Midi players.The pianos still sound strange on a guitar but the rest thumbs up.
Thank you! Much apprechiated! 🙏🙏🙏
Thank you for such detailed clarity - and wonderful playing. I've struggled with all forms of guitar-MIDI controllers over the 'decades'. MIDI Guitar 2 looks like a keeper.
Thanks, James! I have also had high expectations on what a MIDI Guitar setup could bring to the table, but I had almost given up hope on it when I discovered this software a few years ago. And if you think MIDI Guitar 2 looks great, you are not going to be dissapointed by the next generation of this software. Not out yet, and I can’t give you a timeframe, but man, it is good! 😀👍
Hi what about more groove oriented playing where timing is important. Like playing with rhythms in funk and pop stuff. How is tracking timing?
@@lofileif
@kennethwilliams4725 Well, you have the latency in the software. That is a factor. The question if whether you learn to handle it lies in practice. Tracking itself is definetly fast enough for most types of genres! It is all about the process of learning how to play this ”new” instrument (midi guitar), recalibrating your old skills of using the controller (guitar) for new purposes!
@@lofileif is the amount of latency equivalent to a hardware MIDI guitar synth? Can you tell me how much latency there is?
@kennethwilliams4725 I don’t have any such reference unfortunately! I have only used the Roland system with the hex PU/Gk system before this. You have a round trip latency measureing about 20ms for the low E string. But as I said, the amount of latency is not a problem. You learn to compensate for that with practice. Like a reed player switching between different instruments, with different sized columns of air required, affecting the rapidness of response. If it aligns with your expectations it is not an issue.
The Best video of 2022 for guitarists :)
Wow! Thank you so much!! 🙏🙏🙏
Wow! That's awesome. I play guitar and saxophone so adding the wind controller would be really fun to try.
Thanks! You absolutely should! 👍
Brilliant My friend. Love your playing and your sensitivity for creation. Your skills and musicality are stellar. Thank you for turning on
the lights.
Thank you, Freddy! Much apprechiated! 🙏🙏🙏
I use midi guitar 2 to play acoustic guitar over MainStage sounds bank. Actually I play with "full orchestra" and "church choir" as the midi sounds in the background, and my guitar as the main instrument.
Thank you so much Leif, this is mind-blowing. From this I think we can be confident that anything is possible, that MG2 is totally amazing (not to mention your superb use of it) and that any problems I may encounter are likely to be of my own making 😂.
I basically use MG2 live at church and on the streets, sending my acoustic guitar into my iPhone via iRig 2. I use the MG2 onboard amp models/reverb/cabs with the midi going to AudioKit’s Synth One to provide strings. Like you I use a very simple transmitter/receiver pairing to send the total output to my audio amp.
Alternatively, in intimate living room environments, I often link the iRig 2 output via a very short cable to a Bluetooth speaker in my jeans’ back pocket. The iRig 2 comes with a belt loop which means it’s so easy to keep the iPhone in a front jeans pocket.
For switching presets live I use IK Multimedia’s BlueBoard.
My setup is incredibly simple and very cheap and although I’m way, way below the amazing standard you set Leif, I wanted to share it to encourage folk like me for whom MG2 can be such a huge blessing.
Thanks again for this wonderful video and all you do on the forum! 🍾❤️
Thank YOU Mike! 🙏🙏🙏 I am happy to hear there are a few more of us that don’t consider this software to be merely a gimmick, or a glorified toy. And furthermore that actually use this in our everyday lives. The more testimonials like yours here, people get to read, the more convincing it makes the case for a small company product like MIDI Guitar, so again: Thank you Mike!
How well would this work in a live situation? Is there latency that would make it difficult live? Thanks!
Well, I would probably use MIDI Guitar 3 over MIDI Guitar 2, since the tracking allows for a greater variety of synths (MPE included). The latency in itself is depending more on what softwre instrument you are using. Some are unplayable, and some feel like a natural extension of your guitar. Monitoring will also play a big part live, I guess. Best is if you test the software out for yourself, to see if it fits your style and needs: You can find the beta versions of MG3 here: www.jamorigin.com/beta/
If you still rather go for MG2: you can download them in trial mode as well: www.jamorigin.com/download/
Have you considered the cycfi pickups? I think they could be better (s/n, fidelity) than the Roland as they are designed to be a audio source and each coil is active and humbucking. Also since you seem to be running down almost every possible interface are you considering leap motion? Keith McMillan instruments has presets for the leap motion and mixing for the Kmix mixer.
Really appreciate your spirit and generosity in this channel
Hi, and thanks a million for the tips. Yep, I have been looking long and hard at the cycfi PU:s, and I agree. I believe those would probably work better than the Roland stuff. If nothing else, they will have a dedicated place on your guitar. Almost as if they were designed to be there you know? 🤣 I've never understood those sharp edges on the Roland hexPU:s (even the integrated ones) and the awful little cable on the external GK3 set. But money is probably the reason for why I don't have any NUmultis yet. I would love to test how great they actually are, but I can't justify a purchase just for a test right now. And the Leap Motion stuff I had in the shopping basket a few years ago, but something came up, and I never went ahead with that purchase. It is interesting, but as a guitar player I got my hands full already, and I haven't figured out a way to make use of that while playing? I've used the free MusiiKraken, to test some gesture control stuff, but nothing has come out of that yet either. But still, really interesting stuff!👍
@@lofileif the Cycfi only gets expensive when you add the robust cabling and integrated “normal” pickup tone/pot breakout box solution. $170 plus some DB-9 cabling custom direct to your 6 daw inputs could be under $210 plus labor.
Good point about the hands 😂 I’ll take it out of my eBay search list now… there is an idea of using the Face ID iPhone camera and facial motion cap to drive expression based expression. Also, the melt my face off jokes just write themselves… But those face mo cap phone helmets look ridiculous.
I'm so glad this channel exist.
Makes me glad to hear! 😀👍
thanks ! is amazing to discover this tool! ive been waiting for it !!! so sad i just find it! by the other hand am happy now i did!
It is never too late to get started! 😀👍
Very cool demo, insightful, and you have great talent, my friend!
Thanks a million 🙏🙏🙏
Just to say, as a beginner to using Midi2Guitar, this is a great overview. I will look at the M2G forum, but think I am correct that even with my M1 iPad Pro 12.9”, I cannot replicate the multi-M2G track approach you have performed with? I don’t have a hex pickup, but that’s not an M2G issue - unless I miss my mark, M2G for iOS, iPadOS, strictly operates as the standalone running, then you start up GarageBand (or Cubasis, Auria Pro, or others) and so it’s a single track deal. I tried to run the AUv3, but it’s not a direct comparison to a desktop plugin it seems, in GB iOS, it is merely an effect, so you cannot produce MIDI from it, hence multi-track in iOS is a non-starter I think. But hey, it’s a wonderful and high-value piece of software, and I am not rushing to buy a hex pickup anyway! Thank you for the music as they say! Take care all.
Hey there! You are right in that this is not a setup for iPad, for a few reasons. First, I use a Boss GP-10 as an 8 channel audio interface for the hex-pickup’s audio separation. And that GP-10 needs a driver which isn’t possible to use with the iPad at this point. You could perhaps use a breakout cable directly into a minimum 6 channel audio interface to the same effect though. I displayed an example layer with Camelot Pro and MIDI guitar2 in plugin mode on six layers, and I do think that you would be able to do on the iPad too. But I certainly wouldn’t be rushing off to by buy a hexPU for that either! Thanks for stopping by though, and hope there was other stuff in here that tickeled your fancy too! 😀👍
Helvete vilken bra och användbar video! Blir definitivt att jag skaffar mig MIDI guitar 2 (och kanske en breath controller också)
Kul att höra att du gillade den. Om du inte har använt MIDI Guitar 2 eller breathcontroller tidigare, så har jag precis gjort två ännu mer detaljerade videor på ämnena. Kolla dom om du är intresserad. Du kan ju börja med att ladda ner Prov versionen av MIDI Guitar 2 så du ser om det är något du känner att du vill jobba med? www.jamorigin.com/download/
your horn stuff sounds amazing
Thanks a bunch! Much appreciated! 🙏🙏🙏
Hey man. Anyone that can play that well and made a whole video endorsing a product has my attention. I read the comments before asking this: I own GK3 and GR55. It's great but I want to be all software. Regarding MG2, I need the hexaphonic pickup set up for minor 2nds and string separation. I thought GRk3 needs additional processor to create MIDI to the interface but Fishman FTP does not? I saw one comment that the Gk3 or FTP with MG2 is not suitable for "live" playing (studio only) and did not understand that. I have faith in MG3 whenever it is ready. So what pickup should I use and what interface helps that 13pin signal go into 6 DAW channels? (I don't do fancy expressions but might get a breath controller after seeing you play !). That Coltrane you were playing one one of the videos was awesome!
Also, I need killer sitar, oud, koto and other 'world' sounds. I found them for GR55 but do you have soft/plugin recommendations? I guess I'll read up on how the MG3 plugin has sounds added...or maybe it pulls form other sound banks live? I hope to do my whole automated Ableton show from an iPad... maybe a small laptop and get rid of my GR55, vocal processor, beat buddy, aeros looper, mixer and 2,389 cables!
Hey Joe! Thanks for stopping by. If you really feel you need that string separation, and you want to go this "old school" (HexPU 6 channels audio OUT to six instances of MG2,) you need something like the GP10, the SY-1000, or a breakout cable solution. The 6 instances of MG2 placed on 6 separate tracks in your DAW is what does the conversion to MIDI. You don't want to use the Roland/Boss protocol. FTP on the other hand does the conversion and separate strings all in one, but again, a pretty dynamically flat conversion and triggering is uneven at best. Has been regarded as the fastest alternative with regard to latency though.
I can understand any apprehensiveness to use any of the existing MIDI solutions live, but I have been occupied with testing MG3 for some time now, and it is better in so many respects, I can't see anyone use anything else in the near future. But that remains to be seen of course. But for those that are strongly against a computer on stage, the struggle will of course continue. I will not be one of them. 😀 so for now (if you like the 13 pin system) use any of your old GK pickups, but instead of committing to some archaic system with drivers updates you have no control over, get something like this: www.separate-strings.co.uk/breakout%20cables%20and%20more.html
and a 6 channel audio interface. As long as that interface can connect to your computer (skip firewire) you are good. Have a look at this: th-cam.com/video/pYsS1uzQNak/w-d-xo.html
and consider perhaps GigPerformer rather than a traditional DAW. Much more flexible for stage. I don't know about the world sounds really. I would like some myself. I have the Kontakt ones, but Kontakt is generally pretty clumsy to work with, and I have been eyeing stuff like UVI World Suite 2. But since I don't have that I can't say anything. I prefer to speak from experience, rather than what TH-camrs tell me. They usually have some monetary incentive to not be fully committed to any truth of sorts, unfortunately. So you need to do your due diligence also with regard to what I am saying here. 😉👍
Hey brother! This a phenomenal video! Really inspiring! Would you be able to share a comprehensive list of all the Plug-ins and virtual instruments that you recommend? Aswell as what breathcontroller you were using? Much appreciated 🙏
Hey! Thanks a bunch for stopping by! Most of my other videos are videos showcasing great plugins for MIDI Guitar2, and I usually have all gear listed in the description. Here is a place to start for anyone interested: MIDI Guitar 2.2.1 - Best plugins 2022
th-cam.com/video/B3PP2ZXWyP8/w-d-xo.html
@@lofileif Thanks so much! I've been watching all of your videos for the last few hours...I'm hooked haha. Could you name specifically where you sourced that Duduk and Arabic Oud sound that was in one of your other videos? Those links didn't seem to lead to them. 🙏
All good! Found my answers in that video :)
Totally talented !
How very kind! Thank you! 🙏🙏🙏
Thank you for making this video, this blew my mind, such a game changer!
I am glad to hear you liked it! Thanks, man! 😀🙏
Great video, thanks. Is Midi Guitar 2 compatible with the new Apple M1 chip?
Absolutely! I have a Mac Studio with the M1 Max and it works beautifullly!
That's bizarre dude. I wonder how something like this would function for beat making for more modern types of music. Portability is nice too. I like to walk and play. Sometimes I end up entertaining random people, other times I end up collaborating with random people. The more function I can bring to these performances the better they will be. Could your portable set up be used to record as well?...thanks for the demo.
Hi man! Sure, the mobile setup can surely record stuff even on the move. Just use an iOS DAW like cubaseor something similar. I use the same wireless setups for both desktop computers and iPhones/iPads. I have a lot of videos featuring these setups here on this channel. 😀👍
how to change my sound preset like a digilat multi effect for a gigs.??
If you want to change a MIDI Guitar 2 preset to another preset you can use any footcontroller pedal that can send PC (Program Change) messages. If you want to change a patch in some multi effect that you have opened inside MIDI Guitar 2, it is not assignable via the app itself, I am afraid.
Thanks for the rundown. Very helpful!
Thank YOU 👈🙏
Thank you so much for the generous information!
I am a fingerstyle guitarist and I am very interested in getting into midi guitar playing for the different instrument sounds I can play on one guitar and so I need your guidance.
Currently I've got a Yamaha Pacifica 112j for my electric guitar and a Fender CD-60CE for my Electric Acoustic Guitar, I don't have a Digital Audio Interface at the moment but I do have experience. What's a good setup for starting with Midi Guitar playing?
I was considering buying the Jamstik Studio MIDI Guitar, do I need a digital audio interface to use it? If so what should I get?
If I buy the MIDI Guitar 2 Software, I'm guessing I need to buy a digital audio interface to use it with my current Yamaha Pacifica 112j, would that be a better/cheaper option than buying the Jamstik Studio MIDI Guitar?
Basically I am ready to invest into this new space of guitar playing for me, what's the ideal setup? I just really wanna be able to play piano and saxophone sounds on my guitar.
Your feedback would be appreciated!
Hi Kareem! Glad to hear from any finger-style guitar player that is interested in MIDI Guitar. I've advocated a hybrid picking approach for users of the MIDI Guitar software for the longest time since more fingers equal more control. And you certainly need precision and control to make it work. To begin with, you will need an audio interface for whatever setup you choose. It doesn't matter if you go with the hardware solution (Jamstik)or the software (JamOrigin's MIDI GUitar2). Both need a computer to work really. I assure you can argue that you could use the Jamstik MIDI out and hook it up directly to a synth or sound source of any kind, but you'd be missing out on everything that make this a powerful setup. You won't close to as great sounding saxes or pianos in any stock sounds from any synths. So yes, you need an audio interface. But you don't need to ruin yourself. I use Focusrite Scarlett interfaces, which are rather cheap, and I have no issues with sound quality or tracking speed from those. There is going to be some degree of latency in the setup, whatever setup you choose. Look at this video for tis on how to handle that with the MIDI Guitar 2 software. th-cam.com/video/hHY9CysF4Dc/w-d-xo.html
More than that, what you have is probably already good enough to get started with. You don't need a DAW (digital audio workstation) to try the MIDI Guitar 2 software. Just downloaded the trial version here:www.jamorigin.com/download/
Try it before you buy it, and if you after testing it believe it is worth the money to instead purchase a Jamstik, you are at least better equipped by having tested the competition. I won't be arguing for any of the alternatives, since I want it to be your decision. But again, I like for it to be an informed decision. Both will certainly do the job.
@@lofileif Appreciate the valuable feedback! I went ahead and ordered a Focusrite Scarlett, I’ll be buying the software as well.
I’ve got a few questions regarding the software:
1. How many total different sounds are available to use?
2. Is there a saxophone option on MIDI Guitar 2? How can I play saxophone on my guitar?
3. How can I loop with this setup? Do I need a physical looper or software looper.
Thanks in advance mate!
@@kareemtarawneh5058 Hi Kareem! A lot of questions there, so I’ll get right into it:
1. As many as your computer can tolerate. If you are talking about ”internal sounds” from MG2 itself, I don’t know. I don’t use them. I use it only as a MIDI translation device.
2.There is no saxophone in MG2. Any serious alternative will be some external vst at this point. If you want to use something like the SWAM instruments, this is a place to start: Where to start with the new SWAM Woodwinds v3 and MIDI Guitar 2.2.1 - Pt. 1, In detail walkthroughhttps:
//th-cam.com/video/NbUF_EunPEE/w-d-xo.html
3. I’ve never actually used a looper, but I don’t see why you couldn’t use either: physical hardware or software or both in combination.
Very informative (as always). I'd love to hear you interpret some of the first movement of the Sibelius violin Dm concerto. With the instruments in your library and the breath controller, I'd imagine you could create a very convincing version.
Thanks a million! Yeah, I have actually already veered towards Sibelius with this new Divisimate Orchestral stuff, so it is certainly an interesting idea. I will absolutely look into it, thanks for the inspiration. 😀🙏
You are a genius! Thank you for this insight.
Thank you🙏🙏🙏Well, if you liked this version, you should really take a look a the MG3 that is about to be released soon. th-cam.com/video/SX0jdGMSGcY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=BQQicln9TbLAO2wb
Thanks a lot for that! You're just amazing, Sir. God bless you and yours!
Thanks a million, and God bless 🙏🙏🙏
Purchased MIDI Guitar years ago when it in was still Beta. Later acquired a GR-55 and SY-1000 and find MIDI Guitar 2 is better! I can play MIDI Guitar 2 (from any guitar) into/through Roland XV-5050, Integra7, Kronos LS88 - magic!
I agree! I haven't used any of my hardware (except for my GP-10, as a 6 channel over USB interface), after I found MG2. I guess you bought it before me? I think I have my receipt from January 2018! 😃 I think I may have ran it of and on as a demo, for a couple of years before that too though. Great stuff 👍
@@lofileif I looked it up. Purchased MIDI Guitar as Beta in Feb 2013, now I feel even older 😯 - stay well, stay happy!
@@quantummechanic7836 You were just an early adopter! Nothing wrong with being an OG in this case! 😀👍 - Thanks, and the same to you 👈
Impressive video. So basically midi guitar for strumming doesn’t work well? Was hoping to strum chords and run them through various plugins for synth pads and soundscapes.
Thanks! Well, while MIDI Guitar 2 doesn't work that well for strumming, the next version (MIDI Guitar 3), which is being worked on as we speak, does. I have no date for its release, but I am helping out in the testing process, and you can watch a few of the videos where I talk about MPE and MIDI Guitar for a little preview. 😀👉 th-cam.com/video/kC1LFhFCZXE/w-d-xo.html
@@lofileif thanks for your time. 😊 Strumming would really open up this world for what many people want to achieve. Please demo strumming / Ebow for controlling synths in future videos.
I have three new videos on MPE Synths. Look at the Pianoteq part in this one, and I am sure you'll see the potential. th-cam.com/video/kIdKXeowMKg/w-d-xo.html
@@lofileif thanks. Will do.
Hej! Tack för alla tips. 3:52 Det instrumentet låter väldigt realistiskt!
Hej Rördrom! Kul att du gillar just det: en altsax som är superhårt EQad för att låta så gammalt som det gick att få det, knaster och allt! 👴👍
I didn't know that it existed
THANK YOU
My pleasure! Happy Holidays! 🎅🏻🎄🎁
Excellent video. I've known about JamOrigin MIDI Guitar for a while, but this is by far the best demonstration of its capabilities I've seen. I think I need to download the Trial version an see if it will work on my old computer. That was an extremely helpful video. Thanks! 😎
If you haven’t tried yet, You absolutely should. Please take into consideration that some patience is often needed initially to get past those first hurdles. Take it slow in the beginning, it will pay off in the end! 👍
@@lofileif I found that I had downloaded and installed Version 2.2.1 back in March, but for some reason, was too busy or couldn't get it to work. I'm using an HX Stomp as my Audio Interface, and have read some comments about some problems getting it to work. I launched MG 2, and it seems to be working fine so far, minimal latency. Will have to explore it more. Is 2.2.1 the current Version. I'm trying to determine how actively Jam Origin is in maintaining and developing their products.
I tried the Test Piano. My Classical Guitar with an "under soundboard" Piezo Pickup tended to produce some false note, whereas my Electric Guitar was much more accurate. Any tips where to look/settings to resolve that problem? Thanks
I am glad to hear you get minimal latency, to begin with. That is one of those things people generally struggle a bit with initially. The trick is, of course, to relearn playing guitar with the MIDI Guitar software, anticipating everything by as much as the latency delay the output. Somewhere between 15 - 20 ms ( the equivalent of standing six meters away from your amp while playing). The 2.2.1 version is indeed the current, as it has been for a few years now. JamOrigin is working on the next generation (MIDI Guitar 3 and Guitar MODs) right now, and those will be what comes next. I have a small part as QC in that process, and I just made a video on the status of the MPE part of that next-generation stuff. th-cam.com/video/pPqPrIo70Cs/w-d-xo.html
The accuracy is much more of a picking problem than a settings problem, in my experience. Try to learn and play without tampering too much with noise gate (I keep mine at zero usually). This is where you need to be patient. Take one note at a time to begin with. Learn to start, and more importantly STOP every note without triggering other notes. Don't go directly into chords to begin with. check what intervals work for you. MIDI Guitar 2.2.1 can't translate the minor second interval, so don't use that in any chords, and leave the more complex chord until later. I am usually suggesting you start with all three knobs in the MIDI Velocity Box at twlve'o'clock to begin with. As I said before, easy does it. Don't rush it. You will only become frustrated. And furthermore, if you can, use a third party piano AU/VST instead of the Test piano. It is much better to use something more dynamic to start out with. Otherwise, all notes will be represented on the same dynamic level and you won't be able to learn to avoid anything, as everything comes through. Best of Luck
@@lofileif Thanks for all the useful tips and information. I think Jam Origin probably counts themselves fortunate to have you contributing to QC. You clearly know what you're doing.
You're a wizard, Harry. I've got a question, can I use it to control an external synth? I have a Komplete 6 interfase that has midi out. Is was wondering if that could be able. Thanks and your sounds are amazing
Thanks a million for the nice comment 🙏🙏🙏And of course you can. MIDI Guitar 2 has MIDI OUT, and it works just as well to send to your DAW, any standalone software, or external hardware! 👍
Thanks a lot for your response @lofileif. I just downloaded the app for my iPad, I have an second generation iPad pro paired with Komplete 6 AU. However the latency is huge and the tracking is really poor. I have experience with EHX POG2 and TC Electronics Quintessence the tracking sometimes missed but in this case, not even close. Where should I start tweaking?
Ok, so one thing to keep in mind is that there IS latency. Some you mitigate by tweaking some settings, but not all. The bigger hurdle in the beginning is usually lack of patience. You may have to rethink what and how you play somewhat. I did this video on the subject of settings and latency, that could be a place to start: th-cam.com/video/hHY9CysF4Dc/w-d-xo.html This is made for desktop computer so it will contain advice on setting not available to you on the iOS version. But most of it is though. Start there, get yourself a good dry software instrument to start practicing with, and be really careful with your picking - stop every note from ringing before going to the next as an initial exercise. (Make sure you use good wired monitoring for the iPad. No Bluetooth stuff ever for audio. Good luck
@@lofileif thank you very much for your help and your time. I’m gonna check that video and hopefully it’s just a matter of configuration. I rebooted mi iPad just in case and hopefully I can get better results. Thanks again
@@lofileif just to thank you for your help. It's working great now. Thanks for replying to my comments!
Thanks for your video very appreciated; just one information: could you give me an indication about jazzdrum used in a part of your demo ?
Sure, what part?
in the autogenerative backing tracks around 09:30 minuts from the beginning; thanks
@user-xm1zn9hp6w Right, so that is the Straight Ahead Samples ”Jazz Drums” I am using right there. www.straightaheadsamples.com/sa-jazz-drums
thanks
Thank you so much !!! You are an exceptional musician. Thanks for the tips. Extremely helpful
Thank YOU for taking the time to listen, and also for the nice comment! 🙏🙏🙏
Oh my gosh! I'd love to try this, I've installed the demo version but cannot figure out how to get it setup and cannot seem to find a simple tutorial that tells how to get it working!! AAARRRGGGHHH!!!
Hi David! Not shure if this helps as a first introduction, but there are at least a couple of things worth knowing in this video: All about MIDI Guitar 2 settings, tracking, and latency
th-cam.com/video/hHY9CysF4Dc/w-d-xo.html
I can probably help you with some further questions as well, but that will have to wait, since it is in the middle of the night here now! 😴👍
Thank you so much Leif. I have some basic proficiency with VSTs but for some reason am having trouble figuring out how to get MG2 up and going. I just posted a query in the Jam Origin Forum about needing a simple, basic tutorial. I've been watching your many excellent TH-cam videos with wonder and amazement. Oh my gosh! What an amazing development! Not sure if you're the person who developed MG2 but if you are, your work is incredible! Thank you SO much! I've been waiting for this since I played my first guitar synth (the Roland GR-300) many years ago and through the many iterations of the concept. And thank you for your offer to help me further. Should I post questions here or is ther another way to contact you? (I'm planning to purchase MG2 but wanted to try the demo first to see how I do with it.) @@lofileif
Hey David! Sorry about the late answer. Have you had any sucess in getting MG2 to work at all? I am no Cakewalk user but you should probably be a bee to get the standalone version to work first, just to get your head around the software itself. I am NOT the developer (JamO in the forum is the guy you are looking for). I am just a guitar player like anyone else, but with a special interest in MIDI guitar, and especially this software. I found some time to explore it a little myself luckily, as I was missing that same introduction or manual everyone does. So I can try to help you from my limited perspective, not knowing the ins and outs of every DAW, but at least having a relatively solid grasp of the main functions of the software itself! Want to chat? LoFiLeif on Instagram. Rather use mail? lofileif@yahoo.se
Hello thank you for the demonstration!! could I ask, do you think you would be able to sing with a microphone into MIDI Guitar 2 and control a VST rather than playing a guitar?
Well, if you are REALLY good at keeping pitch, I guess you could. I am not, with would explain why I haven't even tried. But you know what, there is a free trial version here
www.jamorigin.com/download/
If you do try it, please get back to me with how it came out?😀🤝
@@lofileif This is my question too. I will probably download the trial to experiment with it. I can’t tell what the limitations are on the trial, but I’ll give it a go
This man is an hybrid picking guru 😮So good 👍
Thanks a billion man! 🙏🙏🙏Most people don’t seem to be that interested in this part of the MIDI Guitar handling. Kudos! It is just as important as correct settings and/or great software instruments. 👍
Hello,
Can I use another VST plugins and sounds while using Midi guitar software or just the JamOrigin presets?
Hi. MIDI Guitar 2 (and now 3- look for the newer videos on my channel) is a plugin host in its own right. So you can record the output of MG2/3 with any of your VST/VSTi instruments or effects in it, in a DAW. You then just open MG2 on an audiotrack and Record. But you can also use the plugin version to just convert your guitar audio into MIDI and record the MIDI on an INSTRUMENT MIDI track - using your own plugins there. Either way, yes. You can use your own plugins with MG2/3. 👍
@@lofileif perfect! thanks!
Hola! Exlente video!
Aunque tengo una duda, aunque conecto mediante interfaz me sigue generando latencia, y cuando le bajo aun mas me genera el famoso "crasheo" o "bug" ahora mi pregunta, como puede correrla decentemente con un ipad?
Yo pensaba mejorar mi pc añadiendo un procesador mas potente o algo asi. O todo es cuestion de mejorar la interfaz?
Gracias!
Hi! First of all, latency is impossible to eliminate from this pitch-to-MIDI translation. This software analyses your incoming guitar signal, so the is always going to be a little gap between you picking a note to what you hear coming back to you out of the speakers. I have a couple of videos on this subject, and although gear is important your audio interface is not the most important part. A fast computer is WAY more important for a fast response. Check out the se two videos where the first one is about Tracking and MIDI Guitar 2: th-cam.com/video/hHY9CysF4Dc/w-d-xo.html
and the second one is about the new version, MIDI Guitar 3: th-cam.com/video/x_OUNKdIE20/w-d-xo.html
None of these are describing setting up with an iPad though. I have other videos where I use that, but I would not expect latency to be less of an issue on an iPad, rather the opposite. Check the video description for what gear I am using, if I am not clear enough in the videos: th-cam.com/video/_PUpkHkHotY/w-d-xo.html
Bro this is amazing
Thanks 🙏 🙏🙏It is a great tool indeed! 👍
Great Rundown as always! I’m interested in the Plus pedal set up with dual instances of MG2. I’ve been struggling to set up a split pickup and followed your much appreciated advice on noise gate settings for the bass strings. Now it looks like the split of left and right channels is not operating in AUM on ipad or iphone. Perhaps it’s a limit of ios? I’ve tried all routing options and so far as I can see the two channels from my dual interface (TC Helicon Go Twin) do not separate the pickup signal left and right ( top three strings and bottom three strings)for MG2. To confuse the situation even more they work perfectly for all AUV3 effects such as delay, reverb etc. It’s only MG2 and AUV3 instruments that seem to defy the left / right routing. Each channel routes all six strings to the AUV3 instrument. Any ideas of a work around? I’ll post here in future if I figure it out! Cheers, Anthony McGrath (Scotland)
Re the TCHelicon Go Twin question I posted: I seem to have solved my own problem…not sure why the interface was mixing two discrete signals but I started a new set up on ipad and it worked fine. Checked it on iphone and it was mixing the signals…so I airdropped the ipad set up to the phone and alls well! Apart from not understanding why it went wrong? 🤣 Anthony McGrath
Hey Anthony! I am glad to hear you found a solution yourself because I wouldn't have been able to help you much. Too many unknowns; TC Helion Go Twin (don't have= don't know), Aum - haven't really worked with (I have it though) 😬 But if you are interested in the plus pedal, did you check this out too?: th-cam.com/video/8EgWVgprIec/w-d-xo.html
Hi, I love the concept of the Origin MIDI Guitar 2 software, but as guitar player playing live, is there a device with the Midi Guitar 2 software built-in for use on a pedalboard? I am unable to bring computer to the gig. Thank you and I love your video.
Hi, and thanks! No, there is no hardware version of the MIDI Guitar 2 software at the moment. Sorry!
There is an app version on iOS. So you can run it on a phone or I pad live.
Do you recommend buying the full or for GarageBand version if planning to use for GarageBand?
Absolutely the full version! There is so much more options avalible IF you want to step outside GB at some time. But that is me, (I hate to give advise like this becase I know nothing about the circumstances.)🤷♂️
@@lofileif that was my thought too. Going to stick with GarageBand until I prove to myself I’m going to use it consistently.
This looks very cool. I was looking at another brand, but... But I am not a guitar player. Will this software work on other instrument inputs? Eg Moog Theremini as input instrument? Version 3?
Hey! Sure, this is absolutely cool. But I would be rather hesitant to recommend it to a Theremini player, mostly because I haven’t got a clue if it would work or not. The good thing is that there is a free trial version: www.jamorigin.com/download/
I would be most interested to hear from you again, if you try it. It is always exiting with experimental non conventional uses. 😀🤝
Thank you for this video 🙏🏽👍 does this also work for electric bass?
Hi Arnold! If you are asking, does this software work for electric bass, the answer is a partial yes. MIDI Guitar comes bundled as two pieces of software in one purchase, where MIDI Bass is the second one. MIDI Bass is also purely Monophonic, which means it won't track chords or any intervals etc. If you want to try it there is this trial version on the JamOrigin site: www.jamorigin.com/download/
Thanks Leif for a quick answer 😊 I will try this, for sure. I do want to try the MIDI Guitar 2 as well, because of the polyphony, so, I wonder if that will work, by playing the bass through it in stead of the guitar. I am a bass player, but I also play guitar a bit in my own way. I am also using Ableton 11, and that’s how I found your video and channel. I subscribed and I will check out your channel for more videos. You are so clear when you explain things 👍 which is awsome, and you are a great player too 👍 totally musical 😊
@@arnoldludvig6900 Thanks for those kind words. Yes, the MIDI Guitar software will of course pick up on anything pitch related you feed it with, but it is limited in range. It is developed to work for a traditional 6 string guitar between the Low E (also drop D) and up to the 6th string 23 fret D# (for some reason?). The bas register that overlap with the guitar is obviously going to trigger ok, but for the rest, you can use MIDI Bass on another audio track. So you use both software in tandem (it works).
@@arnoldludvig6900 And another reason to try the MIDI Guitar software for you is of course that it tracks bends, which the MIDI Bass software doesn't do. And for fretless Bass, I would like to advise you to use Bend Range 12 on both MIDI Guitar and the synth/instrument you are playing to get the most out of it! 👍
You are more than welcome
Great video! (as always, I'd say)
I have a question about how you succeeded in playing one note and having a chord (min.5.55). That is maybe the greatest thing you can do when your chords are a bit sloppy and MG2 cannot tell what you are trying to play.
I think you are referring to my using the sustain pedal. It sort of lets every note ring out in a way, and create chords or contexts from the remaining resonating sounds for as long as you press down your sustain pedal. So, for the appearance of any big chord, you just press the pedal and play the constituting notes. Check out the full video at:
th-cam.com/video/b9Ws7MLi0gg/w-d-xo.html
@@lofileif Oh .. thank you! I did not get the sustain pedal part because I have never owned one and I was thinking that there is some software that makes the chords for you.
@@songs... Sorry, no software this time! 😀👍
Do you have any videos on how to setup an expression pedal to say control modulation on an instrument? An example would be dynamics of a string library
Not yet, but I am going to do one this week. So any specific questions you might have are most welcome!😀✍️
@@lofileif id just like to know how to connect an expression pedal and use it with the software. It would be for playing orchestral libraries like ‘Spitfire’ and controlling dynamics/expression with the pedal
Can I play the original, dry audio of the guitar simultaneously with a midi synth pad?
Yes, sure! There is an audio and a MIDI part to MIDI Guitar 2, And you play them separately from one another, or together if you like. There is a mix button to set the levels between them.
@@lofileif also one final question? Will the software work well with the piezo pickup of an acoustic guitar?
Quality will vary with setup, depending on what kind of pickup you use, but yes. I should work. Starting out with MIDI Guitar 2 - Can I use any old guitar?
th-cam.com/video/LjFNtiLM6P4/w-d-xo.html
Which midi guitar 2 did you download? The middle option or the one to the right that says garageband?
I am using MIDI Guitar 2.2.1 (that is the desktop version - not the garageband)
Excellent video! You are one talented person. I'm going to give it a try!
Thanks a million! You should absolutely try it, but take you time with it and don't get discouraged if you feel it is somewhat hard to dial in initially. We all do, or did. If you want some tips on where to start with settings, please have a look at th-cam.com/video/hHY9CysF4Dc/w-d-xo.html
Have fun!
@@lofileif I gave MIDI Guitar 2 a shot today and referenced the link you mentioned. I'm finding it unusable for my interests. I don't have any interest in playing soft synths, or piano with my guitar, instead I want to get all the MIDI data from my performance and send it into a program called Kyma. I've played around with the settings, but I haven't been thrilled with the data I'm getting. I also didn't realize it doesn't offer MPE yet. One big problem is that I seem to be getting a bunch of "hanging" notes. Any thoughts or suggestions? Does the software function differently as standalone vs. plug-in? Thanks!
@@SpectralEvolver No, there is no difference. If you also looked at my setting video, you have all the secrets. The rest is practice. It is not mastered in a day, and spurious notes will be however clean you play. They don't necessarily have to be an issue, unless you are feeding them to some other software that multiplies or amplifies them? But practice and patience are the two important things here. MPE will come with MG3 (I don't know when).
wow! amazing video dude! thank you!
Thanks man! Glad you liked it! 🙏👍
Great info, thank you for doing this video!!
Thank you Rudy 🙏👍
I am waiting for violin version of this program :) 👍
Yes, it should come along with the next big update to MIDI Guitar 3! Really exciting stuff! 👍
does it track velocity? or all the notes come out with same velocity thanks a lot?
Hi Giordano! I tracks velocity! th-cam.com/video/hHY9CysF4Dc/w-d-xo.html 👍
Should I buy this or a midi pickup for the guitar? What do you think?
Hey, I wouldn’t dream of telling anyone what they should buy! The whole of internet is full of bad advice like that. I have no idea of your background, setup, intention for how to use this technology, or any of that stuff that matters. I have been helping JamOrigin out in the ongoing development of the next generation of this software, so I can absolutly help answer any specific questions you might have, if you want to compare systems. But I can’t in good conscience just hand out any blanket statement advice on what to purchase without knowing anything. I hope you understand.
Can I use this system to play my guitar into my Roland RD-88 to get the sounds on that keyboard?
Sure, if you can set up your RD-88 to recieve MIDI from your computer. No problem! 👍(To be clear - You still play your guitar into your computer, where MIDI guitar 2 convert the AUDIO to MIDI, that it then send out to wherever you want it)
hello, if used with a 8 string e-guitar (in order to play classical piano music) do you think would it automatically pick the notes of the 7/8 string, like adjust to the pitch automatically and go down below lets say E2? ( i ask this because i see in the app is just a 6 string settings)
Hi Francesco! I know for a fact that it doesn’t track any notes below D2, and hence is not suitable for extended range instruments. MG3 might be a better match, but it is still not decisively proven yet either, I am afraid. You can run MIDI Bass in tandem with MG2 to get acess to the lower range strings though. But be aware that MIDI Bass itself is monophonic, so no low chords on the two lower strings (for 8 string).
@@lofileif thats a pity, thank you
As far as you know, is there something similar for the electric bass?
Yes! The Midi Guitar software comes bundled with a MIDI Bass version as well. But due to the problems of tracking conversion the lower we go in frequencies, MIDI Bass is ( as of now) only monophonic and doesn’t allow for bends. Sorry for the late response! 😬
Great videos. Really important, thanks for your work. M
Thank you Martin! Really appreciate it! 🙏🙏🙏
How do you set-up Chordie so it picks up guitar midi? Any youtube tutorial links?
I don’t have any such tutorial, but it is very easy. Set up MIDI Guitar 2 in standalone mode, with MIDI OUT activated in MIDI Fx. In Chordie you just choose MIDI Guitar as MIDI in. 👍
Hej Leif, helsåld efter att ha sett din video! förutom audio interface måste jag även installera en DAW? Vill bara ha ljuden och kommer att koppla in till min BOSS RC 500 loop system. Tack på förhand! Antonio
Tjena Antonio! Kul att höra att du gillar det här. Behöver du en DAW? Näe, inte egentligen. MG2 är en fristående mjukvara OCH funkar som plugin i en DAW. Så börja utan, du kan ju alltid lägga till annat senare! Testa trial versionen. Det är gratis och du får testa hur länge du vill. Det enda man måste göra är att klicka på en ”fortsätt testa” knapp med jämna mellanrum. 👍
@@lofileif du är en hjälte! fantastisk input och jag ser fram emot att följa dig på din kanal!
@@AntonioPersson Stort tack Antonio. Och det är förstås bara att höra av dig om du har några frågor 😀👍
@@lofileif 🤘🤘
I downloaded the free Shreddage 3. Also have Kontakt 7 player. Tried MG2 with it but can't get it to work although MG2 works fine with GarageBand and Cakewalk. Is there something on the interface side I need to look at? Great video btw 👍
So, how are these instruments not working? You mention that Mg2 works fine with GB and Cakewalk, are you opening these instruments inside those DAWs, or are you working in standalone here? Please be as detailed as possible with regard to your setup, it makes troubleshooting so much easier. What system (mac/pc) Mg2 in standalone or plugin and so on. I don’t think you should have any trouble getting any sound out of them, but I am sceptical about the playability of shreddage from personal experience.
@@lofileif Not sure where my earlier reply went. Apologies for the delayed reply. I use Windows 10 with a Line 6 UX audio interface. MG2 works fine as a plugin with Cakewalk. I am using MG2 as a standalone with Shreddage 3 (S3) and can see input signals on MG2. The only device I see on S3 is the Line 6 UX2 which is selected under the device option and the driver is set to ASIO. There seems to be no output on the audio interface from the guitar though. A stupid question, is S3 available as a plugin? If so, that'd solve my problem.
@@GMTunes As I am exclusively a Mac user I can't help with anything concerning ASIO drivers issues. I recommend you check the Forum out if you have any such questions. ( jamosapien.com/latest ) But when it comes to the Shreddage S3, I guess we are talking about the "Shreddage 3 Stratus Free
The ultimate FREE electric guitar sample library for KONTAKT PLAYER!" from Impact Soundworks? I haven't tried it yet myself but it seems to come as a Kontakt Player instrument? And Kontakt (instruments) should open as plugins inside MG2. Did you try rescanning MG2 "PLUGINS" after installing Shreddage? You should be able to find Shraddage among your instruments once you've done so I would imagine.
PS. Just installed it to check! No problems here. It appears as a tab in Kontakt (I have the Full version though, but that shouldn't matter) A bit clunky and sluggish but hey, it is FREE. 😀
@@lofileif Thanks. Yes, its the Status Free that I downloaded but well. Loads up on the Kontakt player and my midi keyboard works but not the MG2. Tried scanning for VSTs but can't see it on the MG2 list. Will check the forum as you suggested. Thanks again.
OH GOD THANK YOU! redirecting everyone here
it's often difficult to explain. So that people keep trying
Please do! I have a hard time finding people that would be interested, so any help with that is greatly appreciated! 😀🙏🙏🙏
Very interesting. I recently ordered the Game Changer Audio Bigsby Pedal. Have you tried that with MIDI Guitar? I’m thinking that might work well with it.
Nope, haven’t tried it! How are you thinking of using it?
This pedal RECIEVE (only) CC massages/commands (only)
MIDI Guitar make one CC (Pitch Band) only
Use this pedal for example - with Breath controller etc. and/or with sequencer
Just took a peek at a demo of course that pedal. It looks really interesting. If the pitched output of that is as clean as the wet (sampled) output was on my Plus pedal, you might just have a real gem on its way to you. MIDI Guitar2 don’t work too well (at all) with polyphonic bends, but you can bend one note at a time and have the dry output go to another instance of MG2 like my Plus experiment, and I wouldn’t be surprised to hear you getting some really cool results. And when MG3 comes along you can combine both outputs into it as it should support polyphonic bends as well!
Do you have an audio interface you recommend?
I use the cheapest stuff myself (Focusrite Scarlett Solo & the 2i4) just so I don’t ruin myself whenever I need to buy a new one. I used to go for the more expensive ones, but as Apple kept switching ports, no longer supporting Firewire or whatever, I decided to go the other way, and I can’t say I experience any difference from a MIDI Guitar perspective. So I really can’t give any great advise above and beyond that, I am afraid. 🤷♂️👍
hello. On apple store it's written 39,95-0 $ but in fact it's 150$ (too expensive...) . Is it normal? Thank you
Hi! I think you are looking at/comparing two different versions? Apple store sells the iOS version, whereas the 150$ is for the full desktop version, if I am not mistaken. And wheater or not it is too expensive? I use this software every day, and have been since 2017, when I purchased it. It was 99$ back then, but it wouldn’t matter much to my assessment now. I would have been equally as happy with it for 150, I think. It is of course a question of how much you use it, that sort of decides I think. 👍
@@lofileif Good evening. They should in this case make a 2nd version only midi converter, without the useless and low end sounds, and that would be cheaper. In Europe 150$ are converted into 180 euros! which is very expensive for a small consumer software like this! It's a bit cheaper than logic pro! for a considerable difference. I can't wait for the competition! Thanks in any case and hello from Paris (France) Good music.
@@equinox6314 Well, I don't think we are paying that much extra for those JamOrigin labeled "Entry level synths and effects on board" you find useless and low end. What you do get is a very competent Audio-to MIDI converter with a lifetime license and a free update to the next version included. But I am also keeping my eyes on any serious competition. So if you find something interesting, be sure to let me know too! 😀🤝
Simply fascinating 👌
Thank you so much! 🙏 🙏 🙏
I want to connect my guitar to my arranger keyboard, so when I change chords on guitar it changes the Chords on the keyboard. Is there a midi guitar pickup that can connect directly into keyboard midi port.
Hi Jay! Well, you could use pretty much every existing MIDI guitar solution to send MIDI from your guitar to your keyboard, if your keyboard have some sort of MIDI In capabilities. You don't need a special pickup for that, you can just route the MIDI out of the computer or MIDI interface directly into the keyboard. If you don't want to use a computer in the middle you need a controller (MIDI Guitar) that sends MIDI on its own, like a Jamstik for instance. No pickup you put on your guitar will turn it into a self sufficient MIDI controller device. But why do you want this? Is it a synth (on not just a keyboard), with its own sounds you want to play? If you give me a hint as to how you are intending to use this, I could give you a more detailed opinion on what would be the best option for you:
@@lofileif I want to use the sounds from my synthesizer Korg PA5X like pads, piano, strings using guitar as a controller. I have an electric PRS guitar.
Well, you can obviously use the JamOrigin software solution if you don't want to drill holes in your PRS guitar (you can of course use some sort of adhesive tape too). That is the solution featured in the video. You seem to have a five pin DIN input for MIDI IN on your synth so you should be fine. You could even connect your synth wirelessly via bluetooth with something like the WIDI Uhosts if you don't like the idea of a lot of cables. I have videos on that too. 👍
@@lofileif ok I will try that. So I will connect my guitar to computer via usb interface, jamorigin will convert guitar to midi, then midi out from computer to midi in to Korg synth. This solution would be no midi pickups required else I will have to go with something like Roland GR55 with their proprietary pickup. Jamorigin has a free trial I am going to try that first. Thanks so much for your valuable advice.
@jaysidd Exactly like that! You are most welcome. Don’t hesitate to ask, if questions arise along the way! 🤝👍
May I use my acoustic violin with a Shertler (statV preamp) microphone ?
Hi! Well, you can of course use it already to some degree but it is not optimized for violin yet. So you should perhaps not expect the same exact results as a guitar player using this software gets. There is said to be a MIDI Violin tracker for the next version of this (MG3) in the making. I don't know when this is ready for release though, but if you are interested to try how much you can do with the software today already, there is a free trial version at www.jamorigin.com/download/
It has a time-out function on it that you just click to reset, every few minutes. other than that you can use it for how long you want!
@@lofileif Oh thanks for your help
I am a violonist but at the moment I am playing an electric octave mandolin with GR55 and was thinking of having an electric midi violin (zeta or cantini ) on GR55, but when I saw your videos , sure I "change my projects .
Going to buy an interface audio and try this sofware, seems to me much more real sounding .
I wonder what will do my violin into the SWAN strings system ..
I got OB-Xb (VST Oberheim) but i'm not able to find it with Midi 2 guitar. I know where it is but it's loading. It is because it's a VST3 ?
Ok, I could get it to open, but I can't get the VST3 to play (since I haven't paid for it). It should work in VST2, Audio Unit or standalone mode though. Another thing is of course the Plugin search in MG2. Have you done a new search since you downloaded that plugin? Try the "Scan one file option" and you should at least get it to open. 👍
@@lofileif It works thanks. Now the problem is how do i do to use it. It style on the sound of the Midi guitar 2. I want the sound of my VST. Thanks
Make sure you use the VST file and not the VST3 file to begin with. If you hear your guitar (and don't want that) 1) make sure you don't have anything loaded in the Guitar section slots. Deep FX, Both Amp/Fx, and Cabinet should all say "NONE". 2) The MIX button controls the relationship between the synth and the guitar sound. Turn it all the way up (showing RED only) to be sure. If your guitar still sounds it is your audio interface that has a Direct input/monitoring setting you need to find and take a look at.
@@lofileif Thanks alot!!!!!
Any chance you have a list of which Boss midi-guitar controllers support the individual single string channel method? GP-10 (as you have demonstrated) and SY-1000, any others? Is the Re-Amp feature the key component required?
Hi Jimmy! Sorry, but I haven’t used anything BOSS/Roland (besides the GP-10) after my GR55. I actually don’t use any of their technology per se, but instead only the fact that I can connect my 13-pin equipped guitars into it and get 8 channels out. From that I am only using the per-string-audio as I showed in the video. So the only feature I use is really the 6 channel audio over USB into the computer. No Re-Amping or COSM or anything else. Just the 6 clean signals into six audio tracks. So if any other unit has that particular feature, you should be able to use that as well. But this is nothing I can speak of, since I don’t have those, unfortunately! 🤷♂️
Do you know if you can use the app without the audio interface?
How would you get your audio into the app without any audio interface? I would say you need an audio interface. It doesn’t need to be an expensive one, but you need something!
I ' have tried with my "electric 5 strings octave mandolin" tuned from bass to treble C-G-D-A-E but in the monophonic mode I Can't have the 4 first notes , it only start at the low E (as the guitar E).In the polyphonic mode it works from the low C , but cant'do any chords ..Any remedies ?
Hi! Yeah, the software is by default tuned to regular 6-srring guitar tuning. You can tune it down to a D, but not lower. Look in the tunings box in the tracking section for this. I can't get my MG2 to track below D in polyphonic mode, You can use MIDI bass for those lower notes, and if you use it side by side with MIDI guitar you can send both sets of MIDI to an instrument in a DAW that will register and play all incoming MIDI. It works, but it isn't flawless, I am afraid. It is not a setup I would use for more than experimenting with. But, on the other hand, maybe you have better luck?
@@lofileif Thanks for your help .. Yes , very good its works on the Bass version for mylow C and C# but infortunatly works only in monophonic and can't do any chords.
Concerning using both version in a DAW , I am not enough experimented for the moment , but the idea is fine !
@@krisnamurtienvacances2651 Exactly MIDI Bass is monophonic. That is why you should use both MIDI Bass and MIDI guitar at the same time. Then you track everything in the normal register Polyphonically and just add the bass register notes on top of this. Send both MIDI streams to the same instrument and you will have something like a polyphonic tracking of the whole mandolin. (No bends in the Bass register though)
@@krisnamurtienvacances2651 I solved it like this a few years ago th-cam.com/video/kUsK8GUlv04/w-d-xo.html
@@lofileif Hi
Thanks for your help , , it is precious ..Well indeed it works, playing midi guitar and midi bass together , a bit tricky and complicated , any way I can manage and
get without these two notes C and C# ..Plus the bass version do'n't give me the very high notes .
I have another question if you don't mind..
I saw you can use pianoteq 8 in midi guitar 2 and also swam instrument ,very good sounds , but I am also interested
in "world " instruments as Duduk, , oud , bouzoukis , persian instruments , harmonium etc ..etc ... I wonder if you know if these :
Impact soundworks
Evolutionseries
Ethnaudio
Will also be compatible and "ll be reconize by midi guitar 2 ? Could be so fantastic
does anyone have a hardware version of this ? I want to control a Roland synth from a classical guitar
Use it with a computer, iPad or phone, and you have a hardware version. Send MIDI via Bluetooth, WIFI device, or by physical cable to your Roland synth. A Classical (nylon string) is not optimal as a controller. The software tracks a brighter tighter tone way better. Not saying it is not going to work though. There is a trial version if you are interested in trying it out for yourself: www.jamorigin.com/download/
Do you need a usb audio interface? Or can you use a standard 3.5mm audio jack as input to the computer? Like the old school sound card
Well, I’d strongly recommend a dedicated audio interface for tracking purposes. Better signal, better AD/DA conversion, less latency. With that said, I use the 3,5 jack on my iPad for that very purpose. So yes, it works. But an actual external interface works better. 😀👍
@@lofileif Thank you for replying this quick. And thank you for the info. I'm an old school small local music producer, so, my equipment is, well, ancient. 😅 I still use cakewalk sonar producer, lol. And creative soundcard. It works wonder for what i've been doing all this while. But, sometimes, i want to try something new. I cant seem to get how to get this midi guitar 2 to function in cakewalk. 😓😓
@@bisaular5333 Have you tried the (JamOrigin) MIDI Guitar/Bass Forum? jamosapien.com/latest Just do a search for cakewalk there and I am sure there are a few guys before you who have posed questions on that subject already. That is where I go for almost all my MIDI Guitar 2 knowledge. ( You'll see me answering a few questions there as well, but mostly on Mac, Logic, and Abelton related stuff.) There is also a DAW guide on that page: www.jamorigin.com/docs/daw/#plugin
If I am performing live with a pedalboard, how would I be able to use this as well? For example, if I want to perform “Careless Whispers” I would record the guitar with my looper pedal then I would like to play the saxophone with Midi Guitar 2...how would I set it up with my pedal board.
Hi man, I saw you posted on the forum as well. Hope some of those suggestions will work for you? 👍
Can you please link to your breath controller? Which one did you get?
Well, all links to all the stuff I use are in the respective video descriptions for you guys, but of course: I use the TEControl BBC2 www.tecontrol.se/products/usb-midi-breath-bite-controller-2
Very informative, thanks.
Thanks Jim! 🙏👍
Thank you. this is wonderful.
Glad you enjoyed it! Much appreciated!
So it can record MIDI notes in your DAW?
Absolutely! In the beginning you probably will need to edit out some unwanted MIDI though. And perhaps you need to go in and add some extra articulations too, depending on what synth/virtual instrument you are using. th-cam.com/video/uZoYCFMkq9o/w-d-xo.html
Is it good for a live gig?
Well, I’m sure it depends a lot on what circumstances you are working with, but there is no general reason for it not to be. There is some amount of latency in this setup and that is certainly something you don’t want to experience live for the first time, so I would recommend a good deal of practice before bringing it on stage for the first time!
@@lofileif thanks a lot sor
THANK YOU
I'm not getting any sound, the MIDI Velocity isn't moving. None of my other software have issues with my guitar. Cubase doesn't recognize it as a plug-in either.
I don't use Cubase so I am not sure how the actual setup looks, but how are you set up to begin with? Mac, PC? And if Cubase doesn't recognize it, are you opening it as standalone? Have you ever had it working? Is it the trial version?
@@lofileif it's the trial version. I use Windows 10(haven't upgraded to 11 yet) and a Scarlett Solo audio interface. My midi controller keyboard works perfectly fine, my amp simulators work perfectly fine. I tried changing the audio interface setting alas to no avail.
Ok, so you are using it as standalone?
@@lofileif Cubase won't let me import it as a plugin, I scanned the folder that it's located in too(program files). Standalone doesn't recognize any sound because the MIDI velocity doesn't move. My guitars work on every other software(Bias FX, Neural DSP, and Cubase).
@@penguindrum264 Would you consider taking this diskussion to the MIDI Guitar forum? jamosapien.com It is easier to explain stuff there as we can post screenshots as well, plus that we have the whole community there. If there is something specific about your setup that I am missing, there is always someone there to pick up that.
Is there any news about Midi Guitar version 3 ? I saw it on the website sinc e 2020, but it is not any update...
Work is very much being done on it, but there are still no dates set for release. We have been working on MPE implementation for one thing. Did you have a chance to look at this already? th-cam.com/video/pPqPrIo70Cs/w-d-xo.html
Can you use this with superior drummer 3 and record drum beats?
6th string as a bass drum and 5th as a snare for example
You can, but personally I wouldn’t. You CAN reassign the kit instruments mapping in SD3, and you will be able to play it with your guitar, but a big part of learning to play with MIDI Guitar 2 is about stopping notes from ringing, and the hardest ones would be the open strings. You already har a slight delay in the response, the MIDI conversion process latency, and adding the least precise triggers (open strings) to the mix, is probably not the best thing to do. Use the trial version (www.jamorigin.com/download/) and try for yourself. Maybe you won’t think it is a problem at all? Good luck😀👍
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Yeah latency ruins these type of products for me.
Thanks so much for your reply!
hex pickUp - rules!!! waiting MG3 (with multichannel support)... and one more time - great thanx to Thorleif for consult - i remember ALL
Thanks man! I do appreciate the support too! 🙏🤝 And, yes, let's hope for multichannel support. That would be awesome!
wonder how a big delay sounds on it hehe
Hey man, I work with somewhere around 20ms of (roundtrip) latency whenever I use MIDI Guitar 2 (depending on what VST I am using). You would would feel it initially, but get use to it after a while. 👍
Se puede tocar en vivo con esa configuracion
Yes, of course! 👍
Hi, thanks for the explications. Very thorough! I wonder if guitar midi 2 could help me with this: Could I play pizzicato on my cello (it's actually for bass parts) and have midi guitar 2 translate that into midi to triggering samples of pizzicato double bass. All in real time. I have a sensor mic that can be taped directly on the wood that would not pickup the other instruments.
Hi there! MIDI Guitar picks up on (all) pitch information within the (standard 6 string) guitar range, so translating anything that overlaps between the cello and the guitar is possible. Now, a piezo or contact mic on the cello is of course better than a room mic for this, but the resonance of the cello is a pretty big part of its character. And it is just that kind of resonance that usually makes it problematic to get clean distinct translations. And if your goal is to translate cello to bass in real time, I wouldn't dare promise you a flawless result, but you can certainly try for yourself. There is a free demo at
www.jamorigin.com/download/
If you do try, please let me know how it worked out. 😀👍
@@lofileifThanks for your answer. Does this mean that any pitch below the range of the guitar cannot be translated? I understand what you mean about the issues for translation by the resonance. I will try to EQ or process in some other way to limit the resonance. Anyway, the sound of the sensor pickup is only needed for the midi translation. I can amplify the cello with a normal mic..
Yes, MIDI Guitar2 will only track and translate pitches down to D2 (perhaps some semitone more). 👍
@@lofileif Would midi Bass help? Does it work in the same way?
@@dirgsuite5546 No bends, no polyphony. But tracking covers the Bass range, on the other hand. There is a trial version for that as well! 👍
It’s fair dinkum absolutely excellent. So cheap, too cheap. If you don’t buy this you’re missing out.
Yeah, and remember that the upgrade to the next version MG3 is free for any MG2 licence holders as well. 😲 😀
Imponerande! Tack ❤
Thank YOU! 👈🙏🙏🙏