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- Since it's debut with 12 characters in Super Smash Bros 64, the series has come a long way. We are all the way up to 82 characters and even more if you count echo fighters. I wanted to take a look at which characters have been the most consistent over the years of Smash. Let's take a quick look at the strength of different characters over the years of competitive Smash bros.
We are not looking at the peak of a character's strength, but instead how consistently a character remains strong.
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Production value is crazy good, visuals are bangers
Thank you!
I have actually tried to replicate some kind of mathematical way of calculating this, but I think your method is actually surprisingly simple and effective.
Thank you so much for making this video, this is something I have always wanted someone to make but I never found it until now.
@@Litttlepersonhi appreciate it! Yeah I was actually stuck on how to go about the math and asked quite a few people. There are definitely different methods that could work but I thought this one would be simple and effective which is perfect for a video format
VERY cool analysis, this video deserves so much more praise excellent work!
Thank you! I appreciate it a lot. Hopefully TH-cam helps recommend it haha
i thought it was Fox because he won a Super Major in 3 different Smash Games (Melee, Smash 4 & Ultimate) and a ton of people play as him and an example is LarryLurr
I'd actually calc'd this all a long time ago but it's nice to see a video supporting my exact findings with such good presentation. Good video.
The best player for Smash 4 Pioneer Diddy Kong when he was nerfed after being broken for so long, and Fox is by far the best character to ever pick up if you play very fast with his combos and his kit works out so well.
I love Fox as a character to be picked up as a secondary. I mainly go with little Mac because he fits the style of going fast but trades with power than weak moves and recovery. But players have figured out that little Mac has a lot of tech behind him to be unstoppable.
Really fun video, hope to see more!
One of the best smash analysis videos I’ve seen, keep up the great work!
As a pokemon fan it makes me happy to see our lil guy being one of the best throughout the series
Mikey D Returning to Smash vids? Lets go!
Happy to see another video :)
@@gentlekef8653 thank my goat!
I would give more to Peach because her placement in Smash 4 became before her great run in 2018. Honestly she deserves to be higher
Yeah Brawl Marth is awesome.
I honestly think Sonic in Brawl deserves to be higher because he has some good MUs above him.
Icies I think are much better then the tier placement says
Very well made. Keep up the good work.
Thank you!
Great Video!
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Mikey D smash content????? Let’s go
My prediction for top 5 is:
1. Pika
2. Fox
3. Diddy
4. Zero suit
5. Sonic
@@Walterhartwellwhite07 No lie, playing Rivals 2 just made me miss Smash LOL
@@MikeyDLuffy real dude I been yearning for some joker with all the sf6 I’ve been playing
i knew Diddy Kong would be #1 even though he's only been in three games. all of his placements are in the single digits, which is crazy.
i think if you ran this formula for bottom tiered characters, Zelda (Shiek notwithstanding) might actually end up worse than Ganondorf. Zelda's been bottom 10 in all of her appearances. Ganondorf's alright in Melee, at least.
Good idea tbh, might be worth checking for another a video
Great video man 👍
appreciate it!
Kirby is my favorite Super Smash Brothers character!
I take fat dumps on Kirby
Yo me too
Same
I like Him as well
Ooohwow sooo insightful 👏
Really nice work. Well done. Always wondered about that topic but your concept I didn't come up with. Props for that, I just always tried to make by feeling and as you said, my answer was always theoretical Diddy, but due to Fox and Pika being consistent over 5 games I was always in Team they get number 1.
Is there a way you could publish the entire list of all characters that were in 3 or more games? I guess you did the math for all of them? Maybe in the description or a link? Would be really interesting
Appreciate it! Yeah I also always had Fox and Pika in mind when people talked about the best of all time but thought it would be interesting to check out the numbers. I didn't check some of the obvious characters who wouldn't make the cut, but I can finish up the list and then publish it after!
@@MikeyDLuffy
But not for me of course. Probably could even be content for a sequel video. I would see that, just real quick go over the order of every characters score that was in 3 or more games :D
Banger video keep it up
Great video
@@glob-zt5ci thank you!
Obviously Diddy, mf can’t go a game without being top tier and huge in the meta. ZeRo showed us what he was truly capable of.
OLIMAR THE GOAT absolutely never misses. dumpsters that fraud meta knight
"You didn't put Bowser Jr. as #1, therefore this list is wrong. My friend, Brandon, always beat us at his birthday party when we would play timed free for all's. Side b is OP!!!!" - 9 year old Timmy
Jokes aside this is seriously fucking impressive shit. I do not know how long it must have taken you to make this and especially draw the P5 break-ins for characters, but it looked great. Honestly I'd love to be able to see the full list to see where everyone placed if you have it available. Other than that you get a like from me. Great work dude
Little Timmy is right though. Brandon's Morton is crazy
Appreciate it a lot! I didn't check every single character unfortunately, but I could and make a quick video just listing them from top to bottom!
@@MikeyDLuffy Yeah that’d cool, whatever works! I don’t want you to do any more work than you already have because I know the pain of working on a video for months haha
After Pikachu and Fox were mentioned, I started narrowing it down to who could be the number one: My guesses were Mario or Diddy, but when you mentioned that he didn't appear in every game, my final answer became Diddy Kong... And goddamn, I called it
Honorable mentions cloud and bayo
Ngl I wasn’t expecting diddy Kong, but looking at his placement… yeah it’s crazy how I forgot about him. Not having a placement in the double digits after over a decade is crazy
Fox McCloud
Haven't finished the video yet but my predictions are:
Diddy (People dont realise that this guy has never not been s tier)
Fox (Either Fox or Pika, but I think due to ultimate fox will be higher)
Pika (Good all around)
Zss (My main, never not been a tier)
Marth (idrk, him being really good in 3/4 of the games makes me think he might still be there)
This is hopeful btw, as marth & zss are my favourite characters 😊
great predictions haha
Love the content
diddy's gotta throw a party after winning this one
My top 5 prediction to start the video was Fox, Pika, Peach, Diddy, Falco. But after the Midpoint, imma hit it with the Diddy, Fox, Pika, Sonic, Falco
Ok. My prediction for top 5 would be this:
#5: Sonic
#4: Zero Suit Samus
#3: Pikachu
#2: Fox
#1: Diddy Kong
Let's see if I'm right.
Edit: Yippee
Best designed kit sounds fun too
How do you even measure that
Fox and pikachu get extra points for being in more games. This combined with the fact that fox is better known from smash than his home series makes him the goat of smash for me
It appears that for ages to come, Diddy will always stay relevant...
I think ultimates rankings arnt near finished yet.
Bit still ready to see these results
Agreed! I think Ultimate will end up changing quite a bit
Extra points to the Ice Climbers. ✌️
My personal opinion: Diddy kong is overall the best, his worst placement being 9th on the official ultimate tier list!
no fucking way i predicted this LOLLL!!
Before video guess: I think it’s probably diddy kong, top tier/broken in all of his appearances.
If it’s all 5 games, then I think it’s either fox or pikachu but leaning towards fox
Edit: Let’s go I guessed the top 3 (in order as well)
I was going into this thinking it’s gotta be Pika or Fox but damn Diddy just too good…that feels wrong to say…
@@Vaporwavelol 🤣 make sure to include the "Kong"
Pikachu
Fox
Meta Knight
Bayonetta
Steve
Why'd you not include falcon in 64?
I checked Falcon, he didn't make the top 10 even with a good placement in 64/Melee but his Brawl and Ultimate placements hurt him a lot
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after ssc and supernova this year i feel pika will return to his true top 10 form in next years tierl ist
@@definitelydoctorproctor agreed, I actually think Pika being 17th in Ultimate is lower than he will end up, which is funny as Pika has often seen overrated throughout the years but now 17th seems too low
@@MikeyDLuffy for sure, even top 3 seemed low to me
For me it's honestly sonic or pyra and mythra they are my mains but although I can accept Steve is the god of ssbu
I hate Diddy Kong the most so he deserves last place
I think Link is the one
Do ultimate players not play low tiers and such as much as melee players?? I don’t understand how marth is 55th, even if skill is in play it honestly shouldn’t be so large of a gap??
Like saying “only Leo does it”, is like if I saw M2K play marth and say only he can play marth and make him good… I know ultimates competitive landscape is different, but the lack of solo mains and… this makes me a bit upset
Many of the characters in the 50s get used in Ultimate. Like I mentioned, ICs are a threat from Big D, there are other examples. I think Marth struggles to get top level rep because most people who would be interested him just tend to play Aegis, Cloud, Lucina etc. instead.
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cool
12:13 what a ridiculous opinion
Smash 4 ruined every1's perception of her. If she came out in Ult at her current power level, I think people would like her quire a bit.
Top 5 prediction
1- Pikachu
2- Fox
3 - Diddy kong
4 - Sheik
5 - Captain falcon or Sonic?
Sheik 🙏
@@MikeyDLuffy Yeah, I forgot how bad she is in brawl, what surprises me the most is pikachu, I feel like his placement should be higher, but he is hella underrated in both smash 4 and ultimate, like putting him outside of top 10 is criminal.
bro there is 0 reason for telling us what metrics you are not considereing. bad!