I don't know how you figured this out, but you're pure genius! Somehow my wife disrupted the transponder signal with her third party remote system so her key alone wouldn't start the car, as if it were an unprogrammed key. In any event you just saved us about $ 175.00 from the dealer and just want to let you know how grateful we are. Thank you so much!
One thing I've heard from a dealer or two in my area, is to never have magnets near your keys... Something about disrupting transponder signals or wiping keys or something... Something to keep in mind in case the keys ever get wiped again...
One thing I've heard from a dealer or two in my area, is to never have magnets near your keys... Something about disrupting transponder signals or wiping keys or something... Something to keep in mind in case the keys ever get wiped again...
Not all heroes wear capes. Thanks for figuring this out and sharing. I tried the other single key methods which apparently worked for some but it only programmed the buttons to work for me and not the key itself to start the vehicle. I tried your method with the starter and it worked like a charm to start the vehicle. So greatful to you. Much appreciated. Cheers
Just want to add that this method worked to program a new chipped emergency key for a 2008 Mazda Miata (MX-5) with the Advanced Keyless Entry (AKE) system and an aftermarket remote starter.. Wow! I don't think I've felt moved to leave a comment on TH-cam before, but gotta tell you that you are the man. Thanks for saving me a lot of messing around in FORscan and/or at least $50 in locksmith programming fees. 👍
Forscan can program key? I have used free version of it on this car for years, pretty familiar. Forscan doesn't really do much but read codes and reset them though.
Could not have been any easier! Worked perfectly first try following your video. I was down to one key on a 2011 Expedition but had an after market Compustar remote start system. Thanks for sharing this.
Worked great for 1997 Expedition. Press remote start, wait for "theft'" light to turn off, step on brake, insert good key, turn to on, wait for "theft" light to turn off, turn key off and remove, insert unprogrammed key, turn to on, wait for "theft light to go out. Turn off and remove key. It is programmed. I bypassed a 1995 Bronco theft system by cutting and splicing wires before but I thought it was some kind of alarm. I think PATS is what I actually bypassed. Brilliant work around. Thanks for the video. I do not know if the PATS was already bypassed on the 97 Expedition. I am going to call this video absolutely true because it makes sense substituting the remote start as one of the keys.
Yes. The remote start is just programmed to the vehicle PCM as another Ford key. It doesn't know it is a remote start system. You are just doing the programming sequence as if you are using a programmed pats key.
This worked!!! I have an oem key with a fob on it (140.00 at the dealer) and an aftermarket remote start. I just programed an aftermarket "fob key" that I bought on Amazon and had cut for 20 bucks! I thought I was screwed! Thanks!
I tried it on my 2001 Lincoln navigator and it works. I only had one key and a after market remote start. Thank you so much for saving me money. Great video by the way.
Aww man, you're KILLING ME! After Market Anti theft? Somebody on Amazon claimed they found a video showing how to do it w/ 1 key on the OEM Anti-Theft system. SOMEONE HAS GOT TO KNOW!!!
Thanks!! Worked like a champ on my 2010 F-150, lucky my truck had a remote start fob to go with the one key I had. Ordered two keys from Amazon $20 total. Got them cut at Lowe’s and just programmed them and they work great.
THANKS JACK! I purchased two fobs ('08 Expedition XLT), programmed them, then purchased two transponder keys, then followed your video & voila! It worked just as you said. Now I have three sets of keys with fobs as a backup. Got my keys cut for FREE at my local TRUE VALUE! Now if you could teach us how to retreave the pass code for the keyless system at the driver's door, I would name you CAR TECHNOLOGIST EXTRAODINAIRE! You $aved me hundred$.
I just learned how to do that. it was a youtube video. I don't have the link but here is what it said. we did it and now have the passcode. I have a 2014 F 150. open the driver side door (thinking you do that to ensure your door opens but not sure). then go around to the passenger side - open the door and along the inside there is a panel. remove that panel. behind there is a little white sticker. the door code (factory code) is on that sticker. you can either use that for your door or if it has been changed from that to a more customized number - you still need that in order to change the doorcode. it worked for us immediately so we just left the factory code. one other thing my daughter told us. if you repeat the first number twice - that will open both doors. example - door code - 12345 opens just the driver side. if you put in 123451 - that opens both. there is a place to change the door code in your system info. it will require you to use the factory code - then you can change it to any number you'd like. hope this helps someone. I'm still working on getting a 2nd key. I only have one, but it does have remote start - so I guess I may only need one? then get it cut somewhere.
FANTASTIC!! THANKS SO MUCH!! WORKED PERFECTLY ON MY 2002 FORD ESCAPE! UNCUT BLANK KEY ON EBAY-$7.00. GET KEY CUT AT LOCAL HARDWARE STORE-$5.00. NOT HAVING TO SURRENDER TO THE COST OF GOING TO A DEALER-PRICELESS!!!!!!!! $12.00 LATER, 2 PERFECTLY WORKING KEYS!!!
Awesome...this totally worked!! Just bought my kids first car, 2011 Ford Focus and it only came with one key. Luckily it did have a remote starter. Saved me a bunch of money. Thank you!
This worked for me ... 2002 F-150 ... Ordered 2 blank chip keys off E-bay ( 24.00 including frght ) , had them cut to match the one key I had ( 5.00 ) , then used this procedure with the Astro-Start remote ... After I programmed the first key , I was then able to use that to program the second ... Worked great , no time at all ... Now I have two extra keys for a $29.00 investment ... Thanks ...
This worked perfect for me on a 2010 Ford Escape. I needed to have my door closed and once the vehicle started to crank by means of the remote start, I tapped the brake. Then I put in the one working key and turned it forward until the theft light went off. Then removed the key and placed the new key in and turn forward until the theft light went off. If the theft light goes off, you know it programmed properly. I tried this with 2 different keys that I purchased from separate people on ebay for $10 each. 1 worked and the other did not. Both keys said SA on them, but I think some keys are only 40 bit and will not work as they need to be the 80 bit transponder chip in them. I think some vendors have keys that look like they should work and others actually do..
That is genius, I completely forgot remote start systems use their own key ID, unfortunately I only have one key and we ripped the Viper system out of the mustang im trying to program a new key for. I was able to program a new key with only one on my jeep wrangler with my obd2, but it doesnt look like im gonna have the same luck here..
Just done on my Ford Focus 2007 with one key. Place original key in and turn to on for a few seconds and then remove the key. Insert the new key in and turn to on for a few seconds, then turn off and try to start the engine. Smiles all round.
Mine come with one key and aftermarket FOB remote start. I bought a new FOB key and had Ace Hardware cut it. I programmed the new FOB Key and here's the interesting part. It programmed the new FOB key which will unlock door but will not start the vehicle. HOWEVER, if i use the remote start FOB to start the vehicle, it starts, and i can use that same key and to turn to run, operates normally and I can do anything with the new FOB key except start the vehicle without using the remote start FOB. Once I use the remote start FOB, even a plain key without a chip ( I had one made to unlock door) I can drive the vehicle with that key. Once I turn the vehicle off, I must use the remote start FOB to start the vehicle but can use ANY cut key to drive it. Bottom line, I now have two keys that work but one requires me to start using the aftermarket remote start FOB and then using any properly cut unchipped key. Your video helped me get it this far, thanks a bunch.
Good video for a key type remote start, how about for a 2018 Ford with a Push Start? I'm trying to duplicate your process except my truck has the key fob programmer underneath the front cup holder. If I succeed I will leave another comment. 11-13-2023
Bought a brand new OEM 4 button HA 80bit keyless entry key on eBay for for 35$ for my 2011 Ford Escape the process in this video worked to program the chip. So fast easy and free. Thank you. How ever the keyless entry buttons were not programmed at the same time. Is there another process to do this myself?
Yes. If its an aftermarket key/remote you will have to program the buttons like a conventional keyfob. Google it. I can't remember the exact steps but you turn the key forward a certain number of times, the power locks cycle and then you press the lock button on the remote and it learns it
Your spare key is in literally in a box under the dashboard... Viper is made by "Directed" (they make most alarms) and the box, that your other key is in is called a 556U - Universal Immobilizer Bypass for Remote Start
+John Thompson in some cases that is true but on this truck there is no key in a box. It is all electronic and emulates a key and is wired directly into the factory PATS system
That's assuming the remote start system was programmed using the lost key. Otherwise your up the Creek without a paddle. Unless you have a scantool that can do it.
Update, I did not succeed in programing a single new FOB, when remote start and tried not to allow engine start it would not work by pressing the breaks. Could not fool the 2018 F-150 Platinum security screen when pressing the Start button. I guess I'm going to an Automobile Locksmith today. 11/15/2023
It seems very smart try. I ll try right away, but the question would be: the “virtual key” simulated by the remote starter , isnt it just a clone of the original key? Meaning you have only 1 real key and we need 2 different key to program the 3 rd one.
Me I have Fortin Evo one starter with immo . When I press remote start on the keyfob it just start the engine. I can press 10times the Brake pedal ,the engine will start anyway. So I can t cancel starting the engine as you did. I tried many times :(
Yeah. If you cant stop it before hand its not possible. I know the fortin evo will shut down if you press the brake pedal while running but i never tried to stop it before it started. Maybe try opening the hood instead? Its a longshot, but you never know.
I am going to try this within the next few days. I have a 2011 Fusion with an after market car starter remote. Lost my second set of keys, and bought two from Ebay to program. My biggest question/fear is, if I make a mistake or the blank doesn't work, am I going to screw up the good key or remote starter? Thanks so much!
Do you know how to do this with newer fobs with push start? I’ve tried doing it with the slot in the center console, but the remote start doesn’t delay on my 2019 explorer, it cranks right away
I can't get it to work on my 2012 focus. The aftermarket remote start is a Computer system. When I tap the brake before the remote start starts it, the focus seems to exit the start and locks the doors. Then I put in the admin key as instructed. When I move to the new key I just get the message "no key detected". It never seems to enter a programming mode.
What you didn't know is that you do have another key it's in a box under your steering wheel , that box has a wire that runs to the key ignition switch it wraps around it and it mimics the key
A lot of the older systems used an actual key.. This one does not use a key. Most modern systems do not use an actual key the computer interface mimics a transponder
My used 2021 Ford F250 only came with one key, and I have a new blank. My question is can I use the FordPass remote start function on my phone as the second key? My one key fob doesn't have the remote start button, but the phone app works as a remote start.
Most older and even a lot of newer remote start systems, on Ford's especially, are programmed as a new key to the PATS system, which is why you need 2 working keys to program the remote start system, so your comment is incorrect.
@@JackofAllMasterofNone I still say that's contingent on the particular system your putting in. Case in point I have a 2017 F150 with the flip key 128 bit encryption and it programmed fine using one key and works perfectly fine. Unless you're using an old firmware version and not the one the manufacturer recommends. I've actually done quite a few this way without issues and if you go into the BCM and have it look up the number of keys programmed to the pats system. It only shows two. This truck uses the same PATS system as the 2021 F150 and probably even the 2022 F150. Again I've done this multiple times without any problems. But I'm usually installing either compustar or Fortin systems. Most of what I do are compustar. So that must be some really old firmware your using? Again not what Fortin or Compustar is telling you to use. I'm sure it's the same with the cars too. The biggest thing are network faults. But as long as theirs no communication issues with canbuss systems it should work fine. It's basically just exploiting Fords built in remote start algorithm which is all done through data. In the canbuss network.
Help please , this will start the car when I try to do it but when I take it out it won't start again and is not working on doors . The thief key light doesn't go out like everyone else says . But it will turn over the engine every time until I press any of the door open keys and they it does work to start engine and every time I do it it goes to this .
How did you install the Viper with one key? What brand of bypass are you using? I only have one 40 bit key, 2004 F150. Great information you have given. Thank you.
+sukedana the remote start has to already be installed. This won't do you any good if you don't already have a remote starter programmed into your system
So I have a 12 f150 with one key and a ford remote start. But it was added as an accessory I believe (separate smaller fob). Curious if this will work for me. Will give it a shot. I don't think I can kill the remote start once the signal is sent though.
Hi! great video Thanks! I have a 2012 Ford Expedition with only one original master/administrative key. I bought two unbranded ford keys on ebay (which worked great) Home Depot was able to make copies of my keys for free and I was also able to program the FOB part of the key on my own(the remote/ buttons portion). All I need now is to program the chip to start the engine. My first question is where do I find a remote starter that works for my car? Second, Does that mean I always have to have the starter with my key at all times? or I only use it once to program and then I don't need to have it with me anymore? and thirdly do you think it will work with my 2012 ford expedition? thanks so much:)
@@AngelicOutcry If you only have 1 original key and no remote start this won't work. If you have 1 original key and an aftermarket remote start system this may work.
Okay, so my 2012 F150 truck has an OEM remote starting system. It came stock and is not an ad-on, so will I be able to program a new key FOB as you describe? Thanks
I have one key for my 08 Ford f350 and one remote starter the truck only start with the remote starter the key won't work that happen after my serpentine belt felt off before the key was working can some one help me please before I bring it at the dealer ship thank you
I tried this with my 2010 Ford Taurus and it didn't work. I tried it 10 times. I used the Ford remote control and hit the brake when the console lit up. Then, I put the key that came with the car in and turned it to "ON." Then, turned it off, removed it and put in the new, un-programmed key. The "car locked" red symbol kept flashing. The new key didn't get programmed. It wouldn't start the car. Well, maybe this procedure works with some Ford trucks and cars, but not my 2010 Ford Taurus.
+Robert Comer sorry it didnt work for you. May depend on how the remote start is programmed also. Some newer ford factory remote starters are not programmed like a key like an aftermarket remote starter
I have 2003 ford focus ZTW wagon. whenever i want to used remote starter it is not working but when i put my both keys into ignition for couple of second and then try my remote starter it works. Can you tell me what should i do? i tried your method but not working i don't know may be i am doing something wrong. please help
I don't know how you figured this out, but you're pure genius! Somehow my wife disrupted the transponder signal with her third party remote system so her key alone wouldn't start the car, as if it were an unprogrammed key. In any event you just saved us about $ 175.00 from the dealer and just want to let you know how grateful we are. Thank you so much!
Im really glad this helped you!
BTW: I remember my mom used to call me, aJack of all trades, master of none.Thanks again.
One thing I've heard from a dealer or two in my area, is to never have magnets near your keys... Something about disrupting transponder signals or wiping keys or something... Something to keep in mind in case the keys ever get wiped again...
One thing I've heard from a dealer or two in my area, is to never have magnets near your keys... Something about disrupting transponder signals or wiping keys or something... Something to keep in mind in case the keys ever get wiped again...
Not all heroes wear capes. Thanks for figuring this out and sharing. I tried the other single key methods which apparently worked for some but it only programmed the buttons to work for me and not the key itself to start the vehicle. I tried your method with the starter and it worked like a charm to start the vehicle. So greatful to you. Much appreciated. Cheers
Glad it helped
Just want to add that this method worked to program a new chipped emergency key for a 2008 Mazda Miata (MX-5) with the Advanced Keyless Entry (AKE) system and an aftermarket remote starter.. Wow! I don't think I've felt moved to leave a comment on TH-cam before, but gotta tell you that you are the man. Thanks for saving me a lot of messing around in FORscan and/or at least $50 in locksmith programming fees. 👍
Forscan can program key? I have used free version of it on this car for years, pretty familiar. Forscan doesn't really do much but read codes and reset them though.
Could not have been any easier! Worked perfectly first try following your video. I was down to one key on a 2011 Expedition but had an after market Compustar remote start system. Thanks for sharing this.
Worked great for 1997 Expedition. Press remote start, wait for "theft'" light to turn off, step on brake, insert good key, turn to on, wait for "theft" light to turn off, turn key off and remove, insert unprogrammed key, turn to on, wait for "theft light to go out. Turn off and remove key. It is programmed. I bypassed a 1995 Bronco theft system by cutting and splicing wires before but I thought it was some kind of alarm. I think PATS is what I actually bypassed. Brilliant work around. Thanks for the video. I do not know if the PATS was already bypassed on the 97 Expedition. I am going to call this video absolutely true because it makes sense substituting the remote start as one of the keys.
Yes. The remote start is just programmed to the vehicle PCM as another Ford key. It doesn't know it is a remote start system. You are just doing the programming sequence as if you are using a programmed pats key.
This worked!!! I have an oem key with a fob on it (140.00 at the dealer) and an aftermarket remote start. I just programed an aftermarket "fob key" that I bought on Amazon and had cut for 20 bucks! I thought I was screwed! Thanks!
Glad it worked!
I tried it on my 2001 Lincoln navigator and it works. I only had one key and a after market remote start. Thank you so much for saving me money. Great video by the way.
Excellent
SUPRAMAN88
But did you have an AfterMarket Anti-Theft system or the Original OEM Anti-Theft called "SecuriLock"???
I just wanted to say thank you for this video. This method worked for my 2010 Ford Fusion so I can confirm it works with no issues!
Worked perfectly first time for my 2014 Ford Expedition, I only had one original key (buttons no longer worked) and a remote starter. THANKS!!
mary romanic
No way!!!
You got it to work on your OEM Original Anti-Theft from Ford/Lincoln/Mercury????
Worked great just about gave up and was heading to the dealer then found this video thanks great help bro
Excellent!
Aww man, you're KILLING ME!
After Market Anti theft?
Somebody on Amazon claimed they found a video showing how to do it w/ 1 key on the OEM Anti-Theft system.
SOMEONE HAS GOT TO KNOW!!!
BTW, I have a:
2012 Lincoln Navigator L
Thanks!! Worked like a champ on my 2010 F-150, lucky my truck had a remote start fob to go with the one key I had. Ordered two keys from Amazon $20 total. Got them cut at Lowe’s and just programmed them and they work great.
+buzz1560 Excellent!
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hey from where did you buy the key
AHH!!!! Thanks DUDE! you saved me $120!!! paid $22 for a spare blank on amazon! Worked like a charm!
THANKS JACK! I purchased two fobs ('08 Expedition XLT), programmed them, then purchased two transponder keys, then followed your video & voila! It worked just as you said. Now I have three sets of keys with fobs as a backup. Got my keys cut for FREE at my local TRUE VALUE! Now if you could teach us how to retreave the pass code for the keyless system at the driver's door, I would name you CAR TECHNOLOGIST EXTRAODINAIRE! You $aved me hundred$.
I just learned how to do that. it was a youtube video. I don't have the link but here is what it said. we did it and now have the passcode. I have a 2014 F 150.
open the driver side door (thinking you do that to ensure your door opens but not sure). then go around to the passenger side - open the door and along the inside there is a panel. remove that panel. behind there is a little white sticker. the door code (factory code) is on that sticker. you can either use that for your door or if it has been changed from that to a more customized number - you still need that in order to change the doorcode. it worked for us immediately so we just left the factory code.
one other thing my daughter told us. if you repeat the first number twice - that will open both doors. example - door code - 12345 opens just the driver side. if you put in 123451 - that opens both.
there is a place to change the door code in your system info. it will require you to use the factory code - then you can change it to any number you'd like.
hope this helps someone.
I'm still working on getting a 2nd key. I only have one, but it does have remote start - so I guess I may only need one? then get it cut somewhere.
FANTASTIC!! THANKS SO MUCH!! WORKED PERFECTLY ON MY 2002 FORD ESCAPE! UNCUT BLANK KEY ON EBAY-$7.00. GET KEY CUT AT LOCAL HARDWARE STORE-$5.00. NOT HAVING TO SURRENDER TO THE COST OF GOING TO A DEALER-PRICELESS!!!!!!!! $12.00 LATER, 2 PERFECTLY WORKING KEYS!!!
Excellent 👍
Awesome...this totally worked!! Just bought my kids first car, 2011 Ford Focus and it only came with one key. Luckily it did have a remote starter. Saved me a bunch of money. Thank you!
Very cool
Thanks Jack you saved me money in my 05 f150
Awesome!! Thank you! Worked great! Thank you Jesus I had remote start since i only had one key
This worked for me ... 2002 F-150 ... Ordered 2 blank chip keys off E-bay ( 24.00 including frght ) , had them cut to match the one key I had ( 5.00 ) , then used this procedure with the Astro-Start remote ... After I programmed the first key , I was then able to use that to program the second ... Worked great , no time at all ... Now I have two extra keys for a $29.00 investment ... Thanks ...
+TheLibertyWorkShop glad it worked for you!
TheLibertyWorkShop whos cut it for you ?
Hi ... Local lock smith cut them for me ...
Thanks, worked on a 14 mustang with viper remote start. Saved me $80
You are awesome for this. You saved me money
It worked - awesome! Thanks and a handshake!!!
Glad it helped!
Thanks, it worked fpr me. I have only 1 key & stater, now I can have 2nd one.
Worked perfectly on a 2007 Ford Explorer, thank you!
Thanks it worked on my 2000 F-150 it took a couple tries but it worked
07 focus with nordic starter worked as shown. Thanks for the video.
IT WORKED FOR ME. THANKS SOOOO MUCH
This worked perfect for me on a 2010 Ford Escape. I needed to have my door closed and once the vehicle started to crank by means of the remote start, I tapped the brake. Then I put in the one working key and turned it forward until the theft light went off. Then removed the key and placed the new key in and turn forward until the theft light went off. If the theft light goes off, you know it programmed properly. I tried this with 2 different keys that I purchased from separate people on ebay for $10 each. 1 worked and the other did not. Both keys said SA on them, but I think some keys are only 40 bit and will not work as they need to be the 80 bit transponder chip in them. I think some vendors have keys that look like they should work and others actually do..
Wow now that was simple thanks
Thanks, this worked on 2006 Ford explore
I need a key replacement , I have a 2006 Ford Focus and no original to go by.
That is genius, I completely forgot remote start systems use their own key ID, unfortunately I only have one key and we ripped the Viper system out of the mustang im trying to program a new key for. I was able to program a new key with only one on my jeep wrangler with my obd2, but it doesnt look like im gonna have the same luck here..
Save me $150 .You are the Best!👍Thank you!
Thanks! This worked great!
Just done on my Ford Focus 2007 with one key. Place original key in and turn to on for a few seconds and then remove the key. Insert the new key in and turn to on for a few seconds, then turn off and try to start the engine. Smiles all round.
Mine come with one key and aftermarket FOB remote start. I bought a new FOB key and had Ace Hardware cut it. I programmed the new FOB Key and here's the interesting part. It programmed the new FOB key which will unlock door but will not start the vehicle. HOWEVER, if i use the remote start FOB to start the vehicle, it starts, and i can use that same key and to turn to run, operates normally and I can do anything with the new FOB key except start the vehicle without using the remote start FOB. Once I use the remote start FOB, even a plain key without a chip ( I had one made to unlock door) I can drive the vehicle with that key. Once I turn the vehicle off, I must use the remote start FOB to start the vehicle but can use ANY cut key to drive it. Bottom line, I now have two keys that work but one requires me to start using the aftermarket remote start FOB and then using any properly cut unchipped key. Your video helped me get it this far, thanks a bunch.
Most likely the remote starter has your other missing key chip inside it that's normal
Good video for a key type remote start, how about for a 2018 Ford with a Push Start? I'm trying to duplicate your process except my truck has the key fob programmer underneath the front cup holder. If I succeed I will leave another comment. 11-13-2023
Didn't work 2009 focus. Maybe the remote start is programmed as a clone?
Bought a brand new OEM 4 button HA 80bit keyless entry key on eBay for for 35$ for my 2011 Ford Escape the process in this video worked to program the chip. So fast easy and free. Thank you. How ever the keyless entry buttons were not programmed at the same time. Is there another process to do this myself?
Yes. If its an aftermarket key/remote you will have to program the buttons like a conventional keyfob. Google it. I can't remember the exact steps but you turn the key forward a certain number of times, the power locks cycle and then you press the lock button on the remote and it learns it
Your spare key is in literally in a box under the dashboard... Viper is made by "Directed" (they make most alarms) and the box, that your other key is in is called a 556U - Universal Immobilizer Bypass for Remote Start
+John Thompson in some cases that is true but on this truck there is no key in a box. It is all electronic and emulates a key and is wired directly into the factory PATS system
As a Directed dealer I can tell you that almost NOBODY uses the 556U anymore!!
We only use DBALL ignition bypass modules.
Thanks, great information, great delivery!
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That's assuming the remote start system was programmed using the lost key. Otherwise your up the Creek without a paddle. Unless you have a scantool that can do it.
Update, I did not succeed in programing a single new FOB, when remote start and tried not to allow engine start it would not work by pressing the breaks. Could not fool the 2018 F-150 Platinum security screen when pressing the Start button. I guess I'm going to an Automobile Locksmith today. 11/15/2023
my ford key is unclonable what should i do in order to make secound key
It seems very smart try. I ll try right away, but the question would be: the “virtual key” simulated by the remote starter , isnt it just a clone of the original key? Meaning you have only 1 real key and we need 2 different key to program the 3 rd one.
It is not a clone. It is programmed as an independent key. Hence why this method works. If it was a clone it would not work
Me I have Fortin Evo one starter with immo . When I press remote start on the keyfob it just start the engine. I can press 10times the Brake pedal ,the engine will start anyway.
So I can t cancel starting the engine as you did. I tried many times :(
Yeah. If you cant stop it before hand its not possible. I know the fortin evo will shut down if you press the brake pedal while running but i never tried to stop it before it started. Maybe try opening the hood instead? Its a longshot, but you never know.
Unfortunatelly my car remote start with hood opened :(.
I am going to try this within the next few days. I have a 2011 Fusion with an after market car starter remote. Lost my second set of keys, and bought two from Ebay to program. My biggest question/fear is, if I make a mistake or the blank doesn't work, am I going to screw up the good key or remote starter? Thanks so much!
No you won't screw it up.
It started my car but it did not make the cycle twice button an
Do you know how to do this with newer fobs with push start? I’ve tried doing it with the slot in the center console, but the remote start doesn’t delay on my 2019 explorer, it cranks right away
I can't get it to work on my 2012 focus. The aftermarket remote start is a Computer system. When I tap the brake before the remote start starts it, the focus seems to exit the start and locks the doors. Then I put in the admin key as instructed. When I move to the new key I just get the message "no key detected".
It never seems to enter a programming mode.
What you didn't know is that you do have another key it's in a box under your steering wheel , that box has a wire that runs to the key ignition switch it wraps around it and it mimics the key
A lot of the older systems used an actual key.. This one does not use a key. Most modern systems do not use an actual key the computer interface mimics a transponder
My used 2021 Ford F250 only came with one key, and I have a new blank. My question is can I use the FordPass remote start function on my phone as the second key? My one key fob doesn't have the remote start button, but the phone app works as a remote start.
No. It doesn't work as a 3rd key with the OEM ford system like that.
I have a 2005 Ford Focus,with aftermarket remote starter, but it's a manual. I can't get it to work.
Any suggestions?
Again only if the key in your hand isn't the one programmed into the remote start memory. The remote start system simply mocs your existing key.
Most older and even a lot of newer remote start systems, on Ford's especially, are programmed as a new key to the PATS system, which is why you need 2 working keys to program the remote start system, so your comment is incorrect.
@@JackofAllMasterofNone I still say that's contingent on the particular system your putting in. Case in point I have a 2017 F150 with the flip key 128 bit encryption and it programmed fine using one key and works perfectly fine. Unless you're using an old firmware version and not the one the manufacturer recommends. I've actually done quite a few this way without issues and if you go into the BCM and have it look up the number of keys programmed to the pats system. It only shows two. This truck uses the same PATS system as the 2021 F150 and probably even the 2022 F150. Again I've done this multiple times without any problems. But I'm usually installing either compustar or Fortin systems. Most of what I do are compustar. So that must be some really old firmware your using? Again not what Fortin or Compustar is telling you to use. I'm sure it's the same with the cars too. The biggest thing are network faults. But as long as theirs no communication issues with canbuss systems it should work fine. It's basically just exploiting Fords built in remote start algorithm which is all done through data. In the canbuss network.
i have only 1 key for my Ford 2014 F150. I believe models after 2014 have laser cut keys but mine is not that.
I will try with my vw routan. I hope it works too. I tried and it did not worked with a vw routan.
Help please , this will start the car when I try to do it but when I take it out it won't start again and is not working on doors . The thief key light doesn't go out like everyone else says . But it will turn over the engine every time until I press any of the door open keys and they it does work to start engine and every time I do it it goes to this .
How did you install the Viper with one key? What brand of bypass are you using? I only have one 40 bit key, 2004 F150. Great information you have given. Thank you.
+sukedana the remote start has to already be installed. This won't do you any good if you don't already have a remote starter programmed into your system
Title of video is misleading........
what if you only have a key without remote?
This doesn't apply.
Wait, so the door is open when you remote start the car? What does "turn it forward mean?" There are multiple clicks clockwise.
To run, right before the starter and the door being open doesn't matter.
@@JackofAllMasterofNone thank you so much for helping us.
So I have a 12 f150 with one key and a ford remote start. But it was added as an accessory I believe (separate smaller fob). Curious if this will work for me. Will give it a shot. I don't think I can kill the remote start once the signal is sent though.
You should be able to hit the break and stop the engine. Most likely.
@@JackofAllMasterofNone tried that, but it just starts anyways. We'll see what happens once I get the replacement keys.
@@ExoTraveler Can also hit the remote start button again (hold it down) after you hear the fuel pump prime. You might be able to get it that way
@@JackofAllMasterofNone No luck. Looks like I have to program through forscan
Ended up programming the second key in forscan, third one with key swap strategy. I didn't have to delete the first key though.
What if the guy who have the second key can he start your car after your new programmed ?
Yes. You would need to erase all keys with a scantool to prevent that
Always only had one key 2005 ford 500. I put in the viper remote, but that programed with a clone of the one key. This still work?
Hi! great video Thanks!
I have a 2012 Ford Expedition with only one original master/administrative key. I bought two unbranded ford keys on ebay (which worked great) Home Depot was able to make copies of my keys for free and I was also able to program the FOB part of the key on my own(the remote/ buttons portion).
All I need now is to program the chip to start the engine. My first question is where do I find a remote starter that works for my car? Second, Does that mean I always have to have the starter with my key at all times? or I only use it once to program and then I don't need to have it with me anymore? and thirdly do you think it will work with my 2012 ford expedition? thanks so much:)
+mrsl0305 this only works if your vehicle already has a remote start system programmed and installed.
Ah, ok Thanks!
Also worked with my 2005 Ford Mustang
Thank you so much saved me some coins
Question, Does that after market, remote starter work for a 2006 Ford F150 ?
Yes
Didn’t work with 06 Freestyle
Cut out the pellet glue it to key cylinder just cut more keys that simple.
If you don't have a remote starter ;)
Will this work on a 2013 F-150 with factory remote start?
I doubt it will work with an OEM remote start system.
So why don't you just go to Walmart and have two more keys made? Would that not work for someone looking for three keys?
You could have keys "cloned" yes. But they are almost 100 dollars each. Or you could try this with a 5 dollar key bought on eBay and do it right.
@@JackofAllMasterofNone If I understand correctly... My problem is. I only have 1 original key???
@@AngelicOutcry If you only have 1 original key and no remote start this won't work. If you have 1 original key and an aftermarket remote start system this may work.
@@JackofAllMasterofNone No sir... I only have one key and one key fob.
Okay, so my 2012 F150 truck has an OEM remote starting system. It came stock and is not an ad-on, so will I be able to program a new key FOB as you describe? Thanks
Probably not. But give it a try and find out
@@JackofAllMasterofNone I'll post if it works or not. Thank you
Well did it work?
Doesn't work without remote start.
It doesn t work for 2009 mazda 6 :(
I have one key for my 08 Ford f350 and one remote starter the truck only start with the remote starter the key won't work that happen after my serpentine belt felt off before the key was working can some one help me please before I bring it at the dealer ship thank you
+Adnan Ovnovic Thats a weird one. Im not sure what the belt falling off would have to do with a key working. Sorry
Jack of All Master of None After I start it with remote I can put my key in and drive but if I try with the key only it doesn't work is really strange
I tried this with my 2010 Ford Taurus and it didn't work. I tried it 10 times. I used the Ford remote control and hit the brake when the console lit up. Then, I put the key that came with the car in and turned it to "ON." Then, turned it off, removed it and put in the new, un-programmed key. The "car locked" red symbol kept flashing. The new key didn't get programmed. It wouldn't start the car. Well, maybe this procedure works with some Ford trucks and cars, but not my 2010 Ford Taurus.
+Robert Comer sorry it didnt work for you. May depend on how the remote start is programmed also. Some newer ford factory remote starters are not programmed like a key like an aftermarket remote starter
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if I misunderstood, then just correct me if I'm wrong :)
Your second key is probably physically in the transponder bypass.
+Vernon Zumhagen No its not. All digital. Older style pats interfaces did use an actual key.
Jack of All Master of None my 2017 has this for its chip bypass. I'm sure there are ways to do it without the key in a bypass.
Dose it work on 2016 Ford Fusion se
I have 2015 titanium with remote start button on its key, gonna try this...
@@matek7523 did it work and the remote start is oem?
I have 2003 ford focus ZTW wagon. whenever i want to used remote starter it is not working but when i put my both keys into ignition for couple of second and then try my remote starter it works. Can you tell me what should i do? i tried your method but not working i don't know may be i am doing something wrong. please help
+imran ahmed Sounds like a problem with the remote starter not properly bypassing the PATS system.
Do you have any solution or any idea how to make it work properly
Get a universal bypass module, you will also need to get another key to put into the box for the module.
OR you can buy blanks, have them cut, then use Forscan to program all your keys... just sayng
Yep. You can. I show how to do that in ny other videos. But for a lot of people Forscan is way above their head or comfort zone.
You are wrong.
If you read your owners manuel you can program your car yourself and your fob
Im not wrong. You can only program a key if you have 2 working keys. That is not the topic of this video. But thanks for watching.
bullshit misleading title on video folks.
What's misleading about it?
You need 1 working key and a programmed remote start system. This has worked for many. Thanks.
Sorry but this is a total clickbait title. "If you happen to have an aftermarket remote start system"
How is it clickbait? It says in the title you have to have 1 key and a remote start system. Theres no magic solution bud.
@@JackofAllMasterofNone what's Chuck is trying to say is that your titles should at least included Aftermarket remote start for it to work