Seeing this video pop off lately which means this sort of title and thumbnail is really something else. To address popular new comments. The dislikes/hating on Challenger going into Bronze/Iron I literally have over 40+ episodes. Its a series and a climb to show how to climb out of "elo hell" I'd be helping 10s of thousands in favour of the arbitrary 4 bronzies winning and 5 bronzies losing complaint. As for MMA fighter vs 8 year old kid comments. Its more like.. 2 MMA fighters one with more knowledge + techniques than the other fighter. That is what League is all about and it's what I try to teach in all of my videos. I play literally any voted Champion in this series. Only reason for the extra dislikes on this video is really just the title and thumbnail compared to all other smurf videos in this series. (Check video description for the Iron to Diamond Playlist link)
Keep doing what your doing, it helps me out massively watching your vids for tips and tricks. finally got out of iron because of your vids. Dont mind these haters, haters gunna hate, you do you and keep helping us noobies out :D
I like how you try to analize the game saying things like "amumu won't gank me 'cause he got to farm" or "maybe i can find amumu in the river". I'm like "dude, u're playing in Iron, you can't predict the thoughts in a Iron players' mind".
The Garen is low Elo: In lowelo the player often buy whats recommended in the shop. Thats why he bought mercurys. Its not that hes trolling. He is just bad.
@@silspieard7417 That's not what "disrespect" means in that sense. He wasn't saying Garen was trying to taunt him or something. He was saying he wasn't respecting his damage. Just like when he said "I'm not respecting the jg cause their a bottom jungler and won't gank here much".
@@bryanducker2898 Oh no no no. There was one time I was kat, and I had a huge lead. I ganked lanes. I stole drags. Won teamfights, etc. They were smart enough to start focusing me. Then I died. Then my teammates died. This was already very far into the game, and with everyone else not doing so well, some even feeding heavily, there was nothing anyone could do. They pushed, and The End. If everyone on his team was feeding, it wouldve been a bit harder for him to carry. He would've won lane, but it was also because his cait was my counter (ashe) it was hard for me down at bot. For him, bot was winning, top (obviously) was winning, and jungle was winning (our amumu was p. crap, not really ganking much or well, if memory serves) But at least amumu was a tank, he had a bit higher sustain. Me on the other hand, it was hard to catch up, if even get ahead. It was a lost game but at least we didn't surrender.
There's 5 ''bad'' players on the enemy team, if you're good there'll be 4 on your team. If you deserve to get out, you will easily. Also, they iron/bronze mind is to blame teammates.
Haven't played this in years, what the heck is Iron league? Did they rename Bronze to Iron to make people feel less shitty about themselves, since brown is often associated with literal shit?
Or like an MMA pro fightin a gamerboy, who is mainly showing his ability as a experienced player in the highest division / league for solo/duo, how to stomp the weakest and / or beginners in the game and calling it challenge. In this "challenge" jay would ff faster then 20. Just imagine how hilarious it would be if the mma pro beeing interviewed after jay sea's K.O. in 5 seconds as a result of the first just "test" punch (more like a bitschslap) in his face, and the pro says completly serious: "Yeah i forced a fast knockout. I am kinda happy that i had success. It was a challenge for me to show i am way better."
Except in this case. It's more like 2 equal fighters with one who has better knowledge than the other. All this game comes down to is practice and knowledge which I teach the latter in my videos.
I don't necessarily mind smurfs. Yeah, they're frustrating but if I have a smurf in my game, I accept the loss, try to learn some things and move on. I understand not everyone is like this, and I understand the tilt some people get when it comes to smurfs. The thing that's really annoying about this smurf, is the way he's 'teaching'. Yeah, he gives some insight on builds, but it'd be a bit more appreciated if he explained more why he's doing certain things IE. Why he's going all-in vs. not going all-in during a certain situation. Most of his teaching is "Don't suck and you'll get out of Iron/Bronze." Maybe explain what an enemy is doing right/wrong in a situation, and how you would have handled it. If a teammate makes a mistake, let them know in an obviously respectful way. This could be a great Iron to Diamond series. But going "These players are bad" makes you look silly when you're a fucking Challenger player in literally the lowest rank of the game.
If you’re really wanting this teaching your talking about, I regularly watch Pekin Woof. He’s a very skilled challenger and he explains all these things you’ve mentioned in your comments. He also coaches/teaches lessons to lower Elo players. I recommend him for sure.
To add to that, when he does smurf, he does it to educate and explain what the opponent is doing wrong and why he’s able to take advantage/punish/trade so well. Seriously I’d look into it, his vids have definitely improved my gameplay, not this smurf “ur shit at this game”.
So you stop analyzing in-game matchups until the point you're now in Platinum and you get constantly outplayed because you didn't learn to analyze matches from Iron :)
@Jay Sea regarding fogged going nashors>ER... fogged goes stinger - warhammer - nashors - ER, unless he has enough gold to buy ER outright. The buying path is cheaper for nashors and he's trying to gain max CDR as quickly as possible. Great videos man keep up the good work!
Fogged probably doesn't answer Jay on why he buys those in that order cause he gets asked it like a million times. I remember one of his videos he almost lost his cool answering it for probably the 1000th time in a sitting lmao.
Also getting that little bit of AP from the fiendish codex has saved his life a few times, with the slightly better Q heal. 900 Gold for 10% CDR and 35 AP is a pretty good bargain.
@Al Bundy I don't know about you, but I'd also get pretty annoyed of giving a lengthy answer to a question and then have the exact question asked again a minute later. But you do you.
@@jacekwaasiewicz716 Won't you be tilted if you play against a Challenger being iron or watching your top being literally smashed in all ways against someone who supposedly is as good/bad as you cause you're ranking in Iron. Smurfs should not be allowed and more for those "creators" that want to get easy visits with those videos. I mean, having 2 accounts isn't a bad thing if you play in your level, being main mid in you Challenger account and main jg in another in platinum
Not trying to be rude or anything but.. iron is where most of the new players are trying to learn the game, do you think stomping them will help them enjoy the game? Personally i think smurf accounts should be banned. i compare this to an adult beating up a kid... it doens't make you look strongh
Smurf accounts exist in every game, had ever existed and will always exist. They are an essential part of the game because they fill a purpose, learning something new or trying something out. If you are a Diamond ADC main and you decide you want to learn how to play top, you can't try it for the first time in Diamond elo. You would be greefing your teammates. At the same time, if you are a Diamind mid laner and you hear full ap Nautilus mid is broken, you won't try it in your elo. That would be greefing. At the same If you're challenger in EUW and you move to Korea, you will create a new account and that account it's still a smurf account. What are you going to do? Ban a player because he moved out of his country but he doesn't want to spend like 10 dollars to transfer his account? It's not the players fault that RIOT doesn't have a proper system to detect when a person is or isn't in the correct elo.
@@BS-se4yg ever heard of normal games? you can do anything there even if u are diamond rank lol, but i also agree with your opinion about smurfs, we NEED them!
@@BS-se4yg how do you get diamond without even getting to see the basics of every other lane? either boosted or really really small brain, guess you are low elo thats why you dont understand and dont know xD
@@justinianscrown dude, you are Iron IV player that think he can play any role because you suck equally as much in every single one of them, shut the fuck up if you can't play for shit.
"these are the kind of opponents you are facing you should not be hard stuck" ever think maybe they are the team mates people are getting? Also it's Iron, maybe merc treads were his recommended, I don't expect all irons to know what to build in situations
you cant blame your teamates if you are stuck cause of a few bad games tanked your mmr then you need to play more games otherwise if you are stuck in an elo hell its cause you are not good enough to climb out even a good diamond player can climb back up in a few days everyone gets shit teammates either duo or get better
jay sea got the same team mates.. won game we already know about the 10000's of "unranked to challenger " "bronze to challenger" series. stop trying to push your false propaganda gooder players climb and don't come to me with an argument of "ah i'm hard stuck silver 1, but I know I'm gold 4-3 level, so I should be gold 4" silver 1 and gold 3 are the same shit.. it's not that big of a difference a true silver player level cannot be stuck in iron, can an iron 3 player be stuck in iron 4? sure... but there's little to no difference between a iron 3 and iron
Fogged already answered why he goes Nashors first. For a multiple of reasons. You sustain longer and better in lane. He said the adaptive force you get from runes are better in being AP early on than AD. It's 200 gold cheaper and at that point in the game, the stats you get are more efficient for the price you pay. Essence reaver increases your spin dmg by 130% of 65 which is 84.5 while Nashor's tooth increases it by 100% of 80 which is 80. But in return, Nashor's passive increases your auto attack dmg by 15 + (15% AP) which is 27 extra magic dmg per auto. That plus the attack speed you get from Nashor's tooth is way better early on with your Lethal Tempo. They work harmoniously together to increase the chances of you getting a crit to reduce spin dmg cd since you're attacking more often. Finally, he said he doesn't like to rush Nashor's but prefers to go Stinger into warhammer for a cheaper 20% cdr. Mainly for his ult cd. And then he goes Nashors and then Essence
Okay that is quite a clear explaination. Thank you. I feel the extra crit and raw AD you get through ER will net you higher DPS through your auto attacks, gives you more spins with lethal temp and stinger attack speed. While also still getting early CDR with Stinger before ER. But I suppose its up for debate
Hehe, I write a lot... I know xD I can see where you're coming from though, and I thought that as well. But for some reason, I always feel like I do better in lane with Nashor's first. But I don't really play top often. I'm more of a Jungle main. I just play Trynda top when I get auto filled. But hey, you're the Challenger. I'm just a lowly D III pleb.
wow challenger guy smurfing in iron i wonder how this goes?? most of these people are probably still new to league so it's obvious that they won't be the most knowledgeable and won't be the best players but sure go off and laugh at them if that makes you feel good
i dont play league, i play cs go. Just got this in my recommended and thought " hm how does smurfing in league work" ... watched a bit into the vid, watched the dude talking like a scientist while playing against low tier enemies, cringe af. So yeah, smurfs are cancer, the game does not matter.
Imagine a level 10 faceit vs silver 1 players that Dont know how to shoot or smoke, or flash, além that... I imagine it would be such a challenge game...
marvelous maki The thing you don’t understand is that he is trying to show for people in this elo that whatever champion u pick u Can still be succesfull because of game knowledge. Which is not wrong and everyone Can learn game knowledge and he probably learnt it by vsing smurfs in lower elo aswell
Fogged said he doesn't like going Guinsoo's because that's more of an onhit build. He wants to focus more on spinning and critting. Nashors>Essence>IE gives you 40% CDR, 100% crit (with fury stacked up), 225% crit dmg, 80 AP+ 145 AD. Then he goes Hextech for the extra AD, AP, healing off of spin dmg, and the active 253 + (30%ap) Finally, Deathcap for the ton of AP you get from it. With this build, he can pretty much go into 5, 1 shot the squishies while dealing aoe dmg to those near each other, and then spin out with his ultimate on and then heal up the dmg taken with his Q. Rageblade would heavily reduce his 1 shot potential and be better for if he faced a pretty tanky team Edit: Oh, I forgot he also said that the effects of rageblade didn't help out too much with the spin because due to your runes and items, you already had your spin cd down to about 4 second. And with the 100% crit, you could get off a hit directly with your spin. So now it's reduced to 3 secs. And by the time you've spinned and hit, a second has roughly already passed. 1 more auto and you pretty much have your spin back without Guinsoo's passive ever helping. So basically, youre spin is on a 2 second cd which is already fast enough
I respect you and what you do, but as a bronze player I dislike this. I don't like the idea of a challenger player coming down and smurfing because I already know I'm bad at the game I'm bronze so I really don't need someone to rub it in my face. Atleast try to help people improve In the game instead of just doing this. I appreciate the video and much respect however I disagree completely with it.
dude if this doesnt help you improve your game, i don't know what will. You get to see firsthand how a good player will mirco punish and trade. He explains every move he makes... i found it to be helpful
To start off this little rant, I understand the point of the "Iron IV to Diamond" series, and I know it can be beneficial to lower elo players, but it's just kind of disrespectful the way he talks sometimes. Like the multiple times he mentions the Garen getting merc treads (first being at 10:30), the Garen player is just following the recommended item list he/she was given, the Garen isn't trying to troll or disrespect you. Also saying the way Garen is playing is silly is just kind of annoying, he/she is playing probably as hard as he/she can (just inferring since I don't think the Garen was trolling at all, just being new or not fully understanding the potential of Garen). This also really annoyed me: "You guys should be climbing if you're in iron, okay, this is the kind of opponents you are facing" 15:00 It's just kind of unneeded to say this tbh. But you know, you would think that people in iron league would PLAY like iron players (maybe because they are iron players, but you never know). It's the equivalent of you (being a challenger like you say in the title) going against another challenger player. 16:30 "This Tahm Kench doesn't know what Tryndamere does" Then maybe you should tell him in chat since the whole point of this series is to educate and show struggling low-elo players how to climb. I'm not trying to be a hater or anything, but it's kinda concerning that a challenger trying to teach new players can be completely disconnected from how new players think, or even at times toxic to new or noob players. I just recommend that you try to understand that these players are new and/or they don't know what they're doing. And for anyone that feels like calling me low-elo trash, I was first ranked in Bronze 5, then I slowly increased my rank to Gold 3, so I understand how low-elo players feel about being stuck in "elo hell". Even though you are low rank, you can still try to get better at the game and get little results because I was stuck in Bronze 1/Silver 5 for multiple seasons and I strived to get to gold the whole time, and it took me 4-5 years.
Why are you so upset about Jay Sea's comments? There is nothing to be upset about when it comes to facts, his comments aren't controversial just straight up knowledge and experience. Jay Sea just gave basic criticism to these players.
@@screamtheguy6425 Yes you're right, belittling an iron Garen player and then continues to talk about Garen's merc treads as if he was offended by the "disrespect" for the next couple minutes after pointing the item out. Not everything he says is a fact or full of "knowledge and experience", and you're just ignorant if you think that. Shouldn't that basic criticism at least be constructive? Isn't that the point of the series? Smurfs will always be the worst kind of players in every game, I don't care how much they flaunt that they're doing it to teach low elo players. Teaching low elo doesn't require you to smurf, he could've explained replays of a low elo player's game, or even coached a player through a game and then post the recording of it. Don't try to justify him, he is a smurf, period.
But your tought process doesn't matter. You can be thinking what ever the hell you want, but what you do is what matters, and he's talking here about what matters, not ur cute toughts.
I have heard you gripe about your ping in every single video of yours I have watched. Do you say it just because you want to have an out if you get owned?
@Lol Why If you're a silver player you will climb out of bronze. If you're a gold player you will climb out of silver. It's not complicated at all man.
Superiority complex, bad attitude towards people that clearly don't spend as much time, or have ever tried to understand the game. This is like posting a YT video on "how i beat bots" lmao *clap clap*
@@therealcat5794 Comments give the video more exposure. That's why you heard youtubers say "like, subscribe and comment down below what ur favourite colour is'' or some stupid shit like that, because just like likes and views, comments help help with the youtube algorithm, maybe not as much as likes, but they do.This is facts btw, you can google it to find out for yourself.
don't worry about clickbait or such bro, I see others do it way worse, you actually deliver. And in the end, u got to do what u can to help the channel grow^^
Agreed, as long as it stays in check. People let it get way out of hand really quickly most of the time. I dont want another "WATCH THIS CHALLENGER #1 BEST RENGAR EVER OP BUILD HARD CARRY IN IRON 4 WITH DOUBLE PENTA" Channel please >.
Can we see the bruiser Akali top it’s been played in Korea, but I still lost on how it works so well. Keep up the good work jaysea I look forward to watching your videos every night.
Buddy, I'm in iron 1 now >:( (as if thats any better lmao) and 50 ping is bad? Me and Garen played that game on 200+ consistently and we had to deal with your crap bro. Sincerely: Zinc Sakira, the Ashe. "Is ashe gonna come over? Is she crazy enough-" a 9/0 Trynd who can one shot me what do you think?
Would have been more interesting if he just analyzes an iron trynd instead. I think it's an okay video, but his attitude towards your team was subterranean - a total douchebag. One of Garen's most important stats is his tenacity. So of course an iron Garen will buy Mercury Treads if he goes for Recommended Items and wants to upgrade his boots first. Instead of acknowledging that, he interprets this as disrespect.
I'm sure you can climb more ! Keep it up ! Don't lost hope as long as you take fun in playing ! By the way Garen was so cute to follow recommanded item !
@@csgas0 It's a lack of experience and skill. Most, if not all, league players were noobs who have done blunders like this. Don't think you're higher and better because you're good now.
I don't know the exact answer for your question, but I've read from the chat at his stream, that he sometimes says that he buys stinger, then warhammer. Thus, the adaptative force is always on your AD part. Then you get nashor's. You alredy have 35% CRD, with 1 and half items.
@@JaySea so, you say in order to get: stinger, codex, Warhammer, then buy ER? Too much gold without a completed item maybe? Don't know what's more gold efficient
@@JaySea He goes for the cheapest 30% CDR, which is his way. I do find it that AS only item in trynd is kinda wack. But I guess it's a matter of preference. One thing that should be taken into account, is the wave clear. Which one gets 1 shot backlines sooner
Fogged goes Caulfield hammer + stinger into nashor's first item so he has super early 30% CDR(because he usually picks approach velocity not cosmic insight),more sustain and even better wave clear + attack speed than tiamat(E will 1 shot the wave tiamat will require to auto more than once) and it might sound a little silly but the magic damage on hit can actually be very good against champions who build lots of armor,especially with lethal tempo.
But having the raw AD itself outweighs the onhit damage. The extra crits also outweighs even further the damage, we get 30%CDR with Stinger and ER and more crits means more spins for even more damage again. All traded for onhit damage and AP :thinking: oh and I guess +25% attack speed from stinger into Nashors. But idk it just doesnt add up, you know?
@@JaySea yes that's true the AD version of the build is more powerful for dueling on tryndamere and you really don't lose much early game either, i personally go death's dance instead of gunblade for example, but then again that's tryndamere he's very flexible almost every item works on him lol
My grandpa always told me, "Just do your best, cuz there's always gonna be an asian guy that'll do better" :D Anyhow i follow a lot of youtubers but none of them gave me the information I needed, hard stuck silver 2/3 for the longest time, last season I started watching your vids, went on a 17 game win streak, I ended Gold 4 that season (8). I think I even can make it to gold 1/Plat 4. And all thanks to you man. You give this small tips that are really really helpful. The best youtuber for learning how to play the game. PS: EUW servers are in my opinion one of the hardest to get high elo, just check out redmercy & Yasuo even they had trouble in Plat/diamond.
Idk why everyone is so mad. I climbed from Iron 2 to Gold 4 in one season all thanks to Jay Seas informative series and guides in how to climb. + I'm having fun in every game even if I lose. It's all about the mentality, every loss offers something new and educational that helps you win more in the future. Jay has definitely helped thousands of others to climb by smurfing in low elo and showing what to do differently in what situation. Benefits clearly are higher vs the damage he does by smurfing in low elo.
Nashors + Essence Reaver + Cosmic Insight gives 45% CDR, more spin damage, onhit crits and waveclear. But the main reason for rushing Nashors is for the healing since lethal tempo isn't the best for helping you win lane so the sustain is nice. Also fogged does not rush Nashors. He rushes Warhammer for the raw AD and CDR and then goes essence Reaver. He loves the attack speed, 35% CDR and raw spin damage powerspike that you get from this build super early into the game.
Jay Sea the keystone just feels awkward and useless at times while old conqueror was good in every situation. That is what I meant. If specifics, I would say short trades and 1v5 potential in late game.
Hey Jay Sea, just wanted to say I really enjoy your content. Also, I have an idea for videos that may interest you. It would be really cool if you “reviewed” LoL matches (wins and losses) that your subscribers sent in to watch and highlight key areas where they specifically messed up, missed an opportunity, or just lost the team their game. It would give us low elo players a chance to see why what we are doing is wrong, and a chance to learn that one character just a little bit better. It also would add another dimension to your channel. Just a thought. Many thanks! If you agree, upvote so he sees this!
3:20 because Essence can be delayed more by building Shiv and stinger would waste gold value for the gap duration between completed item. Just a theory. A game theory. Thanks for watching.
This guy talks about his opponents like they know what they're doing... Do you not understand that its iron? Amumu doesn't know how to jungle, garen doesnt know how to build, neither does fizz.
The CDR from Nylashor's is fairly attractive if you're relying on CDR to lower cooldowns on ult, heal, and spin - Essence Reaver requires one more item to realize all the CDR for the build, I think the difference is your play style on Tryn is far less CDR dependent at that phase, and you still just treat it as a 'nice to have' later on, and stay auto-attack focused and leverage macro plays to best make use of that flavor of champion.
Fogged does build nashors first item but he doesnt rush. builds stinger then builds caulfields warhammer. Hes said he does this so his adaptive dmg doesnt change to AP till he gets enough points into E to make use of it and also the big heals from Q in lane are good sustain.
Seeing this video pop off lately which means this sort of title and thumbnail is really something else.
To address popular new comments. The dislikes/hating on Challenger going into Bronze/Iron I literally have over 40+ episodes. Its a series and a climb to show how to climb out of "elo hell" I'd be helping 10s of thousands in favour of the arbitrary 4 bronzies winning and 5 bronzies losing complaint. As for MMA fighter vs 8 year old kid comments. Its more like.. 2 MMA fighters one with more knowledge + techniques than the other fighter. That is what League is all about and it's what I try to teach in all of my videos. I play literally any voted Champion in this series.
Only reason for the extra dislikes on this video is really just the title and thumbnail compared to all other smurf videos in this series.
(Check video description for the Iron to Diamond Playlist link)
shut up man it is still not right to bash noobs like this
Keep doing what your doing, it helps me out massively watching your vids for tips and tricks. finally got out of iron because of your vids.
Dont mind these haters, haters gunna hate, you do you and keep helping us noobies out :D
People are hating for a reason, no matter how you try to justify it, it's disgusting. And you're not challenger mate.
@@tompreller3705 not right, you mean morally right? in LoL are you complaining about the morality of LoL players? are you delusional man?
A good way to get out of Elo Hell is to not have some dork smurfing in your game for views. lol
I like how you try to analize the game saying things like "amumu won't gank me 'cause he got to farm" or "maybe i can find amumu in the river". I'm like "dude, u're playing in Iron, you can't predict the thoughts in a Iron players' mind".
People in Iron are actualy having fun in this toxic set up game.
its pretty easy predict when you have muchc experience ...
@@luciangv3252 I guess you didn't understand. You can't rely on experience in iron when every player that's in this division is kinda 'retarded'
In 'AN' iron players mind
You can predict it based on Champion. If Amumu farms it is the best play. If he ganks it will be a very weak gank.
"I have so high ping" - has 50ms
Me with 300/400ms - "this is fine"
Haha true
I used to have 700 ping at my last place every day after 8pm local time, one of the reasons I moved
Brother he doesn't understand us asians playing in north america servers
Pokin Patrick close, European playing in Korea
it matters more when you're in higher elo
JS: You guys should be climbing out of this elo easily
Me: Get hype to climb. Loads up League. Gets Diamond smurf in lane.
Also Me: :O
This hehuheuhe
The Garen is low Elo:
In lowelo the player often buy whats recommended in the shop.
Thats why he bought mercurys. Its not that hes trolling. He is just bad.
It's iron.
He got mercs because it is in the recommended list
Erik I he actually thought the iron 4 was disrespecting him. Not quite the challenger brain, maybe the trym main brain tho :/
sad
@@silspieard7417 That's not what "disrespect" means in that sense. He wasn't saying Garen was trying to taunt him or something. He was saying he wasn't respecting his damage. Just like when he said "I'm not respecting the jg cause their a bottom jungler and won't gank here much".
@@Archeides He calls Garen's build a troll build at 20:02
@@arulmuralidharan5609 It's actually troll build what's wrong
"if you guys are in iron you should be climbing because these are the opponents you are facing" It's also the teammates you'll be playing with.
Amen!!!! PREACH DA TRUTH
Bryan Ducker I’m not in iron I just understand the struggle.
@@bryanducker2898 Oh no no no. There was one time I was kat, and I had a huge lead. I ganked lanes. I stole drags. Won teamfights, etc. They were smart enough to start focusing me. Then I died. Then my teammates died. This was already very far into the game, and with everyone else not doing so well, some even feeding heavily, there was nothing anyone could do. They pushed, and The End. If everyone on his team was feeding, it wouldve been a bit harder for him to carry. He would've won lane, but it was also because his cait was my counter (ashe) it was hard for me down at bot. For him, bot was winning, top (obviously) was winning, and jungle was winning (our amumu was p. crap, not really ganking much or well, if memory serves) But at least amumu was a tank, he had a bit higher sustain. Me on the other hand, it was hard to catch up, if even get ahead. It was a lost game but at least we didn't surrender.
There's 5 ''bad'' players on the enemy team, if you're good there'll be 4 on your team. If you deserve to get out, you will easily. Also, they iron/bronze mind is to blame teammates.
@@zincsakira1579 well, since you are an iron/bronze level player yourself you can't really expect to carry a game like a challenger would
"It adds to the challenge." Wait... what challenge. You are smurfing in Iron... with your main.
yeah right? so cringy saying that lol.... what challenge?
Haven't played this in years, what the heck is Iron league? Did they rename Bronze to Iron to make people feel less shitty about themselves, since brown is often associated with literal shit?
No Bronze players got so shitty they had add a lower tier.
That garen isnt even that bad though... He is actually playing better than most in silver. Against a challenger.
@@unclebenz86 No, he is utter shit
A challenger smurfing in iron is like a pro MMA fighter picks a fight with a kid lol
I can see it now: Jon Jones oblique kicking and eye poking a 13 year old at a casual gym
Or like an MMA pro fightin a gamerboy, who is mainly showing his ability as a experienced player in the highest division / league for solo/duo, how to stomp the weakest and / or beginners in the game and calling it challenge.
In this "challenge" jay would ff faster then 20.
Just imagine how hilarious it would be if the mma pro beeing interviewed after jay sea's K.O. in 5 seconds as a result of the first just "test" punch (more like a bitschslap) in his face, and the pro says completly serious: "Yeah i forced a fast knockout. I am kinda happy that i had success. It was a challenge for me to show i am way better."
But you know... it adds to the challenge if you give some boxing gloves to the kid
Except in this case. It's more like 2 equal fighters with one who has better knowledge than the other. All this game comes down to is practice and knowledge which I teach the latter in my videos.
@@JaySea Except it isn't, your excuses just makes you look even more ridiculous.
I don't necessarily mind smurfs. Yeah, they're frustrating but if I have a smurf in my game, I accept the loss, try to learn some things and move on. I understand not everyone is like this, and I understand the tilt some people get when it comes to smurfs.
The thing that's really annoying about this smurf, is the way he's 'teaching'. Yeah, he gives some insight on builds, but it'd be a bit more appreciated if he explained more why he's doing certain things IE. Why he's going all-in vs. not going all-in during a certain situation. Most of his teaching is "Don't suck and you'll get out of Iron/Bronze." Maybe explain what an enemy is doing right/wrong in a situation, and how you would have handled it. If a teammate makes a mistake, let them know in an obviously respectful way.
This could be a great Iron to Diamond series. But going "These players are bad" makes you look silly when you're a fucking Challenger player in literally the lowest rank of the game.
+ being a total asshole to his enemies
"Garen buys Mercury Treads (his recommended boots). --> He MUST be disrespecting me." like wtf dude
If you’re really wanting this teaching your talking about, I regularly watch Pekin Woof. He’s a very skilled challenger and he explains all these things you’ve mentioned in your comments. He also coaches/teaches lessons to lower Elo players. I recommend him for sure.
To add to that, when he does smurf, he does it to educate and explain what the opponent is doing wrong and why he’s able to take advantage/punish/trade so well. Seriously I’d look into it, his vids have definitely improved my gameplay, not this smurf “ur shit at this game”.
Also search up Lol Dobby to learn some champs
This should be called "unnecessarily overanalysing an iron game"
So you stop analyzing in-game matchups until the point you're now in Platinum and you get constantly outplayed because you didn't learn to analyze matches from Iron :)
@Jay Sea regarding fogged going nashors>ER... fogged goes stinger - warhammer - nashors - ER, unless he has enough gold to buy ER outright. The buying path is cheaper for nashors and he's trying to gain max CDR as quickly as possible. Great videos man keep up the good work!
Fogged probably doesn't answer Jay on why he buys those in that order cause he gets asked it like a million times. I remember one of his videos he almost lost his cool answering it for probably the 1000th time in a sitting lmao.
Also I think fogged explained that he wanted to get the cheaper items first for their 'mini power spikes'. More spikes more often to snowball faster.
Also getting that little bit of AP from the fiendish codex has saved his life a few times, with the slightly better Q heal. 900 Gold for 10% CDR and 35 AP is a pretty good bargain.
the reason fogged went stinger to warhammer to nashor is too get as much AD he could before going AP. Early Nashor gives less dmg than AD.
@Al Bundy I don't know about you, but I'd also get pretty annoyed of giving a lengthy answer to a question and then have the exact question asked again a minute later. But you do you.
I love when streamers are like “oh my god ping so bad” and I’m here like 60 ping is a great day
gabriel billings 60 ping is bad?
Bruh mine goes from 90 to 700 real quick
I've seen 60 ping once in my life
I'm always playing with 110 ping, and you are saying that it's horrible, and to me it's like heaven
@@alejandrorosascuesta4747 it's because you think that it's good, you haven't played with any better and are used to it
The opponents you'll be facing in iron are Garens with mercs....
and also Challenger smurf Tryndameres
He was just trying to follow one of the three builds he found online :(
NO RANK IS SAFE
Stop going in to iron, so frustrating for iron Players
The Viewer yeah smurfs are just scum
Smurfs ruin the game
Keklord That’s why old level system was better. You have to buy or borrow accout. Now everyone can smurf.
@@nadpnw smurfs don't ruin the game, toxic players who flame others don't ruin the game BUT the int feeders, afks and trolls does do it very well.
@@jacekwaasiewicz716 Won't you be tilted if you play against a Challenger being iron or watching your top being literally smashed in all ways against someone who supposedly is as good/bad as you cause you're ranking in Iron. Smurfs should not be allowed and more for those "creators" that want to get easy visits with those videos. I mean, having 2 accounts isn't a bad thing if you play in your level, being main mid in you Challenger account and main jg in another in platinum
Not trying to be rude or anything but.. iron is where most of the new players are trying to learn the game, do you think stomping them will help them enjoy the game? Personally i think smurf accounts should be banned.
i compare this to an adult beating up a kid... it doens't make you look strongh
Smurf accounts exist in every game, had ever existed and will always exist. They are an essential part of the game because they fill a purpose, learning something new or trying something out. If you are a Diamond ADC main and you decide you want to learn how to play top, you can't try it for the first time in Diamond elo. You would be greefing your teammates. At the same time, if you are a Diamind mid laner and you hear full ap Nautilus mid is broken, you won't try it in your elo. That would be greefing. At the same If you're challenger in EUW and you move to Korea, you will create a new account and that account it's still a smurf account. What are you going to do? Ban a player because he moved out of his country but he doesn't want to spend like 10 dollars to transfer his account? It's not the players fault that RIOT doesn't have a proper system to detect when a person is or isn't in the correct elo.
@@BS-se4yg ever heard of normal games? you can do anything there even if u are diamond rank lol, but i also agree with your opinion about smurfs, we NEED them!
@@BS-se4yg how do you get diamond without even getting to see the basics of every other lane? either boosted or really really small brain, guess you are low elo thats why you dont understand and dont know xD
It was my job to comfort a very depressed Garen right after :( I don't see how this is entertaining.
@@justinianscrown dude, you are Iron IV player that think he can play any role because you suck equally as much in every single one of them, shut the fuck up if you can't play for shit.
Smurfing on his main against Iron players, but lags
Jay Sea: ChAlLeNgE aCcEpTeD
"these are the kind of opponents you are facing you should not be hard stuck" ever think maybe they are the team mates people are getting? Also it's Iron, maybe merc treads were his recommended, I don't expect all irons to know what to build in situations
you cant blame your teamates if you are stuck cause of a few bad games tanked your mmr then you need to play more games otherwise if you are stuck in an elo hell its cause you are not good enough to climb out even a good diamond player can climb back up in a few days everyone gets shit teammates either duo or get better
jay sea got the same team mates.. won game we already know about the 10000's of "unranked to challenger " "bronze to challenger" series. stop trying to push your false propaganda
gooder players climb
and don't come to me with an argument of "ah i'm hard stuck silver 1, but I know I'm gold 4-3 level, so I should be gold 4" silver 1 and gold 3 are the same shit.. it's not that big of a difference
a true silver player level cannot be stuck in iron, can an iron 3 player be stuck in iron 4? sure... but there's little to no difference between a iron 3 and iron
+marden imagine being iron and blaming ur teammates 💀💀💀
Fogged already answered why he goes Nashors first. For a multiple of reasons.
You sustain longer and better in lane.
He said the adaptive force you get from runes are better in being AP early on than AD.
It's 200 gold cheaper and at that point in the game, the stats you get are more efficient for the price you pay.
Essence reaver increases your spin dmg by 130% of 65 which is 84.5 while Nashor's tooth increases it by 100% of 80 which is 80. But in return, Nashor's passive increases your auto attack dmg by 15 + (15% AP) which is 27 extra magic dmg per auto.
That plus the attack speed you get from Nashor's tooth is way better early on with your Lethal Tempo. They work harmoniously together to increase the chances of you getting a crit to reduce spin dmg cd since you're attacking more often.
Finally, he said he doesn't like to rush Nashor's but prefers to go Stinger into warhammer for a cheaper 20% cdr. Mainly for his ult cd. And then he goes Nashors and then Essence
Okay that is quite a clear explaination. Thank you.
I feel the extra crit and raw AD you get through ER will net you higher DPS through your auto attacks, gives you more spins with lethal temp and stinger attack speed. While also still getting early CDR with Stinger before ER. But I suppose its up for debate
Hehe, I write a lot... I know xD
I can see where you're coming from though, and I thought that as well. But for some reason, I always feel like I do better in lane with Nashor's first. But I don't really play top often. I'm more of a Jungle main. I just play Trynda top when I get auto filled. But hey, you're the Challenger. I'm just a lowly D III pleb.
owo
@@JaySea When he backs and already has stinger and enough gold for ER he will finish it.
Can we get some Kled?
Finally
He was his second favourite champ at the last year BTD
Who cares about Kled
Cheap champs or he has to spend the RP
full ad crit kled
These are the players you're playing against in iron. "CHALLENGER Tryndamere Goes Into IRON!" Kinda smug.
High ping 50 ms, challenger beats iron. Very impressive. Very. Can't wait for the next video when you playing vs bronze.
his ping was fluctuating from ~30 to ~200 the entire game, do you need glasses?
@@sixuals The point is that he is smurfing fucktard abortion
@@sixuals he was crying when it was steady at 50 lmao
wow challenger guy smurfing in iron i wonder how this goes?? most of these people are probably still new to league so it's obvious that they won't be the most knowledgeable and won't be the best players but sure go off and laugh at them if that makes you feel good
i dont play league, i play cs go. Just got this in my recommended and thought " hm how does smurfing in league work" ... watched a bit into the vid, watched the dude talking like a scientist while playing against low tier enemies, cringe af. So yeah, smurfs are cancer, the game does not matter.
Imagine a level 10 faceit vs silver 1 players that Dont know how to shoot or smoke, or flash, além that... I imagine it would be such a challenge game...
marvelous maki The thing you don’t understand is that he is trying to show for people in this elo that whatever champion u pick u Can still be succesfull because of game knowledge. Which is not wrong and everyone Can learn game knowledge and he probably learnt it by vsing smurfs in lower elo aswell
New players shouldn't be playing ranked. If you're in Iron/Bronze/Silver, you deserve to be laughed at.
@@obscene. Iron, Bronze, and Silver are made to classify new players...
Smurfs are by far the worst thing in league. You are just ruining the experience for others and its unfair.
That's why people should just get better at the game.
You expect an iron to magically be better than a challenger
that right
Finally, I was looking for this comment
get gud.
Fogged said he doesn't like going Guinsoo's because that's more of an onhit build. He wants to focus more on spinning and critting.
Nashors>Essence>IE gives you 40% CDR, 100% crit (with fury stacked up), 225% crit dmg, 80 AP+ 145 AD.
Then he goes Hextech for the extra AD, AP, healing off of spin dmg, and the active 253 + (30%ap)
Finally, Deathcap for the ton of AP you get from it.
With this build, he can pretty much go into 5, 1 shot the squishies while dealing aoe dmg to those near each other, and then spin out with his ultimate on and then heal up the dmg taken with his Q.
Rageblade would heavily reduce his 1 shot potential and be better for if he faced a pretty tanky team
Edit:
Oh, I forgot he also said that the effects of rageblade didn't help out too much with the spin because due to your runes and items, you already had your spin cd down to about 4 second. And with the 100% crit, you could get off a hit directly with your spin. So now it's reduced to 3 secs. And by the time you've spinned and hit, a second has roughly already passed. 1 more auto and you pretty much have your spin back without Guinsoo's passive ever helping. So basically, youre spin is on a 2 second cd which is already fast enough
''i can feel the delay'' literly has no delay.
Wrecked there is delay in 80 and up especially when u play in high elo plat and over it matters alot u cant land alistars combo in that ping
Even when my ping gets on 50 I feel delay
When you're used to really low ping and play at 80+ ping you can feel the difference
I play on 35ms normally and hopped on pbe to try something new and the 130ms from pbe feels like a -60% attack speed nerf on all champions for me
theres a delay on 40ms
I respect you and what you do, but as a bronze player I dislike this. I don't like the idea of a challenger player coming down and smurfing because I already know I'm bad at the game I'm bronze so I really don't need someone to rub it in my face. Atleast try to help people improve In the game instead of just doing this. I appreciate the video and much respect however I disagree completely with it.
dude if this doesnt help you improve your game, i don't know what will. You get to see firsthand how a good player will mirco punish and trade. He explains every move he makes... i found it to be helpful
You'll never get out of bronze, so there is no point to be mad :)
@@cooldoggo3172 What?
Your opinion doesn’t matter you are bronze
@@cooldoggo3172 I'm not mad and thanks
That Moment when Tryndamere is your Main Champ...
life´s gone
I think fogs preference is due to the ap scaling on E combined with the Q heal, he loves everything to do with the spin
He likes the AP for the oneshot waveclear.
To start off this little rant, I understand the point of the "Iron IV to Diamond" series, and I know it can be beneficial to lower elo players, but it's just kind of disrespectful the way he talks sometimes.
Like the multiple times he mentions the Garen getting merc treads (first being at 10:30), the Garen player is just following the recommended item list he/she was given, the Garen isn't trying to troll or disrespect you. Also saying the way Garen is playing is silly is just kind of annoying, he/she is playing probably as hard as he/she can (just inferring since I don't think the Garen was trolling at all, just being new or not fully understanding the potential of Garen).
This also really annoyed me: "You guys should be climbing if you're in iron, okay, this is the kind of opponents you are facing" 15:00 It's just kind of unneeded to say this tbh. But you know, you would think that people in iron league would PLAY like iron players (maybe because they are iron players, but you never know). It's the equivalent of you (being a challenger like you say in the title) going against another challenger player.
16:30 "This Tahm Kench doesn't know what Tryndamere does" Then maybe you should tell him in chat since the whole point of this series is to educate and show struggling low-elo players how to climb.
I'm not trying to be a hater or anything, but it's kinda concerning that a challenger trying to teach new players can be completely disconnected from how new players think, or even at times toxic to new or noob players. I just recommend that you try to understand that these players are new and/or they don't know what they're doing. And for anyone that feels like calling me low-elo trash, I was first ranked in Bronze 5, then I slowly increased my rank to Gold 3, so I understand how low-elo players feel about being stuck in "elo hell". Even though you are low rank, you can still try to get better at the game and get little results because I was stuck in Bronze 1/Silver 5 for multiple seasons and I strived to get to gold the whole time, and it took me 4-5 years.
Saying someone is trolling doesn’t just mean they are trying to throw the game or grief
Just get good at the game LOL
Why are you so upset about Jay Sea's comments? There is nothing to be upset about when it comes to facts, his comments aren't controversial just straight up knowledge and experience. Jay Sea just gave basic criticism to these players.
@@screamtheguy6425 Yes you're right, belittling an iron Garen player and then continues to talk about Garen's merc treads as if he was offended by the "disrespect" for the next couple minutes after pointing the item out. Not everything he says is a fact or full of "knowledge and experience", and you're just ignorant if you think that. Shouldn't that basic criticism at least be constructive? Isn't that the point of the series? Smurfs will always be the worst kind of players in every game, I don't care how much they flaunt that they're doing it to teach low elo players. Teaching low elo doesn't require you to smurf, he could've explained replays of a low elo player's game, or even coached a player through a game and then post the recording of it. Don't try to justify him, he is a smurf, period.
But your tought process doesn't matter. You can be thinking what ever the hell you want, but what you do is what matters, and he's talking here about what matters, not ur cute toughts.
16:48 _"I blame lag"_
You had 34 ms at that moment xD
ikr
r/whoosh
intervals he’s not joking
sub pls? he definitely was
you can have lag without your ms spiking if your internet stops suddenly then continues after a second or two. happens to me sometimes
I have heard you gripe about your ping in every single video of yours I have watched. Do you say it just because you want to have an out if you get owned?
If he gets owned he is not gonna upload the video dumbass
Yay, the people playing against you much have had so much fun.....
*must
yea, but just imagine how his team felt feeding on every lane and having a 16/0 trynda
Ad sion top, or any sion top really
Ap sion 0w0
@@adamcederlund2472 ap rengar
INTING Sion Pog
Never heard a Challenger player say "I got ks'ed there".
16:49 : “I blame lag” *ping 30ms*
"You shouldn't be hardstuck" and then you play against someone like him
While having an equal number of games WITH someone like him.
He aint that good tbh coming from dia player
Smurfing is disrespecting the game.
The whole point is he climbs out.. to prove elo hell is bullshit.
@Lol Why If you're a silver player you will climb out of bronze. If you're a gold player you will climb out of silver. It's not complicated at all man.
Superiority complex, bad attitude towards people that clearly don't spend as much time, or have ever tried to understand the game.
This is like posting a YT video on "how i beat bots" lmao *clap clap*
he got half a mill views which means a ton of money and ur comment gives the video even more exposure so this is prolly not gonna be the last one
@Gukani Guk That's exactly how it works.This man makes hella bands with this series.Don't hate on another mans hustle.
@@hecatrice2064 how does it give more exposure someone is gonna have to be watching this video and in the comment section to find his comment
@@therealcat5794 Comments give the video more exposure. That's why you heard youtubers say "like, subscribe and comment down below what ur favourite colour is'' or some stupid shit like that, because just like likes and views, comments help help with the youtube algorithm, maybe not as much as likes, but they do.This is facts btw, you can google it to find out for yourself.
I vote for YOUR CHOICE of champion and build for the next episode! Surprise us with something awesome!
I like how he doesn't underestiamte his enemies and still tries to play the game like he's facing off with players in his rank
I got this in my recommendations and it almost made me cry. It made me remember all the good times i had watching you. Hope you are doing well!
THIS IS THE REASON NEW PLAYERS NEVER LEARN THE GAME
0/9/0 Garen. Buys mercs there. 4,500G. I do feel bad for him, lol.
every fail is a lag
My favorite time of the day....chillin and watching Jay Sea top lane :)
Does this build is the best for Tryn right now? I mean is it more efficient than tiamat->stattik>ie ?
don't worry about clickbait or such bro, I see others do it way worse, you actually deliver. And in the end, u got to do what u can to help the channel grow^^
Agreed, as long as it stays in check. People let it get way out of hand really quickly most of the time. I dont want another "WATCH THIS CHALLENGER #1 BEST RENGAR EVER OP BUILD HARD CARRY IN IRON 4 WITH DOUBLE PENTA" Channel please >.
@@xXBenutzer235Xx lol you are right but i prefer chrome cause its way faster
Nice videos Jay.
14:50 we're stuck in iron because we are those players
Why not Nashors into deaths dance? Don’t you waste mana stat in essence reaver? Or even shojins??
Can we see the bruiser Akali top it’s been played in Korea, but I still lost on how it works so well.
Keep up the good work jaysea I look forward to watching your videos every night.
Darius- show us how to dunk Jay Sempai
Buddy, I'm in iron 1 now >:( (as if thats any better lmao)
and 50 ping is bad? Me and Garen played that game on 200+ consistently and we had to deal with your crap bro.
Sincerely: Zinc Sakira, the Ashe.
"Is ashe gonna come over? Is she crazy enough-"
a 9/0 Trynd who can one shot me what do you think?
Would have been more interesting if he just analyzes an iron trynd instead.
I think it's an okay video,
but his attitude towards your team was subterranean - a total douchebag.
One of Garen's most important stats is his tenacity. So of course an iron Garen will buy Mercury Treads if he goes for Recommended Items and wants to upgrade his boots first. Instead of acknowledging that, he interprets this as disrespect.
How the fuck are you in iron
League is like the caste system. You don't get respect unless you rank up
I'm sure you can climb more ! Keep it up ! Don't lost hope as long as you take fun in playing ! By the way Garen was so cute to follow recommanded item !
@@UndercoverWerbung _sometimes I ask this question myself-_
My favorite thing about trynd is how quickly he can kill the rift herald by himself.
Oof. We already know this is going to be good.
Absolutely love the RS music at the end, brings me back to my childhood
I lost it. I looked up at my gf geeekin "THIS SONG IS LIKE A PORTAL THROUGH TIME, YOU DONT EVEN KNOW"
Thank you for all the helpful tips. I've been playing league for a long time and never knew there was an attack champions only key.
Man, if you have challenger with this ping I respect you so much
Play Xerath for us at least once! All skill shots makes for a satisfying smurf experience.
You got it fam
Garen: I GOT SMURF!!!!!!!
Enemy team: Here we go again......
thats mean they arent trolling, they just lack intelligence, its rude to say they are doing it on purpose... lol
lack in knowledge*
@@denisb2971 a lot of them lack intelligence as well.
@@csgas0 Great illustration for the toxicity of league.
@@csgas0 It's a lack of experience and skill. Most, if not all, league players were noobs who have done blunders like this. Don't think you're higher and better because you're good now.
I love your videos XD! Its funny see the iron people recognize you and accept his destiny
Electrocute Pyke top. Tiamat first for wave clear then lethality items
I don't know the exact answer for your question, but I've read from the chat at his stream, that he sometimes says that he buys stinger, then warhammer. Thus, the adaptative force is always on your AD part. Then you get nashor's. You alredy have 35% CRD, with 1 and half items.
Q heal with codex is pretty adictive too
Asking why Nashors gets completed first over ER thats the question I was asking
@@JaySea so, you say in order to get: stinger, codex, Warhammer, then buy ER? Too much gold without a completed item maybe? Don't know what's more gold efficient
@@zoso9391 No Just Stinger Into ER
Rather than Stinger Caufields into Nashors
@@JaySea He goes for the cheapest 30% CDR, which is his way.
I do find it that AS only item in trynd is kinda wack. But I guess it's a matter of preference.
One thing that should be taken into account, is the wave clear. Which one gets 1 shot backlines sooner
I think nashor for the cdr if he uses ult before, the enemy wont expect the ult again like the match up he had against irelia
Fogged goes Caulfield hammer + stinger into nashor's first item so he has super early 30% CDR(because he usually picks approach velocity not cosmic insight),more sustain and even better wave clear + attack speed than tiamat(E will 1 shot the wave tiamat will require to auto more than once) and it might sound a little silly but the magic damage on hit can actually be very good against champions who build lots of armor,especially with lethal tempo.
But having the raw AD itself outweighs the onhit damage. The extra crits also outweighs even further the damage, we get 30%CDR with Stinger and ER and more crits means more spins for even more damage again. All traded for onhit damage and AP :thinking: oh and I guess +25% attack speed from stinger into Nashors. But idk it just doesnt add up, you know?
@@JaySea yes that's true the AD version of the build is more powerful for dueling on tryndamere and you really don't lose much early game either, i personally go death's dance instead of gunblade for example, but then again that's tryndamere he's very flexible almost every item works on him lol
Imagine blamimg lag for missing an ability when you are under 30ms.
I can’t cuz I don’t know what 30ms feels like
Watching you play Tryndamere reminds me why I hate vs'ing him lol
Now you feeling good to clap some iron Boys? Shame on you!
I smell iron player here
I love your Tryndamere videos, keep the good work bro!
My grandpa always told me, "Just do your best, cuz there's always gonna be an asian guy that'll do better" :D
Anyhow i follow a lot of youtubers but none of them gave me the information I needed, hard stuck silver 2/3 for the longest time, last season I started watching your vids, went on a 17 game win streak, I ended Gold 4 that season (8). I think I even can make it to gold 1/Plat 4. And all thanks to you man. You give this small tips that are really really helpful. The best youtuber for learning how to play the game. PS: EUW servers are in my opinion one of the hardest to get high elo, just check out redmercy & Yasuo even they had trouble in Plat/diamond.
EUW is the hardest for me because I have over 500 ping playing on there
@@JaySea That's just unplayable :O Thx for replying man appreciate it!
Idk why everyone is so mad. I climbed from Iron 2 to Gold 4 in one season all thanks to Jay Seas informative series and guides in how to climb. + I'm having fun in every game even if I lose. It's all about the mentality, every loss offers something new and educational that helps you win more in the future. Jay has definitely helped thousands of others to climb by smurfing in low elo and showing what to do differently in what situation. Benefits clearly are higher vs the damage he does by smurfing in low elo.
mate I am the tham kench and I just wanted you to save ult sry I guess...
Tell us how far did u get these days :D with ranked
Can you do at the start of one of your videos, a quick show of what your PC build is and what not?
"unofficial penta" dude, why do you even care about that in Iron? lol
Nashors + Essence Reaver + Cosmic Insight gives 45% CDR, more spin damage, onhit crits and waveclear. But the main reason for rushing Nashors is for the healing since lethal tempo isn't the best for helping you win lane so the sustain is nice. Also fogged does not rush Nashors. He rushes Warhammer for the raw AD and CDR and then goes essence Reaver. He loves the attack speed, 35% CDR and raw spin damage powerspike that you get from this build super early into the game.
Lethal Tempo is amazing for lane early game compared to conqueror including the old one. Just want to correct that part
Jay Sea the keystone just feels awkward and useless at times while old conqueror was good in every situation. That is what I meant. If specifics, I would say short trades and 1v5 potential in late game.
I can't watch this. I'm cringing and feeling guilty for thinking of these poor Iron players being slaughtered.
Darius top! darius is the champ that got you the 2.2 million views! im surprised we are this far into the series and he hasnt been voted in yet.
yeaaha baby just come home from a tough exam and found a jay sea video. time to chill eat and watch
haha, so nice "i could've gone all in but i feel sad for him" :D
the other team must be like "REPORT GAREN!"
sad
Oh my, that RuneScape song at the end, so nostalgic xD
Hey Jay Sea, just wanted to say I really enjoy your content. Also, I have an idea for videos that may interest you. It would be really cool if you “reviewed” LoL matches (wins and losses) that your subscribers sent in to watch and highlight key areas where they specifically messed up, missed an opportunity, or just lost the team their game. It would give us low elo players a chance to see why what we are doing is wrong, and a chance to learn that one character just a little bit better. It also would add another dimension to your channel. Just a thought. Many thanks!
If you agree, upvote so he sees this!
3:20 because Essence can be delayed more by building Shiv and stinger would waste gold value for the gap duration between completed item. Just a theory. A game theory. Thanks for watching.
This guy talks about his opponents like they know what they're doing...
Do you not understand that its iron?
Amumu doesn't know how to jungle, garen doesnt know how to build, neither does fizz.
Me in Iron: Fights against 3 different smurfs
Anyone in Challenger fighting Iron: Inexplicably gets real iron 5 players
Iron and bronze is filled with smurf nowadays. Hard to climb
Love your videos dude! Keep up the good work!
150cs at 15 minutes...
"Pretty decent cs"
I get that in an entire game which is ussually 30 min.. lol
I can geyt in 18 min 150 cs
I'm gold now
The CDR from Nylashor's is fairly attractive if you're relying on CDR to lower cooldowns on ult, heal, and spin - Essence Reaver requires one more item to realize all the CDR for the build, I think the difference is your play style on Tryn is far less CDR dependent at that phase, and you still just treat it as a 'nice to have' later on, and stay auto-attack focused and leverage macro plays to best make use of that flavor of champion.
This guy is definitely not a Challenger in na or euw. He plays like a diamond 5 player on euw
Where does he play?
Na and eU is trash
@@bobmarley8335 where do you play then?
Korean server
@@bobmarley8335 sureeeeee
Smurfing is such a despicable act. Pathetic and disrespectful towards other players
this is ban worthy material.
I enjoy how informative your vids are compared to all the other learn to play league vids
I enjoy knowing what's going through good players head
*fails* I thought my spin is gonna.... I blame lag . 🤣🤣
10:29 - best part of this video hands down. also the best teaching moment in league in general. Yes, the type of boots purchased matters!
Can we have Akali top bruiser???
Fogged does build nashors first item but he doesnt rush. builds stinger then builds caulfields warhammer. Hes said he does this so his adaptive dmg doesnt change to AP till he gets enough points into E to make use of it and also the big heals from Q in lane are good sustain.
Bro for real, my team was all flaming me bcs i fed you... hey im garen :((( why u do that man