I have to agree with Rob I'm afraid Doug. I think one of the reasons why Jurassic World will NEVER live up to the first film is because well, we all grew up seeing it. We all had a feeling of joy and excitement the first time watching the film and we want to have a feeling like that again. But. It can only happen once. You can never get that feeling back. Now Jurassic World isn't a perfect movie but I'd say its a great movie overall when you look at it as just a film. Its a sequel yes. But if you go in thinking this will be as ground breaking as the first film you will be disappointed. I give the creators a lot of credit because the one thing I thought they did really well was take the Dinosaurs and make them into Animals again.Treat them with the respect you would an actual living being. The second and third films just make the Dino's out to be just action set pieces and nothing more which is what ultimately betrays the thought of the first movie. Jurassic World in my eyes is the true successor to the first film because for the most part it lives up to not only John Hammond's vision but also Spielberg's vision too. Treating the Animals like real living creatures instead of movie monsters. Jurassic World is a great film. Its not as good as the first but the makers didn't want it to be. They just wanted to tell a story and try and give people that feeling they got when they were children. They may not of succeeded on every level. But the love for the original is definitely there. Me personally I thought the CGI looked fine and well if you didn't enjoy the film or thought it was underwhelming I understand. Each to their own. I just got such an overwhelming feeling of love and enjoyment out of this film that I'd happily see it again and again. I love the Jurassic Park franchise and I am glad we have a true sequel to the first.
JokerJawzDude92 Sometimes, I wake up to the sound of that annoying ring tone from the cell phone in Jurassic Park 3 and the sight of that ugly kid's face. I feel cold and clammy, and then the inanity of the plot is suddenly reminded. "Why did Dr. Grant say he would never go back on that island and does it anyway? Why are those parents so irresponsible to get all those people killed for a dumb paragliding ride?" Jurassic Park 3 was like my Vietnam. That movie sucked so hard. People rage about Batman & Robin but that movie knew it was cheesy and stupid and had fun with it; JP3 was like the youngest brother of the high school football captain who can't pass, throw, or run the ball trying to say, "look at me, everyone! I can be just as good!" Screw that movie.
I know what you mean but i have mastered the art of taking my nostalgia goggles off and its a whole new world people. It's not easy to do but its worth it
David Imani I remember it being bad, but it didn't pull me out of the movie. Guess I didn't notice it much, because I was busy trying to suspend my disbelief over all the other issues this movie had going.
***** I thought the CGI was fine. Certainly better than JP3. But I think we're so used to seeing CGI by now that we find it a lot easier to criticize. And in the original JP, the CGI was very minimal. But now, its easier and cheaper to do it, so they get a little heavy-handed with it. That's what got on my nerves about the Star Wars prequels. It looked like a video game most of the time.
I, also, thought the CGI was pretty good. What particularly comes to mind is when we first see the tamed raptors (obviously, it’s debatable as to how best to describe them: tamed, domesticated, subservient to Owen). I was just glad they went back to the JP raptors and not the JP3 ones. As for Doug’s perceptions of some of the plot holes, the teams that went out to find Indominus, I’m not surprised they didn’t know what to expect. Since when does a company make sure all employees are aware of everything that might happen in a situation? I saw at least 4 separate areas that may or may not know what is going on between each other: the science lab, day-to-day operations, management, animal control… What is the likelyhood that the left hand is going to tell the right hand what is going on? In all honesty, I like James and Mike’s review of the movie better. Furthermore, I consider this an intellectual popcorn flick. It’s smart enough to keep you interested and mindless enough to just sit back and enjoy.
The Sibling Rivalries where both Doug and Rob disagree with each other are much more fun and interesting to watch than the ones where they just echo each other's thoughts.
Clock this is the one exception where i HATE that. Most of the time, Doug kept on interrupting Rob, and honestly the whole i saw Doug as this kid who was throwing a tantrum because he didn't get what he wanted. I usually like these sibling rivalries where the two have opposites opinions, but Doug ruined the whole thing for me.
killer92173 what are you talking about. He makes legitimately good points and his ways of complaining about it is similar to how he plays the nostalgia critic when he gets really angry. So I don’t know why you hated it
Let me summarize this video: Rob: I'd like to have a rational discussion about this Doug: I WILL SCREECH AND RAMBLE ON ABOUT HOW I HATE THIS MOVIE BUT I ALSO LOVE THIS MOVIE! Rob: ...okay, but can we talk about- Doug: I WANT THIS TO BE A GORY BLOODFEST AND A DUMB 70s DISASTER FILM AT THE SAME TIME! Rob; Okay, I can see that, but- Doug: I WILL MAKE INCORRECT STATEMENTS ABOUT THE FILM AND THE DINOSAURS WHILE FLAILING MY ARMS ABOUT AND OH I HATE THIS I HATE THIS... ITS A GREAT MOVIE. Rob:...how the hell are we related?
Kevin Allen this is VERY accurate, and your comment is seriously underrated. It's funny though because in most of their sibling rivalries, the roles are reversed.
Hahahahaha! Although I like both Doug and Rob very much, I am nonetheless quite entertained by your comment, even though it's at Doug's expense. They can be kind of like personifications of the left-brain right-brain paradigm.
CeltycSparrow and I actually agree with Rob on this one. I liked this movie too. I think Jurassic World is the only worthy successor to Jurassic Park. And while the CGI in this one wasn't as good as in Jurassic Park, it was MUCH better than in The Lost World or Jurassic Park III. The dinosaurs in this one commanded my respect and in some instances they looked real to me.
CeltycSparrow they didn't look real but they looked cool, so that's it. I don't get the boner people seem to have for super realistic CGI effects. Deep down everyone knows it's fake. It's cool to see super realistic effects once in a while, but in 20 years we'll look to today's good GCI and average CGI all the same, as the technology will have improved. Just the horrible CGI and the awesome CGI (wich can be counted in your fingers) will stand out. I take a good movie with so-so CGI over a shit movie with mind blowing CGI anytime.
42Caio (Caio Esteves) I agree with you. I will say this...these guys pointed out there wasn't any moment as intense as the T-Rex attack in the first film...I think the ending to this movie came very close to that intensity if it didn't match it completely. As soon as Claire lights the flare and the door opens I was like "YES. THIS is what I came for."
MrRobertSama I remember seeing you on the Predator Dark Ages comments...now I want to ask and I honestly DO mean this in a nice way....why don't you make a Fan JP movie?
Zach Hambelton and I agree, but in my opinion the romantic stare between T-Rex and raptor at the end is no less ridiculous at all. And there are a lot of other silly or stereotypical scenes in the movie.
De Morte Tape I know this doesn't really apply to you but I watched this at a midnight premiere and I actually stayed up. First midnight premiere that I stayed up. But the movie was awesome.
SPOILER: NC, did you not pay attention? Henry Wu KNEW all the things it could do... He didn't say what it could do because he was in cahoots with the head of security. They wanted to shut down the park so they could use the dinosaurs for military purposes.
Valen Warden That's mostly true, though he does mention that he didn't know it could hide its heat signature, and its somewhat dubious that he would how well it could "talk" to the raptors. But he definitely knew it was more dangerous than he was letting them know.
I loved the movie. I thought the CGI looked fine and I liked the characters, especially Chris Pratt's character. The climax was the best part of the movie.
Greg Towarnicki I think most people look at it like this: if you can tell it's CGI, it's bad CGI. I found Pratt to be the only character that didn't bored be to tears, but I don't really mind since this isn't a character driven movie.
I felt the CGI was always on screen and in your face that I didn't have time to appreciate it and let the world and the effects sink in. But that's just my opinion.
I don't get Doug's complaint about there not being enough gore. It's a PG-13 movie, of course they didn't show a lot of gore. If they had they would have gotten an R rating. In fact none of the other Jurassic Park movies have had much in the way of gore to begin with.
Greg Towarnicki I enjoyed this movie. There are a lot of good things about it. The character's were not one of them. In fact they were probably the worst part of this movie.
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Is it just me, or does Doug come into these movies with ridiculous preconceptions about what the movie will be, and then gets personally offended when it doesn't match his preconceived notions? I'm as guilty of this as the next guy, but he seems to take it to a strangely high level for a guy who reviews movies for a living.
Pendragon absolutely. He wants "his jurassic park" and convinces himself that "his jurassic park" is the one that everyone wants. And its not just this franchise. He is definitely the whinier of the Walker Brothers.
Gojiraking1 The weird thing is that he's not dumb. His editorials tend to be smart and insightful and show a good grasp of how to review films. I guess we can't be objective all the time
Pendragon No, the expectation of a Jurassic Park film set in an open park full of people was given to him by the movie itself. It failed to deliver on that by shifting into a movie about a few people vs dinosaurs out in the jungle, just like he'd already seen three times before.
Pendragon You're 100% correct. Especially since all of Doug's "ideas" in this review for how the movie should be would've been things I have no doubt he'd HATE if they actually went through with it. Essentially, Doug wanted a movie without characters or any kind of emotional core whatsoever. "Here's an idea, why waste any time? Why instead of having a group of characters waiting to be eaten, JUST EAT THEM?!" Cause that's not a fucking movie!!
I really don't get most of what Doug is ranting about - why would you make a Jurassic Park movie with a R rating? It's a family movie franchise with some nightmare fuel for children. Also his insistance on just because a film is a 'B-Movie' every single aspect of that movie has to be of 'B-quality' seems unnecessarily rigid thinking. He seems to get more worked up about what the movie didn't do rather than what the movie did do or at least tried to do. I'm with Robb on this one all the way
Teridax01 I think thats the biggest issue that Doug chooses to ignore. JP is a family franchise. He does not want it to be. In this situation, Doug doesn't give a shit about if kids watch it or not.
Gojiraking1 +Teridax01 Probably he has A.D.D. or something, just saying *shrugs* xD He even mentions that during the 90s generation of cartoons, kids today SHOULD DESERVE THAT. He should follow his own advice more >_
Remember, kids... if Doug doesn't like something, then it's not okay for anyone else to like it. And if you do, then you're stupid. ....That really is how he comes across, sometimes.
NickonAquaMagna Yet he said at the end of the video he understands if you like it, your just a fanboy actually try and watch the video before you talk. This is the problem with fanboys
NickonAquaMagna Your comment makes out like you didn't and if you did i'm sorry but you come off as an idiot. Doug said in his own words he understands if you like it so your comment is invalid.
And heck, at the END of this video he clearly says that most people will disagree with him and that it's perfectly OKAY to like this movie. Did you even finish the video first?
AustNerevar It's nice that he says that at the end of THIS video, but it's easy to forget when watching his NC videos and not think that he actually means it when he says things like "You don't know any better." Maybe it's just me. You can tell me after the fact that "it's just a joke," but at the time, hearing it in the videos, it's hard to not think it's serious.
Raptor DNA doesn't translate to it being able to communicate, it was predictable. But the twist wasn't "it's a raptor" it was "they can communicate" which makes sense considering MOST species can not communicate with other species even if they're related. It is actually kinda unsettling that it could communicate even growing up in complete isolation- if anything that just makes it stupid because of its improbability
theawesomebroso I was honestly waiting for him to die, as soon as the raptor jumped on that tree he was hiding inside I literally said "bye bye", same with the older brother, when they had that talk and him saying he would never leave him, they're more bonded, I thought the older brother was a goner.
KKEntertainmentofficialyoutubechannel And even after the raptor left, I was expecting him to sigh in relief, only for the Indominus to appear and finish him off.
Evony Wolfram It's one thing to make sure is to not be too talkative or getting sunk into your own comments, without letting the PERSON NEXT TO YOU REPLY AND SHARE HIS/HER VIEWS politely! xD
I think it's hilarious how half the shit Doug's complaining about, he would've complained EVEN MORE if they did the shit he was asking for. Like, pick a lane dude, cause we all know that if they DID have people running around during the climax or eating people you'd have complained that it was just a wanna-be Michael Bay film. Like, these are still ANIMALS we're working with here. I completely agree with Rob on the whole "you have to work within the framework of your own story" thing, because absolutely you do. These are animals, not psychotic humans. Therefore, they probably WOULDN'T be doing half the shit you said you wanted to see.
Spoilers Am I the only one that thinks the dead of the assistant was way out of tone? That way of die would work with a villain not to a neutral character.
I'm more of p*ssed that this is the second time I've seen this actress get a sh*tty death scene, seriously they got freaking Morganna from Merlin!!!!!!!! Also Morganna's death in Merlin was absoulute bullsh*t, she just stands there and Merlin stabs her!?!?!!? Seriously?!?!?! After 5 seasons of building her up to be the ultimate badass villain! Merlin's arch enemy! They could've done an awesome wizard duel!!!! BUT NO!!! MERLIN JUST STABS HER ONCE!!!! Yeah it was with Excalibur but it doesn't matter! Merlin has MAGIC! SHE HAD MAGIC!!!!! Now I've gotten off topic, I just really hate Merlin season 5 and the final episode was one of the worst!
***** You literally sound like the film shot your dog. It was meant to be a brutal scene to show how much danger everyone was in and give a feeling of sheer terror and intensity. Lighten up.
Dinosaurs wouldn't give a shit if a person was good or bad. They'd eat them regardless... because they are ANIMALS. They don't feel emotion like humans do. Do you honestly think they would really give a shit if they ate a newborn human baby, heck, even a dinosaur baby? No!!! Why? Because they don't care!!!
That. Is. Not. True. Why do people keep saying this? Jurassic World is a direct sequel to Jurassic Park, because they both a place on the same island. But the events of two and three are still canon, they just take place on a different island.
Nikadino311 Yep, that's why he acknowledges several times that most of the things he's complaining about will only bug him and that the majority of movie goers probably won't have the same problems.
Also, I'm not sure I agree with wanting all of the people to get massacred. I mean... the Pterodactyl's picking off a few people? That's fine. SuperDino leaping in with raptors and eating everyone? That's a little extreme and I don't think I would have enjoyed that.
I have to agree. I mean, I was on the edge of my seat hoping none of the kids on screen would get picked up and thank goodness, they didn't show that. I don't like watching kids or babies in movies get eaten or killed.
***** yeah, i agree. Heck, even the seen with the British chick and the giant underwater dinosaur i forget the name of made me cringe. Like +Fanofpikachu said, it would be unbearable to see children and infants eaten, mutilated, or otherwise slain.
***** I've never understood that. I mean, I respect it, but I just don't feel that way. I feel like one should be bothered at the loss of virtual human life, period, or not at all. I don't understand the arbitrary line of age. The same goes for animals. I know people who are fine with people on screen getting cut up, murdered, raped or dismembered... but heaven forbid a CGI dog gets hit by something...
JazGalaxy It's probably due to the cuteness factor of an animal or something. I get where you're coming from though. It's bad enough watching people get mauled on-screen by monsters/creatures, but for me, it gets especially hard when children are involved.
I love that Rob was able to take off the nostalgia goggles for JP, a lot of other people I've heard said "this is a piece of shit compared to the 'perfect' original!"
I actually don't think that the CGI sucked. I'm all for practical effects (something that people in Sweden don't fully appreciate), but in this case I thought it worked. The actors alongside the CGI dinosaurs kinda looked real.
Universe I know they looked nothing like the real dinosaurs out there. Come on. The cgi looks amazing. Trolls instantly crap on the cgi just for attention.
Universe dinosaurs are extinct.if someone did a cgi cat you can tell its cgi i because you know what a cat looks like.There is no movie with better looking dinosaurs
***** I'm not talking about whether the dinosaurs were depicted in a scientifically realistic way. By "real world" I simply mean that something looks real. The CGI in this movie does not look real in the slightest - it looks like CGI from start to finish. Creating whole environments using CG is just stupid. I just can't get into these endless green screen effects.
Was I the only one that thought the CGI was just fine? I mean the Avengers 2 came out witch alot of scenes that were extremely greenscreenish, like that scene with Scarlatte Witch stopping the train. That shot was CGI done terribly. Here, I thought the CGI was just fine. The dinosaurs might not have been implemented absolutely perfectly, but they're animations were smooth and realistic, the lighting was realistic, and you would believe that the dinosaurs were there if you weren't trying to compare it to a movie with tons of animatronic shots. Not a single point in the movie did they get that low. And yet the responses to both movies? Avengers 2 "The CGI wasn't the best at times..." Jurrasic World " Oh my god the CGI was so horrid it made my testicles shrink to the size of an atom 0/10"
Bumi Satria Pandawa some of the cgi was a bit bad but really at this point I've stopped caring about the cgi in movies unless it's reeeeeally bad or reeeeeeally good, the indominus rex looked great and sometimes realistic, the cgi complaints from me witht his movie is really more of that cgi shark, because i freaking hate cgi sharks, they've never looked good, just use a freaking model and insert it into the shot! but really that and the raptors are the only cgi complaints from me, the raptors do look bad, and it makes no sense why they couldn't use suits and puppets for some shots, like the part with the muzzles on them, why the hell would you cgi that?!?!?! just use a f*cking puppet! but really it's just the shark and the raptors.
Bumi Satria Pandawa Which is why it will be fine for most. A lot of old fans will not enjoy it as much though as Avengers fans would not if it was made a long time ago rather than recently. Jurassic World is a sequel to a movie that had very little cgi and shocked the world so it is not crazy to think he might dislike the use of CGI here.
Jurassic World was a fun ride, it was worthy to be in the Jurassic Park franchise. Some ideas that could've been better? 1. Coke 2 was bred to be a veggie eater that just looks like a carnivore/T-rex to attract tourists -It was guarded with much less care than the meat eaters. 2. Jurassic World is under constant private hired militia/mercenary merged with US military to make sure if any dinosaurs escaped, it's their job to rescue the tourists -explains Chris Pratt's character and the other military guy's involvement. 3. Coke 2 escaped during a transfer to its exhibition location because of its tracker glitches, due to bad weather. 4.Trackers contains shockers, stormy weather is ruining the shocking function, which made it hard to stun all dinosaurs. 5.All remaining survivors were delivered to Coke 2's (empty) exhibition center, where there's a giant moat that would protect them from dinosaurs, except from the pteradons. 6.Coke 2 utilized the camouflage ability a few more times while hunting Attack on Titan armored Titan style. 7.Coke 2 is a veggie eater but is hunting purely for sport -it's ripping tourists apart without care for food 8.When the military entered, it was a dinosaur battle royale of both humans against dinosaurs and dinosaurs against dinosaurs. 9.Finally, the military contained all the dinosaurs, except for Coke 2 -because they were trained to contain all species except for the hybrid. Which was yet to be studied but the boardroom is pushing them to put it out on display. 10.Coke 2 never had any raptor genes - but due to genetic splicing of different DNA and random central dogma bullcrap, the DNA mixed between different species made a convergent DNA equivalent of raptor intelligence and was able to communicate with them.
For once I agree with Rob. I think Doug analyzes this movie way too much for a movie that is suppose to be lighthearted and fun. Who cares if Chris Pratt and the Clare character don't share much screen time, or that he can communicate with raptors, or other issues, YOU SUSPEND YOUR DISBELIEF. Unlike the previous they actually bothered giving us more than one dimensional characters. Also, while the Petrarex hybrid did look artificial at times, the scene of them in the part was really heart wrenching considering how many innocent people in the part were attacked, which was to me the highlight of the movie, more than the T-Rex fight. This movie had a lot of passion behind it, and I am not usually a technical kind of guy, but I admire the cinematography, the effects and how well they managed to deliver a sense of fear and dread. Heck, at least Chris Pratt was more memorable than Tom Hardy as Mad Max.
I thought the CGI was fine. Granted this was the first JP movie I saw in theaters (didn't get the opportunities back in the day), so maybe I was already expecting fun, I thought the dinosaurs looked wonderful. Maybe not scientifically accurate in today's science, but I still had fun. And that's what I look for in a movie. I just thought a lot of the character development was just dumb.
It wasn't perfect, but I could feel the presence of the dinosaurs in the theater, and coming from a director I've never heard of, I think it was a great first step.
Travis Linton Totally agree with you! This was my first JP movie I saw in theaters too and the CGI was ok, the problem, as many have pointed out is the fact that they overused it A LOT. I just spotted two freaking animatronics. Everything else was CGI and I hated that. Even JP III used more animatronics! Those are the things I missed the most on this movie: Stan Winston and John Williams
Travis Linton I completely agree. I don't understand how Rob was saying the kid's story was better than anything in the first. Seriously? All we got was horny boy #12304 and "Wow cool!" kid. And a random scene of crying. That was just so bad.
The I-Rex looked more like a bastardized albino T-Rex (with slightly longer arms) than a "giant raptor" as Doug suggests. I actually didn't pick up on the raptor connection until they addressed it in the film.
Yeah. I get his criticisms regarding the film not taking full advantage of the park setting all throughout, and how the CGI is overused in comparison to the original film, but Jesus, you'd think someone who watched the OG film 11 times in the theaters would know what a THEROPOD is and not just call the Indominus a 'big raptor'.
Doug, I really like ya, I take consideration on what you say but I have to side with Rob with this one. At least he doesn't make a rant about SFX. Keep in mind that just like graphics in a video game, special effects doesn't make a movie.
Zalmai Azimi True, but the lesson still applies. You don't need something pretty to be good, just as long you got good writing and characters. Best example, James Cameron Avatar and The Order: 1886, they try so hard to be visually presentable that the story kinda suffers.
Gat720Dua Yeah, you notice in reviews that with some of the worst and/or most boring movies, one of the only few upsides they tend to have is...beautiful scenery or something.
Zalmai Azimi Although, in the case of "The Order: 1886", it tries to be both a movie and a video game and fails horribly in both regards. Other games try to give a "cinematic experience" but still have engaging gameplay. For instance, the new Lara Croft game and the Uncharted series tried to make cinematic experiences but at least the game play was interesting.
Keaton Smith your almost right. its the only dinosaur that is a hybrid of other dinosaurs. everything they made is a hybrid because they use dna from other animals to fill in the gaps of the dna
Keaton Smith I suspect doesn't Doug knows that much about dinosaurs beyond the raptors and "motherfucking T. rex." He keeps saying the I. rex looks like an raptor, when it looks like an oversized Allosaurus, which looks like a lot like the I. rex, only smaller: res.cloudinary.com/dinopics/image/upload/v1431248954/Allosaurus_allosaurus_papo_8.jpg
Watching Rob's face during Doug's rant definitely summed up my reactions. Absolutely agreed with Rob. One main thing, though: No one trusted Vincent D'Onofrio's character, they only went along with the things he did was because he threw his authority around in the control room and Chris Pratt didn't want the Raptor plan to end badly. The only thing I agree with Doug about is the look of Indominus Rex. The sickly-white skin and the camo was fine, but it's mouth opened so far open that the character just looked silly. It would have looked cooler to have looked less like a standard bipedal-carnivore, but I think they wanted to not allow an alien-looking creature.
So basically Doug wanted the movie to open up with a crowd of random people. Then have dinosaurs attack them with no explanation or characters introduced and have that go on for 90 minutes.
Jurassic world is by far my favorite movie of the franchise and I like it even more than the original. The only problem I had with the movie was teenager because I didnt like how he acted in the movie and that they put a divorce story that had no purpose in the movie. Other than that, I was entertained, it was funny, the action is better than the other movies and I prefer it than the original
I haven't seen Jurassic World yet, but wouldn't the whole "R-rating" thing that Doug pondered about kind of betray the family-friendly nature that this whole movie franchise is inherently built upon?
I mean I don't want him to fully compromise his feelings for the sake of the "purpose" of the movie; like if he just felt the action was mostly lame in this film then that sounds like a fine enough point to make, right? But yeah, sometimes his critiquing seems needlessly unrealistic to what the film is trying to go for, and "more disturbing gore" isn't what I'd say a *Jurassic Park* film is necessarily about.
Sir Jamesman! in my opinion based on watching this review, Doug wanted this movie to be an over the top generic Scifi channel horror flick. Because it did go dumb b-movie, but still maintaining the style and themes of the original, Doug could not be satisfied and probably never will be.
Sir Jamesman! Yeah, I mean, our inner 14-year-old wants a super bloody R rated Jurassic Park. But come on. That's never going to happen and Doug should know that. The studio wants maximum box office revenue, and the toy companies want to sell their toys, so that means PG-13.
I don't get where this controversy about Jurassic World ignoring The Lost World and JP3 comes from. The official spin-off website for the film makes reference to Hoskins' leadership of a "clean-up" operation in 2001, which involved shooting down the Pteranodon that were seen flying to the mainland at the end of JP3. This confirms that JP3 is still considered canon, which means in turn that The Lost World is also canon, as it was directly referenced in JP3. Indominus really didn't look like just a giant raptor either. It lacked killing the toe claws, the head was a different shape, raptors didn't have scutes, quills and horns, and not to mention, it had a heavier build and didn't sound like a raptor at all.
The way I see the whole divorce subplot thing: Hey kids, are your parents getting a divorce? That sucks. But hey, at least you're not about to be eaten by dinosaurs!
Spaceblazer Did they really? I thought they were just kids coming to the park because their grandpa was making this dinosaur park and they were getting a preview.
New things - Bigass sea monster showcase - DINOSAUR FUCKING PETTING ZOO - Dinosaur Tour where you can flat out run with a herd or canoe in their river - Showing a T Rex eating a goat as an ATTRACTION (teased but still there) - and most of all, RAPTOR SQUAD, not just a raptor squad, but he fucking RAISED those raptors, those raptors had FEELINGS and showed EMOTIONS... more than humans! When a raptor is pissed and wants to eat someone, you see it, when it's actually respecting their alpha, you SEE THAT it's its FACE! Every other movie the raptors were the monsters, what everyone feared, but in this movie they fucking choose sides and go back and forth! Seriously this is like the 3rd review I saw and nobody addressed this are you KIDDING ME!?
Agree with Rob - Jurassic World was super corny and it was winking at the audience the entire way through and going: "Hey guys, this is dumb isn't it? But it sure is fun, huh?" And it IS.
So, basically Doug wanted a SyFy original movie with a 100x bigger budget and effects that are actually convincing. All of his other arguments just seem to be him grasping at straws trying to justify why he doesn't like most of this movie.
I completely agree with Doug's Brother in this, Jurassic World was a really fun movie (in no way perfect, but still better than the other sequels). And Doug just goes so over the top with his ranting, I find him hard to watch at times.
Androzani Critic Doug is normally a stickler for character development, he's complaining because the film is clearly trying to be a dumb monster movie. For him, it failed to be that partially because it half-assedly tried to have genuine character moments.It didn't take itself seriously enough to be sincerely moving, and it took itself too seriously for him to just laugh it off and have fun.
Way to misrepresent his argument. He's saying that if you're going to do character development, then ACTUALLY DO IT. The character "development" in this movie ultimately led nowhere and left us confused. This movie never picked a lane, either it should be a dumb monster movie or a serious movie with character development. It tried to do both and thus failed at both.
Way to misrepresent his argument. He's saying that if you're going to do character development, then ACTUALLY DO IT. The character "development" in this movie ultimately led nowhere and left us confused. This movie never picked a lane, either it should be a dumb monster movie or a serious movie with character development. It tried to do both and thus failed at both.
I love Rob's facial expressions while Doug is ranting. I wish he was holding up pictures of a screw and a ball, bats flying out of a belfry, corn on the cob, etc
What the fuck is Doug talking about? The CG in this movie was some of the best I have ever seen! The skin textures, the movement of the flesh, lighting, the weight when they move...Everything was spot on! The reason why you dont see much animatronics anymore is because its just not needed anymore!
I love Doug in this and the spoiler corner part. Usually I can connect more to Rob when he is very calm, straight and focused. He is more into the facts. But Jurassic Park is VERY special to Doug and I love that he is so passionate about it. This time he is absolutely understandable to me.
Am I the only one who thinks the CGI was pretty good? It was very convincing in many parts, like with the Raptors in the muzzles, and though I could always tell it was CG, there are very little, if any, instances where movies have had 100% convincing CGI. I think this is a fine example of how the Walkers, as well as much of the movie going world, has just become desensitized to CGI. "Awful,""terrible," and "butt-ugly" are waaay too heavy handed words to describe this CG and just speaks to how used to CG we've gotten. Also, I have no idea what Dough was getting on about making the Andomidus a Frankenstein's hodge podge mess. That would have just been stupid and unfrightening. What were the scariest and most iconic dinosaurs of the first movie? The T-Rex and the Raptor, so making a giant combo of the two was the most logical and convincing choice.
To be honest Doug I think your way, WAY over exaggerating on the special effects. I saw this movie and yeah the effects aren't as great as the first one, but their pretty damn decent. The way your making it sound is like their the kind of effects the Sci-Fi Channel or the Asylum do. Hell the dinosaurs look more real in this film then the one's in Transformers: Age of Extinction.
God i would love a cynical, r rated and goty dinosaur movie with good animatronics, actually showing off the damage those teeth and claws can do to humans
Suwat Saksri I have to disagree, I think it would ruin the franchise for those people who like it more for other aspects than the attacks. However, I don't mean to offend, just to dialogue.
The Meg is what I think Doug wants. I enjoyed the hell out of that film. It knew it was dumb and had fun with it. Jurassic World did try to act like it was important which bothered me because the script wasn’t good
I can see where Doug is coming from and I totally understand his point of view, but I am totally gonna side with Rob on this one. I had a blast watching this movie, I enjoyed Chris Pratt and the action scenes and the brothers and the aunt, it's not perfect at all it's got some legit dumb moments and the cgi could use alot of work, but I can totally look past it cause it was just so much fun and that's all I expected coming in to the movie. Definately better than Lost World and JP3, it's a highly decent sequel to a great classic :)
_Lost World_ and _Jurrassic Park III_ still happened. I don't get why people keep saying this film ignores them! 1) They were on a different island, so it doesn't really affect the new film to start. 2) Ian Malcolm's book is a talking point and both 2 and 3. And guess where it showed up? On someone's desk in _Jurrassic World_. Look for it. It's there. The San Diego incident is the only potential "pick." And even then, time wears things away. We as a culture, wouldn't care about it after 20+ years.
Rhett Gedies As I recall, the director/producers have pretty much said JP 2 and 3 were de-canonized with this movie. They could have canonized aspects, like Ian's book, but they've pretty much confirmed the other movies "didn't happen."
Brian Straight I'd have to have a direct quote to be agree.....and even then, I'd be ticked (as both the others don't really even factor in to influence anything 4 and on).
darkfur3 Reading into it more, it seems that that was mis-reported. The make of this movie said the sequels were being "Set Aside" as they took place on another island, this movie takes place on the park island. But, it seems the sequels "did happen" even if they're not too directly referred to. Personaly, I think they should have de-canoned them so as to not deal with the implications of them like pterodactyls/dons getting off the island.
Brian Straight If you read a news post on Masrani's website it states that Vic Hoskins captured the pteranodons that escaped at the end of the third movie so thats not an issue.
Does doug's extreme(yes, extreme) bias against cgi annoy anyone else? Yes, the cgi in this movie doesnt hold a candle to the animatronics but it still looks extremely good. I could just imagine every cgi artist in the movie industry wanting to punch him in the face cause this man is never satisfied.
khknight The thing is, the more you watch CGI, the more you except the falseness of it all. When you're Like Doug or even Rob, and grew-up seeing movies with amazing practical effects ,CGI cannot compare to them. In the 90's, and at that the early 90's, they created masterful levels of CGI. CGI that looked so good, you could hardly tell that it was fake. We have advanced in our CGI since then, for better and for worse. Better because talented animators can make insanely real looking images, and allow audiences to feel connected to the film they are watching. On the other hand, that also means it allows " not so good" animators to work on projects; given that they want the movie to come out faster.. I'm sure the artist's that worked on this movie worked hard to complete it, but I doubt they have the raw talent that those Animator's of the original JP had. Today's audiences,( especially those from the age group from toddler to young adult) tend to not care about the realistic quality of CGI anymore. I for one, was only impressed once in JW. In JP, I sit in awe at the amazing quality of those realistic dinosaurs ,even today. And i'd say given the tools and money at their disposal, the JW team could've made a proper squeal/reboot.
JurassicCollectables and wait did your little brother try to say the story was more powerful than the first Jurassic Park at 19:00? Well I think he just joined the ranks of the only person on earth who has problems with the first movie.
JurassicCollectables At 39:00 it's not laziness, more lack of planning. Essentially you shoot with a temporary and wooly script that isn't finished. CG is used to fill the gaps later. You need to let the practical guys know in advance what you need for each shot. Spielberg had it all planned meticulously.
***** Being scientifically possible isn't the prime factor that makes a movie smart. It's the way how it tackles and approaches different deeper themes and theories. And the first Jurassic Park did great in that. End of story
Did they mention it was part raptor before the movie somewhere? Becuase I knew it was with the certainty of hearing it in a trailer that it was. I would pitch the movie to my family saying "it's about a t-rex mixed with a raptor and it's loose in the park" I was kinda confused when they tried to keep it secret so either it was mentioned or I am a prophet
Yeah I think I somehow soaked the rumor into my internet reading. Shame becuase I spoiled that surprise to my family mistakenly thinking it was in a trailer
I liked this movie when I saw it in the theater. As I thought about it later, I realized that the plot, characters (aside from the kids), and particularly the gender politics were kind of terrible. The kiss really bothered me too. It just confused the crap out of me. There were things I liked about it. The dinosaur bits carried me through. It's big and dumb and fun, so while I agree with Doug, I also agree with Rob? Also, the thing that pisses everyone off I never understood. "Oh my gosh, she's running around wearing heels! Ugh! So unrealistic!" I'm sorry, what? So it's better for her to run around IN THE JUNGLE barefoot? GIVE ME A BREAK!
I literally shouted "I'M A MOTHERFUCKING T. REX!!!" the moment the credits were done, then said it again in personal letters of recommendation to my friends and family. Thank you, Doug, for giving me the language to articulate the emotions I felt at that moment in the film.
The original Jurassic park"s characters may not have been the deepest characters ever written but they were still way more interesting than the ones in Jurassic world.
Team Rob for the Win - I loved this movie! And for Christ's sake, you want bad CGI dinosaurs watch 'Land of the Lost' that was awful, made Jurassic Park III look like the first to JP films!!
Y'all notice how Doug keeps saying "monsters?" That's the one thing I really don't like about Jurassic Park. Any of them. I love the movies, but they all do this one thing that I absolutely hate: they do just that, paint the carnivorous dinosaurs as "monsters". Rather then behaving like animals (WHICH DINOSAURS FUCKING WERE) that are looking to survive, all the dinosaurs in the Jurassic Park series act like fucking psychopaths, running around axing people off like the villain in a slasher movie. That's the one thing I truly hate Spielberg for: he painted the public's perception of dinosaurs as hyper-dangerous super-murderers rather then wild animals. You know what a real Velociraptor would probably do if it ran into a human being, just by chance? It would probably think "Whoah, what the fuck is that!? I don't know what that is, which freaks me the fuck out, so I'm gonna get the fuck out of here!" and it would then bolt. Do you know what a Velociraptor raised in Jurassic Park would do if it's pen was opened? "Huh, my pen is open. Of course, I've lived in this pen all my life, and have come to associate it with security and home, and I'm routinely brought food and kept safe as long as I remain here, so I think I'll just stay here and keep my eye on that opening in case anything scary comes for me. Oh, look, a human, good, they'll keep me safe, or maybe bring me some food, that would be nice." Spielberg's raptors? "Oh, look, my pen is open, BETTER FUCKING KILL EVERYONE LOL." And I'm not stupid, I know animals can be dangerous. And dinosaurs were probably even more dangerous, because they were in many cases bigger and stronger then modern animals. But still, there is a line. No wild animal is ever going to deliberately place itself in anything that might be danger for the sole purpose of committing murder. And if they were raised in a safe hatchery, and later a safe enclosure, in both of which they were taken care of by humans, they would not flip their shit and start killing people at the earliest opportunity.
bigfatcarp93 Actually if a real raptor saw you it would contact it's pack to hunt you down and eat you, these were not the timid and flighty animals of today. In the first Jurassic Park they have a ten minute conversation about the morals and ethics of bringing back extinct creatures into the modern era, and both Grant and Ellie as well as Malcolm mention how these are basically animals who have no idea what era their in and will defend themselves and act like animals. Even in this movie Chris Pratt says these creatures don't know they were made in test tubes and have animals instincts. The Sick triceratops and the first reveal of the Brachiosaur are tantamount to Spielberg's attempt to make these more than monsters, the problem is that the carnivores were built to be alpha predators and are, the reason their so scary is because they are following instinct and nature. the raptors are expert hunters capable of problem solving and working together as a pack therefore they act like such, the T-Rex was a juggernaut alpha predator and is shown as such. the reason their called monsters is because they are seen as such since they are hybrids created in labs, however, one thing i felt was the point of this movie was too show how the I-Rex was not a regular animal but was a purposely created genetic Frankenstein creation of man whereas most of the other species had minor hybridization. So having the T-rex, Raptor and Mollasaur take her down in the end was their way of showing nature taking down the technology created monster.
Mckenzie .Latham Erm, no. No on several counts. First of all, you are not incorrect that that is what Spielberg was _trying_ to do, portray them as more then just monsters. But if look at almost *every single thing* dinosaurs have appeared in since, you can see that he clearly failed. All people have done since is portray them as killer monsters. Look at almost every single dinosaur movie, TV show and video game since the release of Jurassic Park to see this pattern. Not every one, but almost every one. Secondly, where exactly are you getting this information that dinosaurs were apparently so much more aggressive then modern animals? Because that's almost certainly bullshit. Animals don't waste energy on pointless aggression, and they don't blindly attack what they don't understand. An animal's point is _survival_, and doing either of those things is contrary to that.
bigfatcarp93 Ironically, Dr. Grant said a million times in the first movie that they're "animals, not monsters". The Raptors and the Spinosaurus certainly disagree with him there. That said, I wouldn't say ALL the creatures are depicted as psychopaths. The T. rex stops chasing the heroes when she realizes it's no longer worth it, the Dilophosaurus was a baby who was mostly just acting out of curiosity, the Pteranodons were parents looking to feed and protect their babies, etc. Additionally, the T. rex in the first film only ate one human (because she was hungry) and said human was the slimy lawyer. Oh, and the T. rex and Stegosaurus in the second film mostly went after the humans for threatening/going near their babies and the first Compy attack happened because a little girl made the profoundly stupid decision to give one of them food. This extends to Jurassic World in fact. The pterosaurs only attacked out of redirected aggression from being forced out of their habitat by the I-Rex (like a swarm of hornets forced out of their hive), the Mosasaurus only ate Zara because she saw the Pteranodon and wanted to eat it instead and even the raptors act a bit more animal-like than their previous portrayals.
bigfatcarp93 True. And to be fair, I think the carnivorous dinos would probably be depicted as monsters even if there was conclusive proof that they were the most docile creatures ever when not hunting. It's a carnivore thing.
I think Doug's a little too high on his horse; I think it's actually a giraffe at this point. I'm not saying the movie's perfect--fuck no. I agree the CG wasn't great, but it did the job, the world was beautifully realized from a design perspective, they did a good job of weaving the stories together, the characters... well the one villain guy was idiotic but the rest I could see existing. Hell, my only real complaint is that I personally found the older brother to be utterly irredeemable after the divorce talk. But I thoroughly enjoyed the movie and found the way they animated the dinosaurs to give them subtle emotions absolutely brilliant. Not saying it's perfect, but Doug's becoming way too jaded here.
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I loved how Rob was just mocking Doug during his rant.
I have to agree with Rob I'm afraid Doug. I think one of the reasons why Jurassic World will NEVER live up to the first film is because well, we all grew up seeing it. We all had a feeling of joy and excitement the first time watching the film and we want to have a feeling like that again. But. It can only happen once. You can never get that feeling back. Now Jurassic World isn't a perfect movie but I'd say its a great movie overall when you look at it as just a film. Its a sequel yes. But if you go in thinking this will be as ground breaking as the first film you will be disappointed. I give the creators a lot of credit because the one thing I thought they did really well was take the Dinosaurs and make them into Animals again.Treat them with the respect you would an actual living being. The second and third films just make the Dino's out to be just action set pieces and nothing more which is what ultimately betrays the thought of the first movie. Jurassic World in my eyes is the true successor to the first film because for the most part it lives up to not only John Hammond's vision but also Spielberg's vision too. Treating the Animals like real living creatures instead of movie monsters. Jurassic World is a great film. Its not as good as the first but the makers didn't want it to be. They just wanted to tell a story and try and give people that feeling they got when they were children. They may not of succeeded on every level. But the love for the original is definitely there. Me personally I thought the CGI looked fine and well if you didn't enjoy the film or thought it was underwhelming I understand. Each to their own. I just got such an overwhelming feeling of love and enjoyment out of this film that I'd happily see it again and again. I love the Jurassic Park franchise and I am glad we have a true sequel to the first.
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I completely agree .
and doug your becoming jaded. Watch that or you might just kill your inner child.
JokerJawzDude92 Sometimes, I wake up to the sound of that annoying ring tone from the cell phone in Jurassic Park 3 and the sight of that ugly kid's face. I feel cold and clammy, and then the inanity of the plot is suddenly reminded. "Why did Dr. Grant say he would never go back on that island and does it anyway? Why are those parents so irresponsible to get all those people killed for a dumb paragliding ride?" Jurassic Park 3 was like my Vietnam. That movie sucked so hard. People rage about Batman & Robin but that movie knew it was cheesy and stupid and had fun with it; JP3 was like the youngest brother of the high school football captain who can't pass, throw, or run the ball trying to say, "look at me, everyone! I can be just as good!" Screw that movie.
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I thought JP3 had some nice ideas, like having the Spinosaurus in general and whatnot. The execution was just horrible though.
MegaSOSbrigade No , its because they didn't want to be better or worst than the first fucking movie , who cares , it's just entertaining
I know what you mean but i have mastered the art of taking my nostalgia goggles off and its a whole new world people. It's not easy to do but its worth it
I dunno. I didn't think the CG was "awful" or "butt-ugly." I mean, it wasn't spectacular, but it wasn't terrible.
***** I agree with you. Considering how big this movie is, it should have been much better.
David Imani I remember it being bad, but it didn't pull me out of the movie. Guess I didn't notice it much, because I was busy trying to suspend my disbelief over all the other issues this movie had going.
Yeah I thought it looked good
***** I thought the CGI was fine. Certainly better than JP3. But I think we're so used to seeing CGI by now that we find it a lot easier to criticize. And in the original JP, the CGI was very minimal. But now, its easier and cheaper to do it, so they get a little heavy-handed with it. That's what got on my nerves about the Star Wars prequels. It looked like a video game most of the time.
I, also, thought the CGI was pretty good. What particularly comes to mind is when we first see the tamed raptors (obviously, it’s debatable as to how best to describe them: tamed, domesticated, subservient to Owen). I was just glad they went back to the JP raptors and not the JP3 ones. As for Doug’s perceptions of some of the plot holes, the teams that went out to find Indominus, I’m not surprised they didn’t know what to expect. Since when does a company make sure all employees are aware of everything that might happen in a situation? I saw at least 4 separate areas that may or may not know what is going on between each other: the science lab, day-to-day operations, management, animal control… What is the likelyhood that the left hand is going to tell the right hand what is going on?
In all honesty, I like James and Mike’s review of the movie better. Furthermore, I consider this an intellectual popcorn flick. It’s smart enough to keep you interested and mindless enough to just sit back and enjoy.
The Sibling Rivalries where both Doug and Rob disagree with each other are much more fun and interesting to watch than the ones where they just echo each other's thoughts.
Clock this is the one exception where i HATE that. Most of the time, Doug kept on interrupting Rob, and honestly the whole i saw Doug as this kid who was throwing a tantrum because he didn't get what he wanted. I usually like these sibling rivalries where the two have opposites opinions, but Doug ruined the whole thing for me.
killer92173 what are you talking about. He makes legitimately good points and his ways of complaining about it is similar to how he plays the nostalgia critic when he gets really angry. So I don’t know why you hated it
Let me summarize this video:
Rob: I'd like to have a rational discussion about this
Doug: I WILL SCREECH AND RAMBLE ON ABOUT HOW I HATE THIS MOVIE BUT I ALSO LOVE THIS MOVIE!
Rob: ...okay, but can we talk about-
Doug: I WANT THIS TO BE A GORY BLOODFEST AND A DUMB 70s DISASTER FILM AT THE SAME TIME!
Rob; Okay, I can see that, but-
Doug: I WILL MAKE INCORRECT STATEMENTS ABOUT THE FILM AND THE DINOSAURS WHILE FLAILING MY ARMS ABOUT AND OH I HATE THIS I HATE THIS... ITS A GREAT MOVIE.
Rob:...how the hell are we related?
Kevin Allen this is VERY accurate, and your comment is seriously underrated. It's funny though because in most of their sibling rivalries, the roles are reversed.
Funny enough it's really the opposite in some other reviews
Hahahahaha! Although I like both Doug and Rob very much, I am nonetheless quite entertained by your comment, even though it's at Doug's expense. They can be kind of like personifications of the left-brain right-brain paradigm.
I'm just watching the first 10 minutes and I'm just thinking.
"Poor Rob."
Marcus Punisher I know. I really wanted him to shut the fuck up. :/
Marcus Punisher I think I'd rather listen to Daffy Duck rant about Jurassic World than Doug honestly.
electricmastro I though we are already listening to him. =D
Marcus Punisher There's no lisp.
Marcus Punisher I'm 20 minutes in and thinking "Poor Doug"
I love how Doug is on this massive rant for the first ten minutes of this video and Rob is just like"yep...yep...waiting for my turn to talk". lol
CeltycSparrow and I actually agree with Rob on this one. I liked this movie too. I think Jurassic World is the only worthy successor to Jurassic Park. And while the CGI in this one wasn't as good as in Jurassic Park, it was MUCH better than in The Lost World or Jurassic Park III. The dinosaurs in this one commanded my respect and in some instances they looked real to me.
Rob ftw
CeltycSparrow they didn't look real but they looked cool, so that's it.
I don't get the boner people seem to have for super realistic CGI effects. Deep down everyone knows it's fake. It's cool to see super realistic effects once in a while, but in 20 years we'll look to today's good GCI and average CGI all the same, as the technology will have improved. Just the horrible CGI and the awesome CGI (wich can be counted in your fingers) will stand out. I take a good movie with so-so CGI over a shit movie with mind blowing CGI anytime.
42Caio (Caio Esteves) I agree with you. I will say this...these guys pointed out there wasn't any moment as intense as the T-Rex attack in the first film...I think the ending to this movie came very close to that intensity if it didn't match it completely. As soon as Claire lights the flare and the door opens I was like "YES. THIS is what I came for."
The two kids in this movie were completely pointless, I want one movie, JUST ONE, that doesnt involve one child or more.
MrRobertSama I remember seeing you on the Predator Dark Ages comments...now I want to ask and I honestly DO mean this in a nice way....why don't you make a Fan JP movie?
Raun Carswell I dont know if you have mistaken me for someone else, but im no movie maker.
You could get friends or people to do that for you. If people have the same passion for something, it can be built.
Raun Carswell I could, but I dont know the first thing about it.
***** They can easily have that without the inclusion of a couple of pointless brats.
My favorite thing about this: while Doug goes on a raging rant, Rob is so zen.
At least this movie doesn't feature a gymnastics routine or a talking velociraptor.
Zach Hambelton Alan!
***** To be fair Rexy is over 20 years old so she's up there in age.
***** yeah, my GF told me the same in that scene... i dont mind it anyway, the redhead was hot.
Zach Hambelton and I agree, but in my opinion the romantic stare between T-Rex and raptor at the end is no less ridiculous at all. And there are a lot of other silly or stereotypical scenes in the movie.
Obliteradon maybe youre so longing for love you see it that way but all i saw was a look of understanding not love
I liked the movie. It was kinda dumb in places, but it was fun
De Morte Tape Yeah, I mean it was aware it wasn't going to live up to the first film's expectation. For what we got, it was fine.
Yeah, I went in with low expectations and was pleasantly surprised. Beats the shit out of JP 2 and 3 though
De Morte Tape I know this doesn't really apply to you but I watched this at a midnight premiere and I actually stayed up. First midnight premiere that I stayed up. But the movie was awesome.
De Morte Tape how was it dumb? keep seeing everyone say that but its a cop out. everything made sense to me.
hexsplows Well for one they REALLY shoved the new Mercedes in your face. Also Claire, Owen's love interest was annoying!!
SPOILER:
NC, did you not pay attention? Henry Wu KNEW all the things it could do... He didn't say what it could do because he was in cahoots with the head of security. They wanted to shut down the park so they could use the dinosaurs for military purposes.
Valen Warden That's mostly true, though he does mention that he didn't know it could hide its heat signature, and its somewhat dubious that he would how well it could "talk" to the raptors. But he definitely knew it was more dangerous than he was letting them know.
Carversations Yea, he had a deal with the head of security, like I said, to help make the park shut down. Technically they succeeded in their plan.
I loved the movie. I thought the CGI looked fine and I liked the characters, especially Chris Pratt's character. The climax was the best part of the movie.
Greg Towarnicki I think most people look at it like this: if you can tell it's CGI, it's bad CGI. I found Pratt to be the only character that didn't bored be to tears, but I don't really mind since this isn't a character driven movie.
I felt the CGI was always on screen and in your face that I didn't have time to appreciate it and let the world and the effects sink in. But that's just my opinion.
I don't get Doug's complaint about there not being enough gore. It's a PG-13 movie, of course they didn't show a lot of gore. If they had they would have gotten an R rating. In fact none of the other Jurassic Park movies have had much in the way of gore to begin with.
Greg Towarnicki I enjoyed this movie. There are a lot of good things about it. The character's were not one of them. In fact they were probably the worst part of this movie.
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You can tell because you know it's not real and how movies are made, but you can't tell just by looking at them.
This was a legit rivalry lol
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It's funny hearing Rob say that considering that he's usually more critical of movies overall.
I can agree. To me, Rob's more objective and Doug's more subjective.
I yell this at my brother far too often.
I'll agree that you can REALLY nitpick this film, but I'd be lying if I wasn't entertained by this film!!
Overall 6.5/10
I completely agree. There were so many things that didn't make sense but yet I was entertained.
ShinbrigTV I'd give 8/10.
9/10 that movie was amazing
ShinbrigTV Exactly! It was fun and ridiculous at the same time but it didn't sucked like Transformers or something
***** You've got a point. I just score based on how much I liked something.
Is it just me, or does Doug come into these movies with ridiculous preconceptions about what the movie will be, and then gets personally offended when it doesn't match his preconceived notions? I'm as guilty of this as the next guy, but he seems to take it to a strangely high level for a guy who reviews movies for a living.
Pendragon absolutely. He wants "his jurassic park" and convinces himself that "his jurassic park" is the one that everyone wants. And its not just this franchise. He is definitely the whinier of the Walker Brothers.
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The weird thing is that he's not dumb. His editorials tend to be smart and insightful and show a good grasp of how to review films. I guess we can't be objective all the time
Pendragon I've noticed he is more like this with modern movies with a few exceptions.
Pendragon No, the expectation of a Jurassic Park film set in an open park full of people was given to him by the movie itself. It failed to deliver on that by shifting into a movie about a few people vs dinosaurs out in the jungle, just like he'd already seen three times before.
Pendragon You're 100% correct. Especially since all of Doug's "ideas" in this review for how the movie should be would've been things I have no doubt he'd HATE if they actually went through with it. Essentially, Doug wanted a movie without characters or any kind of emotional core whatsoever. "Here's an idea, why waste any time? Why instead of having a group of characters waiting to be eaten, JUST EAT THEM?!" Cause that's not a fucking movie!!
I really don't get most of what Doug is ranting about - why would you make a Jurassic Park movie with a R rating? It's a family movie franchise with some nightmare fuel for children. Also his insistance on just because a film is a 'B-Movie' every single aspect of that movie has to be of 'B-quality' seems unnecessarily rigid thinking. He seems to get more worked up about what the movie didn't do rather than what the movie did do or at least tried to do.
I'm with Robb on this one all the way
Teridax01 I think thats the biggest issue that Doug chooses to ignore. JP is a family franchise. He does not want it to be. In this situation, Doug doesn't give a shit about if kids watch it or not.
Gojiraking1 +Teridax01 Probably he has A.D.D. or something, just saying *shrugs* xD
He even mentions that during the 90s generation of cartoons, kids today SHOULD DESERVE THAT.
He should follow his own advice more >_
Remember, kids... if Doug doesn't like something, then it's not okay for anyone else to like it. And if you do, then you're stupid.
....That really is how he comes across, sometimes.
NickonAquaMagna Yet he said at the end of the video he understands if you like it, your just a fanboy actually try and watch the video before you talk. This is the problem with fanboys
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I did watch most of the video, dude. Don't make it sound like I only sat through the first 30 seconds before giving up.
NickonAquaMagna Your comment makes out like you didn't and if you did i'm sorry but you come off as an idiot. Doug said in his own words he understands if you like it so your comment is invalid.
And heck, at the END of this video he clearly says that most people will disagree with him and that it's perfectly OKAY to like this movie. Did you even finish the video first?
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It's nice that he says that at the end of THIS video, but it's easy to forget when watching his NC videos and not think that he actually means it when he says things like "You don't know any better."
Maybe it's just me. You can tell me after the fact that "it's just a joke," but at the time, hearing it in the videos, it's hard to not think it's serious.
Raptor DNA doesn't translate to it being able to communicate, it was predictable. But the twist wasn't "it's a raptor" it was "they can communicate" which makes sense considering MOST species can not communicate with other species even if they're related. It is actually kinda unsettling that it could communicate even growing up in complete isolation- if anything that just makes it stupid because of its improbability
At least the black guy didn't die in this movie
theawesomebroso that was an M. Night Shyamalan level twist.
theawesomebroso I was honestly waiting for him to die, as soon as the raptor jumped on that tree he was hiding inside I literally said "bye bye", same with the older brother, when they had that talk and him saying he would never leave him, they're more bonded, I thought the older brother was a goner.
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And even after the raptor left, I was expecting him to sigh in relief, only for the Indominus to appear and finish him off.
theawesomebroso In a movie full of clichés that was unexpected...
HalfDemonInuyasha haha yea me to i did not think blue would eat him/ he did stop when he heard his name. but i totaly thought he would be i rex food
I'm just gonna say watching this I wanted to yell "SHUT UP DOUG!" near 50 times, because you can tell Rob has something he wanted to put in. :/
Evony Wolfram *pat pats you* >< I can relate..... (damn doug indeed... needs to settle down xD)
Seabook Farno i felt SO bad for Rob during this. it was bad xD
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It's one thing to make sure is to not be too talkative or getting sunk into your own comments, without letting the PERSON NEXT TO YOU REPLY AND SHARE HIS/HER VIEWS politely! xD
+Seabook Farno You mean opinions right?
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Unless the opinion sounds stupid and ill informed, we'll attack it whenever then yes. x3
I agree more with Rob than Doug.
I think it's hilarious how half the shit Doug's complaining about, he would've complained EVEN MORE if they did the shit he was asking for. Like, pick a lane dude, cause we all know that if they DID have people running around during the climax or eating people you'd have complained that it was just a wanna-be Michael Bay film.
Like, these are still ANIMALS we're working with here. I completely agree with Rob on the whole "you have to work within the framework of your own story" thing, because absolutely you do. These are animals, not psychotic humans. Therefore, they probably WOULDN'T be doing half the shit you said you wanted to see.
Doug's bias definitely comes through in this video. He never gets this worked up over any other franchise.
rhino3784 aren't we all biased at some point? XD
Depends on the franchise. Same with me.
rhino3784 and you'll notice a ton of his arguments are total trash and he contradicts himself quite a lot.
rhino3784 and you'll notice a ton of his arguments are total trash and he contradicts himself quite a lot.
Sheep-Face Finally someone who sees his fallacy in his arguments.
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Am I the only one that thinks the dead of the assistant was way out of tone? That way of die would work with a villain not to a neutral character.
I'm pretty sure we were supposed to feel bad for her
Trulz21 I actually cheered a little terrible character needed to go.
I'm more of p*ssed that this is the second time I've seen this actress get a sh*tty death scene, seriously they got freaking Morganna from Merlin!!!!!!!! Also Morganna's death in Merlin was absoulute bullsh*t, she just stands there and Merlin stabs her!?!?!!? Seriously?!?!?! After 5 seasons of building her up to be the ultimate badass villain! Merlin's arch enemy! They could've done an awesome wizard duel!!!! BUT NO!!! MERLIN JUST STABS HER ONCE!!!! Yeah it was with Excalibur but it doesn't matter! Merlin has MAGIC! SHE HAD MAGIC!!!!! Now I've gotten off topic, I just really hate Merlin season 5 and the final episode was one of the worst!
***** You literally sound like the film shot your dog. It was meant to be a brutal scene to show how much danger everyone was in and give a feeling of sheer terror and intensity. Lighten up.
Dinosaurs wouldn't give a shit if a person was good or bad. They'd eat them regardless... because they are ANIMALS. They don't feel emotion like humans do. Do you honestly think they would really give a shit if they ate a newborn human baby, heck, even a dinosaur baby? No!!! Why? Because they don't care!!!
Hey guys, rob is right they said Jurassic park 2 and 3 are no longer canon
GameStation3 actully the makers said it is a deric sequl of the first movie
GameStation3 nope the director was asked yesterday on twitter.
GameStation3 ok
GameStation3 already agreed and i admit i missed that
That. Is. Not. True. Why do people keep saying this? Jurassic World is a direct sequel to Jurassic Park, because they both a place on the same island. But the events of two and three are still canon, they just take place on a different island.
Is it just me or does Doug come into these movies thinking there are going to be made just for him
Nikadino311 Yep, that's why he acknowledges several times that most of the things he's complaining about will only bug him and that the majority of movie goers probably won't have the same problems.
Also, I'm not sure I agree with wanting all of the people to get massacred. I mean... the Pterodactyl's picking off a few people? That's fine. SuperDino leaping in with raptors and eating everyone? That's a little extreme and I don't think I would have enjoyed that.
I have to agree. I mean, I was on the edge of my seat hoping none of the kids on screen would get picked up and thank goodness, they didn't show that. I don't like watching kids or babies in movies get eaten or killed.
***** yeah, i agree. Heck, even the seen with the British chick and the giant underwater dinosaur i forget the name of made me cringe. Like +Fanofpikachu said, it would be unbearable to see children and infants eaten, mutilated, or otherwise slain.
***** I've never understood that. I mean, I respect it, but I just don't feel that way. I feel like one should be bothered at the loss of virtual human life, period, or not at all. I don't understand the arbitrary line of age. The same goes for animals. I know people who are fine with people on screen getting cut up, murdered, raped or dismembered... but heaven forbid a CGI dog gets hit by something...
JazGalaxy It's probably due to the cuteness factor of an animal or something. I get where you're coming from though. It's bad enough watching people get mauled on-screen by monsters/creatures, but for me, it gets especially hard when children are involved.
Pterodactyls do not exist.
I love that Rob was able to take off the nostalgia goggles for JP, a lot of other people I've heard said "this is a piece of shit compared to the 'perfect' original!"
If Jurassic World was the first movie, no one would remember it or care. It's a piece of shit all on its own.
The dinosaurs looked fucking real to me. I thought it looked awesome. You're wrong Doug, I'm sorry to say. I still respect you though!
Joel Kinnaman Looked like another CGI cartoon to me. Have people forgotten what the real world looks like?
I actually don't think that the CGI sucked. I'm all for practical effects (something that people in Sweden don't fully appreciate), but in this case I thought it worked. The actors alongside the CGI dinosaurs kinda looked real.
Universe I know they looked nothing like the real dinosaurs out there. Come on. The cgi looks amazing. Trolls instantly crap on the cgi just for attention.
Universe dinosaurs are extinct.if someone did a cgi cat you can tell its cgi i because you know what a cat looks like.There is no movie with better looking dinosaurs
***** I'm not talking about whether the dinosaurs were depicted in a scientifically realistic way. By "real world" I simply mean that something looks real. The CGI in this movie does not look real in the slightest - it looks like CGI from start to finish. Creating whole environments using CG is just stupid. I just can't get into these endless green screen effects.
I thought the Dinosaurs looked great. Then again I'm not one of those people that are hung up on animatronics.
Bear in mind that, back when Jurassic Park first came out, CGI wasn't used as much as it was now.
Amy Lady and still shouldn't in most cases today
Was I the only one that thought the CGI was just fine?
I mean the Avengers 2 came out witch alot of scenes that were extremely greenscreenish, like that scene with Scarlatte Witch stopping the train. That shot was CGI done terribly.
Here, I thought the CGI was just fine. The dinosaurs might not have been implemented absolutely perfectly, but they're animations were smooth and realistic, the lighting was realistic, and you would believe that the dinosaurs were there if you weren't trying to compare it to a movie with tons of animatronic shots. Not a single point in the movie did they get that low.
And yet the responses to both movies?
Avengers 2 "The CGI wasn't the best at times..."
Jurrasic World " Oh my god the CGI was so horrid it made my testicles shrink to the size of an atom 0/10"
Bumi Satria Pandawa No, you're not the only one. I thought the CGI looked fine. The Indominus Rex was awesome!
***** Dude that train scene was just TOO fake to not mention. I still loved the movie, but that scene was just.... so much cringe.
Bumi Satria Pandawa some of the cgi was a bit bad but really at this point I've stopped caring about the cgi in movies unless it's reeeeeally bad or reeeeeeally good, the indominus rex looked great and sometimes realistic, the cgi complaints from me witht his movie is really more of that cgi shark, because i freaking hate cgi sharks, they've never looked good, just use a freaking model and insert it into the shot! but really that and the raptors are the only cgi complaints from me, the raptors do look bad, and it makes no sense why they couldn't use suits and puppets for some shots, like the part with the muzzles on them, why the hell would you cgi that?!?!?! just use a f*cking puppet! but really it's just the shark and the raptors.
Bumi Satria Pandawa Which is why it will be fine for most. A lot of old fans will not enjoy it as much though as Avengers fans would not if it was made a long time ago rather than recently. Jurassic World is a sequel to a movie that had very little cgi and shocked the world so it is not crazy to think he might dislike the use of CGI here.
Bumi Satria Pandawa I think most people look at it like this: if you can tell it's CGI, it's bad CGI.
Jurassic World was a fun ride, it was worthy to be in the Jurassic Park franchise.
Some ideas that could've been better?
1. Coke 2 was bred to be a veggie eater that just looks like a carnivore/T-rex to attract tourists
-It was guarded with much less care than the meat eaters.
2. Jurassic World is under constant private hired militia/mercenary merged with US military to make sure if any dinosaurs escaped, it's their job to rescue the tourists
-explains Chris Pratt's character and the other military guy's involvement.
3. Coke 2 escaped during a transfer to its exhibition location because of its tracker glitches, due to bad weather.
4.Trackers contains shockers, stormy weather is ruining the shocking function, which made it hard to stun all dinosaurs.
5.All remaining survivors were delivered to Coke 2's (empty) exhibition center, where there's a giant moat that would protect them from dinosaurs, except from the pteradons.
6.Coke 2 utilized the camouflage ability a few more times while hunting Attack on Titan armored Titan style.
7.Coke 2 is a veggie eater but is hunting purely for sport
-it's ripping tourists apart without care for food
8.When the military entered, it was a dinosaur battle royale of both humans against dinosaurs and dinosaurs against dinosaurs.
9.Finally, the military contained all the dinosaurs, except for Coke 2
-because they were trained to contain all species except for the hybrid. Which was yet to be studied but the boardroom is pushing them to put it out on display.
10.Coke 2 never had any raptor genes
- but due to genetic splicing of different DNA and random central dogma bullcrap, the DNA mixed between different species made a convergent DNA equivalent of raptor intelligence and was able to communicate with them.
Indomanous rex
For once I agree with Rob. I think Doug analyzes this movie way too much for a movie that is suppose to be lighthearted and fun. Who cares if Chris Pratt and the Clare character don't share much screen time, or that he can communicate with raptors, or other issues, YOU SUSPEND YOUR DISBELIEF. Unlike the previous they actually bothered giving us more than one dimensional characters. Also, while the Petrarex hybrid did look artificial at times, the scene of them in the part was really heart wrenching considering how many innocent people in the part were attacked, which was to me the highlight of the movie, more than the T-Rex fight. This movie had a lot of passion behind it, and I am not usually a technical kind of guy, but I admire the cinematography, the effects and how well they managed to deliver a sense of fear and dread. Heck, at least Chris Pratt was more memorable than Tom Hardy as Mad Max.
What is a Petrarex?
Its called a Dimorphidon. Its not a hybrid.
But to be fair. Doug does make some good points
I thought the CGI was fine. Granted this was the first JP movie I saw in theaters (didn't get the opportunities back in the day), so maybe I was already expecting fun, I thought the dinosaurs looked wonderful. Maybe not scientifically accurate in today's science, but I still had fun. And that's what I look for in a movie.
I just thought a lot of the character development was just dumb.
It wasn't perfect, but I could feel the presence of the dinosaurs in the theater, and coming from a director I've never heard of, I think it was a great first step.
Travis Linton Totally agree with you! This was my first JP movie I saw in theaters too and the CGI was ok, the problem, as many have pointed out is the fact that they overused it A LOT. I just spotted two freaking animatronics. Everything else was CGI and I hated that. Even JP III used more animatronics! Those are the things I missed the most on this movie: Stan Winston and John Williams
***** ,better than raiders of the lost ark?
Travis Linton I completely agree. I don't understand how Rob was saying the kid's story was better than anything in the first. Seriously? All we got was horny boy #12304 and "Wow cool!" kid. And a random scene of crying. That was just so bad.
Sword of the Morning You are goddamn right!
Rob, your impressions helped me survive Doug's attacks of hysteria. I laughed so hard xD Thank you.
I feel like Doug is criticizing this movie more for what it could've/should've been than for what it is.
The I-Rex looked more like a bastardized albino T-Rex (with slightly longer arms) than a "giant raptor" as Doug suggests. I actually didn't pick up on the raptor connection until they addressed it in the film.
Yeah. I get his criticisms regarding the film not taking full advantage of the park setting all throughout, and how the CGI is overused in comparison to the original film, but Jesus, you'd think someone who watched the OG film 11 times in the theaters would know what a THEROPOD is and not just call the Indominus a 'big raptor'.
I'm with Doug, they should've done more in the main park. I wanna see a dinosaur tearing through the gift shop or climbing around on the rides.
Say what you want, that movie was AMAZING!!! That ending! That ending! Oh my god!
Doug, I really like ya, I take consideration on what you say but I have to side with Rob with this one. At least he doesn't make a rant about SFX. Keep in mind that just like graphics in a video game, special effects doesn't make a movie.
But video games and a movie are two different platforms of media
Zalmai Azimi True, but the lesson still applies. You don't need something pretty to be good, just as long you got good writing and characters. Best example, James Cameron Avatar and The Order: 1886, they try so hard to be visually presentable that the story kinda suffers.
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Yeah, you notice in reviews that with some of the worst and/or most boring movies, one of the only few upsides they tend to have is...beautiful scenery or something.
HalfDemonInuyasha Exactly, that's the only exception most reviewers and critics can make.
Zalmai Azimi Although, in the case of "The Order: 1886", it tries to be both a movie and a video game and fails horribly in both regards. Other games try to give a "cinematic experience" but still have engaging gameplay. For instance, the new Lara Croft game and the Uncharted series tried to make cinematic experiences but at least the game play was interesting.
Oh my god Doug, the only hybrid was the Indominus. The "pterodactyl with a T-rex head" was a dimorphodon, not a hybrid.
Keaton Smith your almost right. its the only dinosaur that is a hybrid of other dinosaurs. everything they made is a hybrid because they use dna from other animals to fill in the gaps of the dna
Keaton Smith I suspect doesn't Doug knows that much about dinosaurs beyond the raptors and "motherfucking T. rex." He keeps saying the I. rex looks like an raptor, when it looks like an oversized Allosaurus, which looks like a lot like the I. rex, only smaller: res.cloudinary.com/dinopics/image/upload/v1431248954/Allosaurus_allosaurus_papo_8.jpg
Keaton Smith Dimorphodon, outside of shitty movies, was a fish eater the size of a crow, so I can see why he got confused
He probably also mistook the Apatosaurs for Brachiosaurs, well probably alot of people also did.
***** Insect eater right?
Best responce to any of their rants. Thank you Rob.
Watching Rob's face during Doug's rant definitely summed up my reactions. Absolutely agreed with Rob. One main thing, though: No one trusted Vincent D'Onofrio's character, they only went along with the things he did was because he threw his authority around in the control room and Chris Pratt didn't want the Raptor plan to end badly.
The only thing I agree with Doug about is the look of Indominus Rex. The sickly-white skin and the camo was fine, but it's mouth opened so far open that the character just looked silly. It would have looked cooler to have looked less like a standard bipedal-carnivore, but I think they wanted to not allow an alien-looking creature.
So basically Doug wanted the movie to open up with a crowd of random people. Then have dinosaurs attack them with no explanation or characters introduced and have that go on for 90 minutes.
Jurassic world is by far my favorite movie of the franchise and I like it even more than the original. The only problem I had with the movie was teenager because I didnt like how he acted in the movie and that they put a divorce story that had no purpose in the movie. Other than that, I was entertained, it was funny, the action is better than the other movies and I prefer it than the original
Alejandro Salvidres 100% agree finally I found someone who shares my opinion
I haven't seen Jurassic World yet, but wouldn't the whole "R-rating" thing that Doug pondered about kind of betray the family-friendly nature that this whole movie franchise is inherently built upon?
I mean I don't want him to fully compromise his feelings for the sake of the "purpose" of the movie; like if he just felt the action was mostly lame in this film then that sounds like a fine enough point to make, right? But yeah, sometimes his critiquing seems needlessly unrealistic to what the film is trying to go for, and "more disturbing gore" isn't what I'd say a *Jurassic Park* film is necessarily about.
Sir Jamesman! in my opinion based on watching this review, Doug wanted this movie to be an over the top generic Scifi channel horror flick. Because it did go dumb b-movie, but still maintaining the style and themes of the original, Doug could not be satisfied and probably never will be.
Sir Jamesman! Yeah, I mean, our inner 14-year-old wants a super bloody R rated Jurassic Park. But come on. That's never going to happen and Doug should know that. The studio wants maximum box office revenue, and the toy companies want to sell their toys, so that means PG-13.
Shin Seiki Evan Doug seems to have lost touch with the key audience of this franchise.
GameStation3 yeah but not to the extent that Doug wanted
The Pterosaur with the T-Rex head is a species called Dimorphodon, and that's approximately what they looked like.
I'm glad you're happy you saw Jurassic World and happy over the T-Rex's Alive.
Rob is hilarious during Doug's rant!
Um, I had no idea it was a raptor....I'm of similar opinion as Rob, I had a ton of fun and I've already seen it twice! XD
I don't get where this controversy about Jurassic World ignoring The Lost World and JP3 comes from. The official spin-off website for the film makes reference to Hoskins' leadership of a "clean-up" operation in 2001, which involved shooting down the Pteranodon that were seen flying to the mainland at the end of JP3. This confirms that JP3 is still considered canon, which means in turn that The Lost World is also canon, as it was directly referenced in JP3. Indominus really didn't look like just a giant raptor either. It lacked killing the toe claws, the head was a different shape, raptors didn't have scutes, quills and horns, and not to mention, it had a heavier build and didn't sound like a raptor at all.
The pteradon with the t-rex head is a Dimorphodon and is in fact a real animal at some point in the Earth`s history.
The way I see the whole divorce subplot thing: Hey kids, are your parents getting a divorce? That sucks. But hey, at least you're not about to be eaten by dinosaurs!
Has anyone noticed that there is a divorce subplot in every Jurassic Park film?
Was there one in Lost World?
***** Well, part of the film was about Malcolm reconnecting with his daughter as a single father.
***** Tim and Lex went to the park as a distraction while their parents were getting a divorce.
Spaceblazer Did they really? I thought they were just kids coming to the park because their grandpa was making this dinosaur park and they were getting a preview.
When they were about to go on the tour, Hammond mentioned it.
As far as reboots in recent years go I say Jurrasic World gets a gold star in my book.
New things
- Bigass sea monster showcase
- DINOSAUR FUCKING PETTING ZOO
- Dinosaur Tour where you can flat out run with a herd or canoe in their river
- Showing a T Rex eating a goat as an ATTRACTION (teased but still there)
- and most of all, RAPTOR SQUAD, not just a raptor squad, but he fucking RAISED those raptors, those raptors had FEELINGS and showed EMOTIONS... more than humans! When a raptor is pissed and wants to eat someone, you see it, when it's actually respecting their alpha, you SEE THAT it's its FACE! Every other movie the raptors were the monsters, what everyone feared, but in this movie they fucking choose sides and go back and forth! Seriously this is like the 3rd review I saw and nobody addressed this are you KIDDING ME!?
Agree with Rob - Jurassic World was super corny and it was winking at the audience the entire way through and going: "Hey guys, this is dumb isn't it? But it sure is fun, huh?" And it IS.
So, basically Doug wanted a SyFy original movie with a 100x bigger budget and effects that are actually convincing. All of his other arguments just seem to be him grasping at straws trying to justify why he doesn't like most of this movie.
I completely agree with Doug's Brother in this, Jurassic World was a really fun movie (in no way perfect, but still better than the other sequels).
And Doug just goes so over the top with his ranting, I find him hard to watch at times.
I love Doug but it's embarrassing to see a grown man complaining about character development so he could see more monsters...
Androzani Critic Doug is normally a stickler for character development, he's complaining because the film is clearly trying to be a dumb monster movie. For him, it failed to be that partially because it half-assedly tried to have genuine character moments.It didn't take itself seriously enough to be sincerely moving, and it took itself too seriously for him to just laugh it off and have fun.
Androzani Critic he had the same problem with godzilla
Androzani Critic That is why Honest trailers refers to him as a nitpicking crybaby
Way to misrepresent his argument. He's saying that if you're going to do character development, then ACTUALLY DO IT. The character "development" in this movie ultimately led nowhere and left us confused. This movie never picked a lane, either it should be a dumb monster movie or a serious movie with character development. It tried to do both and thus failed at both.
Way to misrepresent his argument. He's saying that if you're going to do character development, then ACTUALLY DO IT. The character "development" in this movie ultimately led nowhere and left us confused. This movie never picked a lane, either it should be a dumb monster movie or a serious movie with character development. It tried to do both and thus failed at both.
I agree with Rob mostly in this Doug is just harping on the same shit and it's not that stupid.
I love Rob's facial expressions while Doug is ranting. I wish he was holding up pictures of a screw and a ball, bats flying out of a belfry, corn on the cob, etc
Damn! Doug was Critic the whole video. And Rob was just like... yeah, whatever.
Doug, you nailed it.
So basically Doug wanted transformers with dinosaurs?
Bad CG? Er....Doug are you sure you saw Jurassic Word and not Sharknado again?
+Bane Knightfall Right? The CG is actually really nice and incredibly detailed.
To heck with it, FoodFight's animation makes Sharknado's animation look good.
Ultrai Breaker Now THAT is something we can ALL agree on.
What the fuck is Doug talking about? The CG in this movie was some of the best I have ever seen! The skin textures, the movement of the flesh, lighting, the weight when they move...Everything was spot on! The reason why you dont see much animatronics anymore is because its just not needed anymore!
I love Doug in this and the spoiler corner part. Usually I can connect more to Rob when he is very calm, straight and focused. He is more into the facts. But Jurassic Park is VERY special to Doug and I love that he is so passionate about it. This time he is absolutely understandable to me.
Am I the only one who thinks the CGI was pretty good? It was very convincing in many parts, like with the Raptors in the muzzles, and though I could always tell it was CG, there are very little, if any, instances where movies have had 100% convincing CGI. I think this is a fine example of how the Walkers, as well as much of the movie going world, has just become desensitized to CGI. "Awful,""terrible," and "butt-ugly" are waaay too heavy handed words to describe this CG and just speaks to how used to CG we've gotten.
Also, I have no idea what Dough was getting on about making the Andomidus a Frankenstein's hodge podge mess. That would have just been stupid and unfrightening. What were the scariest and most iconic dinosaurs of the first movie? The T-Rex and the Raptor, so making a giant combo of the two was the most logical and convincing choice.
To be honest Doug I think your way, WAY over exaggerating on the special effects. I saw this movie and yeah the effects aren't as great as the first one, but their pretty damn decent. The way your making it sound is like their the kind of effects the Sci-Fi Channel or the Asylum do. Hell the dinosaurs look more real in this film then the one's in Transformers: Age of Extinction.
God i would love a cynical, r rated and goty dinosaur movie with good animatronics, actually showing off the damage those teeth and claws can do to humans
*gory
***** exactly, that would be sick :D
Suwat Saksri I have to disagree, I think it would ruin the franchise for those people who like it more for other aspects than the attacks. However, I don't mean to offend, just to dialogue.
Doug, here's a little side note from a fan-
KUNG-FU ISN'T CGI, IT'S 3D ART!!!!!
Jordan Cherry If it's generated on a computer, which it was, it's Computer Generated Imagery
The Meg is what I think Doug wants. I enjoyed the hell out of that film. It knew it was dumb and had fun with it. Jurassic World did try to act like it was important which bothered me because the script wasn’t good
I can see where Doug is coming from and I totally understand his point of view, but I am totally gonna side with Rob on this one. I had a blast watching this movie, I enjoyed Chris Pratt and the action scenes and the brothers and the aunt, it's not perfect at all it's got some legit dumb moments and the cgi could use alot of work, but I can totally look past it cause it was just so much fun and that's all I expected coming in to the movie. Definately better than Lost World and JP3, it's a highly decent sequel to a great classic :)
Doug is blinded by nostalgia for this one and therefore I think is not qualified to review this.
***** He gave valid reasons you fanboys don't like opinion
What's fascinating about Jurassic World is that the underlining theme seems to be a gigantic middle finger to the idea of sequels in general.
Funny. It completely sucked as one. I'd watch Lost World and 3 over this garbage.
It was one of the best times I've had at a movie theater recently. Everyone cheered at the end and it gave me goosebumps.
No you're right. The only reason to hate JW is if you're an ass. My mistake.
I love that Rob was checking his phone while Doug was going on his rant.
Doug is 1000000 percent right on this one
_Lost World_ and _Jurrassic Park III_ still happened. I don't get why people keep saying this film ignores them!
1) They were on a different island, so it doesn't really affect the new film to start.
2) Ian Malcolm's book is a talking point and both 2 and 3. And guess where it showed up? On someone's desk in _Jurrassic World_. Look for it. It's there.
The San Diego incident is the only potential "pick." And even then, time wears things away. We as a culture, wouldn't care about it after 20+ years.
Rhett Gedies As I recall, the director/producers have pretty much said JP 2 and 3 were de-canonized with this movie. They could have canonized aspects, like Ian's book, but they've pretty much confirmed the other movies "didn't happen."
Brian Straight
I'd have to have a direct quote to be agree.....and even then, I'd be ticked (as both the others don't really even factor in to influence anything 4 and on).
Brian Straight Can you get a link to this? Cause I honestly saw nothing about that.
darkfur3 Reading into it more, it seems that that was mis-reported. The make of this movie said the sequels were being "Set Aside" as they took place on another island, this movie takes place on the park island. But, it seems the sequels "did happen" even if they're not too directly referred to. Personaly, I think they should have de-canoned them so as to not deal with the implications of them like pterodactyls/dons getting off the island.
Brian Straight If you read a news post on Masrani's website it states that Vic Hoskins captured the pteranodons that escaped at the end of the third movie so thats not an issue.
Does doug's extreme(yes, extreme) bias against cgi annoy anyone else? Yes, the cgi in this movie doesnt hold a candle to the animatronics but it still looks extremely good. I could just imagine every cgi artist in the movie industry wanting to punch him in the face cause this man is never satisfied.
khknight Seriously.
khknight My thoughts exactly
khknight The thing is, the more you watch CGI, the more you except the falseness of it all. When you're Like Doug or even Rob, and grew-up seeing movies with amazing practical effects ,CGI cannot compare to them. In the 90's, and at that the early 90's, they created masterful levels of CGI. CGI that looked so good, you could hardly tell that it was fake. We have advanced in our CGI since then, for better and for worse. Better because talented animators can make insanely real looking images, and allow audiences to feel connected to the film they are watching. On the other hand, that also means it allows " not so good" animators to work on projects; given that they want the movie to come out faster.. I'm sure the artist's that worked on this movie worked hard to complete it, but I doubt they have the raw talent that those Animator's of the original JP had. Today's audiences,( especially those from the age group from toddler to young adult) tend to not care about the realistic quality of CGI anymore. I for one, was only impressed once in JW. In JP, I sit in awe at the amazing quality of those realistic dinosaurs ,even today. And i'd say given the tools and money at their disposal, the JW team could've made a proper squeal/reboot.
khknight no, the CGI is so bad its gross. CGI ruined the prequels for example and i never even hear dough mention that
Sounds like Doug wants a Jurassic park similar to Godzilla's Revenge.
NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE SO MUCH NOPE!
Amy Lady EXACTLY!!
Tyler Williamson or based on how he kept saying he wanted it to go dumb as possible, transformers 4.
Sam Niel and the Kids was a complete arc or at least a good one, He essentially became an unwilling guardian to 2 kids in danger he's never met.
21:55 I was sitting there repeating PG13 over and over and then you did it, thx.
I do respect Doug's opinion I don't agree with him at all. But he is in titled to feel what he feels and that is that.
I am with Doug on this one. lol
And the first film was smart. Nothing came close to the concept of finding DNA in fossilized amber. This was Transformers for Jurassic Park
JurassicCollectables and wait did your little brother try to say the story was more powerful than the first Jurassic Park at 19:00? Well I think he just joined the ranks of the only person on earth who has problems with the first movie.
JurassicCollectables At 39:00 it's not laziness, more lack of planning. Essentially you shoot with a temporary and wooly script that isn't finished. CG is used to fill the gaps later. You need to let the practical guys know in advance what you need for each shot. Spielberg had it all planned meticulously.
JurassicCollectables Couldn't have said it better.
JurassicCollectables But they misspelled stegosaurus and tyrannosaurus. Does that count as problems?
*****
Being scientifically possible isn't the prime factor that makes a movie smart. It's the way how it tackles and approaches different deeper themes and theories. And the first Jurassic Park did great in that. End of story
The I.rex looks like a giant Abelisaurid with long arms. It doesn't look anything like a "raptor".
I love it when you guys debate. Good points from both sides.
That was not a Pterodactyle with a T-rex head that was a Dimorphodon.
To be fair I didn't know it was part raptor untill the scene where it talks to the raptors. I actually knew it right before Chris Pratt said it
Did they mention it was part raptor before the movie somewhere? Becuase I knew it was with the certainty of hearing it in a trailer that it was. I would pitch the movie to my family saying "it's about a t-rex mixed with a raptor and it's loose in the park"
I was kinda confused when they tried to keep it secret so either it was mentioned or I am a prophet
HowlingFlames I think it was either rumored or even announced beforehand. It certainly explains the intelligence, feathers and eyes.
Yeah I think I somehow soaked the rumor into my internet reading. Shame becuase I spoiled that surprise to my family mistakenly thinking it was in a trailer
+Alex Robertson I first thought it might be human spliced cause of the classified
Dorky Dragon that would've either been really interesting and great, or it would've ended up more like "The Creature Walks Among Us", 1956.
I liked this movie when I saw it in the theater. As I thought about it later, I realized that the plot, characters (aside from the kids), and particularly the gender politics were kind of terrible. The kiss really bothered me too. It just confused the crap out of me. There were things I liked about it. The dinosaur bits carried me through. It's big and dumb and fun, so while I agree with Doug, I also agree with Rob?
Also, the thing that pisses everyone off I never understood. "Oh my gosh, she's running around wearing heels! Ugh! So unrealistic!" I'm sorry, what? So it's better for her to run around IN THE JUNGLE barefoot? GIVE ME A BREAK!
Holy shit, Doug! Calm the fuck down!
I literally shouted "I'M A MOTHERFUCKING T. REX!!!" the moment the credits were done, then said it again in personal letters of recommendation to my friends and family. Thank you, Doug, for giving me the language to articulate the emotions I felt at that moment in the film.
The original Jurassic park"s characters may not have been the deepest characters ever written but they were still way more interesting than the ones in Jurassic world.
Team Rob for the Win - I loved this movie!
And for Christ's sake, you want bad CGI dinosaurs watch 'Land of the Lost' that was awful, made Jurassic Park III look like the first to JP films!!
Y'all notice how Doug keeps saying "monsters?" That's the one thing I really don't like about Jurassic Park. Any of them. I love the movies, but they all do this one thing that I absolutely hate: they do just that, paint the carnivorous dinosaurs as "monsters". Rather then behaving like animals (WHICH DINOSAURS FUCKING WERE) that are looking to survive, all the dinosaurs in the Jurassic Park series act like fucking psychopaths, running around axing people off like the villain in a slasher movie. That's the one thing I truly hate Spielberg for: he painted the public's perception of dinosaurs as hyper-dangerous super-murderers rather then wild animals. You know what a real Velociraptor would probably do if it ran into a human being, just by chance? It would probably think "Whoah, what the fuck is that!? I don't know what that is, which freaks me the fuck out, so I'm gonna get the fuck out of here!" and it would then bolt. Do you know what a Velociraptor raised in Jurassic Park would do if it's pen was opened? "Huh, my pen is open. Of course, I've lived in this pen all my life, and have come to associate it with security and home, and I'm routinely brought food and kept safe as long as I remain here, so I think I'll just stay here and keep my eye on that opening in case anything scary comes for me. Oh, look, a human, good, they'll keep me safe, or maybe bring me some food, that would be nice." Spielberg's raptors? "Oh, look, my pen is open, BETTER FUCKING KILL EVERYONE LOL."
And I'm not stupid, I know animals can be dangerous. And dinosaurs were probably even more dangerous, because they were in many cases bigger and stronger then modern animals. But still, there is a line. No wild animal is ever going to deliberately place itself in anything that might be danger for the sole purpose of committing murder. And if they were raised in a safe hatchery, and later a safe enclosure, in both of which they were taken care of by humans, they would not flip their shit and start killing people at the earliest opportunity.
bigfatcarp93 Actually if a real raptor saw you it would contact it's pack to hunt you down and eat you, these were not the timid and flighty animals of today.
In the first Jurassic Park they have a ten minute conversation about the morals and ethics of bringing back extinct creatures into the modern era, and both Grant and Ellie as well as Malcolm mention how these are basically animals who have no idea what era their in and will defend themselves and act like animals. Even in this movie Chris Pratt says these creatures don't know they were made in test tubes and have animals instincts.
The Sick triceratops and the first reveal of the Brachiosaur are tantamount to Spielberg's attempt to make these more than monsters, the problem is that the carnivores were built to be alpha predators and are, the reason their so scary is because they are following instinct and nature.
the raptors are expert hunters capable of problem solving and working together as a pack therefore they act like such, the T-Rex was a juggernaut alpha predator and is shown as such.
the reason their called monsters is because they are seen as such since they are hybrids created in labs, however, one thing i felt was the point of this movie was too show how the I-Rex was not a regular animal but was a purposely created genetic Frankenstein creation of man whereas most of the other species had minor hybridization. So having the T-rex, Raptor and Mollasaur take her down in the end was their way of showing nature taking down the technology created monster.
Mckenzie .Latham Erm, no. No on several counts. First of all, you are not incorrect that that is what Spielberg was _trying_ to do, portray them as more then just monsters. But if look at almost *every single thing* dinosaurs have appeared in since, you can see that he clearly failed. All people have done since is portray them as killer monsters. Look at almost every single dinosaur movie, TV show and video game since the release of Jurassic Park to see this pattern. Not every one, but almost every one.
Secondly, where exactly are you getting this information that dinosaurs were apparently so much more aggressive then modern animals? Because that's almost certainly bullshit. Animals don't waste energy on pointless aggression, and they don't blindly attack what they don't understand. An animal's point is _survival_, and doing either of those things is contrary to that.
bigfatcarp93 Ironically, Dr. Grant said a million times in the first movie that they're "animals, not monsters". The Raptors and the Spinosaurus certainly disagree with him there.
That said, I wouldn't say ALL the creatures are depicted as psychopaths. The T. rex stops chasing the heroes when she realizes it's no longer worth it, the Dilophosaurus was a baby who was mostly just acting out of curiosity, the Pteranodons were parents looking to feed and protect their babies, etc. Additionally, the T. rex in the first film only ate one human (because she was hungry) and said human was the slimy lawyer. Oh, and the T. rex and Stegosaurus in the second film mostly went after the humans for threatening/going near their babies and the first Compy attack happened because a little girl made the profoundly stupid decision to give one of them food.
This extends to Jurassic World in fact. The pterosaurs only attacked out of redirected aggression from being forced out of their habitat by the I-Rex (like a swarm of hornets forced out of their hive), the Mosasaurus only ate Zara because she saw the Pteranodon and wanted to eat it instead and even the raptors act a bit more animal-like than their previous portrayals.
CJCroen1393 Actually, I really liked that about JW: It seemed to me that for once, all the animals were actually acting like animals.
bigfatcarp93
True.
And to be fair, I think the carnivorous dinos would probably be depicted as monsters even if there was conclusive proof that they were the most docile creatures ever when not hunting. It's a carnivore thing.
A giant raptor? I thought the Indominus looked more like a T-Rex with some added spikes and horns and stuff.
I think Doug's a little too high on his horse; I think it's actually a giraffe at this point. I'm not saying the movie's perfect--fuck no. I agree the CG wasn't great, but it did the job, the world was beautifully realized from a design perspective, they did a good job of weaving the stories together, the characters... well the one villain guy was idiotic but the rest I could see existing. Hell, my only real complaint is that I personally found the older brother to be utterly irredeemable after the divorce talk. But I thoroughly enjoyed the movie and found the way they animated the dinosaurs to give them subtle emotions absolutely brilliant. Not saying it's perfect, but Doug's becoming way too jaded here.