That's gotta be the first game where the player is discouraged because how the hell is the objective a good thing? Fuck Aerosmith, they're the aliens problem now.
The two I recall... Operation Wolf - Atari ST: Choppy and unstable (frequent bombs), but complete, and good fun T2 - Amiga: Shockingly good, a bit easier because it just threw less stuff at you, but did also support twin mice, a definite novelty.
I loved Lethal Enforcers (I & II) for the Sega Genesis. It was a blast. We had a 27 inch CRT and would play that game for hours. Playing standing up definitely improved your game rather than sitting on the couch. I also liked playing the T2:The Arcade Game with the Menacer on the Genesis as well.
Hey, Larry! Fancy bumping into you here, my dude! 😁 Speaking of Crypt Killer, the AVGN did an episode on it not too long ago, though I think he covered the Sega Mega CD version as opposed to the Saturn one. Still, just seeing the absolute horrendous mess it was brought back memories of my half-brother visiting when I was a kid and him bringing this beautiful disaster of a game along with him for us to play together in spite of my parents forbidding him because they thought it would give little Jolis nightmares. Ah, fun times, those were. 🤤
Revolution X was also ported to the PC. A platform well known for its vast choice of light guns and other such input devices. To quote Aerosmith: "Remember, music is a weapon." To quote me: "Well, at least I only spend €1 on a copy on this steaming pile of stinkiness."
Funnily enough revolution X on ps1 was my best friend's favorite game in grade school at the time even though we had twisted metal 2 and other games like resident evil 2 and such.
I miss playing Saturn Virtua Cop on our 52" Magnavox rear projector TV. The looks on my friends' faces when they walked into the living room were priceless 😄
Same, and House of the Dead! Although, back in those days, we could only hook our games up to the projection tv when our parents weren't home, because dad was so scared of the dreaded "burn-in." Luckily, I knew to just change the game up frequently if they had static images, lol.
@@Lost_n_Found_1 Lol. Dad would flip a shit about burn in from them vidya games... But then immidiately put football/baseball/hockey/basketball/your national sport here on the very same TV with the static score boxes, network logos, etc. That would of course burn right into the screen. Whoops.
@@steel5897 I think a solid 2/3 of the NES library is played by exactly no one these days. There's just basically infinite forgotten bad/mediocre games.
I think the fact he threw in a Hacienda reference is due to the probably correct assumption that most of the viewers are in the age group that would have any clue what the Hacienda actually was. Also he included a couple of seconds of Blue Monday ,although it's a well known record, it's going to strike a few memory flashes in a certain age group of the generation that would have gone to the Hacienda and heard the record that hit the clubs just before the first rumbles of the Acid House cultural explosion actually appeared ,apparently overnight and suddenly everywhere. Happy, warm, innocent and nostalgic memories of a totally different way of life and interaction between us all.
Revolution X is one of my most played games on my home made mega-arcade cabinet. It's flat out fun. With a ridiculous premise, great scaling visuals, interesting set pieces, and pounding hard rock by Aerosmith. Up to 3 players!
I must admit, I was rather impressed by T2 on the Master System, but I am easily impressed by parallax effects, and the old black box could do them when it tried. Phaser support might have made it a bit of a classic. Space Gun was indeed a dreary mess, though.
Wtf?! Revolution X is pretty cool. One of the very few games of its kind that basically enables you to destroy just about everything put in front of your face. The controls were also pretty good (played it on the SNES and later the arcade version). The weirdness is what makes the game! Your "rockets" are disks, what's not to love about that?!
New Order references are always welcome. (I think my brain had already made the same rhytmic connection.) Glancing back at our earlier electronic selves through a slightly-skewd lens, is absolutely your talent-set sir.
You know, one of my biggest regrets in life is not realizing Duck Hunt was a 2 player game until I was an adult. How did nobody I knew realize that? Somehow we all sat there and played one at a time.. Like morons.. Ugh.. Can you tell I'm bitter?
the master system gun was truly superior to the nes zapper. It actually looked for the scan line giving full acess to the screen rather than crappy sprite flashing.
I just realize rail shooters are like whack-a-mole. Modern arcades often have water gun rail shooters. (Ice man) man and Plants vs. zombies are common examples of that.
@@HappyBeezerStudios Yes. With water guns. I messed up the name a bit. Ice Man was supposed to be Plants Vs Zombies, but the company lost the right to the name. I think some cabinets still have the original name though.
Let's be honest here, Revolution X was a turkey even in the arcades. The only reason it got as much attention as it did was because Aerosmith was in the middle of their 90s renaissance at the time... (In case anyone wondered what exactly happened to them, they've spent the last few years as a Las Vegas residency act - a bunch of planned 50th anniversary stuff was scuttled by the pandemic, and unfortunately the odds of the band touring again are low due to age-related concerns...)
Hahaha I remember renting Revolution X, being blown away by hearing the song "Ragdoll" coming out of my SNES! I also have a very vivid memories of playing in the school yard, pretending to throw silver and gold discs just like in the game.
This brings back memories of the Hit Squad version of Operation Thunderbolt on the Spectrum back in the 90s, I remember the POW women where topless in there.lool
A couple of years ago I buyed a sega cartridge wich had a nice label with the name "Counter-Strike" and has the CS logo on it. Turned out to be the "Lethan Enforcers" but with the logo of CS on it. I'm not disapointed at all, it was a good purchase.
@@adamlane6453 same im not epileptic. It just gives me a headache lol. But I know a lot of people are affected by strobing light. So if even I find it kind of annoying and headache inducing it just makes me think something with a real condition might have an issue. So hope it benefits everyone.
oh man... i used to play lethal enforcers and revolution x back in the day at an arcade. i knew the guy who owned the cabs and he let me "test" play them every day. he would come in about an hour or so before the place would open up so he could get the quarters out of the machines and fill up the quarter machines, but when he was getting the quarters out of a machine, he wouls always ask me if i wanted to play and would put a bunch of credits on the cab for me. there were a couple of those games i got really good at. lol
The SMS port of Space Gun was the first game that came to mind when seeing this video in my feed. The biggest enemy in that one is trying to keep your eyes open during that boring slog of a game. And damn that review was (rightfully!) scathing, LOL. Learned about Lethal Weapon on famicom from this video, appreciate the recommend! Some surprisingly decent unlicensed shooters on NES/Famicom, like "Master Shooter". Even "Crime Busters" is a pretty decent addition to the limited light gun library there. Try "Hit Marmot" for a laugh also- just what the hell is going on in that introduction/demo? lol
Correction: Rail Shooters aren't light gun games. In some cases they made light gun versions. A rail shooter is like Operation Wolf, Revolution X, Terminator 2 Judgment Day, etc. This is basically an analog stick controlling the X-Y of a cursor. There is nothing sensing light. A light gun game like Duck Hunt, Time Crisis, Carnevil, etc. Is a photosensor sending a flash command to the console resulting in scanline changes in respect to refresh rate which the photosensor picks up in order to return a hit or miss. Later it would evolve into knowing exactly where the scanline was and therefore where you aimed (Duck Hunt or Hogan's Alley do not work like this). So while yes your perspective is "on a rail" , only the games controlling through a mounted gun without photosensor are rail shooters.
When I finally saved up $90 to buy Lethal Enforcers on Sega CD, I was so happy! It was so much better than Hogan's Alley. It was also my first game to actually sport the MA-17 rating.
I personally think that Revolution X arcade is a way better game than T2 arcade. T2 is cool, and is fun for the most part, but it is a quarter muncher. It is on purposely unfair in parts just to earn more of the players money. Revolution X Is more fleshed out with a few secrets, and more fair gameplay. Its cheezy, but I think it is an improvement over T2. Great vid either way!
The DOS port of Operation Wolf was far and away the best, IMO, I'm surprised you skipped over it. As a child I couldn't distinguish it at all from the arcade version, graphically. Of course, I didn't have a DOS lightgun, but using a trackball to aim the cursor worked significantly better than arrow keys on a keyboard or a controller D-pad.
3:05 "Beg, steal or borrow a copy of this game..." Well, behind the humorous tone of that sentence, there's quite a realistic statement! Those were the ways (besides, ahem, illegally copying) a kid could actually get a game. Even if you actually went to a store and bought it yourself, since you did that with mommy's or daddy's money, it still falls into the begging category...
So yeah, in 1996 my parents got me and my kid brother a Sega Saturn and a bunch of games. Virtual cop, daytona usa, virtual fighter 2, panzer dragoon zwei and..... Revolution X. Guess which one we played first? That said, the Aerosmith soundtrack sounded great on the saturn. The downside was it was short clips and they looped.
I really miss light gun games, it's just sad that they died out not on their own accord. Home light gun games went out with the demise of the CRT TV, and the Arcade cabinet ones, well, they died with the Arcades. So I honestly don't think that they ever really died out of popularity but instead were a victim of the changing times. As whenever you find one out in the wild somewhere, people are ALWAYS ready and willing to pump in a few quarters. As they kind of went full circle, first only being available in the Arcades, to being in your home, to again only in arcades or wherever you happen to find them. BUT I think we COULD be seeing somewhat of a resurgence of the light gun games, just in a slightly different, but still familiar form. With today's VR technology a lot of on rails shooters have come about and have seen a LOT of success bringing back that same light gun game excitement. Games such as Robo Recall, Space Pirate Trainer and Pistol Whip have seen pretty good popularity, even house of the dead style Zombie shooters like Arizona Sunshine, Death Horizon, Drop Dead Dual Strike and others. So I don't think "light gun" games and on rail shooters completely died out but just waited for the right time to come back swinging, or rather shooting...lol.
Wow, you have just aided me solving a childhood mistery arcade cabinet! Now I know it was a Taito Space Gun. We occasionally gathered with a few classmates after elementary school classes were over in an old poorly maintained pub nearby. Sipping soft drinks and playing on this kind of cabinet. I don't think it ever was monochrome, but the monitor looked to me like a green phosphor type like our home PC equipped with simple CGA graphics at that time. Now I know that the cabinet was just either malfunctioning (red and blue colors missing) or someone replaced the original color monitor with a green mono one. It was somewhat harder to recognize things on the screen because of this. So in the end it seems someone just being cheap ass on repair and maintenance. :) I don't remember the game controller though. Not even how playable the game was with it.
The version of that game that I'm familiar with had a big red and blue set of raygun looking ones that where fixed to the cabnet. a button on the side for bombs or something if I can recall? We had one at Nickle World Arcade, and I too was like "oh, THAT game!"
I remember as a kid being really excited to find Beast Busters for my ST in a local games shop. I loved it so much in the arcade! Then I got home and loaded it up..... 😭🤦♂️ Another great video btw!
I am one of the weird ones that likes Generation X. I loved it in the arcade because the guns were very similar to the T2 guns. so similar in fact they were the T2 guns. Generation X was sold as a conversion kit for the Terminator 2 arcade cabinets. I stupidly bought the Genesis game after getting a Menacer and guess what... it didn't work like T2. while that kills the play-ability for me, it didn't kill my love for the game. Its T2 with cool music and your gun shoots CDs!!! that's pretty cool and i cant imagine a game being any more 90's. Lets also not forget the Pink justifier was only available via mail in offer.
Ahhh time crisis. Many evenings I spent playing the first one on ps1. I distinctly remember coming home after school, it was winter so it was darker than normal and it was too late to go outside, the glow of the CRT, low hum of the Ps2 (I had the ps1 copy but a ps2 to play it) it was bliss
Really enjoyed the video.loved operation wolf and Thunderbolt. couldnt wait to play them in our local arcade when they appeared.so loud and great eye popping graphics
Ah The Justifier. Probably the coolest light gun ever made, and one of the reasons we have the ESRB today. Part of my collection is all the games that led to the American video game ratings we know today.
I always felt light gun games were never that great on any home console until we saw Point Blank and also Time Crisis land on PlayStation. They were close to perfection.
The not so humble Speccy triumphs again! Operation Wolf was stellar on the ZX Spectrum. It played superbly well, had plenty of enemies on screen and featured the big enemies. Overall markedly superior to the conversions on the other 8 and 16-bit micros.
Operation wolf on nes was perhaps my worst ever nintendo 90s memory in my life, imagine being a kid, with a brand new nintendo, u only had smb and duck hunt for around a year then suddenly u get 2 new games and u were dreaming for a whole year about SMB2 or ZELDA or METROID and u get....OPERATION WOLF and TO THE EARTH....it was the saddest time of my life, from all the games, i was given these two stinkers, at least on the next time (a year later) i got me SMB 2 and 3 , snake's revenge, wrath of the black manta and dr mario and it was the best time ever.
I was the only kid in my neighbourhood who completed all four difficulty levels of the Master System version of "Operation: Wolf". This may be nostalgia talking but I still think it's up there with the original 8-bit "Sonic the Hedgehog" and of course "Wonderboy: The Dragon's Trap" for one of the best Master System games out there. I still remember learning to get the grenade placed in just the right spot that you'd hit the general's hitbox but not hit his hostage, one-shotting him. Good times.
I actually really liked Space Gun on the ZX Spectrum. It was vastly better than the Master System version which was surprising considering the ZX Spectrum was all but dead at the time.
I've never played any of these games in the arcade. I did once watch someone playing T2: the Arcade Game. He had a stack of tokens and was feeding another one (or two?) in every 10-20 seconds or so. That's the one thing I've always disliked about any type of rail shooters, it's literally impossible to shoot everything without getting hit yourself. I never had any consoles past the Atari era and never had any lightguns for any of my computers. In fact, the only lightgun I've ever used was the one attached to the Coleco Telstar Arcade, way back in the 70s, and all I got to do with that was shoot a moving block on the screen. And after a month or two, the gun didn't even work properly anymore. It would register a hit no matter where you pointed it, even if you covered the barrel.
Funnily enough, when I saw this title I thought 'Oh god, Operation Wolf on C64 was AWFUL'. It was one of the few times I was allowed to choose and buy a game at Toys R Us, and I bought it based on the cassette case art and graphics promised alone. I'd no idea of the style of game it was having never seen it in the arcade, and just remember trying to move the cross-hairs with my Quicksilver joystick was misery. Must be the shortest amount of time I ever went from buying a game to never loading it up again.
I had Revolution X on the Genesis, and yeah it's no masterpiece, but it's far from unplayable, now the PC DOS version is trash that just would not run unless you had very specific hardware.
I think teaching bystanders to get out of the way is a good thing. A similar game today would have all the bystanders standing in the way recording video on their phones. I enjoyed this video massively. Though I grew up with the Master System and Mega Drive, I had no idea these dodgy arcade ports existed. I liked Safari Hunt just fine, and it came free with the console. Oh and those concerned senate members and their hearings on videogame violence. I think the best thing they accomplished was to educate old rich white men to the fact that videogames were not solely intended for use by the 12 and under crowd. I know Night Trap has nothing to do with this video, but I thought it was hilarious that most of the objections they had to that game seemed to be based on the mistaken idea that the object of the game was for the player to murder the early 90's jailbait. I may be wrong, but I thought the object was to stop the killer and save the 'innocent' young ladies.
Oh yeah! Revolution X! I've always been a big fan of Aerosmith, so I couldn't resist playing Revolution X. I'm sure I still have my PC CD-ROM copy sitting around here somewhere. It really isn't an enjoyable game without the Aerosmith tunes pumping through your speakers.
Guys, if you love OPERATION WOLF (and who the hell doesn’t) get yourselves an OCCULUS QUEST 2! There’s a game called Operation Wolf or something like that - it literally PUTS YOU IN THE GAME! It’s so hard to describe but, honestly, it’s pretty trippy and the game itself is awesome! Lolol trust me…. just get one….
Good golly, I loved that T2 arcade game. Many a hard-earned quarter found its way into that machine. Glad I never tried to emulate the experience at home.
Revolution X: Aerosmith has been kidnapped by aliens or something
Me: so what's the problem exactly?
That's gotta be the first game where the player is discouraged because how the hell is the objective a good thing? Fuck Aerosmith, they're the aliens problem now.
Also, "Music is the ultimate weapon." Which means "Shoot CDs at everyone's face."
or just play Rag Doll over and over until they leave
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@@MrTaxiRob
Isn't that The Doors?
The two I recall...
Operation Wolf - Atari ST: Choppy and unstable (frequent bombs), but complete, and good fun
T2 - Amiga: Shockingly good, a bit easier because it just threw less stuff at you, but did also support twin mice, a definite novelty.
I loved Lethal Enforcers (I & II) for the Sega Genesis. It was a blast. We had a 27 inch CRT and would play that game for hours. Playing standing up definitely improved your game rather than sitting on the couch. I also liked playing the T2:The Arcade Game with the Menacer on the Genesis as well.
If you do a follow up, Crypt Killer on the Sega Saturn, terrible port done by Konami themselves, almost as bad as the Japanese name for the game :D
'Ello you
Hey, Larry! Fancy bumping into you here, my dude! 😁
Speaking of Crypt Killer, the AVGN did an episode on it not too long ago, though I think he covered the Sega Mega CD version as opposed to the Saturn one. Still, just seeing the absolute horrendous mess it was brought back memories of my half-brother visiting when I was a kid and him bringing this beautiful disaster of a game along with him for us to play together in spite of my parents forbidding him because they thought it would give little Jolis nightmares. Ah, fun times, those were. 🤤
@@Jolis_Parsec You are thinking of Corpse Killer.
@@Boojakascha Yeah, I realized that after I posted it. Ah well, too late now. 🤷🏻♂️
I had Corpse Killer for Sega CD, what an awful game
I loved Revolution X as a kid.
“Music…is a weapon!!”
Wolly's Windmiill! Never thought I'd here such a specific 90's Great Yarmouth reference on here! Oh the memories...
Revolution X was also ported to the PC. A platform well known for its vast choice of light guns and other such input devices.
To quote Aerosmith: "Remember, music is a weapon."
To quote me: "Well, at least I only spend €1 on a copy on this steaming pile of stinkiness."
That New Order joke caught me completely off-guard, good job =)
Funnily enough revolution X on ps1 was my best friend's favorite game in grade school at the time even though we had twisted metal 2 and other games like resident evil 2 and such.
"Using a controller feels like you are sloshing a fishing rod around in a dirty canal."
I miss playing Saturn Virtua Cop on our 52" Magnavox rear projector TV. The looks on my friends' faces when they walked into the living room were priceless 😄
Same, and House of the Dead! Although, back in those days, we could only hook our games up to the projection tv when our parents weren't home, because dad was so scared of the dreaded "burn-in." Luckily, I knew to just change the game up frequently if they had static images, lol.
@@Lost_n_Found_1 Lol. Dad would flip a shit about burn in from them vidya games... But then immidiately put football/baseball/hockey/basketball/your national sport here on the very same TV with the static score boxes, network logos, etc. That would of course burn right into the screen. Whoops.
I honestly didn't mind Revolution X on the SNES
There's only one thing more enjoyable than seeing retro games:
Seeing the horrendously bad ones.
I love it
People only remember the good ones, and the bad ones that AVGN happened to cover. But that iceberg is way way deeper.
@@steel5897 I think a solid 2/3 of the NES library is played by exactly no one these days. There's just basically infinite forgotten bad/mediocre games.
I think that's the real reason we're all here, deep down, you know it. It's just soo....ewwwww
I think the fact he threw in a Hacienda reference is due to the probably correct assumption that most of the viewers are in the age group that would have any clue what the Hacienda actually was. Also he included a couple of seconds of Blue Monday ,although it's a well known record, it's going to strike a few memory flashes in a certain age group of the generation that would have gone to the Hacienda and heard the record that hit the clubs just before the first rumbles of the Acid House cultural explosion actually appeared ,apparently overnight and suddenly everywhere. Happy, warm, innocent and nostalgic memories of a totally different way of life and interaction between us all.
This video series is amazing. Looking forward to watching this one a bit later today.
Revolution X is one of my most played games on my home made mega-arcade cabinet. It's flat out fun. With a ridiculous premise, great scaling visuals, interesting set pieces, and pounding hard rock by Aerosmith. Up to 3 players!
I must admit, I was rather impressed by T2 on the Master System, but I am easily impressed by parallax effects, and the old black box could do them when it tried. Phaser support might have made it a bit of a classic. Space Gun was indeed a dreary mess, though.
Wtf?! Revolution X is pretty cool.
One of the very few games of its kind that basically enables you to destroy just about everything put in front of your face.
The controls were also pretty good (played it on the SNES and later the arcade version).
The weirdness is what makes the game!
Your "rockets" are disks, what's not to love about that?!
New Order references are always welcome. (I think my brain had already made the same rhytmic connection.)
Glancing back at our earlier electronic selves through a slightly-skewd lens, is absolutely your talent-set sir.
You know, one of my biggest regrets in life is not realizing Duck Hunt was a 2 player game until I was an adult. How did nobody I knew realize that? Somehow we all sat there and played one at a time.. Like morons.. Ugh.. Can you tell I'm bitter?
the master system gun was truly superior to the nes zapper. It actually looked for the scan line giving full acess to the screen rather than crappy sprite flashing.
I just realize rail shooters are like whack-a-mole.
Modern arcades often have water gun rail shooters. (Ice man) man and Plants vs. zombies are common examples of that.
They made a PvZ rail shooter?
@@HappyBeezerStudios
Yes. With water guns.
I messed up the name a bit.
Ice Man was supposed to be Plants Vs Zombies, but the company lost the right to the name. I think some cabinets still have the original name though.
3:50 "....sloshing a fishing rod around in a dirty canal"
Your talking about my childhood!
I have operation wolf on the Master System, and it was tough but I remember it being pretty good, but I struggled to ever complete it
Time Crisis on the PS1 was the nuts. GCon45 with an old non dual shock controller as a foot pedal. Excellent
I was kind of disappointed that Taito never released some Operation Wolf/Space Gun compilation on PS1, the GunCon would have been perfect for it.
Don't know if CABAL fits since it's each level is a static screen, but it was quite good on the c64 at least.
It really does sound like the intro to Blue Monday. It's one of those things that once you hear, you can't unhear.
Nice BrutalMoose cameo at 0:17
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Let's be honest here, Revolution X was a turkey even in the arcades. The only reason it got as much attention as it did was because Aerosmith was in the middle of their 90s renaissance at the time...
(In case anyone wondered what exactly happened to them, they've spent the last few years as a Las Vegas residency act - a bunch of planned 50th anniversary stuff was scuttled by the pandemic, and unfortunately the odds of the band touring again are low due to age-related concerns...)
Hahaha I remember renting Revolution X, being blown away by hearing the song "Ragdoll" coming out of my SNES! I also have a very vivid memories of playing in the school yard, pretending to throw silver and gold discs just like in the game.
What's that soothing outro music? Sounds like the last thing we'll hear when AI's take over.
It´s the beginning part of Martin Luther Malcom X by Chinksey.
as long as it's not Aerosmith...
@@ProfessorProvocative awesome! Thank you!
This brings back memories of the Hit Squad version of Operation Thunderbolt on the Spectrum back in the 90s, I remember the POW women where topless in there.lool
I killed four light guns for the Dreamcast playing House of the Dead 2. Fantastic game. You grow to love the beyond terrible voice acting.
Ah, the Master System Phaser! The memories! :)
slopping a fishing rod around in a dirty canal - love it
A couple of years ago I buyed a sega cartridge wich had a nice label with the name "Counter-Strike" and has the CS logo on it. Turned out to be the "Lethan Enforcers" but with the logo of CS on it. I'm not disapointed at all, it was a good purchase.
Truly a missed opportunity: typing of the dead for zx spectrum.
Can you imagine.
Wow you really woke up and chose violence today...
You might want to put a warning about those flashing screens throughout the video. Thanks.
I'm not strobe-sensitive, but I do have other sensory processing issues, and I appreciate you putting the message out there!
@@adamlane6453 same im not epileptic. It just gives me a headache lol. But I know a lot of people are affected by strobing light. So if even I find it kind of annoying and headache inducing it just makes me think something with a real condition might have an issue. So hope it benefits everyone.
@@adamlane6453 It's a video about video games, it's to be expected.
6:51 - I love your commentary in this section. You should write action film one-liners. XD
Operation Wolf was such a revelation when it came out in the arcades, good memories.
Revolution x was one of the few games i had growing up, i didnt much like it, but i played it enough that i did end up completing the game.
Revolution X was not a bad game. It was coin-eater but it was enjoyable.
Taito were genuinely great at cramming arcade cabinets into the SMS, my favourite developer for the system.
oh man... i used to play lethal enforcers and revolution x back in the day at an arcade. i knew the guy who owned the cabs and he let me "test" play them every day. he would come in about an hour or so before the place would open up so he could get the quarters out of the machines and fill up the quarter machines, but when he was getting the quarters out of a machine, he wouls always ask me if i wanted to play and would put a bunch of credits on the cab for me. there were a couple of those games i got really good at. lol
forever angry at my local Peter Piper Pizza for getting rid of Time Crisis for a bunch of (essentially) slot machines
Come on over! To Peter Piper Pizza.
@@MiTBender "Peter Piper tastes like a diaper!"
I actually once saw a regular first person shooter at an arcade. You had the time limit and every time you killed someone you got more time.
3:58
“Snake, remember the basics of CQC”
I still remember getting a funny look from an OAP when I was reading the copy of Amstrad Action with the light gun on the cover on a bus 🙂
2:18 "Vat actually worked in vhe favor for vose" was a real tongue twister for me
Thanks for making this, your videos are quite enjoyable
There are few new games in the genre these days, but one called Blue Estate back in 2016 was a pleasant surprise.
C64 Op Wolf was great, but tough.
The SMS port of Space Gun was the first game that came to mind when seeing this video in my feed. The biggest enemy in that one is trying to keep your eyes open during that boring slog of a game. And damn that review was (rightfully!) scathing, LOL.
Learned about Lethal Weapon on famicom from this video, appreciate the recommend! Some surprisingly decent unlicensed shooters on NES/Famicom, like "Master Shooter". Even "Crime Busters" is a pretty decent addition to the limited light gun library there. Try "Hit Marmot" for a laugh also- just what the hell is going on in that introduction/demo? lol
Correction:
Rail Shooters aren't light gun games. In some cases they made light gun versions.
A rail shooter is like Operation Wolf, Revolution X, Terminator 2 Judgment Day, etc. This is basically an analog stick controlling the X-Y of a cursor. There is nothing sensing light.
A light gun game like Duck Hunt, Time Crisis, Carnevil, etc. Is a photosensor sending a flash command to the console resulting in scanline changes in respect to refresh rate which the photosensor picks up in order to return a hit or miss. Later it would evolve into knowing exactly where the scanline was and therefore where you aimed (Duck Hunt or Hogan's Alley do not work like this).
So while yes your perspective is "on a rail" , only the games controlling through a mounted gun without photosensor are rail shooters.
When I finally saved up $90 to buy Lethal Enforcers on Sega CD, I was so happy! It was so much better than Hogan's Alley. It was also my first game to actually sport the MA-17 rating.
I personally think that Revolution X arcade is a way better game than T2 arcade. T2 is cool, and is fun for the most part, but it is a quarter muncher. It is on purposely unfair in parts just to earn more of the players money. Revolution X Is more fleshed out with a few secrets, and more fair gameplay. Its cheezy, but I think it is an improvement over T2. Great vid either way!
The DOS port of Operation Wolf was far and away the best, IMO, I'm surprised you skipped over it. As a child I couldn't distinguish it at all from the arcade version, graphically. Of course, I didn't have a DOS lightgun, but using a trackball to aim the cursor worked significantly better than arrow keys on a keyboard or a controller D-pad.
A hacienda joke and new order in the same nostalgia nerd video??
Must be my lucky week lmao.
3:05 "Beg, steal or borrow a copy of this game..." Well, behind the humorous tone of that sentence, there's quite a realistic statement! Those were the ways (besides, ahem, illegally copying) a kid could actually get a game. Even if you actually went to a store and bought it yourself, since you did that with mommy's or daddy's money, it still falls into the begging category...
So yeah, in 1996 my parents got me and my kid brother a Sega Saturn and a bunch of games. Virtual cop, daytona usa, virtual fighter 2, panzer dragoon zwei and..... Revolution X. Guess which one we played first? That said, the Aerosmith soundtrack sounded great on the saturn. The downside was it was short clips and they looped.
Can't believe they got away with calling that unlicensed Lethal Enforcers port "Lethal Weapon", since there's a movie series called that.
worse yet: another NES game with that name. Some copies were called Lethal Enforcers too, both names were used.
I really miss light gun games, it's just sad that they died out not on their own accord. Home light gun games went out with the demise of the CRT TV, and the Arcade cabinet ones, well, they died with the Arcades. So I honestly don't think that they ever really died out of popularity but instead were a victim of the changing times. As whenever you find one out in the wild somewhere, people are ALWAYS ready and willing to pump in a few quarters. As they kind of went full circle, first only being available in the Arcades, to being in your home, to again only in arcades or wherever you happen to find them. BUT I think we COULD be seeing somewhat of a resurgence of the light gun games, just in a slightly different, but still familiar form. With today's VR technology a lot of on rails shooters have come about and have seen a LOT of success bringing back that same light gun game excitement. Games such as Robo Recall, Space Pirate Trainer and Pistol Whip have seen pretty good popularity, even house of the dead style Zombie shooters like Arizona Sunshine, Death Horizon, Drop Dead Dual Strike and others. So I don't think "light gun" games and on rail shooters completely died out but just waited for the right time to come back swinging, or rather shooting...lol.
I remember playing Operation Wolf on my dads C64. We didn't have a light gun or mouse and we only ever got as far as the 2nd level.
Wow, you have just aided me solving a childhood mistery arcade cabinet! Now I know it was a Taito Space Gun. We occasionally gathered with a few classmates after elementary school classes were over in an old poorly maintained pub nearby. Sipping soft drinks and playing on this kind of cabinet. I don't think it ever was monochrome, but the monitor looked to me like a green phosphor type like our home PC equipped with simple CGA graphics at that time. Now I know that the cabinet was just either malfunctioning (red and blue colors missing) or someone replaced the original color monitor with a green mono one. It was somewhat harder to recognize things on the screen because of this. So in the end it seems someone just being cheap ass on repair and maintenance. :) I don't remember the game controller though. Not even how playable the game was with it.
The version of that game that I'm familiar with had a big red and blue set of raygun looking ones that where fixed to the cabnet. a button on the side for bombs or something if I can recall? We had one at Nickle World Arcade, and I too was like "oh, THAT game!"
Unfortunately I have no recollection of the controller.
I remember as a kid being really excited to find Beast Busters for my ST in a local games shop. I loved it so much in the arcade!
Then I got home and loaded it up.....
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Another great video btw!
I am one of the weird ones that likes Generation X. I loved it in the arcade because the guns were very similar to the T2 guns. so similar in fact they were the T2 guns. Generation X was sold as a conversion kit for the Terminator 2 arcade cabinets. I stupidly bought the Genesis game after getting a Menacer and guess what... it didn't work like T2. while that kills the play-ability for me, it didn't kill my love for the game. Its T2 with cool music and your gun shoots CDs!!! that's pretty cool and i cant imagine a game being any more 90's.
Lets also not forget the Pink justifier was only available via mail in offer.
Ahhh time crisis. Many evenings I spent playing the first one on ps1. I distinctly remember coming home after school, it was winter so it was darker than normal and it was too late to go outside, the glow of the CRT, low hum of the Ps2 (I had the ps1 copy but a ps2 to play it) it was bliss
Really enjoyed the video.loved operation wolf and Thunderbolt. couldnt wait to play them in our local arcade when they appeared.so loud and great eye popping graphics
Master System - Gangster Town was my favorite shooter
Sloshing a fishing rod in a dirty canal - Is that like hockey stick in a garbage can?
Ah The Justifier. Probably the coolest light gun ever made, and one of the reasons we have the ESRB today. Part of my collection is all the games that led to the American video game ratings we know today.
I always felt light gun games were never that great on any home console until we saw Point Blank and also Time Crisis land on PlayStation. They were close to perfection.
The not so humble Speccy triumphs again! Operation Wolf was stellar on the ZX Spectrum. It played superbly well, had plenty of enemies on screen and featured the big enemies. Overall markedly superior to the conversions on the other 8 and 16-bit micros.
Do a sequel. I just got Sindens and LOVE hearing about these games
Man, I forgot Space Gun in the arcades. Played that way too much
Operation wolf on nes was perhaps my worst ever nintendo 90s memory in my life, imagine being a kid, with a brand new nintendo, u only had smb and duck hunt for around a year then suddenly u get 2 new games and u were dreaming for a whole year about SMB2 or ZELDA or METROID and u get....OPERATION WOLF and TO THE EARTH....it was the saddest time of my life, from all the games, i was given these two stinkers, at least on the next time (a year later) i got me SMB 2 and 3 , snake's revenge, wrath of the black manta and dr mario and it was the best time ever.
I was the only kid in my neighbourhood who completed all four difficulty levels of the Master System version of "Operation: Wolf".
This may be nostalgia talking but I still think it's up there with the original 8-bit "Sonic the Hedgehog" and of course "Wonderboy: The Dragon's Trap" for one of the best Master System games out there. I still remember learning to get the grenade placed in just the right spot that you'd hit the general's hitbox but not hit his hostage, one-shotting him. Good times.
I actually really liked Space Gun on the ZX Spectrum. It was vastly better than the Master System version which was surprising considering the ZX Spectrum was all but dead at the time.
I've never played any of these games in the arcade. I did once watch someone playing T2: the Arcade Game. He had a stack of tokens and was feeding another one (or two?) in every 10-20 seconds or so. That's the one thing I've always disliked about any type of rail shooters, it's literally impossible to shoot everything without getting hit yourself.
I never had any consoles past the Atari era and never had any lightguns for any of my computers. In fact, the only lightgun I've ever used was the one attached to the Coleco Telstar Arcade, way back in the 70s, and all I got to do with that was shoot a moving block on the screen. And after a month or two, the gun didn't even work properly anymore. It would register a hit no matter where you pointed it, even if you covered the barrel.
"Less fun than wringing out your gran's pants" really belongs on a poster.
If the cyborgs on the Arcade version of Mechanized Attack were Poundland, I guess the ones on the NES were from the 33-cent store lol.
No Area 51? It might be the best rail shooter thats ever made
Is that Duke Nukem looking guy close to the screen actually what they based him on? Considering how many sprites they ripped off, I mean.
i actually remember playing the terminator 2 shooter on the gameboy…the many years later getting to play it on the actual arcade machine 🤩
Funnily enough, when I saw this title I thought 'Oh god, Operation Wolf on C64 was AWFUL'. It was one of the few times I was allowed to choose and buy a game at Toys R Us, and I bought it based on the cassette case art and graphics promised alone. I'd no idea of the style of game it was having never seen it in the arcade, and just remember trying to move the cross-hairs with my Quicksilver joystick was misery. Must be the shortest amount of time I ever went from buying a game to never loading it up again.
Some brilliant console versions of arcade rail shooters. House of the Dead 2 & Virtua Cop on Dreamcast.
I had Revolution X on the Genesis, and yeah it's no masterpiece, but it's far from unplayable, now the PC DOS version is trash that just would not run unless you had very specific hardware.
Remember. Music is the weapon.
these rail games are the reason why I hit the reload button after shooting two shots when playing COD, for example.
these rail games are the reason why I hit the reload button after shooting two shots when playing COD
I think teaching bystanders to get out of the way is a good thing. A similar game today would have all the bystanders standing in the way recording video on their phones.
I enjoyed this video massively. Though I grew up with the Master System and Mega Drive, I had no idea these dodgy arcade ports existed. I liked Safari Hunt just fine, and it came free with the console.
Oh and those concerned senate members and their hearings on videogame violence. I think the best thing they accomplished was to educate old rich white men to the fact that videogames were not solely intended for use by the 12 and under crowd.
I know Night Trap has nothing to do with this video, but I thought it was hilarious that most of the objections they had to that game seemed to be based on the mistaken idea that the object of the game was for the player to murder the early 90's jailbait. I may be wrong, but I thought the object was to stop the killer and save the 'innocent' young ladies.
You should do great fighting games on inappropriate systems as well as beat ‘em ups on inappropriate systems as well.
There was a wealth of FPS on the megaCD and 32X too
Hang on, did I just hear a reference to Wally’s Windmill 😂. You’re not a Yarmouth boy are ya?!
Seems like Duke Nukem did a gig as an enemy in the Spectrum version of Operation Wolf before he got famous...
Oh yeah! Revolution X! I've always been a big fan of Aerosmith, so I couldn't resist playing Revolution X. I'm sure I still have my PC CD-ROM copy sitting around here somewhere. It really isn't an enjoyable game without the Aerosmith tunes pumping through your speakers.
Guys, if you love OPERATION WOLF (and who the hell doesn’t) get yourselves an OCCULUS QUEST 2! There’s a game called Operation Wolf or something like that - it literally PUTS YOU IN THE GAME! It’s so hard to describe but, honestly, it’s pretty trippy and the game itself is awesome! Lolol trust me…. just get one….
I love Operation Wolf on PC, the MSDOS version has its own charm
O how I miss the arcades......Operation Wolf ate more than it’s fair share of my pocket money. Operation ThunderBolt kicked arse.
Good golly, I loved that T2 arcade game. Many a hard-earned quarter found its way into that machine.
Glad I never tried to emulate the experience at home.
OK. Time out. Operation Wolf on the NES is a highlight of my old school port experience.