I think he meant that no-one had heard of the film at the time the game was in development, but they had gone to see it afterwards. Though, even taking into account that they had to not only write the game itself in 8-bit assembly, but design and manufacture the physical consoles to run it on, I am suspicious that the timing of 1-year-after-film-came-out is just about right for concept-to-release, so wouldn't be that surprised that someone saw the film, thought it was rubbish, but still borrowed the concept to make an arcade game.
I'm reminded of the time I saw a reporter talking about GTA III while playing the game to demonstrate its depravity. He was using a baseball bat to murder an old lady and take her cash, saying this was disgusting. I looked at the screen and asked rhetorically why he was choosing to kill an old lady in a game where you can also choose to drive around town obeying all traffic laws,
Fore those who didn't grow up in the late 70's into the 80's it was a glorious time. Nothing better then a pocket full of quarters and going to the arcade with your friends.
Hear hear! Wood grain, Velours jumpers, half long hair and awesome tv shows like the 6 million dollar man, dukes of hazard, Columbo, Love boat, Grange Hill, Blakes7 of man…! I so remember watching these shows after a shower and good shrub sitting in our short shorts and tank top (my parents didn’t buy pajamas that’s too excessive (frugal) 😂) and we had some crisps and it was bliss! And the 80s were even better to me that the late 70s.
We paid 20c per game in Australia. With exchange rate probably only 15c USD. We used to get big cloth bags if you changed big notes into lots of coins.
@@horrido666 that’s ironic isn’t it?! I think what you get from an arcade that you don’t get at home is that social aspect and the fact that you’re just out.
I first played Death Race in the early 2000’s at Fisherman’s Warf in San Francisco. They had a plaque explaining the controversy that came from this game. It’s a fun game that didn’t appear to be that violent but if put into 1970’s perspective, perhaps it was.
It was. My parents FORBADE me to play it. There was one at the laundromat we used to go to. My mom was like, 'You can play those, but NOT THAT ONE!' I don't think mom would have thought highly of Double Dragon's intro (which even shocked me, at the time!), and certainly not Mortal Kombat. Amazing how fast a society deteriorates... 😑
@@Chordonblue Society has deteriorated because games like Mortal Kombat got big? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 You may wanna ask your doctor for stronger med's, the ones you have now clearly aren't working.
@@Chordonblue I mean,yeah that is exactly what you wrote in several comment's on the video so nothing else I can take from it is there 🤦♂️ This whole videogames cause violence because my parents told me so thing you got going on is just downright idiotic.
I love how, at 16:51, we're discussing an article about mowing down peds, right next to an article about how hinged leg casts speed recovery. Looks like someone didn't finish the job!
Death Race the game seems relatively harmless, but standards were different in those years, than those of today. The threshold of acceptance has definitely changed since the 1970's.
I remember playing Death Race on an emulator many years ago. Much like Chiller, I thought it was quaint and unremarkable, but I guess I can see how something like it would have been shocking to over-reactive parents at the time. The cabinet art is probably the most notable thing about it.
Not sure about the 'over-reactive' thing. My parents were well aware of the kinds of things it would likely lead to. Judging from what followed, they were right.
I remember watching the video of Huey Lewis' "Doing It All For My Baby" back in the 80's, and thinking that the Frankenstein's Monster bit at the beginning was campy and goofy. Fast forward some thirty years, and Amnesia: The Dark Descent is released. After playing a game about wandering around some dark, decrepit castle and witnessing graphic torture and dismembered corpses, I went back and watched the old Huey Lewis video. I was much more disturbed with the suggestions of violent death than I had been as a child. Realization of mortality? New data to fill in those blanks in my imagination? Being an adult, and thus feeling entitled to claim righteous indignation? Who knows. Makes me wonder if the people most offended with Exidy's Death Race had seen some gruesome accidents.
I'm not old enough to have played Death Race, but I'm old enough to have played Carmageddon. And I grew up to become not a murderer, but a bloody geek who works in a museum and enjoys watching all this kind of nerdy documentaries.
I also wonder if the car-manufacturers-lobby had any input into the dissing of the game. Keep in mind this is the same group that strongly resisted mandatory seatbelts in cars for the better part of a decade because it might tip off potential car-purchasers that car crashes could be dangerous for the occupants.
The Funny part is that there is one thing all controversal games have common is that they are POPULAR and people have FUN playing them. We ANYTHING (not just games) starts being fun and popular there is ALWAYS somebody with a stick up their rear try to say it is BAD or EVIL just to kill the Fun others are having just because they are INCAPABLE of having fun themselves and NOTHING is sacred lol rock an roll from the 50's to cartoon like Pokemon and Pinball EVERYTHING is EVIL if it is Fun and New
The negative publicity is the best thing that happened to Carmageddon. Without it the game wouldn't have sold nearly as well as it did. Over here a government official complained about the game, made the 8 o'clock news, and the following day the pre-orders for the game came rolling in at computer stores across the country. A game which I would describe as "okay at best".
I remember this game showing up at my local pinball palace, Pizza Playland, when it first came out. I was pretty young (long before driving age) but we enjoyed playing this game. At the time, I always thought those "pedestrians" looked like the Creature from the Black Lagoon and, basically, we were just running over monsters. Never made me want to go out in my dad's '69 Plymouth LandYacht and run over the local peds. It was probably more dangerous when Pole Position II came out right when I was getting my license and I wanted to take curves in my suburban neighborhood fishbowl at highly excessive speeds.
Used to play Carmageddon on the POC, there was a hack to chage the zombies into humans, of course I applied the hack and no I have never run over anyone RL!
The UK version was 18 rated and at least originally shipped with zombies and green blood. I'm sure I remember needing to at least unlock the blood and human pedestrians. I got it for Xmas 97 I believe. Maybe 98.
Hey me (6:06, 8:21, 8:32) surprised you could fit some of my clips considering my editing style but glad I could make an appearance! Been watching your stuff for a good while, keep up the good work!
I had a ver strange occurrence playing this arcade game in the early 1980’s. I played several times without incident, and on the 3rd or 4th try suddenly I couldn’t lose. I set a high score and the game went on for hours. I have played video games all my life and have never had such a sublime experience. It just went on and on -I had no skills but it was like I could not lose.
Playing a "violent" game does not mean you are participating in actual violence should be the main argument? If nobody in the real world gets hurt (apart from their feelings) it's not a real issue. Arguably some books that will put you in the head of a violent person could be considered far more dangerous, because they are "taking over your thoughts". But the really scary thing most of the time, are the mechanics going on behind the scene; why certain influential people go out of their way to not have you participate in certain activities, not let you have access to certain things, not let you be etc... and that is still very much going on of course.
I watched Unsolved Mysteries yesterday. Now, I can't help myself from thinking how I might look presenting videos in a foggy soundstage, while wearing a tan trenchcoat. - Like, it's become an overwhelming, all encompassing obsession for me.
I think no game should be forbidden. No work of fiction in general, provided no one was hurt or exploited in it's production. But I think everyone has the right to express aversion to works they find immoral. After playing Manhunt 2, I can perfectly understand why people find it disgusting. I do too despite finding it worthy of being played.
I remember a game in the late 1970s called Desert Patrol. Your job was to save paratroopers as they fell from the top of the screen using a machine gun to shoot bad guys. You could make this game evil by shooting at the paratroopers instead of the bad guys. The screams from the paratroopers after you shot their parachute was hilarious.
Hmm, sounds like Paratrooper (1984) where you man a flak gun post and you *have* to shoot down paratroopers, their helicopters and an occasional bomber plane in order to avoid being blown to bits.
@@LarixusSnydes - It isn't. Desert Patrol was an arcade game in the late 70s. Your controller was a machine gun (rapid-fire light gun). It hasn't been emulated yet, which is a shame.
@@Zoyx Don't get me wrong, I meant no disrespect. I was not referring to the proper game you were playing, but the alternate "mode" where you attack the paratroopers instead of the actual foes, which reminded me of the later, more complex game, Paratrooper where the paratroopers *are* the foes.
I was lucky enough to grow up with this game (late 1970's into the mid 1980's) at our local pizza shoppe, Sammy's Pizza in Superior, Wisconsin. I played this game many, many times. It was still around when newer, much better games like Super Pac Man and Congo Bongo were released. I'm pretty sure less than 1500 were ever produced, and many of those being recalled after the negative press.
I remember how amazed I was playing Jackal on NES, that was the first game I ever saw that let you run over people with a car, in any kind of realistic context. A proud tradition carried on that I never knew had a backstory.
When making a game for adults, it’s up to the adults to make the decision if a game is for them or not. This is NOT a decision game developers and console manufacturers should be able to make for us adults instead...
how do you pronounce the difference between the words "Derby" and "Darby"? i was passively listening & had to watch for a few minutes wondering "Why are we destroying Darby"? kinda messed with me because I've played "Darby the Dragon"
Censorship is never any good! In a free well thinking society people can seek what to consume and what not. I’m wholehearted against any form for censorship. Opinions are just opinions, ideas are just ideas. Only were certain ideas come into practice a crime is committed. And by censoring these ideas they never prevented such sentiments, I’d anything those sentiments became more extreme when censored. So censorship is bad, it’s always a slippery slope.
@@AskenOrbital I think most people are sensible and those who aren’t, aren’t hindered by laws or censorship. And let’s be honest our politicians are the dumbest idiots, and power hungry sociopaths. So having them dictate our speech and ideas is far worse.
Fast forward 40+ years, and I'm getting adverts for games about voluptuous, scantily-clad young women who shoot people in the head with a sniper rifle, depicting the impact in great detail and in slow motion. I'm trying to imagine how many boxes of moral panic that one ticks.
Crap. I miss my pac man machine. It's still in storage. (still has the original patina from 1980 - it was on location in a bar in Sausalito until I acquired it). It'll rise again as soon as I pick a new basecamp since I'm mobile. *(now the companion DK machine - that was restored to museum quality via skilled folk in Silicon Valley - it's also in the same storage (huge shout-out to 'Frank' who worked for Nvidia who did a hell of a lot of bondo- repainting and a complete tear-down and still can't park a car in his 2 garages because they're filled with arcade machines and parts (As well as the rest of the KLOV / CAX crew)
I was a little too young to experience the controversy over this game firsthand- I was 3 years old when it was first released!- but even when I started playing arcade games myself a few years later I quickly heard about it. I don't remember exactly when I saw a Death Race cabinet in the wild, but I think it was the early 80s, and I remember being very disappointed when I finally played it. After all the hype over its horrific violence, that was it?
I never played this game as a kid, although I do remember seeing it at my local arcade! Until now I was unaware of the controversy surrounding it. This sort of thing would have been a non-issue for my parents. They taught me to have clear understanding of fantasy Vs. Reality from a young age. I think that is the REAL problem. MOST Parents not knowing how to talk to their kids about such things. They raise a stink about stuff like this in the name of protecting their kids, instead of teaching their kids that it's all just make-believe!
Most parents today have less capacity to distinguish between fiction and reality than children do naturally. Children know quite well that they have absolutely no power to do practically anything, and that they're just manipulating images on a screen with a controller. Parents are quite invested in images themselves, and wouldn't dare question them lest all kinds of things in their life start to fall apart. Modernity is pretty overwhelming so most people resort to just whatever intuitive feeling arises based on things they see and hear, they decide that must be accurate and question no further.
@@DustinRodriguez1_0 You'll find "most parents" is completely wrong. It's just an obnoxiously loud, annoying minority of parents trying to kill everyone else's fun, same as it always has been.
I bet those parents seriously believe that their babies are born good but get tainted by the World as the children mature. I also bet that those parents forgot how they acted when they themselves were infants.
I played Chiller in the arcade! It really stood out with its gore more than anything else, but was definitely memorable. All of Exidy's shooter games had a distinctive look and sound. Since we now have emulators and can play for free, i now realize that there was a bit more to them strategy-wise than was clear after just playing them a few times in the arcade.
Interesting fact regarding censorship: Way back in the early 1900's tabletop wargames were blamed for boys being violent. If guys enjoy something, it will get blamed for being "indecent" or some such rubbish.
The same thing happened with comic books in the 1940's, people just need to realize that a lot of humans are just inherently violent and quit blaming media.
Back in the 80's Dungeons & Dragons was accused of promoting devil worship and sadism. It was so incredibly dangerous... Now I have to admit that I had a friend who got pulled to far into the fantasy world. It got so bad he refused to admit that it was a fantasy and claimed it was the real world and this world we live in was just a fiction of his imagination... But hey, I have a feeling that if it hadn't been a role playing game he would have fond something else to loose himself in. He could just as easily have become a religious nutcase.
I've actually played Speed Race and Destruction Derby. Didn't know how old they were though. Still wish I could get a close up glimpse of an old Space War game though.
It's what you'd expect from vector graphics (no pixels) with 2 objects circling each other. Trouble was that if you flew off screen, there was a really good chance you couldn't find your ship until it ended and you put in another quarter. A couple of years later they released an improved version with sprites, a new gameplay element and they fixed the whole flying off screen issue.
One problem with chiller is that at the time there were tortured bodies being found in South America. Including a man with a head crushed on a press like in the game. At least it was insensitive.
Very well put together content had me glued to my tv liked the way also how you showed each arcade I never even seen them and in 51 yrs old . Enjoyed this a lot thanks .
I find it amusing that you point out that Death Race 2000 featured Sylvester Stallone... but didn't mention that it _starred_ David Carradine... "Bill" from the movies "Kill Bill" volume 1 and 2.
@@orderofmagnitude-TPATP i am a guardian reader. rather left wing and accommodating of woke-ery, and thus loathe censorship. i always think of daily mail readers as being the censorship fans. i really think that all censorship is always wrong, and very often evil. nothing should be censored. of course things are forbidden by legislation, things that are illegal- kid porn for instance. but that isn't censorship to my way of thinking. and i wondered why i no longer see CRTs in skips, this bugger must have 'em all. nowadays i have to buy flyback transformers. pah!
@@orderofmagnitude-TPATP i suppose i fell in the trap of thinking that people i like, and am interested in and watch must surely think like i do. logically why should a bloke i watch simply because he has liked this sort of stuff for nearly as long as i have be like me? i suppose mainly i find it hard to think a bloke who used a long video to describe the appearance and behaviour of a long forgotten screen saver can be bad?
Anyone else confused as to why he’s repeatedly pressing the button playing centipede? It has the most amazing and satisfying auto fire of any game ❤️❤️❤️
You're absolutely right! I have heard of Atari! Edit: I wasn't born when this game made it's mark but I was 11 or 12 when Mortal Combat became enemy #1. My mom forbid me to play it so of course I played it whenever humanly possible. I'd stand there in line at the bowling alley with my quarters on the machine waiting for my 2 minutes of play time or while spending the night at my buddies house we'd stay up all night gaming and MK was always in rotation. Although at my friend's house we had to play the bloodless version lol
Exidy Rises From The Ashes With Their New Video Game "Murder Turd". The objective is to run around on the screen stomping on evasive cute turd emojis. "Nothing is more relaxing than the sound a turd makes when you stomp on it." says Exidy CEO Marty "farty" McFartison. The new game also promotes "environmental activism" says McFartison. When the player stomps the turd, an oxygen generating flower grows in it's place. Just kidding...
I played this when I was 6. We all thought it was hilarious. The people screamed when you ran them over! Can't believe that wasn't shown or mentioned in the video. I also remember the controversy. We thought that was hilarious, too. But I love this era between Pong and Space Invaders. So many interesting but largely forgotten games.
Even though I understand censorship in concept, I have yet to see it done properly in (modern) games made for teens and adults. Specifically with games for adults (Asia 17+, US 17+, and EU 18+). why is swearing censored? Why are violence, blood, and gore censored? Why is nudity censored? It couldn’t make less sense. And with games for teens too (Asia 12+, US 10/13+ (?), and EU 12+) why are non-swear words censored? (heck, fudge, gosh, etc... Disney and Nickelodeon shows are filled with it) Why are short clothes censored? (if you have any young family members like sisters or nieces, you know they were “revealing” clothes at age 5. Also if you have any that does things in the entertainment industry, even at an amateur level, like singing, dancing, or athletic sports, you know how revealing their clothes can be. So you’re disallowing teenagers to see clothes in games similar to what they wear themselves casually when performing a singing or dance routine?)
It's pretty ironic that Exidy made a game that's very tame by our standards that's remembered for its incredible controversy then made a game that's so screwed up that even people today might have a point if they wanted it banned but it's all but lost to history. Honestly says a lot about both intent and marketing. To explain the point I'm making there, imagine if Mortal Kombat was a game where there's no fighting, no competition, and instead of being two characters on equal footing you're just doing fatalities on random scared citizens and that's the whole game, it would have been seen as too distasteful for arcade owners and gamers would have likely said it was "trying too hard" to be controversial and it likely would not have been nearly as successful
Yeah, assault rifles are legal here if you’re able to pay a 200 dollar tax stamp and afford the high five figure asking price. Definitely a problem, amirite? All those rich people with assault rifles while poor people don’t have access to them.
Since you mentioned censorship of video games, you should talk about that one time when video games (or at least arcade games) were blanket-banned in the Philippines during the early 80s by the Marcos regime, reportedly due to parenting groups complaining that their kids were too engrossed on Pac-Man rather than their studies on the same token as the dictator banning _Voltes V_ and other similarly violent anime series. Ironically enough, his son Bongbong Marcos would upload a vlog decades later where he reminisced about the *very same medium his father outlawed* and was coached by what appears to be his grandkids or nephews into playing _Mobile Legends._
Most people find it laughable that anyone would get upset over the crude graphics in these early games. I find it laughable for a different reason: All of the outrage was entirely based on the descriptions of the games. What does Death Race actually show? A car running over stick figures. Maybe they're monsters and you're saving the world by running them over. Is the game still as objectionable with that plot? How about Custer's Revenge? Does the actual game show any bondage or have any on screen indication that the sex isn't consensual? What if the game was called Forbidden Love and the plot was that a cowboy and a Native American woman had fallen in love, but her tribe was trying to keep them apart? It goes from being a misogynistic nightmare to a story about love overcoming racial, and ethnic boundaries.
Angry parents wanting to ban a game has always been the best marketing a game could ever recieve. It always happens every now and then. Whenever I hear of a game getting banned or censored I go out of my way to obtain it even if I wouldn't have any interest in it otherwise.
Or changing the ninja turtles to heros because the uk government thought the mere mention of ninjas would have kids all over our great nation murdering each other with shuriken's or something.
In addition to being historically interesting Death Race is a fun little game. Last I knew they had a working machine at Funspot in Laconia, New Hampshire here in the US. I've played that one a number of times. The "screams" of the gremlins are pretty amusing, too.
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Why do you keep putting an A in dErby?
You shave your balls with this?
Or just go buy a Philips shaver and get much better performance 😊
Sub-Human TRASH!!!!!!!!!!!!! GET OF TH-cam YOU GARBAGE PEDDLER!
"We've definitely never heard of that movie and it STINKS" is a pretty funny way to try and avoid a lawsuit from Roger Corman.
This defense is otherwise known as "but that was in another country, and besides, the wench is dead" (from The Jew of Malta).
my thought was how do you know something stinks if your not aware of its existence
@@jonny_codphilo7809 they were lying their asses off. Death Race 2000 wasn't a huge hit but people damn well knew about it lol
I think he meant that no-one had heard of the film at the time the game was in development, but they had gone to see it afterwards.
Though, even taking into account that they had to not only write the game itself in 8-bit assembly, but design and manufacture the physical consoles to run it on, I am suspicious that the timing of 1-year-after-film-came-out is just about right for concept-to-release, so wouldn't be that surprised that someone saw the film, thought it was rubbish, but still borrowed the concept to make an arcade game.
It stinks! 👌
I'm reminded of the time I saw a reporter talking about GTA III while playing the game to demonstrate its depravity. He was using a baseball bat to murder an old lady and take her cash, saying this was disgusting.
I looked at the screen and asked rhetorically why he was choosing to kill an old lady in a game where you can also choose to drive around town obeying all traffic laws,
Fore those who didn't grow up in the late 70's into the 80's it was a glorious time. Nothing better then a pocket full of quarters and going to the arcade with your friends.
Hear hear! Wood grain, Velours jumpers, half long hair and awesome tv shows like the 6 million dollar man, dukes of hazard, Columbo, Love boat, Grange Hill, Blakes7 of man…!
I so remember watching these shows after a shower and good shrub sitting in our short shorts and tank top (my parents didn’t buy pajamas that’s too excessive (frugal) 😂) and we had some crisps and it was bliss!
And the 80s were even better to me that the late 70s.
We paid 20c per game in Australia. With exchange rate probably only 15c USD. We used to get big cloth bags if you changed big notes into lots of coins.
I remember spending time in the arcades, wishing they had games you could play at home this good. Now that they do, I want the arcade back.
My first job was basically just to pay for my time in the arcade. This was the 90s.
@@horrido666 that’s ironic isn’t it?!
I think what you get from an arcade that you don’t get at home is that social aspect and the fact that you’re just out.
There is truly nothing worse than seeing a good CRT being tossed out.
The only censor is sales! It was primarily a David Carradine flick!
I first played Death Race in the early 2000’s at Fisherman’s Warf in San Francisco. They had a plaque explaining the controversy that came from this game. It’s a fun game that didn’t appear to be that violent but if put into 1970’s perspective, perhaps it was.
It was. My parents FORBADE me to play it. There was one at the laundromat we used to go to. My mom was like, 'You can play those, but NOT THAT ONE!' I don't think mom would have thought highly of Double Dragon's intro (which even shocked me, at the time!), and certainly not Mortal Kombat. Amazing how fast a society deteriorates... 😑
You sick bastard
@@Chordonblue Society has deteriorated because games like Mortal Kombat got big? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 You may wanna ask your doctor for stronger med's, the ones you have now clearly aren't working.
@@FMK1317 Sorry if that's what you got out of what I wrote. Video games, like so many other entertainments, are an indicator, not the source or cause.
@@Chordonblue I mean,yeah that is exactly what you wrote in several comment's on the video so nothing else I can take from it is there 🤦♂️
This whole videogames cause violence because my parents told me so thing you got going on is just downright idiotic.
I love how, at 16:51, we're discussing an article about mowing down peds, right next to an article about how hinged leg casts speed recovery. Looks like someone didn't finish the job!
Death Race the game seems relatively harmless, but standards were different in those years, than those of today. The threshold of acceptance has definitely changed since the 1970's.
I saw a news report about the 'infamous' Death Race in the day. I practically drooled to play it.
I remember playing Death Race on an emulator many years ago. Much like Chiller, I thought it was quaint and unremarkable, but I guess I can see how something like it would have been shocking to over-reactive parents at the time. The cabinet art is probably the most notable thing about it.
Not sure about the 'over-reactive' thing. My parents were well aware of the kinds of things it would likely lead to. Judging from what followed, they were right.
I remember watching the video of Huey Lewis' "Doing It All For My Baby" back in the 80's, and thinking that the Frankenstein's Monster bit at the beginning was campy and goofy. Fast forward some thirty years, and Amnesia: The Dark Descent is released. After playing a game about wandering around some dark, decrepit castle and witnessing graphic torture and dismembered corpses, I went back and watched the old Huey Lewis video. I was much more disturbed with the suggestions of violent death than I had been as a child. Realization of mortality? New data to fill in those blanks in my imagination? Being an adult, and thus feeling entitled to claim righteous indignation? Who knows. Makes me wonder if the people most offended with Exidy's Death Race had seen some gruesome accidents.
No nintendo sheriff and no midway mortal kombat mentioned,that’s pretty sad.
13:09 In the first moment I thought that's the young David Braben.
I'm not old enough to have played Death Race, but I'm old enough to have played Carmageddon. And I grew up to become not a murderer, but a bloody geek who works in a museum and enjoys watching all this kind of nerdy documentaries.
I also wonder if the car-manufacturers-lobby had any input into the dissing of the game. Keep in mind this is the same group that strongly resisted mandatory seatbelts in cars for the better part of a decade because it might tip off potential car-purchasers that car crashes could be dangerous for the occupants.
The Funny part is that there is one thing all controversal games have common is that they are POPULAR and people have FUN playing them. We ANYTHING (not just games) starts being fun and popular there is ALWAYS somebody with a stick up their rear try to say it is BAD or EVIL just to kill the Fun others are having just because they are INCAPABLE of having fun themselves and NOTHING is sacred lol rock an roll from the 50's to cartoon like Pokemon and Pinball EVERYTHING is EVIL if it is Fun and New
So... This is the daddy of Carmageddon ☝️😊
Nah. Carmageddon was at least in part inspired by Death Race 2000, the starting car is pretty decent clone of Frankenstein's car.
When Carmageddon was released, it was also banned in many countries.
The negative publicity is the best thing that happened to Carmageddon. Without it the game wouldn't have sold nearly as well as it did. Over here a government official complained about the game, made the 8 o'clock news, and the following day the pre-orders for the game came rolling in at computer stores across the country. A game which I would describe as "okay at best".
I remember this game showing up at my local pinball palace, Pizza Playland, when it first came out. I was pretty young (long before driving age) but we enjoyed playing this game. At the time, I always thought those "pedestrians" looked like the Creature from the Black Lagoon and, basically, we were just running over monsters. Never made me want to go out in my dad's '69 Plymouth LandYacht and run over the local peds. It was probably more dangerous when Pole Position II came out right when I was getting my license and I wanted to take curves in my suburban neighborhood fishbowl at highly excessive speeds.
They saw GTA V coming already back then, and tried to stop it!
Many years later when Carmageddon got released in Germany, they had to change the people into zombies and change the blood color to green. 😅
Used to play Carmageddon on the POC, there was a hack to chage the zombies into humans, of course I applied the hack and no I have never run over anyone RL!
In Germany people are *still* requiired to be zombies and blood is still mandated as green. Even Call of Duty has a 'censored' version for Germany.
The UK version was 18 rated and at least originally shipped with zombies and green blood. I'm sure I remember needing to at least unlock the blood and human pedestrians. I got it for Xmas 97 I believe. Maybe 98.
Hey me (6:06, 8:21, 8:32) surprised you could fit some of my clips considering my editing style but glad I could make an appearance! Been watching your stuff for a good while, keep up the good work!
Deathrace was just Carmageddon in early access. Took them 20+ years to sort out the graphics, but the shitty controls persisted.
People who get uppity about violence in video games: "ThINk oF tHe cHiLdrEn!"
the art on the death race cab is beautiful
Destruction Darby, he's that skateboarding wrestler with the face paint in AEW, right? 😂😅
I had a ver strange occurrence playing this arcade game in the early 1980’s. I played several times without incident, and on the 3rd or 4th try suddenly I couldn’t lose. I set a high score and the game went on for hours. I have played video games all my life and have never had such a sublime experience. It just went on and on -I had no skills but it was like I could not lose.
Not possible, as it had a timer that when it hit 0 it ended. Almost all the games then ran on timers with no (or only a single) extension.
@@0311Mushroom bro you’re a moron if you believe that bs
Playing a "violent" game does not mean you are participating in actual violence should be the main argument? If nobody in the real world gets hurt (apart from their feelings) it's not a real issue. Arguably some books that will put you in the head of a violent person could be considered far more dangerous, because they are "taking over your thoughts".
But the really scary thing most of the time, are the mechanics going on behind the scene; why certain influential people go out of their way to not have you participate in certain activities, not let you have access to certain things, not let you be etc... and that is still very much going on of course.
I watched Unsolved Mysteries yesterday.
Now, I can't help myself from thinking how I might look presenting videos in a foggy soundstage, while wearing a tan trenchcoat.
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Like, it's become an overwhelming, all encompassing obsession for me.
I think no game should be forbidden. No work of fiction in general, provided no one was hurt or exploited in it's production. But I think everyone has the right to express aversion to works they find immoral.
After playing Manhunt 2, I can perfectly understand why people find it disgusting. I do too despite finding it worthy of being played.
Violent video games turn children into violent adults. They serve no positive benefit and should be banned.
Well, that was a sponsor I never expected 😂
Rest easy knowing Nostalgia Nerd has a well kept man garden 💥
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you don't know, it's just the script the hedges gave him, and a big paycheck
you wish you know tho
I remember a game in the late 1970s called Desert Patrol. Your job was to save paratroopers as they fell from the top of the screen using a machine gun to shoot bad guys. You could make this game evil by shooting at the paratroopers instead of the bad guys. The screams from the paratroopers after you shot their parachute was hilarious.
Hmm, sounds like Paratrooper (1984) where you man a flak gun post and you *have* to shoot down paratroopers, their helicopters and an occasional bomber plane in order to avoid being blown to bits.
@@LarixusSnydes - It isn't. Desert Patrol was an arcade game in the late 70s. Your controller was a machine gun (rapid-fire light gun). It hasn't been emulated yet, which is a shame.
@@LarixusSnydes - "Desert Patrol © 1977 Project Support Engineering.
One of 3 shooting-type gun games produced by PSE using similar hardware.
Desert Patrol is a timer-based, single-player game. Players shoot at various aircraft targets flying on screen from left to right or right to left with a mounted machine gun on the control panel. The objective is to successfully shoot down various aircraft targets consisting of planes, jets, and a helicopter within an allotted amount of time. The time setting is operator adjustable with a pot for speeding up or slowing down of how fast the time counts down to zero.
If an aircraft is successfully hit, a figure then appears on the screen as a parachuting pilot. Players have to avoid hitting the pilot or else points are deducted from the point total and also the ability to shoot a gun is disabled for a few seconds. This is the penalty for shooting down a parachuting pilot.
If a player shoots down the parachuting pilot, the parachute disappears and the pilot then immediately plummets to the ground at a fast rate. When that happens, a scream sound effect is played as the pilot plummets to the ground. The machine gun is then disabled for a few seconds as a form of a penalty for shooting at the parachuting pilot."
@@Zoyx Don't get me wrong, I meant no disrespect. I was not referring to the proper game you were playing, but the alternate "mode" where you attack the paratroopers instead of the actual foes, which reminded me of the later, more complex game, Paratrooper where the paratroopers *are* the foes.
I was lucky enough to grow up with this game (late 1970's into the mid 1980's) at our local pizza shoppe, Sammy's Pizza in Superior, Wisconsin. I played this game many, many times. It was still around when newer, much better games like Super Pac Man and Congo Bongo were released. I'm pretty sure less than 1500 were ever produced, and many of those being recalled after the negative press.
1:24 That game's designer said the intercourse was fully consensual.
I remember how amazed I was playing Jackal on NES, that was the first game I ever saw that let you run over people with a car, in any kind of realistic context. A proud tradition carried on that I never knew had a backstory.
When making a game for adults, it’s up to the adults to make the decision if a game is for them or not.
This is NOT a decision game developers and console manufacturers should be able to make for us adults instead...
how do you pronounce the difference between the words "Derby" and "Darby"?
i was passively listening & had to watch for a few minutes wondering "Why are we destroying Darby"?
kinda messed with me because I've played "Darby the Dragon"
I used to play Death Race at the bowling ally. Nobody else seems to remember it now, so it wasn't a fever dream.
Censorship is never any good! In a free well thinking society people can seek what to consume and what not. I’m wholehearted against any form for censorship. Opinions are just opinions, ideas are just ideas. Only were certain ideas come into practice a crime is committed. And by censoring these ideas they never prevented such sentiments, I’d anything those sentiments became more extreme when censored. So censorship is bad, it’s always a slippery slope.
@@AskenOrbital I think most people are sensible and those who aren’t, aren’t hindered by laws or censorship.
And let’s be honest our politicians are the dumbest idiots, and power hungry sociopaths. So having them dictate our speech and ideas is far worse.
Fast forward 40+ years, and I'm getting adverts for games about voluptuous, scantily-clad young women who shoot people in the head with a sniper rifle, depicting the impact in great detail and in slow motion. I'm trying to imagine how many boxes of moral panic that one ticks.
Crap. I miss my pac man machine. It's still in storage. (still has the original patina from 1980 - it was on location in a bar in Sausalito until I acquired it). It'll rise again as soon as I pick a new basecamp since I'm mobile. *(now the companion DK machine - that was restored to museum quality via skilled folk in Silicon Valley - it's also in the same storage (huge shout-out to 'Frank' who worked for Nvidia who did a hell of a lot of bondo- repainting and a complete tear-down and still can't park a car in his 2 garages because they're filled with arcade machines and parts (As well as the rest of the KLOV / CAX crew)
Keep the preservation
Emulation is one thing but i thoroughly salute people like you who spend vasts amounts keeping these things alive and original.
5:08 Somewhere LGR is drooling
I was a little too young to experience the controversy over this game firsthand- I was 3 years old when it was first released!- but even when I started playing arcade games myself a few years later I quickly heard about it. I don't remember exactly when I saw a Death Race cabinet in the wild, but I think it was the early 80s, and I remember being very disappointed when I finally played it. After all the hype over its horrific violence, that was it?
14:34 I never thought that a newspaper from my little corner of Indiana would be referenced in a video about video game violence. LOL
I never played this game as a kid, although I do remember seeing it at my local arcade! Until now I was unaware of the controversy surrounding it. This sort of thing would have been a non-issue for my parents. They taught me to have clear understanding of fantasy Vs. Reality from a young age. I think that is the REAL problem. MOST Parents not knowing how to talk to their kids about such things. They raise a stink about stuff like this in the name of protecting their kids, instead of teaching their kids that it's all just make-believe!
Most parents today have less capacity to distinguish between fiction and reality than children do naturally. Children know quite well that they have absolutely no power to do practically anything, and that they're just manipulating images on a screen with a controller. Parents are quite invested in images themselves, and wouldn't dare question them lest all kinds of things in their life start to fall apart. Modernity is pretty overwhelming so most people resort to just whatever intuitive feeling arises based on things they see and hear, they decide that must be accurate and question no further.
@@DustinRodriguez1_0 You'll find "most parents" is completely wrong. It's just an obnoxiously loud, annoying minority of parents trying to kill everyone else's fun, same as it always has been.
I bet those parents seriously believe that their babies are born good but get tainted by the World as the children mature.
I also bet that those parents forgot how they acted when they themselves were infants.
I played Chiller in the arcade! It really stood out with its gore more than anything else, but was definitely memorable.
All of Exidy's shooter games had a distinctive look and sound. Since we now have emulators and can play for free, i now realize that there was a bit more to them strategy-wise than was clear after just playing them a few times in the arcade.
In some ways Censorship has increased since these times.
Interesting fact regarding censorship: Way back in the early 1900's tabletop wargames were blamed for boys being violent. If guys enjoy something, it will get blamed for being "indecent" or some such rubbish.
Man, imagine if they could see into the future and saw Warhammer 40k, eh?
@@TeamBelmont91 OMG LOL
The same thing happened with comic books in the 1940's, people just need to realize that a lot of humans are just inherently violent and quit blaming media.
Back in the 80's Dungeons & Dragons was accused of promoting devil worship and sadism. It was so incredibly dangerous...
Now I have to admit that I had a friend who got pulled to far into the fantasy world. It got so bad he refused to admit that it was a fantasy and claimed it was the real world and this world we live in was just a fiction of his imagination... But hey, I have a feeling that if it hadn't been a role playing game he would have fond something else to loose himself in. He could just as easily have become a religious nutcase.
Man, they would've shit a brick with GTA 🤣
I've actually played Speed Race and Destruction Derby. Didn't know how old they were though.
Still wish I could get a close up glimpse of an old Space War game though.
It's what you'd expect from vector graphics (no pixels) with 2 objects circling each other. Trouble was that if you flew off screen, there was a really good chance you couldn't find your ship until it ended and you put in another quarter. A couple of years later they released an improved version with sprites, a new gameplay element and they fixed the whole flying off screen issue.
One problem with chiller is that at the time there were tortured bodies being found in South America. Including a man with a head crushed on a press like in the game. At least it was insensitive.
Death Race 2000 is more of a David Caradine flic. He's in the lead role while Stallone is 1st supporting actor.
And was almost unknown as that was before Rocky.
Very well put together content had me glued to my tv liked the way also how you showed each arcade I never even seen them and in 51 yrs old . Enjoyed this a lot thanks .
I can confirm I played Chiller at Funspot in Weirs Beach, New Hampshire not too long ago
Jack Thompson would be swooning over this!
I find it amusing that you point out that Death Race 2000 featured Sylvester Stallone... but didn't mention that it _starred_ David Carradine... "Bill" from the movies "Kill Bill" volume 1 and 2.
because no one cares about his fake kungfuing butt anymore
I got pretty choked up when I heard he died.
I'd wager that vastly more viewers are familiar with Sylvester Stallone.
0.58 "of course censorship, as a concept makes sense!"
are you out of your mind? censorship makes sense. i can't believe you wrote that.
Bless Pete is a bit on the woke lefty scale.... not extreme but entertains such concepts.
@@orderofmagnitude-TPATP i am a guardian reader. rather left wing and accommodating of woke-ery, and thus loathe censorship. i always think of daily mail readers as being the censorship fans.
i really think that all censorship is always wrong, and very often evil. nothing should be censored. of course things are forbidden by legislation, things that are illegal- kid porn for instance. but that isn't censorship to my way of thinking.
and i wondered why i no longer see CRTs in skips, this bugger must have 'em all. nowadays i have to buy flyback transformers. pah!
@@KarldorisLambley definitely
@@orderofmagnitude-TPATP i suppose i fell in the trap of thinking that people i like, and am interested in and watch must surely think like i do. logically why should a bloke i watch simply because he has liked this sort of stuff for nearly as long as i have be like me?
i suppose mainly i find it hard to think a bloke who used a long video to describe the appearance and behaviour of a long forgotten screen saver can be bad?
Fantastic seeing you get a new video out in your wheelhouse. Thanks.
Anyone else confused as to why he’s repeatedly pressing the button playing centipede? It has the most amazing and satisfying auto fire of any game ❤️❤️❤️
Terence Trent D'Arby approves of this video.
So Does Darby the Dragon
I've definitely thought about shooting rocket launchers at pedestrians after 10 hours of GTA
You're absolutely right! I have heard of Atari!
Edit: I wasn't born when this game made it's mark but I was 11 or 12 when Mortal Combat became enemy #1. My mom forbid me to play it so of course I played it whenever humanly possible. I'd stand there in line at the bowling alley with my quarters on the machine waiting for my 2 minutes of play time or while spending the night at my buddies house we'd stay up all night gaming and MK was always in rotation. Although at my friend's house we had to play the bloodless version lol
lol dude said "censorship is great!" derp
Exidy Rises From The Ashes With Their New Video Game "Murder Turd".
The objective is to run around on the screen stomping on evasive cute turd emojis. "Nothing is more relaxing than the sound a turd makes when you stomp on it." says Exidy CEO Marty "farty" McFartison. The new game also promotes "environmental activism" says McFartison. When the player stomps the turd, an oxygen generating flower grows in it's place.
Just kidding...
Death Race 2000 was a great movie, F the arcade maker.
I played this when I was 6. We all thought it was hilarious. The people screamed when you ran them over! Can't believe that wasn't shown or mentioned in the video. I also remember the controversy. We thought that was hilarious, too. But I love this era between Pong and Space Invaders. So many interesting but largely forgotten games.
Great topic and video!
No to gaming censorship, But I probably would ban like total rip offs which require money or wait a week to play.
My old arcade in Australia in the early 80s had all these games, this brought a tear to my eye. Good job.
The original Death Race 2000 is a classic, the new ones are trash though
Even though I understand censorship in concept, I have yet to see it done properly in (modern) games made for teens and adults.
Specifically with games for adults (Asia 17+, US 17+, and EU 18+). why is swearing censored? Why are violence, blood, and gore censored? Why is nudity censored? It couldn’t make less sense.
And with games for teens too (Asia 12+, US 10/13+ (?), and EU 12+) why are non-swear words censored? (heck, fudge, gosh, etc... Disney and Nickelodeon shows are filled with it) Why are short clothes censored? (if you have any young family members like sisters or nieces, you know they were “revealing” clothes at age 5. Also if you have any that does things in the entertainment industry, even at an amateur level, like singing, dancing, or athletic sports, you know how revealing their clothes can be. So you’re disallowing teenagers to see clothes in games similar to what they wear themselves casually when performing a singing or dance routine?)
Crikey. And I'd not thought of the connection with the Exidy Sorcerer computer. Love that CRT arcade machine goodness.
It's pretty ironic that Exidy made a game that's very tame by our standards that's remembered for its incredible controversy then made a game that's so screwed up that even people today might have a point if they wanted it banned but it's all but lost to history. Honestly says a lot about both intent and marketing.
To explain the point I'm making there, imagine if Mortal Kombat was a game where there's no fighting, no competition, and instead of being two characters on equal footing you're just doing fatalities on random scared citizens and that's the whole game, it would have been seen as too distasteful for arcade owners and gamers would have likely said it was "trying too hard" to be controversial and it likely would not have been nearly as successful
LOL it wasn't a Stallone flick, it was a Carradine flick. Have you even seen it?
Death Race walked so Carmageddon could run. 😏
The repeated use of "mental" makes me think Nostalgia Nerd had Octavius write the script for this one.
Yeah, assault rifles are legal here if you’re able to pay a 200 dollar tax stamp and afford the high five figure asking price. Definitely a problem, amirite? All those rich people with assault rifles while poor people don’t have access to them.
Corman’s Death Race 2000 is a classic. It’s a classic, and yes it also stinks.
Since you mentioned censorship of video games, you should talk about that one time when video games (or at least arcade games) were blanket-banned in the Philippines during the early 80s by the Marcos regime, reportedly due to parenting groups complaining that their kids were too engrossed on Pac-Man rather than their studies on the same token as the dictator banning _Voltes V_ and other similarly violent anime series.
Ironically enough, his son Bongbong Marcos would upload a vlog decades later where he reminisced about the *very same medium his father outlawed* and was coached by what appears to be his grandkids or nephews into playing _Mobile Legends._
Death race 2000 seems mild compared to Carmaggedon (sp) loved that game. Stunning cun...cunning stunt bonus. 😁
I played Destruction Derby so much on PS1, one of my favorite games there
Why isn't your crowdfunding video listed anymore?!
Actually, at 4:58 it's "Table Foosballer"...
I would love to see a video covering Space War.
"Bobbins"
"Like an absolute mentalist"
Did Octavius help write this script? Awesome if they did. ❤
I thought the same thing when I heard bobbins 😄
Right near the end, written and produced by the King of bobbins.
Most people find it laughable that anyone would get upset over the crude graphics in these early games. I find it laughable for a different reason: All of the outrage was entirely based on the descriptions of the games.
What does Death Race actually show? A car running over stick figures. Maybe they're monsters and you're saving the world by running them over. Is the game still as objectionable with that plot?
How about Custer's Revenge? Does the actual game show any bondage or have any on screen indication that the sex isn't consensual? What if the game was called Forbidden Love and the plot was that a cowboy and a Native American woman had fallen in love, but her tribe was trying to keep them apart? It goes from being a misogynistic nightmare to a story about love overcoming racial, and ethnic boundaries.
Say “Darby” again
Great video Peter, you still living in Norwich, enjoyed this one.
I wasn't aware that running people over with a car gifted one with the power to read minds. I'm going to have to get on that!
Annnnnnnd then we got CARMAGEDDON.🤘💀
Play Interstate ‘76 for the PC. It came out in 1998 I believe. One of the finest games I ever played with a great little story.
Or Carmageddon, where you gain Bonus Points for mowing down pedestrians, with gory animations
I had the demo on my old 486 (i76).... about 8 fps. Still played the crap out of it though.
Angry parents wanting to ban a game has always been the best marketing a game could ever recieve. It always happens every now and then. Whenever I hear of a game getting banned or censored I go out of my way to obtain it even if I wouldn't have any interest in it otherwise.
I played Death Race at Shakey's Pizza.
2:43 was that the cabinet/game that was kinda featured in the movie Soylent Green?
Manhunt 2 and its ban was one of the most idiotic pieces of moral guardianship ever.
Or changing the ninja turtles to heros because the uk government thought the mere mention of ninjas would have kids all over our great nation murdering each other with shuriken's or something.
Imagine GTA in 1976 pmsl they would shit themselves moaning lolol 😂😂😂
Hearing you say Destruction Darby makes me chuckle!
what 21:49 YIKES
sounds like paradise
In addition to being historically interesting Death Race is a fun little game. Last I knew they had a working machine at Funspot in Laconia, New Hampshire here in the US. I've played that one a number of times. The "screams" of the gremlins are pretty amusing, too.
I just played this game Death race at Pin ball Hall of fame in las vegas yesterday
Beautiful ad Segue haha love it