Foot Doctor Explains Carlos Alcaraz STILL Uses 2 Year Old Shoes
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Real foot doctor explains why world #1 Carlos Alcaraz still plays in the Nike Vapor Pro instead of the Nike Vapor Pro 2 as he makes a bid to win the 2023 US Open. We also discuss why pro tennis and basketball players use old shoe models so often instead of switching to the latest models.
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At this point it doesn’t feel like Nike has any idea what tennis players want. We hate change and we love routine. Incremental updates are much more suited to us. Racquet manufacturers know it. Why doesn’t Nike?
100%, i needed new shoes and just bought another pair of the same model because I'm scared of not getting the fit right or anything like that 😂 Asics Speed FF 2 for me
@ConsciousPallythis is just a ridiculous statement. Whether YOU like them or not, you can’t say they don’t care. If they didn’t care , Nike wouldn’t keep innovating and making big changes. They would just mKe small changes with cosmetic updates and just keep charging big dollars.
They may be referring to Nike majorly dropping the ball on not retaining Federer a few years back. I think Nike lost some of the employees who really knew and loved tennis. Otherwise, I can't see why they wouldn't fight harder to keep Federer in Nike attire.@@errolmclaughlin1482
I think you hit the nail right on the head. It truly feels like Nike shoe designers have been throwing a bunch of poop against the wall with hopes that some of it sticks for the last five years. The company seems to be totally lost with regard to the tennis shoe line at this point in time in my opinion.
I’ve NEVER had an issue with Nike shoes fit or performance. Specifically the Vapor Pro or Pro 2. Guess they’re just not engineered for some people’s feet or preferences. But to suggest that the shoes are crap is a bit over the top.
I understand why Nike release new models cause a lot of people want "upgrades" and get interested in new stuff, new tech, new look, etc. But I don't understand why they can't keep producing some of the more popular models at the same time. If both Alcaraz and Rune, two of the hottest players this year, both prefer the old Vapor Pro, why not just keep producing that one too...
Similar to many NBA players still using Kobe 6 after 10 yrs since its introduction
Very glad you addressed this. However, I would argue that many players who compromised for the Vapor Pro would go back to the Vapor X or 9.5. Both Alcaraz and Rune were seen practicing with the Vapor Pro 2 early in the year and then went back to the Vapor Pro. This combined with the feedback from everyone else seems to confirm some sort of regression on Nike’s end. They’re also all uglier shoes, which is just salt in the wound.
Many players like Kyrgios and Grigor Dimitrov continue to play with 9.5s. Glad to see they’ve brought them back.
@@lanersm56yes! Because the 9.5 style & similar ones before it were great, & then they tried to make the shoe lighter & honestly cheaper to make & the shoes were crap. Everyone I know preferred the older style, I couldn’t wear the new ones. Couldn’t tighten the shoe enough & couldn’t tighten the shoe at the toes/upper foot, felt like my feet were going to fly out & simultaneously it was too tight around my mid-foot. They should never have discontinued the 9.5 model. Vapor pro was dreadful.
@@lanersm56I have not been able to find them, were can you purchase Vapor 9.5 or x thanks
I think we all still don’t like the Vapor Pro. I personally would LOVE to have back the Vapor Pro over the Pro 2. That Pro 2 is not a Vapor at all. Idk why they just didn’t drop a new line of shoe.
Answering your question, the X was my fav past shoe.
lol yep- proves my point
I don’t play tennis nor use tennis shoes, but always love hearing/seeing the tech and breakdown.
You’re the real MVP
This video is very relatable, new does not equate better. I play different sports and find that older versions of a the models tend to be better built and accommodate my foot.
I’m still looking for the old adidas d rose 3/4 shoes to play, the fun I had in them can’t be replicated in other models
and boy do you see more regression in the latest models than the previous though
Have u tried the retromod of the drose 4?
It was a retro with bounce instead of adifoam
@@neospiderman2165 cant seem to find a pair to try yet. Sold out everywhere where I’m from unfortunately
Nike Zoom Vapor 9.5 is that shoe for me. Very nostalgic about those and glad Nike brought them back for now.
You have plenty of options with those now
I’ve been looking and I can’t find them anywhere. I’ve only been able to find the vapor pro 2
I bought a limited release wide version of the vapor pro at the end of last year. That version is an incredible shoe, especially for a speed shoe. In addition, it's a bit more durable than a typical speed shoe, however it's not a gel resolution type shoe, and tons of people forget that. The forefoot midsole area is surprisingly padded well too. The fact that they came out with a wide version was a surprise to me, because Nike rarely does that.
Where did u bought it at?!?? It’s all sold out everywhere??
@@thewild_beast45tv18 I bought it late last year off the nike website. I guess it's a case of "you snooze, you lose" lol
Vapor Pro is great as a lightweight, minimal tennis shoe - ideal for a pro who's moving at top speed, aggressively, and doesn't want to be slowed down. But for any rec player who wants comfort, it's a tough sell. For every person who loved the OG Vapor Pro, someone hated them for lack of cushioning. I think the Vapor Pro 2 tried to find a balance but overall, I feel it took away from the OG's strengths while not really fixing the weaknesses.
Nike pro stock shoes are never the same as the ones you can buy though… I bet they use way less glue and better rubber on the outsole. Even federer’s shoes back in the zoom 9.5 days had a ton of carbon in the shank
The shoe I wish would protro or retro in some form or fashion that I absolutely loved was the Hyperdunk 2013. I had a blast playing in those
Totally agree!! I think Nike Vapor Pro the original is perfectly fit for new generations of tennis/athletes players giving some degrees of freedom that other classic models don't have. I used both models and just can say the original is way too better than the Vapor Pro 2
I’m nothing close to a pro athlete, but I played basketball a lot. I loved Jordan’s and Nikes, but the Adidas Cray Quick 2’s are the most amazing shoes I have played in. It felt like I am playing in socks, so flexible, so light.
You hoop in tennis shoes? How is it? Im really curious
I always wondered....do pro athletes stock up on their favorite shoes or do they contact Nike and ask for some deadstock? Also doesnt the material just degrade over time, even if it's just sitting on a shelf?
I’m sure it’s a bit of both- depending on their contract
I grew up on the zoom cage 3, and I don’t even need to be nostalgic to say they are better than the 4s. I am hoping Nike goes back to a similar design of the 3 when they come out with the cage 5s.
lol you’re proving my point
I still use the vapor x and have stocked up (i now have 10 pairs) i gave the vapor pros 2 chances and both failed miserably! Far less support and the foam just felt alot tougher and i found my feet getting sore. Durability was also average at best! Ill admitt im obsessed with the look of the vapor 10s. I recently ordered the re released vapor 9.5 and love the look too. They feel slightly heavier, but they are just as comfy and i think provide a bit more support.
I am tempted to give the vapor 11s a try as i dont mind the look, but like the rest of the comments i feel nike was better making smaller adjustments to the shoe. I hope they keep the 9.5s out for a long time. I laso like to match my gear where i can and i own alot of Nike's outfits so i like to keep the shoes in the same brand.
The insoles on the vapor pro are a disaster. Change them and you’ll be good.
I think there are many of us out there. The vapor x was the best.
Nike, just make a revamped Vapor X.
Keep the adaptive lacing system but the lace holes like the Vapor 11. For a hassle free and fast best fit.
Don’t slant the midsole inwards. Just neutral. To fit most people.
And add a Zoom unit in the forefoot.
After I changed vapor pro to vapor lite, I forget about my plantar fasciitis. )) Right now I use vapor 11 and Anta wave 4 pro. No more air zoom unit under calcaneus!!! And basketball shoe with right footprint is better for tennis.
I just love the Nike vapor 9.5s. The traditional tongue and actual leather are my 2 fav features and I really like the classic styling
THANK you for this vid! Was always curious about this. Taylor Fritz also played with old model until he recently switched to Asics lol
i own the old vapor, and it was good but it kinda lacked some support and cushion for me. Since i have quite small and narrow feet. A more cushioned and support tennis shoes might suit me more.
My philosophy with shoes:
If it ain’t broke don’t fix!
Hit the nail on the head. I still miss my Barricade IV's.
I have noticed a few players sticking to old shoes like Dimitrov has rocked the ZV9.5 with the carbon fibre shank even before the re-release. Casper Ruud has stuck with the previous model of the Yonex Eclipsion 3 rather than the 4.
I love these shoes! I play singles and I love how stable and low to the ground I feel. I feel safe sliding in them. Of course, they don't make them anymore, so I switched to Mizuno wave exceed tour.
My all time favorite tennis shoe was the Nike Air Oscillate which my idol Pete Sampras wore. I haven't worn a pair of Nike Tennis court shoes in about 20 years mainly because of durability issues. Been a long time wearer of the Adidas Barricade line but have noticed they are getting significantly heavier. May give the Asics Resolution or New Balance shoes a try. As always thanks for your videos they are great!
I loved the Kobe 4's a nd Vapor tour 9/9.5's when i was comepeting. I understand the reasoning behind the love for both! Im hoping they retro those models
Please look at jannik’s shoes too 🙏
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When Nike changed from Vapor 9.5 to Vapor X I was happy about it, but Vapor 11 or Pro 2 just didn’t seem right
The remember of my blue nike air was the best shoes. I would like wear them pne more time. I got 2 pairs and red after. It was before the green nike air of agassi time. This sneakers seems to be a asics challenger today the best of stability for me ! Nice video man !
Moreover dimitrov is the same he play with vaporx
The outsole is so much better on the older version
I personally agree but I know some touring pros that would argue that point
@@FootDoctorZach do you have a current shoe that you know of that compares to the older model?
I wore some Nike Dual Fusion cross trainer shoes that were amazing! Picked them up for 35$ at a Boston area Nike outlet on vacation
I think this touches upon a bigger issue with regards to Nikes entire shoe line the last 5 to 7 years. They seem to be changing models randomly at in hopes of finding a winning combination that sticks with the tennis playing public without regard for what the players want and need or value in terms of their shoe performance. The Vapor line is just one example. What about the Cage line - even Nadal can't wear the new Vapor Cage. Look at what they did with the Zoom Zeros and the GP Turbo - what shoes with cult following known for cushioning and they replaced it with the Zoom NXT, which was the total opposite in terms of performance and cushioning. Nike Tennis Division seems like an afterthought at the company at this point.
I’m holding out hope for the GP Challenge 1
@@FootDoctorZach Most of us, on the other hand, have moved on. Based on your playlists and selections for best shoes, it would seem you have too. Nike is just resting on their laurels right now while Mizuno, Diadora, Asics, and Lotto are delivering quality goods.
As someone with flat feet and plantar fasciitis, I find ASICS Kayanos (their running shoe model) to be far superior on a tennis court to any “tennis” shoes. It’s like a rolls Royce for my feet, but I blow through them in months, and the uppers tear with a single toe slide. Wish I could find something equivalent. Also, the kayanos are getting worse.
Wish I could find some Adidas Barricades from about 2018-2019. Had good support, but still flexible and were pretty light.
I am 47 and use vapor pro, and the feeling is solid, don't have complaints. The shoe is just low as it should be, and weight is also optimal. Footwork is easy and they are durable. At first I feel uncomfortable but over time they became comfortable. Stabilization and comfort during the play. They are not good for walking and running, just for playing tennis.
Back in the late 80’s. Nike came out with the air trainer. Wore that shoe for years. Didn’t last long, but just a great shoe. Nike has the shoe out now. I would love to wear it. But I know that the shoe isn’t the same and will probably be garbage. Nike just doesn’t have a good build quality anymore
Win what?
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I like your younger picture. Kinda nice vibes :)
Thanks for the good talk on tennis 👍🏼 my fav shoe so far is Barricade 2021. Gonna try new model soon.
Haha those were the glory days
I really like the vapor pro. I think it's problem is durability but when you're Carlos Alcaraz that's not a problem.
Yup
Weight of the shoe and profile of the shoe affecting one’s game is the most underrated appraisal of why people are so particular about their shoes. After switching away from Asics to the Vapor Pro Xs it really changed the way I could deliver Federer like backhands and forehands and volleys.
lol
You know what the old saying is “look good play good 😎”
Great video, thanks! Same feeling when I tried new models after the Vapor X… I’ll try the On but not the new Vapor models 🎾
You see everyone pine away for the Vapor 9.5. Nike even brought it back. I love my old K Swiss knitshots.
Vey good video. Unless they make old models along with the new ones, sneakers deteriorate sitting on the shelf. So, is not safe to play in old sneakers that have been sitting on the shelf. Thanks.
Switching back and forth from vapor pro and 9.5’s depending on which one starts to rip apart at toe faster lol
Alcaraz is sporting some new pale orange shoes in Turin....But had to stop practice to get new bandages on foot blisters......
My shoe of choice for basketball is the Under Armour Hovr Havoc 1….. 9 pairs in and I feel I need to find all the colorways because this shoe was elite…. Just unknown how elite….. would love a tare down of this shoe…. Would make my year ❤️🔥🫡👌🏻💪🏻
Watching your video I actually remembered how dissapointed / annoyed I was at the nike vapor pro when I actually left that comment :))) That's crazy. And they still suck compared to the awesome Vapor 9 and 9.5 of the glory of RF
Haha yeah this one was easy to find the comments
I had many opportunities to buy a pair of the pros, just didn't take them and kinda regret it; my ubersonic 4's and gel res 8 are still holding on, but won't last forever
Can totally see these guys not wanting to mess with their feet. Makes a lot of sense.
I've been wearing the Vapor X for the past 3 years, and have been buying them on ebay every now and them. Love the look and weight of the shoe but I'm finally going to retire it. At 38 years old I want something with some more cushion to absorb all the pounding on the hard courts. My favorite shoe. I still have two brand new in the box and may break them out one day or save them as a retirement fund :)
Haha sell them before the foam cracks
Do you plan on selling them? If so, what size are they?
@@briankubinec8049 yes. Size 13
The best tennis shoes for me were Adidas barricade 7. After Nike Lunarlon Vapor Tour.
vapor pro 1 helped me get a jones fracture. i hate the uneven base of the shoe. i still wish the vapor 9/9.5 were still available. vapor pro 2 is just so bulky. i didn't like the cage 4 either.
Great vid as always. I wanna see you get your hands on Tiafoe's new kicks!
You and me both...
Personally the Vapor Pro 2 is my favorite shoe ever so far to play in.
I am surprised with Nike Air Zoom Vapor 11 worn by few tour players. They're the most comfortable and stable shoes I've had so far.
hey have you check Rafael Nadal shoes that he used in his return at Brisbane 2024? what shoe was that? is not a cage 4, is it a cage 3?
This is true that the newer versions are getting worse day by day. Even in other products also. Conclusion : new version means worse than previous one.😅
I dont think nike can go worse as far as vapor pro 3. They already made a above average bulky shoe that is suppose to be light weight and flexible. We should get something better in 7 months when the new ones come out but we will see. all I liked from eh vapor pro 2 was forefoot zoom air. If I had to change one thing on the vapor pro 2 that would have made shoe feel so much lighter, it would be one piece outside. I would have made it 2 pieces with shank in middle like vapor 9.5, to decrease surface area and weight.
lol randomly watched to see I made it into the video 😄- I love my vapor pros, very consistent and great performer. Would like to see Nike not take such a basketball shoe development approach to tennis, these days feels less tech/performance focused more aesthetic.
Vapor pro were v good. What can I get to replace them??
Hey great vid! I have a unique problem where I've got a crazy wide foot (4E) and I'm burning through New Balance shoes at an alarming rate like every 2 months! I'm an aggressive foot worker and I don't see that changing. I'm willing to pay more for something more "durable" however I cannot find any shoes except lower end New Balance ($120 range) court shoes. I'm really at a loss. My options are so minimal that I feel like the universe is telling me I'm not even supposed to be playing tennis with my sasquatch feet! 😭 What do I do?!
HEY DOCTOR ZACK, COULD YOU SPEAK OF THE SHOE THAT NOVAK DJOKOVIC USES IN HIS TOURNAMENTS ? THANK YOU
Don’t understand how they can take a shoe that was competitive in the “speed shoe” space and now can’t even be considered in that category. Been a Vapor player for years & other models before that.
Why shouldn’t I switch to Mizuno?
There's a lot of "feel" involved in the player's decision making. Similarly, they sometimes play with older racquets painted with the most recent color scheme
@FootDoctorZach Do you have a review of the tennis (for Tennis) with most space on the toe box?
Would you give me a Suggestion about Nike clay shoes?
Im looking for a good stability..
Thankss.
Be curious to hear thoughts on shelf life if stocking up on a favorite shoe. I’ve heard from people who probably have no actually knowledge of the chemistry involved that because glue and foam will naturally degrade over time athletic shoes can’t be stored too long. I picked up quite a few of my favorite tennis racket about 10 years ago when it was being discontinued and just string when ready to use. Not sure I’d want boxes of shoes sitting on a shelf for that long.
If you wear them periodically they last longer but usually it’s a few years of sitting before the glue and foam start going on a standard Eva shoe- plastic foams alittle longer
I have played with vapor pro for around 4 months, and they got me fasciitis. They are pretty flexible and lightweight , but thesole has no cushioning.. It’s like playing without shoes. I don’t know if anybody else has suffer this.
If they ever re-issue the Nike Air Zoom Pounce or the Oscillates, I'm stocking up on a few pairs haha.
I went and looked at the Pounces again - so cool
Sucks Vapor pro is not in stock anymore, is there any replacement with possibly better durability
Man those Figjams with the Roddick signature are sick!
But would do anything for another pair of the Babolat propulse Stars and Stripes. Loved them
They’re the 🐐
I always wondered this too, plus Frances Tiafoe using the Turbo’s which I can’t find anywhere… so I’m wondering if he just has exclusive access to those shoes, or if Nike just doesn’t make them for the public. During the French Open 2023, a lot of pros got their hands on the Vapor 9.5s but they weren’t released for the public except one pair and that was that white with light blue scribble design. But players like Dimitrov and Shapovalov got the yellowish orangish color, or the all white 9.5s
Yeah they get PE models - the GP turbo is available in women's but you can just size up, its the same shoe- nike has 9.5's on their site now actually, i have a link to it in the description
@@FootDoctorZach ohhhh okay, I never check the actual Nike website… I’m so used to going to tennis warehouse, tennis express, and tennis point. That would be awesome if you could send the link!
Also irrelevant, but those power step soles, I took the surgery but got recommend 3 different ones, and I’ve seen your video on them, is there any way you’d recommend for me? Medium to high arch with heel and arch pain, I’d use for tennis?
adidas ubersonic 3. I loved those shoes man.
Dude u are so good at what you do! True professional lol
I appreciate you
can you please review the Yonex eclipsion 5 next ? Thank you
Just buy asics gel resolution, each new generation feels better than previous
though all gens are superb
Think about also the Rafa's shoes.. he has the old Nike.. Even though the Shops promote a Vapor model dedicates to him... even though I heve never seen him wearing them.. That's super deceiving.
hello, I had vapor pro where I was very fast with this pair but foot pain too tight for my foot but I love the lightness now I have the vapor pro 2 more stable but I am much too slow with it too heavy, do you have an alternative to offer me? I weigh 90kg, thank you very much
I love the old vapor pro and hate de vapor pro 2!
Hey doc.. since novak uses court ff3..does that mean that the court ff3 is better than the court ff2?
Which one do you prefer?
he used those prior- just the latest version of the same shoe
What are the best basketball shoes for wide feet? A shoe with a wider toe box?
Ultimate Basketball Shoe Buyers Guide 2023
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What would you think would be the best replacement for these shoes
Solution speed ff2 or aglt23 ultra
could you please do the under armour futr x 2?
hello doctor,is there a shoe that is good both in tennis and basketball?
KDTrey2
Can I use the Vapor Pro 1 for basketball?
I spose
Do the nike air force 1 pls its a retro basketball shoe
Hey doc can you do the Puma All-Pro Nitro
The Kobes have newer tech so, I would argue that the Kobes pros hoop in are not from a former era
Does anyone have a link where I can get them?
In my opinion, the best tennis shoes Nike ever made were the Courtballistec 4.3
Comfort, Durability, Traction, Speed. Since this model, Nike has only gotten worse.
A lot of the Kobe shoes are Protros, though. Those technically aren’t old shoes.
Well, it's not like a phone that you want a new one every 1-3 years.
Nike Vapor Pro 2 already game me black toe within 7 uses.
608 new balance white leather protect my feet
Try the puma all pro nitro!
At some point
Superstitious reasons for sure. Look at how long Federer used his Vapor 6! Or even Nadal using the same sole since CB2.3
What other shoe out there is similar to the Nike vapor pro 1?
Solution speeds and aglt 23
I mean i am a top junior in india and the vapour pro is a way better shoe than the vapour pro 2
UPDATE: Nike’s desperate.
I saw an IG post about Alcaraz sporting his own “custom” Nikes in Australia. But in reality they are just Vapor Pros made to look like Vapor 11’s. They just added the TPU side wall and did it in the current color schemes. Probably because it’s a terrible look that none of Nike’s top pros wear their current models, with the exception of Tiafoe.