【Sonic Theory: Does Sonic's Speed Equal His Strength? (Response to Gnoggin/Matpat)】

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  • Sonic Theory #3 - S1:E3
    Does Sonic's Speed Equal His Strength? Is He Faster Than a Black Hole? And How Similar are Sonic Characters with DBZ? Find all of that and more in this Video! Hope you all Enjoy :)
    Video Sources I Used:
    Screwattack - / screwattack
    Gnoggin - / lockstin2
    Johnny - / somecallmejohnny
    Music Used:
    "Burn" - Louis Futon
    "Drunk" - Louis Futon
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  • @reshumbrella6823
    @reshumbrella6823 7 ปีที่แล้ว +166

    sonic is THE KING OF SPEED WHO IS WITH ME

    • @jamarjinx8380
      @jamarjinx8380 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The Flash is MUCH faster then you

    • @saifahmad7630
      @saifahmad7630 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      sonic the hedgehog i love sonic but flash is breaking you

    • @hwanniggles187
      @hwanniggles187 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Resh Umbrella *God

    • @ziadusama755
      @ziadusama755 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The flash is faster because he ran faster than teleportaion

    • @Sora-iwnl
      @Sora-iwnl 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Zeyad Usama yea he does but this guy is using video game Sonic so he is slower than Flash but Archie Sonic is wayy faster than Flash cuz he has no limited in speed

  • @GamerGuyd7Aces
    @GamerGuyd7Aces  8 ปีที่แล้ว +161

    Dislaimer: I realize that Sonic from the Archie Comics is much more faster and OP than the videogame Sonic. That's why in this Theory video I made I'm ONLY talking about the Videogame canon Sonic.. not the Archie Comics. So for those of you saying that he's faster than light and there are sources, that is definitely true for the comics.

    • @deetamerkingof24planets17
      @deetamerkingof24planets17 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +GamerGuyd7Aces really where is that

    • @justiceliveson4817
      @justiceliveson4817 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Totally agree

    • @wshaw9412
      @wshaw9412 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      What about in generations when tails said that sonic was fast enough to rip a hole in time and space?

    • @doomedgundam6684
      @doomedgundam6684 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      actually super sonic is flt
      base Sonic is highly supersonic.

    • @doomedgundam6684
      @doomedgundam6684 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cameron Varner
      The lightspeed dash isn't running.
      Plus it can be activated via trail of rings.
      The lightspeed attack is something Sonic cannot do on his own.
      It's origin comes for Sonic hero's if I recall it was a team special.

  • @ExoParadigmGamer
    @ExoParadigmGamer 8 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Good video and all, but I thought that "black hole" was a Nega-Hyper-Go-On energy explosion. You know, the stuff Eggman was extracting from the wisps in the Asteroid Coaster to power his mind control cannon? The arm from the ferris wheel boss punctured the mind control cannon and caused it to backfire when Eggman attempted to activate it, allowing the Nega-Hyper-Go-Ons to escape and envelop the park in its wake. I've played Sonic Colors many times and don't remember Eggman or anyone else ever mentioning an artificial gravity generator.

    • @GamerGuyd7Aces
      @GamerGuyd7Aces  8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      +ExoParadigmGamer Yeah, that's true.. it was never mentioned. But since it looks and behaves like a black hole, Sonic fans on the internet called it a black hole and started claiming that Sonic's so fast he could outrun a blackhole for a while, lol smh. Since Sega never stated it in the game, It's not a blackhole, but it does behave like one, so I compared it with a black hole.

    • @hemilindasotelo1914
      @hemilindasotelo1914 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are there any characters than sonic or his forms?

    • @elijahlee3610
      @elijahlee3610 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +GamerGuyd7Aces just because a black hole isn't made by natural causes doesn't mean it's not as powerful as one. You said it yourself sega doesn't confirm anything about this, so how can you say the "fake" black hole doesn't work as well as a "natural" one. In several franchises such as quantum break and Star Trek, the artificial black holes made operate just as efficient as natural black holes. True the different franchises have different rules for their universe, however that still doesn't change the fact that artificial black holes are always weaker than natural ones. In sonic colors the gravitational phenomena used gravity to bend space....BEND SPACE......and suck everything in in. Nuff said. Your sonic/flash comparison is wrong as well. Barry can't move Ftl anymore and sonic has broken the time barrier since Cd, later reinforced in secret rings, and completely confirmed in generations. He literally fixed time in space with speed. You can't be only as fast as sound to do that.

  • @HuskyZee
    @HuskyZee 8 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    And yet ANOTHER segment in Sonic Theories folks! This time Gamer explores the question "Does Strength Equal Strength?" Get some popcorn and enjoy! -Husky

  • @kellou8239
    @kellou8239 6 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Did sega confirm that super sonic has infinite speed? If so then....Judging on how strong a blow from super sonic would be...If the faster you charge to hit someone the harder the impact...If super sonic has infinite speed would that mean he has infinite strength?

    • @ammidtamiryisrael9719
      @ammidtamiryisrael9719 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yep. Basically.

    • @waringaw.m6350
      @waringaw.m6350 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Sonic in his base form has infinite speed

    • @ahmadkazan7994
      @ahmadkazan7994 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Super sonic is basically an invincible accelerator base sonic already has infinite speed so super sonic is basically an accelerator that never runs out.There is this vedio about how strong is sonic out of smash.Spoiler their is a lot of quadrillions in the vedio and numbers you can't comprehend.I dare you retell me one number of them.

    • @techstorm.3461
      @techstorm.3461 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought the one with infinite speed was Hyper Sonic.

    • @MarjanAmbroze
      @MarjanAmbroze 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sonic has infinite speed so basically Infinite Strength. Super Sonic is basically Sonic only he can fly while still, and is also invincible. Hyper Sonic just gives seizures to his opps. Dark Sonic is Sonic but with negative and dangerous intentions.

  • @northernskow3443
    @northernskow3443 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    According to a fanmail segment from the comics, sonic's top unaided speed is mach 15. But this is the comics.
    As far as Knuckles Strength, it's stated to be equal to sonic's speed. So at an absolute minimum around 100 tons.

  • @CalebAnimations
    @CalebAnimations 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Sega confirmed that he has infinite speed.

    • @omnii5818
      @omnii5818 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      source?

    • @cova_2715
      @cova_2715 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +Omni I 20th anniversary interview I think

    • @ODiS33
      @ODiS33 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      We'll also need the link to that...

  • @hypersonic5725
    @hypersonic5725 8 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Note:sonic is faster than the flash in video game as it was confirmed by gussines world sonic is the fastest video game character ever.

    • @Prime_Legend
      @Prime_Legend 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      And flash is NOT a video game character.

    • @joejoe8026
      @joejoe8026 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      and gussines world isnt the end all be all of facts. Unless they have proof. Link me to the record and i will take a look

    • @lfuckeggs8604
      @lfuckeggs8604 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I agree sonic is the fastest video game character ever and the flash is the fastest non-interactive medium put them together they are the same in speed.

    • @metroidcomet1116
      @metroidcomet1116 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      But in general, Flash is faster than Sonic in every version.

    • @rusty3818
      @rusty3818 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Every Version? Do you mean every incarnation of Sonic such as Archie, Boom and Fleetway or forms which enhance his abilities like Super Sonic, Dark-Spine Sonic and Hyper Sonic?

  • @blueblur3145
    @blueblur3145 7 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    video game sonic is faster than light

    • @tailsthefox7055
      @tailsthefox7055 7 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      The creator said, Sonic actually has Infinite speed.

    • @alexr6008
      @alexr6008 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Blue Blur314 I don't think you understand how fast light is.

    • @superplayer5194
      @superplayer5194 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      As hyper sonic yes.

    • @strange.frontiers
      @strange.frontiers 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      superplayer51
      it's not cannon so it doesn't count

    • @endmii1675
      @endmii1675 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      superplayer51 except okay imma refer to dragon ball so when goku turns super saiyan God and it runs out but he still has the strength because his body got used to the power and so that would be the same for sonic when he is hyper sonic he gets used to the speed but it doesn't stay that same forever when it drops out it only just give a tiny little boost of speed for him and he has progressed in speed over the years and he hasn't been hyper for those years so he could've surpassed hyper most likely not but probably surpassed super when he was super in sonic 3

  • @Amelia_Whitevoid
    @Amelia_Whitevoid 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    archie sonic is faster then flash

    • @thatonetrollwholikestomake2693
      @thatonetrollwholikestomake2693 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Karol Wolski Archie Sonic is fucking op. I love it.

    • @ODiS33
      @ODiS33 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yee, Archie sonic would beat any-one honestly...
      *Put's a Spectral being into the mix*
      Forget i said anything...

    • @capolean2902
      @capolean2902 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ODiS33 was boutta say lol

  • @WandererEris
    @WandererEris 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Quick point about Knuckles: I've always thought that his connection to the Master Emerald made him able to resist chaos energy when used by others, which is why he could hit Sonic out of his super state. He's also able to go super once you collect the Chaos Emeralds as him, remember, so it's reasonable to think that he may be as good as or better than Sonic with that power.
    The only problem with this is that he can't knock you out of super form when you actually fight him.

  • @colesnead4061
    @colesnead4061 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    dude you have just said what I've been thinking for YEARS man thank you for this Theory 😀

  • @incalculablesolarpower850
    @incalculablesolarpower850 8 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    SPD(Speed)
    Sonic ran up to 22,572 SPD in Jungle Joyride and then ran up to 37,640 SPD in Aria Sands
    Sonic using the Lightspeed Dash is at 396 SPD
    Now combine the SPD he ran im Jungle Joyride and Aria Sands and it leads to...............
    Sonic running 849,610,080 times Faster than the Speed of Light
    Came from Sonic JBG vids
    Sonic Unleashed (Hedgehog Levels):

  • @thelegendaryt-rex4763
    @thelegendaryt-rex4763 6 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Sonic is the BEST! Who agrees?

  • @onepunchboyprime6139
    @onepunchboyprime6139 8 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Pretty good. However I do believe Sonic is faster than light in his base form.

    • @GamerGuyd7Aces
      @GamerGuyd7Aces  8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +Andre Gallo Yeah, well quoting from Sega, they've always said in the game manuals that Sonic is faster than the speed of sound, which is considerably slower than speed of light. In fact, they never mentioned about sonic being faster than light. Either Sega thought "speed of sound" sounded cooler, or they dug themselves a hole with this

    • @onepunchboyprime6139
      @onepunchboyprime6139 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      ***** Well here is the thing, they never said that was Sonic's top speed.
      And I myself have two oficial sources of information, one being the Pedigree’s official guidebooks and the SEGA aproved book History of Sonic the hedgehog which both mention Sonic casually crossing the speed of light (in base form).
      Along with that I also have 2 different sources regarding Sonic as being the fastest videogame hero ever created, making him faster than, Ristar, Kirby and Asura all being ftl.
      Now I have some other proof, one being from the game Sonic Unleashed where the move Light Speed Dash (which is light speed) is clocked at around 350 in the SPD meter, however Sonic himself can get over 2000 in the SPD, that, would actually make ftl.
      Also keep in mind that the SPD can be considered SEGA'S way of telling how fast Sonic is going without having to make the gameplay awkward.
      Another thing I have is in the game Sonic Colours for the 3DS Omega says that Sonic will eventually cross the light barrier, to each Sonic replies that Light speed is too easy for him, heck and Tails seems to agree as he doesn't show any signs of skepticism.
      If you are interested I can bring you more proof including links and things of that sort.

    • @onepunchboyprime6139
      @onepunchboyprime6139 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ***** Also in one of the cutscenes for Sonic CD sonic dodges several lasers on the dark.

    • @GamerGuyd7Aces
      @GamerGuyd7Aces  8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Andre Gallo Yeah..I remember Mattpatt criticizing the spd meter heavily in his theory.. Even Gnoggin in his rebuttal noted how that is just a game mechanic (it's like saying super sonic only dies by falling in bottomless pits and getting crushed). Idk if you watched Gnoggin's video, but you def. should, he craps all over Mattpatt and his theory lol. Sonic could be going light speed or speed of sound, if that's the case the game would be over before it even started if he went at light speed.. since light speed covers millions of miles in a second. And yeah, I remember playing Sonic Colors on DS.. what sonic said always sounded weird and cocky to me, but oh well. At least we all know Sonic is the fastest thing alive in his universe, and definitely one of the fastest fictional characters. Also in Sonic CD, sonic dodging lasers is impressive, but other characters like Spider-Man can do the same thing too, and Spidey isn't faster than the speed of light, he's just got fast reflexes like Sonic (not to mention Spidey's Spider Sense)

    • @onepunchboyprime6139
      @onepunchboyprime6139 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ***** Well the SPD is there to say how fast Soic is going its a game mechanic sure, but its purpose is to show how fast Sonic is going. Yes I have watched both theories, both are flawed, Patts theory was flat out cringe worthy, Gnogin's was fine and I saw he was coming from a good place. Well the same argument goes for the speed of sound ifeither way he would be in the goal rings in a moment. If it was just cocky nonsense I bet Tails would have shown some sort of emotion towards it, and as cocky as he may be, Sonic never lied about his speed. Being fts doesn't even put him in the top hundred thousand to be honest... Wolverine is fts, being just ftl is not that great either, Archie Sonic has flat out shown infinite speed. Thet dif is that Sonic was in the dark and he didn't have anything to react too he couldn't possibly know the order of the lasers and he was always directly bellow them so its definitely an ftl feat, Spiderman has his spider sence and can always aim dodge something Sonic didn't do. Also keep in mind all the oficial statements of Sonic being FTL and the fact that Iizuka aproved of the text above. I'm still in the field of Sonic being FTL Super Sonic being MFTL and Hyper well... Hyper Id say is as fast or slower than current Super Sonic. Now I don't want to take anymore of your time, thanks for the replies, great video and have a good day.

  • @hypersonic5725
    @hypersonic5725 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Also in one of the interview, I believe yuji naka said sonic can reach speeds of infinity.

  • @gamercore5216
    @gamercore5216 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    14:05 "why goku was able to knock out sonic out of his super form." I see no Goku.

    • @lfuckeggs8604
      @lfuckeggs8604 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      it was just a slipp of the tounge he meant knuckles.

  • @ADiretoria100
    @ADiretoria100 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Wait...
    You said every year Sonic is more streng, right?
    So if streng = speed...
    And in Classic form he could be more fast them the LIGHT SOUND IN HYPER FORM
    So what the fuck happened if he appears in hyper form NOW
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    • @BingoHighway
      @BingoHighway 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      THAT FUCKER WOULD BE OP AS SHIT

    • @Syogren
      @Syogren 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand now you know why they never used it again ;P

    • @Alovon
      @Alovon 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Part of me says if he does a Hyper Boost, he would likely tear a hole in space-time and be able to keep up with the Flash. Not sure if he can out-run instantaneous teleportation though :/. Oh yeah Flash did that once... danged comic book logic. and that was post-crisis

  • @closair
    @closair 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If anyone has a question about speed being power. There are two examples I have: flash has an infinite mass punch, and a good punch has large momentum which means you have to punch faster.

  • @ilovememes920
    @ilovememes920 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love these theory's subed keep up the work dude

  • @GcmAstro97
    @GcmAstro97 8 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    You have made many mistakes in this video:
    1) Base SONIC can go faster than light (Sonic colors, Sonic Generation, Sonic CD, Sonic Unleashed), and may Travelling in the past or present,
    2) IN SONIC COLOURS was a real black hole formed by wisp, for example in DS when SONIC was converted into a black hole by Deny wisp, and then the same thing.
    black hole> Light> sounds.
    3) Super SONIC and much faster than the light, for example in SONIC RUSH with Burning Blaze and SUPER SONIC can easily escape into a universal black hole by the Eggman's robots
    4) Super SONIC not a SUPER SAYAN please but you're still saying that. and THEN SUPER sonic AND MUCH HIGHER than for skills GOKU.
    5) ALL TIME CLASSIC SONIC his super form had to remain concentrated Keep it fact in sonic advance and can see the DIFFERENCE between super classic Super Sonic and Modern Sonic.
    6) SLOW MARIO AND SONIC respect, the only games of Mario bros confirming his speed are SUPER MARIO WORD and PAPER MARIO. no comparisons, Sonic compared SUPERMAN has infinite speed.
    7)SONIC NOT never show his maximium speed because if do he can destroy everything , flash NOT is so fast only because can go trillions faster than light Sonic is infinity and never show tired when run, Sonic can go beyond the SPEEDFORCE because in SONIC CD he can go in few second in another dimensions , time and space. whit easy.
    8)SONIC CAN TRASFORM Speed in STREGHT IN Sonic Battles.
    9)SONIC CAN ISTANT DESTROY FLASH FOR HIS DESTRUCTIVE SPEED.
    10)FOR ALL THIS HYPER SONIC HAS A IMMESURABLE SPEED INSTANTENIUS

    • @mcwarrior1
      @mcwarrior1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      W

    • @GcmAstro97
      @GcmAstro97 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      if you see SONIC RUSH 2 SUPER SONIC ESCAPED IN A BLACK HOKE EASY, BECAUSE HE IS FASTER THAN LIGHT, I THINK MUCH

    • @scientisticthug8454
      @scientisticthug8454 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      you sound a little fanboyish

    • @GcmAstro97
      @GcmAstro97 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Scientistic Thug WHO ME? no i am a youtuber for fun

    • @scientisticthug8454
      @scientisticthug8454 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Giacomo De Biase shush one sanic man

  • @ionartimis9810
    @ionartimis9810 8 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I did not like the dk vs knuckles I wanted knuckles to win

    • @lilbased5373
      @lilbased5373 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      same here, Im pretty sure we all did

    • @style3244
      @style3244 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      josehp Williams you can use his as mii but i want the real knuckles

    • @lfuckeggs8604
      @lfuckeggs8604 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it was also unfair because most of knuckles power comes from the master emerald he was weakened which is why he ate one of Donkey Kong's bananas and started the fight because without the master emerald he can go hungry and get tired and weak see the master emerald needs to be guarded 2047 so it would make sense for the master emerald to give it's body guard the ability to glide faster,not get tired,not get hungry and make him stronger. the master emerald was not present so he got tired he got hungry he was weaker it just was not fair

    • @lpflowrider8619
      @lpflowrider8619 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Because Screwattack is biased and pick the winner how they feel like. Their Statement about letting them fight in their strongest state is bullshit if they sincerely stuck to that one of the places DK and Knuckles would fight on is Angel Island

    • @emceemunchapussy1891
      @emceemunchapussy1891 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I dunno man did knuckles literally punch a moon out of it's orbit? Can knuckles pull sunken ships out of the water while he's ON the ship? Knuckles doesn't even know left from right how do you expect him to win?

  • @themarvelanimefan7082
    @themarvelanimefan7082 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    6:10 YO I DIDNT EVEN CACTH THAT SCENE WHEN I WAS WATCH THE ENTIRE CUTCSENE BRO WHICH SHOWS SONIC IS A BEAST DUDE 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱

  • @whightops1034
    @whightops1034 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    actuality in an interview with the creators of sonic, ether yuji uekawa or naoto ohshima (sorry can remember witch) said super sonics speed was limitless, his as fast as he needs to be.

  • @zemom.a.8171
    @zemom.a.8171 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    in my opinion screw attack is making fights completely biased you can tell it by some fights and the sentence they once dropped: "screw you guys (we dont care) thats how WE do it!" that means: "you can bring as much arguments as you wont,we will let the one character win we like the most and dont care about correctness"
    and no that wasn't made up they really have said this

    • @zemom.a.8171
      @zemom.a.8171 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      *"...as you want..."

    • @StarForce99
      @StarForce99 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's why they are called "Screwattack".

    • @zemom.a.8171
      @zemom.a.8171 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Silver The "Psychic" Hedgehog 1:0 for you...

    • @StarForce99
      @StarForce99 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      lol

    • @user-xy6qv1kn2o
      @user-xy6qv1kn2o 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Zemo M.A. please i need to know were you found that comment please can you tell me please and thanks the comment of screwattack not careing about correctness

  • @Destroyer-lr5kj
    @Destroyer-lr5kj 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Sonic can travel time. He did that in Sonic and the secret rings.

    • @omnii5818
      @omnii5818 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That was through the rings powers

    • @prajiturel2902
      @prajiturel2902 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Destroyer 10203 sonic cd

    • @lfuckeggs8604
      @lfuckeggs8604 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      and in CD why does know one acknowledges that fucking game

    • @thrasher9534
      @thrasher9534 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@omnii5818 he found a way home Sonic ran

  • @agronegocio-co6ib
    @agronegocio-co6ib 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    6:10 i never noticed that!

  • @joshuaredmon6407
    @joshuaredmon6407 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now that whole video was a great theory

  • @solomonmccovery9805
    @solomonmccovery9805 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    i do not think flash is faster than sonic. Just like gnoggin said he just doesn't want to. when sonic was running up the chain if he went his full full FULL speed he might break the chain so he'll might fall. BUT i say if he went the speed of light to get up the broken chain (saying he went to fast and damage blah) he might create a wave so powerful that it'll reach the ground and damage the area. Also there is if he went too fast he could of accidentally time travel ( with flash being able to time travel with speed) so i think sonic is way faster than flaah without super or hyper. traveling as fast as possible in hyper may just create a wave and destroy existence itself. but i know some of u people think im over rating hyper

    • @lfuckeggs8604
      @lfuckeggs8604 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      sonic and the flash can time travel

    • @capolean2902
      @capolean2902 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      They're jus about equals

  • @cpdmusa976
    @cpdmusa976 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    wait I thought we where talking about sonic's speed + his strenght

    • @strange.frontiers
      @strange.frontiers 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      CPDM USA
      lol I was thinking the same thing!

  • @TSMSnation
    @TSMSnation 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    there is one thing you need to take into account with sonic's speed, and that's we've never seen im trying. in every shot hes ether got a smirk or is paying attention to something else, while with flash, you can visible see hes at least needing to try a bit.

  • @jdzombie51
    @jdzombie51 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video!! But is time for update with forces and the black hole in it

  • @thorshammer7883
    @thorshammer7883 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    they should bring back Hyper Sonic, way to fix it bring a more powerful opponent of course.

  • @TrueBlueOfficial
    @TrueBlueOfficial 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    y u have ti use screwattack as a source?

    • @deetamerkingof24planets17
      @deetamerkingof24planets17 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +TheTrueBlueSonicFan they sometime mess up not all the time sometimes

    • @ODiS33
      @ODiS33 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Trueblue cuz they're not exactly idiot's.

    • @justsomeponywithamustache8731
      @justsomeponywithamustache8731 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      KingMich9
      Mario Vs. Sonic 2019 might change your mind about them

  • @think_of_a_storyboard3635
    @think_of_a_storyboard3635 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If hyper sonic ever comes back, it would have to be like a glow or fading into the colors

  • @spacepuppy720
    @spacepuppy720 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Coming from both a giant sonic and dbz fan, this is a great theory that I am convinced on

  • @iam4026
    @iam4026 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    there was this official description about super sonic saying that he can move at least close to light speedd

  • @JophesCT
    @JophesCT 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In Sonic Colors, Omega said that if Sonic kept accelerating, light speed would be exceeded.

  • @theawezome6699
    @theawezome6699 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    an interview with the creator of sonic stated that his speed in super form is infinite. force (or power) is mass x speed, mass x infinity = infinity. Aswell, sonic CD shows sonic going back in time by running, IN HIS BASE FORM.

    • @joejoe8026
      @joejoe8026 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      do you have a link of this inteview?

  • @Freshy10
    @Freshy10 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ahh...Terminal Velocity Act 2, a memorable Sonic Colors moment and my favorite TV Act 2.

  • @hotanimebabe9301
    @hotanimebabe9301 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    When going faster than the speed of sound not only does it look like things are frozen in place but it also makes it a higher chance for death as stated. Therefor sonic, he had to learn to highten his senses so he can dodge significantly.

  • @silvurrrboi230
    @silvurrrboi230 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I dunno if I should mention that Sonic was confirmed to be faster than light in an Official Annual Book, by E-123 Omega in colors and by Takashi Izuka himself

  • @mynameiscaz
    @mynameiscaz ปีที่แล้ว

    i love how at this time no one was talking about sonic generations where he legit RAN SO FAST HE BROUGHT BACK LIFE TO THE REALITY OF THE ZONES
    it was also already stated game sonic was massively faster then light at this time anyways

  • @dunno6161
    @dunno6161 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Okay. There are good points here. BUT. The "Hyper Flash" is more a Chaos Blast than a Homing Attack. And yes, Knuckles was able to break Sonic out of Super, but it's not that Sonic drops his guard, but the later point that Knux can render the Emeralds and even Super Emeralds inept. the drop in power releases the gems in a small pulse.

  • @ashcizzle
    @ashcizzle 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sonic does go faster than the speed of light when he uses the "light speed dash" and in other instances. I believe his body can take traveling any amount of speed, but sometimes he needs a bit of an extra push (like more energy such as rings) to give him the push he needs. If his body can do it with energy helping it, his body HAS the capacity of performing the action. So he really can move at the speed of light. Also, he does control time and space with his speed even by fueling the power of stones to activate the ability of time warping like that for him. You have to be really fast to do that. And I'm sure with Sonic's "luck" and talent he really can outrun a black hole. He can run faster than light. His body is capable of it sometimes, so why not whenever he has enough energy, like when he has a ton of power rings? I've seen plenty of theories that debunk the Flash being faster than Sonic. BUT that and your video are just theories anyway, so you shouldn't act like you're right when the name of your video consists of the word "theory." I really do believe all that stuff and the science behind it; I'm not one of those fans that are just like "Sonic is faster than everything because SEGA said so." But everything else in your video seems pretty accurate. I agree with most of it. Despite all the things I've said throughout this, I love the rest of your video. Also, you're really smart. But you can be wrong sometimes. I'm not saying I'm always right; I'm just saying either of us could be wrong because these are just "theories." So keep on using your smarts, you really do have a lot of them.
    Wait a second, weren't you supposed to conclude if his strength equals his speed and the science behind it? You never said if Sonic's speed was greater than his strength, or the other way around.

    • @calebthecrow4868
      @calebthecrow4868 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ash Ciz SEGA didn’t really say he is faster than EVERYTHING, just most things, infinite was created to be faster than sonic, not as fast as him like metal sonic, not close to like shadow, but FASTER.

  • @SonicRasengan
    @SonicRasengan 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wait he's punching in that scene? I never noticed. I thought he was just running through them just like he does in the gameplay.

  • @toribot1768
    @toribot1768 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    First off that was NOT a Black Hole, at least so far as the Main Console Release is concerned. They never once called it a Black Hole and the explosion did not contain an Event Horizon, meaning that by both canon means, it was not a Black Hole but instead a weird explosion probably generated by the Wisp's Energy or Chaos Energy.
    Also Sonic did not outrun it, he got his ass kicked by it.
    While it did generate weaker traits a Black Hole would create, it was obviously not one, just something that acted like one.
    Now as for the explosion, maybe? I don't know. As far as the game is concerned we don't know WHAT it is. We don't know if anything like that exists today however it is safe to say it is probably a giant Electro Magnetic Wave (Which would throw away the "Properties of Black Holes" thing I just said because then it would have ONLY picked up and pulled the metal around Sonic LIKE IT DID). This is all you really need to know.

  • @FannyPackMan100
    @FannyPackMan100 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 2:25, what (presumably call of duty) game is that?

  • @Stoneman39488
    @Stoneman39488 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    10:59 what is the music PLS tell me

  • @akumatenshu1633
    @akumatenshu1633 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    also in generations you see that the story book series is canon and in that you see sonic is able to break time with his speed which is only possible at speeds near/at/greater than the speed of light

  • @ERROR24016
    @ERROR24016 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    With the hyper flash, I think the actual flash is when he breaks the light barrier. These things are called photonic booms. People have made them happen with a fog that dramatically slows light inside it.

  • @FannyPackMan100
    @FannyPackMan100 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Something I wonder that is a bit off topic-when Whis turned back time to save Goku, doesn't that techically also cause another spit in the timeline where goku is near death or dead, possibly? Like with the split caused by trunks time travelling?

  • @OnePunchYume
    @OnePunchYume 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    According to Omega in the DS version of Sonic Colors, at Sonic's rate, light speed will be exceeded to which Sonic replies "light speed? That's small time, there's no challenge" which could mean he can do light speed in base form and some games say he can go light speed while rolling and in Adventure 2 both him and Shadow have a streak right behind them but that could just be an esthetic or he's just bluffing.

  • @YOS4132
    @YOS4132 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    From ware is that fight animation of knux vs sonic? Looks pretty cool

  • @supersonicx7216
    @supersonicx7216 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    It took 30 seconds for Sonic to almost outrun that implosion from Eggman Amusement Park!

  • @bummycartier4095
    @bummycartier4095 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I mean it was stated in an interview (you can look it up) in his super form he can reach speeds of infinity

  • @littenfire3563
    @littenfire3563 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    my own head cannon/ theory to Base Form Sonic vs Perfect Chaos is taht Sonic is also better at absorbing energy. He needed to be in his Super form to absorb and remove the negative energy from Perfect Chaos, but can now do that naturally. Sonic in Sonic colors was able to absorb the Wisps and describes it as "feeling powered up by some kind of crazy energy" showing again, that he can absorb energy in his base form. This is also how Sonic becomes the Werehog in Sonic Unleashed.

  • @Yannopill
    @Yannopill 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    well I trust most of this, however, shadow has limiter rings on his feet and it's not possible to go back in time like the flash so some points are a little debatable

  • @porobotboyxxx
    @porobotboyxxx 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    My friend Playerback 771 showed me a screenshot of Sonic going faster than a laser wisp, in Sonic Colors DS, and a dialogue inbetween scene of Sonic stating that the speed of light was a cakewalk; it was brief but Sonic at base, can go the speed of light, sometimes. But I still like your video. C:

  • @mightplay8494
    @mightplay8494 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I still think that at the end of sonic colors is a black hole, since one of the wisps that were inside the space park of eggman is a wisp black hole, and had several of them there, they must have activated and created one gigantic black hole that Sonic could almost escape, and he just did not escape because he was not running at full speed either

  • @matti.8465
    @matti.8465 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think Sonic doesn't run at the speed of sound simply because that would reduce his control. The places he runs into are full of hazards and enemies and he can't just go carelessly at max speed without time to react to obstacles. So he chooses to go fast enough to be able to see what's coming.

  • @Alex_Mercer_The_PROTOTYPE
    @Alex_Mercer_The_PROTOTYPE 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Speed Characters like Flash or Sonic are Awesome

  • @hypersonic5725
    @hypersonic5725 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I liked your theory about the Hyper Flash attack.P.S proof of Sonic having chaos powers is in Sonic adventure 2 when Super Sonic and Super Shadow teleported the Ark.

  • @pianogamer
    @pianogamer 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is probably a dumb question but, does Sonic move faster than the speed of light when he uses light speed dash?

  • @charlesdawson2928
    @charlesdawson2928 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    14:02 k dat explains my 1st question

  • @christophereden2976
    @christophereden2976 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whats the name of the song that plays at 0:33

  • @dangaianimation6654
    @dangaianimation6654 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know I’m late but sonic is faster than light in base form in one of the games when sonic is talking to omega. Omega says sonic is going light speed and then after sonic himself says “light speed that’s small timed for me” and then there’s a guide for sonic unleashed that says sonic is ftl and there’s also a feat in sonic generations where sonic is running SO fast he is fixing time and space and sonic wasn’t tired after that

  • @chimp1561
    @chimp1561 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Depending on the speed of a hit you will get stung really bad if someone smacks you fast enough so imagine sonic max speed slapping you in the face you have died so his speed doesn't technically equal his strength but a slap at Max speed will do some major damage

  • @honestcritic543
    @honestcritic543 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sonic IS faster than light in his base form

    • @ODiS33
      @ODiS33 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Archie sonic u mean?

    • @honestcritic543
      @honestcritic543 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      KingMich9 both

    • @ODiS33
      @ODiS33 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Then you're absolutely wrong...

    • @honestcritic543
      @honestcritic543 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      KingMich9 comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/official-confirmation-that-sonic-is-faster-than-li-1880679/

    • @ODiS33
      @ODiS33 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh... is that guide made by Sonic team or sega? (EVEN if it's STATED by sega it's an official and reliable guide... it's good)
      well that explains sonic in his BASE form...
      but what about Super sonic?
      OR HYPER SONIC?!
      OH GOD THE SPEEDS!
      Edit: *Read's Closely*
      Huh... i don't believe he's that willing to go at those speeds though...

  • @saniyya2493
    @saniyya2493 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    10:07 But Sonic can do the same thing as Super Sonic in Sonic Mania. I know this video was made before Sonic Mania, so can you make a video about this topic?

  • @lovelylow69
    @lovelylow69 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is dark spine better than dark or super or hyper? Is Excalibur sonic better than darkspine sonic? Is sonic faster than nano? Some day in the future I'll anser those questions and much more.

  • @jarettscott2921
    @jarettscott2921 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    came out on my birthday

  • @danbaker4
    @danbaker4 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    10:29 sonic adventure 2: uses chaos control

  • @Roze_aye
    @Roze_aye 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    So the real dilemma, how the hell did that black hole not instantly start messing with whatever planet sonic was on at the end

  • @williammacintosh16
    @williammacintosh16 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    A few abilities i would love to see that sonic could quite possibly do is like a power wind base attack give his speed which would be beneficial since he’s well speedy. I mean sure shadow has chaos power and silver has his esp but all sonic has is speed and the ability to tap in to chaos or any other ancient power within a given story/alternative universe.also he actually should be able to pull of using such wind like abilities in the first place give that he can plow through metal robots and run across water much more speed stuff even create tornadoes if he so wanted too! I don’t see a reason why he should be able to simply attack his enemies with forceful and compressed wind attacks i mean in some of his other games he could literally disperse little shock waves at his enemies with a simple amplified flip kick in both in the air or on ground even can do it spin dashing. So it shouldn’t be difficult for him to have wind controlling abilities in the near future.

  • @big_sunky6994
    @big_sunky6994 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Knuckles on Angel Island near the master emerald vs Dk = Dk gets punched into ublivien

  • @charlesdawson2928
    @charlesdawson2928 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    sonic does have energy blasts and chaos powers in his super and hyper forms

  • @3lectronX
    @3lectronX 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    dk just obliberated that poor koopa troopa's shell :(

  • @CAT-ut8kh
    @CAT-ut8kh 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did anyone else hear him say "that's why Goku" at 14:03

  • @milkiski
    @milkiski 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video

    • @GamerGuyd7Aces
      @GamerGuyd7Aces  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +James melendez Thanks James! :)

    • @milkiski
      @milkiski 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +GamerGuyd7Aces no problem

  • @ninsidhu
    @ninsidhu 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    That black hole thingy was sucking up every thing even sonic so that could be holding him back

  • @Destroyers007
    @Destroyers007 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    He also says in Sonic Forces to infinite - '' I get more stronger every second! ''

  • @RosheenQuynh
    @RosheenQuynh 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    The tiger beetle is said to be the fastest thing on planet earth (unless my sources are outdated); so much so that it goes blind and must stop just to reorient its own surroundings when it wants to turn. I'd love to see the science behind how Sonic doesn't need to do this. Are his eyes just that amazing or what?

  • @oliviaforrester2983
    @oliviaforrester2983 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    really how can you be sure the flash is time traveling without any help?
    maby his suit increses his speed like super sonic sonic and how can you be sure sonic isn't running at his full speed?

  • @vilebc1665
    @vilebc1665 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    god bles you. someone finaly understands.

  • @atheoang3l0_old44
    @atheoang3l0_old44 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    About the Gnoggin part, apart from the fact that it's a video game, we're also talking about a fictional universe... a world where anthropomorphic animals with special abilities exist. We don't need to be too realistic about it.
    I don't get why people like to say Sonic "outran" the implosion in Colors. Outrunning means being faster than the object you're supposed to outrun, and the implosion was clearly catching up to Sonic. Sonic was indeed fast, but the implosion was faster.
    I like to think the Chaos Emeralds have more in common with the Force (Star Wars) than with the Dragon Balls. Like the Force, the Emeralds give life to living things, have a "positive" and "negative" power, can enhance the user's innate abilities, and can grant them special powers. The Archie comics took this even further with its "Chaos Force" idea.
    Apart from all of that, this is a well-done video. I'm new to your channel, and I'm looking forward to seeing your other videos.

    • @arielblack4633
      @arielblack4633 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The chaos force kinda resembles the flash's speed force, both being a universe realm of pure energy.

  • @spectatostudios9101
    @spectatostudios9101 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like it but I believe Sonic is way faster than the speed of light.

  • @Sonicjan
    @Sonicjan 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Master Emerald also controls the Chaos Emeralds and take the power from them, since they are the "seven servers".

  • @soul9193
    @soul9193 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    he can use choas control only in his super form or he can hold an choas emerald

  • @danieltietz4468
    @danieltietz4468 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    i once heard about a very interessting theory that i want to share its about sonics strongest form ! there a theorist said that its hard to determan the strength of sonics forms since its often changes but one thing is sure all his forms like super hyper or excalibur (just for excampel) are powerd by positiv energy. sonic in total normaly is positiv that means that to balance it all out he has a form out off negativ energy dark sonic. he said that he believes that dark sonic is as strong as all his other forms combined but probablie with a compliet change of his personality more agresive sadistic and brutal than sonic normaly is. i personatly realy like that theory and it would be realy awsome if that would happen

  • @nathanbesse3061
    @nathanbesse3061 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The head of sonic team said that he was around the speed of flash in his base

  • @beastbass1
    @beastbass1 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    But wait what about Sonic battle? I recall that final fight with emerl was another example of sonic fighting at stupidly insane speed as by that point as sonic had potentially 15 seconds (being generous with how much they STILL talk after the 30 seconds mark) to destroy emerl who at that point had the 7 chaos emeralds plus a huge amount of energy from the destroyed start. Needless to say emerl might a been a biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit tough and powerful at this point if his insane moveset didnt already prove that.

  • @bjbradley8071
    @bjbradley8071 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also he is going so fast with supersonic or the other sonics,he is using chaos emeralds as a boost.

  • @unbreakablem7130
    @unbreakablem7130 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    i saw this today. and search on wikipedia about sonic, and i saw that he has a ability called LightSpeed attack.....so he does run faster as the light speed

  • @poppypopplio
    @poppypopplio 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you ask me I think that Sonic's speed is unknown because Sonic never ever really tries. Sonic likes to have fun, he likes danger, he likes a challenge if he went his full speed I'm pretty sure he would get bored super quick. Also Sonic does have chaos control the first time he used it was in Sonic Adventurers 2 also in Sonic 06 he used chaos control to time travel (even though I'm pretty sure he doesn't need to use chaos control to time travel). Sonic even time traveled in Sonic CD multiple times.

  • @GokuSon-ip5ke
    @GokuSon-ip5ke 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No, superman causes devastating collateral damage

  • @nathansos8480
    @nathansos8480 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:02 In this section, CD sonic would run all the way to earth in .0 seconds.

  • @spiffyundertale305ytp3
    @spiffyundertale305ytp3 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    in generations tails states that with sonic and classic sonic they restored the stage giving sonic the speed of light at least

  • @Victor-um9ce
    @Victor-um9ce 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah don't use Death Battle as a source.
    They just want to put numbers on screen while also not giving it a source.

  • @CrystalicDivinty
    @CrystalicDivinty 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh so he doesn't want to because the game would be over in seconds so it would not be a challenge for sonic