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Great work Mr Harari, you are amazing intellectual of our time. Governments/corporates need to ensure that society have plenty of remarkable historians, sociologists and psychologists not just the technocrats and AI robot manufacturers, if we want to save humanity and find solutions to real problems. Mr Harari is doing a wonderful job, but we need many of them in every country and state. There are very few of them in present world.
The problem with fights and wars is due to the fact that in the societies we live in, relationships between people are more competitive than cooperative and not the other way around, as it was at the beginning of human civilization. We live in societies that reward individualism, selfishness, exploitation of others, rather than cooperation and help between individuals.
Enjoyed the gibe that Harari might actually be "worse than us"... I appreciate the conversation, and Harari's unwavering commitment to his principle of speaking his truth no matter how hard it may be. His meditation practice, even if not 'religious', is undoubtedly nurturing his compassion and we need a lot more of that in the world. Without it, the clear thinking Harari espouses and role models is simply not possible - and that is a time-tested, ancient truth that is seldom given the recognition it deserves in the cut and thrust of modern-day intellectual debates.
The reason of slavery and inequality is NOT the human ability to cooperate in large numbers. The reason of these phenomena is the ability and desire of some humans to disunite others by deceiving them
Hmm but wouldn't it take a group of humans to believe in the same story about their own superiority over another group to then cooperate with each other to bring down another group of people? That very action of disuniting others takes believing in certain stories to be true to act upon those ideas.
That's bullshit though. Stories are usually a way to cover and explain the real reasons, which are ultimately the same as for animals. Jerusalem is the perfect example. In the 7th Century AD the Arabs had no spiritual connection to that City. Neither did the Romans. They conquered it anyways even though they had "enough" territory. As if that could ever exist. Same for the Russians. You have to be actually retarded if you believe the war in Ukraine is about something other than territorial expansion and imperial ambitions
@@mindofown no, he didn’t nailed anything with that quote. It’s mind boggling people who gives credit to that guy, cause he’s so wrong on that. People wage wars mainly because of natural resources. Come on, @gzeromedia there’s way better people to be invited. I couldn’t even listen to the whole thing, so lame.
His thoughts on “stories” reminds me of the U.S. Supreme Court ruling 30 or more years ago regarding the “flag burning” issue. The court recognized it as legitimate “free speech” and was not unconstitutional. I don’t know what Justice it was, but in writing about the decision, the Justice talked about the power of “simple crude symbols” (the flag) that have the ability to create strong emotional feelings in human beings.
What interesting will be a discussion between Noah Harari and John Mearsheimer (he has a different view, for instance, of the Russian matter). Thanks for the video, great content.
One of the most constant characteristics of beliefs is their intolerance. The stronger the belief, the greater its intolerance. Men dominated by a certitude cannot tolerate those who do not accept it. So, the masses have never thirsted after truth. They turn aside from evidence that is not to their taste, preferring to deify error, if error seduce them. Whoever can supply them with illusions is easily their master; whoever attempts to destroy their illusions is always their victim.
I can't wait to hear this. I always question when ONE human tries to answer THESE KINDS OF IMPOSSIBLE FOR ONE HUMAN to answer anywhere close to properly, comprehensibly, or for that matters correctly
"You know if you think about the second World War, now we know it started in first of September of 1939 when Germany invaded Poland but if you asked people, let's say, in May 1941, people in New York, people in Stalingrad, people in Hiroshima, it's not World War II. Yes there is a conflict in Europe there are some conflict in Asia, but it's not World War II. Only with hindsight can we say "Oh yeah this is when it stared" We could already be in the midst of World War III, that started in 24 of February in 2022." That is something I never thought about. WW3 could already have started...
Democracy is when those who make decisions on your behalf have the duty to ask for your consent first. Today's republics are actually modern oligarchies where the interest groups of the rich are arbitrated by the people, that is, you can choose from which table of the rich you will receive crumbs. The "fatigue" of democracy occurs when there is a big difference between the interests of the elected and the voters, thus people lose confidence in the way society functions. As a result, poor and desperate citizens will vote with whoever promises them a lifeline, i.e. populists or demagogues. The democratic aspect is a collateral effect in societies where the economy has a strong competitive aspect, that is, the interests of those who hold the economic power in society are divergent. Thus those whealty, and implicitly with political power in society, supervise each other so that none of them have undeserved advantages due to politics. For this reason, countries where mineral resources have an important weight in GDP are not democratic (Russia, Venezuela, etc.), because a small group of people can exploit these resources in their own interest. In poor countries (Romania, Bulgaria, Greece, etc.) the main exploited resource may even be the state budget, as they have convergent interests in benefiting, in their own interest, from this resource. It is easy to see if it is an oligarchy because in a true democracy laws would not be passed that would not be in the interest of the many. The first modern oligarchy appeared in England at the end of the 17th century. After the bourgeois revolution led by Cromwell succeeded, the interest groups of the rich were unable to agree on how to divide their political power in order not to reach the dictatorship of one. The solution was to appoint a king to be the arbiter. In republics, the people are the arbiter, but let's not confuse the possibility of choosing which group will govern you with democracy, that is, with the possibility of citizens deciding which laws to pass and which not to. The solution is modern direct democracy in which every citizen can vote, whenever he wants, over the head of the parliamentarian who represents him. He can even dismiss him if the majority of his voters consider that he does not correctly represent their interests. It's like when you have to build a house and you choose the site manager and the architect, but they don't have the duty to consult with you. The house will certainly not look the way you want it, but the way they want it, and it is more certain that you will be left with the money given and without the house. It is strange that outside of the political sphere, nowhere, in any economic or sports activity, will you find someone elected to a leadership position and who has failure after failure and is not fired after 4 years. We, the voters, must be consulted about the decisions and if they have negative effects we can dismiss them at any time, let's not wait for the soroco to be fulfilled, because we pay, not them. In any company, the management team comes up with a plan approved by the shareholders. Any change in this plan must be re-approved by the shareholders and it is normal because the shareholders pay.
We engage in conflicts for the same primal reasons as animals over territory and resources, not stories yet we create narratives to rationalize our wars, convincing ourselves that we are driven by higher purposes rather than mere animalistic instincts.
All of a sudden Harari forgot about Israel’s constant theft of Palestinian land, and the Iraqi and Afgan invasions. What selective memory you have! Or is it that you are trying to assert your patently false stories on us?
Isaiah 5:20 KJV - Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
2:00 haha, that's so funny. I guessed humans were the single most dangerous animals to humans and I was correct. Of course, mosquitos are the only non-human animals that kill the most humans, but I didn't exclude humans from my mental category of animals. 😅
It did not kill me… Grown up with mosquitos …meds taken…stopped horrible mds for they would stop on the tongue and no matter how much water I drank accompanied with grimaces…Then, I became very sick but managed to hide it from everyone . I got better as I never stopped eating. Mosquitos did not kill me. * Gee…QUITE FAIR ON PALESTINE / ISRAEL situation. Good on you today !
The world is not fair because there are many people like him in the world. Foe example, when he is talking about annexation is Russian annexation not Israeli annexation.
“We tell each other stories” has been used to define everything from geopolitics to filmmaking. It’s a thought cliche* that needs to be retired. *phrase per Jacques Barzun
He’s playing Peter Sellers as our Chauncy of XXIst, “There will be growth in the spring” Profound! Citing invasion as wrong, because you’re stronger, even as Israel collapses tower after chock-o-block buildings of white-flag and peace symbol draped apartments is tragic irony. He’s not so bright. He’s just anointed by select powerful looking for the latest secular-priest to preach their elitist nostrums: the Fool, the Thinker/Philosopher, he’s the Court Clown. You gave him a stage. Yawn.
Not sure I understood Bremmer's parting shot about Harari being better than everyone else. It came across to me as a slight. I doubt that Bremmer read Harari's book (the one for adults), because if he did, he'd know the Harari became veganish [sic] when his research for the book revealed the gross mistreatment of animals raised for food. The world would be a much better place if more people had the courage to do what is obviously better for animals, the planet and themselves.
Original? You read his books? I have. They are very insightful. The originality question is a bit complex because he, like many people have this problem where they figure out something important and then keeps repeating the same thing. Elon has his space fairing humanity bit, Harari has this thing about Stories and AI, Ray Kurzweil and his Expontetials, Joe Rogan has Elk, DMT, Chimps and Bears and so on. They are all definitely original in their own right, only repetitive.
The thing with this guy is that he never debated an intelligent person. And he will never do it cause he will get cancelled. So,that was a kindergarten talk
There is always an ideology to justify more power, territory, money etc. Ideology is not the main reason why conflicts happen. Ideology is used as an operating system for flexible cooperation true that but the main reasons are always primal in nature.
Enjoying to read this comment section while people are still commenting on the actual context of the video before the religious and/or right-wing loons appear
this was awesome but i would have really enjoyed a kind of a podcast format with hours of back and forth between both of them speaking their minds on similar interests
@4:44 we don´t fight over land or food but because of ideas... @7:00 we can´t protect kids from the violence so we shouldn´t protect them from the information about it...
Mr NOAH Everyone of us is responsible for the present condition. Please Remember to enlighten everyone of us should learn to develop humility Compassion gratitude Forgiveness Obeying the Command LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR AS THYSELF " "DISCERN " With Healthy Relationships and Healthy Boundaries with Respect Responsibility Resilience Relience HONESTY with Integrity Discipline and Order Discernment Unconditional emotional support with patience FOCUSED COMMITTED attitude Perseverance implemented in one's own life and brought up from the beginning of the day 1 of every child needs parenting Caring Sharing with one's own life and One another in every one of us implemented in all educational institutions including all universities Globally ESSENTIAL. Please think wisely Act wisely.
I think he is very biased and embarrassed because he cannot justify what his country is doing to children and civilians in terms of mass murder in Gaza after the new Holocaust practiced against the Palestinian people. This man began to appear a lot, not as a thinker, but in order to ease the pressure on the brutal crimes committed by his country. It is true that he is a deep thinker but he is deep in the wrong direction
Growth is always unequal - people never discover new sources of prosperity as a collective. Moaning about it and extolling the virtues of redistribution is rent-seeking behavior, pure and simple.
The God of the individual is strong with this one .. all individuals & corporations rely on communal infrastructure - built & social: how to calculate what each ought pay towards that; what share of the gains ought reasonably be distributed? And do you know nothing of human nature? Or that of many animals actually? Morality is based on fairness, a recognition that consistent maldistribution causes jealousy, resentment & violence. Sharing, therefore, is self preservation. Morality is sumply a codification of norms arising from deep recognition of the reality of human behaviour. Check out studies of animal behaviour in sharing, fairness etc to expand your very narrow view, i dare you.
I see here Hypocrisy at it highest level! Russia vs Ukrainian is bad, but when it comes to Israel occupying Palestinian just because it is stronger and it can is ok. Hmmm
It was pre-homo sapiens collaboration with pre-modern dogs that drove both to evolve to modern species. Collaboratively delegating, bald, pale, humans that are less able to survive in Canadian woods than model quantum interactions, are not the sapiens that emerged from caves. We never would have evolved into homo-sapiens, delegating traits and even physical protection from the elements to another species, nor settled into civilizations if we hadnt evolved WITH dogs.
@@tonyesfandiari2123 he is portrayed in the fawning media as the wise man with wonderful insights. Scratch the surface and you will find in his utterances inconsistencies and double standards.
I'm curious really stating it takes 5% of the global budget is an un-baised claim. the problem is way more complex than simply putting a x price tag and that's the problem with his ideas generally
Harari misinterprets "collaboration" and think the world has advanced through it. After all, in ancient times, one individual human couldn't bring down a mammoth alone. However, even in hunting a mammoth in the past, it's the individual human who could plan for it. It's the planning of individuals that matter in human progress, not the physical, later collaborations. Harari also repeats this fallacy in his book, Sapiens, and asserts a number of other fallacies, for calls corporations, money, etc as myths, in a book that was supposed to be about history, not personal, often erroneous assertions. We very rarely reward groups of people, we reward individuals. The money that Mr Harari has been making through his selling of his personal assertions isn't a myth, it's real. Based on imperial data, the more you separate individuals, the more successful the society becomes and the more technological and scientific progress it achieves. Immediate, collective collaborations is probably the one factor that brings the evil side of humans out. It's the collective individual human creativities, and technological achievements that are handed down and recorded for the next individuals that matter and deeply confuses Mr Harari.
Democracy is flawed when it comes to producing an informed popular mandate. Traditionally, that's why it isn't used to produced mandates. That's what the representatives are for. (Advised by their authorities, popular, professional, academic or otherwise.) Democracy is better understood as a method of holding representatives accountable to the governed. I prefer to frame my criticism of democracy (as currently constructed) as failing in regards to holding governing elites accountable, and failing to produce a new generation of political and business leaders. The idea that democracy (as currently constructed) is functioning as a fair gauge of popular sentiment, producing a popular mandate that the average person can understand, is more than a little misguided! I'm not sure who's still doing that in what part of the world. This misconception, and partial understanding of democracy is part of the problem. When it comes to holding power to account, even the naming of the problem is challenging, and often overlooked, by some.
He is selective about the 'rules based order' but what about the numerous interventions of America throughout the world. What about France and niger? The world order HAS to change to include the global South to get the world better regulated. The rules should reflect THE REALITY😮
His comment on defense spending dropping from 50% of a nations budget …just think of the internal problems America could solve with say 10 or 15% of what it spends on military
Another lie. Any social media algorithm (as well as AI) has a host/creator and they can be stopped any time. The problem is that these hosts/creators do not wish to stop them because they bring them money.
The lie is that a person like Yuval Harari - if he really wanted to stop the dangerous process - would say "we should stop it" rather than "we can't stop it". @@@lawrencefrost9063
I am not sure it is relevant but AI cannot invent something new It can get all current knowledge and reconnect it in a new way to meet our current requirement Maybe this is what we are capable?
Noah's main idea is that 'humans have made these stories and so humans can change them', but root of these ideas for their believers are Holy, given by God. Secular persons agrees with Noah but not any believers. So as Weber points out the most fundamental change happens when religion changes in a society. A real transformation, such it took place and gave birth to many civilization of the past... Perhaps such a world changing belief is already spreading around the world preaching: Oneness of Religion! Oneness of Humanity! The World is but One country and mankind its citizen. Perhaps new stories are already being told and in time they will come to fruition.
Deuteronomy 23:17 KJV - There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel. 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 KJV - Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
How predictable of lost human beings. That by cooperating we conquer what we set our minds to do; and also eventually deceive ourselves that we therefore don't need our Creator. Nothing new under the sun though; Ref: Tower of Babel.
Harari can pull any abstraction out of his back and sound deep. It is absurd to talk about how life is unfair and gloss over the genocide his country is carrying out. Nonsense, for kids.
While i agree to many points he promoted, Harari seems to ignore the fact that the world order we know of has already been disturbed since his own country has been engaged in illegal activities like occupation, annexation and racial discrimination since over 75 years, with the current genocide on Gaza as a cherry on the top of a non-law based world disorder. If Harari used Russia-Ukraine as the event triggering a new world 'order' due to invasion and Russia misusing its power, he is not objective because he doesn't see the illegal issues in Gaza, west bank and other places perpetrated by his country, misusing all the military and tech to kill people, and diplomatic and political power it has to evade any international applicable laws. Having 2 different standards at the same time, means he is not objective and even not credible in political matters. With all due respect
Yuval focus only on the story aspect. But the convenience (based on culture, language etc.), and affinity to closer genes are other dimension of grouping. At the end grouping happens to secure resources. I view him like my teacher. I learned a lot of new ways of thinking from him. But on AI, in my humble opinion he is wrong. AI has the ability to give us abundance and also group is together.
Someone liked your comment on social media. Oh, really? Who was that? That will cost you $2.- And I thought that social media would be somewhat inclined to act socially.
Yes he told somethings very clearly but right wrong is different from his thinking because another perepective he not seems because yhere is also new perspectives still to see... so his addressing problems and clearly give double code is super
I object to the use of the general words "humanity" and 'humans" and "people" when clearly who you are talking about is MEN. The blame needs to be put where it belongs, and it NEVER is. If nature had the same priorities as MEN, all life on this planet would have ended long, long ago.
Love Ian not so much the other guy in that he ascribes to this color blind thing that others who apparently deny the human condition which eliminates the ENTIRE premise of color blind from the start. That DOESN'T MEAN I'M saying humans can't be without racism. That I find especially easy. What I'M saying is when i see a white ,black, yellow blue car, human, animal etc .... immediately I see a blue car, blue human or blue animal. It's VERY EASY for me to not place a human above or below the rest due to said noticed color BUT WE ALL NOTICE THE damn COLOR! To deny this, to present some alternative REALITY where this wouldn't occur is utter NONSENSE. Well Yuri wrote an entire book on this NONSENSE, IMPOSSIBLE TO PULL OFF BY HUMANS, premise solving racism... Yeah .... Thinking even a small % of HUMANS could be colorblind, as in, NOT NOTICE THE COLOR OF A THING, OBJECT, PERSON..... Is NAIVE to the point that I worry for said person being allowed in public WITHOUT supervision.
Climate Change is a serious global problem and we must stop using fossil fuels! There is a near infinite supply of energy in the molecules of water. The present reaction to split water is by electrolysis that takes more energy than it produces. A micro/nano particle reaction that uses Bismuth ferrite negative meta material will produce a water splitting ultraviolet radiation, that will split water and produce a liquid-phase plasma energy.
"politicians should be allowed to say stupid things in their private life" is he trying to trivilaize the genocidal statements made by israeli politicians in speeches n social media?
we could be cooperating, but the current "global order" refuses to get out of the way and allow it to happen. it doesnt take an expert to figure that out. yuval is definitely clueless.
Please, here is a second comment, but what I think Israel is not understanding and what is getting in the way of getting along with her neighbors is that the Palestinian people for example, are so opposite Israeli people and these major differences can boil over into conflicts and although they believe in other religious stories and analyze situations in completely different ways than Israelis, one can learn to accept these chasms of misunderstanding. Be kind to each other no matter what anyone says. This is where Israel has to step back and realize that the way to go ahead now is to not over-react to the mindset of a people like the Palestinians that differs to such a degree, it is to try and accept that the gift the Palestinians are offering is to make Israelis kinder and be more open to other ways of thinking in spite of the wall of mistrust that divides the two peoples. What is the way ahead? Water down the mountain is my philosophy; the path of least resistance. What is needed is to create something from the ashes of the current war that will show the world how to put an end to warring factions of neighboring countries. What is it that could be created? Yuval, Ian, I have said it before, so please bear with me to say it again. The way to peace in the middle east is to build nature reserves for endangered species of plant, animal and aquatic life. All religious groups, all peoples respect one thing more than anything else and will never outwardly destroy it: nature. Here is the solution: rescue nature in the middle east and you rescue a peace that I truly believe will be our legacy and last for centuries. One square kilometer of land could be enough to start transforming burned out buildings into sanctuaries where endangered faun and fauna can survive and thrive...
I wonder if your proposal works with a social order of predominantly narcissistic personality types? They care little for nature as it nurtures…it is only there to somehow capitalize on for personal gain?
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Great work Mr Harari, you are amazing intellectual of our time. Governments/corporates need to ensure that society have plenty of remarkable historians, sociologists and psychologists not just the technocrats and AI robot manufacturers, if we want to save humanity and find solutions to real problems. Mr Harari is doing a wonderful job, but we need many of them in every country and state. There are very few of them in present world.
The problem with fights and wars is due to the fact that in the societies we live in, relationships between people are more competitive than cooperative and not the other way around, as it was at the beginning of human civilization. We live in societies that reward individualism, selfishness, exploitation of others, rather than cooperation and help between individuals.
That's what's being fed to our minds by the masters of war.
Enjoyed the gibe that Harari might actually be "worse than us"... I appreciate the conversation, and Harari's unwavering commitment to his principle of speaking his truth no matter how hard it may be. His meditation practice, even if not 'religious', is undoubtedly nurturing his compassion and we need a lot more of that in the world. Without it, the clear thinking Harari espouses and role models is simply not possible - and that is a time-tested, ancient truth that is seldom given the recognition it deserves in the cut and thrust of modern-day intellectual debates.
The reason of slavery and inequality is NOT the human ability to cooperate in large numbers. The reason of these phenomena is the ability and desire of some humans to disunite others by deceiving them
Hmm but wouldn't it take a group of humans to believe in the same story about their own superiority over another group to then cooperate with each other to bring down another group of people? That very action of disuniting others takes believing in certain stories to be true to act upon those ideas.
Nailed it "People fight over stories in their minds"
That's bullshit though.
Stories are usually a way to cover and explain the real reasons, which are ultimately the same as for animals.
Jerusalem is the perfect example. In the 7th Century AD the Arabs had no spiritual connection to that City.
Neither did the Romans. They conquered it anyways even though they had "enough" territory. As if that could ever exist.
Same for the Russians. You have to be actually retarded if you believe the war in Ukraine is about something other than territorial expansion and imperial ambitions
The World Is Made of Stories
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@@mindofown no, he didn’t nailed anything with that quote. It’s mind boggling people who gives credit to that guy, cause he’s so wrong on that. People wage wars mainly because of natural resources. Come on, @gzeromedia there’s way better people to be invited. I couldn’t even listen to the whole thing, so lame.
@@joaoraja and where does that narrative about the need for another persons resources come from if not the mind? you are young there's a lot to learn
@@joaorajaI feel you are right.
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He's right. People fight over ideals, beliefs......
Yawn!
His thoughts on “stories” reminds me of the U.S. Supreme Court ruling 30 or more years ago regarding the “flag burning” issue. The court recognized it as legitimate “free speech” and was not unconstitutional. I don’t know what Justice it was, but in writing about the decision, the Justice talked about the power of “simple crude symbols” (the flag) that have the ability to create strong emotional feelings in human beings.
What interesting will be a discussion between Noah Harari and John Mearsheimer (he has a different view, for instance, of the Russian matter). Thanks for the video, great content.
May we all have AGI's with Harari's grace.
“Part of preserving privacy is to preserve the right for stupidity…. [we] should have the right to say stupid and terrible things in private.”
One of the most constant characteristics of beliefs is their intolerance. The stronger the belief, the greater its intolerance. Men dominated by a certitude cannot tolerate those who do not accept it. So, the masses have never thirsted after truth. They turn aside from evidence that is not to their taste, preferring to deify error, if error seduce them. Whoever can supply them with illusions is easily their master; whoever attempts to destroy their illusions is always their victim.
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"DISCERN"
I hope Dr. Bremmer and Dr. Harari will record another talk either live or online. 2 hours would be more like it.
I can't wait to hear this. I always question when ONE human tries to answer THESE KINDS OF IMPOSSIBLE FOR ONE HUMAN to answer anywhere close to properly, comprehensibly, or for that matters correctly
Agree... We as a species manufacture both fears & happiness & don't as a whole choose between both.
2 of my favorite thoughtful minds
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@@kavorka8855 I feel sorry for you feeling sorry for @ggalan212.
(Well, not really. I think you’re idiot for your remark 😊)
@@kavorka8855my thoughts exactly
Yuval Harari MADNESS !!! WHY DO MAD PEOPLE WANT TO LEAD US, WHERE THEY WILL TAKE US???
BIG TECH PRISON PLANET
"You know if you think about the second World War, now we know it started in first of September of 1939 when Germany invaded Poland but if you asked people, let's say, in May 1941, people in New York, people in Stalingrad, people in Hiroshima, it's not World War II. Yes there is a conflict in Europe there are some conflict in Asia, but it's not World War II. Only with hindsight can we say "Oh yeah this is when it stared" We could already be in the midst of World War III, that started in 24 of February in 2022."
That is something I never thought about. WW3 could already have started...
Great and insightful interview with Harari👍also like the humor that Ian put in his last question and comment
Love Ian and his teams content.
Democracy is when those who make decisions on your behalf have the duty to ask for your consent first. Today's republics are actually modern oligarchies where the interest groups of the rich are arbitrated by the people, that is, you can choose from which table of the rich you will receive crumbs.
The "fatigue" of democracy occurs when there is a big difference between the interests of the elected and the voters, thus people lose confidence in the way society functions. As a result, poor and desperate citizens will vote with whoever promises them a lifeline, i.e. populists or demagogues.
The democratic aspect is a collateral effect in societies where the economy has a strong competitive aspect, that is, the interests of those who hold the economic power in society are divergent. Thus those whealty, and implicitly with political power in society, supervise each other so that none of them have undeserved advantages due to politics. For this reason, countries where mineral resources have an important weight in GDP are not democratic (Russia, Venezuela, etc.), because a small group of people can exploit these resources in their own interest. In poor countries (Romania, Bulgaria, Greece, etc.) the main exploited resource may even be the state budget, as they have convergent interests in benefiting, in their own interest, from this resource. It is easy to see if it is an oligarchy because in a true democracy laws would not be passed that would not be in the interest of the many.
The first modern oligarchy appeared in England at the end of the 17th century. After the bourgeois revolution led by Cromwell succeeded, the interest groups of the rich were unable to agree on how to divide their political power in order not to reach the dictatorship of one. The solution was to appoint a king to be the arbiter. In republics, the people are the arbiter, but let's not confuse the possibility of choosing which group will govern you with democracy, that is, with the possibility of citizens deciding which laws to pass and which not to.
The solution is modern direct democracy in which every citizen can vote, whenever he wants, over the head of the parliamentarian who represents him. He can even dismiss him if the majority of his voters consider that he does not correctly represent their interests.
It's like when you have to build a house and you choose the site manager and the architect, but they don't have the duty to consult with you. The house will certainly not look the way you want it, but the way they want it, and it is more certain that you will be left with the money given and without the house. It is strange that outside of the political sphere, nowhere, in any economic or sports activity, will you find someone elected to a leadership position and who has failure after failure and is not fired after 4 years. We, the voters, must be consulted about the decisions and if they have negative effects we can dismiss them at any time, let's not wait for the soroco to be fulfilled, because we pay, not them. In any company, the management team comes up with a plan approved by the shareholders. Any change in this plan must be re-approved by the shareholders and it is normal because the shareholders pay.
We engage in conflicts for the same primal reasons as animals over territory and resources, not stories yet we create narratives to rationalize our wars, convincing ourselves that we are driven by higher purposes rather than mere animalistic instincts.
Basically future is organic vs inorganic
Excellent
Don't talk with bots, don't use social media - it's easy.
All of a sudden Harari forgot about Israel’s constant theft of Palestinian land, and the Iraqi and Afgan invasions. What selective memory you have! Or is it that you are trying to assert your patently false stories on us?
Isaiah 5:20 KJV - Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
03:26 *📚 Harari's childhood concerns. *
05:49 *🌍 Stories fuel conflicts. *
08:14 *🌐 Human power to change. *
09:12 *🤖 AI's unprecedented impact. *
10:42 *📜 AI creating ideological stories. *
13:10 *🌐 Social weapon risks. *
15:08 *🌐 Russia's invasion impact. *
17:34 *🇮🇱 Changing Middle East narrative. *
18:35 *✌️ Coexistence perspective. *
20:38 *🧘♂️ Mind care practices.*
21:09 *🧠 Social media hacks emotions. *
22:08 *🤐 Preserve privacy and stupidity. *
22:37 *👏 Yuval's humorous response.*
Made with HARPA AI
2:00 haha, that's so funny. I guessed humans were the single most dangerous animals to humans and I was correct. Of course, mosquitos are the only non-human animals that kill the most humans, but I didn't exclude humans from my mental category of animals. 😅
It did not kill me… Grown up with mosquitos …meds taken…stopped horrible mds for they would stop on the tongue and no matter how much water I drank accompanied with grimaces…Then, I became very sick but managed to hide it from everyone . I got better as I never stopped eating. Mosquitos did not kill me.
* Gee…QUITE FAIR ON PALESTINE / ISRAEL situation. Good on you today !
There is a spelling mistake in the subtitles at 9.46 , it should be can instead of can't
I love you Yuvi
I am, of course, watching this on a cell phone.
He codemns the Russians for "annexing" does he also condemn the illegal Israeli settler expansion ?
Yes. He did it many times, for example, in his conversation with Sam Harris.
Yes
Yes
Of course not. What's right for me, is never right for you. "It's not you, it's not me, it's all because of the guy hiding up the tree."
He is human like everyone else
The world is not fair because there are many people like him in the world. Foe example, when he is talking about annexation is Russian annexation not Israeli annexation.
“We tell each other stories” has been used to define everything from geopolitics to filmmaking. It’s a thought cliche* that needs to be retired. *phrase per Jacques Barzun
1 John 5:3 KJV - For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
Unfortunately the video title is pretty misleading
He’s playing Peter Sellers as our Chauncy of XXIst, “There will be growth in the spring” Profound!
Citing invasion as wrong, because you’re stronger, even as Israel collapses tower after chock-o-block buildings of white-flag and peace symbol draped apartments is tragic irony. He’s not so bright. He’s just anointed by select powerful looking for the latest secular-priest to preach their elitist nostrums: the Fool, the Thinker/Philosopher, he’s the Court Clown.
You gave him a stage. Yawn.
Not sure I understood Bremmer's parting shot about Harari being better than everyone else. It came across to me as a slight. I doubt that Bremmer read Harari's book (the one for adults), because if he did, he'd know the Harari became veganish [sic] when his research for the book revealed the gross mistreatment of animals raised for food. The world would be a much better place if more people had the courage to do what is obviously better for animals, the planet and themselves.
blessed.
What's so incredibly original about Harari's insights? He's overpraised af.
Original? You read his books? I have. They are very insightful. The originality question is a bit complex because he, like many people have this problem where they figure out something important and then keeps repeating the same thing. Elon has his space fairing humanity bit, Harari has this thing about Stories and AI, Ray Kurzweil and his Expontetials, Joe Rogan has Elk, DMT, Chimps and Bears and so on. They are all definitely original in their own right, only repetitive.
The thing with this guy is that he never debated an intelligent person. And he will never do it cause he will get cancelled. So,that was a kindergarten talk
There is always an ideology to justify more power, territory, money etc. Ideology is not the main reason why conflicts happen. Ideology is used as an operating system for flexible cooperation true that but the main reasons are always primal in nature.
Enjoying to read this comment section while people are still commenting on the actual context of the video before the religious and/or right-wing loons appear
this was awesome but i would have really enjoyed a kind of a podcast format with hours of back and forth between both of them speaking their minds on similar interests
Just fyi there is a podcast with the full version of the interviews that appear here. It's called GZERO World Podcast.
@@something4114I believe this was the full interview between the two.
@@something4114 oh thanks! i didnt think to check spotify
at one point it comes to my mind that this is yuval noah talking or any Ai
@4:44 we don´t fight over land or food but because of ideas... @7:00 we can´t protect kids from the violence so we shouldn´t protect them from the information about it...
Adam Smith said it first in regards to human interaction.
Mr NOAH
Everyone of us is responsible for the present condition.
Please Remember to enlighten everyone of us should learn to develop humility Compassion gratitude Forgiveness Obeying the Command
LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR AS THYSELF "
"DISCERN "
With Healthy Relationships and Healthy Boundaries with Respect Responsibility Resilience Relience HONESTY with Integrity Discipline and Order Discernment Unconditional emotional support with patience FOCUSED COMMITTED attitude Perseverance implemented in one's own life and brought up from the beginning of the day 1 of every child needs parenting Caring Sharing with one's own life and One another in every one of us implemented in all educational institutions including all universities Globally ESSENTIAL.
Please think wisely Act wisely.
Why don't he talk about Israel stealing of palistinean land
I think he is very biased and embarrassed because he cannot justify what his country is doing to children and civilians in terms of mass murder in Gaza after the new Holocaust practiced against the Palestinian people. This man began to appear a lot, not as a thinker, but in order to ease the pressure on the brutal crimes committed by his country. It is true that he is a deep thinker but he is deep in the wrong direction
It’s all stories. Turtles on turtles. It’s okay not to be right.
Growth is always unequal - people never discover new sources of prosperity as a collective. Moaning about it and extolling the virtues of redistribution is rent-seeking behavior, pure and simple.
The God of the individual is strong with this one .. all individuals & corporations rely on communal infrastructure - built & social: how to calculate what each ought pay towards that; what share of the gains ought reasonably be distributed?
And do you know nothing of human nature? Or that of many animals actually? Morality is based on fairness, a recognition that consistent maldistribution causes jealousy, resentment & violence.
Sharing, therefore, is self preservation.
Morality is sumply a codification of norms arising from deep recognition of the reality of human behaviour.
Check out studies of animal behaviour in sharing, fairness etc to expand your very narrow view, i dare you.
I like Harari.
Bremmer gets on my nerves.
Truly.
Artificial intelligence can a monster that can incapacitate, cripple and make humanity captive of its madness and mechanical whims.
Very very very dangerous man.
I see here Hypocrisy at it highest level! Russia vs Ukrainian is bad, but when it comes to Israel occupying Palestinian just because it is stronger and it can is ok. Hmmm
It was pre-homo sapiens collaboration with pre-modern dogs that drove both to evolve to modern species. Collaboratively delegating, bald, pale, humans that are less able to survive in Canadian woods than model quantum interactions, are not the sapiens that emerged from caves. We never would have evolved into homo-sapiens, delegating traits and even physical protection from the elements to another species, nor settled into civilizations if we hadnt evolved WITH dogs.
Hasn't Israel done exactly that what Harari is accusing Russia of doing? Not at all!!!!😂
Double standards- he must be American
@@tonyesfandiari2123 he is portrayed in the fawning media as the wise man with wonderful insights. Scratch the surface and you will find in his utterances inconsistencies and double standards.
I'm curious really stating it takes 5% of the global budget is an un-baised claim.
the problem is way more complex than simply putting a x price tag and that's the problem with his ideas generally
Harari misinterprets "collaboration" and think the world has advanced through it. After all, in ancient times, one individual human couldn't bring down a mammoth alone. However, even in hunting a mammoth in the past, it's the individual human who could plan for it. It's the planning of individuals that matter in human progress, not the physical, later collaborations.
Harari also repeats this fallacy in his book, Sapiens, and asserts a number of other fallacies, for calls corporations, money, etc as myths, in a book that was supposed to be about history, not personal, often erroneous assertions.
We very rarely reward groups of people, we reward individuals. The money that Mr Harari has been making through his selling of his personal assertions isn't a myth, it's real.
Based on imperial data, the more you separate individuals, the more successful the society becomes and the more technological and scientific progress it achieves.
Immediate, collective collaborations is probably the one factor that brings the evil side of humans out. It's the collective individual human creativities, and technological achievements that are handed down and recorded for the next individuals that matter and deeply confuses Mr Harari.
Yuval Noah Harari, the blind leading the blind! Let me guess, he's outta of Jerusalem?
You never asked the most important humanitarian question about the Middle East “ the genocide “ that’s happening now . Maybe next time
People fight over stories, but people also fight over resources. I am not convinced by his assertion.
Democracy is flawed when it comes to producing an informed popular mandate.
Traditionally, that's why it isn't used to produced mandates. That's what the representatives are for. (Advised by their authorities, popular, professional, academic or otherwise.)
Democracy is better understood as a method of holding representatives accountable to the governed.
I prefer to frame my criticism of democracy (as currently constructed) as failing in regards to holding governing elites accountable, and failing to produce a new generation of political and business leaders.
The idea that democracy (as currently constructed) is functioning as a fair gauge of popular sentiment, producing a popular mandate that the average person can understand, is more than a little misguided! I'm not sure who's still doing that in what part of the world.
This misconception, and partial understanding of democracy is part of the problem. When it comes to holding power to account, even the naming of the problem is challenging, and often overlooked, by some.
He is selective about the 'rules based order' but what about the numerous interventions of America throughout the world. What about France and niger? The world order HAS to change to include the global South to get the world better regulated. The rules should reflect THE REALITY😮
His comment on defense spending dropping from 50% of a nations budget …just think of the internal problems America could solve with say 10 or 15% of what it spends on military
Another lie. Any social media algorithm (as well as AI) has a host/creator and they can be stopped any time. The problem is that these hosts/creators do not wish to stop them because they bring them money.
What lie? When you say it can be done but it won't be done because of incentives, you are saying it can't actually be done. Not really.
The lie is that a person like Yuval Harari - if he really wanted to stop the dangerous process - would say "we should stop it" rather than "we can't stop it". @@@lawrencefrost9063
I am not sure it is relevant but AI cannot invent something new
It can get all current knowledge and reconnect it in a new way to meet our current requirement
Maybe this is what we are capable?
Noah's main idea is that 'humans have made these stories and so humans can change them', but root of these ideas for their believers are Holy, given by God. Secular persons agrees with Noah but not any believers. So as Weber points out the most fundamental change happens when religion changes in a society. A real transformation, such it took place and gave birth to many civilization of the past... Perhaps such a world changing belief is already spreading around the world preaching: Oneness of Religion! Oneness of Humanity! The World is but One country and mankind its citizen. Perhaps new stories are already being told and in time they will come to fruition.
Au contraire. The World is totally fair. We just don't like the results.
Deuteronomy 23:17 KJV - There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 KJV - Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
I Am illiterate in Digital media.
My son of your age gets angry to help me.
📍15:00
Are you fare Mr.Harari .Your book is like Animal Farm by George Orwell .
How predictable of lost human beings. That by cooperating we conquer what we set our minds to do; and also eventually deceive ourselves that we therefore don't need our Creator. Nothing new under the sun though; Ref: Tower of Babel.
Harari can pull any abstraction out of his back and sound deep. It is absurd to talk about how life is unfair and gloss over the genocide his country is carrying out. Nonsense, for kids.
4:44 you fight with old people, young people, your neighbor, the person who nicks you 5 fucking times trying to parallel park…. Really? 😂
While i agree to many points he promoted, Harari seems to ignore the fact that the world order we know of has already been disturbed since his own country has been engaged in illegal activities like occupation, annexation and racial discrimination since over 75 years, with the current genocide on Gaza as a cherry on the top of a non-law based world disorder. If Harari used Russia-Ukraine as the event triggering a new world 'order' due to invasion and Russia misusing its power, he is not objective because he doesn't see the illegal issues in Gaza, west bank and other places perpetrated by his country, misusing all the military and tech to kill people, and diplomatic and political power it has to evade any international applicable laws. Having 2 different standards at the same time, means he is not objective and even not credible in political matters. With all due respect
Yuval focus only on the story aspect. But the convenience (based on culture, language etc.), and affinity to closer genes are other dimension of grouping. At the end grouping happens to secure resources. I view him like my teacher. I learned a lot of new ways of thinking from him. But on AI, in my humble opinion he is wrong. AI has the ability to give us abundance and also group is together.
True but we are not sure if we can have under our full control.
I visited jerusalem and it is, in many respects, the worst place i have visited worldwide. I don't wish to return to israel.
Why is it the worst place? Too many nutty people?
Saoirse don Phalaistín. Tiodfaidh bhúr lá... from Ireland
Maybe Harari should have told the USA too not to invade other countries. Remember Iraq? The list is long
People fight over resources not stories
There is some things that are necessary to live.
To pretend that it is all stories is very limited thinking
This whole spiel about AI controlling the narrative is pure science fiction.
4:47
I had a feeling that the guy was smart,
Someone liked your comment on social media.
Oh, really? Who was that?
That will cost you $2.-
And I thought that social media would be somewhat inclined to act socially.
Yes he told somethings very clearly but right wrong is different from his thinking because another perepective he not seems because yhere is also new perspectives still to see... so his addressing problems and clearly give double code is super
I object to the use of the general words "humanity" and 'humans" and "people" when clearly who you are talking about is MEN. The blame needs to be put where it belongs, and it NEVER is. If nature had the same priorities as MEN, all life on this planet would have ended long, long ago.
Love Ian not so much the other guy in that he ascribes to this color blind thing that others who apparently deny the human condition which eliminates the ENTIRE premise of color blind from the start. That DOESN'T MEAN I'M saying humans can't be without racism. That I find especially easy. What I'M saying is when i see a white ,black, yellow blue car, human, animal etc .... immediately I see a blue car, blue human or blue animal. It's VERY EASY for me to not place a human above or below the rest due to said noticed color BUT WE ALL NOTICE THE damn COLOR! To deny this, to present some alternative REALITY where this wouldn't occur is utter NONSENSE. Well Yuri wrote an entire book on this NONSENSE, IMPOSSIBLE TO PULL OFF BY HUMANS, premise solving racism... Yeah .... Thinking even a small % of HUMANS could be colorblind, as in, NOT NOTICE THE COLOR OF A THING, OBJECT, PERSON..... Is NAIVE to the point that I worry for said person being allowed in public WITHOUT supervision.
Here’s how you deal with ai
don’t make it
Climate Change is a serious global problem and we must stop using fossil fuels! There is a near infinite supply of energy in the molecules of water. The present reaction to split water is by electrolysis that takes more energy than it produces.
A micro/nano particle reaction that uses Bismuth ferrite negative meta material will produce a water splitting ultraviolet radiation, that will split water and produce a liquid-phase plasma energy.
lol
"politicians should be allowed to say stupid things in their private life"
is he trying to trivilaize the genocidal statements made by israeli politicians in speeches n social media?
we could be cooperating, but the current "global order" refuses to get out of the way and allow it to happen. it doesnt take an expert to figure that out. yuval is definitely clueless.
Not the right venue for Harari.
Please, here is a second comment, but what I think Israel is not understanding and what is getting in the way of getting along with her neighbors is that the Palestinian people for example, are so opposite Israeli people and these major differences can boil over into conflicts and although they believe in other religious stories and analyze situations in completely different ways than Israelis, one can learn to accept these chasms of misunderstanding. Be kind to each other no matter what anyone says. This is where Israel has to step back and realize that the way to go ahead now is to not over-react to the mindset of a people like the Palestinians that differs to such a degree, it is to try and accept that the gift the Palestinians are offering is to make Israelis kinder and be more open to other ways of thinking in spite of the wall of mistrust that divides the two peoples. What is the way ahead? Water down the mountain is my philosophy; the path of least resistance. What is needed is to create something from the ashes of the current war that will show the world how to put an end to warring factions of neighboring countries. What is it that could be created? Yuval, Ian, I have said it before, so please bear with me to say it again. The way to peace in the middle east is to build nature reserves for endangered species of plant, animal and aquatic life. All religious groups, all peoples respect one thing more than anything else and will never outwardly destroy it: nature. Here is the solution: rescue nature in the middle east and you rescue a peace that I truly believe will be our legacy and last for centuries. One square kilometer of land could be enough to start transforming burned out buildings into sanctuaries where endangered faun and fauna can survive and thrive...
I wonder if your proposal works with a social order of predominantly narcissistic personality types? They care little for nature as it nurtures…it is only there to somehow capitalize on for personal gain?
Yuval Noah is nice but he talks a lot of crap ... like when he talks about AI especially
Iraq wmd APartheid in Palestine ok but no no not Russia
er killo er nuval empari harari