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Duh why TF would gamers give a shit about subscriptions. They can 💦 off. Pretty much none of us want subscriptions. It's just another version of live service online only crap
Exactly then that Ubisoft exec shouldn't be pissed off if I decide to pirate star wars outlaws instead of paying it. After all according to him I don't own any game I buy
I’d be happy only playing Ubisoft games tbh. Same with most big publishers really. Except actiblizzard which bank on multiplayer social crap, addictive designs and nothing else.
That's similar to the words of Klaus Schwab, the founder and head of WEF - World Economic Forum. His viewpoint is basically the same as what Ubisoft proposed, but much more wider, urging various nations to comply with his strange ideas of 'renting' and 'you'll own nothing, and you'll be happy'.
If you get banned, you lose access If their servers are down, you lose access If your internet is down, you lose access If a license of theirs expires, you lose access I see to many negatives to ever switch to subscriptions or digital only.
It’s actually one of the fundamental pillars that mean individual freedom is possible personal ownership of private property is actually very important for freedom it’s why the WEF wish to remove physical ownership from humans all this is a fact
I agree and I’ve told plenty out there that I’d rather have a choice of both not once over the other but unfortunately the way “gamers” and Gamers are now being divided and manipulated into this kind of thing it makes me really question who plays games for fun and who plays them for both fun AND the art/escapism it provides…and trust me with who I’ve talked to I’ve been filtering them out.
As retro gamer am thankful for what the CEO said, sometimes people need to hear it from a devils mouth for them to realized what kind of dystopian hell the gaming industry is heading into
@@chaoschaoforever sound more like an excuse So when you see a person twice your size in the street whose planning to mug or worse to you, your not gonna struggle? you're just gonna let it happen because you know you're not beating them?
Yup, just look at what happened to movies. No one will make a good game for a subscription service. Lmao. Why would they? They already have your money. Subs are ALL about taking money, and doing no work. One would have to not care about our future to participate in subscriptions.
@@chaoschalice I understand the point your trying to make and I agree with you but just look at Steam. If you understand how Steam works, then you already know we've been here for quite a while. People are only just now realizing it cuz every other company is trying the jump on and compete with Steam.
@@chaoschaoforever i get it but there are still physical media, and yah people are just realizing it a little late but gamers still has power in the industry, you can't just raise the white flag prematurely when the fight isn't over yet
Took the words right out of my mouth. Sad to miss out on that new side scrolling Prince of Persia but just like with that Unity fiasco from last year, I’m sick of companies who tell you how fair they are for pissing in the faces of customers. I don’t expect a massive boycott from others but at least for myself, I’m through rewarding this tripe. Ubisoft can go ahead & fleece others while I spend my money on games with quadruple the quality, 1/3 of the price & dev teams that can fit on a bus rather than the uninspired bs that Ubisoft has been putting out more & more anyway.
Ohh absolutely I agree with your statement. They will definitely lose more players. Therefore more money. I mean it's not like ubisoft is even relevant anymore. They're games have been dogshit for almost 10 years. Hell they've lost more players then Activision & Dice
I bought Siege (Steam/PC) back in 2020. Tried to play it last year and was unable to. Contacted Ubisoft and spent an hour and a half in chat with customer service showing them proof of my purchase. They corrected it. A few days later I went to play it again, same issue. Never again will I play or buy anything from Ubisoft.
Why? It’s not like idiots aren’t going to support them anyway I mean look how many fans binder mediocre games they know that things are gonna buy a mediocre game so they don’t have to do any work to make it sell because idiots are going to buy an unfinished product irregardless they already constantly are
I think they're getting used to it - I believe their stock dropped below $20 for the first time in a while today. Good to see investors selling their stock. Hope Ubisoft goes out of business.
@@mr.sinjin-smyth Exactly. And Ubisoft is already guilty of removing DLC people paid for when they turned off some activation servers. All Ubisoft releases are high seas exclusives as far as I'm concerned. And most of their games nowadays aren't even worth going that route for.
Indie games are saving the gaming experience since 10-15 years and only grow stronger. Triple A was once a sign of good quality and a fun game but now it's a warning sign to stay the faq away from them.
It isn’t incompetence. They’re strictly following the guidelines set for them by their masters at the World Economic Forum. Do some digging. They’re in bed together.
@@rapatacush3 The easiest way to stop piracy is not by putting antipiracy technology to work. It's by giving those people a service that's better than what they're receiving from the pirates. -Gabe Newell
The idea of people "getting used" to the turn to the streaming market is so utterly disrespectful. I still HATE this ecosystem where I must have like 43 different streaming services and EVEN THEN I almost never find what I wanna watch. As a kid, in the old vhs dags, I could ALWAYS watch whatever I wanted. I still try to have the media I truly love, physical.
for them it is only Start if you get used to it they will pull worser more greedy things gradually it it is how micro-transactions start , skins saying it won’t affect game then items that is overpowered, for not owing it will become worse If gamers accept it because next step is paying monthly to have digital game like Netflix to have access to game you can say it will be next step of greediness
Physical media was ruined for both movies and videogames, it's very inconvenient, with unskipabble trailers and stuff, and for videogames, it's a scam, even if you buy physical, you still require internet to play the good version of the game or just play.
I believe if a company makes an IP completely delisted/unavailable they should have to forfeit the copyright on it. The point of copyright is to prevent other people from just copying what you created and undercutting your ability to profit off it. Therefore if you choose to intentionally not profit off it (say for tax write offs) there's no benefit to preventing others from using it.
Oh how I wish this would be how it works. We could get more Final Space seasons ;_; (show that was cancelled after a company merger as tax write-off but they won't allow the director of it to make more since they own the copyright, even though they shut the show down)
I always say this. There should be a law about copyright that states that if you own a copyright on something but refuse to let it be available, be it for free or for money, you lose the right to do copyright claims on anyone offering that product for free (I'd still keep it for people trying to cash on piracy). Media should be preserved.
That sounds so pretty, but it's also wrong. Say you buy a game, but decide not to play it because you're playing another game, then you must forfeit ownership of said game, the point of buying a game is to play it, so by not playing it there's no point of buying the game. See? Suddenly it sounds wrong. When you buy something, it's yours to do whatever you want with it, even if it's not using it.
@@welon17 Except no, because the people playing the game never OWNED the copyright to it in the first place. I have no idea what you're talking about with this argument, this is about copyright not ownership.
Exactly. Thank you. I'm sick and tired of gamers always raging, yet they refuse to ever take a good, hard, honest look at themselves. Gamers always complain about corrupt business practices in the game industry, but will continue to do business with these companies. They'll talk all sorts of stuff about "F*ck this publisher/developer!" But the second that company announces their next game, these same gamers are like: "I am definitely pre-ordering this! I can't wait!" Nothing will ever change, because gamers have no balls. They do nothing other than complain on the internet.
@@DeadPixel1105 As a women I have no balls either, but that didnt stop me from boycotting Ubisoft years ago. I do play their games, but they dont get my money. I rebuy them from other people. I avoid DLC, merch, or anything that gives them money. I have been against their practises (both with how they treat employees, how they treat their (new) IP's, how they treat customers and how obviously money hungry they got. (I get all companies are buisnesses out to make money. But there is a difference between wanting to make money while treating your customers with some level of respect and making actual good products, or just being as greedy as possible without any respect for your customers and rushing and half assing your products). And I will keep boycotting with my money untill they change their practises. Both on a humanitarian level, as well as customer friendly level. I am not holding my breath. So I am content getting all the games I am interested on rebuy. And if they ever go digital or streaming only, thats when I stop playing their games alltogether. Plenty of games in the world. I wont lose sleep over it. Sadly this is not a problem exclusive to Ubisoft. Most game companies are trying to create a gaming world where we own nothing and depend on them for everything. Look at what Square enix is saying in interviews and it's not sunshine and rainbows either for example. It's why I also started boycotting Square Enix because they also have become so greedy they aren't even trying to hide it anymore. They have plans no different from Ubisoft. So if your one of those people proudly boycotting Ubisoft, but not Square because FF7! Or something you might as well support Ubisoft because unless the consumers boycot the practises in general, it will become the new reality. It's why I will also not support stuff like gamepass. Thats cool now, but it's a stepping stone to taking away ownership and gaming becomming a subscription only service thing. Long term thinking should make you avoid it, even if it's cheaper. If you value ownership and some level of control over the exchange between consumer and the game companies you need to boycot EVERYTHING that works as a stepping stone to game streaming becomming the norm.
Plenty of gamers are fine with subscription models, since it's incredible value. And game developers only have themselves to blame by not providing demos of their games. I am not paying $60 for a game without a demo/trial that I might not even like, a game you won't even own when you use Steam since it's full of DRM. But I am fine paying $10 to try out tons of games for a month, it's a good deal. Ubisoft is just saying what many gamers are thinking.
Subscription models work best for people that: are on a tight budget, want games quick and doesn't worry about the games not being available after a couple of years. A few years ago a colleague of mine laughed at the notion that I was buying Blu-rays when Netflix exists. Soon after, maybe a couple of weeks later, he complained about his four year old daughter was throwing temper tantrums because she couldn't see Frozen anymore. Disney had removed Frozen and many other films from Netflix because they were going to start up Disney+. I think in that moment he realized why I was still buying physical movies.
What are the things no one ever mentions to is you get to watch all the bonus features and the director's commentary on the DVD most of the time on these streaming services you can't even do half of that stuff let alone a fourth
This, people also forget that enjoyers of a certain medium love to collect these things. I like to play a new game and then put it down on my desktop (or shelve back in the day) and look at it knowing I have it there to revisit it one day. It's not like music which is just fun and comes and goes.
@@mikev8746 There's plenty of collectors of music as well. That's the whole reason vinyls (and in some cases even casette tapes) came back, so many people love to collect vinyls of their favourite albums and hang them on their walls, or showcase them someplace else. When you get down to it there's gonna be collectors of pretty much everything, no matter how niche, so corporations trying to push for digital only is just plain stupid. Vinyls are usually about twice as expensive as CDs, could easily be thrice or even more if it's some limited edition, especially when the vinyl has artwork on it. Fans will buy it, it makes for a great gift for someone who's a huge fan, etc. Them trying to get rid of physical media is actively working against their sole interest: making money. It simply shows their incompetence and lack of knowledge about what players want.
why do subscription models work best for people on budgets? this makes me laugh, because for one do you want to own every movie youve ever watched? do you know how much storage youd need? but somehow when its games people expect you to buy EVERYTHING you play or youre cheap smh if i had every game ive ever played physically i'd need a football pitch size storage.
@@deeplaysgaming4754 So you have no filter and you play everything that comes out and do nothing else with your time? I play like 5-10 titles a year (nowadays, 2023 was crazy). I'd like to own those games because the time investment I put in them I want to be lasting. People that use subscription services are either casuals, cheap or in your case, play a fuckton of games I guess.
Yong Yea is misreporting an interview with a Ubisoft executive for the sake of generating outrage. In the interview, the executive was asked about the stagnant growth of subscription services. He responded that in order to attract more subscribers, gamers must become comfortable with the idea of not owning their games.
@@ldrockmusicHow was that the execs response instead of the obvious realisation that subscription gaming services are terrible and should be abandoned?
This whole "trust me bro" when it comes to these companies keeping up their end of the bargain is tiresome. There's nothing in place to keep them accountable. Any promise is just empty words. Their history shows their true nature.
i just need a quick $70 i'll give you a fun store to gamble in for a small subscription fee. there's also a great game attached to it, you'll love it, it has high ESG scores. sure it isn't exactly done yet, we have some bugs to work out not to talk about balancing issues, so we put in some big time wasters so you don't get to the unfinished parts too quickly, unless you want to ofcourse, that's what the ingame shop is for!
These companies have lost touch with reality, they are blatantly showing us that their only goal is money. Forgotten is the path they took to reach such heights.
People do. People don't wanna have to micro-manage every aspect of their lives, especially the entertainment they enjoy. They wanna shut their brain off and enjoy it.
@@Bananahammock681 Multi-billion corps are working every day to make people think that way. It's not just people being ignorant, it's a constant propaganda war being waged on their minds.
I mean we do. Bc nothing ever changes, they somehow still get through with most of these things bc there are so many uninformed, willfully ignorant NPCs
My brother was all onboard for having PS+ games. He carefully collected every title that could, played around PS+ promotions to score cheaper games and racked an enormous collection of PS titles. It all came crashing down when the price for PS+ ramped up and he could no longer afford to keep the subscription. Result? 90% of his collection is now locked to him until he pays the increased subscription price. And that has soured him from engaging with subscription services moving forward, which to me is a net positive.
I know you lose access to the free ps+ games, but he should still have access to all the ones he spent money on even if they had the ps plus discount. Or do you mean most of his collection was the monthly free games?
I think the problem is that he has so many games he has no way to tell which ones he bought with Plus discounts and which ones he got for free. He is an absolute miser when it comes to buying games and he was collecting Plus games for years. I only take his word for it as I mostly play on my Switch.
@@Kleowi That makes sense. I have had a ps plus subscription since I first bought a ps3 so I have racked up quite a collection of free games as well. It did use to be a pretty good deal. I usually got enough games each year that I was interested in playing to make it more than worth the price of subscription. The last year wasn't very impressive though. I have enough games in my backlog though that I wouldn't be particularly bothered if I lost my free ones though. I mostly keep the subscription so I can play online with my brothers.
I went out of my way to blacklist all ubisoft games on steam and left negative reviews warning people about it when they first pulled an anti-ownership maneuver, and this isn't exactly about to convince me to take that back
Steam allows you to block publishers as a whole. I've had EA blocked on Steam for years at this point. (Haven't bought or even played an EA game since 2011). I may now be doing the same thing with Ubisoft. They already all require us to download UPlay, which is a nightmare in itself. In typing this out, I think I've actually made the decision in my head to go ahead and block Ubisoft as a publisher on Steam from my view. (You'll still see titles on sale and stuff, but it'll be grayed out like things you've ignored)
I already had a cracked copy of blood dragon but i got it on a sale anyway. Now i had to download a fucking launcher i didn't want and the game runs like shit. So no more ubisoft for me. Just piracy.
Honestly you don't lose anything by blocking Ubisoft. Their games has been absolute dog shi formulas for years now well except for maybe Rayman origins and legends which I considered the best platformer at the time.
@@pyromancer3d Overall that's great but supporting a game like the Dead Space remake will encourage them to make more of those. That's really the only good thing they've done in a long time though.
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Don't. There are good Ubisoft game too, just pirate them.
Yeah maybe instead of "Ubisoft Connect" to play my Ubisoft games (or game, they are all clones of eachother basically) I'll get my next Ubisoft game from "Fitgirl"...
People like Tremblay will say these things, annoy the community to not purchase their products, and then fire the front line workers for his incompetence. I wish theses "leaders" were held more accountable for the dumb things they say and attempt to do.
Yep. These assholes always inexplicably fail upwards or at the very least keep their jobs ...and sacrifice those below them to pay for their own mistakes.
Well, tbh, if you work for corps like Ubisoft in these days, I actually deserve to be treated like shit, not because you're a bad person or something like that but because you knew up front that it will be this way. Same goes for people 'buying' games from ActiBlizz or Ubisoft, you already know up front, that you will get conned/scammed so it's your own fault. And no, that's not victim blaming, it would be, if it would not be common knowledge that those things will happen but it is. Everyone that buys their products knows up front, they will get treated poorly just as everyone that works for them knows up front for what they're signing up.
Have you missed the part where he's not an executive? Yong yea seemingly did but the guy is director of subscription so in an interview about subscription of course this is what is going to happen and br said lmao
I was going to say we saw this with Google Stadia. People who had invested hundred of hours into rdr2 complained about how they were about to lose their saves once the services was gone. I also love how in the interview the person was like you don't have to continuously pay. You only pay as you need. That's not how a video game subscription works. We already see this with PS+. You "own" the game for a long as you have PS+. As soon as it lapse or you cancel it you no longer have access to those games anymore until you reup PS+. Annoys me to no end. As well as many MMO's have been shutdown so those physical discs that were purchased are now useless.
Here's an idea that should scare these greedy corpos but would be wonderful for the consumer: implement a law that automatically makes every game that's only been officially available on certain digital stores or stopped having new physical copies into freeware once those digital platforms are shut down.
I get what you mean, but it usually only lasts until they announce the next game people want. At least for the large majority of people that don't follow the industry very close. Take Blizzzard for example. Everyone was pissed at them for that one Blizcon where Diablo Immortal got announced and the thing they did with that e-sports player and the commentators etc etc (not to mention the rampant allegations of sexual misconduct etc, oh and the employee that ended their life on a company trip, don't remember exact details off top of my head). But then next year they announce Diablo 4 and 99% of gamers are screaming take my money.
@@sean8102 it really works both ways tbh because look at hype for Diablo 4 now compared to release the hype for D4 is very low now compared to then plus I’m pretty sure the community hasn’t forgotten about the misconduct and all the other bad stuff that has happened in that company. We haven’t and I’m pretty sure a lot more people haven’t and I doubt they will any time soon their image will always be tarnished by that no matter how many great games or flops they make. Regardless I think it’s still great that we as a community point out this kind of stuff and that we have people like Yong and many others in other media that have a platform to voice it because otherwise a lot of more corporate bs would fly under the radar and they would get away with more. If it wasn’t for the gaming community collectively rejecting and shunning NFTs, companies probably would have gotten away with even worse monetization, they were very close though.
I really hope there is a massive legislative backlash to greedy capitalist overreach like this. We need new consumer rights or ownership and preservation of digital content, to counter all these companies moving everything to digital subscriptions, where you own nothing... It's bad enough with TV, Movies, and Games becoming victim to these greedy ideas, but even car makers are now making you pay a subscription to use built-in hardware, like heated seats, that you have in you car already!
And Right to Repair to replace a Battery the right for decent support service the option not to Rent or subscribe and hold companies board responsable for taking away our rights
Never going to happen in America, the land of greed and legal corruption. Only the European Union has the power and the balls to do anything about this.
Even printers are it! HP "Instant Ink" subscription for example where it orders your ink automatically based on your usage. A little caveat it delightfully buries is that in order to continue using a cartridge sent through that subscription, that you've technically PAID for, you must remain subscribed until the cartridge is empty. So for most people who print very rarely and are not going to use an entire cartridge in a month they are stuck paying for that subscription for however long it takes. If they cancel early or even just miss a payment (which can be communicated wirelessly to the printer by HP, as the service requires a constant online invasive connection) their ENTIRE printer locks up and prevents ANY operation, including scanning which is not even connected to the ink. Unbelievably gross practice, HP are beyond disgusting for this imo. They make enough money they didn't need to destroy their own rep for a few pennies more. Pathetic levels of greed. For sure a huge regulatory backlash is on the horizon as these things always course correct, often in the most extreme ways. It's going to get worse before it gets better no doubt but it will still get better. Just gotta keep pushing til then and keep a note of all the companies who had to be FORCED to treat their customers with basic respect and decency. If they want to prey upon people just to benefit marginally in the short term then they don't deserve to trade in the longterm.
Don’t worry, these companies will lobby and throw money at politicians to make sure that doesn’t happen because governments are just as corrupt as these companies are
People not only sell DVDs, CDs, etc., but they buy them. Physical media may not be as big of a market as it once was due to the convenience of digital ones, but it's sure as hell not dead. There's a lot of things that are impossible with a digital copy of a game, or anything at all for that matter, that even a caveman could do with a physical one.
This is one of the main reasons why I always try to buy games physically instead of digitally. Sure using less data storage is nice, but I also feel confident that if something happens to my console, I still have my major games with me.
@@AnnaGreenMoon well don't know about other regions of the world. In the european union you can buy a disk and after that you are allowed to "pirate " it from the internet. Because you already paid for it. If a company file charges against you, you can show the disk, even if its broken and you are good. Another example of european union law is for example Battle for middle earth 1 and 2. Both games were published by EA, they are no longer available and WB has the game rights. EA are not allowed to sell the game anymore, but they have the rights on battle for middle earth. Now a modding community in the european union is trying to bring it back to life, which they are allowed to. Because companys cannot ban you from recreating the software when no one is allowed to sell it anymore. The modders clearly aren't allowed to earn any money with it. But otherwise it is fine.
I am a ps5 user The crew 2 was in my ps plus subscription for free . I made great progress in the game and enjoyed it. Then the game was put off and all my progress is no more . Now i can't buy the game on ps5 thanks to new motorfest crew game. Only option is to use ps4 version . Ubisoft is a sick joke at this point .
That's me with EA. I don't even accept free copies of EA games, because that means someone paid for it. Ubisoft has now joined their ranks. on the "Ignored Publisher" list on Steam they go.
@@pyromancer3d Yeah, I'd like to see Titanfall 2 get updated again, but that's never gonna happen with a shit game like Apex being their cash cow. Otherwise, same. EA isn't even worth considering outside maybe a star wars game or two.
The difference between games and music and TV are I feel people are more likely to want to go back and play an older game vs watching a movie. Also most movies and music are easily obtainable in a variety of formats where as video games don't have that luxury. The gaming industry created a preservation issue that can only be solved via piracy.
a game is not the same as a movie or tv series,a game can be played diffrent every time,sure it the same levels,but you don't play it the same every time.
That whole "own nothing and be happy" isn't a joke or some wild conspiracy theory. It's legit and it's being worked towards every day. Why? Because when you don't own own a product, they can charge you for it ad infinitum. Why sell a product once when they can sell the same product to you for a monthly sub for the rest of your life.
Sith Lord klaus says u will eat the bugs and own nothing and be happy and live in 15 min smart surveillance city’s be happy with open boarders be happy with transing the kids be happy with never ending fake wars for profit and oh yeah orange man bad
@@Morbing_Time You want to know what is one of the best things about capitalisms? We the consumers can easily punish these shady greedy big corpos by simply closing our wallets and walk away from them and take our business elsewhere and thus depriving them of the very thing that keeps them afloat. We can always buy product from another company who would treat us better. So many people don't realize how much power we the consumers have over these big bloated corpos through capitalism. After all, these big corpos ultimately live or die by us. if these arrogant execs, shareholders, and investors, want to screw with us consumers by doing shady greedy motivated crap, we can always screw them back by screwing with their bottom-line.
I expect the Sims game will make it so your sim when he wants to eat he has to use your credit card to buy food. This renting thing probably has EA having wet dreams
I literally used to walk across a HUGE highway just to get my games from games top back in the day. I liked having physical copies because it was an event to go and get your games. It took nearly ten years for me to get used to digital because it took away my childhood experience. Now they are forcing us to rent games!? They sure know how to make games LESS fun.
It used to be there were people scoffing at those who still bought physical media, but now they’re starting to realize the value of having a physical copy with companies A) making the digital media they paid for unavailable and B) putting edited content on streaming services, pulling content, or refusing to air certain episodes/series period.
@@brandongray1059when Netflix was all there was, it was $8, and it had most of the stuff you wanted, piracy went down. Now there's all these different streaming services with everything spread thin. And guess what? Yar Har fiddle de dee.
This is as transparent as any greedy game publisher has gotten. The mask hasn't just slipped, it fell to the ground and shattered. Every time I think the most out-of-touch nonsense has already been spouted, I get proven wrong. If this truly is the direction we're headed in, then thank God for video game preservation it all of its many forms. We're gonna need it.
When Ubisoft is constantly releasing games like Elden Ring and Baulders Gate 3 then they can go ahead and make bold statements like that, until then they can take a seat. So ya, take a flippin seat Ubisoft
He can go choke on a 3 day old hard baguette. It's the the SpongeBob meme: "Why do we have to keep teaching you this lesson old man". This is why I have no problem using emulators for older games. At one point I could not find physical copies of Dreamcast games I wanted to play.
It's like they slowly lower a pillow on your face "Shh, shh, it's all right" while caressing your hair. No thanks, also very comfortable not owning anything from Ubisoft, in any form. Remember that EA's whole "Don't like it, don't buy it" thing...maybe something along those lines?
This reminds me of owning Transformers: War for Cybertron. There wasn't a physical copy to find so I went to digital instead. Found it on Amazon years back and got it right away and put it on Steam Powered. I don't remember how much it was, but after the purchase a few weeks later, it was no longer available. Really glad I got the game when I had the chance. Psychical copies for games is important to have the nostalgia.
I paid for PS+ for 3 years. When the base subscription still offered monthly games to download. I never once downloaded, nor played any game that was offered during this period of time. Those titles did not even have my slightest interest. I am sure others seen that as a weak offering. When compared to the real reason for the subscription, which was to play with others online. Many subscription models aim for mediocrity. They offer enough to keep their customer base, while never giving them a reason to recommend it to others.
This a prime example pf why digital games should not cost the same physical games. Youre paying for licensing not the actual ownership of the game. Plus theres no breakage clause with digital games so there should easily be a lower price difference
Or cost to print, ship, store, or sell. In fact, that was part of the digital future promise. Digital games will totally cost less cause they cost less to produce! Trust us!
Not all digital is the same. For GoG, you own the game in that you have the complete installer for the game downloaded and you can use/backup/copy as much as you like. It's your purchase.
But the cost of production have nothing to do with price. We have C budget games with $60 tag. And we have AAA attached with Gamepass/Plus (Virtualy free) The price is based on supply and demand. If people want them. (Gta/Fifa/cod) you can even charge $200. But if flops Is gonna be $10 or free very soon.
@@IslamistSocialist371 not talking inflation. Going up to $70 is whatever. Im talking about digital games shouldnt be the same price as a physical release which you actually own
I am 45 yrs old and have been a gamer all my life. And I plan being a gamer until I'm 100 yrs old. But if we move to an all digital subscription service gaming future. That's when I will say "You know what? I am too old to be playing video games, and spend my time doing something else.
the fact he makes a statement like this a couple months before the crew 1 gets shut down and info has come out that an offline mode is in the games files they just refuse to enable it scummysoft at it again
That's cause these corporate executives want full and complete control of the industry, as you laid out with the subscription-only biosphere. They hate it when a game like BG3 comes alone, running counter to all the for-profit ideals, making a game for the gamers first and foremost. It makes them look all sorts of bad, as it should. They want to remove that potential source of "humiliation" and forestall any future occurrence where an outside circumstance shows them how they can/should be better, forcing them to expend greater effort to improve, even if only superficially. They hate it when that happens. They'd rather sit comfortably and turn out the same old sh*t year after year, like the COD and the sports games franchises, stuff them full of microtransactions and get filthy rich for basically no creative effort whatsoever.
The audacity of comparing a PHYSICAL collection of DVDs to DIGITAL content is clinically insane. Said person can always access that media (even if they have to find a player for it) because it's physically there. Digital content lost due to server abandonment, or full out IP abandonment is an entirely differently thing. Thank you for mentioning stadia, because what happened is exactly what I knew would happened. If it's abandoned, it's gone when it's only digital.
you're right and i'm on your side but your argument has a little flaw, cds, blue rays, cartridges don't last forever and the more i use them the faster they will die it's actually amazing that we can have all those old sega or nintendo games in digital formes to play them for all of eternity
@@beatkillermanwell nothing lasts forever but you know the user should be able to at least make an effort to preserve or at least make a backup copy for future
You wouldn’t lose access to to game in a strictly digital world. As long as you could backup and copy your games to other devices there is no issue with a digital only landscape. The issue comes when corps push for both a digital only landscape and enforce their dirty, cheap ass DRMs so that you can’t copy your game to other devices easily or at all even after they no longer sell it and doesn’t represent any financial loss to them.
Or just jailbreak them. I did that last year with my PS3 collection, and preserved all my physical and digital games, and now even after my PS3 died, I can still play those games on my computer and not lose them forever... or being forced to buy the same game twice on my PS5 as a "remaster". F those companies
I recently realised that I am at a point in my life where I don't crave certain games anymore. I go "oh that's neat" and if the reviews after release look good, it has a reasonable price and runs on the platforms I own, I might buy it. But the last time I wanted a game so much that I would have thrown money at it despite micro transaction, life service, "rent/stream games" bullshit, was when I was a teenager when these things didn't exist yet. And I am glad that nowadays no game can be so amazing to me that I'd buy into that crap. Especially considering that studios that do these things often times also have the most boring and lazy ideas.
I'm at this point where I hardly play any games at all anymore. Though it's interesting to follow the news and see how much worse things are getting every year.
My attitude is hope for the best, expect the worst and be pleasantly surprised if it's good. But yeah, not since I was a kid have, I been "hyped" for a game. Doesn't mean I don't look forward to a game coming out. But say GTA 6 for example. I'll watch a trailer when it comes out then forget about it till it's close to release. I don't watch the first trailer and automatically assume the game is going to be amazing or something. Yes, Rockstar has a pretty good track record (yes GTA def collection was god awful, outsourced junk). Judging from some comments on the GTA 6 trailer you'd think the person has you know... actually, played the game.
@@2bitnerd Just because it didn't start today, that doesn't make it right. I for one am glad to see that more and more of us are becoming aware, partly through videos like this one.
@@danieltoth9742 it's perfectly fair that the creators of art like video games have a right to decide how their games are distributed and licensed. You are paying for the experience, not the source code. If they're kind enough to release a physical medium, that's great. But we as consumers are not entitled to it.
@@2bitnerd They can decide how to distribute their stuff, yeah, that's fair. What's _not_ fair is them selling you a perpetual license, something that's never meant to expire, only to then take it right back, with no compensation. All the while leading you to believe that you owned your copy by putting the shiny green "purchase" button in your face, while hiding the much less palatable truth in page 271 of some EULA that they _know_ no one reads. That's deception on purpose. It's wrong.
You're going to spend weeks torrenting a whole game library and get a virus on your PC, when you can just access the games legitimately for $10 with a subscription? That doesn't even make sense.
@@sophieedel6324Like the above guy said, you don't really know what you're talking about. Most games available on Torrent sites are by trusted and consistent uploaders who usually Crack the games themselves. I have never ran into a virus or anything from Torrents, Limewire back in the day on the other hand..... lol.
Yeah you don't really own Xbox games. They're just a license key. Especially if it's an Xbox disk they don't even try to hide the disk is just a license key. Only very few games companies put their games on a disk. Like SEGA with Sonic Frontiers for example. It'll say on the box whether a download is required or not.
Microsoft, and all these companies, will be held accountable one day. We don't need to worry about that. 😊 I feel bad tho, every day, for the people they take advantage of. 😢 It's impossible to warn everyone.
I own my music on hard drive. I have several backups. I have a large collection of DVDs and BluRays, but not one subscription. I will never not own my purchases. If I can't own something, I'm not buying it.
This is why DRM (copy protection) is bad - you can't make backups of stuff you own, so when it's gone it's really gone. Streaming doesn't HAVE to use DRM & prevent you from saving it (e.g. browsers are quite happy to play an MP4 video on a website, which you can also save), but of course they don't want you to do that.
I lost access to my old email that was connected to my ubisoft account was deleted for being inactive, so legit lost a decent ammount over the years despite buying it with my xbox profile all transactions with ubisoft were already not owned now its going to be games f#@k ubisoft never touching their games 100% boycott from me
Can't say this notion surprises me after the old exec of Square Enix tried to pull the whole "can you believe that people still play games _for fun?!"_
@@bluefang62 they're still doubling down on NFT/Play2Earn gaming because Sony is usually about 3.5 years behind everyone else on gaming trends these days.
I like that he seems to insinuate this was a favor, a response- just reluctantly giving consumers what they've been begging for. "Consumer shift" my ass.
I also like that he had to come up with reasons why this was a net positive and essentially the only thing he came up with was the idea of cloud saving, something that does not require non-ownership.
This is not an insight into the future of gaming, this is a future for gaming that we will now resist. I swear man how do corps think they can try and slide this shit in and not get backlash? Stuff this predatory can't work unless they forced it on us out of the blue
Oh boy! They said the thing out loud that they weren't supposed to say. Ubisoft: "You LICENSE games. Not OWN them... Microsoft: "CHILL, BRO! STFU!" Music Industry: " First time?"
Exactly what I caught also The licenses are expiring because the companies or corporations don't want to pay for relicensing Greedy despicable ( EXPLICATIVE )
I am a ps5 user The crew 2 was in my ps plus subscription for free . I made great progress in the game and enjoyed it. Then the game was put off and all my progress is no more . Now i can't buy the game on ps5 thanks to new motorfest crew game. Only option is to use ps4 version . Ubisoft is a sick joke at this point .
I am a ps5 user The crew 2 was in my ps plus subscription for free . I made great progress in the game and enjoyed it. Then the game was put off and all my progress is no more . Now i can't buy the game on ps5 thanks to new motorfest crew game. Only option is to use ps4 version . Ubisoft is a sick joke at this point .
I have one simple rule: If I can’t own a movie, music album or a game in physical form like cd, blu ray disc or vinyl: I won’t buy it. I want to own it and be happy.
Crazy how these big company execs think that is okay. Shame because I was just positively thinking of the Ubisoft name with Prince of Persia. Now I’m thinking twice about buying a new copy of that game.
I am a ps5 user The crew 2 was in my ps plus subscription for free . I made great progress in the game and enjoyed it. Then the game was put off and all my progress is no more . Now i can't buy the game on ps5 thanks to new motorfest crew game. Only option is to use ps4 version game cd. Otherwise i can't play it Ubisoft is a sick joke at this point . 💩
@@jacksmith-mu3ee Yeah I think I watched a YT video covering that issue with The Crew. It gets old hearing about online only or digital only games. There should be an option for both. I used to not care but then started looking into it more.
I was about to buy the Prince of Persia game when he said that... I'm never buying an Ubisoft game new, from a shop or digital, ever again. I will only buy second hand copies and if they're only digital, I'm not buying. It's ok, there are a lot of good games to play, I won't miss the next copy and paste Far Cry or Assassin's creed.
I can only speak for germany, but after the 5th streaming service hit the market the consumers cancelled most of their subscriptions and physical media purchases are now on a new rise. We've never been comfortable not owning the stuff we bought, we just decided not to care that much as long as we had ONE source for a more comfortable access to 90% of the music and most movies and tv series out there. Even as an game pass subscriber I still buy all games that I like on Steam or gog, but I will never buy a game on any other of the numerous platforms like Ubisoft, EA or Epic, because it is way too much and I don't like to segment my stuff over move than two providers.
The funny thing is that the one who coined the idiom "You'll own nothing and you'll be happy" is Klaus Schwab, a German economist, quite infamous in the gaming community for just this idiom.
People like this exectutive are the exact reason on why i don't care pirating games from big companies, why should i care about them when they dont care about us to begin with.
If the corporations don't wanna be ethical, then we as customer won't be either. If buying isn't owning, then piracy isn't stealing. For the last decade I have ZERO remorse pirating EA and Ubisoft games. They don't deserve my respect (and money) if they don't respect me as a customer
make laws that says game companies must make digital downloads available for people,when the companies stop selling or providing them anymore,and the copies can be installed on the consoles hdd,and to prevent piracy,you must enter a key that the customer gets with the download,and you don't need internet for it to work.
This is Ubisoft's EA moment.
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They're idiots for saying that...
...imagine if Konami said a similar thing.
I own all the assassins creed far cry and prince of Persia Games. Guess I will toss them in the fire dumpster now
I dare you to name one thing you improved in the gaming industry
Duh why TF would gamers give a shit about subscriptions. They can 💦 off. Pretty much none of us want subscriptions. It's just another version of live service online only crap
@@MachinimaCommentary1don't hurt yourself just to hate the company. Just hate the company.
As the saying goes: “if buying the games isn’t owning, then piracy isn’t stealing.” 😉
I am going to use that liberally
Exactly then that Ubisoft exec shouldn't be pissed off if I decide to pirate star wars outlaws instead of paying it. After all according to him I don't own any game I buy
Pirating isn't stealing, it is merely duplicating.
Haha love it
Yo ho
To be absolutely fair, I'm VERY comfortable not owning any Ubisoft game.
I’d be happy only playing Ubisoft games tbh. Same with most big publishers really. Except actiblizzard which bank on multiplayer social crap, addictive designs and nothing else.
@@monalisa-bs4zsand Ubisoft and the other big publishers don’t? I find it actually mind blowing that you’re separating them.
@@monalisa-bs4zs r/woosh
YEP. Honestly if you've played 1 ubisoft game, you've already played them all.
That's why I don't buy from them anymore
Imagine saying "You'll own nothing and you'll like it" without a hint of irony and expecting anyone to just be okay with that.
The level of genuine boot licking some people do to companies is amazing.
And that's exactly what Ubisoft is doing. Fuck them...
There's a book about this, and it's been around for quite some time.
"The Road to Serfdom" - Friedrich A. Hayek
That's similar to the words of Klaus Schwab, the founder and head of WEF - World Economic Forum. His viewpoint is basically the same as what Ubisoft proposed, but much more wider, urging various nations to comply with his strange ideas of 'renting' and 'you'll own nothing, and you'll be happy'.
@s.i9050 life is about leverage and frankly we have none. People will bitch but will bend to the changing world - and they know this.
If you get banned, you lose access
If their servers are down, you lose access
If your internet is down, you lose access
If a license of theirs expires, you lose access
I see to many negatives to ever switch to subscriptions or digital only.
if an exec at the company randomly decides to remove a game for no particular reason, you lose access
It’s actually one of the fundamental pillars that mean individual freedom is possible personal ownership of private property is actually very important for freedom it’s why the WEF wish to remove physical ownership from humans all this is a fact
Not only that, they can alter the content, remove DLC, stealth edit dialog, censor things retroactively and you could do nothing to stop it.
I agree and I’ve told plenty out there that I’d rather have a choice of both not once over the other but unfortunately the way “gamers” and Gamers are now being divided and manipulated into this kind of thing it makes me really question who plays games for fun and who plays them for both fun AND the art/escapism it provides…and trust me with who I’ve talked to I’ve been filtering them out.
That's why people will fight to stop it.
As retro gamer am thankful for what the CEO said, sometimes people need to hear it from a devils mouth for them to realized what kind of dystopian hell the gaming industry is heading into
Heading into? It's already here. People have been warning about this shit since the Xbox One came out. It's too little too late.
@@chaoschaoforever sound more like an excuse
So when you see a person twice your size in the street whose planning to mug or worse to you, your not gonna struggle? you're just gonna let it happen because you know you're not beating them?
Yup, just look at what happened to movies.
No one will make a good game for a subscription service. Lmao. Why would they? They already have your money.
Subs are ALL about taking money, and doing no work.
One would have to not care about our future to participate in subscriptions.
@@chaoschalice I understand the point your trying to make and I agree with you but just look at Steam. If you understand how Steam works, then you already know we've been here for quite a while. People are only just now realizing it cuz every other company is trying the jump on and compete with Steam.
@@chaoschaoforever i get it but there are still physical media, and yah people are just realizing it a little late but gamers still has power in the industry, you can't just raise the white flag prematurely when the fight isn't over yet
Ubisoft: I hope you're ready to not own your games.
Gamers: I'm ready to not own YOUR games. I hope you're ready to not make any money.
Them:no wait daddy hates it when you do that
Right, that's what we must do. No matter how much love the franchise, stop buying it. But ppl are stupid. Keep buying digital and not physical
Took the words right out of my mouth. Sad to miss out on that new side scrolling Prince of Persia but just like with that Unity fiasco from last year, I’m sick of companies who tell you how fair they are for pissing in the faces of customers. I don’t expect a massive boycott from others but at least for myself, I’m through rewarding this tripe. Ubisoft can go ahead & fleece others while I spend my money on games with quadruple the quality, 1/3 of the price & dev teams that can fit on a bus rather than the uninspired bs that Ubisoft has been putting out more & more anyway.
Ohh absolutely I agree with your statement. They will definitely lose more players. Therefore more money. I mean it's not like ubisoft is even relevant anymore. They're games have been dogshit for almost 10 years. Hell they've lost more players then Activision & Dice
Ubisoft needs to be comfortable not making any money with that kind of attitude.
I bought Siege (Steam/PC) back in 2020. Tried to play it last year and was unable to. Contacted Ubisoft and spent an hour and a half in chat with customer service showing them proof of my purchase. They corrected it. A few days later I went to play it again, same issue. Never again will I play or buy anything from Ubisoft.
Why? It’s not like idiots aren’t going to support them anyway I mean look how many fans binder mediocre games they know that things are gonna buy a mediocre game so they don’t have to do any work to make it sell because idiots are going to buy an unfinished product irregardless they already constantly are
I think they're getting used to it - I believe their stock dropped below $20 for the first time in a while today. Good to see investors selling their stock. Hope Ubisoft goes out of business.
It's things like this why I'd rather get pirated copies or buy and support indie games. Not gonna waste $60-70 on a game I'll never own.
@@mr.sinjin-smyth Exactly. And Ubisoft is already guilty of removing DLC people paid for when they turned off some activation servers. All Ubisoft releases are high seas exclusives as far as I'm concerned. And most of their games nowadays aren't even worth going that route for.
Leave it to Ubisoft's incompetence for inadvertently helping with the growth of the indie game industry
Indie games are saving the gaming experience since 10-15 years and only grow stronger. Triple A was once a sign of good quality and a fun game but now it's a warning sign to stay the faq away from them.
Helping the physical purchases market, the retro game scene, the piracy, etc.
It isn’t incompetence. They’re strictly following the guidelines set for them by their masters at the World Economic Forum. Do some digging. They’re in bed together.
More like piracy industry
@@rapatacush3 The easiest way to stop piracy is not by putting antipiracy technology to work. It's by giving those people a service that's better than what they're receiving from the pirates.
-Gabe Newell
imagine paying 70$ for a game and not actually owning it
you will OWE nothing and be happy
literally every steam game
@@iccy6039 steam, when you purchase it it's yours, even if it gets removed from steam it's yours
@@iccy6039 The sea air smells really great this time of the year.
@@iccy6039
That's not how steam works.
Steam still downloads the game onto your PC.
So it's on your device even if steam decided to get rid of it.
I feel like if they want us to be ok with not owning a game we pay for, then they should be ok with not recieving our money for the game we dont own.
I would pirate their games, but they don't have anything worth playing. Ubisoft is total and utter world-class trash.
They should be ok with having they s**t bootlegged
If you can't own it anyway you might as well not own it for free.
If buying isn't owning. Then piracy isn't theft
Piracy was never theft. Theft implies you take someone's property, and they lose it.
@@n16r3d0 And the thing you take is already there to begin with, neither does it earn you money in any way or shape.
" Steel " yourself Philip,
We gonna make our own sale.
Piracy for me.
It’s not stealing if you are re obtaining what you bought with legal tenure, it’s just getting your property back
Pirate days are glorious 😂
The idea of people "getting used" to the turn to the streaming market is so utterly disrespectful. I still HATE this ecosystem where I must have like 43 different streaming services and EVEN THEN I almost never find what I wanna watch. As a kid, in the old vhs dags, I could ALWAYS watch whatever I wanted. I still try to have the media I truly love, physical.
for them it is only Start if you get used to it they will pull worser more greedy things gradually it it is how micro-transactions start , skins saying it won’t affect game then items that is overpowered, for not owing it will become worse If gamers accept it because next step is paying monthly to have digital game like Netflix to have access to game you can say it will be next step of greediness
Physical media was ruined for both movies and videogames, it's very inconvenient, with unskipabble trailers and stuff, and for videogames, it's a scam, even if you buy physical, you still require internet to play the good version of the game or just play.
I believe if a company makes an IP completely delisted/unavailable they should have to forfeit the copyright on it. The point of copyright is to prevent other people from just copying what you created and undercutting your ability to profit off it. Therefore if you choose to intentionally not profit off it (say for tax write offs) there's no benefit to preventing others from using it.
Oh how I wish this would be how it works. We could get more Final Space seasons ;_; (show that was cancelled after a company merger as tax write-off but they won't allow the director of it to make more since they own the copyright, even though they shut the show down)
I always say this. There should be a law about copyright that states that if you own a copyright on something but refuse to let it be available, be it for free or for money, you lose the right to do copyright claims on anyone offering that product for free (I'd still keep it for people trying to cash on piracy). Media should be preserved.
Nice Idea and I agree but there is one Issue here… they would not be able to resell you those Games 10 Years later as remake.
That sounds so pretty, but it's also wrong. Say you buy a game, but decide not to play it because you're playing another game, then you must forfeit ownership of said game, the point of buying a game is to play it, so by not playing it there's no point of buying the game.
See? Suddenly it sounds wrong. When you buy something, it's yours to do whatever you want with it, even if it's not using it.
@@welon17 Except no, because the people playing the game never OWNED the copyright to it in the first place. I have no idea what you're talking about with this argument, this is about copyright not ownership.
This is an example of the mindset of people that think "You will own nothing and be happy" is actually a good thing. Nothing but greed and idiocy.
So Klaus Schwab and the WEF
Even the commies weren't this bad.
"don't own anything, while i own everything."
Makes you wish turnabout was fair play.
And a gigantic raging megalomania as well.
At this point, the consumers are a very very big part of the blame
Exactly. Thank you. I'm sick and tired of gamers always raging, yet they refuse to ever take a good, hard, honest look at themselves. Gamers always complain about corrupt business practices in the game industry, but will continue to do business with these companies. They'll talk all sorts of stuff about "F*ck this publisher/developer!" But the second that company announces their next game, these same gamers are like: "I am definitely pre-ordering this! I can't wait!"
Nothing will ever change, because gamers have no balls. They do nothing other than complain on the internet.
Always have been.
And things never change for the better.
@@DeadPixel1105 As a women I have no balls either, but that didnt stop me from boycotting Ubisoft years ago. I do play their games, but they dont get my money. I rebuy them from other people. I avoid DLC, merch, or anything that gives them money. I have been against their practises (both with how they treat employees, how they treat their (new) IP's, how they treat customers and how obviously money hungry they got. (I get all companies are buisnesses out to make money. But there is a difference between wanting to make money while treating your customers with some level of respect and making actual good products, or just being as greedy as possible without any respect for your customers and rushing and half assing your products).
And I will keep boycotting with my money untill they change their practises. Both on a humanitarian level, as well as customer friendly level. I am not holding my breath. So I am content getting all the games I am interested on rebuy. And if they ever go digital or streaming only, thats when I stop playing their games alltogether. Plenty of games in the world. I wont lose sleep over it.
Sadly this is not a problem exclusive to Ubisoft. Most game companies are trying to create a gaming world where we own nothing and depend on them for everything. Look at what Square enix is saying in interviews and it's not sunshine and rainbows either for example. It's why I also started boycotting Square Enix because they also have become so greedy they aren't even trying to hide it anymore. They have plans no different from Ubisoft. So if your one of those people proudly boycotting Ubisoft, but not Square because FF7! Or something you might as well support Ubisoft because unless the consumers boycot the practises in general, it will become the new reality. It's why I will also not support stuff like gamepass. Thats cool now, but it's a stepping stone to taking away ownership and gaming becomming a subscription only service thing. Long term thinking should make you avoid it, even if it's cheaper. If you value ownership and some level of control over the exchange between consumer and the game companies you need to boycot EVERYTHING that works as a stepping stone to game streaming becomming the norm.
Yes and no im a gamer i dont give my moms to bad companies unfortunately some times that dosnt stop them
@@Pocket_Sized_Satan It doesn't matter if you do it or not. Other 10 people somewhere in the world do.
This is gonna haunt Ubisoft for a while now, just like EA’s bad take on singleplayer games
It took them this long to figure out Quartz is a stupid idea, I guess their collective half neuron was busy.
Plenty of gamers are fine with subscription models, since it's incredible value. And game developers only have themselves to blame by not providing demos of their games. I am not paying $60 for a game without a demo/trial that I might not even like, a game you won't even own when you use Steam since it's full of DRM. But I am fine paying $10 to try out tons of games for a month, it's a good deal. Ubisoft is just saying what many gamers are thinking.
and then they make a single player game that made them bank lol
It's things like this why I'd rather get pirated copies or buy and support indie games. Not gonna waste $60-70 on a game I'll never own.
This is like do you not have phones thing.
Subscription models work best for people that: are on a tight budget, want games quick and doesn't worry about the games not being available after a couple of years.
A few years ago a colleague of mine laughed at the notion that I was buying Blu-rays when Netflix exists. Soon after, maybe a couple of weeks later, he complained about his four year old daughter was throwing temper tantrums because she couldn't see Frozen anymore. Disney had removed Frozen and many other films from Netflix because they were going to start up Disney+.
I think in that moment he realized why I was still buying physical movies.
What are the things no one ever mentions to is you get to watch all the bonus features and the director's commentary on the DVD most of the time on these streaming services you can't even do half of that stuff let alone a fourth
This, people also forget that enjoyers of a certain medium love to collect these things. I like to play a new game and then put it down on my desktop (or shelve back in the day) and look at it knowing I have it there to revisit it one day. It's not like music which is just fun and comes and goes.
@@mikev8746 There's plenty of collectors of music as well. That's the whole reason vinyls (and in some cases even casette tapes) came back, so many people love to collect vinyls of their favourite albums and hang them on their walls, or showcase them someplace else. When you get down to it there's gonna be collectors of pretty much everything, no matter how niche, so corporations trying to push for digital only is just plain stupid. Vinyls are usually about twice as expensive as CDs, could easily be thrice or even more if it's some limited edition, especially when the vinyl has artwork on it. Fans will buy it, it makes for a great gift for someone who's a huge fan, etc. Them trying to get rid of physical media is actively working against their sole interest: making money. It simply shows their incompetence and lack of knowledge about what players want.
why do subscription models work best for people on budgets? this makes me laugh, because for one do you want to own every movie youve ever watched? do you know how much storage youd need? but somehow when its games people expect you to buy EVERYTHING you play or youre cheap smh if i had every game ive ever played physically i'd need a football pitch size storage.
@@deeplaysgaming4754 So you have no filter and you play everything that comes out and do nothing else with your time? I play like 5-10 titles a year (nowadays, 2023 was crazy). I'd like to own those games because the time investment I put in them I want to be lasting. People that use subscription services are either casuals, cheap or in your case, play a fuckton of games I guess.
All These game companies should have a new law that says if you remove a game or shutdown you need to proved a physical copy to the customer.
or a digital download,that you can put on a usb thumbstick and install on the hdd.
If Ubisoft wants us to get used to not owning things they should lead by example and place all of their IPs and characters in the public domain
Yong Yea is misreporting an interview with a Ubisoft executive for the sake of generating outrage. In the interview, the executive was asked about the stagnant growth of subscription services. He responded that in order to attract more subscribers, gamers must become comfortable with the idea of not owning their games.
@@ldrockmusicsame thing
@@ldrockmusiceven then, telling gamers they need to stop owning games so the company can squeeze more profit is gross beyond measure.
@@ldrockmusicHow was that the execs response instead of the obvious realisation that subscription gaming services are terrible and should be abandoned?
@@ldrockmusic doesn't matter if he misreported it and you sitting here trying to defend it makes you part of the problem
This whole "trust me bro" when it comes to these companies keeping up their end of the bargain is tiresome. There's nothing in place to keep them accountable. Any promise is just empty words. Their history shows their true nature.
i just need a quick $70 i'll give you a fun store to gamble in for a small subscription fee. there's also a great game attached to it, you'll love it, it has high ESG scores. sure it isn't exactly done yet, we have some bugs to work out not to talk about balancing issues, so we put in some big time wasters so you don't get to the unfinished parts too quickly, unless you want to ofcourse, that's what the ingame shop is for!
We need to fix that soon, it’s gone on for too long unchallenged.
@@Zercias hahah nice
@@ZerciasI WILL TAKE YOUR ENTIRE STOCK!!!!! 😂😂😂
They can trust that my foot is gonna go square up they a** for that stupid idea of not owning our own games
"You will own nothing and be happy"
- WEF
"But when I pirate something that you no longer make, then you'll be pissed!"
These companies have lost touch with reality, they are blatantly showing us that their only goal is money. Forgotten is the path they took to reach such heights.
But what's comical is that they aren't even making money, they're actively losing it left and right XD
So they're just doing this shit in vain
Alot of them can't even make games anymore! 🤣
Its a weird world we live in when corporations think they can tell us "trust us, we got your back" and truely believe, we'd fall for that...
People do. People don't wanna have to micro-manage every aspect of their lives, especially the entertainment they enjoy. They wanna shut their brain off and enjoy it.
@@Bananahammock681 Multi-billion corps are working every day to make people think that way. It's not just people being ignorant, it's a constant propaganda war being waged on their minds.
@@Bananahammock681 dystopia like wall-e. I would rather commit sudoku than be told how to live my life.
only dumb people do that, but sadly, that's majority
I mean we do. Bc nothing ever changes, they somehow still get through with most of these things bc there are so many uninformed, willfully ignorant NPCs
My brother was all onboard for having PS+ games. He carefully collected every title that could, played around PS+ promotions to score cheaper games and racked an enormous collection of PS titles.
It all came crashing down when the price for PS+ ramped up and he could no longer afford to keep the subscription. Result? 90% of his collection is now locked to him until he pays the increased subscription price. And that has soured him from engaging with subscription services moving forward, which to me is a net positive.
I know you lose access to the free ps+ games, but he should still have access to all the ones he spent money on even if they had the ps plus discount. Or do you mean most of his collection was the monthly free games?
I think the problem is that he has so many games he has no way to tell which ones he bought with Plus discounts and which ones he got for free. He is an absolute miser when it comes to buying games and he was collecting Plus games for years. I only take his word for it as I mostly play on my Switch.
@@Kleowi That makes sense. I have had a ps plus subscription since I first bought a ps3 so I have racked up quite a collection of free games as well. It did use to be a pretty good deal. I usually got enough games each year that I was interested in playing to make it more than worth the price of subscription. The last year wasn't very impressive though. I have enough games in my backlog though that I wouldn't be particularly bothered if I lost my free ones though. I mostly keep the subscription so I can play online with my brothers.
And this is why Piracy will never go away.
Fitgirl repacks FTW
@@sean8102 dont forget good old CODEX
I went out of my way to blacklist all ubisoft games on steam and left negative reviews warning people about it when they first pulled an anti-ownership maneuver, and this isn't exactly about to convince me to take that back
Steam allows you to block publishers as a whole. I've had EA blocked on Steam for years at this point. (Haven't bought or even played an EA game since 2011). I may now be doing the same thing with Ubisoft. They already all require us to download UPlay, which is a nightmare in itself. In typing this out, I think I've actually made the decision in my head to go ahead and block Ubisoft as a publisher on Steam from my view. (You'll still see titles on sale and stuff, but it'll be grayed out like things you've ignored)
I already had a cracked copy of blood dragon but i got it on a sale anyway. Now i had to download a fucking launcher i didn't want and the game runs like shit. So no more ubisoft for me. Just piracy.
Honestly you don't lose anything by blocking Ubisoft. Their games has been absolute dog shi formulas for years now well except for maybe Rayman origins and legends which I considered the best platformer at the time.
@@pyromancer3d Overall that's great but supporting a game like the Dead Space remake will encourage them to make more of those. That's really the only good thing they've done in a long time though.
Don't. There are good Ubisoft game too, just pirate them.
Pirating games from greedy corporations is a moral obligation when they try to do stuff like this. Edgerunners rise up!
You had me till edgrunners i dont think you know what and edgerunner actually is😂
They need to "get comfortable" with us not giving them any more money!
Yeah maybe instead of "Ubisoft Connect" to play my Ubisoft games (or game, they are all clones of eachother basically) I'll get my next Ubisoft game from "Fitgirl"...
more like you OWE nothing and will be happy.
...Even though that won't happen. The best part? It's not "we", but "me".
don't worry, you'll still pre-order
@@questcore636 I haven't pre-ordered for over 10 years....
People like Tremblay will say these things, annoy the community to not purchase their products, and then fire the front line workers for his incompetence. I wish theses "leaders" were held more accountable for the dumb things they say and attempt to do.
Yep. These assholes always inexplicably fail upwards or at the very least keep their jobs ...and sacrifice those below them to pay for their own mistakes.
Well, tbh, if you work for corps like Ubisoft in these days, I actually deserve to be treated like shit, not because you're a bad person or something like that but because you knew up front that it will be this way. Same goes for people 'buying' games from ActiBlizz or Ubisoft, you already know up front, that you will get conned/scammed so it's your own fault.
And no, that's not victim blaming, it would be, if it would not be common knowledge that those things will happen but it is. Everyone that buys their products knows up front, they will get treated poorly just as everyone that works for them knows up front for what they're signing up.
Have you missed the part where he's not an executive? Yong yea seemingly did but the guy is director of subscription so in an interview about subscription of course this is what is going to happen and br said lmao
True
Unionize.
I was going to say we saw this with Google Stadia. People who had invested hundred of hours into rdr2 complained about how they were about to lose their saves once the services was gone. I also love how in the interview the person was like you don't have to continuously pay. You only pay as you need. That's not how a video game subscription works. We already see this with PS+. You "own" the game for a long as you have PS+. As soon as it lapse or you cancel it you no longer have access to those games anymore until you reup PS+. Annoys me to no end. As well as many MMO's have been shutdown so those physical discs that were purchased are now useless.
Atleast psplus was nice. Played a crap ton of games in 3 months that would of costed me hundreds. 😅
This is why I never want to give Ubisoft or Activision money anymore
Here's an idea that should scare these greedy corpos but would be wonderful for the consumer: implement a law that automatically makes every game that's only been officially available on certain digital stores or stopped having new physical copies into freeware once those digital platforms are shut down.
It has to get really bad enough for that to even be considered.
Most lawmaking bodies don't even know how to log into Facebook. Do you really expect them to understand anything about this industry?
@@Blinky_Dorf Hahaha, so true. The law, even to this day, takes a loooooong time to catch up with technology and morality in general.
That's how GOG works.
@@Blinky_Dorf The people to go to self checkout and whine about how its too hard.
I absolutely love how every time the gaming community comes together to bully corporations for doing and saying bullshit
I get what you mean, but it usually only lasts until they announce the next game people want. At least for the large majority of people that don't follow the industry very close. Take Blizzzard for example. Everyone was pissed at them for that one Blizcon where Diablo Immortal got announced and the thing they did with that e-sports player and the commentators etc etc (not to mention the rampant allegations of sexual misconduct etc, oh and the employee that ended their life on a company trip, don't remember exact details off top of my head). But then next year they announce Diablo 4 and 99% of gamers are screaming take my money.
@@sean8102 it really works both ways tbh because look at hype for Diablo 4 now compared to release the hype for D4 is very low now compared to then plus I’m pretty sure the community hasn’t forgotten about the misconduct and all the other bad stuff that has happened in that company. We haven’t and I’m pretty sure a lot more people haven’t and I doubt they will any time soon their image will always be tarnished by that no matter how many great games or flops they make.
Regardless I think it’s still great that we as a community point out this kind of stuff and that we have people like Yong and many others in other media that have a platform to voice it because otherwise a lot of more corporate bs would fly under the radar and they would get away with more.
If it wasn’t for the gaming community collectively rejecting and shunning NFTs, companies probably would have gotten away with even worse monetization, they were very close though.
Oh only if gaming community can follow up on their threats. Game companies just weather the storm and pretend nothing happened after it passes lol.
I really hope there is a massive legislative backlash to greedy capitalist overreach like this. We need new consumer rights or ownership and preservation of digital content, to counter all these companies moving everything to digital subscriptions, where you own nothing... It's bad enough with TV, Movies, and Games becoming victim to these greedy ideas, but even car makers are now making you pay a subscription to use built-in hardware, like heated seats, that you have in you car already!
And Right to Repair to replace a Battery the right for decent support service the option not to Rent or subscribe and hold companies board responsable for taking away our rights
Never going to happen in America, the land of greed and legal corruption. Only the European Union has the power and the balls to do anything about this.
Even printers are it! HP "Instant Ink" subscription for example where it orders your ink automatically based on your usage. A little caveat it delightfully buries is that in order to continue using a cartridge sent through that subscription, that you've technically PAID for, you must remain subscribed until the cartridge is empty. So for most people who print very rarely and are not going to use an entire cartridge in a month they are stuck paying for that subscription for however long it takes. If they cancel early or even just miss a payment (which can be communicated wirelessly to the printer by HP, as the service requires a constant online invasive connection) their ENTIRE printer locks up and prevents ANY operation, including scanning which is not even connected to the ink. Unbelievably gross practice, HP are beyond disgusting for this imo. They make enough money they didn't need to destroy their own rep for a few pennies more. Pathetic levels of greed.
For sure a huge regulatory backlash is on the horizon as these things always course correct, often in the most extreme ways. It's going to get worse before it gets better no doubt but it will still get better. Just gotta keep pushing til then and keep a note of all the companies who had to be FORCED to treat their customers with basic respect and decency. If they want to prey upon people just to benefit marginally in the short term then they don't deserve to trade in the longterm.
Don’t worry, these companies will lobby and throw money at politicians to make sure that doesn’t happen because governments are just as corrupt as these companies are
Everyone saying pirating is morally acceptable and a necessity.
Fucking Preach 🙌
People not only sell DVDs, CDs, etc., but they buy them. Physical media may not be as big of a market as it once was due to the convenience of digital ones, but it's sure as hell not dead. There's a lot of things that are impossible with a digital copy of a game, or anything at all for that matter, that even a caveman could do with a physical one.
I, for one, appreciate Ubisoft's now decade-spanning commitment to getting gamers to not want to own Ubisoft games.
You can't lie, they are quite good at it.
I really hope that one day the headline is "Ubisoft closes its doors for good. Auctions off Intellectual Properties to various companies.
For real. The new Prince of Persia looks good, but then I saw this and was reminded of why I haven't bought a Ubisoft game since Far Cry 5.
"Ubisoft will not have my money and they will be happy."
This is one of the main reasons why I always try to buy games physically instead of digitally. Sure using less data storage is nice, but I also feel confident that if something happens to my console, I still have my major games with me.
The only issue with discs that they can rot after some time 😢
@@AnnaGreenMoon well don't know about other regions of the world. In the european union you can buy a disk and after that you are allowed to "pirate " it from the internet. Because you already paid for it. If a company file charges against you, you can show the disk, even if its broken and you are good.
Another example of european union law is for example Battle for middle earth 1 and 2. Both games were published by EA, they are no longer available and WB has the game rights. EA are not allowed to sell the game anymore, but they have the rights on battle for middle earth. Now a modding community in the european union is trying to bring it back to life, which they are allowed to. Because companys cannot ban you from recreating the software when no one is allowed to sell it anymore. The modders clearly aren't allowed to earn any money with it. But otherwise it is fine.
You gotta admit, it’s cool of them to say the quiet part out loud nowadays to save you the effort.
Corporate greed really ruins everything
I am a ps5 user
The crew 2 was in my ps plus subscription for free .
I made great progress in the game and enjoyed it.
Then the game was put off and all my progress is no more .
Now i can't buy the game on ps5 thanks to new motorfest crew game.
Only option is to use ps4 version .
Ubisoft is a sick joke at this point .
Invest towards a PC.
they wouldn't do all that stuff if no one was buying it, so blame the consumers and not the corps
I think the fact that online purchases making so we dont own the game unless connected is disgusting
I haven't played an ubisoft game in years. They're trying very hard to make sure that doesn't change.
Same. I have a massive library of their old games that I haven't played in a while though (from 10+ years ago and mostly on disc)
The only Ubisoft games I still play are the South Park RPG games, that's it.
That's me with EA. I don't even accept free copies of EA games, because that means someone paid for it. Ubisoft has now joined their ranks. on the "Ignored Publisher" list on Steam they go.
@@pyromancer3d Yeah, I'd like to see Titanfall 2 get updated again, but that's never gonna happen with a shit game like Apex being their cash cow. Otherwise, same. EA isn't even worth considering outside maybe a star wars game or two.
Same. I just enjoy the good news about them digging their own grave now...😊
Damn, its crazy how a single statement from a company makes you not wanna buy any of their games anymore lol. Ubisoft lost the plot.
This just cemented what I already knew. Ubisoft has been creatively and morally bankrupt for years at this point
Goodbye, Prince of Persia The Lost Crown. I hardly knew thee and I hardly give a crap.
@@zake64 i see nothing but facts
The difference between games and music and TV are I feel people are more likely to want to go back and play an older game vs watching a movie. Also most movies and music are easily obtainable in a variety of formats where as video games don't have that luxury. The gaming industry created a preservation issue that can only be solved via piracy.
Emulation like dosbox and virtualization like VMware or virtualbox
a game is not the same as a movie or tv series,a game can be played diffrent every time,sure it the same levels,but you don't play it the same every time.
That whole "own nothing and be happy" isn't a joke or some wild conspiracy theory. It's legit and it's being worked towards every day. Why? Because when you don't own own a product, they can charge you for it ad infinitum. Why sell a product once when they can sell the same product to you for a monthly sub for the rest of your life.
Sith Lord klaus says u will eat the bugs and own nothing and be happy and live in 15 min smart surveillance city’s be happy with open boarders be happy with transing the kids be happy with never ending fake wars for profit and oh yeah orange man bad
I love capitalism
@@Morbing_Time You want to know what is one of the best things about capitalisms? We the consumers can easily punish these shady greedy big corpos by simply closing our wallets and walk away from them and take our business elsewhere and thus depriving them of the very thing that keeps them afloat. We can always buy product from another company who would treat us better. So many people don't realize how much power we the consumers have over these big bloated corpos through capitalism. After all, these big corpos ultimately live or die by us. if these arrogant execs, shareholders, and investors, want to screw with us consumers by doing shady greedy motivated crap, we can always screw them back by screwing with their bottom-line.
Monthly? Soon it will be weekly and then Daily.
I expect the Sims game will make it so your sim when he wants to eat he has to use your credit card to buy food. This renting thing probably has EA having wet dreams
Sounds like ubisoft should get used to people not paying for their games then
Having two boxes of unsold sealed copies of the Assassin's Creed movie in your garage doesn't really count as owning 2 boxes of DVDs.
The success of games like Baldur's Gate 3 should've put the idea of "not owning games" in the dirt.
I literally used to walk across a HUGE highway just to get my games from games top back in the day. I liked having physical copies because it was an event to go and get your games. It took nearly ten years for me to get used to digital because it took away my childhood experience. Now they are forcing us to rent games!? They sure know how to make games LESS fun.
It used to be there were people scoffing at those who still bought physical media, but now they’re starting to realize the value of having a physical copy with companies A) making the digital media they paid for unavailable and B) putting edited content on streaming services, pulling content, or refusing to air certain episodes/series period.
I suppose they’ll have to get comfortable with us not playing them, then
Or, get used to us not "buying" it.
torrents exist for a reason
Oh I'll play them, I just won't be paying for them
@@joshuaarnett762 Well-said.
@@brandongray1059when Netflix was all there was, it was $8, and it had most of the stuff you wanted, piracy went down. Now there's all these different streaming services with everything spread thin. And guess what? Yar Har fiddle de dee.
Companies these days really wanna see who can go bankrupt the fastest.
They are going bankrupt all corporations will team up and force it.
This is as transparent as any greedy game publisher has gotten. The mask hasn't just slipped, it fell to the ground and shattered. Every time I think the most out-of-touch nonsense has already been spouted, I get proven wrong. If this truly is the direction we're headed in, then thank God for video game preservation it all of its many forms. We're gonna need it.
Complacency may very well win the day for these monsters if people don’t wake from this madness.
Sad but your right
When Ubisoft is constantly releasing games like Elden Ring and Baulders Gate 3 then they can go ahead and make bold statements like that, until then they can take a seat. So ya, take a flippin seat Ubisoft
Even then, no they can't.
He can go choke on a 3 day old hard baguette. It's the the SpongeBob meme: "Why do we have to keep teaching you this lesson old man". This is why I have no problem using emulators for older games. At one point I could not find physical copies of Dreamcast games I wanted to play.
I will never embrace full digital for all the reasons given.
It's like they slowly lower a pillow on your face "Shh, shh, it's all right" while caressing your hair. No thanks, also very comfortable not owning anything from Ubisoft, in any form. Remember that EA's whole "Don't like it, don't buy it" thing...maybe something along those lines?
This reminds me of owning Transformers: War for Cybertron. There wasn't a physical copy to find so I went to digital instead. Found it on Amazon years back and got it right away and put it on Steam Powered. I don't remember how much it was, but after the purchase a few weeks later, it was no longer available. Really glad I got the game when I had the chance. Psychical copies for games is important to have the nostalgia.
I paid for PS+ for 3 years. When the base subscription still offered monthly games to download. I never once downloaded, nor played any game that was offered during this period of time. Those titles did not even have my slightest interest. I am sure others seen that as a weak offering. When compared to the real reason for the subscription, which was to play with others online.
Many subscription models aim for mediocrity. They offer enough to keep their customer base, while never giving them a reason to recommend it to others.
This a prime example pf why digital games should not cost the same physical games. Youre paying for licensing not the actual ownership of the game. Plus theres no breakage clause with digital games so there should easily be a lower price difference
Or cost to print, ship, store, or sell. In fact, that was part of the digital future promise. Digital games will totally cost less cause they cost less to produce! Trust us!
inflation dude, $60 from 2000 is not the same in 2024.
Not all digital is the same. For GoG, you own the game in that you have the complete installer for the game downloaded and you can use/backup/copy as much as you like. It's your purchase.
But the cost of production have nothing to do with price.
We have C budget games with $60 tag.
And we have AAA attached with Gamepass/Plus (Virtualy free)
The price is based on supply and demand. If people want them. (Gta/Fifa/cod) you can even charge $200.
But if flops Is gonna be $10 or free very soon.
@@IslamistSocialist371 not talking inflation. Going up to $70 is whatever. Im talking about digital games shouldnt be the same price as a physical release which you actually own
I am 45 yrs old and have been a gamer all my life. And I plan being a gamer until I'm 100 yrs old. But if we move to an all digital subscription service gaming future. That's when I will say "You know what? I am too old to be playing video games, and spend my time doing something else.
Yepp, same here, but I really haven’t played a game for years.
the fact he makes a statement like this a couple months before the crew 1 gets shut down and info has come out that an offline mode is in the games files they just refuse to enable it scummysoft at it again
I hope Ubisoft is okay with nobody “buying” their games
That's cause these corporate executives want full and complete control of the industry, as you laid out with the subscription-only biosphere. They hate it when a game like BG3 comes alone, running counter to all the for-profit ideals, making a game for the gamers first and foremost. It makes them look all sorts of bad, as it should. They want to remove that potential source of "humiliation" and forestall any future occurrence where an outside circumstance shows them how they can/should be better, forcing them to expend greater effort to improve, even if only superficially. They hate it when that happens. They'd rather sit comfortably and turn out the same old sh*t year after year, like the COD and the sports games franchises, stuff them full of microtransactions and get filthy rich for basically no creative effort whatsoever.
The audacity of comparing a PHYSICAL collection of DVDs to DIGITAL content is clinically insane. Said person can always access that media (even if they have to find a player for it) because it's physically there. Digital content lost due to server abandonment, or full out IP abandonment is an entirely differently thing. Thank you for mentioning stadia, because what happened is exactly what I knew would happened. If it's abandoned, it's gone when it's only digital.
you're right and i'm on your side but your argument has a little flaw, cds, blue rays, cartridges don't last forever and the more i use them the faster they will die
it's actually amazing that we can have all those old sega or nintendo games in digital formes to play them for all of eternity
@@beatkillermanwell nothing lasts forever but you know the user should be able to at least make an effort to preserve or at least make a backup copy for future
at least one man in gaming industry spoke for gamers, respect to Sven
You wouldn’t lose access to to game in a strictly digital world. As long as you could backup and copy your games to other devices there is no issue with a digital only landscape. The issue comes when corps push for both a digital only landscape and enforce their dirty, cheap ass DRMs so that you can’t copy your game to other devices easily or at all even after they no longer sell it and doesn’t represent any financial loss to them.
That's when you go to seven seas
@@mjetektman9313 Exactly!
Or just jailbreak them. I did that last year with my PS3 collection, and preserved all my physical and digital games, and now even after my PS3 died, I can still play those games on my computer and not lose them forever... or being forced to buy the same game twice on my PS5 as a "remaster".
F those companies
Or give us at least access to the install files as a back up. I think GOG does that
@TheMC1X hi there do you use rpcs3 on your computer? I also want to jailbreak my PS 3. Do you have a link to some sort of guide. Thanks a mil
I recently realised that I am at a point in my life where I don't crave certain games anymore. I go "oh that's neat" and if the reviews after release look good, it has a reasonable price and runs on the platforms I own, I might buy it. But the last time I wanted a game so much that I would have thrown money at it despite micro transaction, life service, "rent/stream games" bullshit, was when I was a teenager when these things didn't exist yet. And I am glad that nowadays no game can be so amazing to me that I'd buy into that crap. Especially considering that studios that do these things often times also have the most boring and lazy ideas.
Basically youre more likely to play a game that steps away from the norm like fromsoft and their hard games
I'm at this point where I hardly play any games at all anymore. Though it's interesting to follow the news and see how much worse things are getting every year.
@@MilenninBasically if you even want to play a game, its gotta be one of those really good ones like Baldur's gate 3
My attitude is hope for the best, expect the worst and be pleasantly surprised if it's good. But yeah, not since I was a kid have, I been "hyped" for a game. Doesn't mean I don't look forward to a game coming out. But say GTA 6 for example. I'll watch a trailer when it comes out then forget about it till it's close to release. I don't watch the first trailer and automatically assume the game is going to be amazing or something. Yes, Rockstar has a pretty good track record (yes GTA def collection was god awful, outsourced junk). Judging from some comments on the GTA 6 trailer you'd think the person has you know... actually, played the game.
Those people one day will say that you have to feel comfortable with receiving NOTHING from them , but keep sending them money .
Bless you, Yong. This needs to go viral!
No it doesn't. This is literally how Steam works. I'm not sure how this is news. In the PC world, we steam users haven't owned our games for years.
@@2bitnerd Just because it didn't start today, that doesn't make it right. I for one am glad to see that more and more of us are becoming aware, partly through videos like this one.
@@danieltoth9742 it's perfectly fair that the creators of art like video games have a right to decide how their games are distributed and licensed. You are paying for the experience, not the source code. If they're kind enough to release a physical medium, that's great. But we as consumers are not entitled to it.
@@2bitnerd They can decide how to distribute their stuff, yeah, that's fair. What's _not_ fair is them selling you a perpetual license, something that's never meant to expire, only to then take it right back, with no compensation. All the while leading you to believe that you owned your copy by putting the shiny green "purchase" button in your face, while hiding the much less palatable truth in page 271 of some EULA that they _know_ no one reads. That's deception on purpose. It's wrong.
@@2bitnerdVideo games aren't "art".
As someone said "if you dont own what you pay for, then piracy isnt theft"
I want Ubisoft to be comfortable with the idea of pirating their games.
You're going to spend weeks torrenting a whole game library and get a virus on your PC, when you can just access the games legitimately for $10 with a subscription? That doesn't even make sense.
@@sophieedel6324 Pirating isn't as sketchy as you seem to think it is lmao. Your comment is straight out of 2006
@@sophieedel6324Like the above guy said, you don't really know what you're talking about. Most games available on Torrent sites are by trusted and consistent uploaders who usually Crack the games themselves. I have never ran into a virus or anything from Torrents, Limewire back in the day on the other hand..... lol.
@@sophieedel6324 maybe 20 years ago mate
@@sophieedel6324”You wouldn’t download a car.” Yes I would.
What's crazy to me is that on the Xbox store, when you buy a digital license for a game it says, BUY TO OWN.
That’s probably grounds enough for a class action lawsuit
Ubisucks: *triggered*
yes, but actually no
Yeah you don't really own Xbox games. They're just a license key. Especially if it's an Xbox disk they don't even try to hide the disk is just a license key. Only very few games companies put their games on a disk. Like SEGA with Sonic Frontiers for example. It'll say on the box whether a download is required or not.
Microsoft, and all these companies, will be held accountable one day. We don't need to worry about that. 😊
I feel bad tho, every day, for the people they take advantage of. 😢 It's impossible to warn everyone.
I own my music on hard drive. I have several backups. I have a large collection of DVDs and BluRays, but not one subscription. I will never not own my purchases. If I can't own something, I'm not buying it.
*if buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing*
cant bite the hand that feeds you, Ubisoft gonna find out the hard way
This is why DRM (copy protection) is bad - you can't make backups of stuff you own, so when it's gone it's really gone. Streaming doesn't HAVE to use DRM & prevent you from saving it (e.g. browsers are quite happy to play an MP4 video on a website, which you can also save), but of course they don't want you to do that.
imagine a bunch of guys storm into your house and took away your furniture because Ikea shut down
You’d see riots in the streets if that happened!
I'm very confortable not giving them a single dollar and even more comfortable with the idea that they will disappear one day.
I lost access to my old email that was connected to my ubisoft account was deleted for being inactive, so legit lost a decent ammount over the years despite buying it with my xbox profile all transactions with ubisoft were already not owned now its going to be games f#@k ubisoft never touching their games 100% boycott from me
Can't say this notion surprises me after the old exec of Square Enix tried to pull the whole "can you believe that people still play games _for fun?!"_
I'm sorry what? Why does he think people play games or even why they're called video games?
@@bluefang62 they're still doubling down on NFT/Play2Earn gaming because Sony is usually about 3.5 years behind everyone else on gaming trends these days.
I like that he seems to insinuate this was a favor, a response- just reluctantly giving consumers what they've been begging for. "Consumer shift" my ass.
I also like that he had to come up with reasons why this was a net positive and essentially the only thing he came up with was the idea of cloud saving, something that does not require non-ownership.
This is not an insight into the future of gaming, this is a future for gaming that we will now resist. I swear man how do corps think they can try and slide this shit in and not get backlash? Stuff this predatory can't work unless they forced it on us out of the blue
Oh boy! They said the thing out loud that they weren't supposed to say.
Ubisoft: "You LICENSE games. Not OWN them...
Microsoft: "CHILL, BRO! STFU!"
Music Industry: " First time?"
Exactly what I caught also
The licenses are expiring because the companies or corporations don't want to pay for relicensing
Greedy despicable ( EXPLICATIVE )
I am a ps5 user
The crew 2 was in my ps plus subscription for free .
I made great progress in the game and enjoyed it.
Then the game was put off and all my progress is no more .
Now i can't buy the game on ps5 thanks to new motorfest crew game.
Only option is to use ps4 version .
Ubisoft is a sick joke at this point .
"You will own nothing and be happy" makes one think.
Get comfortable with pirates stepping up a notch, 🤣.
And people wonder why piracy is a thing.
Looks like Ubisoft needs the Budweiser treatment
I am a ps5 user
The crew 2 was in my ps plus subscription for free .
I made great progress in the game and enjoyed it.
Then the game was put off and all my progress is no more .
Now i can't buy the game on ps5 thanks to new motorfest crew game.
Only option is to use ps4 version .
Ubisoft is a sick joke at this point .
I have one simple rule: If I can’t own a movie, music album or a game in physical form like cd, blu ray disc or vinyl: I won’t buy it. I want to own it and be happy.
Crazy how these big company execs think that is okay. Shame because I was just positively thinking of the Ubisoft name with Prince of Persia. Now I’m thinking twice about buying a new copy of that game.
I am a ps5 user
The crew 2 was in my ps plus subscription for free .
I made great progress in the game and enjoyed it.
Then the game was put off and all my progress is no more .
Now i can't buy the game on ps5 thanks to new motorfest crew game.
Only option is to use ps4 version game cd. Otherwise i can't play it
Ubisoft is a sick joke at this point . 💩
@@jacksmith-mu3ee Yeah I think I watched a YT video covering that issue with The Crew.
It gets old hearing about online only or digital only games. There should be an option for both. I used to not care but then started looking into it more.
If I don't own the games that I buy, then I'm not stealing the games that I pirate.
I was about to buy the Prince of Persia game when he said that... I'm never buying an Ubisoft game new, from a shop or digital, ever again. I will only buy second hand copies and if they're only digital, I'm not buying. It's ok, there are a lot of good games to play, I won't miss the next copy and paste Far Cry or Assassin's creed.
I can only speak for germany, but after the 5th streaming service hit the market the consumers cancelled most of their subscriptions and physical media purchases are now on a new rise. We've never been comfortable not owning the stuff we bought, we just decided not to care that much as long as we had ONE source for a more comfortable access to 90% of the music and most movies and tv series out there. Even as an game pass subscriber I still buy all games that I like on Steam or gog, but I will never buy a game on any other of the numerous platforms like Ubisoft, EA or Epic, because it is way too much and I don't like to segment my stuff over move than two providers.
The funny thing is that the one who coined the idiom "You'll own nothing and you'll be happy" is Klaus Schwab, a German economist, quite infamous in the gaming community for just this idiom.
So in this case, piracy isn't stealing
To the seven seas we go, ahoy matey 🏴☠️
Raise the Jolly Roger!!! Let the pirating commence!!!!!!!!!
We work hard to earn money, and we want something in return. It sounded like " People should get used to working for free".
People like this exectutive are the exact reason on why i don't care pirating games from big companies, why should i care about them when they dont care about us to begin with.
If the corporations don't wanna be ethical, then we as customer won't be either. If buying isn't owning, then piracy isn't stealing. For the last decade I have ZERO remorse pirating EA and Ubisoft games. They don't deserve my respect (and money) if they don't respect me as a customer
make laws that says game companies must make digital downloads available for people,when the companies stop selling or providing them anymore,and the copies can be installed on the consoles hdd,and to prevent piracy,you must enter a key that the customer gets with the download,and you don't need internet for it to work.