Scarlett's Ultimate Zerg Economy - Starcraft 2
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 พ.ค. 2022
- Scarlett going up to 120 drones vs. protoss, with the ultimate zerg greed.
Match: Scarlett vs. Asuna
Tournament: ESL pro tour - Valencia 2022
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i like how scarlet is sitting in a dark lair :O
and Asuna's room is white and bright. LUL
Lmao, honestly how I play Sc2
Hopefully she can get to hive tech soon lol
now the only thing we need is some oily mechanic in an overall playing terran in his workshop.
😁😁
Why I couldnt be a pro: besides mechanical skills prism drop micro would tilt me into the stratosphere everytime
I dont know if it's the lightning, but scarlet in the dark like that looks super angry. Like "How dare you cannon rush me, mere mortal ...."
>makes 25 queen
You can see he had a lot of fun playing against her. He gave it his best.
Yeah. He definitely needs to work on that macro though. You can see him getting way too focused when he had the immortals out and was floating 600+ minerals for waay too long at the pro-league
@@godturkey4098 and you’re better? 😂
These internet warriors.
@@austinpatterson1388 He never claimed he was better. Just pointing out that compared to other professionals, Asuna’s macro is lackluster. Obviously Asuna would outclass us in every way head on, but thats not what we r debating. Theres actually a lot of thought put into this kinda stuff, casual fans criticizing/critiquing professionals that they will never be remotely close to in terms of skill. I get where youre coming from, but Ultimately tho, I believe that fans have every right to do this sorta critiquing, because at the end of the day, it doesnt take a master chef to know when a meal is kinda shit in worldclass level lol.
@@DaCooGa He can use a better tone tho. The comment doesn't mention any good part of the match, and just complain about a mistake that is not even fatal.
@@teaandpeace14 I don't think it's bad. Pointing out mistakes constructively is different from just saying "oh he sucks at macro" etc.
His expression of pure panic is completely relatable. Meanwhile Scarlett is -_-
Scarlette is a man lmao
@@user-fw2wg6rk6l Apparently, these people also believe Scarlett can become pregnant.
@@brett19890 If a woman becomes infertile she automatically becomes a man?
@@godessworshipper4663 Was Scarlett born with male organs? What was his assigned gender at birth?
@@brett19890 Will someone who wants a kid marry an infertile woman just because the woman used to be fertile? How was her past relevant if I only know the current her anyway?
It always feels like JUSTICE when an anoying shield-battery/immortal cheesing protos die
Microbial shroud (especially on queens) is brutal against Carriers, but it's stationary. I think the strategy has to be limiting creep spread and staying as mobile as possible. That's really tough going up against Scarlett, though, whose creep spread is one of the best in the game.
Yeah carrier/void just can't get things done into that. Asuna needed to get off the air deathball, chargelot runbys outrun queen/infestor/brood lord. She has to make lings, banes, roaches, or ultras to deal with the zealots - all of which lose to void/carrier.
Asuna was so behind in economy and wasted too much resources at the start without getting much done to impact scarlett... if he had more resources he could have gone into templar or disruptor... hell even mass chargelots would have helped the carriers a lot more than what he had there.
@@karnudom well yeah but those just get janked by vipers and often you lose out atleast 1-2 of them before they can gain value.
Idk, feels like there really isnt a decent counter unless zergs fucks up.
@@detachsoup6061 Only see the pros do it with templar feedback and storm, with archon on the ground, or even immortal to support. All in all it's just a case of Asuna being behind and not having enough money to tech up all the essentials. I find it very difficult to catch up with zerg once they got that deathball rolling.
@@karnudom Chargelots, which are expendable, would have been a solid and yet also ineffectual choice. Brood lords would have torn them apart, and yet they're cheaper, faster to make, and have a tanky enough aspect to do what's needed. Better than archon and immortal at least.
The real victory isn't winning vs Scarlett, its living longer than other people have.
I looked down at her mineral supply... and was: "OH my god. Scarlett is a monster, a real actual monster."
@@kingtruffle Just casually farming 7k/7k as one does.
@@todor_todorov Weird
@@todor_todorov Touch grass
@@todor_todorov Well, ask her. Of course you won't, because you very well realize that is an improper thing to ask of people and you'd likely get told to bugger off.
by taking away transfusion off creep, blizz had made zerg players evolve into something more fearful.
It like they’ve forced Zerg to be patient, which is how serral plays, no surprise then that this felt a lot like serral’s late game inevitable grind
The last patch was designed by Scarlett, so she's taken away a very powerful tool away from herself.
@@Bonefinger Arguably since Scarlett is generally so good at creep spread, losing the ability to Transfuse off creep probably doesn't hurt her as much as other regular Zerg players. If the latest patch was actually designed by her, then I'd say that she's trying to encourage more Zerg players to be more mindful of their creep placement and spread by limiting such a powerful defensive tool in the earlier stages of a match. Obviously a player wants to try to limit a Queen's time off creep because of their drastically reduced movement, but now this change makes it even more imperative Queens remain near or on creep instead of trying to heavily punish a failed push by what is a fairly cheap unit.
@@Bonefinger It was designed by several pro players not just her solo FWIW.
Scarlett is a very good transfusion player
Awesome to see the pro's window borders on the minimap. Love it in SCI and missed it in most of the SCII tournaments
I enjoy watching these so much even though i’ve never actually played the game. It feels like the type of game you need to invest a lot of time in to get remotely decent.
Sooooo much time
It's a game I enjoyed the most watching but man, playing it without a strong determination and interest is just so bad xD
@@CarterSlade22 I just watch these videos and play the campaign on normal difficult. Can't be arsed to get good, but the story is awesome and the pro matches are exciting to watch because of the insane amount of skill. I'm mostly an FPS player because I have smol brain and pew pew is about as much as I can handle in PvP games
You can have a lot of fun but don't expect your game to look like their games. Same as playing kicking a ball on a field with the bros doesn't look like World Tour Football.
Normally I root for Protoss, but Scarlett's my favorite player and I'll always pull for her. Good to see her win :D
Him*
Happens to me with Maru, zerg player here
I'm exactly the same mate. Asuna did well, all things considered! Great to see Scarlett get the W, she played this really well.
Yeah love to see what she's up to, she's been around so long at this point.
@@ZoeCalico 100%
Asuna could've killed the main hatchery with better micro of the immortals and the warp prism. Give Trap or sOs control in that moment and they would've won gotten themselves a huge lead there.
Has would've won with 1 immortal and 2 shield batteries
Trap or sos wouldnt let scarlet buildup her economy lol.
The immortal micro is a double edge sword as it demands too much attention which means the player can't think about expansion and further strategy.
You can see how scarlet was Abit clumsy in shutting down the remaining immortal and warp prison.
That's because she's more focused on her production.
I can't tell you how much I missed scarlett. The way you play scar is amazing!!!
Scarlett’s room is ideal for playing SC2 and also growing mushrooms.
Asuna badly needed some disruptors to bowl into the queen microbial moshpit.
She sure loves that Microbial Shroud spell.
Asuna kept building 90% carriers on both games so
*He
Loving the puns at the end lol
That was fantastic
TRANSformers, zerglings in disguise!
Asuna looked so stressed that whole video
scarlett is on a whole different level
Lmao the asuna puns at the end
our boy needed tempests in that last game, couldnt get close at all
Thought so too
Haven't played for a good long while... No queen transfuse out of creep. What does that mean exactly? The queen has to be on creep to transfuse I take it (but can transfuse outside of it) or does the unit that's getting transfused also need to be on creep as well (if an overlord highway would be viable for a rush)?
protoss, most advanced species in the series
*Best I can do is regenerate shields*
Lol the thing about Zerg is, and been seeing a lot of this from Terran lately is if you leave them alone, you will get full on Zap Branniganed.
Completely agree that archons would have helped so much. You guys forget there were brood lords in every major late game attack, those things obliterate charge lots especially since scarlet already had a mass of reactive lingbane. What forced away that lingbane from a chargelot harass? Archons! I think replacing half the void rays with like 3 or 4 archons would have really changed up the matchup against queen/infestor/corrupter/brood
love cats casting zerg
15:27 Give that cameraman a raise :D Yoink
Since when you can see the player's camera location in the minimap?? I know you can see your teammate's camera in co-op mode but didn't know about 1v1 spectating
I loved how she used a single Ultra to bait the static defence’s targeting so all the Lings and Banes could get in mostly untouched. Such a cool little play.
He*
@@seanverrett107 Scarletts a woman
@@nominatorchris5591 going by your logic I can say I'm elon musk, so I'm the richest person in the world! Wait just because I want it doesn't make it true. Just think about your logic there. Smh
@@seanverrett107 Those aren't equivocal. Just till now, I assumed Scarlett was always a woman until you said something about it and made me google it.
If you would elaborate tell me what you think someone must have to qualify as a woman and to be treated as a women
@@nominatorchris5591 change their DNA and go back in their mothers womb and be born again. Pretty simple. Must be new to starcraft. He was a dude for most of his time.
"who will win? a high tech maxed out Protoss army or a bunch of queeny girls?"
15:30 That "oy" xDDDDDDDDDD
amazing scarlett
that was brutal
I feel like Asuna made a mistake in the 1st game by not killing Scarlett's main hatchery. 3 immortals were there, it had about 2/3rds HP and could literally kill it in like 8 seconds, but he went back to try and save the robo and such.
Maybe it's just me being bad but I feel like focusing the hatchery guarantees SIGNIFICANT gain by stopping more queens, no unit production from the main, etc. Leaving tech vulnerable while literally cutting the economy in half for Scarlett.
what happens is protoss players are brainless and don't know more strats than cheese and mass carriers
Why no Hydralisks? I'm guessing you need lots of Queens for the abilities (Spawn Creep Tumor, Inject Lavae) anyways, so may as well go full in on those?
Can a protoss not clear creap and mass cannons and battery
Dude's name is literally Asuna lol
Still waiting on Kirito playing protoss
I really wish the player cams looked like the unit camera's. Like they are the guy being clicked on! lol
the real queen of blades
This is so disgusting, I love it XD
Why did zergs apparently not use shroud before?
I heard people tried using it awhile ago,but it seems incredibly good in the fight here. ZvP is a losing record for zerg according to aiguliac so it must be because the queen all in is easier to do
Because it only works in queens vs carrier settings. With storm, you have a problem already, but queens might compensate with transfuses. Hydras on the other hand just die.
Algo que me gusta bastante de Scarlett es que busca estrategias nuevas siempre
Asuna realized he was boned ASUNAs he realized the wall of queen was impenetrable.
Yeah!
I have never heard “stasis” pronounced “stahsis” until now.
Every pro match I see, it always feel like Zerg are OP and do not require as much micro to trade evenly. In this game, it feels like Asuna could pretty much do nothing despite microing like crazy whilst scarlet was just pushing with her units.
Дэмн… этот тосс явно сильнее меня, но неужели тактика «строй куча кариеров и не думай» работает? Против ассссс королев дизы зашли бы прям отлично. А в первом матче он просто как драгметал слился
This is like playing against my little brother
I haven't seen such a curbstomp in a bit.
Nice crosshair Asuna
Protosss just continuously seems to look more useless on technical scales lol.
Useless? That warp prism never went down, the player got pwned though.
Scarlett reinventing zerg late game. I can't believe they can be more economical than other races gg!
Asuna doesn't upgrading is shield, that more is mistakes.
scarlett reminds me of fruitdealer in the gsl, she just doesn't make mistakes ever and plays at 5k apm
@D P Triggered over pronouns lul
I'm kinda happy for this possibility for zerg. Building carriers only with some archons/storm and calling it a day with zerg needing 2 different spellcasters, overseers, corruptors and stuff is kinda bad design. Also i disagree: If played perfectly with oracles, mothership, tempests, carriers, immortals and high templar, i'm pretty sure protoss wins every time. There's a game of harstem vs serral in which they draw and that mostly because harstem fucks up at some point and loses too much of his army. HT outranging vipers (feedback) and mothership having cloak at a range together with oracles and tempests just can't be beaten by zerg units unless protoss makes mistakes.
Scarlet is just so good!
Two mens journey towards finding an acceptable pun for "Asuna".
It blows my mind that anyone still builds carriers against Zerg. Even the announcers think that Zerg late game > Protoss late game, and you're going to throw heavy, slow, expensive units against a race that has no end of defenses against them? Crazy.
Carriers are the worst units in the game in many respects. Most of the time, it seems as if you're better off building tempests instead of void rays, both against terran and zerg. Those are still slow and expensive, with far worse potential DPS, but they can actually burst down stuff, kite, deal with armour, and just generally duel and seige, which carriers so often can't.
Zerg late game is the strongest late game out of all the races period.
How big is Asuna's screen??? he's looking all over the room
He’s playing in a cinema
?at 19:40 like 10 void rays attacked one queen but she didnt take damage?? I dont get it
@Aluzky Why do you think a zerg QUEEN would be called "he"?
The queen in question did not take damage, and the poster was asking about that.
So again, why would the zerg unit queen be called a "he"?
To answer your question.
Void rays don't deal that much damage to queens by deafult.
That queen was inside Microbial Shroud which decreases damage done by air units by 50%. So the queen was taking 50% less damage than normal.
You can also see that she was being transfused by other queens. Transfuse not only tops the queens health off but it also gives a healing over time effect were 50hp is being restored over 7 seconds.
So the queen did take damage but not very much. Due to a combination of armor + shroud + transfuse.
@@butte5359 Thx, I didn't know about that microbial shroud skill. It still looks a bit sketchy though xD. Void rays have beam activated which boosts dmg against armored units and the queen doesn't even get full hp, her health just stays on the same level ^^. Probably a coincidence but I'd be interested in an in-depth analysis of this one :p After all 7 void rays total 1750/1400 if I'm not wrong and they had their skill active... ^^
@@okalsdi You are right about the void rays ability, which boosts their damage against armored units. Keep in mind though that queens are not armored, so this ability does nothing against them, void rays damage stay the same.
I think this demonstrates how powerful of an ability that shroud is. It would not be that hard to calculate how much damage the queen is taking in this scenario. I don't have the game installed so I can't double check these numbers but this is based on what I found on wiki and how I recall the game working.
The void rays damage in this game should be 9 ( because it's fully uppgraded)
The queens armor raiting should be at 4 (because she is fully uppgraded)
So the void ray should do 5 damage per attack ( 9 - 4 ).
Void rays beam does damage every 0,36 seconds. Which would normally mean 15 damage ever 1,08 seconds
Now the shroud reduces damage, as far as I know, BEFORE the armor does. This means that the void ray which used to do 9 damage now suddenly only does 4.5 ( 50% of 9 is 4,5) .
So the void ray does 4,5 damage and the queen has 4 armor, which means that the void ray does 0,5 damage per attack ( 4,5 - 4 ).
I think there are 7 voids attacking the queen, so in other words the queen is taking 3,5 damage ( 7*0,5 ) every 0,36seconds, or 10,5 damage every 1,08 seconds.
Now I think the queen was transfused during that fight. Transfusion not only heals instantly but also heals 50hp over 7 seconds. This means that every second the queen is healed for a little over 7hp.
So if I saw correctly and the queen was transfused and my math is correct then the following happend:
She is taking 10,5 damage every 1,08 seconds but also being healed during that time for about 7 hp every second.
A Queen has 175hp o it's no wonder that it seems like she is taking no damage at all, because that type of damage she is taking is essentially tickling the Queen.
If anyone wants to check my math here or if I got something wrong, then I would love to be corrected. It's possible that there were 8 voids attacking the queen for an example, it's hard to tell.
@@butte5359 lol I thought Queens were armored. I checked it, they really aren't. They must have changed that some time along lotv ^^. Thanks for the breakdown :)
I commented Asuna possible after watching this video
Gg scarlet
ITS MAAM!
@@aufkeinsen the first match is so funny, she shows queen energy after him use proxy batteries xD looking at him expression when type gg is so funny
a trillion shield batteries literally
20:56
El negrito de ojos claros?? Ozuna???! xD
Why is it protoss always cheeses at least once in a series
Because the race is too weak to fight straight up in macro games and get results, especially on some maps. There is no way for P to play a consistent long game, they can't be like Z open defensively every game.
That's why short sets are most favorable for Protoss.
Because Blizzard doubled down time and time again on Protoss being a race of gimmicks.
Queens are the best unit in the game. Imagine how crap zerg would be without queens
I wouldn't go quite so far as to say best, BCs exist, but yeah, they are amazing.
@@Santisima_Trinidad im factoring in cost and supply. The way i look at it: without queens zergs would be basically limited to doing early game rushes, which are easy to counter when you expect them, zerg just arent viable in a longer game with 0 queens. Without BCs terrans are fine, plenty of games have no BCs built even in late game.
@@coyrex1250 yeah, queens are necessary for zerg, and a lot cheaper in cost, supply, and build time than BCs. But BCs are amazing units when you have them. Whilst they aren't necessary for terran, they just offer so much damage, bulk, alpha strike potential and harassment/counterattack potential. Plus, they have insane survivability if you micro the teleport correctly. They are better than the protos mothership.
So whilst queens are certainly S tier, BCs are also very much S tier, so it's a hard choice.
It should be noted that i am biased towards ships.
@@Santisima_Trinidad You convinced me here. If I could have 200 supply of any one unit in a game I'd pick battlecruisers.
@@coyrex1250 Even queens are still the defence to bc openers, can't be mad at zergs though, every other unit sucks vs air
ASUNAS you said that it was gg
loved this. some girl in her darkened room vs high tech asian elite gamer boi and she absolutely rocks him.
That girl is one of the OG StarCraft 2 pro players, making her debut in 2012 at a professional event in Las Vegas where she pulled off several upsets against established pros. The Queen of Blades, the most accomplished female professional gamer, the only female pro StarCraft 2 player to win a major StarCraft 2 tournament (Intel Extreme Masters 2018), the Korean Kryptonite, one of the few non-Koreans to compete toe-to-toe with Koreans on Korean ladder during Korea’s long-standing dominance of the StarCraft 2 scene, It. Is. SCARLETT!!!!!!!!!
*He
@@zenmaster8826 She*
@@JD-wu5pf xy, therefore he. truth cares not for feelings. changing pronouns is just misleading lies.
@@JD-wu5pf Pronouns are just shorthand ways to refer to one's biological sex/gender. They are not nicknames or gamertags. You don't get to choose your pronouns, reality does that for you.
As soon as
The casters managed to miss the moment when Scarlett sniped the second Immortal on 04:16. Jeez guys, you blind? :D
it's game changing!
Nah, at that point, asuna had already lost the game. Losing the probe was a big deal and letting the ravagers go onto the lowground to wipe out most of the batteries and the robo was game over. There's only so much damage you can deal while juggling two immortals and if zerg rebuilds faster than you damage him, they're gonna win.
120 drones kreygasm
M-M-M-MONEY, MONEY, MONEY
scarthic
Why is this so zoomed in? Cant you have a POV of a more out zoomed view?
Carriers are way too over rated... mass void rays would have been stronger, more mobility no chance of being a useless floating unit like carriers, and what I've also found is for some odd reason pro's will not get shield upgrades until late late game... its practically like saying I don't really need half of my armor. When I was new I didn't know that was a thing but when I found out and added it to my +1/1 timing and so on it makes a world of a difference
Did you see the damage output of a bunch of voids hitting a queen while she was shrouded? Health bar barely moved and she didn't even get transfused.
@@thomasknockout he never had "a bunch of voids" he has always below 10, and me personally ibwont build more then 2-4 carriers if I have 20+ voids this us only so the interceptors or the carriers themselves are face tanking for my voids. Voids are faster can disengage easier can pick off key buildings like spire or bases extremely quickly and when you spam click a single sp9t they can all clump up for a full army recall. I've play both was enough times to know void rays and shield upgrades need to be added to their comps and they would win more. Let's say microbial shroud does make my dmg irrelevant. Just fly under a shield bat with flux viens and re engage after its over. With carried there is no real disengage and then if your interceptors go down your a sitting duck
@@VeryBadPlayerTV one fungal and they all die because their range sucks. also every time you got closer you'd lose like 5 voids to abducts. and void ray does even worse than carriers against the orange fog of invincibility
Porra deu uma dozinha do pia kkkkkk
Asuna is just being rude staying in those games as long as he did.
Carriers need to be better. For the "best" protoss unit I haven't seen them win any pro games. Interceptors either need to build Much quicker, have a higher capacity by a couple, or be free.
At 2:42 onwards when asuna attacked the hatchery and eventually gt it down to half hp, i dont know what's he doing when he had so many chances to just finish off the hatchery and probably get the win instead he just randomly micro the immortals here and there shooting random stuff without doing any actual progression, so frustrated to watch
She even rubbed salt in the wound by making ultras. Based as fk.
@Aluzky no, "she", Scarlett is a girl
*He
*She
Asuna is cutie
I think MS and storm should cancel each other out
1) It's a counterplay move rather than "just wait for it to finish" for both spells. ie its more of a fire react fire react kind of thing than fire, okay lets put the whole battle on hold unless were already overwhelmingly winning.
2) zerg shouldnt stay in place anyway if your MS is stormed. An MS means "storm here" anyways.
3) it actually matters that you have more of one caster, or more energy on one caster, rather than having a single caster on the one side completely effing up the whole engagement.
You do realize that without the shroud, zerg just loses all those battles, right? Also, with storm or disruptors, zerg will likely lose the battle, because while queens are nice, they're not that nice. Tempests also would help there.
@@asdfasdf-mn8iu theyll lose anyways if the shroud is being stormed and they stay under. this buffs shroud so that instead of units being hard killed the buff just cancels out.
@@madumlao with 175 hp on a queen and interceptors dealing a whopping 2 damage per attack to 3-armour-queens (3/3 carriers vs 3-armour queens and under shroud, that is), i doubt that storm would actually kill queens consistently enough, although i might be wrong there. Still, 4 sec storm deals only 90 damage so if the broods zone the HT to prevent a 2nd storm, i think the queens should be quite alright in that case. With storm cancelling shroud AND being able to still deal damage (by continously casting it), it's a similar situation like with shroud and storm, just without the shroud (should zerg not have enough energy for enough shrouds e.g.)
@@asdfasdf-mn8iu no, read it again. I said they should cancel _each other_ out.
Asuna is so cute
summon lowko to review this match... 🤕
I would hook up with Scarlett 😉
that's a man, baby
@@SteamGrace What difference does it make if they're trans though
@@tomfrost1713 cus that's a guy with a bussy
Nice to see some Scarlett highlights again, although I think that her Ravager micro needs some serious improvement. The early engagement towards those few Immortals could've ended a lot earlier since she got the numerical advantage, but hey, maybe it wasn't just her day. Still rooting for her though! 👌👌👌
he GG out Asuna his army destroyed
Lowko is the best.
Sorry to say that
I think the next big update should be that queens cannot transfuse other queens or spores. Or maybe that there's a cool down on the unit being transfused. So like if uve been transfused in the last 3 seconds u can't get transfused again until the 3 seconds is up. I just think it's unfair that u can have 7 carriers focusing s spore and the spore just doesn't die because of transfuse stacking.
man this series is so painful to watch. Carriers bashing their interceptors into shrouded queens. No attempts to disengage or build counter to mass queens, lol.
This is why I hate commentators who are like gold league. The one guy talks about how the player is floating 600+ minerals and says he should drop another nexus and the gold leaguer is like “should he really though?” Then the guy goes what else would he spend it on? And the gold leaguer is like “double star gate, mass voidrays?” Like.. he’s floating MINERALS.
shield batteries spawn with 50% less energy and they're still op
they definitely need to spawn with 0 energy
maybe be stronger in other aspects to compensate (like restoring shields faster) but they definitely should be something you build defensively and not just on enemy's second base
Yeah yeah yeah!!! Shield batterie with 0 energy will make toss a easy killl with cheese stuff!!! So bronze guy.
No hard feelings, but: Clown tier suggestion.
If you spawn them with 0 energy, you can no longer build them in response to agression because they will barely be able to do anything by the time an enemy rolls up unless you build them before anything else - and that severely hamper your ability to harass, tech up, or just respond to any cheese builds.
Restoring shields faster will do nothing if they don't have energy to restore shields with.
imagine making carriers and still lose
Gg
"Every race has to respect Zerg, because they grow the fastest. If you leave them untouched, they will outpace you in every regard".
So we're finally admitting it?
Finally? This is a pretty basic concept of how races are balanced in Starcraft that's been understood for a while, and there's nothing especially insightful about this commentator mentioning it; he's probably just saying it here for people who don't have much experience with the game much more than anything else, since it's a pretty obvious dynamic once you've watched a decent number of games or gotten to an ok spot on ladder.
9:43 Zerg Replacement Theory
>she