Silver Conductive Pen - DIY PCB Trace Repair
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 เม.ย. 2015
- Can two guys with little to no PCB repair experience fix the traces on the PCB for a mouse with nothing but this silver pen and a bit of electrical tape? Let's find out!
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Luke, it's good to see you in more videos! Glad to see you having some videos to your own instead of just being at the end showing the Benchmarks
2 Guys 1 Pen
+ScrattleGG
I'm not sure but ,if anyone else wants to learn about
local electronic repair shop
try Saankramer Electronic Magazine System (just google it ) ? Ive heard some incredible things about it and my colleague got cool results with it.
Dont :d
I usually endup using thin wires for such repairs but this looks much neater, great find, and yes please post such products
Enjoying the making, tinkering and big project videos. I appreciate the effort that goes into your content and it's nice to see something other than product reviews from time to time.
The product spotlight videos are great for when you're considering buying a new piece of hardware or to check on the current state of a certain tech but after a while I tend to get burned out on mouse and monitor specs. I know it's the foundation of your business and I don't think you should deviate too far from that model.
Just pointing out that videos like this one are a refreshing change of scenery and I find them to be helpful and informative. I've seen these pens and thought they were cool but I didn't know you could use them to repair traces!
DIY Vids are the main reason I visit TH-cam. I would say YES!!! to more vids of this type. Anything tech DIY repair related. Anything from repairing damage wires in PC case to full out rebuilds
well that's a lot easier than using a soldering wire.
Insane CoolAid They have completely different purposes...
Sevendogtags I think he meant copper wire not soldering per se
Sevendogtags i know but what can you do if you don't have anything else?
Frank Drebin "per se"
Insane CoolAid I've repaired traces with a pencil - has worked everytime. The graphite in the pencil "Lead" is conductive. Just a thought for us cheapskates out there. This is probably a much safer and better alternative, though.
I repaired a broken trace on a Asus ROG motherboard using this method. Kapton tape to mask of both sides of the trace, then drew the line with silver conductive ink which came in a syringe (availble from ebay), remove tape, Done! Did this a year ago and motherboard still works perfectly. Have been running a 900mhz stable overclock my 1090t with no problems all this time.
mark carter "this time" made me chuckle haha.
I love these types of videos, I like all the different types of videos you guys do, keeps it fresh
A great way to insulate traces is nail polish! It makes an excellent, non-conductive enamel. That's what I use and learned from professionals.
I would've just soldered it, personally, but I also have years of experience and a nice iron station.
This was more interesting than the camera and drone stuff that has been posted lately. I just love the computer stuff you guys do.
Slick, these most recent videos are kinda meh. Could you get back to computer hardware?
Tom Lambert people still call him slick?
Not such a problem to have little variety like this. It doesn't always have to be "WOW...LOOK!! This is the latest and greatest blah blah blah. It comes with blah blah blah at blah blah GHz. Wow these guys are pushing the limits of something blah blah blah nano meter technology." Just take it easy.
Tom Lambert it is computer hardware repair vid. maybe you're to young to know the days of making your own pcb's who was the only electronic way todo .
Tom Lambert Oh sorry, didn't know that Linus TECH tips revolved completely around PC hardware. I bet you also hated the Gear Bag vid as well.
These kind of videos are actually useful, I don't know many people who will be going out of their way to spend $1000's on GPU upgrades every time they show one off, but I'll definitely be getting this now that I know it exists.
I love the video. This pen would've saved me from making those frustrating jumper solders to fix damaged pcbs.
Glad you guys are doing more prototyping / engineering type videos.
Awesome, awesome, awesome!
I've never seen this product, but definitely going to see who supplies this cheap here in Australia.
Wow, and even that toy kit looked super cool.
Nice work lads!
Fix rather than replace, way to go Slick!
Nifty. Will be VERY useful.
Just wonderful, been searching for "what happens if phone motherboard is damaged?" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Ever heard of - Giyathan Bewildering Gratification - (Have a quick look on google cant remember the place now ) ? It is an awesome one off guide for discovering how to repair your electronic items like a wizard minus the normal expense. Ive heard some interesting things about it and my m8 got amazing results with it.
This would be awesome for prototyping and quickly making a PCB for an electronics project!
This was SUCH an awesome video!! I THINK this was the FIRST of its kind on any of LMG's channels! Good thinking!
Excellent video, guys! I´ll have to get one of these pens to play with.
I found this useful, certainly something I'm going to consider getting now for pcb repair, probably have some car stereos I could use this on, looks a lot easier than soldering jumper wires... would love to see more repair style vids as I'm a very diy guy, if something doesn't work I first try to fix it before replacing.
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#luketechtips
BLASPHEMER!
mcs11234 Not really, Luke was linus's tech guy lol. Linus took him under his arm as a personality since. To be fair, linus was originally just a shelf stocker who had a likable personality so he was paid to make product reviews. I agree that luke has more techy tech tips :P
***** #lukemasterrace
+Richard Smith linus has a degree in electrical engineering
Why i love this channel...
More stuff like this please!
i really like these kind of videos. pls do more
DIY stuff is awesome love it. Maybe a scrapyard wars where you have to find AND repair all the compenents to build a system
You can use a soldering iron too. Use a sharp blade to scrape back the mask (the green stuff over the copper) then solder wire onto the exposed copper. The reason being is that quite a few people are more likely to have a soldering iron and solder in their automotive repair kit than conductive pens.
I love you guys, Luke Linus, per Genius.
Loved the video, I would like to know if you guys would have any other unorthodox ways to do the same types of jobs with any other different materials.
"You need more practice" - does 2lines, awesome!!
Love it. Great Content!
Did that with a graphite mechanical pencil on a PSP battery back in the day. Worked like a charm for me.
I loved this video, it's awesome to see something like this that's not done by some super professional that makes it look way easier than you know it actually is. it's nice to see a product put to use by someone who's the exact type of consumer who would actually consider buying it, with all the muck ups and tries and fails that they might suffer. MORE VIDEOS LIKE THIS!!!!
Luke got "Follow" this time! Yay, good job!
Cool, would like to see more videos like this. Also, SCRAPYARD WARS!!!
Nice video guys !!
Do more videos like this plz!
I like these style of videos. Keep it up :-D
This video came out a month earlier on Vessel. Fuck mang.
I always have some silver conductive glue with me :D so useful for many things.
This is a true story, last night i was laying in bed thinking of random things while trying to fall asleep. I thought to myself about a product that i can put into a pen-like object to write with that is conductive. Then today after work i decided to check out the channel and lo and behold....
6:31 "More like TINGker amirite?"
How ever edited, u 2 funny bro!
This is insanely useful, cause most causes of basic repairs on things like phone, motherboards, etc are just PCB scratch or something. This would be cheaper than repairing or replacing your devices.
GLAD I SAW THIS!
I had a bad trace inside my car remote/key leading to the antenna and I used one of these conductive pens and its been working for many years since
This may come in very handy for someone who's spilled fluids on a keyboard and ruined it...if you've the right kind of keyboard at any rate. A lot of the rubber dome keyboards the runs are done with transparent layers(like from oldschool overhead projectors), the run itself being more or less painted on those.
I have not taken apart a mechanical keyboard myself so that may be a bit different if you have moved onto those as I have.
Great video.
neat pen! must get one and try it out myself..
Yes more like this plz plz
"oh the batteries were backwards"
"lol"
I'm glad i'm not the only one who straight up says lol sometimes
Congratulations on learning something new that is very useful. If you are really serious about fixing dead traces on boards I would recommend using some 30 gauge insulated wire and a real soldering iron. I did repairs professionally for years and that is the best and most durable way to repair a toasted trace. The pens can wipe away too easily to be considered a fully permanent solution. Most pads can be soldered to straight away and if they are covered my a solder mask (The green coating on a PCB) then an exacto blade can be used to lightly scrape away the mask. Either way, good for you, Never stop trying new things especially when it comes to electronics.
I think you gave up on this concept too early in your career. This is far superior than the method you just described. If you're worried about the trace wiping away after it has cured, then you must of been using really cheap epoxy silver. The really good stuff is used by NASA and is very strong and can even come in flexible varieties. You should do some research on Atom Adhesives. You can also coat it with two part high temp epoxy laminate layer to prevent it from ever coming free.
Very cool. I assumed a product like this existed, but I've never had a reason to use one. Maybe you guys can try to make a simple PCB using product like this just to see what you can do.
I have the same mouse! It feels so good but it doesn't work anymore, this helped a lot so I'm going to ask an expert friend to try this method.
Leaving the old corroded traces on the board are only going to make the problem worse. You need to dilute the acid with lemon juice or vinegar, scrape the traces down to bare copper, and solder the trace with lots of flux and a low-heat soldering iron. Then wash the whole board with alcohol.
Recently I met the electron inks founder! On a trip up to Boston from my college.
more of these videos!
Cool but I am sure I saw this on Vessel already. Still this was an awesome video and definitely worth watching if you haven't seen it yet.
nice intro monstercat :D
you guys realise you can't cause a bridge through the solder mask haha? Only between vias or when the copper is exposed for solder joints.
thats where i'm stuck at. Have any suggestions for repair of the connection point?
@@43audio89 cant you just scrape the soder mask off with a knife?
@@shimmywow3613 of course, but fixing the actual circular connectors is a pain if they are missing. Wires connecting to hair thin traces.. just leaves stuff delicate.. but im new to all this so idk really
@@43audio89 i also need to repair a circular connection. Damn is it hard?
I did this to a perfectly working og xbox 1.6 when i attempted to hardmod it. Sad!
Used one of those pens back in 2005 to v-mod a 7600GT :')
I'm amazed this worked.
I don't know if I'll ever fix a board, but now I know it is possible to fix my car rear window defrosts. THANK YOU!
Linustechtips is literally the buzzfeed of tech
Same things work with some pencils, I used it before on a PSP battery.
really ProtoMario? what kind?
kakashi Hatake I used a Graphite one way back in the day.
ProtoMario I did the same to create a pandora battery to flash my PSP
ProtoMario thanks
Graphite from a pencil is conductive, but resistive. You are going to basically add a resister in series, which may or may not affect the circuit, depending on the application.
Awesome!
Car detailers that can paint those very thin lines by hand should consider doing tracing for custom PCB's in their spare time. :P
Y would you not link the desc with the tech quicky
I've been using Car heated rear window repair paint for the same purpose for 20+ years ;)
smart idea!
>Suffers from RSI
>Plays Cookie clicker
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"Speaking of fine tuning?" Nobody said anything about fine tuning! :-)
Seriously, great video. Suggestion: You may want to remove the protective coating of the PCB before applying the conductive ink.
There's also graphite conductive ink, which is cheaper than silver but less conductive. Still, it's enough to fix thinks like keyboards.
I didnt know you can get it in the pen....awsome =)
Will this work on a plastic membrane like the one you can find on videogame controllers?
Came back to this video because I A: miss Luke and B: miss the old house :(
will this work with ribbon cables ? like the one used for laptop keyboards ?
I used to use a #2 pencil. Works pretty well. But this seems like a more permanent fix. Neato.
I need tech tips on shaving ! Oh wait, luke needs it !
because buying a new $4 mouse is too expensive when you have 1.5 million subscribers.
You probably don't know the purpose of this video nor read what Linus commented on this video
***** nope. see no purpose.
Wow, you could not have missed the point by a larger margin..
armoureddanger I think it's an environmentally friendly way to go.
Adam Heathcote The pen's casing is probably no better than a new mouse, and if they found some electronic recycling place then it wouldn't matter either
Testing your left mouse button using Cookie Clicker. LinusTechTips, never change.
Problem with silver pens is solder wont stick to them. If the actual circular metal piece wires hook to is gone then what would you suggest?
Great! Love it :)
Good vid
That's damn neat.
you could use a normal led pensil and draw a trace.how good the contact in ohm i have not messured
what's msi laptop ? looked pretty cool
nice video
yes i like the maker videos! the next person you guys hire should be a maker. you guys have the computer people down... you need some one who specializes in diy/ maker things
Hello. I would like to ask what to do when your mouse wheel starts playing tricks with you. Sometimes when you scroll down the page bounces up and down and you can never reach the destination you want. I had this issue with my a4tech x7 and i simply unsoldered that wheel module from the PCB and replaced it with another one from some $5 mouse donor. Are there other solutions. Thanks in advance.
Protip: Remove the damn protective coating from the traces before doing that. You're basically making a trace over another trace and hoping that it connected. Removing the protective green shit will help expand the already present trace and bolster it.
3:43 That's what she said c:
Try keeping a static free brush and a bit of isopropyl handy to clean out any debris or residue. :-)
Guys which peripheral was luke referring to that taran was using as a mouse?
I remember using one of these for unlocking my athlon xp a decade ago.
Cookie Clicker= mouse benchmarking software.
I need one right now how to get it from a local shop,where to look for it
you could also use those to overclock old Intel Core 2 Duo E4xxx and Pentium E2xxx
pen plugs.... cut open after shaking and it dries non-conductive...with the CAIG version. sux. trying 2 part mg.... no instruction included. how do i open/seal weird thread end tubes?
will this work on a motherboard that has a severed trace due to a scratch?
Time to buy some of those for my repair box
Last year i broke my 3570k with delidding and the pcb got a bit damaged by the knife. Should k give this a try?
Luke, I like your shirt!!!!!
can you solder on the points after they dry?