powerralley This guys did his job and did it well. Not an operator error on his end. There are various echelons above this guy that pushed that intel down
yeah...one of the higher ups told him that a missile is coming and that they should fire the alarm, usually they get a call from the coast...probably some of those guys trolled the worker and made that chaos, so they should have fired the one who told the worker to engage the missile alarm
some body except there’s a BIG difference, In Germany they were killing people were he was trying to protect lives. What would you have done if you thought a missile was coming?
R P Lol you listen about as well as he does. Don’t get a job in emergency systems please... He only heard half of a message and assumed the worst then sent out the alarm, kinda sound familiar?
If it was a real missile attack and he thought it was fake they would f him over anyways. This is one of those cases where they had to put the blame on someone and unfortunately he was it. I'm glad he spoke because everybody wants to point fingers but won't address the real problem.
By the way he speaks and his body movement it seems that he is. I wonder who’s really to blame 🤔 my guess is a group of people but they put the blame on him cause he was probably the most involved or maybe personal reasons? We’ll probably never know
Nope. Why speculate when there is ample evidence this guy messed up? Oh, yeah. Everyone likes to make up stuff to pass off as real because it must be a conspiracy. Simps.
@@shaelyn_world9501and bro did that job. Had there actually been a threat and he sought confirmation, people would have died. He followed his training and it cost him.
SixSentSoldiers He was told to press the drill button, yet he pressed the button which sent out the *REAL ALERT* he also had to press and select *YES, TWO TIMES* before it was even sent out.
Litty oof why would they send a true to broadcast eam over a drill protocol? Eam drills and tests are generally required to state in the beginning middle and end of the body of the text and spoken or tts message that it is just a drill, for exactly that very reason. So such a mistake can not be made and mistaken by the general public as fact. So which moron decided to send a true to broadcast message as a drill to begin with? Only persons high in the foodchain can make the choice of what is sent. (True to broadcast means in event of a emergency it is true and correct and ready fo immeadiate broadcast.) And silent drills ie un aired drills or sys efficacy tests are usually conducted by sending 150 randomly picked words in a nondecernable order to test the systems functional readiness and it is done in such a manner so there can be yet again no mistakes made.
Ryan May: Did you see them show the software UI that sends the EAS warning? It's a simple screen with a drop-down list of alerts to send. Click on it, respond Yes to confirmation queries twice, and off it goes. One person on one terminal can do it. No dual-control with separate verification. Now, the system is improved and HI-EMA added more layers of protocols to make sure it doesn't happen again, and a bogus warning can be cancelled and retracted quickly.
At HI-EMA, one person, on one terminal, can put out any one of the various alerts on a list of choices. They had to redesign the software, plus add layers of protocol to improve the EAS system.
If he truly did have reason to believe there was even a slight possibility that it was real then he 100% made the right decision. Some people panicked because of this false alarm, but imagine if it had been real and he presumed it was fake so didn't give a warning at all - I doubt anyone would prefer that.
@@jimmybeanchugger1832 I mean true, but the protocol should still be followed. Some people might be able to save themselves...sadly maybe only the rich with private jets or helicopters but still....
@@jimmybeanchugger1832uge different. A nuclear missile is not at all a garantee to die. Your only going to die if the impact is right above or next to you. Hawaii is a whole state or islands. Depending on the nuclear missile’s size, it may only completely destroy one town on an island, while the other towns on that same island will receive lots of damage, but anyone in that town that is sheltering in a basement will survive. And if we are talking of a larger nuke, then the same can apply to neigbooring islands. If its not even a nuke, and just an explosive missile, then thats even less, with only a portion of the town destroyed. For example, it is estimated that over 600 thousands people injured by the japan bombing during ww2 actually survived, with more than a hundred thousands of them alive as of last year.
It's better to be safe than sorry. people need to get over this. Yeah it was awful and terrifying for a little but it was a false alarm. No sense ruining one man's life for it, if anything he exposed an unforseen problem with the system. Have it out with the government for not making so there was a way to cancel it sooner.
Totally agree. They should not ruin this guys life - anyone would have done the same given the circumstances. As for getting over the false alarm incident.. I think this will be a mental scar for many. Most will remember it for the rest of their lives but be at peace with it, but for many others it will be a traumatic experience for sure.
Actually, this guy is a hero! Before this happened, all we were told was to treat a missile threat as a tsunami or other natural disaster events. It was only after this incident that the Hawaii State Government got off their behinds to place contingency plans in place. Basically, the Hawaii State Government were caught with their pants down and the chaos ensued. Then they fired this guy? They fired the wrong people!. Ige, Shatz, and many others... coving their butts... shame, shame, shame... incompetence at the highest level!
I'm not big on conspiracies, I think most are pretty dumb- but someone said it before and to be honest I kinda think this could happen, they said it was planned. I could see it if the government intentionally made this happen just to see how we would really react in the event of a missile attack, that's valuable information to the government, I'm sure many people in the government would think it's an equal trade, the fear and panic in exchange for that vital info.
Don Francisco first and foremost I would like to inform you on how much of a moron you are. Second, in just a few seconds US missile defense systems can easily detect and determine a missile and where it’s headed.
Ryan May Actually romeo depaso it can take 2 to 5 min to detect a launch and 6 to 10 min to determin where it came from and where it is going. Also it can take several min to send out a eam trigger notification to broadcasters so you are actually talking realistically speaking several min. And did you know that a icbm from russia or china or any of the other various superpowers only takes about 10 to 15 min tops to strike a target (or sooner if the send it on a low orbit degridated path) anywhere on the surface of the planet? Before calling someone a moron you should do much more research on the subject.. It isnt a movie.. You dont have hours you have minutes to respond and it takes minutes to detect confirm track extrapolate a target and react to and counter it and on top of all of that warn everybody else.. The general population would only have 5 or 10 min to react. Thats assuming it came from north korea. Who missiles are a bet less advanced then ours.. For asomeone on a level playing field... The reality is much more grim.. There would be next to no warning if any available to the general public. And if you wish to contemplate the validity of my info.. Im happy to tell you it comes from my extensive nbc combat rediness training classes from the us army..(FOR THOSE WHO DONT KNOW NBC STANDS FOR NUCLEAR BIOLOGICAL AND CHEMICAL) and the info is accurate within the last 20 years and if anything the inaccuracy means for leaps in technyou can shorten those numbers. And they are still actually acurate i know such as i make it a point to update my knowledge on a regular basis.
GIVE THIS MAN HIS JOB BACK! Even a drill has to be taken seriously, this mistake has shown many people that tehy are uninformaed what to do and should be used to find issues with the system iteself. Rather one false alarm too many then no alarm at all!
Yes, I agree. The alarm did help everyone in Hawaii be prepared if it actually happened. I live in Hawaii and when this happened I am glad that we are prepared and know what to do if it actually were to happen!
I didn't get the EAS warning, but when I got a call, I knew it was bogus. NoKo doesn't have small nuclear warheads that can fit on their long range missiles, their missiles don't have the range or accuracy to hit Hawaii, their re-entry platform cannot survive the freefall back to Earth, so it'll just burn up from the friction, the true trajectory can't be determined only minutes after launch, ... So many holes to the alert, I told my friend it must be a prank and went back to sleep. (I had pulled an overnighter writing software, and went to bed at 5AM.)
For context, this guy was working in an underground bunker where alerts are originated from, and he was the one in front of the computer which is in charge of sending the alert over an API which cellular carriers, TV and radio stations, and cable providers automatically receive and must distribute to their subscribers/viewers. A Hawaii EMA official called the bunker for an apparent unscheduled test of the ballistic missile alert function, but a coworker put the call on speaker far away from this dude, which resulted in poor call quality. The EMA official is supposed to say “Exercise, Exercise, Exercise, ballistic missile.” But this dude claims all he heard was “Ballistic missile. Not a drill.” So as a result, he clicked the button to send out the actual warning message on the computer, instead of the test message because he thought it was real. The reason sirens didn’t sound statewide is because separate equipment is used to beam a signal from a satellite that triggers sirens placed all around the state. However, college campuses and some towns have their own private siren systems and have equipment that receives alerts from the IPAWS-OPEN server (The central server the US government uses to distribute Emergency Alerts) much like TV and Radio stations have, and their equipment received the alert and automatically sounded the sirens in college campuses and some towns.
I can't help but fear the missile was real, Ethan Hunt stopped the missile, and they covered it up to stop mass panic by saying it was a false alarm. And then they came up with a story and scapegoat to sell it.
We received text messages on our phones and tv’s which sounded like an amber alert. Not sure if it was announced on the radio. Hospitals hunkered down, buses stopped on the side of the ride. HUNDREDS maybe THOUSANDS of UHM students ran through campus like a stampede or herd running for our lives, and yes we fled the dorms early in the morning towards a dilapidated lecture hall with a fallout shelter sticker that was outdated. Cars sped towards the hills. Children were escorted down sewage systems. Phone lines were unable to make a call. People had heart attacks. If we were lucky to be connected on WiFi we said our goodbyes to loved ones. Many screams and crying, students trampling over each other in the streets. Some said prayers, life flashing across in our eyes. Others came to peace meanwhile there were those who became hysterical. Life was not the same for many weeks or months for those of us who had to go to therapy. For almost half a year prior to that event we had to prepare ourselves due to threats from North Korea, where we received emails on which part of a building we still be intact or best way to wash up if exposed to radiation and didn’t want our skin to fall off. We had wish that day didn’t come where there was something or not. 🤙 Mahalo
No direct order. Team was told it's an exercise, and only he decided to treat it as real. www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/37496908/recap-whats-happened-in-the-month-since-the-false-missile-alert
So to me it sounds like there was more going on and he was given instruction to send this message out. The reporter throughout this interview kind of puts the blame on him in a way. He was obviously following instructions accordingly and it makes me wonder what was REALLY going on here. This will further on cause more problems if an actual emergency takes place and I feel bad for this guy because he was only doing what he was trained to do.
@@penjameson I honestly feel like *it WAS real* but not even to sound like no govt conspiracy theorist but the govt wanted to sweep this under the rug and needed a fall guy because NK Kim Jong Un had been playing chicken with missiles around that time until Trump called his bluff, maybe that had something to do with it & maybe it didn’t but I don’t believe this was pure accident, I understand we’re humans and we make mistakes everyday, but there had to of been protocols for this type of situation, a group or team of people had to make this decision there’s no way one man had ALL that power *#StayWoke*
I find it interesting, the same day this happened Japan had a missle alert also, and the US navy had Anti missile ships in the area. So did the navy shoot one down and cover it up to avoid mass panic? hmmm.
Wasn't mistake he did it all correctly. They are saying (putting out) he pushed the wrong button....twice..... right...... SHM he is saying something totally different than what they put out.
GunPoint MLP if people can blame the government or some basically made up person for what it’s worth, some nameless faceless employee, then why would they not make up this guy to take the brunt, he’s not actually facing any consequences, and now the government is in the clear
@@some_random_hachiroku6126 russian who didnt fire back a missle from a false reading that if he did his job and fired back, we’d all be dead already due to nuclear warfare in the 90s I believe
Actually, we don't. Nothing in these broken systems here have gotten better and ripe for more disaster. Emergency systems and communications haven't improved, citizens as a whole are not more informed or prepared or know who or where to turn for what. The other night people in certain areas heard multiple alarms from pearl harbor in wee hrs about 315-345am, but didn't get a clear point of communication about it. A series of alarms that concerned those up and going to sm to ask each other questions. Trying to decipher if missile or tsunami threat or what. No text but alarm series of 3 about 3 min they reported and recored. I think from another base too, Hickam? Night before last we heard some serious massive jet/ aircraft response above our house, which is on a military flight path. Didn't really hear much of a possible test or strike south of Hawaii?, so maybe that is why the response we heard fly across. Couple years ago, the LIDAR had gone right by our house in wee hrs as well. It's a highly active area with all these bases and location. Keep us in your prayers.
You do realize north Korea has no submarines capable of launching an ICBM, right? Ignoring the fact that there is no scenario where shooting first is beneficial for NKorea.
Thats not what he was saying. He said a submarine launched a missile near North Korea, not that the submarine WAS North Korean, just that there was a submarine near North Korea and it launched a missile and the government and early detection systems mistook it as a North Korean launch.
For seven years he poked that button every month. Why did he poke the “missile button” twice in a row. I saw an updated story and he didn’t lose his job . He was re assigned to a different position. He acted out of protocol and was probably given the wrong information. FALL GUY........
Kenneth Howell - “duck and cover” duh , we all know that crawling under a 1960’s era grade school desk and covering the back of your neck will absolutely deflect a thermonuclear blast. It’s science! Remember! Duck! And cover!
This guy should be saluted and commended for showing that it took so long for the authorities to realize, a false alarm and b there is no threat. In that time if there was a nuke...goodbye Hawaii
@@DanielMartinez-bi8xg the Russians wouldn't do that since their relation with NK only consists of slavery. The Russians wouldn't risk the end of the world just for some free labour.
@@DanielMartinez-bi8xg: Russia and China would not launch their ICBMs at the US. They would think NoKo went rogue, and probably try to stop NoKo from launching more, as a retaliatory strike on NoKo by the US will annihilate Pyongyang, and create a growing and spreading cloud of nuclear radiation.
From what I’ve read about this incident, 1. He had a history of confusing drills with real events 2. Five other present workers understood it was a drill 3. Even after learning that it was a false alarm, he refused to respond and it took another employee to grab his mouse and cancel the alert.
#2 is not so impressive to me. In all likelihood, the other 5 (or the 4, excluding the guy who first picked up the phone, heard "exercise, exercise, exercise," and then put it on speaker) were simply suffering from normalcy bias. Of those who didn't get to hear "exercise, exercise, exercise," only this guy heard and seriously evaluated the literal meaning of the rest of the words. Everyone else was simply operating under the heuristic that there would never be a real event. This is kinda the default for how humans operate: they don't respond to what is actually said, but they respond to what they expected to hear. (You'll notice it a lot if you pay attention during conversations.) Only this guy was neurotic enough to hear words that literally meant a missile was coming and to believe them. And this would explain why he already had a history of confusing drills with real events. Likely, this organization has bad discipline around communication, routinely communicates drills that sound real, but most of the employees (bar one) are acclimated to ignoring this.
Stanislav Petrov had to make the same decision. He had the same training. At one moment he held the entire population of the world in his hand, had he done the same thing that this guy did, none of us would be here today. This man could have resulted in the end of the world, had we had a major enemy today like we did before.
Different context, sending the alarm in hawaii would tell the citizens that a missile was heading their way while Petrov was supposed to be telling the military officials that a missile was heading their way.
There is a computer program that has a PAPER CLIP come up and ask you "are you about to launch a nuclear threat warning? Can i help you?" AND THATS FOR AN EMAIL! This man is not real
I can’t imagine the terror of being a Hawaiian citizen in this situation but to me I’d rather it be a mistake than not. I feel bad for him and the civilians who basically had to deal with possible annihilation in a span of about an hr.
Does anyone els feel like this was staged and that an actual threat was on its way and they handled it over the pacific and needed a fall guy to act like there was no threat to begin with? Any one that ever messed up this bad was given screen time on the news.
poor guy, please don't send him death threats guys, he was only following protocol, i feel bad for him cos you could hear in his voice he was very worried
These jackasses didn’t anonymize him at all, think of how many people you yourself know in your life that you could identify from just their voice, let alone with clothes and head shape too. This guy’s life was in genuine danger with the death threats and they lie to him about anonymity, they should be locked up for at least a decade
I’ve heard some people say that maybe it was real but they didn’t want to cause mass panic because this was around the time North Korea and America tensions were huge in 2017-2018
You know honestly this man did something good. Now we know how everyone will react to something like that, might have learned something for the future.
Watch as this becomes a common occurrence, people get used to it, then BANG a real missile hits and everyone's dead. It's like the boy who cried wolf lol.
Sooo if he was following orders.. why arent the other people fired for it? Obviously somebody or maybe a technical failure caused him to think it was real
The shift supervisor ran an unscheduled drill by calling the center playing a military official. Unfortunately, he didn't use the usual script but read out a real notification, which included the words "this is not a drill." The employee shown here interepreted those words in exactly the way they were originally meant to mean. The supervisor, however, started the call with the prescribed "exercise, exercise, exercise," meaning "everything that follows absolutely is a drill." This employee says he missed that part because the phone was only put on speaker afterwards. Probably a big part of the reason this guy, and no one else, is taking the fall is because the agency claims he was an employee "of concern" for 10 years he worked for them. In other words, they found his personality unsuited, but, nevertheless, kept him employed for all those 10 years. Apparently, he had also twice before mistook drills for real events, but we have no specifics about those.
John Mirra the world isn’t a perfect place with instant results, there’s safety precautions and procedures they have to follow. It was a sketchy situation and he believed it was a missile, they had to make sure and then probably get higher authorities to authorize the recall of it.
That still bothers me that it took 38 minutes when the missile would take 15 minutes. There stance was that they had to go through certain procedures to send the all clear signal. In the meantime information was released on twitter then on television.
Feel bad for the dude. There were rumors that the warning system was actually hacked and they needed a scapegoat to take the blame so that people will think its a human error rather than a hole in the security.
This wasn’t the official story as I remember it. Didn’t the news report that he accidentally pushed a button, not that the system showed an incoming missile and he acted appropriately.
38 minutes to shut off an error/mistake? I don’t buy that for a second. There’s something deeper here, be it an actual threat that was intercepted mid flight, or an actual coordinated drill used to determine the effectiveness of such warnings and just how people would react. I sincerely hope for the latter and that if true, those in charge at least are using this as an opportunity to expand safety protocols and evac/ shelter infrastructure so that people won’t be in such a panic next time if (god forbid) it’s a legitimate threat.
That is, it WAS NOT an exercise. That would explain why the military also responded as if the threat was real. The military does not respond based on a civilian warning system!
A bit weird that a single guy is held responsible for releasing an alert of such scale. Even if that was the case, people who decided him to be the only responsible were real idiots.
Poor guy, he's just human. We all make mistakes. What if he decided not to do this and it wasn't false? .. He is a hero even though he caused more damage than good. His intention was positive.
So when a missile really is heading towards Hawaii what they gonna do? Not send out a real warning in fear they might lose their job? Wtf. It's better to send out a false alarm than nothing if it's actually real
They actually didn’t, or at least no sirens (Hawaii native here). They were questioned why not and they couldn’t come up with any good answers. Dinguses running Hawaii, I swear
I feel bad for him. The way i see it,it's better to be safe than sorry. What if it had been real, but he wasted time trying to figure out if he misheard it or not. We all make mistakes. Yes, this was a big one..but its still a mistake. He was trying to save lives.
The system bugged out on him and now he’s out of a job and receiving death threats, even better is that, after the investigation, the details pointed out to blame the guy were so small and insignificant that it’s scary they wouldn’t sound the alarm just to be safe.
Wait, I don't get it. He was told by another person, or the system that it was *not a drill?* And this is what he was supposed to do in the case of a real attack? `Then how is this in any way his fault? If this can be verified he should be offered his job back ASAP, and given a hefty compensation for being wrongfully scapegoated. Jesus Christ, what signal does this send to the next guy? We really don't want the person who has this job to second guess is decisions when the real one comes.
All these years later... I didn't know about this interview until now. Everything in my gut tells me that this was a real event. Thankfully it was intercepted. It's sad that instead of telling the public the truth... They have ruined this man's life. My deepest blessings in regards!
The man was in a lose-lose situation. He'd get fired for not going through with his training in the event it was real, but he'd also get fired for going through with his training in the event it wasn't real. I feel bad for him. He was just doing his job and accidentally caused a state-wide panic.
Well, this is confusing. The official story is that it was a planned drill and that he pushed the wrong button. Now, he is saying it wasn't a planned drill and they got it completely wrong and believed there was a missile. I remember reading once that the Russians got a warning like this and there was a man whose job it was to launch missiles at the USA. Yet, he went against his training and didn't launch as he felt it must be a mistake. It was a mistake, of course, the USA had not launched on Russia. But that is how close the USA came to have hundreds of missiles landing on it. If the system was automated there would be no human to think it might be a mistake. Frightening stuff.
This will only make the next guy really question his decision to send the warning which could cost lives.
Very good point
powerralley This guys did his job and did it well. Not an operator error on his end. There are various echelons above this guy that pushed that intel down
yeah...one of the higher ups told him that a missile is coming and that they should fire the alarm, usually they get a call from the coast...probably some of those guys trolled the worker and made that chaos, so they should have fired the one who told the worker to engage the missile alarm
@@thatrandomchannel8589 a very valid point. I'd rather have a false alarm then no alarm at all. Which is exactly what happened during Pearl Harbor
Sean Gillespie “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
George Santayana.
Better a false alarm then no alarm.
That doesn't make sense.
4stronaut yes it does your just so stupid that you don't understand
Nothing to see here notice his Masonic Ring 1:40-1:45
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Ain't not never going to be no learnen around here, ain't not now, ain't not never!
He was just following orders, poor guy
some body analogies aren’t your thing man😐
your a expert on ww2 I doubt that
some body except there’s a BIG difference, In Germany they were killing people were he was trying to protect lives. What would you have done if you thought a missile was coming?
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Lol you listen about as well as he does. Don’t get a job in emergency systems please...
He only heard half of a message and assumed the worst then sent out the alarm, kinda sound familiar?
I respect your opinion, but I think that people must have the good sense of before doing something that will change people routines.
No need to hide his identity when we all know it's Nicolas Cage
Made me feel undisturbed 😂😂😂
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If it was a real missile attack and he thought it was fake they would f him over anyways. This is one of those cases where they had to put the blame on someone and unfortunately he was it. I'm glad he spoke because everybody wants to point fingers but won't address the real problem.
ezday notice his Masonic ring 1:40-1:45
John 4:4 People like wearing things
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It doesn't really matter if it was a real missile attack he'd be dead, and all to blame him would also be dead.
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It’s a shame they interviewed a character that hasn’t been unlocked yet.
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1:02 I thought the interviewer was rubbing his foot against the other guys and I was shook
I did too lmao
LMAO WHATSHSGS
This is one of the most underrated comments in TH-cam history.
I died laughing. 😂
Why did they even show the feet? What does that add lmao
@@GenericUsername1388 making it look like he’s nervous
He’s taking the fall for someone else
By the way he speaks and his body movement it seems that he is. I wonder who’s really to blame 🤔 my guess is a group of people but they put the blame on him cause he was probably the most involved or maybe personal reasons? We’ll probably never know
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Pretty sure it wasn’t a false alarm.
@@Jc-587 I think it was more of a test on the people to see how they react. And then they cover it up as an accident
Nope. Why speculate when there is ample evidence this guy messed up? Oh, yeah. Everyone likes to make up stuff to pass off as real because it must be a conspiracy. Simps.
@@oahuhawaii2141 why did you use the word simp in your comment
There’s always a scapegoat for a broken process. This guy took the fall for a bigger problem.
I just hope they fixed the real problem .
I feel bad for him... I know that he made a huge mistake, but I really don't want him to have literal death threats.
Exactly, especially considering that he genuinely thought he was saving other peoples’ lives
@@ziczag299 I agree. I really hope this guy is okay
@@CATsissta Yeah he made a mistake but any human can make that mistake. None of the idiots sending him death threats wouldve done better.
@@shaelyn_world9501and bro did that job. Had there actually been a threat and he sought confirmation, people would have died. He followed his training and it cost him.
Yup
I believe this guy. He did what he was trained to do.
SixSentSoldiers He was told to press the drill button, yet he pressed the button which sent out the *REAL ALERT* he also had to press and select *YES, TWO TIMES* before it was even sent out.
Litty oof
why would they send a true to broadcast eam over a drill protocol? Eam drills and tests are generally required to state in the beginning middle and end of the body of the text and spoken or tts message that it is just a drill, for exactly that very reason. So such a mistake can not be made and mistaken by the general public as fact. So which moron decided to send a true to broadcast message as a drill to begin with? Only persons high in the foodchain can make the choice of what is sent. (True to broadcast means in event of a emergency it is true and correct and ready fo immeadiate broadcast.) And silent drills ie un aired drills or sys efficacy tests are usually conducted by sending 150 randomly picked words in a nondecernable order to test the systems functional readiness and it is done in such a manner so there can be yet again no mistakes made.
Ryan May: Did you see them show the software UI that sends the EAS warning? It's a simple screen with a drop-down list of alerts to send. Click on it, respond Yes to confirmation queries twice, and off it goes. One person on one terminal can do it. No dual-control with separate verification.
Now, the system is improved and HI-EMA added more layers of protocols to make sure it doesn't happen again, and a bogus warning can be cancelled and retracted quickly.
At HI-EMA, one person, on one terminal, can put out any one of the various alerts on a list of choices.
They had to redesign the software, plus add layers of protocol to improve the EAS system.
You mean the American actor?
If he truly did have reason to believe there was even a slight possibility that it was real then he 100% made the right decision. Some people panicked because of this false alarm, but imagine if it had been real and he presumed it was fake so didn't give a warning at all - I doubt anyone would prefer that.
I mean be honest here, what real difference would that make in a real nuke attack? Lol
@@jimmybeanchugger1832 I mean true, but the protocol should still be followed. Some people might be able to save themselves...sadly maybe only the rich with private jets or helicopters but still....
@@jimmybeanchugger1832 It does make a difference, night and day
@@jimmybeanchugger1832uge different. A nuclear missile is not at all a garantee to die.
Your only going to die if the impact is right above or next to you. Hawaii is a whole state or islands. Depending on the nuclear missile’s size, it may only completely destroy one town on an island, while the other towns on that same island will receive lots of damage, but anyone in that town that is sheltering in a basement will survive.
And if we are talking of a larger nuke, then the same can apply to neigbooring islands.
If its not even a nuke, and just an explosive missile, then thats even less, with only a portion of the town destroyed.
For example, it is estimated that over 600 thousands people injured by the japan bombing during ww2 actually survived, with more than a hundred thousands of them alive as of last year.
That’s a false equivalency. Those aren’t the only two options.
It's better to be safe than sorry. people need to get over this. Yeah it was awful and terrifying for a little but it was a false alarm. No sense ruining one man's life for it, if anything he exposed an unforseen problem with the system. Have it out with the government for not making so there was a way to cancel it sooner.
No it was a real missile launch by the deep state. Supposedly from a sub marine in the south china sea
@@dominator683 ROFL
STFU
Totally agree. They should not ruin this guys life - anyone would have done the same given the circumstances. As for getting over the false alarm incident.. I think this will be a mental scar for many. Most will remember it for the rest of their lives but be at peace with it, but for many others it will be a traumatic experience for sure.
Exactly 👏
Actually, this guy is a hero!
Before this happened, all we were told was to treat a missile threat as a tsunami or other natural disaster events.
It was only after this incident that the Hawaii State Government got off their behinds to place contingency plans in place.
Basically, the Hawaii State Government were caught with their pants down and the chaos ensued.
Then they fired this guy? They fired the wrong people!.
Ige, Shatz, and many others... coving their butts... shame, shame, shame... incompetence at the highest level!
I'm not big on conspiracies, I think most are pretty dumb- but someone said it before and to be honest I kinda think this could happen, they said it was planned. I could see it if the government intentionally made this happen just to see how we would really react in the event of a missile attack, that's valuable information to the government, I'm sure many people in the government would think it's an equal trade, the fear and panic in exchange for that vital info.
There's 5 steps to setting off alarm, all done by different ppl.
I don't believe story and think they're making this guy the patsy
Pam Ruby How would you know? Do you work for Hawaii's Emergency Management Agency? Probably not, so you wouldn't know.
Wrong. There's 5 steps to launching a missle, not simply to activate an alarm.
Pam Ruby why would there be 5 steps to set off an EMERGENCY alarm?? There is 1 step, press a button and it is sent out. Don’t be dumb.
Don Francisco first and foremost I would like to inform you on how much of a moron you are. Second, in just a few seconds US missile defense systems can easily detect and determine a missile and where it’s headed.
Ryan May
Actually romeo depaso it can take 2 to 5 min to detect a launch and 6 to 10 min to determin where it came from and where it is going. Also it can take several min to send out a eam trigger notification to broadcasters so you are actually talking realistically speaking several min. And did you know that a icbm from russia or china or any of the other various superpowers only takes about 10 to 15 min tops to strike a target (or sooner if the send it on a low orbit degridated path) anywhere on the surface of the planet? Before calling someone a moron you should do much more research on the subject.. It isnt a movie.. You dont have hours you have minutes to respond and it takes minutes to detect confirm track extrapolate a target and react to and counter it and on top of all of that warn everybody else..
The general population would only have 5 or 10 min to react. Thats assuming it came from north korea. Who missiles are a bet less advanced then ours.. For asomeone on a level playing field... The reality is much more grim.. There would be next to no warning if any available to the general public. And if you wish to contemplate the validity of my info.. Im happy to tell you it comes from my extensive nbc combat rediness training classes from the us army..(FOR THOSE WHO DONT KNOW NBC STANDS FOR NUCLEAR BIOLOGICAL AND CHEMICAL) and the info is accurate within the last 20 years and if anything the inaccuracy means for leaps in technyou can shorten those numbers. And they are still actually acurate i know such as i make it a point to update my knowledge on a regular basis.
GIVE THIS MAN HIS JOB BACK!
Even a drill has to be taken seriously, this mistake has shown many people that tehy are uninformaed what to do and should be used to find issues with the system iteself.
Rather one false alarm too many then no alarm at all!
I agree 100%
Sorry but everyone is just to bitchy to think about it
Yes, I agree. The alarm did help everyone in Hawaii be prepared if it actually happened. I live in Hawaii and when this happened I am glad that we are prepared and know what to do if it actually were to happen!
I didn't get the EAS warning, but when I got a call, I knew it was bogus. NoKo doesn't have small nuclear warheads that can fit on their long range missiles, their missiles don't have the range or accuracy to hit Hawaii, their re-entry platform cannot survive the freefall back to Earth, so it'll just burn up from the friction, the true trajectory can't be determined only minutes after launch, ...
So many holes to the alert, I told my friend it must be a prank and went back to sleep. (I had pulled an overnighter writing software, and went to bed at 5AM.)
This man should most definitely not have his job back. Just no.
For context, this guy was working in an underground bunker where alerts are originated from, and he was the one in front of the computer which is in charge of sending the alert over an API which cellular carriers, TV and radio stations, and cable providers automatically receive and must distribute to their subscribers/viewers. A Hawaii EMA official called the bunker for an apparent unscheduled test of the ballistic missile alert function, but a coworker put the call on speaker far away from this dude, which resulted in poor call quality. The EMA official is supposed to say “Exercise, Exercise, Exercise, ballistic missile.” But this dude claims all he heard was “Ballistic missile. Not a drill.” So as a result, he clicked the button to send out the actual warning message on the computer, instead of the test message because he thought it was real. The reason sirens didn’t sound statewide is because separate equipment is used to beam a signal from a satellite that triggers sirens placed all around the state. However, college campuses and some towns have their own private siren systems and have equipment that receives alerts from the IPAWS-OPEN server (The central server the US government uses to distribute Emergency Alerts) much like TV and Radio stations have, and their equipment received the alert and automatically sounded the sirens in college campuses and some towns.
Thx for this post 🙏✌️
I can't help but fear the missile was real, Ethan Hunt stopped the missile, and they covered it up to stop mass panic by saying it was a false alarm. And then they came up with a story and scapegoat to sell it.
No college campuses sounded an alarm. I am involved in an admin role for the university system. Can you mention which UH campus did?
We received text messages on our phones and tv’s which sounded like an amber alert. Not sure if it was announced on the radio. Hospitals hunkered down, buses stopped on the side of the ride. HUNDREDS maybe THOUSANDS of UHM students ran through campus like a stampede or herd running for our lives, and yes we fled the dorms early in the morning towards a dilapidated lecture hall with a fallout shelter sticker that was outdated. Cars sped towards the hills. Children were escorted down sewage systems. Phone lines were unable to make a call. People had heart attacks. If we were lucky to be connected on WiFi we said our goodbyes to loved ones. Many screams and crying, students trampling over each other in the streets. Some said prayers, life flashing across in our eyes. Others came to peace meanwhile there were those who became hysterical. Life was not the same for many weeks or months for those of us who had to go to therapy. For almost half a year prior to that event we had to prepare ourselves due to threats from North Korea, where we received emails on which part of a building we still be intact or best way to wash up if exposed to radiation and didn’t want our skin to fall off. We had wish that day didn’t come where there was something or not. 🤙 Mahalo
He did what he was told to do and he did it right, they should hire him back considering it’s not his fault.
Was that a direct order, and who gave it?
Don't shoot the messenger!
No direct order. Team was told it's an exercise, and only he decided to treat it as real. www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/37496908/recap-whats-happened-in-the-month-since-the-false-missile-alert
he never did it because he was a troll. he did it because he genuinely thought people were going to die.
or there really was a incoming missle and he had to keep from freaking the public out and a war breaking out by order
The problem wasn't pressing the button, it was the amount of time it took to stop the alarm.
So to me it sounds like there was more going on and he was given instruction to send this message out. The reporter throughout this interview kind of puts the blame on him in a way. He was obviously following instructions accordingly and it makes me wonder what was REALLY going on here. This will further on cause more problems if an actual emergency takes place and I feel bad for this guy because he was only doing what he was trained to do.
Your natural instincts are right. Mountain collapse in NK shortly thereafter? Do you believe in coincidences?
Exactly….
@@penjameson I honestly feel like *it WAS real* but not even to sound like no govt conspiracy theorist but the govt wanted to sweep this under the rug and needed a fall guy because NK Kim Jong Un had been playing chicken with missiles around that time until Trump called his bluff, maybe that had something to do with it & maybe it didn’t but I don’t believe this was pure accident, I understand we’re humans and we make mistakes everyday, but there had to of been protocols for this type of situation, a group or team of people had to make this decision there’s no way one man had ALL that power *#StayWoke*
I find it interesting, the same day this happened Japan had a missle alert also, and the US navy had Anti missile ships in the area.
So did the navy shoot one down and cover it up to avoid mass panic? hmmm.
source?
@@VantommHD it's just a conspiracy theory of theirs
Nah dude just human error japan could have noticed Hawaii's mess and probably just want to be ready if something happened to them
@@australianword3812 just like how epstein island was a conspiracy theory? see how that turned out
@@Tycho jeffrey island was 1 in a billion but people been knew about the island it was just when is he going to jail
BRO THIS IS LITERALLY THE LAST GUY YOU WANT TO FIRE, HE WONT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE TWICE
Wasn't mistake he did it all correctly. They are saying (putting out) he pushed the wrong button....twice..... right...... SHM he is saying something totally different than what they put out.
Why should we believe that nbc found the right guy
This is not a drill... it's an exercise!
That's dumb wording because I would never hear past the first bit! After that I would be in fight or flight mode.
How did Jim Carey get a call from his assistant before this text was sent out?
When you think you had a bad day at work, watch this...
Get outta here.
This is a scapegoat, it wasn't a false alarm it was planned.
The fact that you have 34 likes scares me
@@GunPointMLP20 Why? Can you not accept the truth?
GunPoint MLP if people can blame the government or some basically made up person for what it’s worth, some nameless faceless employee, then why would they not make up this guy to take the brunt, he’s not actually facing any consequences, and now the government is in the clear
I feel bad for the goat. They just sent it out to die with all its sins
@@GunPointMLP20 104 likes now.
His "mistake" is actually a blessing disguise. Because now the people know what to do in the case of a real situation.
Do you know Stanislav Petrov?
@@some_random_hachiroku6126 russian who didnt fire back a missle from a false reading that if he did his job and fired back, we’d all be dead already due to nuclear warfare in the 90s I believe
Actually, we don't. Nothing in these broken systems here have gotten better and ripe for more disaster. Emergency systems and communications haven't improved, citizens as a whole are not more informed or prepared or know who or where to turn for what. The other night people in certain areas heard multiple alarms from pearl harbor in wee hrs about 315-345am, but didn't get a clear point of communication about it. A series of alarms that concerned those up and going to sm to ask each other questions. Trying to decipher if missile or tsunami threat or what. No text but alarm series of 3 about 3 min they reported and recored. I think from another base too, Hickam? Night before last we heard some serious massive jet/ aircraft response above our house, which is on a military flight path. Didn't really hear much of a possible test or strike south of Hawaii?, so maybe that is why the response we heard fly across. Couple years ago, the LIDAR had gone right by our house in wee hrs as well. It's a highly active area with all these bases and location. Keep us in your prayers.
@@TMiller808 Jesus man, that foreign aid to Ukraine would've come in handy for you lot ... great to see the US is concerned about their own folk
Hes telling the truth they shot it down and covered it up
1:00 called in sick
It was real, Submarine Launched a missle near North Korea...It was Shot down. This guy shouldnt be fired.
Exactly. Japan made the same "mistake" as this guy within the same day
You do realize north Korea has no submarines capable of launching an ICBM, right? Ignoring the fact that there is no scenario where shooting first is beneficial for NKorea.
Thats not what he was saying. He said a submarine launched a missile near North Korea, not that the submarine WAS North Korean, just that there was a submarine near North Korea and it launched a missile and the government and early detection systems mistook it as a North Korean launch.
Link me any proof please.
Silly Conspiracy Theorists.
People who send death threats probably has no heart, we all make mistakes.
"ITS NOT A DRILL"
"ok alarm engaged"
"wtf why"
"what"
For seven years he poked that button every month. Why did he poke the “missile button” twice in a row. I saw an updated story and he didn’t lose his job . He was re assigned to a different position. He acted out of protocol and was probably given the wrong information.
FALL GUY........
The alarm is great so what do we do after the alarm goes off?
Kenneth Howell - “duck and cover” duh , we all know that crawling under a 1960’s era grade school desk and covering the back of your neck will absolutely deflect a thermonuclear blast. It’s science!
Remember! Duck! And cover!
Living on an island...probably find a cave or something
Run for the hills
Stop, drop and roll
Go up to high ground.
This guy should be saluted and commended for showing that it took so long for the authorities to realize, a false alarm and b there is no threat. In that time if there was a nuke...goodbye Hawaii
The entire Nation should have gotten the alert.
What is someone in New York gonna do if a missile is gonna hit Hawaii in 15 minutes?
@@boomstick_ well if NK did that then the US would send their missile then Russia would hit us back.
@@DanielMartinez-bi8xg the Russians wouldn't do that since their relation with NK only consists of slavery. The Russians wouldn't risk the end of the world just for some free labour.
@@DanielMartinez-bi8xg: Russia and China would not launch their ICBMs at the US. They would think NoKo went rogue, and probably try to stop NoKo from launching more, as a retaliatory strike on NoKo by the US will annihilate Pyongyang, and create a growing and spreading cloud of nuclear radiation.
From what I’ve read about this incident,
1. He had a history of confusing drills with real events
2. Five other present workers understood it was a drill
3. Even after learning that it was a false alarm, he refused to respond and it took another employee to grab his mouse and cancel the alert.
#2 is not so impressive to me. In all likelihood, the other 5 (or the 4, excluding the guy who first picked up the phone, heard "exercise, exercise, exercise," and then put it on speaker) were simply suffering from normalcy bias. Of those who didn't get to hear "exercise, exercise, exercise," only this guy heard and seriously evaluated the literal meaning of the rest of the words. Everyone else was simply operating under the heuristic that there would never be a real event. This is kinda the default for how humans operate: they don't respond to what is actually said, but they respond to what they expected to hear. (You'll notice it a lot if you pay attention during conversations.) Only this guy was neurotic enough to hear words that literally meant a missile was coming and to believe them. And this would explain why he already had a history of confusing drills with real events. Likely, this organization has bad discipline around communication, routinely communicates drills that sound real, but most of the employees (bar one) are acclimated to ignoring this.
Stanislav Petrov had to make the same decision. He had the same training. At one moment he held the entire population of the world in his hand, had he done the same thing that this guy did, none of us would be here today. This man could have resulted in the end of the world, had we had a major enemy today like we did before.
Different context, sending the alarm in hawaii would tell the citizens that a missile was heading their way while Petrov was supposed to be telling the military officials that a missile was heading their way.
There is a computer program that has a PAPER CLIP come up and ask you "are you about to launch a nuclear threat warning? Can i help you?"
AND THATS FOR AN EMAIL!
This man is not real
It wasn’t fake the missile was real and the military took it out with a top secret space based weapon system
Poor guy must feel horrible. He shouldn't be punished... it was a terrible accident, but no reason to be hurt.
I can’t imagine the terror of being a Hawaiian citizen in this situation but to me I’d rather it be a mistake than not. I feel bad for him and the civilians who basically had to deal with possible annihilation in a span of about an hr.
Does anyone els feel like this was staged and that an actual threat was on its way and they handled it over the pacific and needed a fall guy to act like there was no threat to begin with? Any one that ever messed up this bad was given screen time on the news.
poor guy, please don't send him death threats guys, he was only following protocol, i feel bad for him cos you could hear in his voice he was very worried
These jackasses didn’t anonymize him at all, think of how many people you yourself know in your life that you could identify from just their voice, let alone with clothes and head shape too. This guy’s life was in genuine danger with the death threats and they lie to him about anonymity, they should be locked up for at least a decade
I’ve heard some people say that maybe it was real but they didn’t want to cause mass panic because this was around the time North Korea and America tensions were huge in 2017-2018
Give this man his job back. He would never make the same mistake ever again
He cannot be hired because of a nervous breakdown.
“Seriously ngl was the best prank ever!! The look on their faces was just priceless”
1:07 awkward showing of both men’s feet really close to each other 👀
Still doesn’t make since on why it took them so long to say it was a false alarm.
If this was real... most of the people on the island wouldn’t know what to do and would be dead🤨.
This dudes just colateral damage. I think something really happened that day thats been kept under wraps and he was just following procedure.
You know honestly this man did something good. Now we know how everyone will react to something like that, might have learned something for the future.
Why are you threatening someone who’s just tryna save lives like ? I mean wat
Watch as this becomes a common occurrence, people get used to it, then BANG a real missile hits and everyone's dead. It's like the boy who cried wolf lol.
Exactly what I was thinking
Sooo if he was following orders.. why arent the other people fired for it? Obviously somebody or maybe a technical failure caused him to think it was real
The shift supervisor ran an unscheduled drill by calling the center playing a military official. Unfortunately, he didn't use the usual script but read out a real notification, which included the words "this is not a drill." The employee shown here interepreted those words in exactly the way they were originally meant to mean.
The supervisor, however, started the call with the prescribed "exercise, exercise, exercise," meaning "everything that follows absolutely is a drill." This employee says he missed that part because the phone was only put on speaker afterwards.
Probably a big part of the reason this guy, and no one else, is taking the fall is because the agency claims he was an employee "of concern" for 10 years he worked for them. In other words, they found his personality unsuited, but, nevertheless, kept him employed for all those 10 years. Apparently, he had also twice before mistook drills for real events, but we have no specifics about those.
if he realized this was a mistake why they didnt correct it immediatly
John Mirra the world isn’t a perfect place with instant results, there’s safety precautions and procedures they have to follow. It was a sketchy situation and he believed it was a missile, they had to make sure and then probably get higher authorities to authorize the recall of it.
That still bothers me that it took 38 minutes when the missile would take 15 minutes. There stance was that they had to go through certain procedures to send the all clear signal. In the meantime information was released on twitter then on television.
It’s not that easy.
it's better for a
FALSE ALARM
than the REAL THING
Seriously. It was an accident, we’re human and all unfortunately do dumb crap.
Feel bad for the dude. There were rumors that the warning system was actually hacked and they needed a scapegoat to take the blame so that people will think its a human error rather than a hole in the security.
Hopefully they use that data on how people reacted to better prepare for a real threat.
Bless this guy, No one was hurt, so thats a Good thing . something he doesn't have to be burden with. That's the Main focus. Pray he finds peace
This wasn’t the official story as I remember it. Didn’t the news report that he accidentally pushed a button, not that the system showed an incoming missile and he acted appropriately.
That’s what they originally thought that happened because that video or broadcast happened the day after the alwarm
38 minutes to shut off an error/mistake? I don’t buy that for a second. There’s something deeper here, be it an actual threat that was intercepted mid flight, or an actual coordinated drill used to determine the effectiveness of such warnings and just how people would react. I sincerely hope for the latter and that if true, those in charge at least are using this as an opportunity to expand safety protocols and evac/ shelter infrastructure so that people won’t be in such a panic next time if (god forbid) it’s a legitimate threat.
Better to have it and need it than to need it and not have it.
Anyone here after watching the Never Ever episode?
Yeah...
Imagine if he switched places with Stan.
Ah yes, people giving death threats to someone they never saw and will never see because of a false alarm. Americans
NSA clandestine test to see how vulnerable we are, this guy is the scape goat, imo
Actually just a bad actor. The whole thing went exactly as planned
That is, it WAS NOT an exercise. That would explain why the military also responded as if the threat was real. The military does not respond based on a civilian warning system!
Just shut up
@@impudentmegalodaunt make a good point against him
Anybody else noticed a Masonic ring @ 1:42
A bit weird that a single guy is held responsible for releasing an alert of such scale. Even if that was the case, people who decided him to be the only responsible were real idiots.
Poor guy, he's just human. We all make mistakes. What if he decided not to do this and it wasn't false? ..
He is a hero even though he caused more damage than good. His intention was positive.
It wasn’t his fault. It wasn’t a mistake
I don’t know did he really press wrong button or was ordered to do so, if it was ordered then it's not his fault
I mean, if it really wasn’t his fault.. Whoever decided to fire him should be the one getting fired.
At least this could also help people get a grip and prepare in case it is *not* a drill
Bruh WHY THEY acting Like If anyone is perfect
So when a missile really is heading towards Hawaii what they gonna do? Not send out a real warning in fear they might lose their job? Wtf. It's better to send out a false alarm than nothing if it's actually real
Lmao this seems way too sketchy I cant believe it
Does anyone know if Hawaii got a warning about those fires that happened a year ago?
They actually didn’t, or at least no sirens (Hawaii native here). They were questioned why not and they couldn’t come up with any good answers. Dinguses running Hawaii, I swear
I heard he was upset because he didn’t get enough pineapple in his pizza.
Angelo 23 ya I don't blame him
I feel bad for him. The way i see it,it's better to be safe than sorry. What if it had been real, but he wasted time trying to figure out if he misheard it or not. We all make mistakes. Yes, this was a big one..but its still a mistake. He was trying to save lives.
I feel really bad because everybody makes mistakes and supposedly he was following orders but it was just a really big mistake :/
How was it his mistake if he was following orders?
They have now suspended the drill indefinitely... That's not suspicious at all.
Hold up a minute just because of a false alarm he's got a death theat?!
Maybe from one of the parents that put their child in a storm drain hoping they might survive a nuclear attack...because that isn't traumatizing.
Bro everyone saying people should’nt give this guy death threats. This guy gave everyone in Hawaii a death threat😭
The system bugged out on him and now he’s out of a job and receiving death threats, even better is that, after the investigation, the details pointed out to blame the guy were so small and insignificant that it’s scary they wouldn’t sound the alarm just to be safe.
Wait, I don't get it. He was told by another person, or the system that it was *not a drill?* And this is what he was supposed to do in the case of a real attack?
`Then how is this in any way his fault? If this can be verified he should be offered his job back ASAP, and given a hefty compensation for being wrongfully scapegoated.
Jesus Christ, what signal does this send to the next guy? We really don't want the person who has this job to second guess is decisions when the real one comes.
Something isn't quite right with that dude...I don't even need to see his face, just hear his voice.
He should sue
Have a slight feeling it wasn't the guy in the video :')
There were definitely something else going on there. This guy is just a fall guy.
All these years later... I didn't know about this interview until now. Everything in my gut tells me that this was a real event. Thankfully it was intercepted. It's sad that instead of telling the public the truth... They have ruined this man's life. My deepest blessings in regards!
I mean you have to remember he thought he was gonna die too
Shall we play a game?
The man was in a lose-lose situation.
He'd get fired for not going through with his training in the event it was real, but he'd also get fired for going through with his training in the event it wasn't real.
I feel bad for him. He was just doing his job and accidentally caused a state-wide panic.
Surprised they didn't cover up his voice. Now anyone watching this will know who he is based onnhis voice. Doh.
Well, this is confusing. The official story is that it was a planned drill and that he pushed the wrong button. Now, he is saying it wasn't a planned drill and they got it completely wrong and believed there was a missile.
I remember reading once that the Russians got a warning like this and there was a man whose job it was to launch missiles at the USA. Yet, he went against his training and didn't launch as he felt it must be a mistake. It was a mistake, of course, the USA had not launched on Russia. But that is how close the USA came to have hundreds of missiles landing on it. If the system was automated there would be no human to think it might be a mistake.
Frightening stuff.
38 Mins no one could not it he’s not the only one to blame
Sma 556 seems to me more than just this guy should be fired
Or they tell us what really happened
Poor guy..