Personally I think the cover art is great. True that Jackson is not shown on a horse, but was he always on a horse in battle? Even if it's incorrect to show him on foot, he and his troops are geometrically depicting a "stone wall", which is an elegant artistic rendering evoking his nickname. And when General Bee gave Jackson his famous nickname, he said "There is Jackson standing there like a stone wall". He didn't say "on his horse". Also, the picture draws your focus to Jackson's left hand, which was in fact injured at Bull Run by a Union rifle shot. Jackson refused significant treatment to the hand, such as amputation of the finger, and the art work correctly reflects this stoicism. That it's Jackson's left hand is also significant, as the religious Jackson often raised his left arm during battle while he prayed, which may have had a calming effect on his troops (it was also said that Jackson believed his left arm was longer than his right, and that raising his left arm was helpful to his circulation). Jackson's left arm became significant again at Chancellorsville, when he was accidently shot by his own troops through the left arm, which had to be amputated - after which he soon died. And upon which news Robert E. Lee noted that Jackson had lost his left arm, and thus in dying he (Lee) had lost his right arm (Jackson). Aside from the cover art disagreement, great review. Though I'd say that the map is not traditional Avalon Hill 1960's, but looks more like something from SPI in the late 70's or GDW in the early 80's. Avalon Hill might not have tweaked the design much from their original 1960's non-release, but the map does not look to me like a 1960's AH map. And one more minor quibble, AH's Civil War designs of the early 1960's were "centennial" not "bicentennial". The USA did have a big focus on the "bicentennial" in 1976, but that was for the Declaration of Independence.
I have this game and love it. I love the look of the map and the texture and color and presentation of the counters. Russian Front by AH had similar counters in texture.
With regard to the brigade defence value being less than the total for the individual regiments, I've always assumed it was a deliberate allowance, leaving infantry to screen artillery. Also, the red circled zero value leaders are dummy pieces used in the optional rule 2 'fog of war' (not that I've explored that rule).
Nice video Gilbert. I like seeing the older games. Just something about them and I have bought several of the original prints and several of the reprints. Sometimes less is more.
I always like your relaxed style of presentation Gilbert. I have a number of old ACW games and your videos have re ignited an interest in them. I am currently playing solo AHs Devils Den. This is a very tactical level game, for example regimental officers can order companies to volley fire or attach bayonets. Could you recommend a modern ACW game with up to date production values. I would very much be more interested in a strategic type game.
Hey Gilbert first of all I love your videos, very detailed in explanation of the games, there faults and strengths, as well as personal opinion. I was wondering have you ever or are you going to do any of the other Avalon Hill war games, like D-Day, or Tactics, or Tactics II, Caesars Legions or Afrika Korps WII Desert Campaign. I have all those games and more all original purchases back in the day, but never had a chance to play them, couldn't find anyone interested at the time. They just stayed in my closet, brought them all out when I ran across your videos.
Hello Christopher, I'm glad you like the videos. I have fun making them. I'm not that into WWII land games, I think I only have one. Normandy 44. I had owned Caesar's Legions back in the 70's but ultimately did not keep it. I think I have done nearly all of the Avalon Hill games that I own except maybe '688 Attack Sub'
Hey Gilbert! My uncle and I have been playing the Gettysburg game after I got it for 2 bucks at a antique shop. We have been interested in getting a different Civil War game/battle. What would you recommend as the best or a must have?
The answer to that one is too vast depending on your experience with games. You mentioned that you played 'Gettysburg', but didn't say which one? If the Gettysburg 1964 version was your first war game you might want to start off with something simple. The "Bull Run" game that I did the review on is pretty good but it is dated and out of print. It is not all that rare though and should be easy to get.
@@XLEGION1 Its Gettysburg the 125th anniversary edition, not sure if that's the one you mentioned or not but I understand it's a more simple game for beginners. I will look into Bull Run, any others that I should consider? Thank you for responding!
I bought this when it came out and I was really disappointed with the quality of the counters. In my sample there were a number of counters that were very poorly die-cut and there was something about the stock used for the core of the counters that really put me off so the game remained unpunched and unplayed. I must say, though, that counters in your video look better after having been punched and trimmed. I still have this game somewhere in my game stash so perhaps I should give it another look. Thanks for another interesting video, Gilbert. :)
Personally I think the cover art is great. True that Jackson is not shown on a horse, but was he always on a horse in battle? Even if it's incorrect to show him on foot, he and his troops are geometrically depicting a "stone wall", which is an elegant artistic rendering evoking his nickname. And when General Bee gave Jackson his famous nickname, he said "There is Jackson standing there like a stone wall". He didn't say "on his horse".
Also, the picture draws your focus to Jackson's left hand, which was in fact injured at Bull Run by a Union rifle shot. Jackson refused significant treatment to the hand, such as amputation of the finger, and the art work correctly reflects this stoicism. That it's Jackson's left hand is also significant, as the religious Jackson often raised his left arm during battle while he prayed, which may have had a calming effect on his troops (it was also said that Jackson believed his left arm was longer than his right, and that raising his left arm was helpful to his circulation). Jackson's left arm became significant again at Chancellorsville, when he was accidently shot by his own troops through the left arm, which had to be amputated - after which he soon died. And upon which news Robert E. Lee noted that Jackson had lost his left arm, and thus in dying he (Lee) had lost his right arm (Jackson).
Aside from the cover art disagreement, great review. Though I'd say that the map is not traditional Avalon Hill 1960's, but looks more like something from SPI in the late 70's or GDW in the early 80's. Avalon Hill might not have tweaked the design much from their original 1960's non-release, but the map does not look to me like a 1960's AH map.
And one more minor quibble, AH's Civil War designs of the early 1960's were "centennial" not "bicentennial". The USA did have a big focus on the "bicentennial" in 1976, but that was for the Declaration of Independence.
I remember and used to play this game back in the day. Unfortunately I don't have this game anymore, lost it time. Nice to see this vid.
I have this game and love it. I love the look of the map and the texture and color and presentation of the counters. Russian Front by AH had similar counters in texture.
thank you again. great job
With regard to the brigade defence value being less than the total for the individual regiments, I've always assumed it was a deliberate allowance, leaving infantry to screen artillery. Also, the red circled zero value leaders are dummy pieces used in the optional rule 2 'fog of war' (not that I've explored that rule).
Nice video Gilbert. I like seeing the older games. Just something about them and I have bought several of the original prints and several of the reprints. Sometimes less is more.
Yes, I like these 'oldies' too. I still purchase some of the newer ones of course but some of these older titles 'have a charm' all themselves.
Another interesting review. I have the game still in the box. Maybe I should get it out and try it. Thanks for digging it up.
I would love it if you did a review and played a couple of turns of Little around Top by Avalon Hill.
Another excellent job. Hope I can find to purchase. Steve
Great video, thanks! Gilbert, you’re a class act!
I always like your relaxed style of presentation Gilbert. I have a number of old ACW games and your videos have re ignited an interest in them. I am currently playing solo AHs Devils Den. This is a very tactical level game, for example regimental officers can order companies to volley fire or attach bayonets. Could you recommend a modern ACW game with up to date production values. I would very much be more interested in a strategic type game.
My favourite strategic Civil War game is now GMT's - The U.S. Civil War but be forewarned it can get complex. However there is a basic game included.
Hey Gilbert first of all I love your videos, very detailed in explanation of the games, there faults and strengths, as well as personal opinion. I was wondering have you ever or are you going to do any of the other Avalon Hill war games, like D-Day, or Tactics, or Tactics II, Caesars Legions or Afrika Korps WII Desert Campaign. I have all those games and more all original purchases back in the day, but never had a chance to play them, couldn't find anyone interested at the time. They just stayed in my closet, brought them all out when I ran across your videos.
Hello Christopher, I'm glad you like the videos. I have fun making them. I'm not that into WWII land games, I think I only have one. Normandy 44. I had owned Caesar's Legions back in the 70's but ultimately did not keep it. I think I have done nearly all of the Avalon Hill games that I own except maybe '688 Attack Sub'
Hey Gilbert! My uncle and I have been playing the Gettysburg game after I got it for 2 bucks at a antique shop. We have been interested in getting a different Civil War game/battle. What would you recommend as the best or a must have?
The answer to that one is too vast depending on your experience with games. You mentioned that you played 'Gettysburg', but didn't say which one? If the Gettysburg 1964 version was your first war game you might want to start off with something simple. The "Bull Run" game that I did the review on is pretty good but it is dated and out of print. It is not all that rare though and should be easy to get.
@@XLEGION1 Its Gettysburg the 125th anniversary edition, not sure if that's the one you mentioned or not but I understand it's a more simple game for beginners. I will look into Bull Run, any others that I should consider? Thank you for responding!
mi primer juego dios como me gustaba
This is the first wargame I bought
I bought this when it came out and I was really disappointed with the quality of the counters. In my sample there were a number of counters that were very poorly die-cut and there was something about the stock used for the core of the counters that really put me off so the game remained unpunched and unplayed. I must say, though, that counters in your video look better after having been punched and trimmed. I still have this game somewhere in my game stash so perhaps I should give it another look. Thanks for another interesting video, Gilbert. :)
Yes, the cover is hideous. Even back then, I knew that Jackson wore his dark blue VMI uniform at the battle.