I was so disappointed that this series was so short. Not only are the cases & science extremely interesting, I love Prof. Sue Black & she put together a phenomenal team that are not only top in their fields but their personalities mesh together beautifully. There's no animosity in this team. They enjoy what they do & have the ability to be light hearted & serious simultaneously which really is key to any team.
I agree -- sadly, the way I heard Prof. Black tell it in another documentary, the rather unprofessional/unscientific demands of the producers on her time and nerves soon became incompatible with her dedication to her work. Prof. B went along with the project as long as she could (or had to), but then she bowed out -- far too soon for our taste and curiosity. Bless her! I have such tremendous respect for her.
It was an incredible time in British history. My direct ancestors were already in New England when war broke out. One of my ancestor's cousins was motivated enough to return and fight with the Royalists. He never returned to New England.
There were two series of four episodes each, in 2010 and 2011. I don't know why there aren't more of them but all the experts on the programme have very established careers in their field and it's probably not easy to get everyone together at the same time to film due to work commitments.
@@MrOnionterror The way I heard it, Prof. Black didn't appreciate the production company's lack of appreciation for the time their demands were taking away from Black's extremely important work. So she refused to do any more episodes and that was that. Black's priorities are straight and true and she was not ready to compromise them for mere entertainment purposes. At least that is how I recall her much more erudite description of the situation as she saw it.
@@BJones-yw4ddsad but understandable. The conundrum is that her stature grows with the production of these shows that are aimed at the public. That gives her more opportunities and acclaim hence more funding for HER pet projects.
@@kathrynwitte3398here’s a concept, not everyone wants that. Some people would rather live happily in the shadows that in the discomfort of the public eye. Having a scientific community looking behind her work is much more different than the general public.
@@rocacoshi here’s a concept, if you don’t want to “live life in the public eye”, don’t accept a check and film a series for television, report on VIDEO OR FILM from war zones OR accept job offers, raises, public funding or Queen’s Honors for highlighting the job you were already doing.
I am a succker when it comes to arquiology . These team of three women is absolutely amaizing. Very professional and thorough, they really give us all a sense of the peoples and their history.
Sue black it's a great mind. Inspiration for every woman or person. Should be a icon like madonna or others womans wo oppened ways to all of us girls of 30/40 beeing all what we have opportunity today....it's not ideal yet but they all give us the chance
The "rare" Syndrome these two guys had, as well as their very strong build/muscles, is the story of my family medical history. Strong, large men and women, and the disease shared by our bloodline - it can be directly traced back to the Vikings. The body type as well as the disease. My grandmother, father, sister and brother all had it.
MEDICAL PERSONNEL/SCIENTISTS only become aware of situations like your family if the folks affected are not prevented by fear of social stigma from making it KNOWN to Specialists. The numbers only reflect KNOWN cases. YA DON'T KNOW WHATCHA DON'T KNOW. Just sayin....
I find this extremely interesting. I’m sorry you’ve gotten negative comments about this. My family has a congenital deformity in the dental department. Either not enough teeth forms, no permanent teeth form or one heck of a gap in the front teeth. Some deformities can be traced back, others can’t because it skips. However it’s so interesting and it can be important. Missed my calling I guess
Enjoy watching all the time at home here in 🇰🇪 Kenya. Smart ladies. Will watch more with my high school daughter (in boarding sch) when schools here close this Friday for Xmas break (till Jan) she loves human anatomy.
Amazing faces on these 2 men. Usually they dont look right but these professionals got it just right. Handsome lads. Great series. I never get tired of these.
Fascinating, thanks for posting these. Obviously not within the scope or budget of the production, but wouldn't it have been interesting to have someone explore records in Hull for evidence of that congenital condition to see if there are living descendants of these two men? Also wondering if the DNA results found in archaeology are as a matter of course entered into the DNA databases that are becoming popular today... imagine someone getting a result saying you are connected to someone dug up at some battlefield or castle.
11 weeks drinking only a beer?! They must have been totally dehydrated. ..very interesting episode for sure :) I always wanted to be an archaeologist but my father told me I will be very poor and if I want to live well as an archaeologist, I would have to be a famous one. :p So I become a geologist instead, working in oil ind. Now I'm in Green one! ;) :) ..and psychology is my passion. But archeology was my dream job. So.., I love it! Give us more! ;)
in the middleages it was quiet common to drink beer not water, the beer had alcohol but it was low. so even young kids had beer not water bc the water would cause you to be sick.
Beer wasn't like what it is today. In the middle ages, beer was alcoholic, but even the strongest wasn't nearly as strong as a modern beer. Back then, water was terribly polluted and would make anyone who drank it very sick. Beer, however, wouldn't make you sick - so they drank a lot of it!
I so wish you had more seasons, but I think I know why you don't. I know I'm only getting to see these episodes on TH-cam, but I think I know why you aren't producing any more seasons for TV. Three of the tests that are performed on the bones and teeth are very expensive, plus the travel, paying the specialists for their time, and so on would become cost prohibitive. And maybe the date and time slot of the show had too much competition for viewers. Too bad. :o( I really like History Cold Case and have watched all episodes several times. I've been watching all of them again today.
Actually, if I'm remembering correctly, they wanted to do a second season, but Professor Black refused to do another due to how the studio handled filming the first. There's a short interview done by a university student with her where she briefly talks about why she wouldn't do this again. Pretty sure it's still available on TH-cam.
You do realize the person who posted this who you are responding to, are NOT the people that make this show. Rather they just recorded it and are trying to make money off the adrevenue and most of these accounts will be closed before getting too many views or subscribers.
@@kipral As I remember, in part she bridled at the overproduced, dramatized nature of popular-interest scientific documentaries. Everything has to be rigorously simplified (not "dumbed down" of course; that would be impolite!).
It is a fascinating programme, and I really enjoyed the series when it was first televised, but regarding this episode, why could they not be properly buried, like soldiers who were found after the great war, given a decent burial, and honoured as soldiers, who, irrespective of how they died, were willing to die for our freedom.
My guess, if they died of disease, they would want to bury them as quickly as possible for fear of the corpses causing further infection, a lesson hard learned from 100s of years of epidemics including several plague epidemics. And if they were dying in such numbers and in the middle of a military operation to boot, there simply would not have been time to dig individual graves for every victim.
The civil war in the 17th century was not the first English civil war. There was the civil war in the 12th century waged between Stephen of Blois and his cousin, the Empress Matilda, for the crown.
Both of those conflicts are known by more specific names though. Matilda vs Stephen is known as The Anarchy, and the Wars of the Roses is known as, well, the Wars of the Roses. The 17th century civil war isn’t known by another name, it’s just The Civil War.
Great show. But in their study on the Stirling Castle man they said that a high intake of marine life would have indicated a member of an army and not necessarily someone from a coastal location.
And was that in a later episode? They probably didn't have the information as they were making this one. I do think though while it's interesting what they do, sometimes they seem to come to their conclusions a bit too quickly.
That's what I thought too! They said that fish was often used to feed the army. In that case, if they had taken samples from some of the other remains, they would have come to the same conclusion... but that would have cost more money.
You have to look at how the military works in these two time periods. The Sterling man was thought to be a knight, if that is true, fighting and campaigning was his job to put it simply. He would have starting at a young age training and going on campaigns to become a knight as an adult, that means you eat some pretty crappy and bland food over and over again, trust me I was in the Marine Corps haha. By the time of two soldiers in this episode things were a little different, much of the armies were volunteers, which means that they didn't grow up in the military but came from regular jobs and went home after their enlistment was over. They fought for a period of time, sometimes as short as a couple of months then left the army.
I don't think the disabled man's father necessarily had a bike. He may have lost his wife during childbirth and remarried, at which point the second disabled man was conceived and later born.
Babies are born with loose joints and soft bones and limbs. This would've become fused later on as the child grew older and the bones became set for adulthood.
The man with the fused arm and leg, could very well have been an archer. My question is did they have archers during the civil war in the late 1600’s? They weren’t mentioned when Zanthi was at her weapons demonstration.
There are records of Bows, Arrows, released from the Tower. (600?) And there was a drill of "The Double-Armed Man" pertaining to the Archery arms issued to a 'Gentle man of the Pike' Pike grounded Vertical, stabilizing the bow arm. (Second Rank anti-Foot offensive weapon ? (unlikely, against Horse )) "I think a bright Idea, at the time, but once away from London siege..... "
In the early 17th century there are laws that forbid the eating of meat on Wednesdays, Fridays and Saturdays. Period cookbooks are full of fish-day receipts. I'm surprised this isn't discussed in the isotope data. Is it just salt-water fish? Would it matter if it was salted?
Great series. However I feel they rushed this case. Alot of possibilities were left out. I think if they can relook at it again with new technology, it would be great.
There's thousands and thousands of these graves in the UK so the builders was probably going to build houses there and found the graves.Then builders have to cease immediately and Archaeologist come in and do there bit..
shows spoilt by the ridiculous 'experts' pretending they have no idea about things. Like they are teaching 3 yr olds and need to build the tension. Just tell the facts and give a time line and that would be more interesting.
This show looks familiar....isn't this THE DECRYPTERS?!!!. I remembered liking this show a lot and then the a**holes at Nat Geo took it off after only about 6 episodes. There are many here I have not seen. I remembered the one with the Royal Navy sailor's bones they found and the knight at the castle with the surname that went extinct.
Hold on. The episode about the Stirling knight said his high % fish diet was likely due to preserved fish being a large part of military rations. Would that still have been the case during the 17th Century?
Not as much. It's was the Catholic church that had the greatest influence of fish eating. By the time we get to the 17th Century they are able to salt and smoke meat easier and a large proportion of the population were either puritan or COfE which I don't believe have any food based therories
Well, in some cases it might have been, if the troops' rations came from the way of a port. Fish keeps well when done right. And is plentiful and cheap, rather than meat. V. practical army rations, neh?
I personally am curious how the birth of the man with the arm and leg problem went. Would it make the birth painful for the mother? I wonder what the parents thought just because it was so rare.
He wouldn't have been that fused at birth... most hereditary diseases, the baby looks the same at birth, then begins to develop symptoms or issues like these... you don't REALLY think they had a fused elbow and knee _from birth_?
From what I gathered,they were both relatively large,muscular individuals,who had had their whole lives to adapt,and were probably very good at doing whatever it is that they could do to make themselves valuable to the group that they belonged to. It would not,in fact,surprise me,that one,or even both of them were considered to be one of the best at doing one or more particular things.
It seems to me what happened here is this is a group of men that either would not surrender and we’re all killed out right and then buried in a mass grave or they were a group of captured prisoners that were executed for their allegiance to a opposing crown, that would be the only wayyou would have all these people in mass graves without much trauma and everyone knows that the policy back during times like this was take no prisoners
Aren’t they supposed to wear masks when sawing bones? I thought bone dust can cause major lung problems. Perhaps she didn’t saw enough to get much dust. It was basically a demonstration.
You have to remember, he was probably in a fair amount of pain. The brace might have added to it if there was no joint space. As a person with chronic pain, you don’t just get used to it. You do what you can as long as you can. I just mean that at some point you have to depend on someone else for food, housing , etc. since there was no Social Security.
So the Scots joined the English Southerners to fight the Northerners, this does surprise me. Northerners were always on the side of Scotland, I wonder if this ruined it.
I know it is in the interest of science but there are thousands of bones and skeletons stored in boxes, crates and display cases.....worldwide.....why not make casts? Bury the original bones.....show respect. bury the original bones
What is cool is they have re-enactments and they use the same tools, ingredients, and even dress like they did. However, I would not be a very cooperative patient. I would demand that they knock me out LOL
Prince Rupert of the Rhine was awake, when they cut a flap in his scalp and cut a 1" hole in his skull, to release pressure, basic pain easement ,was aprox. 7 scratches on the opposite side of the scalp. After, Servants laid straw on the road outside, too relieved all possible extraneous noise. (Wound: Hit by a loose wooden pulley, on his Flagship)
Like, this is interesting and stuff, but some of the hamming up has really interplayed poorly with their discussion of disability. Their shock and awe, how could a disabled man be so fit and active, why on earth would he be involved within a military group, as though loads of disabled people haven't always been part of society. And they eventually find an expert in people with disabilities throughout history who points out that, actually, most people just had to get on with life as best they could, and shock and horror, yes they were often employed and valued for their skills, whatever they might be. I think as well, instead of getting an able bodied student to try some crutches out, they could have just asked a disabled person how they cope in modern day with a disability affecting one lower limb and one upper limb, and then worked back in time. My last couple of gripes are that Sue Black mentioned that the second man's fusion of his carpal bones would barely have been noticed by him in life, only affecting the dexterity of his little finger, but they still refer to 'two disabled men'. And to top it off, the line about how 'the disabled' actually were an active and accepted part of military life. Urgh. Idk if this is just super dated or if the producers are just sloppy.
Hundreds do not equate to a mere 140 ish. Sorry correct grammar and allocation please especially if you are passing yourself off as a PHD and an Investigator to miss something so trivial and obvious is alarming
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I was so disappointed that this series was so short. Not only are the cases & science extremely interesting, I love Prof. Sue Black & she put together a phenomenal team that are not only top in their fields but their personalities mesh together beautifully. There's no animosity in this team. They enjoy what they do & have the ability to be light hearted & serious simultaneously which really is key to any team.
I agree -- sadly, the way I heard Prof. Black tell it in another documentary, the rather unprofessional/unscientific demands of the producers on her time and nerves soon became incompatible with her dedication to her work. Prof. B went along with the project as long as she could (or had to), but then she bowed out -- far too soon for our taste and curiosity. Bless her! I have such tremendous respect for her.
SO it si short... dang, I really was getting into it. A bit like firefly, over before you know it.
What a brilliant programme they don't make TV like this anymore. Mores the pity.
I love the way these women combine scientific acumen with imagination and compassion, and are hence leaders in their field. A great show, thank you.
Truly wish there were more of these shows. Thank you for uploading
It is not a show that sounds like variety it's called a program.
@@lynnewilliams3859 No its called a show. Variety is a different type of show this is definitely not variety it has one subject always does.
In a civil war every man was an asset. Regardless of disability if you were willing to serve there was a place for you. Huge respect.
It was an incredible time in British history. My direct ancestors were already in New England when war broke out. One of my ancestor's cousins was motivated enough to return and fight with the Royalists. He never returned to New England.
Couldn’t tell you how many times I’ve re-watched Cold Case History. Love, love, LOVE❣️
Anyone know why it only lasted one season?
There were two series of four episodes each, in 2010 and 2011. I don't know why there aren't more of them but all the experts on the programme have very established careers in their field and it's probably not easy to get everyone together at the same time to film due to work commitments.
@@MrOnionterror The way I heard it, Prof. Black didn't appreciate the production company's lack of appreciation for the time their demands were taking away from Black's extremely important work. So she refused to do any more episodes and that was that. Black's priorities are straight and true and she was not ready to compromise them for mere entertainment purposes. At least that is how I recall her much more erudite description of the situation as she saw it.
@@BJones-yw4ddsad but understandable. The conundrum is that her stature grows with the production of these shows that are aimed at the public. That gives her more opportunities and acclaim hence more funding for HER pet projects.
@@kathrynwitte3398here’s a concept, not everyone wants that. Some people would rather live happily in the shadows that in the discomfort of the public eye. Having a scientific community looking behind her work is much more different than the general public.
@@rocacoshi here’s a concept, if you don’t want to “live life in the public eye”, don’t accept a check and film a series for television, report on VIDEO OR FILM from war zones OR accept job offers, raises, public funding or Queen’s Honors for highlighting the job you were already doing.
I am a succker when it comes to arquiology . These team of three women is absolutely amaizing. Very professional and thorough, they really give us all a sense of the peoples and their history.
I wish that there were more of these. I like the content of this show.
I love it at 23.20 when he is demonstrating a savage battle fight and you can see 2 business men with suitcases strolling past in the background lol.
Each video is a fantastic history lesson.
Sue black it's a great mind. Inspiration for every woman or person. Should be a icon like madonna or others womans wo oppened ways to all of us girls of 30/40 beeing all what we have opportunity today....it's not ideal yet but they all give us the chance
The pain these men must of gone through during the imputing of the limb. I was horrified. I'm so glad I live in this time period instead of back then.
The "rare" Syndrome these two guys had, as well as their very strong build/muscles, is the story of my family medical history. Strong, large men and women, and the disease shared by our bloodline - it can be directly traced back to the Vikings. The body type as well as the disease. My grandmother, father, sister and brother all had it.
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MEDICAL PERSONNEL/SCIENTISTS only become aware of situations like your family if the folks affected are not prevented by fear of social stigma from making it KNOWN to Specialists. The numbers only reflect KNOWN cases.
YA DON'T KNOW WHATCHA DON'T KNOW.
Just sayin....
And your point is? Why would there be a stigma attached to this disease? Just asking...
Yeah sure it is champ. Attention seek harder.
I find this extremely interesting. I’m sorry you’ve gotten negative comments about this. My family has a congenital deformity in the dental department. Either not enough teeth forms, no permanent teeth form or one heck of a gap in the front teeth. Some deformities can be traced back, others can’t because it skips. However it’s so interesting and it can be important. Missed my calling I guess
Enjoy watching all the time at home here in 🇰🇪 Kenya. Smart ladies. Will watch more with my high school daughter (in boarding sch) when schools here close this Friday for Xmas break (till Jan) she loves human anatomy.
Great idea, Mom! I’m sure your daughter enjoyed it!
Amazing faces on these 2 men. Usually they dont look right but these professionals got it just right. Handsome lads. Great series. I never get tired of these.
I have truly enjoyed this series, please bring more to light.
Live near York and visit often. Definitely my favorite city with amazing history.
I LOVE these shows!! Excellent, thank you!
I don't have cable tv so paying $10/mo for TH-cam and all the great programming (without ads) is worth it!
I absolutely love this series!
I want more of these!
Love this show.
Love learning. These programs are so interesting and a history lesson
I might ask that when I die my body gets buried in the middle of a field so a few centuries later I can be dug up and scientists can study me
Check out Caitlin Doughty's "Ask A Mortician" channel on U Tube 4 alternative burial options other than burial vault or cremation. :)
You can. I'm donating my body to the Body Farm at University of Tennessee.
LOL with some old buttons or something to confuse them
Wear something really crazy that won’t waste or rot away, give them a puzzle to do
"Relatively healthy, if you can be when you're dead" is a phrase I didn’t think I'd find as amusing as i did 😊
Im soo hooked! Kinda wish i could change my major..thank you
Fascinating, thanks for posting these. Obviously not within the scope or budget of the production, but wouldn't it have been interesting to have someone explore records in Hull for evidence of that congenital condition to see if there are living descendants of these two men? Also wondering if the DNA results found in archaeology are as a matter of course entered into the DNA databases that are becoming popular today... imagine someone getting a result saying you are connected to someone dug up at some battlefield or castle.
I love the idea of adding the archaeological dna to the databases we have now for genealogy!
@@Dragon.Thistle.112 Maybe we should have our DNA tested? (See my comment above). We are not in Britain, though...
@@elizemarais9275 You should!
thank you great docs
I have bony ankylosis in two of my fingers! So cool to see a more severe version
Fascinating stuff! 😮
Very interesting thank you.
This is truly awesome 💐
Fascinating !!!
11 weeks drinking only a beer?! They must have been totally dehydrated. ..very interesting episode for sure :) I always wanted to be an archaeologist but my father told me I will be very poor and if I want to live well as an archaeologist, I would have to be a famous one. :p So I become a geologist instead, working in oil ind. Now I'm in Green one! ;) :) ..and psychology is my passion. But archeology was my dream job. So.., I love it! Give us more! ;)
in the middleages it was quiet common to drink beer not water, the beer had alcohol but it was low. so even young kids had beer not water bc the water would cause you to be sick.
Your father wasn’t wrong. Some things are best left as hobbies unless you have family money to rely on.
Beer wasn't like what it is today. In the middle ages, beer was alcoholic, but even the strongest wasn't nearly as strong as a modern beer. Back then, water was terribly polluted and would make anyone who drank it very sick. Beer, however, wouldn't make you sick - so they drank a lot of it!
I hate the statement at 1:55...this wasn't the birth of democracy. Democracy was started by the ancient Greeks.
Maybe they meant birth of democracy in Britain?
These adverts are so annoying!! How many adverts are needed?!
Great episode
And once again, more scientific and historical demonstration for the Social Model of Disability! Heck yes!
I so wish you had more seasons, but I think I know why you don't.
I know I'm only getting to see these episodes on TH-cam, but I think I know why you aren't producing any more seasons for TV. Three of the tests that are performed on the bones and teeth are very expensive, plus the travel, paying the specialists for their time, and so on would become cost prohibitive. And maybe the date and time slot of the show had too much competition for viewers. Too bad. :o(
I really like History Cold Case and have watched all episodes several times. I've been watching all of them again today.
Actually, if I'm remembering correctly, they wanted to do a second season, but Professor Black refused to do another due to how the studio handled filming the first. There's a short interview done by a university student with her where she briefly talks about why she wouldn't do this again. Pretty sure it's still available on TH-cam.
I agree. This is one show that should go on. Excellent.
You do realize the person who posted this who you are responding to, are NOT the people that make this show. Rather they just recorded it and are trying to make money off the adrevenue and most of these accounts will be closed before getting too many views or subscribers.
@@kipral There were two seasons of History Cold Case but Dr. Augustine was not in the second season.
@@kipral As I remember, in part she bridled at the overproduced, dramatized nature of popular-interest scientific documentaries. Everything has to be rigorously simplified (not "dumbed down" of course; that would be impolite!).
With the age difference and different Mothers, they were more likely Father & Son.
I thought this as well. The father might have helped to get his disabled son a job in the army and kept an eye on him / supported him.
My thoughts too
It is a fascinating programme, and I really enjoyed the series when it was first televised, but regarding this episode, why could they not be properly buried, like soldiers who were found after the great war, given a decent burial, and honoured as soldiers, who, irrespective of how they died, were willing to die for our freedom.
My guess, if they died of disease, they would want to bury them as quickly as possible for fear of the corpses causing further infection, a lesson hard learned from 100s of years of epidemics including several plague epidemics. And if they were dying in such numbers and in the middle of a military operation to boot, there simply would not have been time to dig individual graves for every victim.
The civil war in the 17th century was not the first English civil war. There was the civil war in the 12th century waged between Stephen of Blois and his cousin, the Empress Matilda, for the crown.
Also wars of the roses
Both of those conflicts are known by more specific names though. Matilda vs Stephen is known as The Anarchy, and the Wars of the Roses is known as, well, the Wars of the Roses. The 17th century civil war isn’t known by another name, it’s just The Civil War.
Great show. But in their study on the Stirling Castle man they said that a high intake of marine life would have indicated a member of an army and not necessarily someone from a coastal location.
It isn't a show its a program
And was that in a later episode? They probably didn't have the information as they were making this one. I do think though while it's interesting what they do, sometimes they seem to come to their conclusions a bit too quickly.
That's what I thought too! They said that fish was often used to feed the army. In that case, if they had taken samples from some of the other remains, they would have come to the same conclusion... but that would have cost more money.
You have to look at how the military works in these two time periods. The Sterling man was thought to be a knight, if that is true, fighting and campaigning was his job to put it simply. He would have starting at a young age training and going on campaigns to become a knight as an adult, that means you eat some pretty crappy and bland food over and over again, trust me I was in the Marine Corps haha. By the time of two soldiers in this episode things were a little different, much of the armies were volunteers, which means that they didn't grow up in the military but came from regular jobs and went home after their enlistment was over. They fought for a period of time, sometimes as short as a couple of months then left the army.
@@lynnewilliams3859 no it is a GREAT show!
I don't think the disabled man's father necessarily had a bike. He may have lost his wife during childbirth and remarried, at which point the second disabled man was conceived and later born.
I can't help wondering about the woman who gave birth to the man with fused knee and elbow...
Babies are born with loose joints and soft bones and limbs. This would've become fused later on as the child grew older and the bones became set for adulthood.
They were not born with it🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️ you actually are commenting without watching full video 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤷♀️ why be an idiot
The man with the fused arm and leg, could very well have been an archer. My question is did they have archers during the civil war in the late 1600’s? They weren’t mentioned when Zanthi was at her weapons demonstration.
There are records of Bows, Arrows, released from the Tower. (600?) And there was a drill of "The Double-Armed Man" pertaining to the Archery arms issued to a 'Gentle man of the Pike'
Pike grounded Vertical, stabilizing the bow arm. (Second Rank anti-Foot offensive weapon ?
(unlikely, against Horse )) "I think a bright Idea, at the time, but once away from London siege..... "
In the early 17th century there are laws that forbid the eating of meat on Wednesdays, Fridays and Saturdays. Period cookbooks are full of fish-day receipts. I'm surprised this isn't discussed in the isotope data. Is it just salt-water fish? Would it matter if it was salted?
It's been asertained on a previous upload that sea food such as dried cod smoked cod and salted other sea foods we're at least 30% of the army's diet
Great series. However I feel they rushed this case. Alot of possibilities were left out. I think if they can relook at it again with new technology, it would be great.
Why didn’t she ask him, “What prompted you to dig here?”
There's thousands and thousands of these graves in the UK so the builders was probably going to build houses there and found the graves.Then builders have to cease immediately and Archaeologist come in and do there bit..
Do you think Typhus Fever is why we change into pjs at night and wash our clothes so often? I find that an interesting idea!
His bones were in a global fruit box? How things change.
I was also wondering
I found it great they were reusing !
Does that condition mean that the man was birthed as an infant with a bent leg? Ouch!
Right? And arm. So if they are half brothers that might help explain why they haven't got the same mother. A very dangerous birth.
it is a progressive disease, the joints would have fused over time
Can you imagine trying to climb into and out of a bath tub??? (Hypothetically from a modern perspective)
shows spoilt by the ridiculous 'experts' pretending they have no idea about things. Like they are teaching 3 yr olds and need to build the tension. Just tell the facts and give a time line and that would be more interesting.
This show looks familiar....isn't this THE DECRYPTERS?!!!.
I remembered liking this show a lot and then the a**holes at Nat Geo took it off after only about 6 episodes.
There are many here I have not seen. I remembered the one with the Royal Navy sailor's bones they found and the knight at the castle with the surname that went extinct.
God grief! Someone from Knealed Snot who can talk sensibly of military behaviour of the time!
Hold on. The episode about the Stirling knight said his high % fish diet was likely due to preserved fish being a large part of military rations. Would that still have been the case during the 17th Century?
Not as much. It's was the Catholic church that had the greatest influence of fish eating. By the time we get to the 17th Century they are able to salt and smoke meat easier and a large proportion of the population were either puritan or COfE which I don't believe have any food based therories
Well, in some cases it might have been, if the troops' rations came from the way of a port. Fish keeps well when done right. And is plentiful and cheap, rather than meat. V. practical army rations, neh?
I personally am curious how the birth of the man with the arm and leg problem went. Would it make the birth painful for the mother? I wonder what the parents thought just because it was so rare.
Well, baby bone is a bit flexible, as anyone who’s seen a cone headed newborn can attest. Still, it can’t have been an easy birth for dear old mum.
Exactly! Babies' bones are primarily cartilage at birth. Very bendy.
He wouldn't have been that fused at birth... most hereditary diseases, the baby looks the same at birth, then begins to develop symptoms or issues like these... you don't REALLY think they had a fused elbow and knee _from birth_?
The disabled lads , would they have been cooks ?
Good question.
From what I gathered,they were both relatively large,muscular individuals,who had had their whole lives to adapt,and were probably very good at doing whatever it is that they could do to make themselves valuable to the group that they belonged to.
It would not,in fact,surprise me,that one,or even both of them were considered to be one of the best at doing one or more particular things.
@@karlnystedt3111 the fused arm was fused into position for using a pike.
Lots of jobs as a sutler following the army, could be a vital person like a "Matck Maker*
mainly just waiting for the 'drying' (Matchlocks ! )
It seems to me what happened here is this is a group of men that either would not surrender and we’re all killed out right and then buried in a mass grave or they were a group of captured prisoners that were executed for their allegiance to a opposing crown, that would be the only wayyou would have all these people in mass graves without much trauma and everyone knows that the policy back during times like this was take no prisoners
Aren’t they supposed to wear masks when sawing bones? I thought bone dust can cause major lung problems. Perhaps she didn’t saw enough to get much dust. It was basically a demonstration.
You have to remember, he was probably in a fair amount of pain. The brace might have added to it if there was no joint space. As a person with chronic pain, you don’t just get used to it. You do what you can as long as you can. I just mean that at some point you have to depend on someone else for food, housing , etc. since there was no Social Security.
So the Scots joined the English Southerners to fight the Northerners, this does surprise me. Northerners were always on the side of Scotland, I wonder if this ruined it.
They are buried in platoons, looked pretty obvious. maybe the guy with the fused arm was a standard bearer.
Archer
I know it is in the interest of science but there are thousands of bones and skeletons stored in boxes, crates and display cases.....worldwide.....why not make casts? Bury the original bones.....show respect.
bury the original bones
What a pity, Such a great show, not to forget the trouble with the upload, but not much left of it because of all those annoying ads.
So the guy with the bad fusions , his mother must have died at his birth! How did he even get out....?
What is cool is they have re-enactments and they use the same tools, ingredients, and even dress like they did. However, I would not be a very cooperative patient. I would demand that they knock me out LOL
Prince Rupert of the Rhine was awake, when they cut a flap in his scalp and cut a 1" hole in his skull, to release pressure, basic pain easement ,was aprox. 7 scratches on the opposite side of the scalp. After, Servants laid straw on the road outside, too relieved all possible extraneous noise. (Wound: Hit by a loose wooden pulley, on his Flagship)
The Red Headed Lady is a Lady Wrestler in the Off season...
Just started to watch this episode and my first guess is I think that these are circus freaks but also something tells me no its not
Why do they not think they're father and son ???!!
Because..
smoked seafood was possibly army whatever you call it. food kit
father and son?
I can’t watch this. She keeps says “yeah yeah yeah”… Yeah, she ruined the video for me.
Like, this is interesting and stuff, but some of the hamming up has really interplayed poorly with their discussion of disability. Their shock and awe, how could a disabled man be so fit and active, why on earth would he be involved within a military group, as though loads of disabled people haven't always been part of society. And they eventually find an expert in people with disabilities throughout history who points out that, actually, most people just had to get on with life as best they could, and shock and horror, yes they were often employed and valued for their skills, whatever they might be. I think as well, instead of getting an able bodied student to try some crutches out, they could have just asked a disabled person how they cope in modern day with a disability affecting one lower limb and one upper limb, and then worked back in time.
My last couple of gripes are that Sue Black mentioned that the second man's fusion of his carpal bones would barely have been noticed by him in life, only affecting the dexterity of his little finger, but they still refer to 'two disabled men'. And to top it off, the line about how 'the disabled' actually were an active and accepted part of military life. Urgh. Idk if this is just super dated or if the producers are just sloppy.
Sea men pfffft hahaha
The Union flag shown at 42:30 is tattered and torn. Why has it not been replaced?
You replace it then if your so worried about it..
Hundreds do not equate to a mere 140 ish. Sorry correct grammar and allocation please especially if you are passing yourself off as a PHD and an Investigator to miss something so trivial and obvious is alarming