Most of this video is a grossly hyperbolic modern take (the kind of material that feeds revisionist history), but the biggest head-scratcher is how anyone can discuss Carmageddon 64 and fail to mention the zombies being replaced by generic little dinosaurs in the international versions. That is the first thing to discuss when exploring the game's stunning history with bad censorship.
The south park game was terrible. Not fun. Difficult. Poor gameplay. Didnt involve the south park universe enough. It was based on like part of a single episode. Badd graphics too.
Yeah they made that game only knowing I think a little bit of season 1, so they had very few things to go off of. It's kinda like that one older Simpsons game on the NES.
Viewing turok in turok 64 as a character intended to represent the average native american would be like playing duke nukem 64 and assuming duke was intended to represent the average white american male Kinda silly. Also I believe most of these criticisms were retroactively tied to these games
You forgot about Ocarina of Time, considering its Islamic imagery. Eventually, the 3DS version gets rid of all of the Islamic imagery, also affecting Dampe's Cavern. Also, you forgot to mention these features: Carmageddon 64 has a widescreen mode that can be toggled when the game is paused, but it is presented letterboxed, and you will have to use the Zoom format on your widescreen TV. For improved visual clarity, I recommend S-Video cables. South Park, Forsaken, and Vigilante 8 all have 4-player split screen modes not on their PlayStation counterparts. Same can be said for Hydro Thunder, 007: The World Is Not Enough, and Gauntlet Legends (despite having same-screen multiplayer) to name a few.
The widescreen mode in Carmageddon 64? That's not worth yakking about. Letterboxed widescreen was normal back then. What he should have mentioned is the zombies being replaced with generic little dinosaurs in the PAL version of the game (in Europe and Australia), and yet it still received an adult rating despite the total lack of legitimate violence or gore.
I loved playing Conker's bad fur day a lot on my best friend's N64, given that i didn't played it on release and i got to play it back in high school around 2008 or so and we had a blast with it. We use to recite most of the dialogue word for word just for fun every now and then, that game was just something else even if it was rated M for Mature.
They absolutely said that in front of US congress, the level of censorship in Nintendo of America was insane, it's always surprising as a European finding out how insane United States are with their puritanism.
@@KasumiRINA Europe and Australia have suffered far, far worse censorship in video games than America throughout the years. One of the craziest examples not mentioned in this video is the PAL version of Carmageddon 64, where the zombies were replaced with generic dinosaurs. The game still received a mature adult rating, despite having no legitimate violence or gore whatsoever.
The South Park game running on the engine of Turok 2 is an example of why I believe X6 is far, far worse than X7, because X7 was built from scratch, X6 was built on top of X4 just like X5.
A lot of evidence there for why we need to stop listening to "critics". Also, I'm convinced half of these mentioned controversies and discussions around whatever hot topics are just made up and/or have been rewritten and misrepresented by people editing this information online in modern times to suit their own ideologies and agendas. I was there in the '90s playing these games, and I don't recall half the level of controversy for most of them you mention here, and certainly not talk of stuff like "cultural appropriation" and so on. Who knows, but I don't trust half of the "facts" I read online these days, especially anything from "critics" and such. Either way, it's all overly sensitive trumped-up nonsense.
With all respect, this dude did a nice search of videogames for the N64 and videofootage of them (which is hard to come by), but every comment in every game is filled with today´s agenda. I mean, it´s like saying that there was controversy with The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time, with Ganondorf being black, like saying is a racist game or some bs like that. I don´t recall controversies of this kind, Turok 3 was a masterpiece for the time, Jet Force Gemini had a lot of violence and dismemberment of the ants, nobody said anything about them, there was controversy that the blues brothers game was only for rental in blockbuster, like a Clayfighters game and a Hercules one (if I remember correctly). It is better to look yesterday´s game with yesterday´s eyes. Let us be grateful that we were able to enjoy them at the time :-)
If you think people TODAY are "senstitive", in 90s they said videogames make kids shoot up schools, they had bloody Doom and Night Trap developers testify in front of boomers in congress. And don't get me started on conservatives trying to cancel Mass Effect for a sideboob. There's a lot of manufactured non-scandals now though, but mostly by online wingnut grifters, not GOVERNMENT.
Well of course you don't remember the controversy. You were 12. That aside, just like today specific controversies were only in the news for a day or two before moving to the next thing. There WAS a very loud and angry group of conservatives trying to say games caused violence, kids will go crazy, lose their attention spans. And there was a much smaller group who cared about social issues like representation of minorities and women. It was on the news many times, it was talked about by politicians in DC. Congressional representatives held inquires where they questions people involved. You probably don't remember the controversy around a lot of things, because why would you?
@@eddybrocato2722what?He is literally talking about criticisms given by people of "yesterday" and a bunch of what he says is "yeah this game sucked on n64, but not on PC and people hated that." Like look at the section on forsaken 64. And The next section was Turok, "the game was really violent and some people didn't like that." And then mentioned the native American portrayal, which is not new. You have to be 12 to think people weren't talking about that since before you were born. Misrepresentation of other cultures has been a discussion forever, Hollywood been doing it since black and white movies. It's like you guys really think nobody out there was offended by stuff just because a lot of folks were racist. A whole lot of other people were aware of society and it's issues. If we're all supposed to work together in a society then we are only as good as how we treat our weakest and those with the least societal power. It's also hilarious you think getting n64 footage is hard. You must not be very into videogames.
I believe that this “controversial” list is of North-American opinion. Here at the Netherlands and United Kingdom critics and players are less mild. We expected that South Park gonna be a little immature. Same as for Carmageddon, the discussion already melted down because of the PC-version being a lot earlier. Critics loved Shadowman over here so the gory content was pushed aside. Turok in some countries the enemies were replaced by lesser violent ones. Holy Magic Century was spot on with your list so nice on! And Conker also, but I have to say we did’t talk about a lot because it was at the end of N64-lifecycle. The rest of the list is rubbish but I found this video very interesting to watch. Still subscribed on this channel and look forward for the next videos. 🇳🇱
I feel like you’re really padding each segment out by trying to list reasons the games sparked debate. Some of these are just bad. Blues Brothers 2000 did not spark “discussions on integrity” of licensed games. That just sounds ridiculous.
Nintendo had the "family friendly" image at the time, and parents naively assumed that every game on a Nintendo console must be kid friendly despite the ESRB ratings being out by then.
Nintendo systems have had violent content dating back to the NES, anyone worried about a game like Forsaken appearing on the 64 really needs to get a clue.
I remember renting Carmageddon 64. I was pissed about it having zombies instead of people. I think I rented South Park that same day too. Was not a good day.
Thought you were going to mention the grave advertisement stunt with Shadowman, I think the game was great and definitely was one of the better Acclaim titles.
Conker's bad fur day is still pretty controversial. I hear many people say it sucks. And many other people who love it. I personally think it's a 6/10 game though
It's so funny looking back at some of these games now, they are so tame to what you see today. Quest 64 is a weird one. There's a Japanese version that was released after the North American one, which fixes some issues (including adding a better ending). It's still not as good as normal rpgs of the time, but it's not super bad.
I’m all for freedom is speech and art. Make whatever games you want as long as it isn’t racist or prejudice. Just make sure the right audience sees it. Like, I don’t see any controversy over the fact that Nintendo has “anime hentia harem.” Which if you wanna make it, whatever. My problem is that, if I didn’t have parental locks on to stop games being bought, my 6 year old could see that and get it. That doesn’t sound very “family friendly to me”
the biggest controversy for me was not releasing Earthbound 64! I held on to that damn system forever while being told it was on it's way! I am still made at Nintendo! haha
Im sorry you chose to describe technical issues and disappointed fans as controversy. You will never get them to watch and listen to the video. Its painfully obvious a lot of people did not watch the video and just want to go "nope, people weren't sensitive little babies back then! We had racism, sexism, and bad games and we liked it!"
Take a shot every time the claim that Nintendo consoles are family-friendly is mentioned.
Sintendo is CERTAINLY not family friendly.:/
Most of this video is a grossly hyperbolic modern take (the kind of material that feeds revisionist history), but the biggest head-scratcher is how anyone can discuss Carmageddon 64 and fail to mention the zombies being replaced by generic little dinosaurs in the international versions. That is the first thing to discuss when exploring the game's stunning history with bad censorship.
I'm gonna see that Shadow Man dancer in my nightmares, I just know it. RIP my sleep, and also my apples.
Haha, you win best comment!
The south park game was terrible. Not fun. Difficult. Poor gameplay.
Didnt involve the south park universe enough. It was based on like part of a single episode.
Badd graphics too.
Yeah they made that game only knowing I think a little bit of season 1, so they had very few things to go off of. It's kinda like that one older Simpsons game on the NES.
I got South Park for my 11th birthday. My siblings, all our friends and I all loved that game!
Conker's Bad Fur Day was not only controversial, but had good gameplay & controls. Perfect game for partying college kids.
I feel like a lot of these “controversies” would have been avoided if parents read the rating on the box for the game
Viewing turok in turok 64 as a character intended to represent the average native american would be like playing duke nukem 64 and assuming duke was intended to represent the average white american male
Kinda silly. Also I believe most of these criticisms were retroactively tied to these games
You forgot about Ocarina of Time, considering its Islamic imagery. Eventually, the 3DS version gets rid of all of the Islamic imagery, also affecting Dampe's Cavern.
Also, you forgot to mention these features: Carmageddon 64 has a widescreen mode that can be toggled when the game is paused, but it is presented letterboxed, and you will have to use the Zoom format on your widescreen TV. For improved visual clarity, I recommend S-Video cables. South Park, Forsaken, and Vigilante 8 all have 4-player split screen modes not on their PlayStation counterparts. Same can be said for Hydro Thunder, 007: The World Is Not Enough, and Gauntlet Legends (despite having same-screen multiplayer) to name a few.
The widescreen mode in Carmageddon 64? That's not worth yakking about. Letterboxed widescreen was normal back then.
What he should have mentioned is the zombies being replaced with generic little dinosaurs in the PAL version of the game (in Europe and Australia), and yet it still received an adult rating despite the total lack of legitimate violence or gore.
I still have the trauma of Quest 64. I won the game, but it was me being stubborn.
QUEST 64 IS HORRENDOUS UNACCEPTABLE TRASH!
I loved playing Conker's bad fur day a lot on my best friend's N64, given that i didn't played it on release and i got to play it back in high school around 2008 or so and we had a blast with it. We use to recite most of the dialogue word for word just for fun every now and then, that game was just something else even if it was rated M for Mature.
Conkers bad fur day was and still is my favorite game of all time
Yeah, that game obliterates.
Here we go. Games that are controversial even if they're not
I think I mostly watch these videos to see how many times they'll mention that Nintendo is "marketed toward families" or meant to be "family-friendly"
They absolutely said that in front of US congress, the level of censorship in Nintendo of America was insane, it's always surprising as a European finding out how insane United States are with their puritanism.
@@KasumiRINA Europe and Australia have suffered far, far worse censorship in video games than America throughout the years. One of the craziest examples not mentioned in this video is the PAL version of Carmageddon 64, where the zombies were replaced with generic dinosaurs. The game still received a mature adult rating, despite having no legitimate violence or gore whatsoever.
The South Park game running on the engine of Turok 2 is an example of why I believe X6 is far, far worse than X7, because X7 was built from scratch, X6 was built on top of X4 just like X5.
A lot of evidence there for why we need to stop listening to "critics".
Also, I'm convinced half of these mentioned controversies and discussions around whatever hot topics are just made up and/or have been rewritten and misrepresented by people editing this information online in modern times to suit their own ideologies and agendas. I was there in the '90s playing these games, and I don't recall half the level of controversy for most of them you mention here, and certainly not talk of stuff like "cultural appropriation" and so on. Who knows, but I don't trust half of the "facts" I read online these days, especially anything from "critics" and such.
Either way, it's all overly sensitive trumped-up nonsense.
Same, I was there, too. No one talked about any of this stuff.
With all respect, this dude did a nice search of videogames for the N64 and videofootage of them (which is hard to come by), but every comment in every game is filled with today´s agenda. I mean, it´s like saying that there was controversy with The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time, with Ganondorf being black, like saying is a racist game or some bs like that.
I don´t recall controversies of this kind, Turok 3 was a masterpiece for the time, Jet Force Gemini had a lot of violence and dismemberment of the ants, nobody said anything about them, there was controversy that the blues brothers game was only for rental in blockbuster, like a Clayfighters game and a Hercules one (if I remember correctly).
It is better to look yesterday´s game with yesterday´s eyes. Let us be grateful that we were able to enjoy them at the time :-)
If you think people TODAY are "senstitive", in 90s they said videogames make kids shoot up schools, they had bloody Doom and Night Trap developers testify in front of boomers in congress. And don't get me started on conservatives trying to cancel Mass Effect for a sideboob. There's a lot of manufactured non-scandals now though, but mostly by online wingnut grifters, not GOVERNMENT.
Well of course you don't remember the controversy. You were 12. That aside, just like today specific controversies were only in the news for a day or two before moving to the next thing. There WAS a very loud and angry group of conservatives trying to say games caused violence, kids will go crazy, lose their attention spans. And there was a much smaller group who cared about social issues like representation of minorities and women.
It was on the news many times, it was talked about by politicians in DC. Congressional representatives held inquires where they questions people involved.
You probably don't remember the controversy around a lot of things, because why would you?
@@eddybrocato2722what?He is literally talking about criticisms given by people of "yesterday" and a bunch of what he says is "yeah this game sucked on n64, but not on PC and people hated that." Like look at the section on forsaken 64. And The next section was Turok, "the game was really violent and some people didn't like that." And then mentioned the native American portrayal, which is not new. You have to be 12 to think people weren't talking about that since before you were born. Misrepresentation of other cultures has been a discussion forever, Hollywood been doing it since black and white movies. It's like you guys really think nobody out there was offended by stuff just because a lot of folks were racist. A whole lot of other people were aware of society and it's issues. If we're all supposed to work together in a society then we are only as good as how we treat our weakest and those with the least societal power.
It's also hilarious you think getting n64 footage is hard. You must not be very into videogames.
I kinda liked War Gods for what it was: a beta test for Mortal Kombat 4 and a rough draft of their 3D fighting game engine.
Quest 64 would be better if they reduced the encounter rate by 10x and increased the xp by 10x.
That encounter rate was infuriating.
Southparks final autobot boss was the cheapest boss of all time
I believe that this “controversial” list is of North-American opinion.
Here at the Netherlands and United Kingdom critics and players are less mild.
We expected that South Park gonna be a little immature.
Same as for Carmageddon, the discussion already melted down because of the PC-version being a lot earlier.
Critics loved Shadowman over here so the gory content was pushed aside.
Turok in some countries the enemies were replaced by lesser violent ones.
Holy Magic Century was spot on with your list so nice on!
And Conker also, but I have to say we did’t talk about a lot because it was at the end of N64-lifecycle.
The rest of the list is rubbish but I found this video very interesting to watch.
Still subscribed on this channel and look forward for the next videos. 🇳🇱
came for Conker
stayed for
Conker
I feel like you’re really padding each segment out by trying to list reasons the games sparked debate. Some of these are just bad. Blues Brothers 2000 did not spark “discussions on integrity” of licensed games. That just sounds ridiculous.
"... especially on the N64."
It's so weird that no one had a problem with these games on other systems.
Nintendo had the "family friendly" image at the time, and parents naively assumed that every game on a Nintendo console must be kid friendly despite the ESRB ratings being out by then.
Nintendo systems have had violent content dating back to the NES, anyone worried about a game like Forsaken appearing on the 64 really needs to get a clue.
I remember renting Carmageddon 64. I was pissed about it having zombies instead of people. I think I rented South Park that same day too. Was not a good day.
At least you got zombies in your Carmageddon 64! Spare a thought for us poor Aussies and Europeans who got generic little dinosaurs instead.
Thought you were going to mention the grave advertisement stunt with Shadowman, I think the game was great and definitely was one of the better Acclaim titles.
You are talking about the Shadowman sequel
V8 Vigilante Is the way I read the Cartridge...The multi-player was awesome!
Conker's bad fur day is still pretty controversial. I hear many people say it sucks. And many other people who love it. I personally think it's a 6/10 game though
It's so funny looking back at some of these games now, they are so tame to what you see today.
Quest 64 is a weird one. There's a Japanese version that was released after the North American one, which fixes some issues (including adding a better ending). It's still not as good as normal rpgs of the time, but it's not super bad.
I’m all for freedom is speech and art. Make whatever games you want as long as it isn’t racist or prejudice. Just make sure the right audience sees it. Like, I don’t see any controversy over the fact that Nintendo has “anime hentia harem.” Which if you wanna make it, whatever. My problem is that, if I didn’t have parental locks on to stop games being bought, my 6 year old could see that and get it. That doesn’t sound very “family friendly to me”
the biggest controversy for me was not releasing Earthbound 64! I held on to that damn system forever while being told it was on it's way! I am still made at Nintendo! haha
Did you ever get around to playing Mother 3?
WTF was that video clip before The Shadowman segment
SNEStaglia time
Im sorry you chose to describe technical issues and disappointed fans as controversy. You will never get them to watch and listen to the video.
Its painfully obvious a lot of people did not watch the video and just want to go "nope, people weren't sensitive little babies back then! We had racism, sexism, and bad games and we liked it!"
Blues Brothers game how died and said they wanted that.
2nd