He couldn’t lift properly because one of his arms was badly broken as a child and his family couldn’t afford to go see a doctor, so it healed incorrectly, thus he couldn’t straighten his arm.
I do think that is is sad that they have a statue of a fictional character such as Rocky but a real life hero such as Joe Frazier has nothing. Frazier was a real life Rocky as far as I am concern. As many times as I had been in North Philly, I can't believe I never once tried to stop by his gym just to see if I could meet the man. They say he use to be in there all the time after his boxing days. Sorry I never gave myself a chance to meet the man, they say he was a really good down to earth good guy.
@@ItsJOHNMayne he does now. Rocky has had a statue there since the 80s even though it was Frazier who ran up and down the stairs and worked in the slaughterhouse since he was a teenager. They say that's where his power came from
That is your fault. Ive gonne all they way from porto alegre, Brasil to run the rocky steps. After that, i looked after Joe Frazier and talk to him for 30 seconds, Just outside the gym, 2008. What a day that was. Rocky is the reason Philly is known outside USA. His Statue is a símbol of freedom and Joy to people everywhere. I also went to see the spectrum, A landmark, and the beautyfull Dr j statue
Would have loved to have met him. What an icon. Didn't claim to have any athletic gifts to speak of (although this is doubtful/him just being modest) but you could not bully the man, frightened Foreman with his determination and Ali was *terrified* of him. At least according to Mark Kram.
In his book, Joe Frazier admitted never training with weights during his boxing career so I don't think this result is too surprising. But as far as functional strength went - the man was a bull. He had Chuvalo reeling away from him and regularly used to bully Norton in sparring - both men who would easily boss Frazier in a weightlifting contest. I bet Bruno could press more than Tyson too... Doesn't mean shit inside the ring.
@Aposteln Trynt And Joe was usually in top shape. He came forward, like a train, putting immense pressure on his opponents, to say nothing of a sledgehammer left hook, and, as he matured and evolved an above average right hand.
@d Frazier never lifted weights, and despite how strong anyone is, you need to get used to the movement. Frazier also wasn’t able to straighten out one of his arms because he broke it as a child and it healed incorrectly.
Joe didn't lift but still showed strength despite form. Now measure the force of all these guys left hooks and there will be no comparison to the crushing power of Smokin Joe.
calibreeze007 ??? So? The WHOLE POINT of this programme was that it tested athletes in OTHER areas. You might as well say that Jean-Claude Killy would beat the others at skiing...
Frazier's left arm was bent after he broke it on a plantation as a little kid. He could never straighten his left arm again as it healed without a cast. If he can't straighten his left arm, then how the hell is he supposed to weight lift?
Joe Frazier's left arm(the one he threw his trademark hook with) was injured and left crooked when he was a kid..So,when lifting, he wasn't able to straighten his left and lock out the weight..
Boxers just hit the heavy bag and did pushups ad chinups etc. to build their strength back then for strength endurance. Frazier had power, but far more functional for his sport, those guys really fought for 15 rounds throwing punches all the time unlike todays heavyweights who are blowing after 2-3 rounds.
I had pretty similar strength In my early 20's as you did..I was able to military press 185 for 10 reps.. Even now at 51 I could military press 170 for 4 reps..
Joe frazier have arms problem and elbow problem, and he cannot all open his left hant, beacouse he broked it when he was kid. so sthength not lifting iron
I remember Smokin Joe, back in the 1960,s first in the Olympics coming up as a Amateur HW. Boxer, he Won The Gold Metal, I think it was 1964, and then CLIMBING the RANKS to The Heavyweight Championship of the WORLD. NOW, That being said, If Ole Joe took that same FEROCITY he had in the Boxing Jim back then, and applied it to Weightlifting, I think he would have easily lifted more weight And Won in this Contest. Anyway, That's My Opinion on The Great Joe Frazier.
Oh Peter Revson! He would be killed in less than a year qualifying for a car race. All the AFX toy racing sets had his picture on it and he was doing TV commercials for the product. I was crushed by his sudden death.
@jooljetkmae as far as i know that was because he needed to gain weight and go up into a higher weight division, your right though, holyfield is one of the only big name boxer to do serious weight lifting
bob seagren was a very great atlete, he didn't won the gold medal at munchen, because of a uncorrect decisions of the judges, but in the superstars he proved how great and coplete he was, he was great in every sport, and very professional, in comparison to other atlete who didn't train so seriously as him
Yes, I would have to agree with some of the comments on here and that is 170lbs. isn't light but I use it on a regular basis in my warmups for an exercise called the Push Press which is like the top half of a Clean 'n Jerk Lift. It takes a lot of dedication and consistency as I've worked up to 210lbs. at 56 years of age. ....but getting back to the '73 Superstars Competition - Weightlifting wasn't common back in those days in many of the sports at that time. Only in Football, Bodybuilding, Pro-Wrestling, etc. was it a normal form of exercise due to the nature of the aforementioned sports. That 170lbs. must have felt very heavy to those athletes in the '73 Superstars Competition (especially for the athletes in skilled sports).
Frazier was a great boxer, no doubt but this was not boxing so everyone should give credit due to the man whom won. Bob Seagren had great form. This also was not pole vaulting. So the comments amaze me. Each one of these guys were professionals in other areas and top notch. Each would fail miserably in the others field of expertise.
Of course. And Seagren even said, that he wouldn't want to get in the ring, with Frazier. Just as the commentator retorted about Joe not wishing to pole vault against Bob. This ought to be fairly obvious.
I dont know about Joe'ssupposed physical limitations, but he needed some coaching here. Abysmal technique...he needed to set his feet better and use his legs more.
@@bangbang7903 Lmao pussy weight lifting Vs. Boxing 🤣 There's no comparison. Weight liftings for fuck boys who would probably get slapped about by a featherweight 😂😂😂
Joe is totally clueless about how to lift the weight-but he was a top flight athlete so a few weeks practise and he'd have been lifting plenty with good technique
Smokin Joe injured his arm when he was little and it never properly healed so never could straighten out all the way which also helped to make for his devastating left hook his arm was shaped in an L
And what about his legs ? I think he was very slow runner at the 100 yard dash. Plus he was half-blind, with a weak chin but he beat the unbeaten Ali. Ali was overrated. Not to mention Frazier was a very weak swimmer.
Joe badly damaged left arm as a youngster running from a hog. Due to poverty, he never received treatment and the arm had to heal on its own. He was never fully able to straighten again. Not suited for weight lifting but made one mean left hook for boxing!
George Foreman, Mike Tyson, and Evander Holyfield wouldn't have problems lifting heavyweight. Those guys would excel at any strength sports that they choose.
-Holyfield had problems.He never was a remarkable lifter.Check out his superstars performances. -Tyson in his prime trained only his neck muscle with weight. -Foreman ? Very questionable.
Unfair, depends on how you train with weights. Look at Holyfield before and Anthony Joshua now. A bunch of boxers and MMA guys are training with weights. As far as Tyson, weighted shrugs were a main part of his training. I'm pretty sure he leg pressed every now and then. Ross Enamait, who is a total badass, encourages weights. He just reminds his followers that weightlifting is one form of resistance, but there are plenty more to choose from.
Joe didnt have a clue about proper form of that exercise he was trying to lift it straight ahead from the holding bars and from triceps xD tho he looked like he didnt care at all
I remember an interview with buster Douglas's manager(can't remember his name,john Johnson?) years back.he said buster Douglas was curling 90 pounds on each arm.before his big upset of Mike tyson
Bodybuilding makes you slow n stiff yes a appresive body is good for boxing look at AJ big a muscular but he trains he's muscles in a difrent way they are completly difrent on the inside the way they function
When I watch these old vids of these events, it never ceases to amaze me how much better trained today's current athletes are compared to these great ones from the past....most heavyweight fighters these days could easily overhead press 170 lbs......as well as most pole vaulters.....I do think skiers could do it, but not sure about race car drivers....as I consider driving a car more of a skill as opposed to being an athlete.....
There's lesson here in setting reasonable goals : When a heavyweight boxer can't lift 170, or lock-out with 160, it's time to stop comparing yourself to strongmen & bodybuilders.
I wouldn't say he was weak.. He basically lifted the 170 bar over his head, it's not like he failed with a 90 pound bar, then I could see your point.. Back in those days boxers weren't into weightlifting..
It's amazing how much stronger crossfit women are than these "pro" athletes. Camille LeBlanc bassinet warms up with far heavier than the max for these wimps. And she only weighs 130
No idea who she is but are you accounting for height a all? The shorter you are the easier it is and this was in 1973. Men and women have improved a lot since due to improved doping methods, nutrition and training knowledge.
So amazing how strong women competitors and 198 lbs class (and above) female powerlifters are so much stronger than most, if not all, female crossshitters. What’s more amazing is how these female lifters aren’t bragging all the live long day about their accomplishments and going on and on about some kinda wad or some dumb shit or their “mobility” issues and funky cool diet that’s soooo much better and bioavailable than yours....sigh. Dat Frazier hook, d’oh...knock em all out !
Be objective!Boxing is a stamina sport(12 rounds).Weightlifting is an explosive power(absolute force)thing.I think only MikeTyson was the explosive weighlifter type fighter with significant fast fibre type muscle mass.Tyson's had only one problem( Not height. it's a missconception) his physical and mental stamina.
Toby! Lots of girl can lift bigger weights without training or skill.Don't excuse.! Be a man! Frazier was weak.And game over.Try to accept this! Don't be pathetic Toby!
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Who cares about Mr. Frazier's lifting form?. He was one of the best ever in the ring and that's all that matters..
Exactly
He couldn’t lift properly because one of his arms was badly broken as a child and his family couldn’t afford to go see a doctor, so it healed incorrectly, thus he couldn’t straighten his arm.
I bet nobody would say that stuff to Joe's face
I do think that is is sad that they have a statue of a fictional character such as Rocky but a real life hero such as Joe Frazier has nothing. Frazier was a real life Rocky as far as I am concern. As many times as I had been in North Philly, I can't believe I never once tried to stop by his gym just to see if I could meet the man. They say he use to be in there all the time after his boxing days. Sorry I never gave myself a chance to meet the man, they say he was a really good down to earth good guy.
Frazier does have a statue
@@ItsJOHNMayne he does now. Rocky has had a statue there since the 80s even though it was Frazier who ran up and down the stairs and worked in the slaughterhouse since he was a teenager. They say that's where his power came from
Frazier was actually in ROCKY. Smoking Joe needs no cred….I am shocked he struggled with 165 lbs.
That is your fault. Ive gonne all they way from porto alegre, Brasil to run the rocky steps. After that, i looked after Joe Frazier and talk to him for 30 seconds, Just outside the gym, 2008. What a day that was. Rocky is the reason Philly is known outside USA. His Statue is a símbol of freedom and Joy to people everywhere. I also went to see the spectrum, A landmark, and the beautyfull Dr j statue
Would have loved to have met him. What an icon. Didn't claim to have any athletic gifts to speak of (although this is doubtful/him just being modest) but you could not bully the man, frightened Foreman with his determination and Ali was *terrified* of him. At least according to Mark Kram.
In his book, Joe Frazier admitted never training with weights during his boxing career so I don't think this result is too surprising. But as far as functional strength went - the man was a bull. He had Chuvalo reeling away from him and regularly used to bully Norton in sparring - both men who would easily boss Frazier in a weightlifting contest. I bet Bruno could press more than Tyson too... Doesn't mean shit inside the ring.
that's right, totally different kind of strength and not even all physical.
@@mozfonky hell yeah!
Exactly 💯💯💯
In a street fight it will mean a lot
@@earth7551 correct!
Yes frazier can't really weightlift. But try doing his killer boxing drills workout. I bet MOST people can't do it.
where I can find his workout? thanks
@Trump 2016 Where can i find those old school routines?
@Aposteln Trynt Thank you!
@Aposteln Trynt And Joe was usually in top shape. He came forward, like a train, putting immense pressure on his opponents, to say nothing of a sledgehammer left hook, and, as he matured and evolved an above average right hand.
@d Frazier never lifted weights, and despite how strong anyone is, you need to get used to the movement. Frazier also wasn’t able to straighten out one of his arms because he broke it as a child and it healed incorrectly.
Joe didn't lift but still showed strength despite form. Now measure the force of all these guys left hooks and there will be no comparison to the crushing power of Smokin Joe.
calibreeze007 ??? So?
The WHOLE POINT of this programme was that it tested athletes in OTHER areas.
You might as well say that Jean-Claude Killy would beat the others at skiing...
Frazier's left arm was bent after he broke it on a plantation as a little kid. He could never straighten his left arm again as it healed without a cast. If he can't straighten his left arm, then how the hell is he supposed to weight lift?
Arco Iris that's hell true
Arco Iris but the left hook
True mate
that was unknown at the time as was his eye injury
I think you mean his right arm. Frazier broke his right arm which is why he rarely used his right in fights.
Joe Frazier's left arm(the one he threw his trademark hook with) was injured and left crooked when he was a kid..So,when lifting, he wasn't able to straighten his left and lock out the weight..
Boxers just hit the heavy bag and did pushups ad chinups etc. to build their strength back then for strength endurance. Frazier had power, but far more functional for his sport, those guys really fought for 15 rounds throwing punches all the time unlike todays heavyweights who are blowing after 2-3 rounds.
At the age of 23 I was able to military press 215lbs for three reps. But I most likely couldn’t last 10 seconds in the ring with Joe Frazier.
I had pretty similar strength In my early 20's as you did..I was able to military press 185 for 10 reps.. Even now at 51 I could military press 170 for 4 reps..
At age 18-19 I could behind the neck press 155 seated for 5 reps. I only weighed 160 pounds.
But joe frazier did strict form not using legs
Joe frazier have arms problem and elbow problem, and he cannot all open his left hant, beacouse he broked it when he was kid. so sthength not lifting iron
170 is a lot for shoulder press. Especially for somone who's never trained with weights.
Joe Frazier could kill any regular man with his fists.... lifting a barbell overhead isn’t that cool anyways.
Bob Seagren was a great athlete(most pole vaulters are under rated) and person.he promoted some of the distance races i ran in and was a super guy.
Joe Frazier ur a legend
He sure was so why do they have a statue of a fictional Rocky and not joe Frazier
For all you gym rats. Frazier had an accident that stopped him from extending his left arm fully.
He did that on his Dad's pig stall. Joe said it really helped his left hook, the way it healed.
I remember Smokin Joe, back in the 1960,s first in the Olympics coming up as a Amateur HW. Boxer, he Won The Gold Metal, I think it was 1964, and then CLIMBING the RANKS to The Heavyweight Championship of the WORLD.
NOW, That being said,
If Ole Joe took that same FEROCITY he had in the Boxing Jim back then, and applied it to Weightlifting, I think he would have easily lifted more weight And Won in this Contest. Anyway, That's My Opinion on The Great Joe Frazier.
Frazier had problems fully extending his left arm from an injury as a youth
You can see that his left arm looked awkward because it was crooked after an accident when he was younger. Gave him a he'll of a left hook though
Oh Peter Revson! He would be killed in less than a year qualifying for a car race. All the AFX toy racing sets had his picture on it and he was doing TV commercials for the product. I was crushed by his sudden death.
@jooljetkmae
as far as i know that was because he needed to gain weight and go up into a higher weight division, your right though, holyfield is one of the only big name boxer to do serious weight lifting
frazier would destroy them in a push up or sit up contest maybe not weights
bob seagren was a very great atlete, he didn't won the gold medal at munchen, because of a uncorrect decisions of the judges, but in the superstars he proved how great and coplete he was, he was great in every sport, and very professional, in comparison to other atlete who didn't train so seriously as him
Yes, I would have to agree with some of the comments on here and that is 170lbs. isn't light but I use it on a regular basis in my warmups for an exercise called the Push Press which is like the top half of a Clean 'n Jerk Lift. It takes a lot of dedication and consistency as I've worked up to 210lbs. at 56 years of age.
....but getting back to the '73 Superstars Competition - Weightlifting wasn't common back in those days in many of the sports at that time. Only in Football, Bodybuilding, Pro-Wrestling, etc. was it a normal form of exercise due to the nature of the aforementioned sports.
That 170lbs. must have felt very heavy to those athletes in the '73 Superstars Competition (especially for the athletes in skilled sports).
Frazier was a great boxer, no doubt but this was not boxing so everyone should give credit due to the man whom won. Bob Seagren had great form. This also was not pole vaulting. So the comments amaze me. Each one of these guys were professionals in other areas and top notch. Each would fail miserably in the others field of expertise.
Of course. And Seagren even said, that he wouldn't want to get in the ring, with Frazier. Just as the commentator retorted about Joe not wishing to pole vault against Bob. This ought to be fairly obvious.
170 is A LOT for overhead press.
I dont know about Joe'ssupposed physical limitations, but he needed some coaching here. Abysmal technique...he needed to set his feet better and use his legs more.
Put that boy in a ring with Joe. wouldnt last 10 seconds.
Smithy07sham put Frazier in a weight lifting contest watch him get destroyed... Oh weight never mind!!! 😂😂😂
@@bangbang7903 Lmao pussy weight lifting Vs. Boxing 🤣 There's no comparison. Weight liftings for fuck boys who would probably get slapped about by a featherweight 😂😂😂
Ur Ma right BOY. Let Brian Shaw step in BOY.
@@fenwaypark1725 frazier would literally kill Brian shaw
Strongmen fail terribly in combat sports, it has been documented over and over again in kickboxing, MMA and boxing.
Joe is totally clueless about how to lift the weight-but he was a top flight athlete so a few weeks practise and he'd have been lifting plenty with good technique
@2:20 Joe didn’t lift weights but the competitor in him was starting to seep out.
Joe frazer is just wobbling.
Peter Revson was our guy in the neighborhood along with Roger DeCoster!
He did not lock out 160 lbs.
How many girls were heavyweight champ zero
51 years ago.... I did rehab at a gym that had 180lbs dumbells and I think I remember some guy pulling a fully loaded 767 with his nutsack
Joe would have got it but he tryed to press it without using momentum bye squating and pushing it up.
Who gives a fuck about weightlifting he was one of the greatest fighters ever I know which title I'd rather have haha
Exactly it was not his thing.. If he trained for weightlifting he probably could've been good with his short stocky build
@jooljetkmae
Weight lifting has absolutely no relevance to boxing whatsoever. You should know that if your a boxing fan.
toby099 you’re right but a lot of boxers do it tho
Exactly. Lifting weights tighten the muscles. Boxers need supple muscles for better flexibility.
Norton or Bugner lifted much more weight than the overrated Frazier who was weak.
This is the reason why Foreman destroyed Frazier so easily
Smokin Joe injured his arm when he was little and it never properly healed so never could straighten out all the way which also helped to make for his devastating left hook his arm was shaped in an L
That's interesting, I never thought of it that way but I guess it makes sense..
And what about his legs ? I think he was very slow runner at the 100 yard dash.
Plus he was half-blind, with a weak chin but he beat the unbeaten Ali. Ali was overrated.
Not to mention Frazier was a very weak swimmer.
Joe badly damaged left arm as a youngster running from a hog. Due to poverty, he never received treatment and the arm had to heal on its own. He was never fully able to straighten again. Not suited for weight lifting but made one mean left hook for boxing!
Frazier haven't got the technique, another exercise like push 100% winned.
how did u find this?
George Foreman, Mike Tyson, and Evander Holyfield wouldn't have problems lifting heavyweight. Those guys would excel at any strength sports that they choose.
-Holyfield had problems.He never was a remarkable lifter.Check out his superstars performances.
-Tyson in his prime trained only his neck muscle with weight.
-Foreman ? Very questionable.
Wow. Weightlifting doesn't translate to fighting. I lifted more than that as a High School Freshman.
Coach Espinoza A lot of trainers did not allow their fighters to lift back then because they felt that it would mess up their punching
Night Lytt and its true,any hard hitter from Fraizer,Liston to Tyson didnt use weights,they are not so good for boxing
Unfair, depends on how you train with weights. Look at Holyfield before and Anthony Joshua now. A bunch of boxers and MMA guys are training with weights. As far as Tyson, weighted shrugs were a main part of his training. I'm pretty sure he leg pressed every now and then.
Ross Enamait, who is a total badass, encourages weights. He just reminds his followers that weightlifting is one form of resistance, but there are plenty more to choose from.
I can't believe they called Frazier's lift at 160, successful
Joe didnt have a clue about proper form of that exercise he was trying to lift it straight ahead from the holding bars and from triceps xD tho he looked like he didnt care at all
he had an injured left arm he kept secret.
Joe couldn't straighten out his left arm.
Kev Dean left hook babe
what a beautiful wifey for Seagren
STILL SMOKIN!!!!!
Joe Frazier!
Frasier comes from a time when boxers never ever lifted weights
no boxer lift everytime
But he fought in the steroid era and i think you looks too naive.
ross puritty sure did, so did corrie sanders, so did lamont brewster lol.
Oooh Joe...
Seagren’s wife is sooo cute! 🥰
I remember an interview with buster Douglas's manager(can't remember his name,john Johnson?) years back.he said buster Douglas was curling 90 pounds on each arm.before his big upset of Mike tyson
I lifted 230 pds over my head when I was 18, I was ready to enter the marines in 77
Bodybuilding makes you slow n stiff yes a appresive body is good for boxing look at AJ big a muscular but he trains he's muscles in a difrent way they are completly difrent on the inside the way they function
Wife is hot
Joe has horrible lifting form, he'd probably never touched a weight in his life before this. Boxer didn't lift weights back then.
DIZAMMMNNN..lol
You'd expect Frazier to breeze through this.
With a little more technique he joe could have lifted that
@ollie1685 lol
Somebody needed to teach Frazier proper technique because he was strong enough to lift.
When I watch these old vids of these events, it never ceases to amaze me how much better trained today's current athletes are compared to these great ones from the past....most heavyweight fighters these days could easily overhead press 170 lbs......as well as most pole vaulters.....I do think skiers could do it, but not sure about race car drivers....as I consider driving a car more of a skill as opposed to being an athlete.....
Is this for real? Why are these guys being applauded for lifting such little weight?
Ahahhaha
@666marquis riiiite...
The Klits wouldn't have a chance dude...
Boxing is dead (the HW division)
Joe could have done better had he used better form ..
Guess it is true boxers don't lift. Maybe Tyson was the exception.
I don't think Tyson did much lifting. His physique was naturally muscular and he did god awful lot of calesthenics.
There's lesson here in setting reasonable goals : When a heavyweight boxer can't lift 170, or lock-out with 160, it's time to stop comparing yourself to strongmen & bodybuilders.
@d 1:48:"100 & 60" , but you're correct about 170/70
@@lazur1
George Foreman a heavyweight boxer from 1970s casually and effortlessly lifted up a 660+lb cow in a squatting position on his back.
Lol Frazier was weak as hell.
I wouldn't say he was weak.. He basically lifted the 170 bar over his head, it's not like he failed with a 90 pound bar, then I could see your point.. Back in those days boxers weren't into weightlifting..
scalping forever astala Vesta babe..he would smoke everyone ass here
I don't freakin believe you used the term, 'weak', in association with Joe Frazier.
Horrible quality video
combatesdeboxeo boxing Is your copy better?
It's amazing how much stronger crossfit women are than these "pro" athletes. Camille LeBlanc bassinet warms up with far heavier than the max for these wimps. And she only weighs 130
No idea who she is but are you accounting for height a all? The shorter you are the easier it is and this was in 1973. Men and women have improved a lot since due to improved doping methods, nutrition and training knowledge.
well she trains for that so she's going to be stronger.
So amazing how strong women competitors and 198 lbs class (and above) female powerlifters are so much stronger than most, if not all, female crossshitters. What’s more amazing is how these female lifters aren’t bragging all the live long day about their accomplishments and going on and on about some kinda wad or some dumb shit or their “mobility” issues and funky cool diet that’s soooo much better and bioavailable than yours....sigh. Dat Frazier hook, d’oh...knock em all out !
You calling Frazier a wimp? You're a special kind of stupid. How much weight you can lift has nothing to do with fighting skills.
Jesus joe lifts like a little girl.
Any gym rat can pull that lift easily....lmfao....
But no one can fight as Joe, do his boxing workout and last 15 rounds with best boxers of all time.
where i can find his boxing workout? thanks
AIOICBigD and any boxing newbie can beat the shit out of any gym rats and bodybuilders.
Dat Boi Not if said gym rat knows how to fight
@@redbulljones if they dont train they dont know how to fight
Haha! I think it was the lamest excuse ever.
Be objective!Boxing is a stamina sport(12 rounds).Weightlifting is an explosive power(absolute force)thing.I think only MikeTyson was the explosive weighlifter type fighter with significant fast fibre type muscle mass.Tyson's had only one problem( Not height. it's a missconception) his physical and mental stamina.
Toby! Lots of girl can lift bigger weights without training or skill.Don't excuse.!
Be a man! Frazier was weak.And game over.Try to accept this!
Don't be pathetic Toby!
Ain't shit weak about gettin yo ass knocked out and you my sir would b ah knocked out bitch$$
His left hook would litterly kill u bitch
He would still kick the shit out of your dumb ass on his worst day and in a matter of seconds.