That simple Fluke guide to using a meter is essential. The number of graduates I have interviewed that wouldn’t even know how to measure current. It’s nearly 100 percent of graduate electronics engineers couldn’t be trusted to wire a plug. I don’t blame the individuals just the appalling standards of education at university.
I have to agree, my workplace has at times had University students for "work experience" and most come away after 2 weeks having; Learnt how to solder. Learnt how to use a DMM. Learnt how to navigate a scope. Occasionally you get an enthusiast who has a fair idea and soaks up anything you put in front of them.👍 I went back to University in 2000, to upgrade to Bachelor. The course was 3 years long, not 4 years when I did diploma. I had prior learning credits, but walked in on a 2year Electronics class and they were about to be taught OHMS Law!!!😮 Luckily I knew the lecturer and got credit for that, his response was that most first year students hadn't the knowledge of the basic maths or physics to start OHMs Law.
When i was training junior Electronic Technicians it was surprising how often they would refer to the DMM manuals. Sometimes I would hide them forcing them to learn in their head rather than just using their eyes to read.....LOL!
@@douro20 But it should not have to be taught in 2nd Year Engineering, that is halfway through the course. This is basic stuff, at the least it should have been taught in the first semester of first year Engineering. This is tertiary education we are talking about.
My son, a BEng (Hons) brought home a friend's CRT monitor for me to check decades ago. On opening the back cover, I noticed that main fuse was blown and told him that one or more of bridge diode/s was/ were shorted. He then asked, "how do you know?". I told him that I had been dreaming about electronics since 16 years old and now I was 60. I proved to him with a meter and fixed the monitor. So I told him a degree without practical experience was no good.
19:51 I thought I was the only person that put screws in that way, you can use the same technique to reassemble something with self tapping screws, I cringed when I watched someone put the back cover on a a dryer and a refrigerator I had warranty work done on. A channel worth subscribing to.
I have this meter and I am stunned how accurate this meter is on a percentage error basis it way exceeds the published specifications . This is a real bargain costing about $150 in the Fluke line up. This will be the meter I will judge the accuracy of my other generic meters on since I do not own laboratory grade test equipment such as you are using.
I picked up some Amprobe 1000V CAT IV leads a while back. They stand out of my meter's sockets a bit but they work. I bought them because they were reasonably priced.
I hate seeing a Fluke in one of those Vac Formed cases made to hang on hooks in the local store like you find in the Pound Shop or Tesco Home and Ware, makes them look cheap IMO and they most certainly are not. I think my thoughts on this stem from seeing the 5 quid meter's hanging in Maplin's (RIP) back when I were a lad, I also think Fluke should spring for a decent set of leads with them not just 'meh their ok' type of things. I dont think I've bought anything over 50 quid packaged like that and certainly not for 190 or maybe im a snob! always interesting to watch...cheers.
The precision is unmatched. Nice PCB. Well laid out and see they've used alot of SMD instead of larger components. Nice battery compartment. I think 9V is better power choice as a self contained battery vs bunch of triple A. Never seen a 9V leak yet plus lasts forever. Iconic yellow case with a nice side mounted dial so can easily rotate with one thumb. Good kickstand. Nice overall design. Really only complaint is the price. Brymen are nice alternatives as well but you can't beat a Fluke. Great review. 👍
The screen peel! :o I find myself leaving the temporary screen protector on my new devices as long as possible, my tv still has one on the logo, my drone controller on its screen, and I'll peel my thermal imager once I've created a 3D printed cover for it.
@@douro20 That would be cool but I fly racing type drones using goggles for the feeling of being free to go anywhere in the air, a thermal imager is more suited to the 'tripod in the sky' style GPS drones.
The only criticism I'd offer, as far as actual, practical use, is that the 'Hold' feature isn't even the same basic function as the Touch-Hold on the 87V or, for that matter, on my ancient 27/FM (so you can pay full attention to what your fingers are up to, and read the measurement later, once you're out of harm's way). The Hold on the 117 just captures the display at that instant. I suppose if you manually set your anticipated range and use Max you'd get roughly the same result, but having that Hold button on the front sure could lead a buyer into thinking it has the well-known Touch-Hold. Seems almost like a misrepresentation. Still, a terrific product for the money.
Good review . Looks like a decent little meter. A much better enunciator than the old flat ones which when I used to calibrate was a common problem . Same applies to the lead socket board mounts Our meters used to get abused something terrible by field engineers who worked outdoors 90% in all weathers. . Winding leads around the meter instead of removing them was a killer. Got fed up re mounting the sockets
Love the video. Question please :why it can't measure voltage at high frequency but can measure high frquency based on the specs and your video.. thanks
@@hosainparchment5692 The 117 would probably meet all the needs of a non industrial residential electrician but if you do industrial work you might need the Fluke 87-V,
Regarding the Low Ohm measurement, Does this meter has shorted lead calibration mode? My Fluke 76 has that. It discounts leads resistance from Low Ohm measurement.
I have used the 117 for 10 years and think it is as good as you can get for HVAC work. The 116 that is for HVAC has temperature measurement but I rather use a dedicated thermometer. The only problems I have had is the sounder failed after my wife put the meter in the washing machine. The other problem is the battery cover screw pulls through the plastic. I replaced the cover with one from a scrap 116 and even though I deliberately kept it only nipped up it did the same thing. I recently lost it, obviously the useless apprentice's fault. After looking for something better I will be getting another as it still looks the best for me. It would have been good to see him recalibrate it. I think you hold down the blue button and turn on to Ohms, there is a video of the method. This would show if it had a calibration problem.
Without a doubt it is the industry standard for professional work. A little pricey but you buy one good Fluke it lasts forever. Unless you lose it. Check out the Brymen as they're pretty good too and bit cheaper.
@@jonfreeman9682 I am looking at other brands but the 117 gets everything right. One handed operation, good NCV and not many functions I don't need. I use a Uni T amp clamp, UT201E I think it is, which is very handy and gets into tight panels. Along with an ancient Newlec branded Megger, I can do all my electrical testing. So I am not a brand snob but the 117 ticks all the boxes and as people say, when on site customers do like to see you with a Fluke as that is the only brand they use. I will probably go for one off Ebay as there are some bargains now and then. I have just bought a Uni T UT61E+ for a job while at my house in Thailand - setting up a Lifpo4 BMS. That should do me in the meantime and pretty good for £50.
@@foxythedirtydog4494 You're right. This particular model nails the essentials and has two key features other models don't have... the ergonomic thumb wheel and the NCV which is really handy working in the field. That NCV could be life saving. I'm the same I don't like meters that are cluttered with useless functions like temperature, decibels, frequency. You never use them. I only ever use voltage and continuity. Also I've seen meters with big color screens that are just gimmicks. Fluke is designed and branded for professionals and customers like to see they hired a professional and not a budget contractor. Fluke is like Mercedes-Benz. There are cheaper cars but they're not Mercedes. I have a real estate friend who says he has to drive a Mercedes or customers don't take him seriously. LoL. Fluke is the standard for professionals. But for most people who don't do electrical work professionally an el cheapo meter honestly works fine. ☝️
problem - what do you do with it? end of the day FLUKE can round their meters to 3 categories 1 general where the 117 rules the day, the 87v for finer bench measurements, and then you get into the various induction categories where the 373 reigns supreme @@TheDefpom
mobile repair? you need to be more specific my friend. dont know where your from (because i dont know what your standards are) but this meter is top notch for DIY or electrician work, where you're not looking for tiny voltages or amps, but doing everyday man work. if you mean by mobile repair - cell phone work or small electronic work you will need a better meter, say a FLUKE 87v.
Привет снова! Хочу получить свой первый fluke но не могу определить какой выбираю между 117 и 175 вы имели дело с двумя, какой из них вы можете рекомендовать и по чему! У меня уже есть иные измерители включая BM869s но это будет первый fluke! Благодарю!
I was thinking about picking up this model it's nice how the battery is entertainable Continuity mode is very fast Would be awesome to see probe masters use with those 🙄
Replace the batteries, if that doesn't work try power it on with the yellow button pressed to disable auto power off, if it still doesn't work get hold of Fluke as they offer lifetime warranty on their meters.
Hi! I like your way of reviewing dmms! It is somewhat funny and technical at the same time. I remember that the fluke 110 series have 0.5% dcv accuracy, not 2%, hmm..
Ah! Beauty of an electrician or DIY meter! not a bench meter or looking for small voltages meter. love this meter, have one at home. use an 87v for work. funny thing, the author of this vid complains about the leads - rightfully so. I work in the desert - the leads are much more plyable and easy to use. remember this ISNT a bench meter, whos reading 10mV on an electrician meter... but its the best your going to get for its spec.
I hope you can review the BK precision Like 2704C,2707B, or 390A model, there aren't many reviews on TH-cam. I just want to see performance before I get decided to buy. great help to others. before they buy
I must be one of the few people who prefers leaving the screen peel on the screen! I have a huge dislike to removing it (Unless it's the annoying plastic ones they put on the front of monitors).
@@xfloodcasual8124 try running the probes along a row of header pins or IC pins trying to trace a connection and you will see why continuity response time is important. Don’t confuse how fast electricity moves with how quickly the meter responds to sensing the probes connected together, I’ve measured response times as slow as 250ms !
@@TheDefpom Agree but you just need to tap it from 1mm away to experience the response time. The "swing" you are doing is irrelevant to the moment the probes tap. I use Hioki + Fluke and the feeling of response time of Hioki is much faster, so you can feel it.
That simple Fluke guide to using a meter is essential. The number of graduates I have interviewed that wouldn’t even know how to measure current. It’s nearly 100 percent of graduate electronics engineers couldn’t be trusted to wire a plug. I don’t blame the individuals just the appalling standards of education at university.
I have to agree, my workplace has at times had University students for "work experience" and most come away after 2 weeks having;
Learnt how to solder.
Learnt how to use a DMM.
Learnt how to navigate a scope.
Occasionally you get an enthusiast who has a fair idea and soaks up anything you put in front of them.👍
I went back to University in 2000, to upgrade to Bachelor.
The course was 3 years long, not 4 years when I did diploma.
I had prior learning credits, but walked in on a 2year Electronics class and they were about to be taught OHMS Law!!!😮
Luckily I knew the lecturer and got credit for that, his response was that most first year students hadn't the knowledge of the basic maths or physics to start OHMs Law.
When i was training junior Electronic Technicians it was surprising how often they would refer to the DMM manuals. Sometimes I would hide them forcing them to learn in their head rather than just using their eyes to read.....LOL!
@@tomgeorge3726 Ohm's Law is simple algebra! It's important for anyone to understand who is designing electronics.
@@douro20 But it should not have to be taught in 2nd Year Engineering, that is halfway through the course.
This is basic stuff, at the least it should have been taught in the first semester of first year Engineering.
This is tertiary education we are talking about.
My son, a BEng (Hons) brought home a friend's CRT monitor for me to check decades ago.
On opening the back cover, I noticed that main fuse was blown and told him that one or more of bridge diode/s was/ were shorted.
He then asked, "how do you know?".
I told him that I had been dreaming about electronics since 16 years old and now I was 60.
I proved to him with a meter and fixed the monitor.
So I told him a degree without practical experience was no good.
19:51 I thought I was the only person that put screws in that way, you can use the same technique to reassemble something with self tapping screws, I cringed when I watched someone put the back cover on a a dryer and a refrigerator I had warranty work done on. A channel worth subscribing to.
I have this meter and I am stunned how accurate this meter is on a percentage error basis it way exceeds the published specifications . This is a real bargain costing about $150 in the Fluke line up. This will be the meter I will judge the accuracy of my other generic meters on since I do not own laboratory grade test equipment such as you are using.
I picked up some Amprobe 1000V CAT IV leads a while back. They stand out of my meter's sockets a bit but they work. I bought them because they were reasonably priced.
My next multimeter, thanks !
I hate seeing a Fluke in one of those Vac Formed cases made to hang on hooks in the local store like you find in the Pound Shop or Tesco Home and Ware, makes them look cheap IMO and they most certainly are not. I think my thoughts on this stem from seeing the 5 quid meter's hanging in Maplin's (RIP) back when I were a lad, I also think Fluke should spring for a decent set of leads with them not just 'meh their ok' type of things. I dont think I've bought anything over 50 quid packaged like that and certainly not for 190 or maybe im a snob! always interesting to watch...cheers.
Who really cares about store packaging just buy a proper case for it once you put it to use. A molle bag costs under $15 USD.
@@robc8468 His point was about ‘presentation’ and expectations regarding a higher priced item, there skippy.
looks to me like they cut off everything
The precision is unmatched. Nice PCB. Well laid out and see they've used alot of SMD instead of larger components. Nice battery compartment. I think 9V is better power choice as a self contained battery vs bunch of triple A. Never seen a 9V leak yet plus lasts forever. Iconic yellow case with a nice side mounted dial so can easily rotate with one thumb. Good kickstand. Nice overall design. Really only complaint is the price. Brymen are nice alternatives as well but you can't beat a Fluke. Great review. 👍
Excellent, and I agree 💯 on the 9 Volt battery!
My 2 117s both came with nice very flexible twistguard leads, strange seeing one come without them.
The screen peel! :o
I find myself leaving the temporary screen protector on my new devices as long as possible, my tv still has one on the logo, my drone controller on its screen, and I'll peel my thermal imager once I've created a 3D printed cover for it.
Thermal imager for your drone?
@@douro20 That would be cool but I fly racing type drones using goggles for the feeling of being free to go anywhere in the air, a thermal imager is more suited to the 'tripod in the sky' style GPS drones.
pls test speed when doing max voltage dc and ac... if we have pulses 1-5 pct duty cycle,,, 20hz to 2khz,,, can it see it,,, or meter is too slow
Excellent tear apart.
Not the most accurate meter of all time...but for an electrician I guess it doesn't have to be.
Great tutorial
I have a Fluke 115 for automotive work and it’s dead on for what I do .
The only criticism I'd offer, as far as actual, practical use, is that the 'Hold' feature isn't even the same basic function as the Touch-Hold on the 87V or, for that matter, on my ancient 27/FM (so you can pay full attention to what your fingers are up to, and read the measurement later, once you're out of harm's way). The Hold on the 117 just captures the display at that instant. I suppose if you manually set your anticipated range and use Max you'd get roughly the same result, but having that Hold button on the front sure could lead a buyer into thinking it has the well-known Touch-Hold. Seems almost like a misrepresentation. Still, a terrific product for the money.
Yes a hold when pressed feature is a bit limiting.
funny is that Fluke 77-IV model has the same "HOLD" button, but it is actually AutoHold, not manual hold.
Hi.did compare ut117c to vs fluke117 & masermant bandwedth
Good review .
Looks like a decent little meter.
A much better enunciator than the old flat ones which when I used to calibrate was a common problem .
Same applies to the lead socket board mounts
Our meters used to get abused something terrible by field engineers who worked outdoors 90% in all weathers. .
Winding leads around the meter instead of removing them was a killer.
Got fed up re mounting the sockets
Love the video. Question please :why it can't measure voltage at high frequency but can measure high frquency based on the specs and your video.. thanks
Question what is the best fluke multimeter for an Electrician? If I buy the Fluke 87-V max would that be a bad choice?
Depends on what kind of electrician you are what all you do the 87-v Max is great but it might be over kill for what you do
Domestic
@@hosainparchment5692 the 117 is a much better fit for general electrician
Any multimeter can do unless you need brand name certifications and reliability for industry applications where precision is critical.
@@hosainparchment5692 The 117 would probably meet all the needs of a non industrial residential electrician but if you do industrial work you might need the Fluke 87-V,
Regarding the Low Ohm measurement, Does this meter has shorted lead calibration mode? My Fluke 76 has that. It discounts leads resistance from Low Ohm measurement.
this model does not have low ohm measurement like Fluke 79-III for example
It's a relatively entry to mid level Fluke multimeter. It's not going to have specialized stuff.
I have used the 117 for 10 years and think it is as good as you can get for HVAC work. The 116 that is for HVAC has temperature measurement but I rather use a dedicated thermometer.
The only problems I have had is the sounder failed after my wife put the meter in the washing machine. The other problem is the battery cover screw pulls through the plastic. I replaced the cover with one from a scrap 116 and even though I deliberately kept it only nipped up it did the same thing. I recently lost it, obviously the useless apprentice's fault. After looking for something better I will be getting another as it still looks the best for me.
It would have been good to see him recalibrate it. I think you hold down the blue button and turn on to Ohms, there is a video of the method. This would show if it had a calibration problem.
Without a doubt it is the industry standard for professional work. A little pricey but you buy one good Fluke it lasts forever. Unless you lose it. Check out the Brymen as they're pretty good too and bit cheaper.
@@jonfreeman9682 I am looking at other brands but the 117 gets everything right. One handed operation, good NCV and not many functions I don't need. I use a Uni T amp clamp, UT201E I think it is, which is very handy and gets into tight panels. Along with an ancient Newlec branded Megger, I can do all my electrical testing. So I am not a brand snob but the 117 ticks all the boxes and as people say, when on site customers do like to see you with a Fluke as that is the only brand they use. I will probably go for one off Ebay as there are some bargains now and then. I have just bought a Uni T UT61E+ for a job while at my house in Thailand - setting up a Lifpo4 BMS. That should do me in the meantime and pretty good for £50.
@@foxythedirtydog4494 You're right. This particular model nails the essentials and has two key features other models don't have... the ergonomic thumb wheel and the NCV which is really handy working in the field. That NCV could be life saving. I'm the same I don't like meters that are cluttered with useless functions like temperature, decibels, frequency. You never use them. I only ever use voltage and continuity. Also I've seen meters with big color screens that are just gimmicks. Fluke is designed and branded for professionals and customers like to see they hired a professional and not a budget contractor. Fluke is like Mercedes-Benz. There are cheaper cars but they're not Mercedes. I have a real estate friend who says he has to drive a Mercedes or customers don't take him seriously. LoL. Fluke is the standard for professionals. But for most people who don't do electrical work professionally an el cheapo meter honestly works fine. ☝️
Do they make leads with load to measure household batteries?
like Fluke SV225 for high voltage?
ES LoadPro is something you can try. I have never used it and only heard from one person they liked it.
Many thanks for your great review
Do you think Fluke 117 is best choice for mobile repair or not?
I own the 117, 175 and 89, I find the 175 to be the one I use most.
problem - what do you do with it? end of the day FLUKE can round their meters to 3 categories 1 general where the 117 rules the day, the 87v for finer bench measurements, and then you get into the various induction categories where the 373 reigns supreme @@TheDefpom
mobile repair? you need to be more specific my friend. dont know where your from (because i dont know what your standards are) but this meter is top notch for DIY or electrician work, where you're not looking for tiny voltages or amps, but doing everyday man work. if you mean by mobile repair - cell phone work or small electronic work you will need a better meter, say a FLUKE 87v.
Haha.. Loved failed screen peel at the end 😂
Cheers
John
Only disappointing thing is the backlight. The led in just one corner is a bit old and cheap....
Backlight is a bit of a disappointment, but at least it is there. This meter has been around for a long while, and tried and true.
Привет снова! Хочу получить свой первый fluke но не могу определить какой выбираю между 117 и 175 вы имели дело с двумя, какой из них вы можете рекомендовать и по чему! У меня уже есть иные измерители включая BM869s но это будет первый fluke! Благодарю!
The 175 is one of my favourites.
@ почему?
I was thinking about picking up this model it's nice how the battery is entertainable Continuity mode is very fast
Would be awesome to see probe masters use with those 🙄
I would like some of those Probemaster probes they are very nice.
@@allthegearnoidea6752 By far the best probes I've ever had there around $75 USA
Oh it has LowZ. That’s a nice feature to have.
for electrical work, yes!
sir. i have a FLUKE 115. But the miter is automatic off after 3o second .please tel me what can i do .
Replace the batteries, if that doesn't work try power it on with the yellow button pressed to disable auto power off, if it still doesn't work get hold of Fluke as they offer lifetime warranty on their meters.
Review BK precision 2704C please?
Hi! I like your way of reviewing dmms! It is somewhat funny and technical at the same time. I remember that the fluke 110 series have 0.5% dcv accuracy, not 2%, hmm..
They have to include the start up sheet for liability reasons,
Ah! Beauty of an electrician or DIY meter! not a bench meter or looking for small voltages meter. love this meter, have one at home. use an 87v for work. funny thing, the author of this vid complains about the leads - rightfully so. I work in the desert - the leads are much more plyable and easy to use. remember this ISNT a bench meter, whos reading 10mV on an electrician meter... but its the best your going to get for its spec.
I hope you can review the BK precision Like 2704C,2707B, or 390A model, there aren't many reviews on TH-cam. I just want to see performance before I get decided to buy. great help to others. before they buy
I must be one of the few people who prefers leaving the screen peel on the screen! I have a huge dislike to removing it (Unless it's the annoying plastic ones they put on the front of monitors).
Only the owner can remove it
Mine usually fall off naturally at some point then I cut a phone screen protector to fit and apply so I stay happy
Helps to protect from scratches and keep it in mint condition. But Fluke is pretty rugged so can last.
@@jonfreeman9682 Agreed and the protective film cuts down on reflective glare from ambient light as well as protecting the screen.scratches.
4:44 The speed you hit the leads together doesn't make the test harder for it, unless you moved faster than the speed of light.
@@xfloodcasual8124 try running the probes along a row of header pins or IC pins trying to trace a connection and you will see why continuity response time is important. Don’t confuse how fast electricity moves with how quickly the meter responds to sensing the probes connected together, I’ve measured response times as slow as 250ms !
@@TheDefpom Agree but you just need to tap it from 1mm away to experience the response time. The "swing" you are doing is irrelevant to the moment the probes tap. I use Hioki + Fluke and the feeling of response time of Hioki is much faster, so you can feel it.
I,think "Congor " Brand Is the best avometer so high accuracy.. Made in Finland
can it measure upto 6000 v
1000V
Maximum 600V but CATIII
Very similar to my Digitech QM1543.
Why you wear watch very tight ?
Why You ask skippy?
Fine