I like the HP more, the Dell looks sleeker but I prefer the cooler aesthetic of those angles in the HP's design. The soldered-on drive in the Dell is a dealbreaker for me. But the most important thing that makes the Hp take the cake is definitely the wallpaper! Can you link it? 😂
Based on the prices you showed in the video, the Dell isn't available for 900$. The cheapest is 1000$ with 4 GB, but most people would need to go even more expensive for the 8 GB.
"4GB on a $999 is being disrespectful to the consumer" - thank you for this Dave. I don't know why nobody else talk like this. Also, 128GB non-upgradeable SSD on any laptop is disrespectful.
And not even "non-upgradeable". Your entire SSD is also completely destroyed and all data is UNRECOVERABLE if any other major motherboard part fails (CPU, RAM, VRM). It's a whole lot of fucking trust and nobody, not Dell, not Apple, etc. is good enough to ask for that bulllllshit. Data should not be held hostage against consumers on consumer-level hardware.
Seriously? If you look for gaming laptops why would you check out one that can be flipped over? And especially some, with a weight of roughly 2kg? A laptop without weight is simply not for gaming
I have a Louis Rossmann sticker from his store including that phrase from a ranting customer who apparently doesn't like labels on his MacBook that are almost impossible to remove. LOL
For anyone interested in these devices I would really recommend to go with HP Spectre. In 2017 I got one of these badboys. I got 13inch spectre with 8gb of ram and 260gb SSD. To this day I use it daily, battery life still holds up for about 6-9hours of light use. I do programming on it and its amazing. I love it and the next laptop I am going to buy will be HP. For touchscreen I would recommend it only for people who read alot because it is way easier to use it as a tablet when you study.
I have the 2020 model, & love this thing. Not the most powerful laptop on the market, & Iris XE graphics don't stack up to a modern 3050Ti in some laptops, but the 4k OLED is too stunning to give up! I'm loving this laptop so much i'm about to upgrade the 1TB SSD to 2TB to future-proof it (I just wish the RAM could be upgraded too).
If anyone is considering buying the xps 15 2in1 (9575): I am in medical school and i used the xps for every lecture in first year. I wrote down notes with the pen but after a time i just didn't like the feeling because of the high latency. That's why i now just use it as a regular laptop for medical school. In my free time i'm doing photography and graphic design, that's why i chose the 15" model (for the better performance). I actually would not recommend this 2in1 device...it's good to have the opportunity to use this laptop as a tablet, but in practice, you will be probably just using it as a regular laptop. I would rather recommend buying the regular 15"/13" model and saving up the money for something else🤷🏻♂️
It's like something you crave for the first time and then realize it's not worth enough. I'm a Doctor and all i do on laptop are reading some PDFs or making a presentation, rest are entertainment. For study purpose, i should get an iPad.
Min Gyu I wouldn't agree about pen, overall pen experience is not that good but you should understand what it's for. Even a good pen with touchscreen will unlikely replace you a Wacom drawing tablet, but it's enough for prototyping (maybe it's because I've played with pen modes but I can't see much delay, it's just feels non precise and uncomfortable). It's definitely not for daily notes I think, more for some digital drawing mockups as I see. Something that XPS 2-in-1 buyers should be aware of is that Dell's software is a complete piece of garbage. Pen settings is worst app ever existed, default power settings are so bad that you won't be able to watch a video normally, it cannot go modern sleep and it's lid just can't wake it up which is so annoying considering you need to waste half a minute to wake it up. Not great, not terrible, I would think of Surface laptop better for pro use and iPad for notes.
This and comments and it’s replies are exactly what I needed to hear. I’m going into medical school and I want something to write my notes in and was trying to figure out what to get
I'm not sure what you mean! I've been using active pens since surface pro 2 and currently use the XPS 13 2 in 1 . It works great for now taking. I'm mostly using one note or pdf readers. It is great for meeting notes and jotting down ideas. Instant one note sync ensures that I never loose thoughts.
I made an expensive mistake by buying the Dell XPS 2-in-1. I would dearly love to send it back, but it’s too late. I have the HP Spectre X360 on order. Your review captures most of the downside I experienced with the Dell. One difference - I got the 4K display. My new Spectre will have the FHD display. I haven’t been able to get used to the MagLev keyboard. It is difficult to use for any period of time because of the extra force you have to use to press keys. My typing error rate is much higher. The 4K screen is pretty, but it sucks the battery. To get 4-hour battery life, you have to turn the brightness way down. I can’t live with 4 hours of battery life. The lack of a USB-A port means that almost everything you plug in has to be done via a dongle or an adapter. There are two devices I use regularly that don’t come in USB-C variants: Logitech Unifying Receiver for my mouse and the receiver for my headset. Yes, I know I could use Bluetooth but it doesn’t work as well as the native plug-ins for these two frequently used devices. I have to use an adapter which means they stick out very far. I hate that. I travel frequently. I have a backpack for all the things you need when you travel. Not sure how much it weights fully loaded. Here is my point: Dell wanted to make the thinnest laptop in this category. It shaved off a couple of millimeters to achieve this spec. In the process it had to have a terrible keyboard and smaller battery. But practically speaking, if you did a blind A/B test with my backpack loaded with the Dell + adapter vs. HP + adapter, I doubt that there would be a noticeable difference. WHen you actually use either device, the difference is huge: worse typing experience and worst battery life. Yes, I know - blame the 4K for much of that. What I worry about the HP is similar: They shaved down the formerly thick bezels and have created a stumpy-size laptop. Will it have enough room to rest my palms? It has a much smaller trackpad. HP would have been wise to increase the vertical size of the display the way Dell did and give a little extra room for palm rest, trackpad size, and a little bigger battery. But that would increase the size and weight which the marketing department wouldn’t like. Again, I suggest using the loaded backpack test as a reference point - a couple of extra millimeters, inches, and ounces to enhance usability is a trade off that will have no practical impact on true mobility. I’m hoping the HP will make me forget about the expensive mistake I made. I’m also hoping that in a couple of years one or both of these companies will prioritize laptop user experience over specs and will aspire to “greatest laptop”, not “thinnest” or “smallest”.
SheTimpsons LOL. The new Dell XPS 13 came out and it fixed everything that bugged me about the Dell XPS 2-in-1. So I canceled the HP order. I had to pay a restocking fee. Then I sobered up (so to speak) and decided to make peace with my 2-in-1 and not waste my money. I’ll upgrade a year or two from now when the specs are really worth it.
For anyone thinking of the HP spectre, I just recently purchased one and it’s great. He didn’t touch on this in the video so I just want to say that the HP gets pretty hot when using it, it does cool itself down but only after a certain temperature is reached and at that point the fans become loud. Don’t let this throw you away from buying the laptop tho it’s still great!
@@davidkoziar1811 I am running file explorer, PowerPoint, google chrome with a few tabs open, and usually a PDF editor when the fans turn on. Generally if I lift the laptop up from the desk for a minute the fans go off but they do get pretty loud. I would recommend a laptop cooler, that should help with airflow.
@@michaelbotelho51 Thanks. Ugh. I am struggling on the right 2 in 1 to get. I love the aesthetics of the Spectre but I also love the better specs of the Lenevo 740c at the same price point
One of the configs of this Late 2019 Spectre x360 is with a 4K OLED screen, so I'd say the advantage in this department actually goes to the Spectre. Beautiful review though!
For many 4K is overkill on a 13-inch laptop and a battery killjoy. OLED is not really good for office stuff as the white backgrounds run the battery down much quicker. I do not get OLED on a work device that is not 45-watt. Paying extra for no benefit other than blacker blacks does not do it for me. It is not compulsory so I suppose my point is irreverent, just saying.
If they could ditch the fucking 4k 16:9 for a 3000:2000 display it would be so much better. first of 16:9 actually isnt that good of a ratio for small devices if you want to get stuff done other than watching videos. And most of the time you just get FHD or 4K. FHD looks dated even on a 13", you can clearly see pixels, especially looking at text. But 4K feels kind of over the top. I mean I like the resolution, but the impact on battery life in combination with intels dogshit UHD graphics often fail to impress. Responsetimes and framerate are often just sluggish. A 3:2 Screen would make so much more sense. More practical Screenspace, fewer Pixels for less battery drain and gpu demand and still a sharp image. But i guess a 3:2 screen is way more expensive to buy for them so thats that. p.s. i have a Spectre x360 from 2017 with a 4k screen so i know what im talking about.
1:20 and just like that, D2D just debunked millions of dollars in Intel's marketing investment... He did the same with Apple and the i9 fiasco. Soft spoken people are the most dangerous people 😂😂😂
Same here I'd like to hear Dave's opinions on the c940. it has a 4K 500 knit display and I'd like to hear his thoughts on how that compares to these two.
the (no-boring-)intro style of these videos is amazing. honestly, some of the other youtubers out there think they're 20th century fox or something. keep up the good work.
@@IDiggPattyMayonnaise yes, but then again most people shouldn't be spending this much for such a device. Most laymen would purchase a cheaper laptop to do the same job. No one would spend $1k just to browse emails and write on word.
RAM is so damn cheap these days that it makes zero fucking sense, 2 sticks of 8gb RAM for a CONSUMER is less than eighty bucks, they have no excuse since when buying in bulk they would get severe discounts.
@@RennieAsh As you get older your eyes change, significant amounts of reading or using computers (mobile too) strain your eye muscles. A small prescription just reduces eye strain, which is potentially what the headache is from... Spending time doing eye exercises and more time outside viewing close/far, etc will help
I'd never own a Dell again after their incompetence dealing with the XPS 15's thermal issues and horrible BIOS updates that did things like nerf the GPU to such a low temperature limit it was worthless. Haven't had an HP in years, but it looks nice.
C A I was there when ThrottleStop was being written with the now-ancient XPS 16. Dell intentionally pushes their CPUs to overheating / power limits for benchmarks and we knew it. If they had set the limits slightly lower with better cooling, they would've had much better sustained performance. After that experience in 2009-10, I've never bought another high-end Dell. The Inspiron stuff ain't half bad, though.
Nice comparison. One thing which has been grinding me in general (not just here) is the focus on a 'powerful device' being synonymous with video editing or gaming. For those of us who need a good, fast CPU and lots of memory for data crunching/analysis where no GPU acceleration is possible, the graphical capabilities are somewhat irrelevant. It would be nice to see how these kind of devices perform in these kinds of tasks too.
Really interested in your experience with HP's quality control since you have reviewed a few of their laptops. My experience with their quality control has been horrible but that could just be an outlier.
Yes - my Spectre 13 (2019 OLED edition) has a slightly loose trackpad, other users have complained of creaks and pops from the chassis. It also has pretty poor thermals, but this probably applies to most thin and lights.
@@rossdev I had that trackpad issue with the envy x360 o bought, had to send it back, it's a real shame as it was perfect otherwise, nice design, good ports, mx250, plus the glorious speakers, I honestly think it's a great laptop but man the number of people with the same problem is just insane
It also could just be that you're not a tech-reviewing TH-camr with 2.5+ million subs. 🤔 Quinn from SnazzyLabs had the sort of Apple CS experience that the rest of us should be used to and resigned to, and they resolved the issue by giving him a new iMac Pro.
You’re not mentioning that the Dell’s screen has a 16:10 ratio! Other reviewers also say that the Dell has a much lower reflectivity. I would have loved to have your view on this as well.
He said, Dell has better aspect ratio. At this point, Dave doesn't make the most detailed reviewed out there because of duration. He covers point which other generic reviews won't.
I think you're going to enjoy it very much. I have an older generation of the Spectre (8th Gen Kaby Lake-R) and my brother has the c930 (Last gen) and I can tell you just build quality alone, the Lenovo is noticably sturdier (the HP feels a bit more hollow) but the typing is very good on both. c930 has better speakers but the Spectre has the better display. Granted these are from the previous generation so if you buy a newer model I don't think you can go wrong with either Spectre or Yoga c930, most of it comes down to aesthetic preference with the Lenovo looking more of a simpler and cleaner laptop.
@@andynguyen3382 I ordered the C940 (14 inch) one with 10th gen i7 with 16gb DDR4X 3733mhz and the 1080p display because I am a student and I value the battery life more. I JUST picked it up 30 minutes ago and SUPER EXCITED TO UNBOX IT!!!
To be honest Dave go in depth in hardware, he would have to review the PureOS. librem is weaker in every aspect, the focus is totally different, more in not be traced than in performace. If anyone wants to the OS is free and works well on most laptops, I recommend it.
Hey Dave great video, and am looking at getting one of the spectres myself! Just wanted to let you know, there is a little mistake at 1:26. The processor in the Spectre is a 1065G7 as it has Iris plus Graphics. The 10710u is a 6 core CPU with 620 graphics.
Where were you two weeks ago I lost sleep looking for the perfect 2 in 1. But I am happy to hear you of all people say that I chose right. Loving the x360 from day one. And side note I can do light gaming mostly blizzard games.
Shiver Bliss I have no complaints when it comes to speed or performance. It meets all my needs perfectly. Battery life is surprisingly good, and when I need to travel with it I don't notice it all. Very easy to grab and go. It looks great and feels solid, and most importantly for me the keyboard is comfortable to type on for extended periods of time. I don't regret it at all.
Especially their keyboards! At University i always seet HP machines with broken Keyboards and other problems. They just feel cheap(even the one in the video). Even Acer manages to have better Quality with budget Laptops
I had an HP Elite book , it was made out of one piece of aluminum. It was solid as a brick. Awesome little laptop. It was only 12inches wide , touch screen. Had thunderbolt 3 ,Ethernet,HDMI,SD card sd slot reader
“But the HP has this really cool USB A port, I’ve never seen anything like this” And I thought he was going to be sarcastic and rip on the whole industry but here it was being innovative 😂
Everybody is always talking about Dell's XPS, meanwhile I got the Dell Inspiron 14 2in1 with a 10th gen core i7, 16gb ram and 512gb ssd for €950. really underrated!!
Cyprian Joye I paid nearly same for the Spectre x360 in the video with those exact same specs (when converted; US $1130) .... Dell is just overpriced sometimes (4 GB for $999 was a dead giveaway) and they should be shamed when their competitors are doing way way way better.
I loved your bits on MKBHD and Supersaf's channels. I love how you're so serious on your own channel, but there you went full madman. You're amazing, much love.
I ordered the XPS to replace my Surface Pro 4 for college, mostly based on the design, can't say I'm a huge fan out the HP's angles and such, but hey I suppose thats just subjective
Yes! Perhaps now the Microsoft Surface Pro prices will begin to drop now that other companies are jumping on Tablet PC's. Would love to see huge improvements in the tablet department.
Hey Dave how would you consider these against Surface Pro? I thought Surface Pro would always be in the show when it comes to any 2 in 1 debate. Did you just want to compare these two or do you think these are significantly better than Surface Pro that you wouldn't even bother discussing it together?
As a reviewer, it’s good that Dave included a little bit about the speakers, but I think not many people nowadays still put a laptop speaker in consideration. I see ppl always use headphone in almost all occasion even when they’re at home.
You're legit the best tech reviewer dude my bro homie man I could ask for FOR REAL bc I was waiting for someone to do these two devices and here you are to save the day
I've seen two other well-known reviewers this week say that they're now using the XPS as their main laptop, so I was stunned when you recommended the HP. I'm not in the market for a 2-in-1 but I just enjoy the way you break things down in such a straightforward way.
Nikka M Did you watch the beginning of the video? It's a huge Dell marketing stunt. The x360 just won Editors' Choice at CNET, Laptop Mag, and PC World all within the past 6 days. 80% of TH-cam reviewers are bootlickers and Dell knew that 🙃
I am having such a hard time deciding between these 2. I was bothered by the soldered everything on the XPS but then I realized ... so are macbooks, etc.
Im currently looking for a 2-1 and came across this interesting unit called "eve spectre". You seem to give honest reviews and your opinion on this is appreciated. Thanks
I have the gem cut early 2019 and the updated one literally fixes all the minor gripes I have with it. Just to add, I wanted a 2 in 1 because I can use it as the medium for my digital reference material without moving my head up and down like a usual monitor. I can now look down left and right as if I was reading a traditional book
I had the 2017 version of the HP Spectre, and I really loved it. But I had to change to a new laptop as fast as I can, and the only new option available was the Dell XPS 2 in 1 2019 4k version. It was expensive.The laptop overall is good. The battery life is average to kinda and for some reason I'm having Bluetooth connectivity issues and it's a common problem among Dell products. But it's a great laptop with great design (better than spectre in my opinion). Although I miss having an USB A port in my laptop and I still prefer the spectres keyboard.
nah, im watching this on an xps 15 with more upgradability than the specter he has there. the thin and lights always end up being much less upgradable to help make them thinner and lighter. also lets be honest, basically no one ever bothers to upgrade/ expand storage and ram.
Hey Dave, I just picked up an ASUS Vivobook Flip 14 TP412FA-OS31T. It runs an 8th gen i3, comes with 4gb RAM and 128gb SSD. I upped the ram in the first 15 min and it has been smooth as butter, lasting amazing 9-10 hours between charges. Touchscreen, great keyboard, trackpad and speakers. Great unit for school or office work.
Hey Dave, that inaudible music you're playing in the background of this video is too low to hear properly compared to your voice but loud enough to notice so it's kind of annoying.
it also annoyed me a bit but mainly because the music is on a playlist that I use while studying and hearing it again just brings back study vibes which I just don't need
My current laptop uses 3.8 GB of RAM when I boot into Windows before opening any applications. I simply couldn't live with only 4 GB of RAM these days! it's impossible! 8 gigabytes should be the minimum offer after 2019
Hey, great video as always, I just ordered the xps though, because hp hasn't released the new Spectre model in my country yet, aaand because the xps was 300 bucks less because of a deal. Hope you have a good day!
Yesss I'm dying to know which to buy and so sick of the old videos featuring previous versions. And yes I chose the Spectre, thanks for your encouragement!
Thanks for comparing the two laptops. It's probably one of the most detailed comparisons so between the two. I don't know if the Lenovo C940 is another direct competitor or is superior to these two since it's a Project Athena laptop. It would be nice to see a detailed review on it.
I have hp spectre x360 2018 model .. i did a lot of research on what is the best choice laptop for me. I use it most for taking notes, coding, and writing reports (the keyboard is awesome). I like this kind of laptops because they're light, very portable and you can charge them via USB C. Also, using usb hub is awesome to connect monitor, keyboard and mouse when you return home. I recommend this kind of laptops for any uni student.
@@sabrinathomas9241 no sorry, I decided to just wait because I know something cool and new will come out in the future that will fit my needs. Good luck in your search
Nice video 👌 but I feel like, for some reason, the HP Spectre X360s build quality is lacking. I've looked at the Spectre in person and it feels creaky and a bit cheap even though it looks amazing. Anyways, if you could do a video on the 2019 Lenovo C940 14" it would be a good competitor! I know your a busy guy and probably won't see this comment but it would really mean a lot if you could 😅😁😄. Thanks man!!!
These both start at around $900 USD right now
Which device do YOU like better??
cooool
Hey Dave could you please review the Acer Concept D? I've been curious ever since I saw it in your Laptops for Creators video
sure does
I like the HP more, the Dell looks sleeker but I prefer the cooler aesthetic of those angles in the HP's design. The soldered-on drive in the Dell is a dealbreaker for me. But the most important thing that makes the Hp take the cake is definitely the wallpaper! Can you link it? 😂
Based on the prices you showed in the video, the Dell isn't available for 900$. The cheapest is 1000$ with 4 GB, but most people would need to go even more expensive for the 8 GB.
"4GB on a $999 is being disrespectful to the consumer" - thank you for this Dave. I don't know why nobody else talk like this. Also, 128GB non-upgradeable SSD on any laptop is disrespectful.
"Disrespectable" is what he actually said lol.
And not even "non-upgradeable". Your entire SSD is also completely destroyed and all data is UNRECOVERABLE if any other major motherboard part fails (CPU, RAM, VRM). It's a whole lot of fucking trust and nobody, not Dell, not Apple, etc. is good enough to ask for that bulllllshit. Data should not be held hostage against consumers on consumer-level hardware.
how about surface? lol
There are $450 computers that have more ram (sodim slot upgradable), and swapable nvme ssd's. Lenovo flex 14, amd ryzen 3500U version.
The $450 lenovo flex with ryzen and vega graphics has 12gb of ram. How is this anywhere near acceptable in 2019?
Dave: "These aren't good for gaming"
Me: **Likes the video and leaves**
*Likes the video, leaves a comment, and leaves**
Seriously? If you look for gaming laptops why would you check out one that can be flipped over?
And especially some, with a weight of roughly 2kg? A laptop without weight is simply not for gaming
"Disrespectful to the consumer" oh man! You got that spot on!
He said “disrespectable,” though. He always mixes up the two.
I have a Louis Rossmann sticker from his store including that phrase from a ranting customer who apparently doesn't like labels on his MacBook that are almost impossible to remove. LOL
based on ur recommendation, i bought the HP Spectre x360 13, i7, 16g ram, 1tb drive, thank you
Are you satisfied with it? Which ultrabook you own before spectre? I am thinking to upgrade from my Surface Laptop (1st genetation)
Daniyal Najmi i have been using Dell XPS 13
Do you think it's overall good if not better than xps 13? Because you have own both. Which one do you prefer it better?
Daniyal Najmi i use both, both has different merits, i prefer xps screen, but spectre touchpad and keyboard
For how much?
The wife: There’s an interesting smell coming from the oven, what are you up to?
Me: Nothing...just baking a drive onto the motherboard
I tought you meant cause the hp was getting too hot haha
I love how straight up you Dave. A lot of people just shill for the companies but you tell it how it is. Great job!
Yet he makes no mention of the OLED screen on the spectre.
@@TheAgentAssassin his eyes is allergic to oled display
IKR?
And i mean his reviews are the, basically they are so calm. No shitty background music, no use of decorative language. He’s the best lol 😂
For anyone interested in these devices I would really recommend to go with HP Spectre. In 2017 I got one of these badboys. I got 13inch spectre with 8gb of ram and 260gb SSD. To this day I use it daily, battery life still holds up for about 6-9hours of light use. I do programming on it and its amazing. I love it and the next laptop I am going to buy will be HP. For touchscreen I would recommend it only for people who read alot because it is way easier to use it as a tablet when you study.
Is it good for designing softwares such as catia v5 or AutoCAD
@@amansingh4255 i have a lower version. Hp probook 440 g1 an AutoCAD was nice
does it have the hinge issues as people say?
@@tejas_rane no never had any issues at all! 3years.
I have the 2020 model, & love this thing. Not the most powerful laptop on the market, & Iris XE graphics don't stack up to a modern 3050Ti in some laptops, but the 4k OLED is too stunning to give up! I'm loving this laptop so much i'm about to upgrade the 1TB SSD to 2TB to future-proof it (I just wish the RAM could be upgraded too).
If anyone is considering buying the xps 15 2in1 (9575):
I am in medical school and i used the xps for every lecture in first year. I wrote down notes with the pen but after a time i just didn't like the feeling because of the high latency.
That's why i now just use it as a regular laptop for medical school.
In my free time i'm doing photography and graphic design, that's why i chose the 15" model (for the better performance).
I actually would not recommend this 2in1 device...it's good to have the opportunity to use this laptop as a tablet, but in practice, you will be probably just using it as a regular laptop. I would rather recommend buying the regular 15"/13" model and saving up the money for something else🤷🏻♂️
It's like something you crave for the first time and then realize it's not worth enough.
I'm a Doctor and all i do on laptop are reading some PDFs or making a presentation, rest are entertainment. For study purpose, i should get an iPad.
It's better to get a surface pro or a cheaper laptop + iPad with apple pencil
Min Gyu I wouldn't agree about pen, overall pen experience is not that good but you should understand what it's for. Even a good pen with touchscreen will unlikely replace you a Wacom drawing tablet, but it's enough for prototyping (maybe it's because I've played with pen modes but I can't see much delay, it's just feels non precise and uncomfortable). It's definitely not for daily notes I think, more for some digital drawing mockups as I see. Something that XPS 2-in-1 buyers should be aware of is that Dell's software is a complete piece of garbage. Pen settings is worst app ever existed, default power settings are so bad that you won't be able to watch a video normally, it cannot go modern sleep and it's lid just can't wake it up which is so annoying considering you need to waste half a minute to wake it up. Not great, not terrible, I would think of Surface laptop better for pro use and iPad for notes.
This and comments and it’s replies are exactly what I needed to hear. I’m going into medical school and I want something to write my notes in and was trying to figure out what to get
I'm not sure what you mean! I've been using active pens since surface pro 2 and currently use the XPS 13 2 in 1 . It works great for now taking. I'm mostly using one note or pdf readers.
It is great for meeting notes and jotting down ideas. Instant one note sync ensures that I never loose thoughts.
I made an expensive mistake by buying the Dell XPS 2-in-1. I would dearly love to send it back, but it’s too late. I have the HP Spectre X360 on order. Your review captures most of the downside I experienced with the Dell. One difference - I got the 4K display. My new Spectre will have the FHD display. I haven’t been able to get used to the MagLev keyboard. It is difficult to use for any period of time because of the extra force you have to use to press keys. My typing error rate is much higher. The 4K screen is pretty, but it sucks the battery. To get 4-hour battery life, you have to turn the brightness way down. I can’t live with 4 hours of battery life.
The lack of a USB-A port means that almost everything you plug in has to be done via a dongle or an adapter. There are two devices I use regularly that don’t come in USB-C variants: Logitech Unifying Receiver for my mouse and the receiver for my headset. Yes, I know I could use Bluetooth but it doesn’t work as well as the native plug-ins for these two frequently used devices. I have to use an adapter which means they stick out very far. I hate that.
I travel frequently. I have a backpack for all the things you need when you travel. Not sure how much it weights fully loaded. Here is my point: Dell wanted to make the thinnest laptop in this category. It shaved off a couple of millimeters to achieve this spec. In the process it had to have a terrible keyboard and smaller battery. But practically speaking, if you did a blind A/B test with my backpack loaded with the Dell + adapter vs. HP + adapter, I doubt that there would be a noticeable difference. WHen you actually use either device, the difference is huge: worse typing experience and worst battery life. Yes, I know - blame the 4K for much of that.
What I worry about the HP is similar: They shaved down the formerly thick bezels and have created a stumpy-size laptop. Will it have enough room to rest my palms? It has a much smaller trackpad. HP would have been wise to increase the vertical size of the display the way Dell did and give a little extra room for palm rest, trackpad size, and a little bigger battery. But that would increase the size and weight which the marketing department wouldn’t like. Again, I suggest using the loaded backpack test as a reference point - a couple of extra millimeters, inches, and ounces to enhance usability is a trade off that will have no practical impact on true mobility.
I’m hoping the HP will make me forget about the expensive mistake I made. I’m also hoping that in a couple of years one or both of these companies will prioritize laptop user experience over specs and will aspire to “greatest laptop”, not “thinnest” or “smallest”.
How do you like the HP now?
SheTimpsons LOL. The new Dell XPS 13 came out and it fixed everything that bugged me about the Dell XPS 2-in-1. So I canceled the HP order. I had to pay a restocking fee. Then I sobered up (so to speak) and decided to make peace with my 2-in-1 and not waste my money. I’ll upgrade a year or two from now when the specs are really worth it.
@@emmgeevideo I see, thanks!
@@emmgeevideo The HP has a 3:2 screen model now.
Just here to remind you all that he's standing
No way
He's not.
I can see it
Also the table is actually the floor, and his hoodie is actually a cloak.
@@ralphkleinguevarra he is, there's a video where he explains it
For anyone thinking of the HP spectre, I just recently purchased one and it’s great. He didn’t touch on this in the video so I just want to say that the HP gets pretty hot when using it, it does cool itself down but only after a certain temperature is reached and at that point the fans become loud. Don’t let this throw you away from buying the laptop tho it’s still great!
Do the fans get loud if you're only watching TH-cam videos on it? I'm wondering how much of a load needs to be on the CPU before this happens
@@davidkoziar1811 I am running file explorer, PowerPoint, google chrome with a few tabs open, and usually a PDF editor when the fans turn on. Generally if I lift the laptop up from the desk for a minute the fans go off but they do get pretty loud. I would recommend a laptop cooler, that should help with airflow.
@@michaelbotelho51 Thanks. Ugh. I am struggling on the right 2 in 1 to get. I love the aesthetics of the Spectre but I also love the better specs of the Lenevo 740c at the same price point
One of the configs of this Late 2019 Spectre x360 is with a 4K OLED screen, so I'd say the advantage in this department actually goes to the Spectre. Beautiful review though!
Thing is most people won't get a 4k display
Still has the shorter screen though no?
I would personally say that color accuracy is more important than OLED.
For many 4K is overkill on a 13-inch laptop and a battery killjoy. OLED is not really good for office stuff as the white backgrounds run the battery down much quicker. I do not get OLED on a work device that is not 45-watt. Paying extra for no benefit other than blacker blacks does not do it for me. It is not compulsory so I suppose my point is irreverent, just saying.
If they could ditch the fucking 4k 16:9 for a 3000:2000 display it would be so much better. first of 16:9 actually isnt that good of a ratio for small devices if you want to get stuff done other than watching videos. And most of the time you just get FHD or 4K. FHD looks dated even on a 13", you can clearly see pixels, especially looking at text. But 4K feels kind of over the top. I mean I like the resolution, but the impact on battery life in combination with intels dogshit UHD graphics often fail to impress. Responsetimes and framerate are often just sluggish. A 3:2 Screen would make so much more sense. More practical Screenspace, fewer Pixels for less battery drain and gpu demand and still a sharp image. But i guess a 3:2 screen is way more expensive to buy for them so thats that.
p.s. i have a Spectre x360 from 2017 with a 4k screen so i know what im talking about.
1:20 and just like that, D2D just debunked millions of dollars in Intel's marketing investment... He did the same with Apple and the i9 fiasco. Soft spoken people are the most dangerous people 😂😂😂
that last line ! i subscribed you ,you got some knowledge buddy
I love how upfront he is.
Would love to know your thoughts on the Lenovo C940 - I believe this is another direct competitor with these two.
Nathan Ferguson same! Hope he can do a video on it
15" version looks like way more powerful :/
Same here I'd like to hear Dave's opinions on the c940. it has a 4K 500 knit display and I'd like to hear his thoughts on how that compares to these two.
@@timcook8999 Thanks for sharing! Mine's in the mail and I can't wait.
@@timcook8999 if weight matters, I agree totally. But you can't have everything, it is power or lightness :'(
Nobody:
Dave: so let me tell you about my favourite tech, of 2019.
*whips out a flamethrower*
*whips out not a flamethrower
I was literally searching for your review of this product 20 minutes ago. Hallelujah.
the (no-boring-)intro style of these videos is amazing. honestly, some of the other youtubers out there think they're 20th century fox or something.
keep up the good work.
Lmaoooo too accurate about the other youtubers
It's time to STOP
With all these 4gb laptops.
im looking at you lenovo...
I simply wouldn't buy one 🤷♂️
General consumers don't need more than 4gb. They're using it for basic home usage like email or TH-cam.
@@IDiggPattyMayonnaise yes, but then again most people shouldn't be spending this much for such a device. Most laymen would purchase a cheaper laptop to do the same job. No one would spend $1k just to browse emails and write on word.
RAM is so damn cheap these days that it makes zero fucking sense, 2 sticks of 8gb RAM for a CONSUMER is less than eighty bucks, they have no excuse since when buying in bulk they would get severe discounts.
"its disrespectful"
Dave 2019
Esho Abraham laptop’s ultimate disrespec vs ‘sumer
@@RennieAsh
As you get older your eyes change, significant amounts of reading or using computers (mobile too) strain your eye muscles.
A small prescription just reduces eye strain, which is potentially what the headache is from...
Spending time doing eye exercises and more time outside viewing close/far, etc will help
Literally an hour ago I was looking for your review on the spectre and was sad you didn't have one. What a great notification to get an hour later lol
Just wanna thank you for waiting with the review! Good job! Having a fair comparison is vital.
When I saw "Extra Thicc"
That was an instant Like 👍
sem
Dave : xps have better screen
Hp Spectre : Dude try my OLED screen
He's said that he's sensitive to OLED screens.
TeaNCoffee Not all people are though, I’m not, so I would prefer the OLED Spectre over the XPS
@@cameronbosch1213 I was explaining why Dave prefers non-oled screens.
And now the Spectre has a model with a 3:2 screen, the 2020 Dell XPS 2 in 1 is doa.
I'd never own a Dell again after their incompetence dealing with the XPS 15's thermal issues and horrible BIOS updates that did things like nerf the GPU to such a low temperature limit it was worthless. Haven't had an HP in years, but it looks nice.
C A I was there when ThrottleStop was being written with the now-ancient XPS 16. Dell intentionally pushes their CPUs to overheating / power limits for benchmarks and we knew it. If they had set the limits slightly lower with better cooling, they would've had much better sustained performance.
After that experience in 2009-10, I've never bought another high-end Dell. The Inspiron stuff ain't half bad, though.
The wallpaper he used on the dell laptop on the left at 5:22 is from the final scene in the last episode of Samurai Jack Season 5. Great choice Dave!
This is the comment I've been looking for
anybody have the link
@@isthatyousri just google it "Samurai Jack wallpapers"
Anyone found the one on the right?
@@isthatyousri imgur.com/a/9feODKE
Apparently, Dave knows beforehand what laptops are gonna launch...
Seems like he talks to MKBHD a lot...
Dave is a very good and respectable tech reviewer who has over 2.5 mil subscribers, so he'll get info on which laptops are coming out.
I'm gonna keep it at 69 likes. Sorry
Why should he talks to mkbhd slot? Are you implying Dave is inferior in terms of knowledge... Whoa
Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon r/woooosh
@@anujkumaryadav7248 why people keeps misusing such simple r/whoosh is beyond me. 🤷♂️
Dave , Your wallpaper selection is straight up amazing. If you could link those wallpapers, it would be great.
No mention of hp OLED screen :(
Nice comparison. One thing which has been grinding me in general (not just here) is the focus on a 'powerful device' being synonymous with video editing or gaming. For those of us who need a good, fast CPU and lots of memory for data crunching/analysis where no GPU acceleration is possible, the graphical capabilities are somewhat irrelevant. It would be nice to see how these kind of devices perform in these kinds of tasks too.
Really interested in your experience with HP's quality control since you have reviewed a few of their laptops. My experience with their quality control has been horrible but that could just be an outlier.
Yeah same
Yes - my Spectre 13 (2019 OLED edition) has a slightly loose trackpad, other users have complained of creaks and pops from the chassis. It also has pretty poor thermals, but this probably applies to most thin and lights.
My 2018 x360 15in has been sent in 3 times in one year to have 4 separate components replaced on it.
@@rossdev I had that trackpad issue with the envy x360 o bought, had to send it back, it's a real shame as it was perfect otherwise, nice design, good ports, mx250, plus the glorious speakers, I honestly think it's a great laptop but man the number of people with the same problem is just insane
It also could just be that you're not a tech-reviewing TH-camr with 2.5+ million subs. 🤔 Quinn from SnazzyLabs had the sort of Apple CS experience that the rest of us should be used to and resigned to, and they resolved the issue by giving him a new iMac Pro.
No one:
Absolutely no one:
Dell: oh yeah so we're gonna put a 4gb of ram in almost 2020 laptop, it seems like a great idea!
This format is still going on ..
my country's website only has 8gb ram variants only.....
@@ethanmarcus1048 uh everybody had a ram with 8gb. What up?
@@ethanmarcus1048 my mom's laptop from 4 - 5 years ago has 16gb what is your point
Decoy effect, in your head you started buying at 999 but end up buying at 1279
4 GB of RAM? Even my phone has more RAM than that!
My phone has 4, and runs smoothly. Why do you need so much ram?!
The Metropolis are you referring to why laptops need more RAM than 4gb or phones?
I have 12gb ram
@@LagLords-q1d congrats
You are the best tech reviewer on TH-cam. Honestly such well rounded reviews without any apparent bias , very hard to find.
4:07
$300 for 4 gb of ram. Probably the most expensive ram ever made lol
there's the processor difference too
You’re not mentioning that the Dell’s screen has a 16:10 ratio! Other reviewers also say that the Dell has a much lower reflectivity. I would have loved to have your view on this as well.
He mentioned dell has better aspect ratio
He said, Dell has better aspect ratio.
At this point, Dave doesn't make the most detailed reviewed out there because of duration. He covers point which other generic reviews won't.
The screen is very prone to scratching tho
He also didn't talk about the SPECTRE having an "OLED" option.
What about the Yoga 940? It seems to be pretty good as well.
Jannis 42 I ordered it last week and I’m picking it up today, super excited!!
yoga is amazing
I think you're going to enjoy it very much. I have an older generation of the Spectre (8th Gen Kaby Lake-R) and my brother has the c930 (Last gen) and I can tell you just build quality alone, the Lenovo is noticably sturdier (the HP feels a bit more hollow) but the typing is very good on both. c930 has better speakers but the Spectre has the better display. Granted these are from the previous generation so if you buy a newer model I don't think you can go wrong with either Spectre or Yoga c930, most of it comes down to aesthetic preference with the Lenovo looking more of a simpler and cleaner laptop.
@@andynguyen3382 I ordered the C940 (14 inch) one with 10th gen i7 with 16gb DDR4X 3733mhz and the 1080p display because I am a student and I value the battery life more. I JUST picked it up 30 minutes ago and SUPER EXCITED TO UNBOX IT!!!
@@johnliu6855 how do you like it so far? I'm still choosing btwn the specter and the c940
Great detailed comparison, thanks Dave!
Dave, can you review Edward Snowden's laptop?
There is no such thing like that.
To be honest Dave go in depth in hardware, he would have to review the PureOS. librem is weaker in every aspect, the focus is totally different, more in not be traced than in performace. If anyone wants to the OS is free and works well on most laptops, I recommend it.
Hey Dave great video, and am looking at getting one of the spectres myself!
Just wanted to let you know, there is a little mistake at 1:26. The processor in the Spectre is a 1065G7 as it has Iris plus Graphics. The 10710u is a 6 core CPU with 620 graphics.
Omg why aren't you answering my calls Dave. The child needs his father.
Haha
superman's dad?
YameruSenpai that's not superman.... he's clearly wearing glasses..
@@TheOfficialWoover Lol cant believe people still think clark kent is superman in 2019
Anonymous Koala omg yes, my bad..... who could it be.... but totally supe’s without the glasses...
Where were you two weeks ago I lost sleep looking for the perfect 2 in 1. But I am happy to hear you of all people say that I chose right. Loving the x360 from day one. And side note I can do light gaming mostly blizzard games.
How do you like it so far? I'm still choosing btwn the spectre and the yoga c940
Shiver Bliss I have no complaints when it comes to speed or performance. It meets all my needs perfectly. Battery life is surprisingly good, and when I need to travel with it I don't notice it all. Very easy to grab and go. It looks great and feels solid, and most importantly for me the keyboard is comfortable to type on for extended periods of time. I don't regret it at all.
The spectre is beautiful but I don't trust HP's quality control
I have never had good experience with them either, Dell and Lenovo have my heart for consumer ultrabooks
they have no quality today so there is nothing to check
Especially their keyboards! At University i always seet HP machines with broken Keyboards and other problems. They just feel cheap(even the one in the video). Even Acer manages to have better Quality with budget Laptops
@@rainingman338 batteries were always a problem for me, and it was always 2-4week fix
I had an HP Elite book , it was made out of one piece of aluminum. It was solid as a brick.
Awesome little laptop. It was only 12inches wide , touch screen. Had thunderbolt 3 ,Ethernet,HDMI,SD card sd slot reader
Congratulations Dave for hitting 3M subscribers😁
“But the HP has this really cool USB A port, I’ve never seen anything like this”
And I thought he was going to be sarcastic and rip on the whole industry but here it was being innovative 😂
my mom's 800 dollar asus laptop from 2014 hat that exact same design for the LAN port, no innovation here
Happy to see the Spectre still rockin it. I've had mine for 2 years now and I love it.
Everybody is always talking about Dell's XPS, meanwhile I got the Dell Inspiron 14 2in1 with a 10th gen core i7, 16gb ram and 512gb ssd for €950. really underrated!!
Cyprian Joye I paid nearly same for the Spectre x360 in the video with those exact same specs (when converted; US $1130) .... Dell is just overpriced sometimes (4 GB for $999 was a dead giveaway) and they should be shamed when their competitors are doing way way way better.
Are you using a docking station with it and/or a pen? if yes, which one?
@@RolZuela I don't use a docking station and I bought the dell active pen (PN350M)
I loved your bits on MKBHD and Supersaf's channels. I love how you're so serious on your own channel, but there you went full madman. You're amazing, much love.
I ordered the XPS to replace my Surface Pro 4 for college, mostly based on the design, can't say I'm a huge fan out the HP's angles and such, but hey I suppose thats just subjective
Same. Idk why, but I hate everything about hp design language
Yo how does the Pencil work related to latency? Need it for collage too
Yes! Perhaps now the Microsoft Surface Pro prices will begin to drop now that other companies are jumping on Tablet PC's. Would love to see huge improvements in the tablet department.
Hey Dave how would you consider these against Surface Pro? I thought Surface Pro would always be in the show when it comes to any 2 in 1 debate. Did you just want to compare these two or do you think these are significantly better than Surface Pro that you wouldn't even bother discussing it together?
Namwoo Cho it costs 2-3 times as much. Why would he?
As a reviewer, it’s good that Dave included a little bit about the speakers, but I think not many people nowadays still put a laptop speaker in consideration. I see ppl always use headphone in almost all occasion even when they’re at home.
You're legit the best tech reviewer dude my bro homie man I could ask for FOR REAL bc I was waiting for someone to do these two devices and here you are to save the day
Appreciated! Usueful comparaison. Thank you.
You forgot to mention that HP Spectre can be bought with OLED display.
Yeah when he said the Dell's screen was better I was like brah WTF man not even a mention of the OLED option which I have and it's fucking gorgeous.
Love it. Straight to the point and a real recommendation.
Can we get a review of the 2020 edition of the Spectre 15? There's barely any for that specific model.
I love your review overall but I would love to have seen reviews and comments when you use the pen since it is appealing for students
please review the HP Spectre 14 and compare it to the Spectre 13
I've seen two other well-known reviewers this week say that they're now using the XPS as their main laptop, so I was stunned when you recommended the HP. I'm not in the market for a 2-in-1 but I just enjoy the way you break things down in such a straightforward way.
Nikka M Did you watch the beginning of the video? It's a huge Dell marketing stunt. The x360 just won Editors' Choice at CNET, Laptop Mag, and PC World all within the past 6 days. 80% of TH-cam reviewers are bootlickers and Dell knew that 🙃
4GBs of RAM? Windows uses around 3GB at start up. You can't open chrome or it will start paginating like crazy!
Great review. Concise and to the point.
always love HP and have always used HP while typing this on HP! :)
I love how upfront and bold you are. Thanks for being honest!
I am having such a hard time deciding between these 2. I was bothered by the soldered everything on the XPS but then I realized ... so are macbooks, etc.
Doesn't mean that's a good thing though, once something goes on the motherboard, so does your unbacked up data.
@@cameronbosch1213 totally agree but it seems acceptable and a practice that has been working for a while apparently.
I got the Dell and I couldn’t be happier. They ONLY problem has been the finger print sensor but other than that, it’s the perfect ultraportable!
Yoga X1 is great hybrid laptop
Im currently looking for a 2-1 and came across this interesting unit called "eve spectre". You seem to give honest reviews and your opinion on this is appreciated. Thanks
"Extra T H I C C" 👀
I see dave is a man of cultuer too
Let's not forget Dave burned a snowman alive using his flame thrower.. at 6:25
You didn't compare display features 🤦♂️ I think hp does have OLED display right 🤔 while dell no idea 🤷♂️
Merry Christmas 🎄
I have the gem cut early 2019 and the updated one literally fixes all the minor gripes I have with it.
Just to add, I wanted a 2 in 1 because I can use it as the medium for my digital reference material without moving my head up and down like a usual monitor. I can now look down left and right as if I was reading a traditional book
6:52 samurai jack back ground on the laptop XD, loved the series not sure if you saw it or if you just liked the background definitely recommend it.
@@GemuMat116 i don't but i know it is from the series samurai jack wait imma search it up.
@@GemuMat116 Pinterest
Samurai Jack (Samurai Jack season 5 spoilers) [5120x2880] in 2019 ... Idk if it works as a link maybe
@@GemuMat116 oof it didn't well type in google samurai Jack season 5 ending wallpaper and you will find the picture.
"What type of girls do you like"
Me: 3:07
I had the 2017 version of the HP Spectre, and I really loved it. But I had to change to a new laptop as fast as I can, and the only new option available was the Dell XPS 2 in 1 2019 4k version. It was expensive.The laptop overall is good. The battery life is average to kinda and for some reason I'm having Bluetooth connectivity issues and it's a common problem among Dell products. But it's a great laptop with great design (better than spectre in my opinion). Although I miss having an USB A port in my laptop and I still prefer the spectres keyboard.
I feel like Dell always makes "good for the budget" products whereas HP actually makes pretty decent products that are upgradable.
nah, im watching this on an xps 15 with more upgradability than the specter he has there. the thin and lights always end up being much less upgradable to help make them thinner and lighter. also lets be honest, basically no one ever bothers to upgrade/ expand storage and ram.
Straight forward review love it dude thank you ... simple and easy....
I haven't seen a usb port with a flip shield since the first macbook air.
Hey Dave, I just picked up an ASUS Vivobook Flip 14 TP412FA-OS31T. It runs an 8th gen i3, comes with 4gb RAM and 128gb SSD. I upped the ram in the first 15 min and it has been smooth as butter, lasting amazing 9-10 hours between charges. Touchscreen, great keyboard, trackpad and speakers. Great unit for school or office work.
Hey Dave, that inaudible music you're playing in the background of this video is too low to hear properly compared to your voice but loud enough to notice so it's kind of annoying.
it also annoyed me a bit but mainly because the music is on a playlist that I use while studying and hearing it again just brings back study vibes which I just don't need
those wallpapers 😍5:27
My current laptop uses 3.8 GB of RAM when I boot into Windows before opening any applications. I simply couldn't live with only 4 GB of RAM these days! it's impossible! 8 gigabytes should be the minimum offer after 2019
Can you next time also compare screen reflection? It's something a lot of reviewers leave out. :/
5:57 i have the same wallpaper. Sadly the only thing that is common between dave's setup and mine.
Where can I get that wallpaper?
can you link the wallpaper
Hey, great video as always, I just ordered the xps though, because hp hasn't released the new Spectre model in my country yet, aaand because the xps was 300 bucks less because of a deal.
Hope you have a good day!
You didnt talk about the OLED on the spectre
thank Dave for the review . just picked the hp 8gb/512gb at bestbuy for 800$. im now happy with the purchased.
spectre has an option for OLED screen, XPS does not.
Yesss I'm dying to know which to buy and so sick of the old videos featuring previous versions. And yes I chose the Spectre, thanks for your encouragement!
He should start putting wallpaper link's below! I really like that skull wallpaper! Does anyone have link?
Looking for the same
Thanks for comparing the two laptops. It's probably one of the most detailed comparisons so between the two. I don't know if the Lenovo C940 is another direct competitor or is superior to these two since it's a Project Athena laptop. It would be nice to see a detailed review on it.
"No more."
- Dave 2019
Why hp not put geforce 250mx in this stuf, the perfomance is lack and get hot, while i have envy 13 is cool
"THICC" - Dave2D, the first thing he wrote on his new laptop
No, it was extra and the thicc
I have hp spectre x360 2018 model .. i did a lot of research on what is the best choice laptop for me. I use it most for taking notes, coding, and writing reports (the keyboard is awesome). I like this kind of laptops because they're light, very portable and you can charge them via USB C. Also, using usb hub is awesome to connect monitor, keyboard and mouse when you return home. I recommend this kind of laptops for any uni student.
Me: okay he’s going to pick it up
Dave: *takes apart the laptop*
finally a review that compares these two, thanks!
I need some help, I'm trying to find the best laptop to animate with but also want a decent gpu. Any recommendations?
Hey. I'm also in the same boat. Did you eventually get a laptop to animate with? If yes, what did you choose?
@@sabrinathomas9241 no sorry, I decided to just wait because I know something cool and new will come out in the future that will fit my needs. Good luck in your search
@@osman2674 Awww. Okay. Thanks
Nice video 👌 but I feel like, for some reason, the HP Spectre X360s build quality is lacking. I've looked at the Spectre in person and it feels creaky and a bit cheap even though it looks amazing. Anyways, if you could do a video on the 2019 Lenovo C940 14" it would be a good competitor! I know your a busy guy and probably won't see this comment but it would really mean a lot if you could 😅😁😄. Thanks man!!!