HOW TO Convert MTB to MONSTERCROSS Bike with SHIMANO ALIVIO and SENSAH IGNITE 2x9 Setup
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- How to Convert MTB to MONSTERCROSS Bike with SHIMANO ALIVIO and SENSAH IGNITE 2x9
Hello Viewers! Today we're going to upgrade my personal Mountain Bike and turn it into something more like a hybrid gravel or to be more specific, its what they call a Monster Cross Bike. It's a sweet middle ground between a cyclocross bike and a 29'er that makes it the best all around bike one can build!
To give you a little introduction about this bike, This is the FOXTER Vinson 6.2+ which I bought from LJ Bike Shop last December 2019. It has a 2x9 Alivio setup which I'm sure can fit to a Sensah Ignite Shifter mechanism. I hope you enjoy! Ride Safe and Stay Safe from COVID19!
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Ask lang sir cogs, naka RD altus 11-40T pwede ba e pair sa alivio 2x crank and sensah sti?
Lods gusto ko sanang magkaroon ng idea about advantage and disadvantage of converting mtb to gravel
@@a.jpaule2854 skl. Ang pros sa akin ng converting is hand position/s, extra nalang yung looks kasi ang ganda talaga. Ang cons naman sa akin e yung hydraulic brake mawawa dahil walang budget pang hydraulic sti 😢😅
Nice ride! I did the same thing with my 2010 Scott Scale 29er hardtail.
-Stand Crest ZTR wheels with Vitorria Mezcal tires with Stans sealant.
-Salsa cow chipper drop bars
-Shimano 105 shifter coupled to a Tan Pan to keep shift ratios to an XT derailleur coupled to an 11x52 cluster and a single Wolf tooth 32 upfront.
-The front brake is a hydraulic TRP brake to compliment the hydraulic 105 shifter/brake.
-I replaced the Reba fork with a Surley Krampus.
I ride this more than my road bike and mountain bike combined as it is so versatile.
Keep riding
Hi! hello. I have a Scott scale 2022 and I want to do the same. Did the geometry of the bike change a lot with the dropped handlebars? did you use a shorter stem to compensate for the longer top tube on the mtb?
great conversion! I also converted my Giant ATX1 model to monstercross 1x9 set-up, I used Sagmit Concept shifters and Ltwoo A5 rd and I had to customize the shifter housing and install a barrel adjuster coz the rd doesn't have one... but overall, it's a great experience to convert one rather than buying another.
True! with bike parts being expensive today, it's better to experiment with cheap parts :)
How po?
how about on ltwoo a7 rd?
Finally...may sumubok na din. Ive been wanting to try this out and yes at 9 speed road shifters ng shimano also can be cross compatible to MTB RD.10 speed pataas hindi na pwede. As per brakes tama din yug kinabit mo since cable pull ratio ng RD bike shifter will work out fine sa cable actuated hyro brakes. Great content keep it up!
Yes sir tama 10 speed hindi na pwede MTB to RB, iba na cable pull ratio, unless mag 10 speed groupset ka talaga pang RB :)
The exact VIDEO I WANT can’t wait to make this build with my FOXTER LINCOLN.. 🥰🥰
Go for it brother!
Ang dami ko talaga natututunan sa mga build nio sir. keep the contents coming and more power to your channel.
Will do! Maraming salamat! 😊
I was too busy thinking about the Sensah SRX Pro then I realized, I would only need the shifters that can work with Acera.
I realized, I don't need 11 speeds, 9 speeds are god enough.
Thank you for this video, I now know what I must do to complete my dream setup. Thanks!
Yes, the shifters is the key of Monstercross... all RD's are compatible with shifters as long as you are using the number of its speed.
You blend it well like background music,skills and beautiful build bike.
Thank you very much!
@@CoggieBike compatible po ba ung ltwoo a3 rd and fb sa sensah reflex shifter? thx!
@@val-cc1ry secret
Finally a detailed monstercross build. Been hooked up with monster cross for 2 years and all I can say is this is legit comfortable bike to ride with especially with flared drop bar. Gravel bike is getting more trendy now, Hope I can see more montercross user when they'll see this video as reference. By the way nice set up sir. Just a quick question sir, Does the sagmit cx pro drop bar has smaller size? Wanted to try one.
Thank you so much! I believe there's no smaller size for sagmit drop bar, but there are other brands on the online market with the same length as the RB but with a gravel type design :)
Being tired finding 450 or 440 that will be a perfect fit for me since I have a shorter arms so sad hehehe
Currently using the marin four corner's stock flared drop with size 500 still bigger with my size hehehe small person problem
Ritchey Venturemax alam ko may 38cm cla
BR-R517 or BR-R317 have the matching cable pull for recent Shimano road brake levers. The Micronew 2x9 are more robust and follow there own actuation sheme. ST-RS405 with RD-4700 is the hydraulic alternative. Hydraulics do not suffer from the cable pull incompatibilty.
The cable pulls are different for FD 2x and 3x between MTB and Road, and above 9x RD only Road is compatible within 10x/11x.
The FD issue with the shifter is because of the MTB FD. But this FD is made for 50mm chainline. Road FDs are at 43.5mm, then you have to install a road FC which is 30T min. So you see many issues with Road/MTB mix. Going over 40T for the RD with 2x is the next issue. There is no RD with road cable pulls. You have to use cable pull adapters and use a RD-M8000 and ST-R505 to match the rear gear cable pull. FD-RX400 is perfect for 2x but it need a FC-MT210 where you swap the 2.5mm spacers of the bottom bracket to go from 50mm to 47.5mm. The FD-RX400 is for 46.5mm. This is the only 2x11 setup i have seen working for a hydraulic 46/30-11/42 monstercross.
For non-hydraulic i would prefer a 44/32/22-11/36 with 3x9 Micronew but you need a FD cable pull adjuster but none for the rear.
That's a lot of information to digest! I'm very much pleased! Thank you for this! 😊
@@CoggieBike I love to built bikes by myself and love to see others building. Socialization of bike tec is one stone to save our planet. Your country is on target with 1.33tCO2 and have to find ways to prosper on this level where my country have to find ways to come down from 8.4tCO2 w/o uproars, not speaking about +16tCO2 countries.
Where do you live if I may ask? And yeah you're definitely right! Riding our bikes will save our planet :)
@@CoggieBike I am from germany. Sensah found the niche solution to monstercross builders. The RD was on the market for about 9 month. The RD have 4700/5800 road compatible cable pull, goes above 50T on the rear:
bikerumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/S-Ride-M520-1x11_budget-Chinese-single-ring-11-speed-gravel-bike-drivetrain.jpg
I do not know why it is sold out since 01/2021. For non-hydraulic there are many alternative 10x/11x STi and even 12x which would match to the M520c.
ok but,watching this drinking coffee sa rainy morning is a vibe❤️the satisfaction and aesthetic bg music100%
It's raining right now and I'm drinking coffee... So perfect! 😌
Ive been wanting to this conversion to my 2012 Specialized Hardrock since last year. Your bike looks amazing!
Go for it! 🥰
Nice! I'm using zoom hb100 din for almost 10 months na. Ganda ng performance. Never ko pa na bleed.
Thank you sa experience bro! 😊
9:30 Nice to know, dude, that this 9-speed Sensah Ignite roadie RD shifter + Alivio MTB RD + that humongous MTB cassette mix-and-match are all 100% compatible. The same goes with the front chainring set-up.
Hello, to be honest with you, I replace the cassette and reduce it from 42t to 36t coz 42t is a little bit overkill for 2x setup. Anyways I'm so glad you like it Jose :)
Do you think XT rd 10s will be compatible with tiagra sti or sensah sti?
@@CoggieBike May I know how many teeth is in your 2x chainring?
Aaaah, satisfying gravel bike build❤️
Glad you like it!
Nice... Ganto yung gusto ko gawin sa mtb ko eh pero balak ko naka suspension fork parin.. parang gravel set-up.... Gandang set-up
Nice one sir, balitaan nio po ako sa sa experience nio po... Maraming salamat po!
Great video, great backsound, and great bike, perfect 👍🏻
Thank you brother!
Ibang iba ung pag ka video nya, hindi pang pinoy quality HAHAHA keep it up po!
Maraming salamat idol!
Great job. That was fun to watch and turned out beautiful!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I'm thinking doing this setup to my bike for a long time. Can you please review this after a month and give your final verdict, so I/we will know how it feels and works, also the pros and cons. Thank you.
Sure! I'll try! 😊
Few things i noticed, since you upgraded your forks to rigid one, you should've used sealed bearings on it. It might be pricey, but it will end up cheaper in the long run
Second, You should not cut the bar tape under the STI cover, it shoud be wrapped underneath it and then cut and tape it on the hood. That way, it would be more durable.
But over all, i like your build. I might upgrade mine like this soon.
Thanks for the tips!
@@CoggieBike welcome sir.
Lupet ng bike mo na yan sir. Pang lahatan na yan. More power idol master.
More power din po idol!
ayos..planning on making my vitus nucleus vrs 27.5 a monster gravel bike also im just waiting for funds..lol..but yours is a beast man..safe riding
Maraming salamat lucky pinoy!
Ganda po ang naka paganda sa content mo idol ay ang music sobrang chill keep safe kuya..💛💛
Maraming salamat po!
Try to replace your rigid fork with a 27.5 rigid fork for better handling and lower stack height and shorter wheel base for better comfort. Aerodynamic monster cross.
This MTB frame is not designed to have lowered fork, and besides MTB rigid forks needs to have huge space against the wheels to provide proper frame geometry against the surface.
So cool to see you do these Sensah/Shimano upgrades. Please keep them coming.
Yes, cause STI nowadays aren't cheap!
WTF GANITO YUNG SET UP NA GUSTO KO NICE BUILD BOSS
Go bro! Setup na! 😁
Very nice video sir tagal ko tung hinanap nandito ka lang pala hahaha ngayon alam ko na na 100% compatible si alivio kay sensah ignite 😊 tuloy ko na to na upgrade. Btw sir walang goat link ginamit jan? At ilang teeth yung cogs mo? New subscriber heeere
Maraming salamat po sir!
9:55
Just to share po, ang term sa 3-4 times na pag-click sa fd para mailipat sa next cog ay "Trimming". Ginawa ito para magcompensate ang width na magagawa ng shifting sa RD sa width na meron ang space ng FD. Intended ang function na ito sa Road Bike.
Salamat sa idea sir...
It looks freaking handsome. Thx for the idea man
My pleasure darling...
@@CoggieBike "it" not "he" xD
Panalo na to sir.. ride safe na lang lagi..
Salamat sir! Ride safe din po!
i think my next build will be like yours but ill be using a Schwinn Axum. Great vid. Love the forks.
Glad you like it!
Vinson 6.2 user din here. Lupet
Salamat sir!
Nice build bro
Glad you like it
cable actuated hydralic brakes are really pretty good - will they be as good as GRX full hydro - no - but pretty damn close - and for the money - that's not bad at all.
Bike build asmr...🔥
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I love always the coggie bike music vibes ❤️
I have built one myself. Drop bars but with 1x gripshift.
Yup! Doesn't matter if 1x or 2x, the soul of a monster still there :)
Napa subscribe ako bigla. Ang angas nyan lods. Ride safe👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿 new subscriber here from Qatar 🇶🇦
Thank you lods! 😁
This complex conversion is no longer necessary. Surly drop bar conversion reuse your MTB components. Simple without grief.
The kanto bar isn't for everyone
Kantobar is function over form, but it looks horrible.
Mtb 3x9 derailleurs and road 3x9 brifters are compatible anyway.
But for aesthetic this is better
@@cosinus_square yeah the looks are not that cool
Bar end shifters
Ok set up mo boss.. Gusto ko din gawin ganyan ang mtb ko...
Salamat sir! Pag may tanong lang kau about sa setup chat lang kau sa facebook.com/coggiebike
That bar tape is so cool
Andito nanaman po ako HEHEHE
Salamat sa suporta idol! 😊
Bka kelangan mo mgpalit ng mas maiksi na stem. Mahaba kse ang toptube ng mtb compared sa rb or gravel bike frame. Bka masyado unat pg ngbabike ka. Yan ang madalas na problema pg ngcoconvert ng modern mtb frame into a gravel bike. Masyadong malayo yng reach. And ok din yng xtech brakes. Nagamit namin sa mtb yan na pinapanglaro sa trail wala nmn problema. Mas mgnda p nga kse minsan pg uminit n yng preno kumukulo yng fluid sa loob ng hose. Kya nawawalan ng brakefeel. Hindi mo mararanasan yan sa cable actuated hydraulic calipers. Nice build and ride safe sir!
Hello bro! For MTB handle bar po kasi mejo aggressive ung arm position at masakit sa palad compared sa RB or Gravel naka natural resting position yung kamay at walang tension :) . Yung dati ko kasing setup kahit mahaba stem ko lahat ng bigat ng katawan ko nasa likod, hindi nadidistribute sa buong katawan kaya masakit sa likod...
Another grear build/upgrade, Sir! Sayang wala na akong foxter frame, gayahin ko sana hahhaa
Pwede naman po kahit hindi foxter frames hehe...
Currently I'm building a monster cross bike too, drop bar,brifters,tyre left to buy
Good luck with the build bro! 😁
What lever po ang compatible sa LTWOO AX 12 SPEED. Please help, planning to convert mine too
sana all may bike
It look beauty beast i think
Yes it is! Thank you! 😊
Very good video content bro thanks for sharing bagong kaib8gan bro ride safe
Always welcome
you just gave me an amazing idea
I hope it helps! 😊
sir ang ganda nang review solid ang quality, sir update naman nang sesha after few months na gamit
Hi sir! May nirestore po ako na RB at nilagyan ko ng sensah 2 months ago... base dun sa gumagamit, hanggang ngaun maganda pa rin, medyo nanibago lang sya nung una kasi nabago ung shifting mechanisim..
Nice video sir! Ride safe
Ride safe din po sir!
A sure job! Excellent mechanic.
Thank you so much!!! 🥰
beautiful bike, nice to know that ignite is compatible with alivio
Yes, true
Hi, what model of clip pedals you used? Thanks for sharing.
Shimano DX PD-M647
Wow gusto ko gwin to sa bike ko. Astig ang angas
Dami kong natututunan dito kay lodicakes
Hola, quisiera saber si puedo equipar las manetas sora 3x9 con mis bielas alivio 22-32-44 con el cassette 11-36 9s.
Tengo la idea de poder hacer una bici gravel con una estetica mas aero usando esas manetas, veo que funciona bien con el desviador trasero, ¿Pero funcionara bien con las biela alivio?
Hello, I would like to know if I can equip the Sora 3x9 levers with my 22-32-44 relief cranks with the 11-36 9s cassette.
I have the idea of being able to make a gravel bike with a more aero aesthetic using those levers, I see that it works well with the rear derailleur, but will it work well with the relief cranks?
Planning to do this to my Foxter Harvard 5.2, can I ask if can put shifter cables on the opposite side of the frame?
Bro same frame geometry and idea sa iniisip ko sa mtb ko hahaha salamat ng madami nakita ko na kalalabasan pero siguro kukuha ako ng 26 na fork kasi 27.5 lang naman ws ko. Maraming salamat sa idea bro
Cool man. Job well done 💪🏾
Appreciate it!
Nice vid idol! Ask ko lang if alloy na ba yung shifters or plastic pa din? Thank you po
Alloy po sir...
@@CoggieBike ohhh. Thank you idol.
You could just call it sensah totally integration para social naman 👌
Lupet ng bike mo sir!❤️
Salamat po sir!
I have the same setup
Hi can someone educate me i want to do this build also to my budget mtb my only problem is i have a 1x setup on my bike 1x9 to be exact, my question is can i just not use the other sensah ignite brake lever for the fd and just use it as a brake lever since i have a 1x setup,,,,hoping you answer
yes you can just leave the left shifter alone without shifter cable, it will still function as your front brake
Hi. and for what it was necessary to change fork? Sora duals work very well with deore 2x9 switches.
You are right! It's optional to change to fork but I changed it because the suspension fork is too heavy! I save at least 2.5k by changing it to carbon fork :)
@@CoggieBike understood. I changed my fork 2.9k to another weighing 1.5k instagram.com/s/aGlnaGxpZ2h0OjE3ODgyOTg1MzI5NDc3ODgz?story_media_id=2606852072615141848_253229253&
Absolutely amazing build.
Any compatibility suggestions for the same build but with a 1x10 Deore groupset? What are my options for brifters?
Brifters are only applicable with 9 speed below RDs and cogs... 10 speed above has different cable pull ration bet week RB and MTB
ganda ng set up bro. niceee!
Salamat idol!
Interesting build! Apaka hybrid
Hybrid to the fullest! 😂
just found out that the distance from the pivot to the cable head attachment on those sensah ignite levers are actually 35mm, making it actually on long pull category. Does it mean I can actually use V-brakes for it?
Boss. Ganda ng content mo. Salamat🙌
Maraming salamat po boss! 😊
I use 1x9 sti ignite with MTB Sun Race 11-40 cassette I would like to know which rear derailleur to use that is compatible with the STI?
Alivio
@@CoggieBike Do you need to use an extender?
Dream Bikeee sheeesshhhhhh!
Angas idol!
Baka may extra wheelset po kayo dyan gusto ko po sana mag sideline sa pasabike. Wala po ako trabaho ngayon kaya gusto ko po sana dumiskarte sa pagppasabike. Salamat po.
bgm so good👍
Good build Sir! planning to convert a Monster Cross din po. Good thing I found your video :) May I ask po if what is the cassette size you use? I'll be using Sensah ignite din.
In the video I use 42t 9 speed sagmit cassette, but it's not ideal so I changed it with 36t shimano hyperglide since the setup is 2x
Boss ang ganda ng build mo, btw compatible kaya ang Sora x Alivio, please and thank you, planning to build one, juin tech at sora shifters, meron na akong mosso m6, more power fan from YYC 🇨🇦
Opo, compatible po ang SORA at ALIVIO, same cable pull ration sir, basta 9 speed below. Ang 10 speed po hindi na compatible sa MTB to RB hybrid... eto po link about cable pull ratio
blog.artscyclery.com/science-behind-the-magic/science-behind-the-magic-drivetrain-compatibility/
Maraming salamat Boss @Coggie Bike 1 sub here thanks GoD Bless
Question, if I may: can you use a shimano alivio for as a NOT beginner as well? Alivio is rly designed for beginners, but can it also be used for riders once they get better?
Theres no rules
Sir! ganda ng build niyo po! Natutukso po ako mag convert din po kasi same rigid fork po tayo! hahaha Kaya kaya sir pag Shimano Altus RD 9 speed? currently naka 1x9 set up po ako. 27.5 frame din and Large size po yung frame din po ako :)
Wala pong problema sa Altus RD 9 speed basta hanggang 9 speed lang po compatible yan sa RB STI
@@CoggieBike Thank you sir! papaano kya sir pwede lang na walang nakakabit sa fd shifter sir if sensah din gagamitin ko po? :)
Very informative video Coggie! So far kumusta naman pairing ng ignite at alivio RD? Balak ko din ipair yang dlawa eh. Would appreciate your response..salamat!
Maayos naman po pairing sir dahil same cable pull ratio... Hindi po sensah ang madalas nagkakaron ng issue kundi ung Alivio RD, matagtag at may delay lagi kapag malaking sprocket gamit niyo...
@@CoggieBike can you share the specific alivio rd model? Tinry ko pairing ng ignite shifter at ltwoo a5, sablay hehe so planning to replace my rd ng alivio
@@CoggieBike Betta double tail na 1x balak ko gawing monster cross, oks na lahat ng parts..ung rd na lang tlaga hehe
Very good set-up for a monster cross. Just want to ask if I can use a Tiagra set up instead of 105 and use a Shimano non-series crank set 36-22 T (MT210 MTB). Will both the Tiagra fd & rd work fine together with the tiagra sti and an 11-34 T (HG500-10 Road Bike 10 Speed Freewheels Cogs)? Many thanks for your quick response on this. I'm also building my own monster cross.
Hello... You can do your setup like the way I did in this video... th-cam.com/video/Ul5QaeH8DtU/w-d-xo.html
If you pay attention carefully with this setup, I used straight shimano 105 from STI to RD, FD and Sprocket. The only thing differs is the alivio crankset which is cross compatible with all speeds... Just keep in mind that when you step to 10 speed above, STI's do not work with MTB RDs...
can u tell us how your experience riding with toseek fork, specially when u ride in gravel road? how is quality and reability?
Is it okay to only change straight bar to drop bar Ang the shifter and the fork?
wow . so nice . can i ask a question?
What if ltwo a5 mtb rd to ltwo r5 road shifter os compatable? thank you sir 👍
Wala pong problema kung ang RD niyo ay pang MTB, basta po ung STI at Cogs nio ay hanggang 9 speed pa yan kahit pang 11 speed ang RD ok lang :)
Hello. Do you have to pull the brake lever far to engage the brake?
You have to pull it at the right spot
Hello, Friend! Can you tell me, if sensah quantum 10 speed shifters are compatible with shimano GRX400 front and rear derailleurs? I know the tiagra 4700 duals are compatible with the GRX400 derailleurs. And sensah quantum is compatible with tiagra 4700 shifters.
Great build! Can I also pair SENSAH Ignite with 3x9 Shimano XT derailleurs? Thank you
All Rds are the same, its the shifter which makes the cable pull ration, if you use Sensah Ignite with 9 speed cogs, Shimano XT RD will be compatible
Hey Coggie! Cool set up you got there! And nice video! Did you use a top swing or down swing FD? Or it does not matter?
The frame is compatible only for side swing FD
Can i also convert my bike with shimano acera 3×9 rd and fd to sti shifters? Thanks!
ANG GANDA🔥
Salamat brad!
Wow Nice Work 🥰
Thank you! Cheers!
Excellent work. I converted my Talon 2021 into a monstercross with SLX 7100 groupo, shifter onto a handle extender. Howver shifting is quite a hassle. I wonder if the Sensah Ignite works with the newer Alivio M3100 rd?
You may experience weird shifting in FD but it's normal. Some FDs nowadays have what they call trimming...
@@CoggieBike rd or fd? Im confuse here as im talking about RD 😅
@@shuk89117 I have Sensah Ignite brifters in combo with an Alivio Rd M3100-SGS and the cassette is an HG201-9 11-36T; 50-34T chainring;my humble RD is a Tourney 😁. I converted my RB to a gravel/ all-road setup. I'm using mechanical disc brakes, both 160mm and my tires are a pair of 700x35c.
With patience and a proper understanding of the mechanisms, the setup works reliably for a bike-to-work rider. So, have the patience to set the indexing 🙂 .
Coggie's video was my go signal to setup my own bike with the Sensah Ignite+Alivio combo. The braking is actually very responsive for me. My rear brake is mighty strong😁.
I actually had an experience where only my left hand was was on the hood with one finger on the lever when an elderly man suddenly appeared on the bike lane, since my right hand was not free at the time I only had ONE finger to activate my Front brake😆, I was surprised but was able to slow down enough to avoid hitting him. ****To be clear though, i was only going at a leisurely pace probably 10kph. just sharing. Thanks
@@ignoramusOO Great write up. Do you mean you have a humble Tourney FD?
@@shuk89117 yup sorry yup its an FD, shifting is decent enough
Ganyan din set up ko idol pero sagmit concept gamit ko pero same naman kung pano gamitin, try mo idol lagyan ng earo bar
Pwede po ba sa Acera Rd?
Ang ganda ng set up mo sir.... 👏👌
Ang bike ko ay Foxter ft6.1+... Soon to set-up my bike... Kapag may budget na.... Hehehe.... Thanks
Pwede po sir basta hanggang 9 speed, i-match niyo rin po ung number of speed sa bibilhin nio pong road bike shifter :)
@@CoggieBike Thank you po... 😇😊
nice build sir
I'm glad you like it
So you switched hydraulic brakes for mechanic?
Show brother!!! 👏👏👏💪🚴
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Great Idea! But you change Hydraulic Disc Brakes into Mechanicals? Why?
Hydraulic brakes for STI are too expensive...